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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Iran. The Straits of Moses is a strategic asset.
No matter what happens here, they will continue to want
to take it back from us because it's number one.
They don't have a nuclear power capability, they're not even
close to developing a weapon. Now. This is their number
one strategic asset. It gives them leverage over the Golf
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States in a region, and they truly want to have
an element of control here and they are willing to
fight us for it, and we have got to take
it away from him and prevent them from ever getting
it back under their control again.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
General Jack Keene on Fox yesterday, and it seems to
be the case. And we started talking about this two
days ago. Wall Street Journal had that peace where they
were supposedly talking to people in the White House and
the Pentagon who are saying the Pentagon has been telling
the President, look, we can open the street, but it'll
be incredibly difficult and it will take a lot of troops,
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and I mean it will be an amazing commitment of
military power to do this.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Do we really want to do this. You're going to
need more people, You're gonna need more everything. Let's talk
about the situation in general, and that question more specifically
with military analyst Mike Lyons who joins us now. Mike,
always great to talk.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
How are you, hey, guys, great to be back.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So how accurate is that that to open the street
would be somewhere between impossible and very very very difficult.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm not sure. I think General Keane's got it right.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I think we're going to continue to attack along this
very long coastline, right, six hundred miles of coastline that
exists here. I look at the targets specifically, right, we're
on the sixth day now of striking here, and we're
going after the most the largest threat and out of
these coastal batteries and drones, and you know, anybody who
picks his head up and decides to fire, still not
at scale, although some of their missiles and drones are
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still getting through. We could still pound away here for
a very long time from the air and continue to
degrade their capability. We saw we took out a bridge
last night. That's a little unusual. And it's all about
the infrastructure now, because if you take away the initial
capability that they have along the coastline, now we've got
to get another layer behind it. So I think that's
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what the military strikes are going to do. I'm not
sure where the people are coming in. I mean, we're
not invading Iran, we're not taking it over, we're not
doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So I'm not quite sure what that is.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
I mean, we could we do this for a long
time and get the results we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So, but given the fact that all you need are
a couple of shots across a couple of bows to
effectively close the straight, eliminating their capabilities to that extent
seems like a near impossibility to me. Don't you need
to remove their will to do that?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, that's two separate kind of lanes there, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The question is we.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Can again trid it down to the point where that
probability becomes just so low.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And I think that's what we're doing. That's what we're
trying to do.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
The will question comes down to the separation that you
could see already between the Ministry of you know, Foreign Policy,
and the Ministry and the IRGC. I mean, once side
of the coin, they're trying to make a deal. Trump says,
they're calling them all the time to make a deal.
But the IRGC obviously is in control of everything here,
so you know, and I think that they've been very decentralized. Obviously,
the intent is very clear, just don't give up. And
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so the United States is going to have to continue
to pound away while other countries, to the golf countries
are looking for alternate means, which is really the issue here.
Great pipelines, don't don't give the leverage back to the
Ranians once this is over.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
They can't ever control this in the future. And these
Golf states are trying to recognize that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So the Wall Street Journal's story was we the and
you know, if you have information that's different than this,
feel free to tell us. But the reporting has been
that the part of the strait that we're saying is open,
no ships have gone through. And we made a big
on the radio announcement that the United States says it's open,
go ahead and come on through, and the spons with
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somebody on another ship saying off, well, then we're not
going through there.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, Well, there's there's a couple of pathways.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
There's one close to Aman, which is what we believe
is what's open.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
What's what's getting through.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It's not the hundred ships a day necessarily it's not
an open passage, but you know, you know, again, the
military is going to overestimate, I think, what it's capability
its needs in order to get the job done, and
then try to come in under that. Obviously, I think
that's where the Wall Street Journal is getting those sources from,
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because sure, if you're a commander on the ground to
unlimited resources, you're going to say, this is what we
need in order to make it, you know, completely to
completely open. We've always heard the chairman say degraded. They're
not completely destroyed. I know the President's is destroyed, but
that's that's a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Military analyst Mike Lyons is on the line, So what
what would you say overall? Is the capability of the
Iranian military at this point? Are they? I mean they
just the only thing they can accomplish is frightening ships
in the golf essentially at this point exactly hanging on infrastructure,
(05:08):
maybe in the neighborhood, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Exactly, hanging on for dear life.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I mean again, with ninety percent degraded, they could still
have a few hundred missiles left and nothing comes at scale.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Everything is asymmetric.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
What that means, it's the one off when you don't know,
it's the most challenging to defend against. It's consider it
to be terrorism on the sea. That's what they can do.
But that's all they have. And like anything else, like
we've defeated isis we just have to keep going.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
At it and keep a treading at it.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
And frankly, as long as we're not bringing body bags
home here, this is fine.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I know.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I saw some smart persons say, oh, this is now
going to turn in forever war. No, it's not, because
we can't do this all day. We can continue to
strike for the military, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
One hundred or so, one hundred strikes a day. Not
the level of epic fury.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
It's not eleven hundred, but it's also not six or seven,
which is all the Iranians are doing. Continue the leverage
on the economic side and in the blockade as well.
Something's going to have to crumble inside Iran. I think
this is starting to be the beginning of the end,
and I think this is the strategy most of the
military wanted to see us do a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, I sure, hope you're right.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, that'd be fantastic if we hit them a
couple hundred times a day, day after day. Eventually they fall.
