July 10, 2026 • 15 mins
David Drucker (The Dispatch) joins Jack Armstrong to talk about the rise of the Democratic Socialists and the major shift happening in our politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Armstrong and Getting show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are told that America is exceptional because we are richer, stronger,
more powerful than everyone else. The truth, my friends, is
that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place.
The frontier may be closed, we may have walked on
the moon, but the work of fulfilling the values first
enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. That work endures, and
(00:29):
it belongs to us all. It belongs to to our
newest Americans, those standing here with me today, all of
whom were recently naturalized.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
SAT's a mayor of New York City.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Maybe you've heard of him, This guy Maumdanti, and he
is a Democratic Socialist, and.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is the leader of that movement, I guess.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And they are on the march, and they've won a
bunch of primaries, of course, ofcross the country, including another
one what last weekend in Colorado. And then you've got
the issue of has the momentum of that crowd, the
most progressive part of the Democratic Party moved from the
whole sexuality, gay trans stuff to the israel anti Semitic thing.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Is that the driving force?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
These are all interesting questions for David Drucker, who is
a senior writer with the Dispatch and follows this sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
How are you, David, I'm good. How do you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Tell what's actually happening in America versus what's happening on Twitter?
Because it's very easy to get misled by online stuff
and things seem bigger than they are, or more people
seem angrier than they are.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How do you tell what's actually happening?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, well, look, I.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Mean I think sometimes, you know, we make the mistake
of saying it's only about this or only about that
with in truth, you know, these it can be about everything,
and these answers could be you know, complex, which of
course is really annoyed people. Right.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know, you know what I will say, you know,
in covering campaigns and traveling the country, I mean, voters
are broadly concerned about the same things, and they usually
are always concerned about.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
The same things.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
In this case, it's affordability. It's a sense of you know,
being upset that Washington has been working in the way
they want it to work. Political volatility, and there's in
terms of concerns about public safety because you know, you
know the community you're in. Uh, the differences are how
do you deal with that how do you fix these problems?
(02:34):
Who are the right political leaders in the right you
know what what party? Right? So I'm in the Indiana
and Kentucky. Yeah, they're talking about the affordability issue, and
they're talking about, you know, this sense that Washington isn't
working properly. But their answer generally is, you know, people
should should follow the lead of President Donald Trump Moore
(02:55):
and stop fighting with him if you're a Republican or
the problem or the Democrats. Right now, I'm in Michigan,
I'm covering the Democratic set of primary, so I'm talking
to Democratic voters and affordability is top of mind for everybody.
The real problem from their perspective President Donald Trump and
the Republicans. And you know, one of the reasons why
(03:18):
l s Iie doctor Abdula said, who's the progressive candidate
in this primary? He says he's not a socialist, but
he's a progressive. His big message, and he just says
it over and over again, is you know, take money
out of politics, put money in your pocket. Pass medicare
for all.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And if you look at the rise of Donald Trump
and the Republican populace, where they agree is they would
constantly talk about special interests and money in politics is
being the problem is causing all of the corruption. And
so again it's Americans generally identifying the same problems but
coming up with different solutions, because obviously, if you're a Republican,
the idea of single payer, nationalized healthcare is anathema and
(04:02):
there are all sorts of problems with it. And then finally,
when we get to this issue of Israel, and I
think it's there's no doubt that there is is a
strain of anti Semitism on the left that's stronger than
the strain of anti Semitism on the right. That they
exist on both the right and the left. No doubt
(04:24):
the strain of being against Israel is much stronger on
the left than you know, some of the online voices
we see from that regard on the right. But for
some voters, and we don't know yet because the polling
can be really complex and most Jewish voters in every
state in America are Democrats. Is for some voters, I
(04:48):
think the idea of demonizing apex and being anti Israel
is code for I'm against the status quo and the establishment.
For other voters, it's just a case of jew hay
and being against Israel and giving no agency to the
Palestinians who committed atrocities on October seventh, Palestinians in southern
(05:10):
Lebanon who are threatening israel security, an agency to the
Iranians who are paying for all of this and themselves
threatening Israel's existence, And so he can be an amalgam
of all this, I will tell you. I mean, doctor
al said is unapologetically and open about his opposition to
Israel's existence as a Jewish state. And Hailey Stevens, who
(05:31):
is the establishment candidate in this race in a cycle
where it's not good to be an establishment democratic candidate
in a democratic primary, says the key difference between us
is that I support Israel's right to exist and he doesn't,
and he doesn't try and wheezl a lot of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I saw the clip from the debate last night, and
I mean that's something to have a guy standing on
a stage who says I don't believe Israel should exist.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, and there are a lot of Democratic candidates like
that in some form or other. I think that's very concerning.
