June 4, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour Three of A&G features...
- Marxist just lie...
- Making Modern Art...
- The Feds go after fraud...
- Gambling in pro sports.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack arms Strong and Joe Getty arm
Strong and Jetty and now he.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm strong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Nick Lee, a fan just ran on the floor wants
to take a selfie. Security quickly takes him away.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Rod gives him the appropriate girl. You saw the security
guard in pursuit.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Michel Robinson like, what's this dude doing, Scott Farster, You're
gonna come over and.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Explain it to us.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So I thought, wow, somebody could actually get clear to
the middle of the court to a player before a
security guard stops him.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
How do you have access like that? What are you
gonna do? Build a fence walls?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
But you'd have to be either had to have a
really really expensive ticket or the immediate person or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I guess yea, although I have a.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Friend she she went to like a final four NCAA
game because the school she went to, Yukon, made it
to the final four that year and she wanted to go,
so she made she got a lanyard and made with
the pool of plastic thing a thing that said press
with her picture on it, and she just walked in
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and sat.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like right there under the basket with a camera. Wow. Really,
that wasn't even that many years ago. Yeah. Man, I've
been grilled at smaller vents than that. That's crazy, I know.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
So I would talk about the lanyard and the laminated picture.
If you have a laminad picture of yourself, you can
go pretty much anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Nobody could do that on their own right. I'm going
to begin the following discussion with the quote one of
my favorites from James Lindsay Mars Take two. If you
screw up the first word, I mean, by god, that
is just a bad sign. You started to a long story.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Oh yeah, kids, before we leave the dinner table, I've
got a story very important. Yeah, this is one of
the most important things that ever happened in my life.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Blige got ah crap, damn it all. Right, here we go,
Stay two. Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and
blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions. It
works because no one expects another person to lie so overtly.
They don't believe in shared truth. They use words as weapons.
Until you learn to keep this in mind during every interaction,
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you will continue to get played. They rely on you implicitly,
assuming that they have good intentions and are aiming at
shared truth, and so dialogue can be productive. That's a
deception for Marxists. Dialogue is not a way of obtaining truth.
It is a forum for manipulation. Having said that, we
have all those of us concerned with the whole transgender
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craze amongst adolescents and the terrible medical experiments that were
done to these poor confused kids, many of them autistic
or abused or whatever. We've all been acutely aware of
the famous, famous study that was authored by researchers from
the Trevor Project that said, if your kid is not
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affirmed in their gender change, they will kill themselves. And
that horrible threat was repeated so many times to so
many poor confused parents who thought, well, would you rather
have a dead son or a live daughter? They were
asked over and over.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, And that's tough, especially in the early going of
this story when not as much was known. If you
were told, look, there's been a study done, experts have proven,
they would say that your child is a high.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Risk to commit suicide unless you go through with this.
That's a tough position to put a parent in well researchers.
Researchers have gotten hold of the study and the raw
data attached to it, and have finally been able to
take this quote unquote study apart, and what it was
studying was rates of self reported suicide attempts. We're talking
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to thirteen to seventeen year olds from before and after
so called anti transgender laws were passed in respondent states,
and pre legislation it zero point five to four per whatever,
one hundred thousand. Researchers set specific time periods following the
implementation of laws in treatment states to track the estimated
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increase in reported suicide attempts that could be linked to
said laws. I'm going to skip some of the technical stuff,
but they noted the Trevor Project researchers and there ought
to be quotes around that. Their activists noted in a
approximately seventy two percent rise in attempted suicide attempts average
suicide attempts from point five to four to point ninety three. This,
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in turn, appears to have driven the group's public messaging
regarding a large statistical increase in suicides among transgender and
non very binary use. If there was an unless there
was an affirmation only approach. Blah blah blah quote. Enacting
state level anti transgender laws increased incidents of past year
suicide attempts among TGNB young people by seven to seventy
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two percent. Our findings highlight the need to consider the
mental health impact of recent anti transgender laws and to
advance protective policies meaning affirming only. And they use this
like a cudgel now for years. If you get into
the actual data, virtually the entire increase in suicides was
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in Idaho, using an extremely small sample size that statistically,
if you go from two to three, that's a fifty
percent rise. It's a shocking rise. And what's even crazier
about leaning on Idaho and those numbers was that there
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were only two laws in Idaho even remotely related to
transgender status, including HB five hundred, banned males from participating
in female sports and HB five h nine, a law
concerning how sex is recorded on birth certificates. Neither of
these laws banned or even addressed procedures or treatments for
gender dysphoric youth. So you've got a tiny sample size
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of one state correlation not causation, and it was such
a small number. It might have just been the phenomenon
which has just established psychological science at this point. Teen
suicides tend to run in clusters and so there's absolutely
correlization correlation, but no causation here, and then they compare
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to apples to oranges or it was just it's absolutely scientifically,
completely invalid. It's to get back to the James Lindsay quote,
it's lies dressed up as science. It's unsupportable scientifically. But
that launched a god, maybe not a thousand, but damn
close to it, a thousand sets of terrified parents who
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didn't dare say, wait a minute, my kids alienated and
confused and autistic in all. But oh, you don't think
it's to the bottom of the I think it's a thousand, ah,
but it's well more than that. It could be fifty thousand.
I don't know. I really don't know. But the Trevor
Project's claim has been cited hundreds of times in defense
of looser restrictions on so called gender affirming treatments for
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youth patients, in legislatures, in the press all over the place.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
If you can come up with us stat to back
your argument. Nobody checks where that came from or the
validity of it, and you can get a lot done.
And certainly in the years that we've been doing this
radio show, we've seen that over and over again, whether
it's the nine year old kid and the straws with
the turtle right where states banned straw it's because of that.
(08:20):
I mean, all you need is a stat It doesn't
you might as well just make it up on a
thin air. I mean, it's barely more ridiculous than a
nine year old term paper or a you know, an
instance of a couple of people in Idaho, right, Why
you even go through the trouble of having it be
that real?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And if, as James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose and Peter
Bagoshian so hilariously illustrated with their fake studies for your
grievance studies papers, if you dress it up to look
like a legitimate scientific study or paper or something like that,
then nobody questions it. And what's really shocking about this
fake study is that it made it to the Supreme Court.
