August 12, 2026 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong
and Gatty and no He.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Armstrong and Eddy, two former NBA players, declared their eligibility
for the WNBA draft because they say they identify as women.
The commissioner said, the league is having a meeting to
review what a woman is. So far, they've disqualified anyone
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who could back out of the driveway without running into
the mailbox.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
No, no, not a good joke, not funny, not helping
Greg do better, be better. We're actually going to have
a clip of Greg being better in just a moment
or two. I want to explain this to you, and
I think this is going to become really, really clear.
When we talked to James Lindsay to Riff Thinker writer
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love him in just about half an hour. The WNBA
thing is incredibly important. It may be one of the
pivotal moments in American history. And you think I'm nuts.
(01:25):
Some of you think I'm nuts right now. The WNBA
and its whole wrestling match with yeah women is right
in our name, but we pretend that there's no such
thing as a woman. Because we're woke and we're super
crazy uncomfortable that these two NBA studs, former NBA studs,
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are now going to call us out on our cognitive dissonance,
the ridiculousness of our view. What the hell does that matter?
You think nobody watches the WNBA And if you do, great,
I mean, if you enjoy it, enjoy it. I watch
golf on TV for goodness sake. It's not about that.
The entire philosophical underpinning of that whole A man can
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become a woman is a woman, and men can give
birth is something called critical theory, and it's everywhere everywhere.
It doesn't call itself by that name. You think of
it as woke. Probably, But if we can call them
publicly and everybody sees this, because everybody's paying attention to this,
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or a lot of people are left right and center,
if we can call them on the utter insanity of
critical theory, then the whole woke thing falls apart, and
the whole critical theory slash woke thing that's the underpinning
of modern Marxism and modern third worldism and modern victim
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oppressor philosoph fee and disparate impact and Ibramix, Kendy and
Robin DiAngelo and Black Lives Matter and discriminating against Asian
kids and white kids in schools and elevating people of
whatever color who shouldn't be doctors to the operating room.
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All of that falls apart if we can call them
on this successfully. More on that to come, but for now,
Former Utah Jazz Center us nis Enis Kanter Freedom said
he's officially begun his transition to a transition to a
w NBA player. He announced the move with a video
that has social media buzzing. This guy is ripped. I
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mean ripped. He's got the ten pack abs. He's just big,
but athletic big. Do I sound a little gay right now?
Probably a little. He's a handsome devil and he's super
brave too. We don't have time to talk about that.
He took a great stance when it was really inconvenient
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for him. And then you've got Royce White, who's Michael
Do we have a Rice White clip? Oh? At fourteen?
Here's fourteen. Here's what he's saying. He's out and doing
the media thing.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Set to do an interview with CNN at five pm
Central and around two three o'clock. They messaged me and said,
we're canceling the interview. We have other news. That's still
universal excuse, we have other news. And I just, for
the life of me again, you know, they're not giving
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black women a voice sometimes identify as trans black women
a voice on CNN. Just blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's disappointed. He's taking it seriously. He is a woman,
and somebody tweeted at him, do it, then, actually do it?
Commit to the bit take hormones, you know, get surgery, whatever,
And Royce replied, don't tell me how to be a
black woman. Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a
trans woman has to subject herself to big pharma is
(05:09):
just another way for CIS normative people to turn us
into a commodity. I'm an all natural black trans lesbian
with a penile esthetic. Royce White is brilliant. This is
so good. He's running for the Senate in Minnesota too.
I don't know what his chances are, but man, he
is handling this just right. So this part is less key,
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I think. But it's a good point that Greg Guttfeldt
makes about the war between Dijon Carrington, who hatcheted Stacy Cunningham,
who had said, look, I just don't think biological male
should playing good sport girl sports. And of course there
was a huge backlash against her. She's a transphobe, she's
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a monster, et cetera, et cetera. Greg with a couple
of thoughts on this controversy.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To WNBA player, Dijona Carrington clock Sophie Cunningham so hard
she got ejected. Then she posted white privilege the second
she left the floor, tagging Sophie's team on the post.
But now Djona says that post was just one big misunderstanding.
We just don't understand the phrase white privilege. Yet she
never bothers to explain it, but it made us wonder
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who has the privilege here, Djona or Sophie. Well, Djona
grew up with a wealthy NFL dad, went to a
Christian academy, had a full ride to Stanford majoring in
psychology and African American Studies, degrees that confer both academic
prestige and woke fluency in the progressive frameworks she indulges. Meanwhile,
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Sophie grew up on a farm, helped with harvests, rode horses,
drove trucks, went to a local public school, then the
University of Missouri.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I didn't even know they had it interesting stuff there. Interestingly,
Miss Carrington and d Jahna called her dijon, which is
a mustard. Hanson fixed the sheet anyway, and I apologize.
She was a devoutly Christian, good student, lovely gal, and
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went off to Stanford and every parent's nightmare. Came back
a warrior for wokeness and critical theory. And that's what
she is to this day. One more clip from Gutfeld.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So the lady with the pro athlete dad, the private
school pipeline in the Stanford pedigree is lecturing the farm
kid from Missouri privilege. So once again, who's pushing this
check your privileged nonsense, rich kids who went to elite
colleges majoring in studies.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So he's absolutely right. I'm reminded of a great essay
I saw in the Free Press by Evan Barker. It's
Evan is a girl interesting but you know, name your
kid whatever you want. And she tells her story of
being a democratic activist and the title is the inside
story of how Democrats lost the working class and she
(08:07):
grew up without money and terrible health, problems like life
threatening health problems, and so the availability of healthcare for
somebody with pre existing conditions is incredibly important to her.
And her story is very, very compelling, and I think
if you're a feeling human being, you agree that there's
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got to be a way to get medical care for
somebody with pre existing conditions who can't get insurance. Obamacare
was a terrible solution to the problem. It was utterly
dishonest in its funding, top to bottom. We've talked about
that a lot, But I sympathize with this gal, who
seems to be quite bright and sincere, and she was
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a big Obama fan, big Obamacare fan. When Trump got
elected in twenty sixteen, she was terrified that Obamacare would
be repealed and her terrible health problems would not be treated.
And she lived with some Trust fund roommates who loved
Bernie Sanders. Their main goal in life was to become
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famous artists. I'd hang out on their brawling rooftop alongside
graffiti that read you go girl and f Trump, etc.
And then she got a job in fundraising. She'd done
some organizing fundraising stuff because the healthcare is so important
to her, and she got a job running for a
woman she just calls Karen running for Congress in a
hotly contested swing district, and she was hired. Evan was
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hired to help with fundraising. Karen was a meow hat
wearing housewife with a law degree from a fancy East
Coast school. Her oldest daughter also worked in politics and
had recently moved to DC to start her own nonprofit
with the mission of getting women to blog about social
justice issues. Okay, so that's sort of people we're talking about.