You know, if you're an American Jew, or you're an
American Christian or an American atheist who cares about Israel
security and thinks the US is Israel alliance is good
for American national security. All of this should be very concerning.
(06:16):
But you know, aside from that is to me is
very part and parcel of what we've seen over the past,
you know, twenty years. I remember in Oa Barack Obama
as a candidate for president saying that he would talk
to the Ayantolas in Iran and we'd get up people
that were a part of the foreign policy to see
establishment flipped out. You can't put an American presideese at
(06:38):
risk by talking to these murderers. And then we saw
President Trump as a candidate, talked about, you know, his
willingness to talk to Iran and do deals, and then
being willing to meet with Kim John Gunn, one of
the biggest rogue, you know, murdering leaders in the world
and lending American credibility to this jag off and the
(07:02):
foreign compay establishment flipped, you know, flipped out. But he
went and did it. And there are many American voters
who after nine to eleven and the Warner Rock and
a great recession, felt like all the things we were
doing that we were supposed to do weren't working, and
so maybe these things were not supposed to do won't work.
(07:24):
But it's time to try these things. And in that regard,
I don't think you can automatically say that that some
of these socialists or progressive candidates that have these you know,
sort of weird views, you know, from certain perspectives anyway,
are necessarily going to be rejected by voters.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I think you're onto something with this idea that
it's people who just don't like the status quo and
so they get lumped into socialists or whatever category. Sometimes
there are some there are actual socialists out there, no doubt,
but you know, like we saw with the raise of
McCrone or Trump himself or whatever, it's people that just
I want something different. So I'm willing trying to try,
(08:07):
willing to try something wildly different because on the socialist front,
unless things have changed a ton. My whole life of
following politics, when when Gallup would pull all kinds of
different qualities about candidates, socialists would always finish dead last.
Among like every other possible thing you could be with,
(08:27):
socialists would finish last.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So how does this fit.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Look, I think first of all, you know, we have
to try to understand what I'mmericans saying when they hear socialists.
A lot of this is coming from upwardly mobile upward. Well,
let me back up here, because I'm using the wrong,
wrong terminology. A lot of this that we have seen
(08:52):
in these house districts with the rise of the Socialists
and Democratic Socialists of America affiliated candidates. These they're they're
winning these elections because of educated white voters. Many of
them came from financially well off or at least, you know,
(09:13):
very solid middle class manties. These are not destitute, down
and out people, but they're people that believe that they're
college educations and they're professional crudentials should buy them more
mobility and more financial independence. And they're unhappy. And so
you know, if you hear a candidate who says, have
a care for all, We're going to give you a
(09:34):
bunch of free stuff, and they think it's all free
and that's great. The other people, we're going to tax
the rich, tax the billionaires take their wealth. So these
are not people that are for higher taxes, they're for
higher taxes on other people. These are people that feel.
And by the way, this is you know, separately, well,
this is a public policy question that should be addressed.
(09:56):
When people feel immobile, when people feel like they can't
get an act, you know, we can browseep them, but
this is a this is an issue that needs to
be addressed. But aside from that, I don't think they're
looking at this as a as a system or as
a set of policies that are going to reduce their
freedoms and make it harder for them to get ahead.
(10:20):
They think it's going to make it easier for them
to order seven dollars launtes and have a nice lost
in Brooklyn. And I mean that it sounds like I'm
I'm you know, being flippant, but I'm not, because these
are people. When you look at a lot of these
house districts, it's not the non white voters that are
turning out establishments and traditional Democratic incumbents of candidates. It's
(10:43):
a lot it's a lot of these you know, college educated,
graduate degree educated PhD educated white voters who don't feel
like they're being adequately compensated for all the work they've
put in. And so it's a public policy question, but
it also suggests that they don't think they're voting to
live in Eastern Europe. They think that this is how
(11:05):
they're going to get the American dream that capitalism is
supposed to give.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
How are there enough of those people though, you know,
graduate degree white over educated in degrees where you can't
actually make a living. How is there enough of those
people to have this much effect on one of the
major parties.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, look, our politics is very balkanized. So you're talking
a few house districts, but a few, how you know,
it's the old rule of journalism free is a trend.
