That Was A Quick Hanging

Hour 4 of A&G features...

• C.O.W. Clips of the week & remembering 9/11
• Jack is back & Rick Springfield
• Jack's jury duty
• Final Thoughts! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
We have no idea what it was.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It was a tremendous boom.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
A gigantic sonic boom.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
The air is filled with hundreds of thousands of pieces
of paper that are just sort of floating like confetti.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Stuff just started falling like bricks and paper and everything.
When I looked over, there was this guy that was
on fire.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
He was like screaming, and I just told him to roll, roll,
and he said he can't. He caught fire as a
result of the falling debris?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So, Michael, I'm going to set up 36 here, and
on that morning with the blue sky... and virtually every
news camera available focused on the burning first tower. Well,
people wondered what the hell happened. This happened.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh, my God. Another plane has just hit.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, another one just hit.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh, God.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
There's another one. There was another one.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Explosion.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
One of our producers said perhaps a second plane was involved.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You saw a plane? So a lot of people are
telling their where were you, what were you doing stories.

(01:41):
And I don't find many of them terribly compelling. I'll
just say that Jack and I were off. He was
in Great Britain, and I was dropping my kids off
at school, which is something I almost never do, can do,
because I've made my living in morning radio for years
and years and years. And it was such a pleasure.
And I knew that one plane had hit the building

(02:02):
and thought, like so many of us, How could that happen?
That seems too unlikely to be an accident, but what
could it mean, huh? And then as soon as we
got to the elementary school, one of our kids' friends'
moms came up and said, did you hear a second
plane hit the tower? And I said to my wife, honey,
I've got to go to work, and ran home and

(02:24):
took a lightning shower and was on the air for
the next however long. And I think we all reacted
that way. way on that day, as did, obviously, the
president and the administration. Here, and Jack addressed this fairly

(02:45):
forcefully earlier in the show, we're not in the sad,
sad morning mode here. We're in the, let's appraise the
current threat of Islamic extremism. Let's learn whatever lessons we
can from the attacks and our response to it. the
things we did right, the things we did wrong, those
who are truly mourning, you have our sympathy, and those
who are comforting the mourning, you have our sympathy. And

(03:08):
at 9, at Ground Zero, rather, during the reading of
the names of the victims, Mayor Mamdani and AOC were
yucking it up. I just saw the video. They're laughing
and talking to each other as the names were being
read by the families of the victims. I've not been
comfortable with Mamdani being there, being the mayor of New

(03:29):
York City for a long time, and I've made that
pretty clear for reasons that we'll be talking about in
a second, but I found that absolutely disgusting. Absolutely disgusting,
and I hope everybody in America hears it. So on
that topic, or season, has anybody figured out precisely when

(03:49):
43B happened? No, I'm sorry, 44B. happened, Bush and Condoleezza
Rice talking. It was fairly recently because they're both on
in years. Go ahead and play that, Michael.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I want you to talk about a couple of those events.
You talked about going to the Islamic Center and trying
to make sure that our Muslim American citizens knew that
we didn't blame them for what had happened.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I also made it clear that Islam was a religion
of peace. not a religion of war, and that these
people subverted their religion. Yes. You know, I get trying
to sell that to the Muslims of the world, but
they don't care what you think, Mr. President. To suggest
that Islam as a whole, as a religion of peace,

(04:40):
is stupid almost to the point of being hilarious. It
is utterly untrue. Here's my preface, my disclaimer. Hundreds of
years ago, Christians would slaughter the hell out of each
other over whether you're the right brand of Christian. It's horrible.