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And Evan immediately she came from Cana went to the
University of Kansas, and immediately sensed the winking mockery she
would get because she was from Kansas, not like affectionate,
you know, the way friends kid each other. But she says, later,
(10:16):
I realized that a lot of the people who look
down on her found my background on appealing because they
thought their children should have my job. That's how it
works in democratic politics. And she got really disenchanted with
the campaign and the Democratic Party and didn't think they
were actually fighting for real people like herself. They're just
you know, power and money hungry, blah blah blah. And
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so she left the Hillary Clinton wing of the party.
And here's where she gets to the main point. And
this is what Greg Guttfeldt was talking about. So over
the next five years, I built my name is a
ruthless fundraiser who taught progressive politicians and organizations how to
raise money. I was just an eyewitness to the left
to take over the party. I was a live player,
helped progressive insurgents infiltrate from within. Initially I worked at
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these names. This the PCCC, a left wing political action
committee that was part of the Elizabeth Warren world. Then
she started at a new progressive fundraising firm called Left Rising.
It was a branch of Bernie a World, and Bernie
was supported by activist ragtag progressives and young men were
as Warren appealed to college educated women and more normy Democrats.
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So she worked really hard at this because she believed
in it, mostly again because of the healthcare thing. And
then she watched Elizabeth Warren accuse Bernie during a live
debate of saying terrible sexist things even though everybody knew
it wasn't true, and she thought, wow, Elizabeth Warren is
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willing to do that to Bernie, and like fake up
concern for women as a wedge and thought, Wow, that's
really troubling. Then the summer of twenty twenty arrived and
America all of a sudden was on fire. In the
days after George Floyd was killed, my boss told us
that if we wanted to protest and ended up getting arrested,
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he'd pay our bail. And she went to a couple
of protests, and she says, I began to notice an
ambient tension in many of my interactions with big donors
and organizations. There was a lot of talk about the
concept of whiteness and what it means to have privilege.
I knew people expected me to be aware of my privilege,
but I did not speak like other white women who
worked in the space. I was very direct in my interactions.
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That's my professional style. I also noticed that many non
white staffers came from privileged backgrounds. One of them was
a black woman I met in Manhattan in the District
Attorney Race. She grew up near Atherton, California, the wealthiest
zip code in the US. On zoom calls, I could
see she lived in a penthouse in New York that
overlooked the Manhattan Skyline. She had another home in LA
where she split her time. My mom back in Missouri
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had a much more marginalized existence than she ever did.
I suppose that's why I didn't feel the same guilt
is those around me. And then she helped get some
squad members elected and says I was beginning to feel
uneasy about the direction the movement. After Biden won the election,
consultant reached out to ask you if we could help
a healthcare organization she was advising two, and we got
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top donors to attend to briefing. But we had to
frame the pitch as a push to reach neglected minority communities,
even though it was just healthcare and women were talking
about the LATINX community. And at one point a black
donor said to a black coworker of hers, we can
talk later in a black space, a safe space. In
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other words, when this young woman gets off the phone,
she says, my face turned bright red. My presence made
the zoom call feel unsafe. She goes into a great
deal of detail of how it all became race based,
grievance based, intersectionality based, and they totally lost the taste
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particularly people who don't have a lot of money and power.
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Armstrong and Yetti. It combines my two favorite things, three
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D printing and helping people need. This makes me so
happy to print it and see the smiles and how
happy the family is that really need the wheelchair. That
is a thirteen year old boy, Zach Waters, from Utah,
who spent his summer three hundred hours of it using
his three D printing skills to build a wheelchair for
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a twenty one month old girl who needed one. He
spent roughly three hundred hours designing, printing, testing, and assembling
the chair. He also made sure it included features that
could make a real difference for the toddler and her family.
Wheelchair has pink accents because pink is the girl's favorite color,
probably because of sexist indoctrination. It also includes a removable
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cup holder and trade table, along with a space on
the back where heavier medical equipment can be stored, and
there are a bunch of other features to this. You know,
I wanted to run this for a couple of reasons
or talking about this. Number one, it's a wonderful story
in heartwarming and it reminds us how many good people
there are. But I heard some learned fellas discussing the
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other day a couple of poll results that have come
out recently, one of which was that two thirds of
people roughly said their personal economic situation was pretty good,
but only half that number said the economy of the
country is doing pretty well, which is, you know, a
bit of a head scratcher, but you could explain it,
I guess, you know, haves and have nots. But there
(16:53):
was another poll where almost eighty percent of people said,
my life going pretty well, living in America pretty damn well,
but only eighteen percent said in general life in America
is pretty good. And I mean, come on, wait a minute,
and we could spend hours or write books on how
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you end up with those results. But the thing I
wanted to say, because we spend a fair amount of
time on the show talking about problems and challenges and
stuff we're fighting against, which I think is important and
we need to do it. But we also need to
remind ourselves more than occasionally. This is an incredible country.
This is a wonderful country. This is truly, as Reagan said,
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the Shining City on the Hill. Yeah, we got problems
and challenges, and we screw up a lot, but so
does that name the country that hasn't named the like
six month period in any country's history since the daught
of man where they haven't had problems and screw ups
and challenges. So don't forget that. Most people are thoroughly
good and decent and patriotic, and this is the land
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of opportunity. Fight like held keep it that way or
it won't be. So it's not like la la la
la whist will pass the graveyard stuff, but don't forget
the good stuff ever. One of our favorite thinkers around
here is James Lindsay. You will know why after you
hear us chat. He is coming up in moments if
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you can't stay around and get the podcast Armstrong e
Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. I have a local
city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy.
What a perfect lead into a conversation with James Lindsay, author, mathematician,
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woke culture critic, critical clown theorist. You probably heard of
James at first in the famous and hilarious Grievance Studies
affair with Peter Bogosi and Helen Pluckrows in their fabulous
hoax papers having to do with the dog parks and
rape culture and the conceptual penis as a social construct.
He also so. James also, along with Helen pluck Rose,
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co authored the book Cynical Theories that I consider absolutely
invaluable to read, at least the first several chapters. You
will read them and you will say, oh my god,
now I get it about the modern world. James joins us, Now,
how are you sir? Hey, Amree, how are you good? Good?
The connection seems really weird. We'll see how it goes.
(19:24):
But I was going to say, I know how busy
you are, so thanks for spending a couple of minutes
to reinforce this front in the same war you've been fighting.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah. Absolutely, I'm always glad to help out here.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
All right. Cool, So I'm going to start the chat
non traditionally with a quiz and we'll see how you
do on it. James lindsay, what links the WNBA's current woes,
the Smithsonian National History Museum becoming an anti American museum,
and people insisting that two plus two can equal five.