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The plaintiffs last year in that United States Versus Skurmetti,
which ultimately upheld Tennessee's law banning puberty blockers and hormone
therapy for minors. The plaintiffs cited the Trevor Project's peer
reviewed study and it's seventy two percent statistic right there
at the Supreme Court. A scientific joke of a study
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that's frustrating. It is it lets you know, which is
why I started with the quote I did, let's know
what you're up against. These people are cultists in their
utter lack of desire to examine their own precepts and claims. Anyway,
nuff said.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Got some kind of breaking news. The likely new Attorney General,
Todd blanche As named by President Trump, has announced a
massive crackdown on fraud, all kinds of indictments, defendants many
many millions of dollars. This is something that's long overdue
at every level of government across the country.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
We can touch on that story and a whole bunch
of other stuff. Stay here.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
This bizarre incident unfolding just after nine pm on Saturday,
but a suspect showing up in a TSA checkpoint at
the Sacramento Airport Authority say Kamani Jones, was wearing a
scarf covering his face and latex gloves. When they checked
jones To carry on bag, they say they allegedly discovered
this explosive device, a lighter, as well as a knife, scissors,
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more blades, and zip ties. According to the TSA, if
the explosive device had detonated next to a window, it
could have caused significant damage and a loss of cabin pressure.
If convicted, Jones faces a maximum five years in prison.
If BI says Jones has a history.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of paranoia, oh okay, it's a complete nut job.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I mean you show up with a scarf around your
face and rubber gloves on to go through TSA.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So you're not exactly with it with all your tools
of hijack or damage. Yeah, if your mayhem won a
one kit in your bag labeled still in the package.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
But as Noah Rothman told us yesterday, author of Blood
and Progress, when I recorded a podcast about left wing violence,
I don't know what this guy's violence was. I think
it was probably just crazy person violence. But uh, crazy
people have changed history. So yeah, doesn't matter where you're
crazy or not. If you take out a president or
whatever whatever, that changes history. All these big wigs in
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the Justice Department, in the Trump administration having a press
conference right now, big crackdown on fraud. We're going to
talk about that next segment a little bit. Some of
the things they said. And I got a great piece
from the California Post about nonprofits. It's time to completely
unmask the whole nonprofit charade and non governmental organizations and geos.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Different topic, though, I am making an effort to open
my mind about modern art. I've been on this. I've
been on this for a week or so.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Now I don't I don't remember what got me started
on it exactly, so I have Are you familiar with
the frame? There might be other companies that make it,
but Samsung makes one it.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Called the Frame. I thought it best by the first time,
and I thought, what a great idea.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's a tiny, very very thin television. But you can
mount it on your wall. It looks like a picture.
And then there's a subscription thing you sign up for
and you pick out different art and it looks like
you got framed art on your wall, and then you
can change it up. Is what I like so much.
As opposed to being invested in one thing on that wall,
I can keep changing it into different stuff. That's what
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I like and I've always gone with like real art
in my opinion. But I was me and Hitler. The
only thing we have in common is we both hate
modern art. I think it's a charade. But I've been
trying to I've been watching I know what it was.
I just got randomly fed a video on YouTube because
it figured out my algorithm or whatever. Steve Martin and
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the comedian, is one of the great correct collectors of
art in the world. He's got they got like one
hundred million dollars with of art.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Oh, it's a tremendous collection. They display it at various
art museums around the world where they'll have the Steve
Martin collection being on display at any given time.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
He's super into it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
But anyway, he had a it was a YouTube video
of him explaining modern art with somebody, an art teacher
and discussing what this and that and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You know. I had to try to learn more about this,
so I'm attempting to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But what I can't tell is how you tell the
difference between something that's just crap and something it is meaningful.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm not there yet, not even close. Yeah. I do
like a lot of abstract art, and maybe modern art.
The problem is I find the permission structure a bit
too wright too broad for modern art. Bananas tape to walls,
et cetera. Exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The famous do camp is that the guy with the
toilet way back one hundred years ago kind of kicked
off this whole craze with that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, abstract art, modern art. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know how you tell the difference. I don't
I don't know how you get your brain to work
in such a way that you are just amazed by
what you see versus the common expression that everybody says.
I think there are books with this title. My kid
could do that, because it often looks like you're what's
the difference. In fact, there was one study where they
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took a bunch of people's like kindergarten kid's art, and
then actual artists art and gave it to art professionals
and how often they could tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And they usually could tell the difference, but not always,
And I feel like it should be closer to always.
All right, everybody has to come up with a modern
art idea. Here's mine, real quick. It's a vacuum cleaner
with a pile of dirt on top of the vacuum cleaner.
And it's entitled now what. That's a good way. It
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makes you think about time and space and vacuum cleaners.
I haven't finished the description.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Henry had a big cardboard box with nothing in it
that he there was going to be his art. He
tried to sell it on e Bay. He didn't get
any takers but Philistines And it was just the idea of,
you know, wondering, what's in the box could be anything,
and all the different things it could be in the box.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And that's I like it. Yeah, I tell you got
one for us.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I do a young child staring straight at a television
and the title is a boy's obsession. It's just a
kid just staring away. Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Makes you stop and saying I only have one title
and then you can apply it to whatever you want
it to be. I've always had the same title. Yeah,
Man's in Humanity Demand. I always liked that title.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just freezing a bunch of a bunch of unassembled bicycle
parts of a pile. Man's in Humanity Demand? Perfect? Yeah,
banana taped to a Mango tape to the wall. Man's
in humanity to man. Of course. The one piece of
modern art that I'll never forget. I was at the
San Francisco MoMA, the Museum of Modern Art, the giant
porcelain Michael Jackson with a chimp, right, sure, Yeah, it
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was enormous. It was right in the middle of the room. Yeah,
that's on display in a Los Angeles whichever museum. May
You don't want to give me credit for anything. I
just did ye freak.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
But like I was listening to somebody explain how Jackson Pollock,
the famous splatter painter, You know, those were very deliberate.
That wasn't just haphazard.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It was all kinds of and I've watched videos of
him doing it, and it sure looks haphazard. Do it
look like he's putting a lot of thought into it
as he runs around splatter and paint. That's how good
he was. He made it look effortless. Apparently if you
had any culture, you'd appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Trying to do something about fraud, good luck, But at
least they're trying stay.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Tuned, armstrong and getdy.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I am not a fraudster. I got yelled at by
a bill collector the other day who was wrong. He
was just wrong. When did they call you back and
apologize and say sorry for using that tone of voice
where I acted like you were some sort of scumbag
when it turns out where wrong. I realized.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They deal with scumbags all the time, so they probably
get a certain attitude. But sometimes you're wrong. Sometimes you
call people and that bill is.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Paid, and then I, you know, got him back and
say here's the information, here's the day it was paid,
here's the receipt. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
There's no sorry for yelling at you like that anyway.
The medical stuff, that's the tough one is all the
medical bills floating around and you don't and sometimes, at
least as I've been told, if you don't pay it
right away, because they try to get you to pay
it before the insurance pays it. And sometimes if you
don't pay it right away, then the insurance pays it.