(05:02):
I just happened to be reading about an incident in
England back in the 1600s. Just horrible and indefensible. I mean,
as a Christian especially. Christianity reformed. Thank God. No pun intended.
And there are folks... of the Muslim faith who are

(05:27):
similarly attached to their religion as a personal expression of faith,
belief in God, etc. And they have no more intention
or desire to harm me or America or anywhere else
than the Lutherans down the street. They are, and I
know a fair number, lovely, lovely people. They follow a

(05:50):
different religion. But the vast majority of Islam around the
world is not reformed. It is substantially fundamentalist. And if
you know the Koran and know Muhammad, it is, from
the beginning, a religion and a political system that are

(06:10):
inextricable from each other. There is no notion of the
secular in Islam. Fundamentalist Islam. Reformed Islam there is. But
the reformed people, aside from getting my sympathy, because they're
in a hell of a bad position, and I'll explain
why in a second. They're almost irrelevant to the question

(06:32):
because there are hundreds of millions of people who believe
Islam is the way a society should be run, period,
and that it is okay to torture, to kill, to enslave,
to marry children, etc. There are instances where rape is permissible,
especially of nonbelievers. All of that stuff is still believed
by hundreds of millions of people. And it's a relentlessly
expansionist worldview as well and has been from the beginning

(06:56):
of Islam back to the time of the Prophet. And
what's truly unfortunate, and this is what I said I
would get to, for folks who are of a reformed
Muslim mindset, who, again, are my brothers and sisters, my
fellow Americans, my neighbors, God bless you, however you see God.

(07:17):
But the problem for them is, just like we were
talking about the Marxists, how they understand, all right, what
are the real levers in American society? What are the
powerful words? What are the accusations you can make that
make people shut up and say, sorry, sorry, I didn't
mean that, I'm sorry? Calling them a bigot is like

(07:41):
number one in America after our struggle with the civil
rights era and our history, which is not different from
any other country on earth, by the way. Don't let
the Marxists tell you it is. I mean, it's different,
but it's not like fundamentally different. If you call somebody
an Islamophobe, which is a word you should never, ever use. Again,
to quote Andrew Cummins, the writer, it is, Islamophobia is

(08:06):
a word created by fascists and used by cowards to
manipulate morons. So never use that word. But if you
accuse somebody of being a bigot, or you point out
not all Muslims are Islamists, Islamists, Islamofascists, whatever you want
to call them, that's absolutely true. But the problem is
that the Islamists understand that. And the absolutely terrible position

(08:31):
that reformed Muslims are in is that strategy number one
of the hardcore Islamists is to claim up and down
and swear that they're not that, that they're reformed Muslims.
And you, for instance, suggesting that it's inappropriate that they're
chuckling at the 9-11 memorial is bigotry. I am not bigoted.

(08:55):
I know that so I can say it with confidence.
For the millionth time, I've been studying political movements since
I was a teenager. Fundamentalist Islam is one of the
most widespread, powerful, and dangerous political movements on Earth. Period.
And to be afraid to say that because you're afraid

(09:18):
of being called a bigot or an Islamophobe or whatever is,
it's soft-headedness which I could excuse if it didn't result
in what Gad Saad calls suicidal empathy. It's like the

(09:40):
young women that we've played a few weeks ago who say,
you know, if I was raped, I don't know that
I would report it because our judicial system, our carceral system,
our prisons are part of structural racism, and if the
person was a person of color, I would feel bad.

(10:01):
That's suicidal empathy. And that's the problem with being unwilling
to call out Islamism for what it is, because they're
counting on that. They depend on that. They need that.
And then you've got the unholy, and I mean that,
alliance between the Marxists and the Islamists because they both
know that they're useful to each other. And when the

(10:23):
revolution comes and the West falls, then they will fight
for control of it. And who wins depends. Look at Iran. Well,
they won that one. You look at Soviet Union, they
snuffed all the Islamists. At the dawn of the Soviet Union,
you probably don't know this because they don't teach it
to you. There was a significant Islamist movement. There is
in practically every country on earth. And they snuffed the

(10:45):
hell out of those people because they were a threat
to the communists. Anyway, I wanted to get to one
column that I'd read that really made the points I'm
trying to make eloquently clear. And I'd assembled a handful
of stories to illustrate it, and I've got like five
of them. It could have been 50, because there are

(11:08):
so many. But here's, in England, there's a new law
that face coverings are going to be banned in major
British cities within days to prevent masked protesters from committing
acts of mayhem. Maybe you support that, maybe you don't.

