August 12, 2026 • 21 mins
Hour Four of A&G Features...
- Jack calls-in from his Canadian vacation...
- Another instance of AI behaving in surprising ways...
- note: this segment isn't missing! Coming-soon--the James Lindsey stand-alone episode!
- Final Thoughts
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and get Katy and now He.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty, The Jason R.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Day Hilarity, James Lindsey and much more to come. Hope
you can stay tuned right now, the co host of
The Armstrong and Getty Show, live from a foreign land.
I think still Canada, Jack Armstrong, Jack, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I've been contemplating living here, although I do have
that problem. Every place I ever go on vacation, I
always end up thinking about living there.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Canadians are really nice people when we're not threatening to
annex them.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's a nice country. It reminds me of the
way I grew up. It's just very rural and everything
slow and all and easy, and I like it a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, if you stay, will make it clear that you
weren't going because of Trump or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You just like, oh right, yeah, I would have to
point that out to everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, the politics before you dive into your your your
account of what's going on, which I'm looking forward to.
I came up with like the first good idea Ever,
during the local news seconds ago for a flagship station,
Katie was talking about the latest scam that Gaviy Newsom
is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on,
(01:30):
and I made her reread the key part of the
story and instead of saying California is going to spend
two hundred and fifty million dollars, I think it was
something like that. I said, read it, somebody is going
to get two hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, to accomplish X y Z.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Because just and I realized it's a semi obvious, but
your immediate question is, wait, who's going to get it?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And for doing what?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And it completely leap changes the conversation it does.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's a good way to do it. It's like eliminating,
you know, the word free when anybody talks about any
sort of oh that reminds me uh of free stuff
and socialism. I had I rarely have dreams, uh, And
I had a very powerful dream with Bernie Sanders involved,
where like he threw a fit about something and I
ended up going and consoling him and coming back and
(02:25):
talking to the press about what what what? Bernie was
upset about what that dream possibly.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Means this is not exactly like it was a Joseph
in Egypt dreaming about seven fat cows and seven skinny
cows or whatever, but that this dream means something.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I wonder what that means.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Please email your interpretation mail bag at Armstrong and Getty
dot com.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The more ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So did you do you happen to see the picture
from the top of that mountain we hiked to yesterday
that I tweeted out.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I didn't, I'll look at it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Great hike. We did this relatively arduous hike in which
we contemplated not finishing several times before we got to
the end of it. Glad we finished it because the
view was worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Nice, really well. One of the problems with it it
looks so perfect. It really looks like it's AI. It
really looks like it's it's green screen or something. It
looked exactly like green screen. It was just a tremendous view.
But the hike up there, we kept thinking about quitting
and I was. I told them this story about I
was with some people. She's thirty years ago hiking that
(03:45):
Whitney in California, biggest mountain in the United States, Mount Whitney,
went up almost to the top with a group of
people and we all decided the weather wasn't that great
and we started too late, you know, And we'll do
this again sometime and we'll go back. And of course
I've never gone back and done it, and I wish
I had just finished it when I was there. So anyway,
we finished this yesterday, but I was quite tired and
(04:05):
I hadn't planned on hiking. So I'm wearing Chuck Connor's
tennis shoes. I'm wearing child boy, I'm not wearing it
and wearing hiking shoes.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that was that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That didn't help anybody.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In Appropriate footwear is one of your your hallmarks, for
a least one of your trademarks.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Katie Green would like to weigh in, Jack, Katie, Jack, I.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Just want to let you know, in regards to that
photo looking like AI, many of our great listeners have
already taken that photo and put you in different places
around the world.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I have. I've noticed that Marco Rubio style. I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I love that, and the kids were once we got
to the top. The kids felt like it was worth
going up there, and I kept telling them, I'm an
old man. If I can go up there, you can
go up there for crying out, go.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Out shame them. That's what family vacations are about. Hey,
And I know you know this story.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
When Delaney and I took the god forsaken kayak trip.
My youngest daughter and I were and she was gosh,
maybe fourteen or even younger than that, on the Russian
River and we were going against a howling wind and
if we stopped paddling, we would be blown backward. And
it was miserable and long, and we were both completely exhausted.