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That whole game is complicated. Then you pay the big chunk,
but then there's another eighty dollars with some other entity
somewhere that exists.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Right, and you're thinking, I pay this already, or you never.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Heard of the company before, So you get a text
saying you are eighty two dollars for the Okay, is
this a is this real? Or is this one of
the eight million fraudulent using cogny you know, bill collector
fraud schemes or whatever. It's anyway in the modern world,
it's stuff to tell. Big press conference they just had
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right now with the new acting Attorney General who might
end up being the Attorney general. Trump announced him Todd
Blanche as his pick to be Attorney general. On uh,
They're gonna crack down on fraud and make this really
big thing. So they went out there and he was there,
and Cash Pateel was there, and he announced the ten
most wanted fraudsters in America, which I'm gonna hit you
with a couple of those here in.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Just a second or whatever. But doctor Oz was there
and had one particular example of fraud.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I was visiting a facility called the LaBelle Home Health
is run by women, the Jumi Tatsing. You may not
see her here today because he's in jail. And she
went to jail because she was accused and convicted of
taking building practices to a level we had not seen before.
She was building for people who had deceased. Building for
dead people is a bad looking court, and it showed
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at her conviction when she was accused and appropriately taken
out for doing things that we find reprehensible. Now she
was the only one we wouldn't be here in force. Unfortunately,
this area around Columbus is responsible in Franklin County for
one third of all of the one and a half
billion dollars spent on home healthcare in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Home healthcare is a huge one. This just breaking on
CBS News. Federal authorities have busted what they say is
a thirty million dollar are fraud conspiracy involving billing for
children's behavioral health services. What a gold mine that is
for fraud or counseling. Yep, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. And there are aspects of state and federal laws.
I usually don't bring the stories to you because they're
fairly dry and I don't want to discourage everybody to death.
But some of the legal according to the letter of
the law, exploitations of the public teat running to the
hundreds of millions of dollars and are never at all
what Congress or the state legislature intended. As I said,
(20:36):
I came up with this about six months ago. America's
what would you call it the welfare state is a
giant fraud network that occasionally helps out the needy. Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I wish everybody could get on board with that. As
I've been saying for years, I don't understand why progressives
don't want to crack down on fraud just as much
as physical conservatives, so that that money can actually be
used for the things that you care about more than
I care about. You're the ones that care about the downtrodden.
I would think you would want the money to be
spent on the downtrodden and not stolen. But for whatever reason,
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the left is fine or has never been as animated
about trying to root this stuff out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Doesn't make sense. I want to keep my money.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't care about the downtrodden that much. I want
my money to stay with me, ironed and I went
to work.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You're the one who cares about all these different people,
so I would think you would want the money to
get to them. I just think they believe that at
pointing out fraud or admitting fraud is to indict the
program in general, and so they just pretend it's humming
with your wrang. It makes no sense. It's immoral, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So on this one, there's different kinds of fraud. It's
all bad, but man, some of them are extra bad,
like this one, the one with the children's behavioral health
services for defendants busted in an investigation fourteen vehicles, including
a Maserati and Mercedes, a Bentley and McLaren. So these
scumbags are not only stealing money from you, but they're
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living just a ridiculous What are you doing driving a
Bentley and a McLaren when you're stealing from parents who
sent your kids there attending summer camps, church groups, wrec
programs and everything like that for all kinds of different
psychotherapy around autism or OCD or anxiety or depression or
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all these problems that a lot of us have with
our kids.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And you're freaking stealing from these poor.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Parents and these poor kids and driving around in a Masarati.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You should be executed. Thanks you taking the money.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I want capital punishment for those people. You are the
scummiest of scumbags.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And where there is third party payment, there
is theft and fraud. And the government's a third party.
Everybody knows that it's discouraging. I love that. This is
one of my favorite things that Trump administration has done. Yeah,
go crazy, take take this all the way to the wall.
See how much you can get done.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So Cash Pattel was up there, and first of all,
just one of my little legie hods have been doing
for years. Hey, government people, this whoever invented this idea
of you have a press conference and you spend the
first fifteen minutes congratulating each other? Stop you want to
do that behind closed doors, or you want to do
that at the end, go ahead, But those of us
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who pay your salaries and are paying your organization want
to know what's going on. Tell us that do the
congratulations in the backslap and later hate that cash Ptel
and they all they went on for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I also like to thank the assistant director is doing
a really good job. Okay whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
It finally got around to the information, so the FBI
announced the top ten fraudsters out there. They always have
a list going. It's kind of like the ten most wanted,
but this is particularly around fraud. I just clicked good,
I just clicked on a at random just to see
what they were. Here's this woman young attractive woman, Elaine
Esco who's disappeared. She's wanted for obtaining over thirty two
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million dollars in federal COVID.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Nineteen relief funds. Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
She and a couple other people submitted more than ninety
fraudulent applications for funds from the paycheck Protection program.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I got a friend with an actual business who actually
needed protection and had to jump through all kinds of
hoops and made it almost impossible for him to get
the money. Anyway, this woman and her four friends stole
thirty two million dollars that they didn't deserve or need
at all. These people have disappeared. These fraudsters that are
on the list. This guy, Christopher Burns, he defrauded victims
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out of ten million dollars and he disappeared in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Last he was seen.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He left his home in twenty twenty, the day before
he was supposed to turn over documents to the SEC.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And has never been seen again. At six and a
half years ago, so you'll never see him again. Yeah,
he's living a wonderful life in some other part of
the world, I'm guessing. Anyway, his scheme was he allegedly
falsely told victims he was investing their money in a
peer to peer lending program and the loans are backed
by collateral. Apparently he did not have the collateral and
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all he was doing was stealing their money. But how
do you do that to the tune of ten million dollars?
That's really quite amazing. So okay, this is so they're
taking on private fraud as well as fraudulently bilking taxpayer programs. Yeah,
all kinds of God, all kinds of But I wanted
to love it. I wanted to get to this. Uh,
(25:41):
I'll find it here. The nonprofit state.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
This was from the California Post they put out last
night about how California leads the America, like we do
in so many different things. Sometimes we lead America by
being the worst in America, for instance, that business climate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
The nonprofit state.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
The fraudsters have perfected nonprofits in the state of California,
and a whole bunch of them are getting cracked down on. Finally,
there are in San Francisco, particularly the mayor of San Francisco,
the guy that helped clean up the streets and get
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so many the homeless people off the streets. And all
that sort of stuff, and and change the direction when
people got finally up.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Fed up is trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Crack down on all these different nonprofits that they've got
going on that are are our crap, mayor Lurie trying
to trim the city budget. Hundreds of nonprofit organizations across
San Francisco breaking one point six three billion dollars annually.