(11:28):
But burqas will be exempt. Traditional Islamic face coverings will
be exempt. So as the writer John Edwards, not the
slimy South Carolina politician, but a British writer puts it,
we're rapidly moving towards a two-tier society where Islam has
a privileged place with special exemptions and protections spanning animal welfare,

(11:49):
free speech, blasphemy laws, and now civil liberties and freedom
of assembly. And he's absolutely correct. You've got this. Abdul El-Sayed,
the Michigan Democratic Senate candidate, spoke last weekend at an
Islamic convention in Detroit, and his speech was sandwiched between

(12:11):
a video montage featuring a firebrand imam declaring that America
is going down and a speech from another cleric who
said members of Congress who voted for the anti-Semitism bill
were guilty of treason. he was amongst Islamists, the hardcore
people I'm talking about. Muhammad Al-Said, uh, I'm sorry, Abdul

(12:34):
Al-Said felt comfortable enough during the election season to consort
with these people openly. That level of comfort alone should
be a little, uh, disturbing to you. Uh, but again,
I've got, you know, I've got a bunch more examples
of that, but we're kind of out of time. You
get the idea anyway. Um, Where this goes from here

(12:57):
is the most fascinating question to me when we're thinking
about 9-11. Because Al-Qaeda has gotten the hell beat out
of it. ISIS is mostly a non-factor as we understood
it back when they had the caliphate in Iraq slash Syria,
that area. But you've got massive Islamist movements, incredibly well-armed

(13:19):
in Africa right now and in the Middle East. And
obviously the Taliban is running Afghanistan again. So they remain
an incredibly powerful and an incredibly capable political movement that's
utterly opposed to the West and everything we hold dear.
There's not a shred of the Bill of Rights that
would survive. So more on 9-11 and a bunch of

(13:41):
different stories to come. Stay with us. Coming up, Rick
Springfield killed a guy. But first, look, everybody, it's the co-host,
Jack Armstrong.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Hey, I'm back from jury duty.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Welcome. How'd it go? Boy, that was a quick hang
and well done. I shoved over the podium, I yelled,
and ran out the door. Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm currently hiding in a barn, having been helped by Dr.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Mudd.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
John Wilkes Bonehead.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Now, I will tell my jury duty story, which is
already interesting, which is, you know, one of the reasons
I was excited about going. I'll tell that story coming
up next.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Excellent. Plus, Rick Springfield killed a guy. I want to
be on that jury.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Go ahead, Michael.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Play 22 for us.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Rocker Rick Springfield, singer of Jessie's Girl, revealing to Joe
Rogan he killed a man in Vietnam while he was
there performing for troops. He said it happened during the
war in 1968 before he was famous and adding he
was staying at a U.S. Navy encampment when it came
under attack. He said he threw a mortar that hit
a Viet Cong attacker. Springfield says that experience never left him.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
What? He threw a mortar?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Why did he have a mortar?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
How old was he? Is that a thing?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Wasn't he like 12?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
How old was he? So many questions.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh, he's like 72 or something and performs shirtless now.
He's ripped. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I saw him live.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Kudos. Yeah. Who could forget?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I really liked his first two albums. I know that
makes me gay, but.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That was great pop music. Why not? If it makes
you happy, that's good music for you. Dar, what was
I going to say? Oh, yeah, the idea of you
were there during an attack in Vietnam and... Again, I ask,
is Mortar throwing a thing? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that
makes crap up like that, although he is very hot-tempered
when I saw him in concert.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Plus, he's envious of Jesse and his liaison, as he
made clear in song. I'm told we'll have the story
coming up.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Katie can fill it in, right? Or is that why
you're looking like that, Katie? No, I was just going
to tell you he was 17 when this happened.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
What an amazing experience. I mean, to go and play
for the troops in Vietnam, I almost said I would
have killed for that.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
He did.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But as a teenage rock and roll guy, to go
play for the troops would have been incredible.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah. He was on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan wanted to
talk to Rick Springfield.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. I would talk to him, I guess. Anyway, that
wasn't a showstopper, but it certainly slowed it down. I'm sorry,
I'm just picturing a young musician there. Now, we've both
ridden along with various police forces, and on a couple
of occasions, the cops said, listen, this is highly unlikely,
but if everything goes completely nuts, here's how you get