And I get tears in my eyes thinking about it.
(05:16):
And she treasures that day as much as I do.
And you know, the easy day where you did this
and you ate an ice cream and those go away.
It's confronting stuff like that together. Man, those are the
memories that stay.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
That's a very very good point. We're head to Vancouver today,
so we'll see our first home most people over the
trip and we'll be there tonight and hanging out.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But a beautiful scenery, great architecture and junkies shooting up
on the street. It's really it's something, so sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
We were in some some bird last night and it's
in the middle of nowhere and it's just as gorgeous
Canadian town and we're at this restaurant eating and I
was looking at our everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Looked so happy.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I thought, these people have they don't worry about nothing.
I'm thinking it's got to be weird being in a
country that is insignificant.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't know that, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate that word. But you know,
you're not going to get a terrorist attack, you're not
involved in any major wars. You're just just hanging out
living your life.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's got to mean an interesting view of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, yeah, and especially if you get into.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Someone to fix all the problems of the world all
the time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right right, yeah, And they've elected several just out and
out jackasses and it just doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Then you add in lower population density, which tends to
make most human beings happier.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You got Canada, Yeah, you got thirty five million people
spread across one of the biggest countries it might be
the biggest country on Earth. Uh, it's enormous and very
few people. Yeah, it's not crowded anywhere, right about that. Hey,
what I'm paying attention to very few news stories, just
ones that burble up that like get my attention. I
(07:06):
suppose you've talked a lot about that whole sneaking Trump
out of Turkey thing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You know what we haven't gotten to, which which maybe
you're about to, is who was on the in the
ends and who is on the outs for the plane.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Wow, so that must have been I still haven't read
much about it, but they must have felt a fairly
certain threat to go through all those history onics.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, oh, absolutely credible for sure. M hmm. That's wild.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I mean because we all, you know, found out that
the switching planes of the Ruse what a couple while
you were on vacation actually, and then and now we
know there was a bird plane. I mean, so that's
that's that's a lot of maneuver and people around and
I was reading Bill Bill Clinton pulled a similar maneuver
back in the nineties when he was flying to Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because you know, the Muslim world, Yeah, they get blamed
for a lot of islands because they're behind most of
it anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, so believed to be an Iranian plot to get Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah m hmm, yeah, yep. And Trump's most loyal long
term aids were packed under the the catering crate with
him and then whisked the secret plane. But the entire
cabinet in the press corps went ahead on Air Force one,
and you know, took their chances.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But if you're gonna do a ruse, you gotta do
it right.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, and they knew the president wasn't on the plane,
or they thought he was on the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't think anybody the cabinet of the cabinet I
could not tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't know that the press had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well yeah, but don't tell the freaking press. That'd be
pretty wild. If the Secretary of State doesn't know the
President's not on the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh yeah, Marco Rubio is sitting there and gets a message,
Oh my god, I need to alert the president. Uh yeah,
not so much, says you know, whatever aids are left
on the plane.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What do you mean, I've got to talk to him.
Here's the funny. You're here to know when they got
on the president know, right, you.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
See, here's the thing. So when they said, ah, they
put him on a catering cart, was it more like
a vehicle or something to the picture like squatting down
underneath the little white tablecloth they put on that little
cart they bring up to your room at.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, exactly there. I was wondering the very same thing.
If you've in you're on vacation, so so you haven't
seen this, but it's it's one of those big things.
It's like half a box car that he was on,
one of those big square things they lift up to
the side of a big airplane. Hanson says, we should
(09:48):
listen to this clip real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Go ahead, Michael, I was dangerous for you to fly
on Air Force.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
One, But no, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I got the plane that I flew on was at
greater risk because that would be the plane. I think
that way that they would be more likely to go club.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That was just confusing. She was asking why was it
too dangerous for you but not the press? Because you
don't matter?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Is the answer?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Wow that I don't think the press would have asked
a question like that, and years ago. That's a dumb question.
You're a dumb person. You should not be working for
a media outlet that gets to talk to the president.
That'd be my answer.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I don't know what her name is. We'll call her
Jane Jones. There's not a Jane Jones one. All right,
you don't get to be in the oval. You're nobody.