That's just city, just in San Francisco, one point sixty
(26:53):
three billion dollars for things like, as it says here
in the California Post, hosting street fairs next to open
drug markets in the Tenderloin, giving free money to undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Repairing historic harms is one of them.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Is one you want to profit, I'd be great at
that one point seven billion dollars for all these different nonprofits.
And then it goes through some of the expenses of
these nonprofits. A lot of the nonprofit money goes to staff.
That's where a ton of this goes. And some nonprofits
almost all the money goes to staff. Using my finger,
the dream Keeper initiative, for example, that is supposed to
(27:30):
have that sounds good. How could you be against something
called the dream Keeper Initiative? And everybody that works for
the nonprofit, they're not in it for profit. They're in
a here to help black residents of San Francisco. They
spent six million dollars on other things like a trip
to Martha's Vineyard for everybody, spa days for exect, a
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bulkholder of employees' children books.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So one of them wrote a book then ordered gazillion
copies of it at the money of the nonprofit.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Anyway, there's all kinds of examples of that. I'm hoping
the whole nonprofit world is finally being exposed for what
it is. And you have to be an actual nonprofit
with a lot of scrutiny on you to survive this
wave of nonprofit. You don't get to just say that anymore,
and I automatically assume.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're doing good stuff. Please. The salaries are the profit,
The benefits are the profit. You get a car, the
travel is the profit. Right, Wake up America, Michael, which
is the fabulous Incogniti messages? Are we? Oh? That's the
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Speaker 4 (29:31):
Man, if my inn conscience didn't get in the way
of this sort of thing, I wish I would have
several years ago tried the whole nonprofit thing or one
of those frauds just to see to pull it off
as like a hobby, you know, you come up with
a name like George Costanzis Human Fund or something like that,
and you have a one sheet about all the good
things you're gonna do, and then you apply to something,
or you go to speak at a rotary club or
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whatever the hell you do to get these things going.
Money starts flowing your way and you drive around in
a nice.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Caring I'm the CEO of this nonprofit. Get I want.
I'm supposed to walk placeless. I gotta have a car.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It just happens to be a McLaren and I need
to travel to various places to talk to other groups
that do similar work as me. How am I supposed
to walk there? Of course I need to fly and
and I got long legs. I need to sit in
first class, and I need a nice bed so I
get a good night's sleep to go to the conference.
So I'm staying in a nice hotel, and I'm managing
a hell of a lot of money. So of course
I make four hundred K a year on top of
the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I was lucky. I guess that. I think I'm pretty
sure it was my dad who explained to me when
excuse me, I guess I was a teenager growing up
in Chicago, Land. How the whole nonprofit thing works. That
the government takes taxpayers, it hands the money, taxpayers money
hands it to the cronies. The cronies then do just
enough work to barely justify their existence, but then they
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keep the money and in return, they turn out the
vote every single time, so the machine stays in power.
And so heck, from before I like kissed a girl,
you know, effectively, I knew what that looked like, which
which unfortunately puts me in a very very small minority
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of people, because I think the nonprofit is one of
those scams. It's like socialism. You have to knock get
back every single generation because it seems attractive on its face,
and nobody goes beyond that. Nobody digs anything.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
People throw that term around as if it is a
solid stamp of goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
What's a nonprofit? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, all right? Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
At one point seven billion dollars going out to nonprofits
just in San Francisco, how much of that is legitimate
making the world a better place?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
People not drawing exorbitant salaries are getting a car or
all the stuff we were just talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Remember when Gavin Newsom admitted that they didn't even have
a mechanism for weighing the effectiveness on of so called
homeless programs. That wasn't an oversight, folks, that was intentionally
laugh I laughed.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
An NBA player just got busted for gambling. I meant
to talk about that because some of the ads they
had for gambling during the Finals game last night.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Anyway, lots to talk about. Stay here.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's now twelve consecutive wins for the next as they
take came one of the NBA Finals their seventh consecutive
road game. A lot of the great playoff runs in
NBA history is still alive.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, I'd say twelve straight. What's interesting is how much
how loud that crowd was. Usually you went on an
opponent's court and it's like a library in there. There's
a lot of Knicks fans in that crowd in San
Antonio that made the trip, apparently, including Timothy Shallomey. I
didn't want to mention a sports thing about this is
just a gambling thing. So I just saw a headline
some NBA player I'd never heard of it's gonna have
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to forfeit his entire salary from last year to million
dollars or something like that because he was involved in
some sort of gambling ring.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Any who. It used to be.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It was just such a great separation between any sort
of gambling and sports broadcasts because they didn't want them
to touch in any way whatsoever, because it would taint
the product or possibly in people's minds think blah blah blah.
And obviously, as we all know, it's gone the other
direction now. It's amazed to how many times during the
finals of the NBA last night, they you know, give
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a guy's stats and say, let's take a look at
the Draftking project projections. All they had wemby ten rebounds
for the game, and he's already halfway there, so that
would be a good you know bet.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean it's during the game. They're promoting gambling on
it as it's happening, I believe, given the riveting excitement
of televised golf. But yeah, they do the same thing
in golf. You know, Jones is two back right now,
he's plus four hundred and thirty two. You know whatever,
Caesar's whatever the hell, fairly regular updates during the telecast.
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How did it change that much money? Money?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I think the leagues are reckoning with uh oh, that's
why we used to keep the h How could I
possibly forget this? I refer to it on a weekly basis.
Chesterton's fence. Whose fence was it? Chesterton? Yeah? Many expenses,
but that is that fence. That's the most relevant one
of this discussions. Certainly they've realized why Chesterton's fence was there.
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If you let gambling get anywhere close to these sports leagues,
it's almost like, you know, it's just well I did.
It'd take too long to spell out the metaphor, but
it should be an entirely neutral zone, a demilitarized zone
where there's no human beings allowed, because once you allow
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two to three to four sorts of human beings to
you allowed in that zone, you can no longer immediately recognize, well,
there's a human being in the zone. And that's the
way it was for gambling in sports. And now, oh man,
do they have problems one more sports? You note the highway.
We know what this guy was doing point shaving, I
don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Now the highest paid athlete in the world show Heyo
Tani for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He hits and pitches
at Hall of Fame level. Six more scoreless innings last night.