But you know we're seeing as what I mean, Denver's
first district. Let's just get out of New York for
a minute. It's a very very blue district, right, and
you have, you know, multiple candidates in some cases, other
(11:45):
cases it's a head to head. But you know, our
politics are balkanized. These people aren't very blue districts. We
further redistricted on both sides, and so it's very easy
to end up with candidates like this is very to
be reminiscent this Tea Party on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Fourteen where you get these anti establishment conservative populists and
you know, and they were running a government and lower
taxes and I'm sure they can't. I'm sure they believe that.
But really it was all about fighting the establishment, beating
up the established for of Republican Party. And you know,
we saw the effect on the GP for a few years,
but that led us to President Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
David Drugger's senior writer with the Dispatch.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think you're right about all that stuff, David, And
I don't always think you're always right about everything, but
I think you're right about everything you said today, and
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
An time, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I absolutely think that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean, I'm worried about h the embrace of socialism
by young people, no doubt about it. But I think
it's driven by just a I don't like the way
thing the way things are. Throw it at the wall
and see what sticks. Anti current power structure. I think
that there's just a ton of that, and an all
(13:01):
over the place, all over the Western civilization, as we've
seen all kinds of governments brought down. Macrown's such a
good example of that. But we don't have time to
get into that now.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, So these are people that they already have a
great life.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You grew up middle upper class or upper class.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You got a graduate degree at a fancy college that
isn't worth anything, and you feel like you should have
a better life than you have, and so you're voting
for socialists, not fully understanding what he was even going
on there. I like the idea of the guy says
I'm not a socialist, but I want medicare for all.
That's hilarious. There are actual Marxists out there, there's no
(13:42):
doubt about that, who want to slip all this in
through the back door, front door, or however they can
get it going. But man, these are interesting times to
live through of all, for all Western democracies. Really, I'm
sure we'll be talking about that more in the coming days.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are told that America is exceptional because we are richer, stronger,
more powerful than everyone else. The truth, my friends, is
that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place.
The frontier may be closed, we may have walked on
the moon, but the work of fulfilling the values first
enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. That work endures, and
(00:29):
it belongs to us all. It belongs to to our
newest Americans, those standing here with me today, all of
whom were recently naturalized.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
SAT's a mayor of New York City.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Maybe you've heard of him, This guy Maumdanti, and he
is a Democratic Socialist, and.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is the leader of that movement, I guess.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And they are on the march, and they've won a
bunch of primaries, of course, ofcross the country, including another
one what last weekend in Colorado. And then you've got
the issue of has the momentum of that crowd, the
most progressive part of the Democratic Party moved from the
whole sexuality, gay trans stuff to the israel anti Semitic thing.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Is that the driving force?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
These are all interesting questions for David Drucker, who is
a senior writer with the Dispatch and follows this sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
How are you, David, I'm good. How do you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Tell what's actually happening in America versus what's happening on Twitter?
Because it's very easy to get misled by online stuff
and things seem bigger than they are, or more people
seem angrier than they are.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How do you tell what's actually happening?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, well, look, I.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Mean I think sometimes, you know, we make the mistake
of saying it's only about this or only about that
with in truth, you know, these it can be about everything,
and these answers could be you know, complex, which of
course is really annoyed people. Right.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know, you know what I will say, you know,
in covering campaigns and traveling the country, I mean, voters
are broadly concerned about the same things, and they usually
are always concerned about.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
The same things.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
In this case, it's affordability. It's a sense of you know,
being upset that Washington has been working in the way
they want it to work. Political volatility, and there's in
terms of concerns about public safety because you know, you
know the community you're in. Uh, the differences are how
do you deal with that how do you fix these problems?
(02:34):
Who are the right political leaders in the right you
know what what party? Right? So I'm in the Indiana
and Kentucky. Yeah, they're talking about the affordability issue, and
they're talking about, you know, this sense that Washington isn't
working properly. But their answer generally is, you know, people
should should follow the lead of President Donald Trump Moore
(02:55):
and stop fighting with him if you're a Republican or
the problem or the Democrats. Right now, I'm in Michigan,
I'm covering the Democratic set of primary, so I'm talking
to Democratic voters and affordability is top of mind for everybody.