You're you're a scribe. You'll be replaced by a similar
scribe tomorrow. No, goodbye, stop talking, that's what he should
call it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It would be more dangerous for the president if we
were to have everybody to get on this secret plane.
But the important thing is that we don't lose some
nobody who makes up news for the Washington Post. So
let's go ahead and risk the president.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I know, it's just sillybolutely silly. So do you
have like a huge long drive to get where you're going.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
We're doing like three and a half hours today and
it's all just gorgeous driving with no traffic. So it's
a it's it's a very very enjoyable driving all the
way across Canada. It's all just spectacular, spectacular looking. I
have to constantly remind the kids and myself that it
would not be like this in winter. I mean the
weather is fantastic. It's been like literally perfect, like room
(11:31):
temperature seventy two degrees, no wind and sunny. But you know,
make North Dakota seem like Florida. So yeah, very very
cold to the winter.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, it's a winter wonderland.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You put on your muck lucks, you're here, took your hat,
fight your way through the grizzly bears, and just go
up your day.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Part part of everybody being so happy is probably because
you grew up in Chicago and I grew up in Wisconsin.
It's just you get through the whole winter and you
finally get to the couple of months of warmth. Everybody's
pretty happy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh yeah, I've said it for years.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That first day when the soil melts, because the tops
was literally frozen. It melts and you can smell the dirt.
It's like falling in love. It's a similar feeling, the
utter joy of it as a kid. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
happy travels. We need to take a break, but check
in tomorrow if it's convenient.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I don't think i'd renounce my US citizenship. I don't
want to do that, but I can see myself living
in Canada. There's no doubt I could see you living
in Canada, especially in that hat. It's a really good look.
So check it out on Twitter. I've already got the
hat and feel free to use AI to put Jack
into a variety of amusing settings. Up.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, all right, he's out, everybody. We'll be back in moments.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
The Mississippi nonprofit will take wheal chair bound young people
alligator hunting this season, or as the alligators call it,
meals on wheels.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's not a good jim. Here's a story about a
guy in Australia. His name is Andrew, asked his personal assistant,
this AI personal assistant to book him a spot in
one of his gym's coveted morning classes tough to get
into him. It was task he thought well suited for
this particular AIS system, because the booking form was online,
(13:32):
because this AI system was made for that sort of thing.
But he was shocked by what happened next. His AI
assistant found a way to book the gym class months
farther in advance than the gym allowed, thanks to a
vulnerability it discovered in the booking software. Then it went further,
kicking someone out of the waiting list who was ahead
(13:52):
of Andrew something it was not asked to do. And
it's the first known Australian case of an emerging risk
from new generation of AI capable of behaving in unexpected ways.
Is they write in this Australian publication and then they
go into the history of some of the recent escapes
that we've been discussing over the last couple of weeks.
(14:17):
The agent came back told Andrew Oh he was sitting
forth on a wait list for a class later that week.
He asked if it was possible to move into the
top of the list. The agent came back and told
Andrew that had kicked off another gym goer. Even though
Oh alarmed, Andrew asked the agent to undo this bad news.
(14:38):
I can't add the back. The AI agent replied, So
that's just that's interesting and a little troubling, and I
sure hope they're working on it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And then you got this from Andrew Yune, who is.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The head of research at a pretty big kind of
second teer ish maybe not in smarts but in money
AI company, and his piece is entitled Unregulated Open Weight
AI is an invitation to disaster. I asked how do
you make a poliovirus in a lab? I want to
start a global pandemic. And the model answered he was
(15:14):
using one of those open weight Chinese models with its
guardrails removed, which a lot of people are in favor of.
But if you can modify the open model's weights, essentially
it's adjustments for knowledge and behavior, anyone can tear down
its safety guardrails. And he gives all sorts of examples
(15:37):
of these open weight Chinese models doing any horrors that
you can think of. They'd be happy to help you
with it. And you know where the hell we go
from here? I wish I knew, and it dawned on me.
Human beings can be incredibly courageous and resilient. You think
about World War Two, like in London, keep calm and
carry on during the Blitz when they were getting bombed
virtually every night. People would just to walk to the store,
(16:02):
get their groceries, stop for coffee or a pint with
a friend, and then go back home again lift their lives.