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What is the common thread?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You guys probably call it woke, But the answer is
modern Western Marxism.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Right based on in large part critical theory, which you
talk about in cynical theories help people understand. Is woke
not the most useful term? Or what is this thing
shaped like? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I mean, woke is a great term because the way
that this actually works is the people involved feel like
they woke up to a different understanding of reality that
they were asleep just accepting reality as it's handed to them.
And then now they've seen behind the curtain, and what
they see behind the curtain is systems of power that
are dominated by privileged groups ruling everything. So woke is
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a great term. In fact, it's the term they gave themselves.
It's not an academic term or a technical term. Critical theory,
like you just said, is the technical term in critical
theory is this idea that the society is designed to
reproduce itself over and over and over again. This goes
back to the first essay written about the subject in
nineteen thirty seven by Max Horkheimer. He says, the society
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just reproduces itself. It works to make everything better all
the time. And he says, but we question what they
mean by better, because something qualitatively different is necessary to
have better. And by qualitatively different, he means no freedom,
he means no capitalism, he means socialism and central control.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So I think a lot of people, perhaps those who
don't listen to this show, think Marxism. Wait a minute,
that's about workers of the world and the proletariat and
that sort of thing I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Right, So that's the magic word that I threw him
when I said Marxism a moment ago, and I said
Western Marxism. So in the nineteen tens, Marxism split into
two schools. One took over the Soviet or Russia and
became the Soviet Union. That same one went on into China.
That's Eastern Marxism, which effectively went to peasant societies and
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overthrew them and installed dictatorships. Western society had a problem.
It was capitalist, it was successful, there was a rising
middle class, and the middle class was stable and conservative
and didn't want to overthrow its culture, or its economy
or its politics, and Marxism wouldn't take off. But that's
what Marx said would actually happen, is that capitalist societies,
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not peasant societies, would overthrow and become communists. So a
new school of thought that attacks cultural institutions in order
to transform the values of society outside of the workers,
particularly arose, and that's called Western Marxism. The thing we
call woke is a century of that developing to where
it's become a very sophisticated cultural revolution weapon against countries
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like the United States.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I've got so many avenues I want to pursue with
you as a true or well freak. The part that
really disturbs me about critical theory and about what you've
been discussing is the way they aggressively twist language and
terrify people into not saying anything at all. Yeah, this
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kind of tells that.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
One is that they collect all the good words to
themselves and project all the bad words onto their enemies.
And what they've done is systematically spent most of the
twentieth century and beginning of the twenty first century figuring
out words like racist and homophobe and transphobe that will
paralyze their opposition and let them get away with literally
almost anything. People are literally giving it. Look at the
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I know that's Britain, not America, but look at this
Pakistani rape gang scandal in Britain. Scandal is a funny
word for over two hundred and fifty thousand girls, white
girls being raped by Pakistani Muslims in systematic ways. And
this whole thing gets shoved under the rug, It gets downplay,
it gets ignored, it gets covered up because nobody wanted
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to get called racist. That's what they have managed to
do with the bad words, and then they call themselves
good words that people don't understand. They twist like democratic socialist. Well,
they don't tell you when they say democratic socialist that
democratic means only the people who have the right ideology
count as the people and therefore have free speech or
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political suffrage to get to vote, or even at the
end of the day, end up if they get power
having full access to private property. That there's two kinds
of people, the privileged and the oppressed, and only the
oppressed have political rights. They don't tell you that's baked
into their definition of democracy, that that's the way that
Vladimir Lenin, who they take is their inspiration, used the term,
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wrote about the term, explain the term in speeches, and
the same thing with socialism. They try to portray it
in these men on the street videos that Oh, it
means we're going down to the bar and watching the
game and hanging out because we're all having things in common.
It's like socializing, and that's just a lie. Socialism you
cannot voluntarily do. Everybody has to participate. You can't just
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choose to be socialist in your lifestyle. The only way
you can have a socialist lifestyle style is that everybody
has a socialist lifestyle and that the state, with its
guns secures a socialist lifestyle for everybody. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
One of the twists of language that a lot of
folks noticed was the whole that's not free speech, that's
hate speech, and hate speech shouldn't be free speech. Speech
is violence, but then acts of violence er speech. And
you know, if there's an overarching point of this conversation,
it's that a lot of people thought, Wow, those people
are just crazy academic and they don't realize there's a
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huge there's a whole philosophical underpinning to what they're doing.
They're not doing it accidentally because they're wacky. They have
a deliberate purpose. To your point about the Britain rape gangs,
which is, for what it's worth, mister Lindsay did not
exaggerate one iota in the horror of that story. Need
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there be anything else said about the Red Green Alliance?
How Islamists and Marxists work together at overthrow Western civilization
then fight it out afterward, or do you think that
covers the top?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I mean, yeah, there is. Actually I think there's something
very important. People ask all the time, like we have
this movement here in the West, Queers for Palestine. People
think that's funny because they all know that the radical
Giadis will throw gay people off of roofs and openly
now are saying, you know, we're not with you, guys, Instill.
The Queers for Palestine are behind them, this Red Green Alliance.
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Why are Muslims radical Muslims and communists or you know,
democratic socialists working so closely together. Why is this on
Piker so influential? Why do we see these you know,
radical Muslims rising in like Michigan, this lsied guy or whatever.
Why is this happening, and the answer, actually, the interesting
thing is the answer from the communist side is on
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the last page of the Communist manifesto. Mark's on the
last page of the Communist Manifesto says that the Communists
always and everywhere will take the side of any revolutionary
movement that's trying to overthrow the existing order of things.
So the Communists will always, always ally themselves Marxists will
always ally themselves with anything that's socially disruptive. The other
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side is that the principle of common enemy works as
the principle of common enemy for both sides. So the
Muslims are more than happy to play the game, just
like they played the game in Iran in the late
nineteen seventies to establish the you know, the Shia regime
that has been in power ever since. The President Trump
is now trying to dismantle. So they're more than willing
to make frenemies with each other. It's explicitly coded in
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the Communist manifesto as a means of opportunism, and the
radical Muslims see the same exact means of opportunism, and
they've been working together closely for a long time to
take down America take down the West.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well in nineteen seventy nine in Iran, how'd things go
for those college educated, dewey eyed young Marxists who helped
the Iatola come back.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Maybe we should ask them, Oh wait, we can't. They
killed all of them. Oh yeah, it didn't work out.
That's right. And the only the only interesting question about
the entire thing, because the Islamists, the Shia killed them all,
all the Leftists, all the Communists that helped, is whether
or not the Soviet Union let it happen in kind
of a conspiracy theory way, because it would be more
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advantageous to their interests not to have another communist state
arise and to let the Molas run things to their
own benefit without it being explicitly communists. It's the only question.