The real problem from their perspective President Donald Trump and
the Republicans. And you know, one of the reasons why
(03:18):
l s Iie doctor Abdula said, who's the progressive candidate
in this primary? He says he's not a socialist, but
he's a progressive. His big message, and he just says
it over and over again, is you know, take money
out of politics, put money in your pocket. Pass medicare
for all.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And if you look at the rise of Donald Trump
and the Republican populace, where they agree is they would
constantly talk about special interests and money in politics is
being the problem is causing all of the corruption. And
so again it's Americans generally identifying the same problems but
coming up with different solutions, because obviously, if you're a Republican,
the idea of single payer, nationalized healthcare is anathema and
(04:02):
there are all sorts of problems with it. And then finally,
when we get to this issue of Israel, and I
think it's there's no doubt that there is is a
strain of anti Semitism on the left that's stronger than
the strain of anti Semitism on the right. That they
exist on both the right and the left. No doubt
(04:24):
the strain of being against Israel is much stronger on
the left than you know, some of the online voices
we see from that regard on the right. But for
some voters, and we don't know yet because the polling
can be really complex and most Jewish voters in every
state in America are Democrats. Is for some voters, I
(04:48):
think the idea of demonizing apex and being anti Israel
is code for I'm against the status quo and the establishment.
For other voters, it's just a case of jew hay
and being against Israel and giving no agency to the
Palestinians who committed atrocities on October seventh, Palestinians in southern
(05:10):
Lebanon who are threatening israel security, an agency to the
Iranians who are paying for all of this and themselves
threatening Israel's existence, And so he can be an amalgam
of all this, I will tell you. I mean, doctor
al said is unapologetically and open about his opposition to
Israel's existence as a Jewish state. And Hailey Stevens, who
(05:31):
is the establishment candidate in this race in a cycle
where it's not good to be an establishment democratic candidate
in a democratic primary, says the key difference between us
is that I support Israel's right to exist and he doesn't,
and he doesn't try and wheezl a lot of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I saw the clip from the debate last night, and
I mean that's something to have a guy standing on
a stage who says I don't believe Israel should exist.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, and there are a lot of Democratic candidates like
that in some form or other. I think that's very concerning.
You know, if you're an American Jew, or you're an
American Christian or an American atheist who cares about Israel
security and thinks the US is Israel alliance is good
for American national security. All of this should be very concerning.
(06:16):
But you know, aside from that is to me is
very part and parcel of what we've seen over the past,
you know, twenty years. I remember in Oa Barack Obama
as a candidate for president saying that he would talk
to the Ayantolas in Iran and we'd get up people
that were a part of the foreign policy to see
establishment flipped out. You can't put an American presideese at
(06:38):
risk by talking to these murderers. And then we saw
President Trump as a candidate, talked about, you know, his
willingness to talk to Iran and do deals, and then
being willing to meet with Kim John Gunn, one of
the biggest rogue, you know, murdering leaders in the world
and lending American credibility to this jag off and the
(07:02):
foreign compay establishment flipped, you know, flipped out. But he
went and did it. And there are many American voters
who after nine to eleven and the Warner Rock and
a great recession, felt like all the things we were
doing that we were supposed to do weren't working, and
so maybe these things were not supposed to do won't work.
(07:24):
But it's time to try these things. And in that regard,
I don't think you can automatically say that that some
of these socialists or progressive candidates that have these you know,
sort of weird views, you know, from certain perspectives anyway,
are necessarily going to be rejected by voters.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I think you're onto something with this idea that
it's people who just don't like the status quo and
so they get lumped into socialists or whatever category. Sometimes
there are some there are actual socialists out there, no doubt,
but you know, like we saw with the raise of
McCrone or Trump himself or whatever, it's people that just
I want something different. So I'm willing trying to try,
(08:07):
willing to try something wildly different because on the socialist front,
unless things have changed a ton. My whole life of
following politics, when when Gallup would pull all kinds of
different qualities about candidates, socialists would always finish dead last.