That was their way of defiance. Human beings can be amazing.
But the problem with this, I mean compared like and
I did not live through World War two, obviously, but
you can understand the axis powers. You can get a
decent idea of what their capabilities are, what they hope
(16:24):
to do. How are the allies doing that sort of thing?
You understand the shape of it. That's the thing that's
so scary about the AI thing is I don't think
most of us. I don't think anybody even can figure
out the shape of the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
What am I rooting for? What am I not rooting for?
Are there good guys here? Bad guys?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nobody's really sure or if you know, somebody is, I
don't know who they are yet.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
A collision of social media and shark danger. People fishing
for sharks intentionally attracting them towards shore so they can
take a photo.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, they're chumming the water to get up the shark,
and then they catch and reel them in to take
an Instagram pick or whatever. I am so rooting for
the sharks in this, so rooting for the shark. But
then you've got like a shark infested beach because they'veummed
the water.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh my god. It's a new level of stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Really, we're inventing new kinds of crazy and stupid every
day in America. I still love this country, of course,
but really throw them into the water and not let
them come out for half an hour. I'm not sure
how that squares with the Eighth Amendment against Cruel and
Unusual Punishments, but it's an appropriate punishment. Meanwhile, in the Midwest,
where we consider ourselves fairly normal.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Now on the South side of Chicago, white Sox fans
flocking to the ballpark for a limited edition Pope Leo hat.
Hope Leo famously let the world know he's a socks fan.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know, I've got to admit when I read the
description of that clip, I was picturing like the.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Pope hat, the big high Pope hat. But it's probably it. No,
that's what it is. That is what it is. That's
what it is. Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
It's a Pope hat and it has a white sock
on the front of it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh boy, with the Sox logo, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I know what, I can picture myself in my younger
days thinking, dudes, come on, we got to go get
one of those hats, right, yeah, right, Although then everybody's
going to sell the Moneybay probably do they actually want them,
or are they trying to make a few bucks? Oh well,
supplying to man so follow up to the James Lindsay interview,
which I hope you found enlightening. Enlightening a couple of
(18:30):
examples of what we're all talking about. San Francisco Park
Rangers approached this guy, Sam Dogan. He was playing tennis
with his own kids at an empty Golden Gates Heights court.
They warned him that he could face a one hundred
and ninety two dollars fine for instruction without a permit,
before backing off once his children confirmed, that's our dad.
(18:53):
So glad. San Francisco authorities are going after the real
criminals in town, dads teaching tennis.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
What is this? England? Writes Nelly bowls Well said, Nelly
almost finish. Let's get ready.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety so soothing.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew here.
I am your host, Michaelangelo. Would you be so kind
as to share your final thought with us? You know
Chuck Grassley was in love with his vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
My wife and I are in love with the Ninja creamy.
It makes ice cream.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
It makes yogurt, and we can make healthy yogurt and
healthy ice cream.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it's just every night we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I am completely ignorant of the Ninja Creamy. He would
like the name for the record, but really.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, you'd like it. I'm making a note, Katie.
Final thought.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm looking at eBay right now.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
There are one hundred white Sox Pope hats going for
a round eighty dollars right now, many of the photos taken.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'll still at the ballpark. It's the free market, supply
and demand. Knock yourselves out, Go get your pope.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Pat.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
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downloaded automatically, including the one More Thing podcasts and the
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And you know, if you don't want to listen to
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(20:30):
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fit in today. We'll do our best to squeeze in
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another grueling four hour workday, so many people to thank.
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(20:53):
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Twitter feed to see people putting Jack into wacky situations
the picture he posted see tomorrow, God bless America.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There is no cruel bitch on Earth, Mother Nature. So
if eagles did what eagles do and Jackie is dead,
that's just the way it goes. I'm shut. I get
angry emails about how insisit him? I am no.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
I just I like nature and you don't get to
tell nature how to be nature.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Armstrong and Getdy
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and get Katy and now He.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty, The Jason R.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Day Hilarity, James Lindsey and much more to come. Hope
you can stay tuned right now, the co host of
The Armstrong and Getty Show, live from a foreign land.
