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August 14, 2026 36 mins

The A&G Replay Hour 1 on Friday, August 14,2026 contains:

  • 60s commercials that haven't Aged Well
  • U of Michigan Consumer Index on Consumer-Economy
  • Ross Douthat & Law school Professor on Overweighting Youth Votes
  • Communism &The Useful Idiot Mandami

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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm Strong
and and He.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Armstrong and gay Strong Armstrong and Gaddy, except we're not
actually here. We're home. Oh, I hope you enjoy this
carefully curated Armstrong and Getty reply.

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Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh I'll give them today. Oh boy. That is from
a video that I was sent by an Lord listener.
Commercials from the sixties that have not aged well, and
I thought we needed to lighten the mood a little bit.
I've got a perfect example of a beautiful illustration of

(01:41):
why socialism will never ever work. But going to lighten
up on that at least for a minute. Meanwhile, more
commercials from the sixties that haven't aged twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Our first house nearly never got built. My wife was
so bent on helping the builder. Woman, I said, leave
that poor man alone and make us some coffe. Not
that kind you've been buying either instant Maxwell House coffee,
Red John good to the last drop, Maxwell House, the
instant that tastes like like coffee. Be a good little

(02:12):
Maxwell housewife and we'll be happy here for a long time.
Maxwell House Coffee, instant and ground.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I like calling her a woman. A woman, Be a
good little Maxwell housewife. Listen, woman, leave him alone, let
him work. What's wrong with that commercial? Vegas zag? I
hear you, Michael. I don't know if the rings were
too loud in the background, You idiot, Perhp you've been
making make some beas and coffee woman more from the

(02:41):
world of sexist sexist coffee.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Harvey, want anything special for your birthday?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Just a decent cup of coffee?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You're kidding, I'm serious, honey.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Your coffee is done drinkables, pretty harsh, well socier coffee.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
You know the girls down at the office.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Make better coffee on their wow.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
And he didn't even kiss me goodbye.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
You know, if I could just make a decent cup
of coffee, I.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Could relax, so relax.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Why don't you try instant Folgers taste good as fresh, perked.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Ay, great coffee.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
It's instant Folgers, doesn't it taste good as fresh, perked better.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That didn't those girls make at the office, honey. Their
coffee can't hold a candle to yours.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Instant folders taste good as fresh, perked trying.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know it's gonna throw you away like he used tissue.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
But this is decent coffee. I guess you can say,
good news. You've earned my love with a decent cup
of coffee. This is garbage.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
The girls down at the office are one hotter too,
make better coffee and younger.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
You know what's interesting about that. I remember that commercial.
I remember watching that as a kid. I remember that
as a kid, and in it not you know, because
the culture it didn't stand out to me is anything.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It was just yeah, I got the girls.

Speaker 8 (04:07):
Down to the office, make a better cup of coffee, honey.
I don't know what you do here. It's just it's undrinkable.
And HER's so upset that her husband is not pleased
with what she's making for him.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, and please one not be You need not be
a professor of literature to discern the theme your coffee's bad. Therefore,
I'm gonna compare you to the women at the office,
And I'm not gonna kiss you goodbye right withholding affection,
right exactly, and you've kind of lost the race. I'm

(04:38):
gonna go. I'm gonna get with the gals from the office. Hey,
they're hot, b they make good coffee. You're done speaking
of that sort of thing. This is a TAB commercial
from back in the day. It's filled with wholesomely sexy,
soft focusy imagery of a woman with kids and then

(04:59):
the husband there at one point and all and go on.
When you can't.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Be with.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
He is mind mine sticker.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
When you can't be with him, be in his mind,
be a mind sticker with a shape you can't forget.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Don't you want to have a good shame if he
wants to, with a good shame.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Shame with Tab can help you stay in his mind,
keeping your shape in shape hazard reward.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Oh yeah, have a good shame, have a tight high ass, or.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
He'll be gone with the girls at the office, like
the coffee Guard Gesu soda commercial.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Have a good shape.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I know it was so maudlin. I guess that's pretty funny.
You know that was uh, With all due disrespect to
the idiotic, toxic masculinity stuff you get from Marxists. I
mean back in the day that was absolutely a male
ad executive who thought women like soft music. Let's sire
this non threatening sounding woman singer to sing at the

(06:31):
women about having a good shape.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Well, what's interesting about that, because I actually remember that
commercial with the the girls down at the office make
a better cup of coffies.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
This is garbage. I didn't see that in real life.