He has a point seventy four er at this point
in the season. Ten starts, third lowest ra this far
in a season since nineteen thirteen. Wow, as a guy
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who's hitting over three hundred wows.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
In nineteen thirteen was the raccoon guts ball era or
the ball there were not many home runs? Oh boy,
can't wait to talk about the new What do they
call this? It's a poetry magazine from the new Harvard
(36:03):
Divinity School project. Okay that's devoted to queerness and Palestinian liberation,
among other things, at the Divinity School, Harvard's Divinity School. Yes, okay,
I will read you at least one of the poems
I like better. Rhyme, rhyming.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Nick Lee, a fan just ran on the floor wants
to take a selfie. Security quickly takes him away.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Rod gives him the appropriate girl. You saw the security
guard in pursuit.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Michel Robinson like, what's this dude doing, Scott Farster, You're
gonna come over and.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Explain it to us.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So I thought, wow, somebody could actually get clear to
the middle of the court to a player before a
security guard stops him.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
How do you have access like that? What are you
gonna do? Build a fence walls?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
But you'd have to be either had to have a
really really expensive ticket or the immediate person or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I guess yea, although I have a.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Friend she she went to like a final four NCAA
game because the school she went to, Yukon, made it
to the final four that year and she wanted to go,
so she made she got a lanyard and made with
the pool of plastic thing a thing that said press
with her picture on it, and she just walked in
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and sat.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like right there under the basket with a camera. Wow. Really,
that wasn't even that many years ago. Yeah. Man, I've
been grilled at smaller vents than that. That's crazy, I know.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
So I would talk about the lanyard and the laminated picture.
If you have a laminad picture of yourself, you can
go pretty much anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Nobody could do that on their own right. I'm going
to begin the following discussion with the quote one of
my favorites from James Lindsay Mars Take two. If you
screw up the first word, I mean, by god, that
is just a bad sign. You started to a long story.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Oh yeah, kids, before we leave the dinner table, I've
got a story very important. Yeah, this is one of
the most important things that ever happened in my life.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Blige got ah crap, damn it all. Right, here we go,
Stay two. Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and
blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions. It
works because no one expects another person to lie so overtly.
They don't believe in shared truth. They use words as weapons.
Until you learn to keep this in mind during every interaction,
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you will continue to get played. They rely on you implicitly,
assuming that they have good intentions and are aiming at
shared truth, and so dialogue can be productive. That's a
deception for Marxists. Dialogue is not a way of obtaining truth.
It is a forum for manipulation. Having said that, we
have all those of us concerned with the whole transgender
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craze amongst adolescents and the terrible medical experiments that were
done to these poor confused kids, many of them autistic
or abused or whatever. We've all been acutely aware of
the famous, famous study that was authored by researchers from
the Trevor Project that said, if your kid is not
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affirmed in their gender change, they will kill themselves. And
that horrible threat was repeated so many times to so
many poor confused parents who thought, well, would you rather
have a dead son or a live daughter? They were
asked over and over.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, And that's tough, especially in the early going of
this story when not as much was known. If you
were told, look, there's been a study done, experts have proven,
they would say that your child is a high.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Risk to commit suicide unless you go through with this.
That's a tough position to put a parent in well researchers.
Researchers have gotten hold of the study and the raw
data attached to it, and have finally been able to
take this quote unquote study apart, and what it was
studying was rates of self reported suicide attempts. We're talking
(04:23):
to thirteen to seventeen year olds from before and after
so called anti transgender laws were passed in respondent states,
and pre legislation it zero point five to four per whatever,
one hundred thousand. Researchers set specific time periods following the
implementation of laws in treatment states to track the estimated
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increase in reported suicide attempts that could be linked to
said laws. I'm going to skip some of the technical stuff,
but they noted the Trevor Project researchers and there ought
to be quotes around that. Their activists noted in a
approximately seventy two percent rise in attempted suicide attempts average
suicide attempts from point five to four to point ninety three. This,
(05:10):
in turn, appears to have driven the group's public messaging
regarding a large statistical increase in suicides among transgender and
non very binary use. If there was an unless there
was an affirmation only approach. Blah blah blah quote. Enacting
state level anti transgender laws increased incidents of past year
suicide attempts among TGNB young people by seven to seventy
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two percent. Our findings highlight the need to consider the
mental health impact of recent anti transgender laws and to
advance protective policies meaning affirming only. And they use this
like a cudgel now for years. If you get into
the actual data, virtually the entire increase in suicides was
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in Idaho, using an extremely small sample size that statistically,
if you go from two to three, that's a fifty
percent rise. It's a shocking rise. And what's even crazier
about leaning on Idaho and those numbers was that there
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were only two laws in Idaho even remotely related to
transgender status, including HB five hundred, banned males from participating
in female sports and HB five h nine, a law
concerning how sex is recorded on birth certificates. Neither of
these laws banned or even addressed procedures or treatments for
gender dysphoric youth. So you've got a tiny sample size
(06:44):
of one state correlation not causation, and it was such
a small number. It might have just been the phenomenon
which has just established psychological science at this point. Teen
suicides tend to run in clusters and so there's absolutely
correlization correlation, but no causation here, and then they compare
(07:06):
to apples to oranges or it was just it's absolutely scientifically,
completely invalid. It's to get back to the James Lindsay quote,
it's lies dressed up as science. It's unsupportable scientifically. But
that launched a god, maybe not a thousand, but damn
close to it, a thousand sets of terrified parents who
(07:30):
didn't dare say, wait a minute, my kids alienated and
confused and autistic in all. But oh, you don't think
it's to the bottom of the I think it's a thousand, ah,
but it's well more than that. It could be fifty thousand.
I don't know. I really don't know. But the Trevor
Project's claim has been cited hundreds of times in defense
of looser restrictions on so called gender affirming treatments for
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youth patients, in legislatures, in the press all over the place.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
If you can come up with us stat to back
your argument. Nobody checks where that came from or the
validity of it, and you can get a lot done.
And certainly in the years that we've been doing this
radio show, we've seen that over and over again, whether
it's the nine year old kid and the straws with
the turtle right where states banned straw it's because of that.
(08:20):
I mean, all you need is a stat It doesn't
you might as well just make it up on a
thin air. I mean, it's barely more ridiculous than a
nine year old term paper or a you know, an
instance of a couple of people in Idaho, right, Why
you even go through the trouble of having it be
that real?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And if, as James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose and Peter
Bagoshian so hilariously illustrated with their fake studies for your
grievance studies papers, if you dress it up to look
like a legitimate scientific study or paper or something like that,
then nobody questions it. And what's really shocking about this
fake study is that it made it to the Supreme Court.
(09:02):
The plaintiffs last year in that United States Versus Skurmetti,
which ultimately upheld Tennessee's law banning puberty blockers and hormone
therapy for minors. The plaintiffs cited the Trevor Project's peer
reviewed study and it's seventy two percent statistic right there
at the Supreme Court. A scientific joke of a study
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that's frustrating. It is it lets you know, which is
why I started with the quote I did, let's know
what you're up against. These people are cultists in their
utter lack of desire to examine their own precepts and claims. Anyway,
nuff said.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Got some kind of breaking news. The likely new Attorney General,
Todd blanche As named by President Trump, has announced a
massive crackdown on fraud, all kinds of indictments, defendants many
many millions of dollars. This is something that's long overdue
at every level of government across the country.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
We can touch on that story and a whole bunch
of other stuff. Stay here.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
This bizarre incident unfolding just after nine pm on Saturday,
but a suspect showing up in a TSA checkpoint at
the Sacramento Airport Authority say Kamani Jones, was wearing a
scarf covering his face and latex gloves. When they checked
jones To carry on bag, they say they allegedly discovered
this explosive device, a lighter, as well as a knife, scissors,
(10:40):
more blades, and zip ties. According to the TSA, if
the explosive device had detonated next to a window, it
could have caused significant damage and a loss of cabin pressure.