Among like every other possible thing you could be with,
(08:27):
socialists would finish last.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So how does this fit.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Look, I think first of all, you know, we have
to try to understand what I'mmericans saying when they hear socialists.
A lot of this is coming from upwardly mobile upward. Well,
let me back up here, because I'm using the wrong,
wrong terminology. A lot of this that we have seen
(08:52):
in these house districts with the rise of the Socialists
and Democratic Socialists of America affiliated candidates. These they're they're
winning these elections because of educated white voters. Many of
them came from financially well off or at least, you know,
(09:13):
very solid middle class manties. These are not destitute, down
and out people, but they're people that believe that they're
college educations and they're professional crudentials should buy them more
mobility and more financial independence. And they're unhappy. And so
you know, if you hear a candidate who says, have
a care for all, We're going to give you a
(09:34):
bunch of free stuff, and they think it's all free
and that's great. The other people, we're going to tax
the rich, tax the billionaires take their wealth. So these
are not people that are for higher taxes, they're for
higher taxes on other people. These are people that feel.
And by the way, this is you know, separately, well,
this is a public policy question that should be addressed.
(09:56):
When people feel immobile, when people feel like they can't
get an act, you know, we can browseep them, but
this is a this is an issue that needs to
be addressed. But aside from that, I don't think they're
looking at this as a as a system or as
a set of policies that are going to reduce their
freedoms and make it harder for them to get ahead.
(10:20):
They think it's going to make it easier for them
to order seven dollars launtes and have a nice lost
in Brooklyn. And I mean that it sounds like I'm
I'm you know, being flippant, but I'm not, because these
are people. When you look at a lot of these
house districts, it's not the non white voters that are
turning out establishments and traditional Democratic incumbents of candidates. It's
(10:43):
a lot it's a lot of these you know, college educated,
graduate degree educated PhD educated white voters who don't feel
like they're being adequately compensated for all the work they've
put in. And so it's a public policy question, but
it also suggests that they don't think they're voting to
live in Eastern Europe. They think that this is how
(11:05):
they're going to get the American dream that capitalism is
supposed to give.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
How are there enough of those people though, you know,
graduate degree white over educated in degrees where you can't
actually make a living. How is there enough of those
people to have this much effect on one of the
major parties.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Well, look, our politics is very balkanized. So you're talking
a few house districts, but a few, how you know,
it's the old rule of journalism free is a trend.
But you know we're seeing as what I mean, Denver's
first district. Let's just get out of New York for
a minute. It's a very very blue district, right, and
you have, you know, multiple candidates in some cases, other
(11:45):
cases it's a head to head. But you know, our
politics are balkanized. These people aren't very blue districts. We
further redistricted on both sides, and so it's very easy
to end up with candidates like this is very to
be reminiscent this Tea Party on the Republican side.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Fourteen where you get these anti establishment conservative populists and
you know, and they were running a government and lower
taxes and I'm sure they can't. I'm sure they believe that.
But really it was all about fighting the establishment, beating
up the established for of Republican Party. And you know,
we saw the effect on the GP for a few years,
but that led us to President Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
David Drugger's senior writer with the Dispatch.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think you're right about all that stuff, David, And
I don't always think you're always right about everything, but
I think you're right about everything you said today, and
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
An time, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I absolutely think that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean, I'm worried about h the embrace of socialism
by young people, no doubt about it. But I think
it's driven by just a I don't like the way
thing the way things are. Throw it at the wall
and see what sticks. Anti current power structure. I think
that there's just a ton of that, and an all
(13:01):
over the place, all over the Western civilization, as we've
seen all kinds of governments brought down. Macrown's such a
good example of that. But we don't have time to
get into that now.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, So these are people that they already have a
great life.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You grew up middle upper class or upper class.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You got a graduate degree at a fancy college that
isn't worth anything, and you feel like you should have
a better life than you have, and so you're voting
for socialists, not fully understanding what he was even going
on there. I like the idea of the guy says
I'm not a socialist, but I want medicare for all.
That's hilarious. There are actual Marxists out there, there's no
(13:42):
doubt about that, who want to slip all this in
through the back door, front door, or however they can
get it going. But man, these are interesting times to
live through of all, for all Western democracies. Really, I'm
sure we'll be talking about that more in the coming days.
That race up in Michigan is super interesting. We got
a clip from their debate last night. We'll play a
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