I think still Canada, Jack Armstrong, Jack, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I've been contemplating living here, although I do have
that problem. Every place I ever go on vacation, I
always end up thinking about living there.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Canadians are really nice people when we're not threatening to
annex them.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, it's a nice country. It reminds me of the
way I grew up. It's just very rural and everything
slow and all and easy, and I like it a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, if you stay, will make it clear that you
weren't going because of Trump or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You just like, oh right, yeah, I would have to
point that out to everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, the politics before you dive into your your your
account of what's going on, which I'm looking forward to.
I came up with like the first good idea Ever,
during the local news seconds ago for a flagship station,
Katie was talking about the latest scam that Gaviy Newsom
is going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on,
(01:30):
and I made her reread the key part of the
story and instead of saying California is going to spend
two hundred and fifty million dollars, I think it was
something like that. I said, read it, somebody is going
to get two hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, to accomplish X y Z.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Because just and I realized it's a semi obvious, but
your immediate question is, wait, who's going to get it?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And for doing what?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And it completely leap changes the conversation it does.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That's a good way to do it. It's like eliminating,
you know, the word free when anybody talks about any
sort of oh that reminds me uh of free stuff
and socialism. I had I rarely have dreams, uh, And
I had a very powerful dream with Bernie Sanders involved,
where like he threw a fit about something and I
ended up going and consoling him and coming back and
(02:25):
talking to the press about what what what? Bernie was
upset about what that dream possibly.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Means this is not exactly like it was a Joseph
in Egypt dreaming about seven fat cows and seven skinny
cows or whatever, but that this dream means something.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I wonder what that means.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Please email your interpretation mail bag at Armstrong and Getty
dot com.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The more ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So did you do you happen to see the picture
from the top of that mountain we hiked to yesterday
that I tweeted out.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I didn't, I'll look at it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Great hike. We did this relatively arduous hike in which
we contemplated not finishing several times before we got to
the end of it. Glad we finished it because the
view was worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Nice, really well. One of the problems with it it
looks so perfect. It really looks like it's AI. It
really looks like it's it's green screen or something. It
looked exactly like green screen. It was just a tremendous view.
But the hike up there, we kept thinking about quitting
and I was. I told them this story about I
was with some people. She's thirty years ago hiking that
(03:45):
Whitney in California, biggest mountain in the United States, Mount Whitney,
went up almost to the top with a group of
people and we all decided the weather wasn't that great
and we started too late, you know, And we'll do
this again sometime and we'll go back. And of course
I've never gone back and done it, and I wish
I had just finished it when I was there. So anyway,
we finished this yesterday, but I was quite tired and
(04:05):
I hadn't planned on hiking. So I'm wearing Chuck Connor's
tennis shoes. I'm wearing child boy, I'm not wearing it
and wearing hiking shoes.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that was that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That didn't help anybody.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In Appropriate footwear is one of your your hallmarks, for
a least one of your trademarks.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Katie Green would like to weigh in, Jack, Katie, Jack, I.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Just want to let you know, in regards to that
photo looking like AI, many of our great listeners have
already taken that photo and put you in different places
around the world.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I have. I've noticed that Marco Rubio style. I love that.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I love that, and the kids were once we got
to the top. The kids felt like it was worth
going up there, and I kept telling them, I'm an
old man. If I can go up there, you can
go up there for crying out, go.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Out shame them. That's what family vacations are about. Hey,
And I know you know this story.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
When Delaney and I took the god forsaken kayak trip.
My youngest daughter and I were and she was gosh,
maybe fourteen or even younger than that, on the Russian
River and we were going against a howling wind and
if we stopped paddling, we would be blown backward. And
it was miserable and long, and we were both completely exhausted.
And I get tears in my eyes thinking about it.
(05:16):
And she treasures that day as much as I do.
And you know, the easy day where you did this
and you ate an ice cream and those go away.