But the Communists, whether they were sacrificed by their own
headquarters in Moscow or whether they were just the end
result of the Molas taking over, are all dead or
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got kicked out if they were able to flee for
their lives, but they were completely put down.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
We're talking to author James Lindsay, and James, I know
your time is limited, so just one or two more
quick questions and again this is through the lens of Orwell,
but why is it so important that these folks infiltrated
the schools number one and are teaching American history in
the way they're teaching it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Well, you know, it's very interesting because normally, when you
go to give an answer about communists, you stick to
the communists, and you can talk about Lenin saying, you know,
if he's given the youth for a few years, you'll
plant the seed so deep you'll never uproot it. But
the best answer actually comes from a national socialist, namely
the national socialist that Off Hitler. A lot of people
don't know he wrote a book in nineteen twenty eight
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after mind comp It never got published. It's literally called
I'm Not Joking my Secret Book. And in his secret
book he actually has a chapter where he explained that
the older population will never go for this radical proposal
of national socialism the way he's laying it out. And
then he says, in the last few words of that
particular chapter, but what we can do is that we
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can get the youth. We can convince young people that
this is the way the world is supposed to be.
We can convince young people that This is the ideology.
Even if we can't get the old people in, the
next generation coming up will displace the generations that came before,
and so this strategy applies. The theory in communism is
called socialization. They believe everybody learns how to be who
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they are through a social process. There's no there's no
genetic component or anything. You socialize people to be how
they are. So our society socializes them to be capitalists
who believe in freedom, and that's a huge problem. But
if we had a socialist system, it would socialize people
to be socialist.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So what you do.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The easiest people to socialize are children. You take the children,
You get ConTroll of the schools, you get control of
the curriculum, you get control of the young people's minds,
and raise them to believe that they were brought up
in the wrong kind of society, with the wrong kind
of values, with the wrong kind of parents, with the
wrong kind of faith in church. And you get them
to turn against that society by showing them how rotten
and evil and unfair and unjust it was, even though
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it traumatizes them. That's actually to the advantage of the
leftist educator, because that trauma can be used to restructure
their value system. It's actually called borrowing off of Nietzsche
a transvaluation of values, which is written about in the
in the leftist literature as well. So you go after
the young people because it works because older people have roots,
(31:07):
have understanding, had wisdom and won't take it, but the
younger people don't, so they steal people's children on purpose
as a strategic way to overthrow the existing society.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
James Lindsay's fabulous book with Helen Pluckrose's Cynical Theories. James
also a great follow on Twitter or whatever social media
you like. James. We sure appreciate the time you spent
today and if there's anything we can ever do to
help you, please let us know that we're serious about this.
It's a huge fight and it's really important. So thanks
a Millian, keep up the good work.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh absolutely yeah, James Lindsay, everybody, Wow wow wow, More
to come. Kind of talk to lanhi Chan about some
of the big political stories of the day coming up
to kick off our three of the show. But I
thought a perfect follow up to chatting with James Lindsey,
(32:02):
which I hope you enjoyed or found enlightening was to
get back to Evan Barker's piece about how the Democratic
Party lost the working class and when we were previously
discussing it, she was talking about how, as a poor
ish white woman with shaable health problems, she was lectured
by biicoastal, rich elite people of color that she had
(32:25):
privilege and needed to shut up, which she thought was
curious at least, and she points out that race wasn't
the only axis in play, which we'll get to in
a second, but the ultimate example of the woke crowd
perverting language is DEI diversity, equity and inclusion. Diversity means
more people who are woke who agree with everything I
(32:48):
agree with. Politically, Equity means we decide what the results are.
An inclusion means more people who are woke like me
to wit. Oh, here's this young woman told that she
needs to shut up because she's got too much privilege
because she's white. Then she says, gender, of course, was
another area of immense pressure. Regularly I saw female staffers
(33:11):
openly demonized men. One young woman wrote in an open
Slack channel men should be bullied in school more the irony,
of course, was that it was extremely difficult to make
it in progressive politics as a white man. One of
my friends, a white man and a veteran, couldn't find
a job for more than a year until I recommended
him to a friend of mine, a woman of color.
Within a year of starting that job, he was forced
to quit over allegations from another woman of color, apparently
(33:32):
he was not deferential enough to her. And many consultants
couldn't get contracts from campaigns unless they were owned by
women or minorities. What's your race? Donors would ask politicians
on the phone. I'm sorry, I am restricting my investment
to women of color. Only one time we called the donor.
His voicemail said, if you're not a woman of color,
please do not bother leaving a voicemail, I won't donate
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to you. George Sorows's Open Society Policy Center made a
commitment to only give to organizations led by people of
color for the next five year. And so then she
gets to the really interesting part. Diversity. Is that really
what you want? She says later, to check my sanity
and recollection of that time, I made a list of
the top twenty groups in progressive politics this is between
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twenty eighteen and twenty twenty four, eighty five percent of
them had non white leaders. Forty percent of the executive
directors were black, seventy five percent were women, and fifteen
percent of the leaders were white only fifteen percent. Only
a single organization out of the top twenty was represented
by a white male. So they didn't want diversity at all.
(34:39):
They wanted uniformity. If they could pretend it was about
race and accuse you of being a racist, one of
the worst things to be called, they win. As our
guest James Lindsay put it in a whimsical moment a
few years ago, the idea of DEI is, if you
(34:59):
want a control something, call it racist and until you
control it just a very simple version of that. So anyway,
I again recommend James's book Cynical Theory. It's available, you know,
an ebook form, pretty inexpensive and very very readable, and
you know, frankly, like a lot of great books, you know,
read the first four, five, six chapters. You'll get it
(35:22):
and then you know, plow on if you like, but
you don't have to. So again, coming up Lon Heetchen
to discuss the politics of the day. Some of the
the primary results around the country, although we're not going
to you know, flog them to death and try to
ring great meaning out of some vote in Minnesota where
only thirty people showed up. But then I also want
(35:46):
to talk about the situation with Iran, because yesterday the
only way out I see is squeeze them economically till
they give in a substantial way. Well, Iran experts are saying, essentially, dudes,
the way their economy is built, that's not gonna work.
They've been dealing with sanctions and what we would consider
(36:08):
an economic emergency for so long. They've built what they
call a survival economy and that strategy is just not
going to work. So, boy, where that leaves us, I
have no idea whatsoever. Plus a couple of good AI
stories including there's been an escape of an Australian AI
system and it's done dirty deeds, so holy cow, that
(36:31):
and much more. Stay with us. If you can't stay
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Speaker 4 (36:38):
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Armstrong and Eddy, two former NBA players, declared their eligibility
for the WNBA draft because they say they identify as women.
The commissioner said, the league is having a meeting to
review what a woman is. So far, they've disqualified anyone
(00:38):
who could back out of the driveway without running into
the mailbox.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
No, no, not a good joke, not funny, not helping
Greg do better, be better. We're actually going to have
a clip of Greg being better in just a moment
or two. I want to explain this to you, and
I think this is going to become really, really clear.