(16:45):
the shotgun out. And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I saw him in a tiny, tiny little venue with
like 100 other people, and he wanted to kill his
sound guy like he wanted to kill that guy in Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wow. Wow, he had properly vented all of his rage
in Vietnam, apparently. He was so angry.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I want to tell you about my jury experience. Brushing
up against the regular man. It's always interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
So I had jury duty. I was gone. If you're
just tuning in, I was gone for an hour, a
little over an hour. And I thought I'd be gone
longer than that. I didn't. I wish they'd have communicated
better what they were doing today or I wouldn't have
gone in at all. You were allowed to Zoom, which
I didn't understand how that worked exactly. Plus, it's only

(17:36):
a couple of miles from my house and I wanted
the experience of being there. All it was was they
went through everybody's name and said, do you have a hardship?
And they answered yes or no. And if your answer
was no, you got up and left. Well, I could
have done that over Zoom. Interesting, the description of a hardship.

(17:57):
He said he's going to be very strict. They're seating
three juries for three four-day trials. I have to go
in Monday at 10. And I was kind of doing
the counting on the screen and in the room and
looks like about they're gonna need like half of us
to get three three full juries for four try for
uh three trials for four days but anyway um we'll

(18:19):
see if i make the cut next week but a
couple of things um so i park and i'm walking
and i don't know where i'm going I'd never been
into this courthouse since they built the new courthouse. And
I see guys with blue cards like I got. And
I run up next to him. I say, hey, you
got a blue card like me. I assume you know
where you're going. He said, yeah, you haven't been here before.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I said, no.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
He said, well, you're going to be here all day.
He said, the last three times I've done this where
it's all day. So it turned out it wasn't even
hardly five minutes, depending on where your name was in
the list.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
How interesting.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
People really rearrange their schedule a lot to go in
there to answer. No.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay. Go home.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
All right. But he said the judge said he was
going to be really strict with hardships, and I understand
why you need to be. He said having to rearrange
things for your life or, hey, I'm going to miss
work is not a hardship. And if you answered yes,
you had to stay there until they went through everybody,

(19:18):
and then he was going to talk to everybody and
get into the details about your supposed hardship and then
make a ruling whether that counted as a hardship or not.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I've seen that process, and they don't take any guff.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, they shouldn't. I mean, it's going to be really
annoying for me. I've got to figure out a whole
bunch of child care stuff that is going to be
a pain in the ass, and I'm not even sure
I've got people to do it. But, you know, if
everybody got out of jury duty because they have a
job or child care, there'd be nobody on a jury.
First of all, running up there, it said on the card,

(19:50):
business casual, you know, dress appropriately for the courtroom. This
is an important civic duty and all that. And I
dressed business casual. There are plenty of dudes in shorts, flip-flops,
tank tops, and backwards ball caps.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
They didn't care much about that particular order or don't
know what it means. I often wonder stuff like that.
Is that people? It's like, if you all do what
I want or like they don't know what that means
or they didn't read the card or what is that?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Probably some of from each category, I guess. And then
the other the other part, they should be admonished. Did
the judge admonish them? I'm not a get dressed up
sort of guy, but I feel like. I might be
sending somebody to prison for the rest of their life.
I feel like I had to dress like it's, you know,
kind of an important thing. Not like it's a day

(20:39):
at the beach. Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I wore a shirt with a collar. Also on the
Zoom thing. So I think there were as many people
on Zoom as there were in the courtroom. And maybe
they knew what we were doing today. I should have
been on Zoom. But just hilarious. And this is like
any business Zoom call, only worse because you're dealing with