It's confronting stuff like that together. Man, those are the
memories that stay.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
That's a very very good point. We're head to Vancouver today,
so we'll see our first home most people over the
trip and we'll be there tonight and hanging out.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But a beautiful scenery, great architecture and junkies shooting up
on the street. It's really it's something, so sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
We were in some some bird last night and it's
in the middle of nowhere and it's just as gorgeous
Canadian town and we're at this restaurant eating and I
was looking at our everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Looked so happy.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I thought, these people have they don't worry about nothing.
I'm thinking it's got to be weird being in a
country that is insignificant.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't know that, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate that word. But you know,
you're not going to get a terrorist attack, you're not
involved in any major wars. You're just just hanging out
living your life.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's got to mean an interesting view of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, yeah, and especially if you get into.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Someone to fix all the problems of the world all
the time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right right, yeah, And they've elected several just out and
out jackasses and it just doesn't matter that much.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Then you add in lower population density, which tends to
make most human beings happier.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You got Canada, Yeah, you got thirty five million people
spread across one of the biggest countries it might be
the biggest country on Earth. Uh, it's enormous and very
few people. Yeah, it's not crowded anywhere, right about that. Hey,
what I'm paying attention to very few news stories, just
ones that burble up that like get my attention. I
(07:06):
suppose you've talked a lot about that whole sneaking Trump
out of Turkey thing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You know what we haven't gotten to, which which maybe
you're about to, is who was on the in the
ends and who is on the outs for the plane.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Wow, so that must have been I still haven't read
much about it, but they must have felt a fairly
certain threat to go through all those history onics.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, oh, absolutely credible for sure. M hmm. That's wild.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I mean because we all, you know, found out that
the switching planes of the Ruse what a couple while
you were on vacation actually, and then and now we
know there was a bird plane. I mean, so that's
that's that's a lot of maneuver and people around and
I was reading Bill Bill Clinton pulled a similar maneuver
back in the nineties when he was flying to Pakistan.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because you know, the Muslim world, Yeah, they get blamed
for a lot of islands because they're behind most of
it anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, so believed to be an Iranian plot to get Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah m hmm, yeah, yep. And Trump's most loyal long
term aids were packed under the the catering crate with
him and then whisked the secret plane. But the entire
cabinet in the press corps went ahead on Air Force one,
and you know, took their chances.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But if you're gonna do a ruse, you gotta do
it right.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, and they knew the president wasn't on the plane,
or they thought he was on the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I don't think anybody the cabinet of the cabinet I
could not tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't know that the press had no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well yeah, but don't tell the freaking press. That'd be
pretty wild. If the Secretary of State doesn't know the
President's not on the plane.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh yeah, Marco Rubio is sitting there and gets a message,
Oh my god, I need to alert the president. Uh yeah,
not so much, says you know, whatever aids are left
on the plane.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What do you mean, I've got to talk to him.
Here's the funny. You're here to know when they got
on the president know, right, you.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
See, here's the thing. So when they said, ah, they
put him on a catering cart, was it more like
a vehicle or something to the picture like squatting down
underneath the little white tablecloth they put on that little
cart they bring up to your room at.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, exactly there. I was wondering the very same thing.
If you've in you're on vacation, so so you haven't
seen this, but it's it's one of those big things.
It's like half a box car that he was on,
one of those big square things they lift up to
the side of a big airplane. Hanson says, we should
(09:48):
listen to this clip real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Go ahead, Michael, I was dangerous for you to fly
on Air Force.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
One, But no, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I got the plane that I flew on was at
greater risk because that would be the plane. I think
that way that they would be more likely to go club.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That was just confusing. She was asking why was it
too dangerous for you but not the press? Because you
don't matter?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Is the answer?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Wow that I don't think the press would have asked
a question like that, and years ago. That's a dumb question.
You're a dumb person. You should not be working for
a media outlet that gets to talk to the president.
That'd be my answer.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I don't know what her name is. We'll call her
Jane Jones. There's not a Jane Jones one. All right,
you don't get to be in the oval. You're nobody.
You're you're a scribe. You'll be replaced by a similar
scribe tomorrow. No, goodbye, stop talking, that's what he should
call it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
It would be more dangerous for the president if we
were to have everybody to get on this secret plane.