Speaker 8 (06:48):
That wasn't my perception of the real world, whether because
of my parents or like anybody else I saw it.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's not like I thought that's the way the world worked.
So I don't know the ads were like really reflect
tip of the world I saw, right right. Yeah, I
mean you could certainly say, well, they just make the
point about coffee. But I mean, in any reasonably healthy relationship,
you'd say, you know, honey, I'm not loving this coffee.
What brand is this? What do you think of it? Yeah,

(07:15):
because maybe she likes I think it's pretty good. Huh,
I don't like it much. Yeah, maybe we should do
like I'll get my brand. No, you've got to imply
that you're going the leaf for the girls at the office.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
And oh think I'm gonna kiss you. I'm not gonna
kiss the lips of someone who made me that cup
of crap right there.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Especially when I got the hotties down at the office
with their delicious coffee. I'll see you. Maybe slams the door.
And by the way, you're shaping so hot either, Maybe
try a tab makes it a tab bubby. Oh my god,
Oh yeah, oh.

Speaker 9 (07:53):
My god, yeah, oh good, So honey, I can't believe
that ever existed. Oh, I know, it's so lame.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Be a mind sticker, right, what is that way to
invent a term? And the weird music that song is
giving me the willies. I want it swept from my memory.
I gotta get like PTSD's the treatment or something. Oh god,
it was musical crime. I don't remember anybody using that term.

(08:26):
What ship shape or what? Oh you could be in shape?
You want to get in shait feed at the bottom,
head at the top like a lot of people thanks
to tab right, it's oh my god, yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
That made the argument for the other side, unfortunately, But
like I said, I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I wasn't. My my perception as a kid wasn't that
like that was the way the world worked anymore than
like the other stuff. Some day.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
I didn't think the world worked the way it did
on Gilligan's Island either, So I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, right, right, right right. I'm trying to remember my
reaction to those sorts of ads. Oh, it's hard to
separate it from my my reaction. Right now? Can I
hear the one at the good shape? At least the
first part until they sing the good shape? I want
to hear, because that's so weird when.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
You can't be.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
When you can't be with him, be in his mind.
Be a mind sticker with a shape.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
You can't forget to have a good shape. I do
want to good shape.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know what.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
I can stay in his mind.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Keeping sugar sugar free. Oh tab is sugar free? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (10:05):
The cancer to diet coke. You'll have the cancer about
early eighties if you're drinking that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh boy, that is wild. Yeah, there are there are
reels and reels of those commercials.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
And the idea that I'm going to stick in his mind,
because if I'm hot enough, I'll stick in his mind.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
If I'm not, he ain't gonna be thinking of me.
Of me at all? Right, Like you're not best friends
and soulmates, and you know, keeps you just raising kids
together for that reason, it's experience, the struggles you've been through.
How's your ass? What does your ass look like? Brought
to you by tab? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how hot you

(10:44):
are if you keep serving me this garbage coffee? And
then you got your doctor's pitching cigarettes. Yeah, a classic
of the u of the the genre and the various
uh Cokeaine Dean riddled treatments of the early nineteenth century
and cough syrup with codeine and the rest of it.