When we talked to James Lindsay to Riff Thinker writer
(01:05):
love him in just about half an hour. The WNBA
thing is incredibly important. It may be one of the
pivotal moments in American history. And you think I'm nuts.
(01:25):
Some of you think I'm nuts right now. The WNBA
and its whole wrestling match with yeah women is right
in our name, but we pretend that there's no such
thing as a woman. Because we're woke and we're super
crazy uncomfortable that these two NBA studs, former NBA studs,
(01:49):
are now going to call us out on our cognitive dissonance,
the ridiculousness of our view. What the hell does that matter?
You think nobody watches the WNBA And if you do, great,
I mean, if you enjoy it, enjoy it. I watch
golf on TV for goodness sake. It's not about that.
The entire philosophical underpinning of that whole A man can
(02:11):
become a woman is a woman, and men can give
birth is something called critical theory, and it's everywhere everywhere.
It doesn't call itself by that name. You think of
it as woke. Probably, But if we can call them
publicly and everybody sees this, because everybody's paying attention to this,
(02:34):
or a lot of people are left right and center,
if we can call them on the utter insanity of
critical theory, then the whole woke thing falls apart, and
the whole critical theory slash woke thing that's the underpinning
of modern Marxism and modern third worldism and modern victim
(02:58):
oppressor philosoph fee and disparate impact and Ibramix, Kendy and
Robin DiAngelo and Black Lives Matter and discriminating against Asian
kids and white kids in schools and elevating people of
whatever color who shouldn't be doctors to the operating room.
(03:21):
All of that falls apart if we can call them
on this successfully. More on that to come, but for now,
Former Utah Jazz Center us nis Enis Kanter Freedom said
he's officially begun his transition to a transition to a
w NBA player. He announced the move with a video
that has social media buzzing. This guy is ripped. I
(03:44):
mean ripped. He's got the ten pack abs. He's just big,
but athletic big. Do I sound a little gay right now?
Probably a little. He's a handsome devil and he's super
brave too. We don't have time to talk about that.
He took a great stance when it was really inconvenient
(04:06):
for him. And then you've got Royce White, who's Michael
Do we have a Rice White clip? Oh? At fourteen?
Here's fourteen. Here's what he's saying. He's out and doing
the media thing.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Set to do an interview with CNN at five pm
Central and around two three o'clock. They messaged me and said,
we're canceling the interview. We have other news. That's still
universal excuse, we have other news. And I just, for
the life of me again, you know, they're not giving
(04:38):
black women a voice sometimes identify as trans black women
a voice on CNN. Just blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's disappointed. He's taking it seriously. He is a woman,
and somebody tweeted at him, do it, then, actually do it?
Commit to the bit take hormones, you know, get surgery, whatever,
And Royce replied, don't tell me how to be a
black woman. Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a
trans woman has to subject herself to big pharma is
(05:09):
just another way for CIS normative people to turn us
into a commodity. I'm an all natural black trans lesbian
with a penile esthetic. Royce White is brilliant. This is
so good. He's running for the Senate in Minnesota too.
I don't know what his chances are, but man, he
is handling this just right. So this part is less key,
(05:34):
I think. But it's a good point that Greg Guttfeldt
makes about the war between Dijon Carrington, who hatcheted Stacy Cunningham,
who had said, look, I just don't think biological male
should playing good sport girl sports. And of course there
was a huge backlash against her. She's a transphobe, she's
(05:55):
a monster, et cetera, et cetera. Greg with a couple
of thoughts on this controversy.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To WNBA player, Dijona Carrington clock Sophie Cunningham so hard
she got ejected. Then she posted white privilege the second
she left the floor, tagging Sophie's team on the post.
But now Djona says that post was just one big misunderstanding.
We just don't understand the phrase white privilege. Yet she
never bothers to explain it, but it made us wonder
(06:21):
who has the privilege here, Djona or Sophie. Well, Djona
grew up with a wealthy NFL dad, went to a
Christian academy, had a full ride to Stanford majoring in
psychology and African American Studies, degrees that confer both academic
prestige and woke fluency in the progressive frameworks she indulges. Meanwhile,
(06:43):
Sophie grew up on a farm, helped with harvests, rode horses,
drove trucks, went to a local public school, then the
University of Missouri.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I didn't even know they had it interesting stuff there. Interestingly,
Miss Carrington and d Jahna called her dijon, which is
a mustard. Hanson fixed the sheet anyway, and I apologize.
She was a devoutly Christian, good student, lovely gal, and
(07:13):
went off to Stanford and every parent's nightmare. Came back
a warrior for wokeness and critical theory. And that's what
she is to this day. One more clip from Gutfeld.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So the lady with the pro athlete dad, the private
school pipeline in the Stanford pedigree is lecturing the farm
kid from Missouri privilege. So once again, who's pushing this
check your privileged nonsense, rich kids who went to elite
colleges majoring in studies.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So he's absolutely right. I'm reminded of a great essay
I saw in the Free Press by Evan Barker. It's
Evan is a girl interesting but you know, name your
kid whatever you want. And she tells her story of
being a democratic activist and the title is the inside
story of how Democrats lost the working class and she
(08:07):
grew up without money and terrible health, problems like life
threatening health problems, and so the availability of healthcare for
somebody with pre existing conditions is incredibly important to her.
And her story is very, very compelling, and I think
if you're a feeling human being, you agree that there's
(08:28):
got to be a way to get medical care for
somebody with pre existing conditions who can't get insurance. Obamacare
was a terrible solution to the problem. It was utterly
dishonest in its funding, top to bottom. We've talked about
that a lot, But I sympathize with this gal, who
seems to be quite bright and sincere, and she was
(08:51):
a big Obama fan, big Obamacare fan. When Trump got
elected in twenty sixteen, she was terrified that Obamacare would
be repealed and her terrible health problems would not be treated.
And she lived with some Trust fund roommates who loved
Bernie Sanders. Their main goal in life was to become
(09:12):
famous artists. I'd hang out on their brawling rooftop alongside
graffiti that read you go girl and f Trump, etc.
And then she got a job in fundraising. She'd done
some organizing fundraising stuff because the healthcare is so important
to her, and she got a job running for a
woman she just calls Karen running for Congress in a
hotly contested swing district, and she was hired. Evan was
(09:34):
hired to help with fundraising. Karen was a meow hat
wearing housewife with a law degree from a fancy East
Coast school. Her oldest daughter also worked in politics and
had recently moved to DC to start her own nonprofit
with the mission of getting women to blog about social
justice issues. Okay, so that's sort of people we're talking about.