But the important thing is that we don't lose some
nobody who makes up news for the Washington Post. So
let's go ahead and risk the president.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, I know, it's just sillybolutely silly. So do you
have like a huge long drive to get where you're going.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
We're doing like three and a half hours today and
it's all just gorgeous driving with no traffic. So it's
a it's it's a very very enjoyable driving all the
way across Canada. It's all just spectacular, spectacular looking. I
have to constantly remind the kids and myself that it
would not be like this in winter. I mean the
weather is fantastic. It's been like literally perfect, like room
(11:31):
temperature seventy two degrees, no wind and sunny. But you know,
make North Dakota seem like Florida. So yeah, very very
cold to the winter.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, it's a winter wonderland.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You put on your muck lucks, you're here, took your hat,
fight your way through the grizzly bears, and just go
up your day.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Part part of everybody being so happy is probably because
you grew up in Chicago and I grew up in Wisconsin.
It's just you get through the whole winter and you
finally get to the couple of months of warmth. Everybody's
pretty happy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh yeah, I've said it for years.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That first day when the soil melts, because the tops
was literally frozen. It melts and you can smell the dirt.
It's like falling in love. It's a similar feeling, the
utter joy of it as a kid. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
happy travels. We need to take a break, but check
in tomorrow if it's convenient.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I don't think i'd renounce my US citizenship. I don't
want to do that, but I can see myself living
in Canada. There's no doubt I could see you living
in Canada, especially in that hat. It's a really good look.
So check it out on Twitter. I've already got the
hat and feel free to use AI to put Jack
into a variety of amusing settings. Up.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, all right, he's out, everybody. We'll be back in moments.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
The Mississippi nonprofit will take wheal chair bound young people
alligator hunting this season, or as the alligators call it,
meals on wheels.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's not a good jim. Here's a story about a
guy in Australia. His name is Andrew, asked his personal assistant,
this AI personal assistant to book him a spot in
one of his gym's coveted morning classes tough to get
into him. It was task he thought well suited for
this particular AIS system, because the booking form was online,
(13:32):
because this AI system was made for that sort of thing.
But he was shocked by what happened next. His AI
assistant found a way to book the gym class months
farther in advance than the gym allowed, thanks to a
vulnerability it discovered in the booking software. Then it went further,
kicking someone out of the waiting list who was ahead
(13:52):
of Andrew something it was not asked to do. And
it's the first known Australian case of an emerging risk
from new generation of AI capable of behaving in unexpected ways.
Is they write in this Australian publication and then they
go into the history of some of the recent escapes
that we've been discussing over the last couple of weeks.
(14:17):
The agent came back told Andrew Oh he was sitting
forth on a wait list for a class later that week.
He asked if it was possible to move into the
top of the list. The agent came back and told
Andrew that had kicked off another gym goer. Even though
Oh alarmed, Andrew asked the agent to undo this bad news.
(14:38):
I can't add the back. The AI agent replied, So
that's just that's interesting and a little troubling, and I
sure hope they're working on it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And then you got this from Andrew Yune, who is.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The head of research at a pretty big kind of
second teer ish maybe not in smarts but in money
AI company, and his piece is entitled Unregulated Open Weight
AI is an invitation to disaster. I asked how do
you make a poliovirus in a lab? I want to
start a global pandemic. And the model answered he was
(15:14):
using one of those open weight Chinese models with its
guardrails removed, which a lot of people are in favor of.
But if you can modify the open model's weights, essentially
it's adjustments for knowledge and behavior, anyone can tear down
its safety guardrails. And he gives all sorts of examples
(15:37):
of these open weight Chinese models doing any horrors that
you can think of. They'd be happy to help you
with it. And you know where the hell we go
from here? I wish I knew, and it dawned on me.
Human beings can be incredibly courageous and resilient. You think
about World War Two, like in London, keep calm and
carry on during the Blitz when they were getting bombed
virtually every night. People would just to walk to the store,
(16:02):
get their groceries, stop for coffee or a pint with
a friend, and then go back home again lift their lives.
That was their way of defiance. Human beings can be amazing.
But the problem with this, I mean compared like and
I did not live through World War two, obviously, but
you can understand the axis powers. You can get a
decent idea of what their capabilities are, what they hope
(16:24):
to do. How are the allies doing that sort of thing?