If convicted, Jones faces a maximum five years in prison.
If BI says Jones has a history.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of paranoia, oh okay, it's a complete nut job.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I mean you show up with a scarf around your
face and rubber gloves on to go through TSA.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So you're not exactly with it with all your tools
of hijack or damage. Yeah, if your mayhem won a
one kit in your bag labeled still in the package.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
But as Noah Rothman told us yesterday, author of Blood
and Progress, when I recorded a podcast about left wing violence,
I don't know what this guy's violence was. I think
it was probably just crazy person violence. But uh, crazy
people have changed history. So yeah, doesn't matter where you're
crazy or not. If you take out a president or
whatever whatever, that changes history. All these big wigs in
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the Justice Department, in the Trump administration having a press
conference right now, big crackdown on fraud. We're going to
talk about that next segment a little bit. Some of
the things they said. And I got a great piece
from the California Post about nonprofits. It's time to completely
unmask the whole nonprofit charade and non governmental organizations and geos.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Different topic, though, I am making an effort to open
my mind about modern art. I've been on this. I've
been on this for a week or so.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Now I don't I don't remember what got me started
on it exactly, so I have Are you familiar with
the frame? There might be other companies that make it,
but Samsung makes one it.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Called the Frame. I thought it best by the first time,
and I thought, what a great idea.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's a tiny, very very thin television. But you can
mount it on your wall. It looks like a picture.
And then there's a subscription thing you sign up for
and you pick out different art and it looks like
you got framed art on your wall, and then you
can change it up. Is what I like so much.
As opposed to being invested in one thing on that wall,
I can keep changing it into different stuff. That's what
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I like and I've always gone with like real art
in my opinion. But I was me and Hitler. The
only thing we have in common is we both hate
modern art. I think it's a charade. But I've been
trying to I've been watching I know what it was.
I just got randomly fed a video on YouTube because
it figured out my algorithm or whatever. Steve Martin and
(13:18):
the comedian, is one of the great correct collectors of
art in the world. He's got they got like one
hundred million dollars with of art.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Oh, it's a tremendous collection. They display it at various
art museums around the world where they'll have the Steve
Martin collection being on display at any given time.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
He's super into it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
But anyway, he had a it was a YouTube video
of him explaining modern art with somebody, an art teacher
and discussing what this and that and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You know. I had to try to learn more about this,
so I'm attempting to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But what I can't tell is how you tell the
difference between something that's just crap and something it is meaningful.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm not there yet, not even close. Yeah. I do
like a lot of abstract art, and maybe modern art.
The problem is I find the permission structure a bit
too wright too broad for modern art. Bananas tape to walls,
et cetera. Exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The famous do camp is that the guy with the
toilet way back one hundred years ago kind of kicked
off this whole craze with that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, abstract art, modern art. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know how you tell the difference. I don't
I don't know how you get your brain to work
in such a way that you are just amazed by
what you see versus the common expression that everybody says.
I think there are books with this title. My kid
could do that, because it often looks like you're what's
the difference. In fact, there was one study where they
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took a bunch of people's like kindergarten kid's art, and
then actual artists art and gave it to art professionals
and how often they could tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And they usually could tell the difference, but not always,
And I feel like it should be closer to always.
All right, everybody has to come up with a modern
art idea. Here's mine, real quick. It's a vacuum cleaner
with a pile of dirt on top of the vacuum cleaner.
And it's entitled now what. That's a good way. It
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makes you think about time and space and vacuum cleaners.
I haven't finished the description.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Henry had a big cardboard box with nothing in it
that he there was going to be his art. He
tried to sell it on e Bay. He didn't get
any takers but Philistines And it was just the idea of,
you know, wondering, what's in the box could be anything,
and all the different things it could be in the box.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And that's I like it. Yeah, I tell you got
one for us.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I do a young child staring straight at a television
and the title is a boy's obsession. It's just a
kid just staring away. Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Makes you stop and saying I only have one title
and then you can apply it to whatever you want
it to be. I've always had the same title. Yeah,
Man's in Humanity Demand. I always liked that title.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just freezing a bunch of a bunch of unassembled bicycle
parts of a pile. Man's in Humanity Demand? Perfect? Yeah,
banana taped to a Mango tape to the wall. Man's
in humanity to man. Of course. The one piece of
modern art that I'll never forget. I was at the
San Francisco MoMA, the Museum of Modern Art, the giant
porcelain Michael Jackson with a chimp, right, sure, Yeah, it
(16:41):
was enormous. It was right in the middle of the room. Yeah,
that's on display in a Los Angeles whichever museum. May
You don't want to give me credit for anything. I
just did ye freak.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
But like I was listening to somebody explain how Jackson Pollock,
the famous splatter painter, You know, those were very deliberate.
That wasn't just haphazard.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It was all kinds of and I've watched videos of
him doing it, and it sure looks haphazard. Do it
look like he's putting a lot of thought into it
as he runs around splatter and paint. That's how good
he was. He made it look effortless. Apparently if you
had any culture, you'd appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Trying to do something about fraud, good luck, But at
least they're trying stay.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Tuned, armstrong and getdy.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I am not a fraudster. I got yelled at by
a bill collector the other day who was wrong. He
was just wrong. When did they call you back and
apologize and say sorry for using that tone of voice
where I acted like you were some sort of scumbag
when it turns out where wrong. I realized.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They deal with scumbags all the time, so they probably
get a certain attitude. But sometimes you're wrong. Sometimes you
call people and that bill is.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Paid, and then I, you know, got him back and
say here's the information, here's the day it was paid,
here's the receipt. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
There's no sorry for yelling at you like that anyway.
The medical stuff, that's the tough one is all the
medical bills floating around and you don't and sometimes, at
least as I've been told, if you don't pay it
right away, because they try to get you to pay
it before the insurance pays it. And sometimes if you
don't pay it right away, then the insurance pays it.