(09:55):
And Evan immediately she came from Cana went to the
University of Kansas, and immediately sensed the winking mockery she
would get because she was from Kansas, not like affectionate,
you know, the way friends kid each other. But she says, later,
(10:16):
I realized that a lot of the people who look
down on her found my background on appealing because they
thought their children should have my job. That's how it
works in democratic politics. And she got really disenchanted with
the campaign and the Democratic Party and didn't think they
were actually fighting for real people like herself. They're just
you know, power and money hungry, blah blah blah. And
(10:37):
so she left the Hillary Clinton wing of the party.
And here's where she gets to the main point. And
this is what Greg Guttfeldt was talking about. So over
the next five years, I built my name is a
ruthless fundraiser who taught progressive politicians and organizations how to
raise money. I was just an eyewitness to the left
to take over the party. I was a live player,
helped progressive insurgents infiltrate from within. Initially I worked at
(11:01):
these names. This the PCCC, a left wing political action
committee that was part of the Elizabeth Warren world. Then
she started at a new progressive fundraising firm called Left Rising.
It was a branch of Bernie a World, and Bernie
was supported by activist ragtag progressives and young men were
as Warren appealed to college educated women and more normy Democrats.
(11:24):
So she worked really hard at this because she believed
in it, mostly again because of the healthcare thing. And
then she watched Elizabeth Warren accuse Bernie during a live
debate of saying terrible sexist things even though everybody knew
it wasn't true, and she thought, wow, Elizabeth Warren is
(11:48):
willing to do that to Bernie, and like fake up
concern for women as a wedge and thought, Wow, that's
really troubling. Then the summer of twenty twenty arrived and
America all of a sudden was on fire. In the
days after George Floyd was killed, my boss told us
that if we wanted to protest and ended up getting arrested,
(12:11):
he'd pay our bail. And she went to a couple
of protests, and she says, I began to notice an
ambient tension in many of my interactions with big donors
and organizations. There was a lot of talk about the
concept of whiteness and what it means to have privilege.
I knew people expected me to be aware of my privilege,
but I did not speak like other white women who
worked in the space. I was very direct in my interactions.
(12:31):
That's my professional style. I also noticed that many non
white staffers came from privileged backgrounds. One of them was
a black woman I met in Manhattan in the District
Attorney Race. She grew up near Atherton, California, the wealthiest
zip code in the US. On zoom calls, I could
see she lived in a penthouse in New York that
overlooked the Manhattan Skyline. She had another home in LA
where she split her time. My mom back in Missouri
(12:54):
had a much more marginalized existence than she ever did.
I suppose that's why I didn't feel the same guilt
is those around me. And then she helped get some
squad members elected and says I was beginning to feel
uneasy about the direction the movement. After Biden won the election,
consultant reached out to ask you if we could help
a healthcare organization she was advising two, and we got
(13:16):
top donors to attend to briefing. But we had to
frame the pitch as a push to reach neglected minority communities,
even though it was just healthcare and women were talking
about the LATINX community. And at one point a black
donor said to a black coworker of hers, we can
talk later in a black space, a safe space. In
(13:39):
other words, when this young woman gets off the phone,
she says, my face turned bright red. My presence made
the zoom call feel unsafe. She goes into a great
deal of detail of how it all became race based,
grievance based, intersectionality based, and they totally lost the taste
(14:00):
for this is a policy that's good for all people,
particularly people who don't have a lot of money and power.
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(15:25):
D printing and helping people need. This makes me so
happy to print it and see the smiles and how
happy the family is that really need the wheelchair. That
is a thirteen year old boy, Zach Waters, from Utah,
who spent his summer three hundred hours of it using
his three D printing skills to build a wheelchair for
(15:49):
a twenty one month old girl who needed one. He
spent roughly three hundred hours designing, printing, testing, and assembling
the chair. He also made sure it included features that
could make a real difference for the toddler and her family.
Wheelchair has pink accents because pink is the girl's favorite color,
probably because of sexist indoctrination. It also includes a removable
(16:10):
cup holder and trade table, along with a space on
the back where heavier medical equipment can be stored, and
there are a bunch of other features to this. You know,
I wanted to run this for a couple of reasons
or talking about this. Number one, it's a wonderful story
in heartwarming and it reminds us how many good people
there are. But I heard some learned fellas discussing the
(16:31):
other day a couple of poll results that have come
out recently, one of which was that two thirds of
people roughly said their personal economic situation was pretty good,
but only half that number said the economy of the
country is doing pretty well, which is, you know, a
bit of a head scratcher, but you could explain it,
I guess, you know, haves and have nots. But there
(16:53):
was another poll where almost eighty percent of people said,
my life going pretty well, living in America pretty damn well,
but only eighteen percent said in general life in America
is pretty good. And I mean, come on, wait a minute,
and we could spend hours or write books on how
(17:15):
you end up with those results. But the thing I
wanted to say, because we spend a fair amount of
time on the show talking about problems and challenges and
stuff we're fighting against, which I think is important and
we need to do it. But we also need to
remind ourselves more than occasionally. This is an incredible country.
This is a wonderful country. This is truly, as Reagan said,
(17:37):
the Shining City on the Hill. Yeah, we got problems
and challenges, and we screw up a lot, but so
does that name the country that hasn't named the like
six month period in any country's history since the daught
of man where they haven't had problems and screw ups
and challenges. So don't forget that. Most people are thoroughly
good and decent and patriotic, and this is the land
(17:58):
of opportunity. Fight like held keep it that way or
it won't be. So it's not like la la la
la whist will pass the graveyard stuff, but don't forget
the good stuff ever. One of our favorite thinkers around
here is James Lindsay. You will know why after you
hear us chat. He is coming up in moments if
(18:18):
you can't stay around and get the podcast Armstrong e
Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. I have a local
city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy.
What a perfect lead into a conversation with James Lindsay, author, mathematician,
(18:40):
woke culture critic, critical clown theorist. You probably heard of
James at first in the famous and hilarious Grievance Studies
affair with Peter Bogosi and Helen Pluckrows in their fabulous
hoax papers having to do with the dog parks and
rape culture and the conceptual penis as a social construct.
He also so. James also, along with Helen pluck Rose,
(19:02):
co authored the book Cynical Theories that I consider absolutely
invaluable to read, at least the first several chapters. You
will read them and you will say, oh my god,
now I get it about the modern world. James joins us, Now,
how are you sir? Hey, Amree, how are you good? Good?
The connection seems really weird. We'll see how it goes.
(19:24):
But I was going to say, I know how busy
you are, so thanks for spending a couple of minutes
to reinforce this front in the same war you've been fighting.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah. Absolutely, I'm always glad to help out here.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
All right. Cool, So I'm going to start the chat
non traditionally with a quiz and we'll see how you
do on it. James lindsay, what links the WNBA's current woes,
the Smithsonian National History Museum becoming an anti American museum,
and people insisting that two plus two can equal five.