(21:01):
the masses. And when you deal with the masses, you realize,
when you just do the random masses, you probably can't
get a better cross-section of random than you can in
jury pools, can you? I don't know what it would be.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Right.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
And when you do that, you realize, I really hang
around with people like myself. I do not hang out
with just the random people as much as I think
I do. And none of us do, really. Right.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Unless you deal with the public routinely.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Even then.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
But in your personal life, you certainly self-select. I think
that's the term.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Like, you work at a restaurant, it's still selective on
a certain level of a kind of people. Mm-hmm. Because
you'd have people that are too good for the restaurant
that you work at and people that are... Beneath the
restaurant you work at. You're here, and you got everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sir, you are beneath this Denny's.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Now, get.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, that's funny. So they got all these people.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
There's like 30 people up on this Zoom screen, and
we all know the mute-unmute problem in business settings. But
those are people that are capable of working wherever you work,
and they still struggle a little bit. With this group,
it was just... hilarious so you got some sort of
guy in a cop outfit whatever his job is telling

(22:27):
everybody to mute before the judge even comes out and
uh everybody and it's just a cacophony of noise coming
off of this screen i mean there's music there's phone
conversations there's dogs barking there's cars because some people are
driving while they're doing this oh boy any and they
just keep repeating please mute if you could all mute

(22:47):
and it just keeps going and going and going all
these different noises so obviously tens of people aren't muted
even though they've been instructed.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
15 times to mute again i ask what is that
do they not hear it do they not know what.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
That means do they not care which is it they.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Are muted already maybe i don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't know either. And so it's the cop guy.
Then it's whatever the lady is who does the microphoning.
She's like the emcee. Hey, everybody. Welcome to court. And
then she goes through the please mute. And you can
hear people singing and kids and dogs and all this stuff.

(23:31):
And then the judge comes out. And I hate to
make any critique of the judge because it'll get back
to him and he'll think, because he seemed like a
really nice guy and I liked the way he handled everything.
He moved along really fast. But he did one of
my least favorite things that I've hated since I was
a little kid, whether it's a high school teacher or
somebody trying to sell me something at a seminar or
what it is. He comes out and he says, good morning, everybody.

(23:52):
And there's kind of a mumble of, Let's try that again.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Good morning, everybody.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
And I'm like, what ever?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I mean, come on.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm doing my civic duty. I'm here at the seminar.
I'm at my high school class. I don't owe you
a certain level of enthusiasm with my good morning. I
showed up. I'm paying attention. I'll do what I'm supposed to.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
I will render a verdict free of prejudice or malice,
but not a big good morning, guys.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Anyway, other than that, I liked everything about the cut
of this guy's jib. So if I end up in
the courtroom, that'll be cool. And he moved really fast.
But he starts. So they have the ability to mute everybody.
So he says, okay, I'm Judge So-and-so, and this is
what it's like. Now I'm going to take the mute
off for everyone. I would like you to please mute

(24:47):
on your own computer, and then we'll go through the
names and ask about the hardships. As soon as he
tells the emcee, come on down, the emcee of the courtroom,
to unmute everybody, the second she clicks unmute, it's just, arf, arf, sing, sing, chorus.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Everybody. Oh, boy. I wish I'd heard it.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
And you could tell by the look on the judge's
face that this is what always happens. And, oh, my God,
I can't believe this is what humanity is.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, that's the thing. And we ought to talk to
Judge Larry about this someday. But they do this over
and over again. They see it, you know, at least
once every month or something when they're assembling juries. And
it's always the same problems, and it's always the same
lame excuses, and it's always the same not muting and
dog barking and singing and all. And I think you