(18:13):
That whole game is complicated. Then you pay the big chunk,
but then there's another eighty dollars with some other entity
somewhere that exists.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Right, and you're thinking, I pay this already, or you never.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Heard of the company before, So you get a text
saying you are eighty two dollars for the Okay, is
this a is this real? Or is this one of
the eight million fraudulent using cogny you know, bill collector
fraud schemes or whatever. It's anyway in the modern world,
it's stuff to tell. Big press conference they just had
(18:47):
right now with the new acting Attorney General who might
end up being the Attorney general. Trump announced him Todd
Blanche as his pick to be Attorney general. On uh,
They're gonna crack down on fraud and make this really
big thing. So they went out there and he was there,
and Cash Pateel was there, and he announced the ten
most wanted fraudsters in America, which I'm gonna hit you
with a couple of those here in.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Just a second or whatever. But doctor Oz was there
and had one particular example of fraud.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I was visiting a facility called the LaBelle Home Health
is run by women, the Jumi Tatsing. You may not
see her here today because he's in jail. And she
went to jail because she was accused and convicted of
taking building practices to a level we had not seen before.
She was building for people who had deceased. Building for
dead people is a bad looking court, and it showed
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at her conviction when she was accused and appropriately taken
out for doing things that we find reprehensible. Now she
was the only one we wouldn't be here in force. Unfortunately,
this area around Columbus is responsible in Franklin County for
one third of all of the one and a half
billion dollars spent on home healthcare in Ohio.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Home healthcare is a huge one. This just breaking on
CBS News. Federal authorities have busted what they say is
a thirty million dollar are fraud conspiracy involving billing for
children's behavioral health services. What a gold mine that is
for fraud or counseling. Yep, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. And there are aspects of state and federal laws.
I usually don't bring the stories to you because they're
fairly dry and I don't want to discourage everybody to death.
But some of the legal according to the letter of
the law, exploitations of the public teat running to the
hundreds of millions of dollars and are never at all
what Congress or the state legislature intended. As I said,
(20:36):
I came up with this about six months ago. America's
what would you call it the welfare state is a
giant fraud network that occasionally helps out the needy. Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I wish everybody could get on board with that. As
I've been saying for years, I don't understand why progressives
don't want to crack down on fraud just as much
as physical conservatives, so that that money can actually be
used for the things that you care about more than
I care about. You're the ones that care about the downtrodden.
I would think you would want the money to be
spent on the downtrodden and not stolen. But for whatever reason,
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the left is fine or has never been as animated
about trying to root this stuff out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Doesn't make sense. I want to keep my money.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I don't care about the downtrodden that much. I want
my money to stay with me, ironed and I went
to work.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
You're the one who cares about all these different people,
so I would think you would want the money to
get to them. I just think they believe that at
pointing out fraud or admitting fraud is to indict the
program in general, and so they just pretend it's humming
with your wrang. It makes no sense. It's immoral, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So on this one, there's different kinds of fraud. It's
all bad, but man, some of them are extra bad,
like this one, the one with the children's behavioral health
services for defendants busted in an investigation fourteen vehicles, including
a Maserati and Mercedes, a Bentley and McLaren. So these
scumbags are not only stealing money from you, but they're
(22:10):
living just a ridiculous What are you doing driving a
Bentley and a McLaren when you're stealing from parents who
sent your kids there attending summer camps, church groups, wrec
programs and everything like that for all kinds of different
psychotherapy around autism or OCD or anxiety or depression or
(22:31):
all these problems that a lot of us have with
our kids.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And you're freaking stealing from these poor.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Parents and these poor kids and driving around in a Masarati.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You should be executed. Thanks you taking the money.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
I want capital punishment for those people. You are the
scummiest of scumbags.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And where there is third party payment, there
is theft and fraud. And the government's a third party.
Everybody knows that it's discouraging. I love that. This is
one of my favorite things that Trump administration has done. Yeah,
go crazy, take take this all the way to the wall.
See how much you can get done.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So Cash Pattel was up there, and first of all,
just one of my little legie hods have been doing
for years. Hey, government people, this whoever invented this idea
of you have a press conference and you spend the
first fifteen minutes congratulating each other? Stop you want to
do that behind closed doors, or you want to do
that at the end, go ahead, But those of us
(23:28):
who pay your salaries and are paying your organization want
to know what's going on. Tell us that do the
congratulations in the backslap and later hate that cash Ptel
and they all they went on for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I also like to thank the assistant director is doing
a really good job. Okay whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
It finally got around to the information, so the FBI
announced the top ten fraudsters out there. They always have
a list going. It's kind of like the ten most wanted,
but this is particularly around fraud. I just clicked good,
I just clicked on a at random just to see
what they were. Here's this woman young attractive woman, Elaine
Esco who's disappeared. She's wanted for obtaining over thirty two
(24:10):
million dollars in federal COVID.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Nineteen relief funds. Wow.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
She and a couple other people submitted more than ninety
fraudulent applications for funds from the paycheck Protection program.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I got a friend with an actual business who actually
needed protection and had to jump through all kinds of
hoops and made it almost impossible for him to get
the money. Anyway, this woman and her four friends stole
thirty two million dollars that they didn't deserve or need
at all. These people have disappeared. These fraudsters that are
on the list. This guy, Christopher Burns, he defrauded victims
(24:45):
out of ten million dollars and he disappeared in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Last he was seen.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He left his home in twenty twenty, the day before
he was supposed to turn over documents to the SEC.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And has never been seen again. At six and a
half years ago, so you'll never see him again. Yeah,
he's living a wonderful life in some other part of
the world, I'm guessing. Anyway, his scheme was he allegedly
falsely told victims he was investing their money in a
peer to peer lending program and the loans are backed
by collateral. Apparently he did not have the collateral and
(25:18):
all he was doing was stealing their money. But how
do you do that to the tune of ten million dollars?
That's really quite amazing. So okay, this is so they're
taking on private fraud as well as fraudulently bilking taxpayer programs. Yeah,
all kinds of God, all kinds of But I wanted
to love it. I wanted to get to this. Uh,
(25:41):
I'll find it here. The nonprofit state.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
This was from the California Post they put out last
night about how California leads the America, like we do
in so many different things. Sometimes we lead America by
being the worst in America, for instance, that business climate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
The nonprofit state.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
The fraudsters have perfected nonprofits in the state of California,
and a whole bunch of them are getting cracked down on. Finally,
there are in San Francisco, particularly the mayor of San Francisco,
the guy that helped clean up the streets and get
(26:23):
so many the homeless people off the streets. And all
that sort of stuff, and and change the direction when
people got finally up.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Fed up is trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Crack down on all these different nonprofits that they've got
going on that are are our crap, mayor Lurie trying
to trim the city budget. Hundreds of nonprofit organizations across
San Francisco breaking one point six three billion dollars annually.