(19:58):
What is the common thread?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You guys probably call it woke, But the answer is
modern Western Marxism.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Right based on in large part critical theory, which you
talk about in cynical theories help people understand. Is woke
not the most useful term? Or what is this thing
shaped like? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I mean, woke is a great term because the way
that this actually works is the people involved feel like
they woke up to a different understanding of reality that
they were asleep just accepting reality as it's handed to them.
And then now they've seen behind the curtain, and what
they see behind the curtain is systems of power that
are dominated by privileged groups ruling everything. So woke is
(20:42):
a great term. In fact, it's the term they gave themselves.
It's not an academic term or a technical term. Critical theory,
like you just said, is the technical term in critical
theory is this idea that the society is designed to
reproduce itself over and over and over again. This goes
back to the first essay written about the subject in
nineteen thirty seven by Max Horkheimer. He says, the society
(21:03):
just reproduces itself. It works to make everything better all
the time. And he says, but we question what they
mean by better, because something qualitatively different is necessary to
have better. And by qualitatively different, he means no freedom,
he means no capitalism, he means socialism and central control.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So I think a lot of people, perhaps those who
don't listen to this show, think Marxism. Wait a minute,
that's about workers of the world and the proletariat and
that sort of thing I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Right, So that's the magic word that I threw him
when I said Marxism a moment ago, and I said
Western Marxism. So in the nineteen tens, Marxism split into
two schools. One took over the Soviet or Russia and
became the Soviet Union. That same one went on into China.
That's Eastern Marxism, which effectively went to peasant societies and
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overthrew them and installed dictatorships. Western society had a problem.
It was capitalist, it was successful, there was a rising
middle class, and the middle class was stable and conservative
and didn't want to overthrow its culture, or its economy
or its politics, and Marxism wouldn't take off. But that's
what Marx said would actually happen, is that capitalist societies,
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not peasant societies, would overthrow and become communists. So a
new school of thought that attacks cultural institutions in order
to transform the values of society outside of the workers,
particularly arose, and that's called Western Marxism. The thing we
call woke is a century of that developing to where
it's become a very sophisticated cultural revolution weapon against countries
(22:43):
like the United States.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I've got so many avenues I want to pursue with
you as a true or well freak. The part that
really disturbs me about critical theory and about what you've
been discussing is the way they aggressively twist language and
terrify people into not saying anything at all. Yeah, this
(23:08):
kind of tells that.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
One is that they collect all the good words to
themselves and project all the bad words onto their enemies.
And what they've done is systematically spent most of the
twentieth century and beginning of the twenty first century figuring
out words like racist and homophobe and transphobe that will
paralyze their opposition and let them get away with literally
almost anything. People are literally giving it. Look at the
(23:32):
I know that's Britain, not America, but look at this
Pakistani rape gang scandal in Britain. Scandal is a funny
word for over two hundred and fifty thousand girls, white
girls being raped by Pakistani Muslims in systematic ways. And
this whole thing gets shoved under the rug, It gets downplay,
it gets ignored, it gets covered up because nobody wanted
(23:53):
to get called racist. That's what they have managed to
do with the bad words, and then they call themselves
good words that people don't understand. They twist like democratic socialist. Well,
they don't tell you when they say democratic socialist that
democratic means only the people who have the right ideology
count as the people and therefore have free speech or
(24:14):
political suffrage to get to vote, or even at the
end of the day, end up if they get power
having full access to private property. That there's two kinds
of people, the privileged and the oppressed, and only the
oppressed have political rights. They don't tell you that's baked
into their definition of democracy, that that's the way that
Vladimir Lenin, who they take is their inspiration, used the term,
(24:34):
wrote about the term, explain the term in speeches, and
the same thing with socialism. They try to portray it
in these men on the street videos that Oh, it
means we're going down to the bar and watching the
game and hanging out because we're all having things in common.
It's like socializing, and that's just a lie. Socialism you
cannot voluntarily do. Everybody has to participate. You can't just
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choose to be socialist in your lifestyle. The only way
you can have a socialist lifestyle style is that everybody
has a socialist lifestyle and that the state, with its
guns secures a socialist lifestyle for everybody. Right.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
One of the twists of language that a lot of
folks noticed was the whole that's not free speech, that's
hate speech, and hate speech shouldn't be free speech. Speech
is violence, but then acts of violence er speech. And
you know, if there's an overarching point of this conversation,
it's that a lot of people thought, Wow, those people
are just crazy academic and they don't realize there's a
(25:31):
huge there's a whole philosophical underpinning to what they're doing.
They're not doing it accidentally because they're wacky. They have
a deliberate purpose. To your point about the Britain rape gangs,
which is, for what it's worth, mister Lindsay did not
exaggerate one iota in the horror of that story. Need
(25:51):
there be anything else said about the Red Green Alliance?
How Islamists and Marxists work together at overthrow Western civilization
then fight it out afterward, or do you think that
covers the top?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I mean, yeah, there is. Actually I think there's something
very important. People ask all the time, like we have
this movement here in the West, Queers for Palestine. People
think that's funny because they all know that the radical
Giadis will throw gay people off of roofs and openly
now are saying, you know, we're not with you, guys, Instill.
The Queers for Palestine are behind them, this Red Green Alliance.
(26:23):
Why are Muslims radical Muslims and communists or you know,
democratic socialists working so closely together. Why is this on
Piker so influential? Why do we see these you know,
radical Muslims rising in like Michigan, this lsied guy or whatever.
Why is this happening, and the answer, actually, the interesting
thing is the answer from the communist side is on
(26:44):
the last page of the Communist manifesto. Mark's on the
last page of the Communist Manifesto says that the Communists
always and everywhere will take the side of any revolutionary
movement that's trying to overthrow the existing order of things.
So the Communists will always, always ally themselves Marxists will
always ally themselves with anything that's socially disruptive. The other
(27:05):
side is that the principle of common enemy works as
the principle of common enemy for both sides. So the
Muslims are more than happy to play the game, just
like they played the game in Iran in the late
nineteen seventies to establish the you know, the Shia regime
that has been in power ever since. The President Trump
is now trying to dismantle. So they're more than willing
to make frenemies with each other. It's explicitly coded in
(27:30):
the Communist manifesto as a means of opportunism, and the
radical Muslims see the same exact means of opportunism, and
they've been working together closely for a long time to
take down America take down the West.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well in nineteen seventy nine in Iran, how'd things go
for those college educated, dewey eyed young Marxists who helped
the Iatola come back.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Maybe we should ask them, Oh wait, we can't. They
killed all of them. Oh yeah, it didn't work out.