(11:08):
I love it, love it, love it, love it. That
is wild.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
That tab song maybe the worst thing I've ever heard
in the department of music. And then the like the
choir in the background, the wind sticker. Yeah was that
that must have been a hot phrase for a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
I've never heard my ramcid bitter coffee made by your wife.
Not the girls down at the office. They got a
good shape and they make a great come on coffee.
That's why I kiss them go by before I leave work.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Not you, yag, you crabby hockey, crabby coffee singing with
a borrow? What that shape is?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
The armstrong and getting shared?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is makes you wonder what we're doing, Do we
really feel this lousy about the economy? University of Michigan
Consumer Confidence Consumer Sentiment Index much discussed. It's been going
on since the nineteen forties. The Michigan Survey of Consumers

(12:28):
is the poll for how Americans have felt about the
economy now for generation, and it's low. Right now.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
We don't feel good about the economy. More than more
than ever, We're despondent.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
A key survey of Americans consumers is scraping bottom, showing
they've never felt this lousy about the economy, even at
the height of the recessions or when the COVID pandemic
COVID pandemic raged. We were talking about this a couple
of weeks ago. What could possibly explain that they're so
anti Trump? Some people are a price of gas when

(13:03):
inflation is high. Nothing else, manners Uh, it's the survey itself.
According to a growing number of critics, including several economists,
they've pointed to methodology methodology changes in the University of
Michigan's Consumers element in AdEx as bugs in the machine,
saying they're skewing the results. Now the polling people are

(13:25):
saying no, low sentiment likely reflects a profound shift in
mood since COVID struck, according to the survey director, but
it shouldn't be too surprising. People felt differently about the world,
including the economy after the pandemic. It hit its lowest
mark in May, lowest ever of them. The low readings
they make the point in the journals seem at odds
with an economy that appears decent, it's not stellar. The

(13:47):
country's adding jobs, and consumers are continuing to spend despite
worries about inflation and affordability. And I would point out
increasing credit card and car loan defaults and the higher
and higher level of dead Maybe you shouldn't be spending that,
but anyway. In twenty twenty four Michigan, the University of

(14:10):
moved to conducting its surveys via the web rather than
via cell phone, a response to the problem the ongoing
problem everybody knows surveyor's face and getting anybody to answer
the damn phone because everybody's being spammed all the time.
So a couple of years ago they made that transition
to online polls, and some critics think that made the

(14:33):
sentiment index more downbeat, in part because other research has
shown that when people are surveyed online, for some reason,
they tend to be more negative than when they're speaking
to a human being. Twenty twenty four analysis a couple
of economists You've never heard of estimated that this survey
method methodology shift shaved about nine points off the Michigan

(14:57):
Sentiment Index nine points. Recent analysis from the Chicago Fed
also took issue with the survey switch.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
I think it's interesting that people are so much more
negative being online than if you're asked on the phone.
So sure, because of the algorithms feeding us depressing stuff constantly,
we've trained our brains since we go online to immediately

(15:26):
have a bad attitude.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Probably, I wonder, Or it could just be if there's
another human being, you don't want to appear too negative
and bitchy because it's not considered an attractive quality. I
don't know. There's also the fact, and this is undeniable,
that the skew in partisan attitudes is as big as