(25:41):
have two choices. You can either get like the judges do,
which is businesslike but cheery, or it would make you
completely insane, and you would die of homicidal rage.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah. It was like a Saturday Night Live bit, though,
when they unmuted that, and the selection of noises was
like if for a comedy effect, I had chosen a
little kid, someone singing in their car, dogs' cars, there
was a horn playing somewhere.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
It was just hilarious.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
And everybody, the looks on half the people's faces is
like they're just completely clueless as to what muting even means. Oh,
my God. How is this possible?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
As I've said before, being on juries has been one
of the most fascinating sets of experiences of my life.
But I can't remember which one it was. I think
it was the first jury I was on. You were
talking about self-selecting who we hang out with and You
brush up against people of various sorts in your life,

(26:52):
but you don't spend a lot of time with them.
Unless you're working at a very entry-level job. That was
my first time having to be in the same room
for hours with a couple of people who lacked the
capacity for rational thought.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
They just couldn't. That's going to be my line in
the jury deliberation room if I make it that far. Look, dude,
you don't even know how to mute or unmute on
a Zoom call. So how about you just pipe down?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, I'll never forget. There were a couple of people,
one girl in particular. She was very sweet. She was
doing her best. Good kid, but dumb as a dog.
I mean, this poor kid.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
That's a phrase.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh, she could not think her way out of a
three-walled room. I mean, she would just keep walking into
one of the walls.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, I'm pretty ambivalent or of two minds about wanting
to get on jury. I would love to have the experience.
I think it'd be so good for talking about all
kinds of legal stuff and civics going forward on the
show and just for the life experience. But man, he
said all three trials are expected to be four days.
So that'd be four days in the courtroom, plus at

(28:06):
least a day of deliberation. So count on 10 to
430 Monday through Friday next week. And that's going to
be really difficult for me to pull off. So this
is what I'm going to do. Listeners, I need random
listeners who can pick up my kids at my house,
take them to school. Then I got various drop, pick
them up from school and then various activities during the week.
You got a dental appointment, got Boy Scouts, got band,

(28:29):
got a DMV appointment. So I just need random listeners
who can drive my kids around. Just go ahead and
send me. I don't know. A picture and a name,
and I'll get back to you.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Or, failing that, just give each one of them a vehicle. It's,
you know, we all figured out how to drive. They
can do it. They're bright kids. Just turn them loose. Oh, boy.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I thought, oh, my God. And the job of this judge, who's,
you know, by definition... law school, smart guy, all kinds
of stuff. You got to sit there all day long
and argue with 30 people about whether or not they
have a hardship? Oh, kill me.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Oh, yeah. Having heard every single excuse 876 times. Oh,
and I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Many people said this, but I was like the 10th
name on the list or something. I got lucky. I thought,
I'm going to be here for an hour and a
half just to get to my name so I can
say no, and then you'll.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Say, have a good day.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
But luckily, I came up pretty fast, but Seven of
the nine people in front of me all said they
had a hardship. So I don't know if those odds
kept up. Almost everybody was going to claim a hardship
and argue that they couldn't do jury duty.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh, and if they couldn't figure out how to... mute,
the idea of them grokking the fact that I have
a job or I usually do this is not a hardship,
forget it. There's zero chance of them comprehending that. And
saying to themselves, oh, okay, I do not meet the standard,
dang it. Because I've seen that. I've been on several juries.

(29:59):
I've been through even more than that jury selections. And
it happens all the damn time. You got person X say,
you know, I'm really important at work. I'm the head
cashier and blah, blah, blah. The judge says, no, I'm sorry.
You can figure that out. We need you for jury duty. No.
And the next person will practically literally say, I'm very