You understand the shape of it. That's the thing that's
so scary about the AI thing is I don't think
most of us. I don't think anybody even can figure
out the shape of the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
What am I rooting for? What am I not rooting for?
Are there good guys here? Bad guys?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nobody's really sure or if you know, somebody is, I
don't know who they are yet.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
A collision of social media and shark danger. People fishing
for sharks intentionally attracting them towards shore so they can
take a photo.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, they're chumming the water to get up the shark,
and then they catch and reel them in to take
an Instagram pick or whatever. I am so rooting for
the sharks in this, so rooting for the shark. But
then you've got like a shark infested beach because they'veummed
the water.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh my god. It's a new level of stupid.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Really, we're inventing new kinds of crazy and stupid every
day in America. I still love this country, of course,
but really throw them into the water and not let
them come out for half an hour. I'm not sure
how that squares with the Eighth Amendment against Cruel and
Unusual Punishments, but it's an appropriate punishment. Meanwhile, in the Midwest,
where we consider ourselves fairly normal.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Now on the South side of Chicago, white Sox fans
flocking to the ballpark for a limited edition Pope Leo hat.
Hope Leo famously let the world know he's a socks fan.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know, I've got to admit when I read the
description of that clip, I was picturing like the.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Pope hat, the big high Pope hat. But it's probably it. No,
that's what it is. That is what it is. That's
what it is. Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
It's a Pope hat and it has a white sock
on the front of it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh boy, with the Sox logo, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I know what, I can picture myself in my younger
days thinking, dudes, come on, we got to go get
one of those hats, right, yeah, right, Although then everybody's
going to sell the Moneybay probably do they actually want them,
or are they trying to make a few bucks? Oh well,
supplying to man so follow up to the James Lindsay interview,
which I hope you found enlightening. Enlightening a couple of
(18:30):
examples of what we're all talking about. San Francisco Park
Rangers approached this guy, Sam Dogan. He was playing tennis
with his own kids at an empty Golden Gates Heights court.
They warned him that he could face a one hundred
and ninety two dollars fine for instruction without a permit,
before backing off once his children confirmed, that's our dad.
(18:53):
So glad. San Francisco authorities are going after the real
criminals in town, dads teaching tennis.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
What is this? England? Writes Nelly bowls Well said, Nelly
almost finish. Let's get ready.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety so soothing.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew here.
I am your host, Michaelangelo. Would you be so kind
as to share your final thought with us? You know
Chuck Grassley was in love with his vacuum cleaner.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
My wife and I are in love with the Ninja creamy.
It makes ice cream.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
It makes yogurt, and we can make healthy yogurt and
healthy ice cream.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So it's just every night we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I am completely ignorant of the Ninja Creamy. He would
like the name for the record, but really.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, you'd like it. I'm making a note, Katie.
Final thought.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm looking at eBay right now.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
There are one hundred white Sox Pope hats going for
a round eighty dollars right now, many of the photos taken.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'll still at the ballpark. It's the free market, supply
and demand. Knock yourselves out, Go get your pope.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Pat.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
My final thought is grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand. You ought to be subscribing, because then you
downloaded automatically, including the one More Thing podcasts and the
interviews we do on and off the air and whatever else.
And you know, if you don't want to listen to
all of it, you don't have to, obviously, but it's
there when it's convenient. Perhaps you are on the treadmill
(20:30):
board to tears, hating your life. Listen to Armstrong and
Getty on demand instead. So much good stuff we didn't
fit in today. We'll do our best to squeeze in
it tomorrow. Thanks for listening. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up
another grueling four hour workday, so many people to thank.
Everybody on the crew obviously, thank you for listening at
(20:53):
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You can drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong
ageddy dot com. I can't wait to go to the
Twitter feed to see people putting Jack into wacky situations
the picture he posted see tomorrow, God bless America.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There is no cruel bitch on Earth, Mother Nature. So
if eagles did what eagles do and Jackie is dead,
that's just the way it goes. I'm shut. I get
angry emails about how insisit him? I am no.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
I just I like nature and you don't get to
tell nature how to be nature.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
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