(15:51):
it's ever been. You ask a Republican right now, Republicans
control the White House, as if the White House runs
the economy. For God's sake, people shouldn't. But you ask Republicans,
they say, it's just freaking fine. You asked Democrats, They're like,
it's horrible. We talked about this.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
I talked about this last week coming out of fourth
of July, and I took in a ton of two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary Founding stuff and up with America
tweets and books and TV shows and speeches and all
the different sort of stuff, and I was feeling pretty raw,
raw about America and actually thought, Joe and I need
to be less negative.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're too negative. But I did want to push back
on all the ra ra with just.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
A little bit of the All of those things are
true structurally, historically, everything about the United States being great
and all that forced for good, et cetera, et cetera.
But this whole educating the young people to hate their
own country k through PhD is new and real and
is going to bear fruit for a long time to come.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh yes, I believe Reagan that we're never more than
a generation or two from losing our liberty or Jefferson
that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. Was it?
Jefferson said that he might as well have. If you
believe those things, and if you don't, you're an idiot. Yeah,
this is a serious, serious problem, as I'm always saying.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
And then you throw in a dose of online information
algorithm stuff that is all brand new to the world. Also,
I'm not as optimistic going forward as a lot of
the raw Ras speeches.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Armstrong, the Armstrong and Getty show.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Ross doubt that. If you know him of the New
York Times, he's been a columnist for a while. They're
conservative columnists. He got hired at the New York Times
when he is in his twenties.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Still he's a he's not your typical like mainstream media,
especially New York Times or Washington Post or whatever columnists.
He's seeing Roman Catholic, very religious, but he's not a
bomb chucker sort of like a conservative.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
He's like a I was going to describe him as earnest. Yeah, yeah,
very much so.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
And some of his religious books that I've read or
listened to him talk about are really really interesting and
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But anyway, he's leaving the New York Times. Barry Weiss
hired him over at sixty Minutes to try to balance
out their coverage. Good.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
I'm happy to see that, man. I saw some pushback
on that online last week. That was just oh yeah,
insane about this.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Religious nut job will have had his way, we'd be
living in a theocracy, being hired by Barry Weiss to
further blah blah blah blah blah. Well not only that,
but they're afraid that sixty minutes might become biased. I mean,
can you imagine. Oh, that's right, I'd forgotten he wrote
The Decadent Society. I loved that book, with a different
kind of view of what the word decadent means than

(18:56):
we usually use.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
And that's that's where we are culturally. But well, maybe
we'll talk about that at a different time.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But sorry, I'm making a note that is number eight
hundred and six on books I need to read back
to you.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
So, who is this nut We're about to hear Ross
talking to Oh lordie Jack.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So Ross does these interview podcasts, and this one happens
to be with a fellow by the name of Samuel Moyne,
who is the Kent Professor of Law and History at
Yale University. Well, he also serves as head of one
of the colleges within the University of Yale. He is

(19:35):
an academic super heavyweight and an important law school professor,
Why don't we just go ahead and play the audio,
then we will discuss You may drive off the road,
so prepare yourselves.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
overweighting the votes of younger people or a Saint.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Michaels For just a second, I've got to point out
this guy went to the same voice coach as the
guy with the worst voice in America, kind of that
Northeast intellectual, very effeminate, vocal fry e voice. Anyway, you
got to get past that to listen to his ideas well.

Speaker 8 (20:20):
And I know we're not getting to the content yet,
but he just talked about overweighting the votes of young
people like they are the votes would count more if
you're young.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
That is his premise. That's correct. Listen to this, would you.

Speaker 10 (20:32):
I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
overweighting the the votes of younger people, or assigning the
youngest eligible voters proxy votes for the unrepresented children of
our country.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
So those are ed, why not assign them to those
children's parents. Well, because there's there's a divergence of interest
between parents and children, and I think it's likelier that
young people not people who are raising families will have
the best insight into the interests of children, whereas if

(21:08):
you were awarded five I think it's absurd to imagine
that a twenty four year old recent college graduate has
a better assessment of the interests of my own children
than I do. And I say this with all due
respect to twenty four year old recent college graduates of
whom I hope to be the parent of in nine
years or so. I think parents generally confuse the interests

(21:33):
of their family with the interests of their children, and
part of our goal, I think is parents, but also
as a society, is trying to make sure that children
aren't the hostages of their parents as much as we
rely on parents to raise them.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, there's a sentence for you. Wow, there's a sentence
for you.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
We don't want children to have to be the hostages
of their parents.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Right in that children have a better grasp of their
needs and self interest than their parents do. Therefore, we
should give the youngest people more votes. Is there any
society like you get two votes because you're voting for

(22:19):
the children who can't vote as a nineteen year old.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
Is there any society in the history of planet Earth.
That has ever thought that. I mean, you know, you
picture Native Americans and elders and Asian no f No,
I did like what he said.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Often the desires of the children diverge from those of
her parents. Oh really, I hadn't noticed that as a parent.
Did he say desires or well, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
but what your kids want?