(30:19):
important at work. You see, I'm the head cashier. And
I have to, the judge will be like, oh, kill me.
Kill me.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Kill me.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
And, yeah, it just goes on all day.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I'll bet. I thought after he laid out, look, I'm
going to be really strict on this, all right? And
then he gave those examples you just mentioned. Don't count.
And still, almost everybody that went ahead of me said,
I have a hardship. Fun day. Fun day in the courtroom.
So Monday will be exciting. I got to go in
at 10 and we'll see if I make the cut
for any of those trials. Do my civic duty. Come on.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Starts it.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I need a better good morning. Let's try it again. Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
He knows how to run a courtroom. Son, you're an amateur.
All right. All right. Speaking of having a good time,
have you seen the video yet of Mom Donnie and
AOC yucking it up as the names of the victims
of 9-11?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh, yeah. That one might get a couple of views
around the country.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Wow. I would have thought, since they're pretty savvy political operators,
that they wouldn't have allowed that. visual to occur.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Well, and Mamdani's been practicing his sad face for a
long time for this ceremony. So.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, that's something. Yeah, it is. We'll finish strong next.
Stay here.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Do you work with any third parties as far as
this whistleblowing and coming out?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Not at all.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
This is entirely my own personal concerns about safety and
things that I've seen personally in conversations I've had.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
There's a reason Brett Baer asked that question.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, indeed. And then he asked David Sachs, who's one
of Trump's head guys, about that answer the next day.
Play 73B, Michael, would you? This was last night.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
And the clincher of this is that the Wall Street
Journal ran a story about his resignation tweet. And they
posted that story 18 minutes before the tweet itself got posted.
So obviously, he was working with the Wall Street Journal
on this story. So he's trying to portray himself as
just this organic, viral phenomenon. But the truth is that

(32:35):
this was a well-orchestrated media op. And it's designed to
scare the public about AI so that these NGOs can
implement their preferred approach to AI, which is a government takeover,
is to have very heavy-handed government regulation of AI.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I might have edited that a little bit differently
because right before where we picked it up, he mentioned
that this guy's Twitter account had no interaction. I mean,
it didn't exist. And nobody's followed him or anything. But
then as soon as he put that out, several big
NGOs said, that are into the regulate AI thing immediately

(33:14):
broadcasted out, retweeted it, quote-tweeted it, spread it around to
the media, that.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
But that still doesn't prove anything.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, except, why is he claiming, no, this is just
me organically?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I don't know why he would say that. That's a
good question. I don't know why he would say that.
But that last part... You can take that last part
out of it and replace it with, yeah, he orchestrated
this with lots of different people because he thinks it's
going to destroy mankind. So he's working with the Wall
Street Journal and other experts.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
And anybody he can get on board. Right. So if
you're tech savvy or very online, you've got to understand
the primary question for all of us is, will AI
kill us all? So you've got to specifically answer that one.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Hey, kids, it's that time again.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Final Thoughts!

Speaker 2 (33:58):
With Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the day and the week. Michelangelo,
our technical director, will lead the way. Michael, final thought. Yeah,
I'm driving my wife crazy with chat GPT.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I found a way to put hats and different outfits
on my cats, and I keep sending her these pictures,
and she's driving her nuts.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I put them behind a car, you know, action shots. Oh,
like driving? Yeah. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a
final thought. Katie?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Tomorrow's my mama's birthday, so happy birthday to my mama.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Awesome. Happy B-Day, Mrs. Katie's mom. Jack, do you have
a final thought for us?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I hope I explained myself. the way I meant to
at the beginning of the show. If you haven't heard it,
get the podcast. I am unhappy with the amount of
grief and sorrow on this 25th anniversary. I would like
more anger and resolve, less grief and sorrow.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah. I guess my final thought is what I
was talking about a lot when Jack was gone. Fundamentalist
Islam is as important and vital and dangerous today as
it was 25 years ago today. And we need to
be every bit as aware of it. It doesn't make
you a bigot. It makes you smart.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
So many people, thanks a little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com.
Pick up a Socialism Sucks and It Never Works t-shirt.
I'm wearing one right now. It's got Karl Marx on there.
It's fabulous. I want five of them, Hanson. I'm going
to wear them every day of the week. Drop us
a note. Mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Could I wear that to court? Probably can't wear political
messages to court.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
They'd prefer you didn't.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Well, they'd prefer you don't wear tank top and flip flops,
but they let them, I guess.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
True enough.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
We'll see you on Monday. God bless America.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I can hear you. I can hear you.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
The rest of the world hears you.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
And the.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
People who knocked these.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Buildings down will hear all of us soon. Armstrong and Getty.