That's just city, just in San Francisco, one point sixty
(26:53):
three billion dollars for things like, as it says here
in the California Post, hosting street fairs next to open
drug markets in the Tenderloin, giving free money to undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Repairing historic harms is one of them.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Is one you want to profit, I'd be great at
that one point seven billion dollars for all these different nonprofits.
And then it goes through some of the expenses of
these nonprofits. A lot of the nonprofit money goes to staff.
That's where a ton of this goes. And some nonprofits
almost all the money goes to staff. Using my finger,
the dream Keeper initiative, for example, that is supposed to
(27:30):
have that sounds good. How could you be against something
called the dream Keeper Initiative? And everybody that works for
the nonprofit, they're not in it for profit. They're in
a here to help black residents of San Francisco. They
spent six million dollars on other things like a trip
to Martha's Vineyard for everybody, spa days for exect, a
(27:50):
bulkholder of employees' children books.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So one of them wrote a book then ordered gazillion
copies of it at the money of the nonprofit.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Anyway, there's all kinds of examples of that. I'm hoping
the whole nonprofit world is finally being exposed for what
it is. And you have to be an actual nonprofit
with a lot of scrutiny on you to survive this
wave of nonprofit. You don't get to just say that anymore,
and I automatically assume.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
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The benefits are the profit. You get a car, the
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Speaker 4 (29:31):
Man, if my inn conscience didn't get in the way
of this sort of thing, I wish I would have
several years ago tried the whole nonprofit thing or one
of those frauds just to see to pull it off
as like a hobby, you know, you come up with
a name like George Costanzis Human Fund or something like that,
and you have a one sheet about all the good
things you're gonna do, and then you apply to something,
or you go to speak at a rotary club or
(29:52):
whatever the hell you do to get these things going.
Money starts flowing your way and you drive around in
a nice.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Caring I'm the CEO of this nonprofit. Get I want.
I'm supposed to walk placeless. I gotta have a car.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It just happens to be a McLaren and I need
to travel to various places to talk to other groups
that do similar work as me. How am I supposed
to walk there? Of course I need to fly and
and I got long legs. I need to sit in
first class, and I need a nice bed so I
get a good night's sleep to go to the conference.
So I'm staying in a nice hotel, and I'm managing
a hell of a lot of money. So of course
I make four hundred K a year on top of
the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I was lucky. I guess that. I think I'm pretty
sure it was my dad who explained to me when
excuse me, I guess I was a teenager growing up
in Chicago, Land. How the whole nonprofit thing works. That
the government takes taxpayers, it hands the money, taxpayers money
hands it to the cronies. The cronies then do just
enough work to barely justify their existence, but then they
(30:45):
keep the money and in return, they turn out the
vote every single time, so the machine stays in power.
And so heck, from before I like kissed a girl,
you know, effectively, I knew what that looked like, which
which unfortunately puts me in a very very small minority
(31:05):
of people, because I think the nonprofit is one of
those scams. It's like socialism. You have to knock get
back every single generation because it seems attractive on its face,
and nobody goes beyond that. Nobody digs anything.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
People throw that term around as if it is a
solid stamp of goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
What's a nonprofit? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, all right? Oh
my god.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
At one point seven billion dollars going out to nonprofits
just in San Francisco, how much of that is legitimate
making the world a better place?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
People not drawing exorbitant salaries are getting a car or
all the stuff we were just talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Remember when Gavin Newsom admitted that they didn't even have
a mechanism for weighing the effectiveness on of so called
homeless programs. That wasn't an oversight, folks, that was intentionally
laugh I laughed.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
An NBA player just got busted for gambling. I meant
to talk about that because some of the ads they
had for gambling during the Finals game last night.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Anyway, lots to talk about. Stay here.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's now twelve consecutive wins for the next as they
take came one of the NBA Finals their seventh consecutive
road game. A lot of the great playoff runs in
NBA history is still alive.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, I'd say twelve straight. What's interesting is how much
how loud that crowd was. Usually you went on an
opponent's court and it's like a library in there. There's
a lot of Knicks fans in that crowd in San
Antonio that made the trip, apparently, including Timothy Shallomey. I
didn't want to mention a sports thing about this is
just a gambling thing. So I just saw a headline
some NBA player I'd never heard of it's gonna have
(32:57):
to forfeit his entire salary from last year to million
dollars or something like that because he was involved in
some sort of gambling ring.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Any who. It used to be.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
It was just such a great separation between any sort
of gambling and sports broadcasts because they didn't want them
to touch in any way whatsoever, because it would taint
the product or possibly in people's minds think blah blah blah.
And obviously, as we all know, it's gone the other
direction now. It's amazed to how many times during the
finals of the NBA last night, they you know, give
(33:33):
a guy's stats and say, let's take a look at
the Draftking project projections. All they had wemby ten rebounds
for the game, and he's already halfway there, so that
would be a good you know bet.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean it's during the game. They're promoting gambling on
it as it's happening, I believe, given the riveting excitement
of televised golf. But yeah, they do the same thing
in golf. You know, Jones is two back right now,
he's plus four hundred and thirty two. You know whatever,
Caesar's whatever the hell, fairly regular updates during the telecast.
(34:06):
How did it change that much money? Money?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I think the leagues are reckoning with uh oh, that's
why we used to keep the h How could I
possibly forget this? I refer to it on a weekly basis.
Chesterton's fence. Whose fence was it? Chesterton? Yeah? Many expenses,
but that is that fence. That's the most relevant one
of this discussions. Certainly they've realized why Chesterton's fence was there.
(34:36):
If you let gambling get anywhere close to these sports leagues,
it's almost like, you know, it's just well I did.
It'd take too long to spell out the metaphor, but
it should be an entirely neutral zone, a demilitarized zone
where there's no human beings allowed, because once you allow
(34:57):
two to three to four sorts of human beings to
you allowed in that zone, you can no longer immediately recognize, well,
there's a human being in the zone. And that's the
way it was for gambling in sports. And now, oh man,
do they have problems one more sports? You note the highway.
We know what this guy was doing point shaving, I
don't know whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Now the highest paid athlete in the world show Heyo
Tani for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He hits and pitches
at Hall of Fame level. Six more scoreless innings last night.
He has a point seventy four er at this point
in the season. Ten starts, third lowest ra this far
in a season since nineteen thirteen. Wow, as a guy
(35:35):
who's hitting over three hundred wows.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
In nineteen thirteen was the raccoon guts ball era or
the ball there were not many home runs? Oh boy,
can't wait to talk about the new What do they
call this? It's a poetry magazine from the new Harvard
(36:03):
Divinity School project. Okay that's devoted to queerness and Palestinian liberation,
among other things, at the Divinity School, Harvard's Divinity School. Yes, okay,
I will read you at least one of the poems
I like better. Rhyme, rhyming.
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