They're not getting the revenue they need. You know, there's
enough internal conflict where people are saying to each other, Hey,
this ain't gonna work.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What's our long plan here? And the regime crumbles.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, it works for now. I mean again, what we
kind of I'm not saying I don't care.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
We obviously, you know, this is a get a good
example of other countries should recognize.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
This is the number one threat in the world right now.
This is this is it.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And if we don't get it, then the Aradians think
they're going to control this. Then again, the Trump arrangement syndrome,
you know, obviously exists inside of NATO and exists and
some of these leaders here, but the Gulf States are
getting it because they're also been part of the receiving end.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
One of two attacks still come their way. This problem
needs to be solved.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Right now, and I think the President is going to
make sure it gets solved before we.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Go on to the next thing.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Mike, I want to change topics just briefly, because we've
been talking about this a lot today and are going
to be talking about it more including Marco Rubio's fantastic speech.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Of was it yesterday or Yeah? Tremendous.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And we've been talking about the success so far of
the Democratic Socialists of America's candidates in various elections, and
they're trying to take over the Democratic Party. I'm sure
you've been watching this too, any thoughts.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, I'm not sure that anyone in that party's ever
got a civics lesson. We have a Constitution of Republic
that's going nowhere, and if they try to change that,
then you're talking we're back to the eighteen sixties again,
and you want to go there, looks see how that
works out. So again, I don't think it's unfortunate gets
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a lot of press, and I feel terrible. I'm not
the political guy here obviously, but you know, the Democrats
have got a problem they have to solve here. But
if they think they're going to defund the military and
get rid of the Senate and overturn this whatever, they think,
they're just delusional.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And so yeah, that's civil war level stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
So again, you want to play hardball, We'll play hardball
and we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Military analyst Mike Lyons Mike it's always great to talk.
As I said before, we'll stay in touch. Is the
is the situation of wolves? Thanks great, guys, Thanks for me. Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, he's pretty optimistic about the road we're going down
with the couple hundred strikes per.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Day, the old wacken squeeze. Yep, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't I suppose at the end of the day
it might be what's the other option? R Not sure
there is one, So you take the best of your
bad options. Now, that's interesting his angle. He this is
something he thinks about because he is in the military
and talks to people at a high level that I
don't always think about. The people that leak that stuff
to the Wall Street Journal want a lot more stuff.
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They want people, planes, bullets, bombs, all this stuff. And
that's how you get it by saying, well, we can
do it. It's gonna be really, really, really hard.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
We're gonna need a lot of stuff. Well you do
that for reasons that are both perfectly noble and maybe
a little self serving. But yeah, yeah, if I'm a marine,
I want to go in with overwhelming force the Powell doctrine. Indeed, indeed,
want me to hit you with something really really stupid,
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or we take a break. If you'd like, you're gonna
complain about this, Oh, you're gonna yell. We usually make
people buy advertising. That's what you're gonna yell. Well, if
you know everything, I'm going to say, I'm going to
go play golf and you can just do me.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
McDonald's has two brand new sandwich creations. Normally we make
people buy immediately hostile.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
The honey brown butter, bacon, egg and cheese biscuit is
what is honey brown? What is honey brown butter? Which
one is brown? The honey the butter in the English
language is probably the butter.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That taco bell it's the lettuce. Hell nailed them. Oh
my god, he might give people the poops. He tied
it into the news of the day. Did you hear that?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Fantastic?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
All right?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So bad?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So you got the honey brown butter bacon, egg and
cheese biscuit, You're right, I don't know the descriptor brown.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
That is steak and and cheese biscuit.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's eight words a much the honey brown butter chicken biscuit,
which is different than the bacon biscuit. Or make honey
or well, they want you to know about the honey
brown butter, whatever the hell that is, and fans are
loving them apparently excellent. If they have one of my
local McDonald's, I'll try one today. Why are the calories
so high on this stuff?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Though?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I generally kind of like put my hand up to
the menu in front of my eye so I can't
read the calorie part if I met McDonald's. But like,
one of my go tos is a couple of cheeseburgers,
A couple of cheeseburgers, no onions.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I get, two cheeseburgers, no onions, no fries, no drink.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Just said, But it's like eight hundred calories for two
tiny cheeseburgers. Why why are there so How do they
pack so many calories in there?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't know the fat, I really don't know. That
was the great thing about being on that cruise. Judy
and I were on no calories anywhere. It was the
International Waters friends, the lawless rum sod of me in
the lash piracy and no calories on the menu.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Make me walk the plank. You're gonna need a thicker plank, Yeah,
you better reinforce that plank. Huh do you know how
they pack?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You don't know how they pack all those extra calories
into fast food.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It seems like a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And with that ton for tiny for two tiny little burgers,
look up making cheeseburgers or something at home.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It ain't like that. Yeah, I don't know what the
deal with. Yeah, deliciousness, I guess has a lot of calori,
isn't it. I will not eat at McDonald's coming up.
You should inconvenience yourself more often. I will explain. I
have made our lot, all of us. You, the general, you,
the great you. Uh, we've made our lives too frictionless.
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Great essay from one of my favorite young thinkers. A
lot of stuff on the way, Stay here, fetty,