That's right. And the only the only interesting question about
the entire thing, because the Islamists, the Shia killed them all,
all the Leftists, all the Communists that helped, is whether
or not the Soviet Union let it happen in kind
of a conspiracy theory way, because it would be more
(28:13):
advantageous to their interests not to have another communist state
arise and to let the Molas run things to their
own benefit without it being explicitly communists. It's the only question.
But the Communists, whether they were sacrificed by their own
headquarters in Moscow or whether they were just the end
result of the Molas taking over, are all dead or
(28:35):
got kicked out if they were able to flee for
their lives, but they were completely put down.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
We're talking to author James Lindsay, and James, I know
your time is limited, so just one or two more
quick questions and again this is through the lens of Orwell,
but why is it so important that these folks infiltrated
the schools number one and are teaching American history in
the way they're teaching it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Well, you know, it's very interesting because normally, when you
go to give an answer about communists, you stick to
the communists, and you can talk about Lenin saying, you know,
if he's given the youth for a few years, you'll
plant the seed so deep you'll never uproot it. But
the best answer actually comes from a national socialist, namely
the national socialist that Off Hitler. A lot of people
don't know he wrote a book in nineteen twenty eight
(29:21):
after mind comp It never got published. It's literally called
I'm Not Joking my Secret Book. And in his secret
book he actually has a chapter where he explained that
the older population will never go for this radical proposal
of national socialism the way he's laying it out. And
then he says, in the last few words of that
particular chapter, but what we can do is that we
(29:43):
can get the youth. We can convince young people that
this is the way the world is supposed to be.
We can convince young people that This is the ideology.
Even if we can't get the old people in, the
next generation coming up will displace the generations that came before,
and so this strategy applies. The theory in communism is
called socialization. They believe everybody learns how to be who
(30:04):
they are through a social process. There's no there's no
genetic component or anything. You socialize people to be how
they are. So our society socializes them to be capitalists
who believe in freedom, and that's a huge problem. But
if we had a socialist system, it would socialize people
to be socialist.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So what you do.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The easiest people to socialize are children. You take the children,
You get ConTroll of the schools, you get control of
the curriculum, you get control of the young people's minds,
and raise them to believe that they were brought up
in the wrong kind of society, with the wrong kind
of values, with the wrong kind of parents, with the
wrong kind of faith in church. And you get them
to turn against that society by showing them how rotten
and evil and unfair and unjust it was, even though
(30:46):
it traumatizes them. That's actually to the advantage of the
leftist educator, because that trauma can be used to restructure
their value system. It's actually called borrowing off of Nietzsche
a transvaluation of values, which is written about in the
in the leftist literature as well. So you go after
the young people because it works because older people have roots,
(31:07):
have understanding, had wisdom and won't take it, but the
younger people don't, so they steal people's children on purpose
as a strategic way to overthrow the existing society.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
James Lindsay's fabulous book with Helen Pluckrose's Cynical Theories. James
also a great follow on Twitter or whatever social media
you like. James. We sure appreciate the time you spent
today and if there's anything we can ever do to
help you, please let us know that we're serious about this.
It's a huge fight and it's really important. So thanks
a Millian, keep up the good work.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh absolutely yeah, James Lindsay, everybody, Wow wow wow, More
to come. Kind of talk to lanhi Chan about some
of the big political stories of the day coming up
to kick off our three of the show. But I
thought a perfect follow up to chatting with James Lindsey,
(32:02):
which I hope you enjoyed or found enlightening was to
get back to Evan Barker's piece about how the Democratic
Party lost the working class and when we were previously
discussing it, she was talking about how, as a poor
ish white woman with shaable health problems, she was lectured
by biicoastal, rich elite people of color that she had
(32:25):
privilege and needed to shut up, which she thought was
curious at least, and she points out that race wasn't
the only axis in play, which we'll get to in
a second, but the ultimate example of the woke crowd
perverting language is DEI diversity, equity and inclusion. Diversity means
more people who are woke who agree with everything I
(32:48):
agree with. Politically, Equity means we decide what the results are.
An inclusion means more people who are woke like me
to wit. Oh, here's this young woman told that she
needs to shut up because she's got too much privilege
because she's white. Then she says, gender, of course, was
another area of immense pressure. Regularly I saw female staffers
(33:11):
openly demonized men. One young woman wrote in an open
Slack channel men should be bullied in school more the irony,
of course, was that it was extremely difficult to make
it in progressive politics as a white man. One of
my friends, a white man and a veteran, couldn't find
a job for more than a year until I recommended
him to a friend of mine, a woman of color.
Within a year of starting that job, he was forced
to quit over allegations from another woman of color, apparently
(33:32):
he was not deferential enough to her. And many consultants
couldn't get contracts from campaigns unless they were owned by
women or minorities. What's your race? Donors would ask politicians
on the phone. I'm sorry, I am restricting my investment
to women of color. Only one time we called the donor.
His voicemail said, if you're not a woman of color,
please do not bother leaving a voicemail, I won't donate
(33:53):
to you. George Sorows's Open Society Policy Center made a
commitment to only give to organizations led by people of
color for the next five year. And so then she
gets to the really interesting part. Diversity. Is that really
what you want? She says later, to check my sanity
and recollection of that time, I made a list of
the top twenty groups in progressive politics this is between
(34:14):
twenty eighteen and twenty twenty four, eighty five percent of
them had non white leaders. Forty percent of the executive
directors were black, seventy five percent were women, and fifteen
percent of the leaders were white only fifteen percent. Only
a single organization out of the top twenty was represented
by a white male. So they didn't want diversity at all.
(34:39):
They wanted uniformity. If they could pretend it was about
race and accuse you of being a racist, one of
the worst things to be called, they win. As our
guest James Lindsay put it in a whimsical moment a
few years ago, the idea of DEI is, if you
(34:59):
want a control something, call it racist and until you
control it just a very simple version of that. So anyway,
I again recommend James's book Cynical Theory. It's available, you know,
an ebook form, pretty inexpensive and very very readable, and
you know, frankly, like a lot of great books, you know,
read the first four, five, six chapters. You'll get it
(35:22):
and then you know, plow on if you like, but
you don't have to. So again, coming up Lon Heetchen
to discuss the politics of the day. Some of the
the primary results around the country, although we're not going
to you know, flog them to death and try to
ring great meaning out of some vote in Minnesota where
only thirty people showed up. But then I also want
(35:46):
to talk about the situation with Iran, because yesterday the
only way out I see is squeeze them economically till
they give in a substantial way. Well, Iran experts are saying, essentially, dudes,
the way their economy is built, that's not gonna work.
They've been dealing with sanctions and what we would consider
(36:08):
an economic emergency for so long. They've built what they
call a survival economy and that strategy is just not
going to work. So, boy, where that leaves us, I
have no idea whatsoever. Plus a couple of good AI
stories including there's been an escape of an Australian AI
system and it's done dirty deeds, so holy cow, that
(36:31):
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