Speaker 8 (22:48):
Oh really, you want to get to Disneyland and eat
cake all day?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I hadn't noticed that that diverges from my idea of
your best interest. There are some ideas so insane only
an intellectual could have them. There is a Yale law
professor saying that young people should get extra votes. He
is and including children. Children are the hostage of the family.

(23:16):
Our education system, I mean, I feel like we say
this every day, but it needs to be said with
like exclamation marks and underlined and highlighted and circled. Our
education system is so out of control. Yes it is.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
This guy is one of the most influential law voices
on Earth, oh, the most prestigious law universities.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
In the country on the planet. And he believes the
craziest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, he is something close
to I doubt he is textbook mentally ill. There are
probably some plain spoken, common sensical descriptions for this somebody
who's gotten so swept away by their ideology they're now

(24:00):
completely unmoored from reality.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
Well, getting back to his first sentence, he wants to
overweight the votes of young people, so the you know,
two young people could outvote three older people or something,
because they they're smart, they're wiser than us.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And indeed, children children should be in charge of children's
lives because they know better than their parents. You know,
how long was that. Let's listen to that again. There's
a lot there, There is a lot there. Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (24:32):
I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
overweighting the votes of younger people, or assigning the youngest
eligible voters proxy votes for the unrepresented children of our country.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
So those are edgy, why not assign them to those
children's parents. Well, because there's a divergence of interest between
parents and children, and I think it's likelier that young people,
not people who are raising families, will have the best
insight into the interests of children, whereas if you were

(25:08):
awarded five I think it's absurd to imagine that a
twenty four year old recent college graduate has a better
assessment of the interests of my own children than I do.
And I say this with all due respect to twenty
four year old recent college graduates of whom I hope
to be the parent of in nine years or so.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
I think parents generally confuse the interests of their family
with the interests of their children, and part of our goal,
I think is parents, but also as a society, is
trying to make sure that children aren't the hostages of
their parents as much as we rely on parents to
raise them.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Actually makes the witticism that was partially cut off saying,
in my experience the parents are more the hostage of
the children, which is a funny thing to say. The
learned professor has no children as far as I can tell,
no way that Well. I know it's surprising, isn't it,
given his incredible insight. You know, I gotta admit I'm

(26:14):
ed an r uf in kidding me spot mentally, emotionally
right now. I can't believe this guy is gainfully employed,
much less employed is one of the head guys at
Yales Law School. Well, I came across astonished. I came
across that clip A bunch of different places being retweeted
by people I like, like Joanah Goldberg said, congratulations on

(26:36):
Ross and Ross for engaging him in the conversation. I
think I would have just hit him in the head
with the microphone. It's like, you are a numbnous. But
so that thing at the end distracted me. We don't
want kids to be the hostages of their parents. But
that sentence before that with the the kids.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Understand their interests better than the people in charge of
the family or whatever it is. But what does that
even mean. So that's that thing you always talk about
with college professors who think the nuclear family is a negative.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
So it's an it's an organ of oppression. So most
of us the family unit is, you know, that's kind
of the highest everything. And he thinks that gets in
the way of the best interests of the kids, which
is so weird. Yeah, you know, I could parse more

(27:34):
of what he said, but at this point I feel
like I'm listening to the rantings of a mad man.
In my uh, my patience is limited.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
Well, I wouldn't be bothered really at all if he's
just I don't know, he's just some online guy that
you know, got a PhD.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
In something weird. But he's one of the most important
law schools in the world, the number one law school
in America. It's our nobody like him should be able
to be running anything ever teaching kids, and he's at

(28:10):
like the highest level of it. Look, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna tell you to say I told you so.
But if any of you thought old Joe Ketty ranting
about how completely insane our university systems have become, you
know what a writ and apology would be great. God,
that's crazy. I know it's crazy.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
Where did we have the common sense conversation? Now or
two kind of fits in with that.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So this is a guy that's got so much education
that he ignores what he sees around him, because I
would think that he would look around him and realize
that twenty one year olds often have really distorted wrong
views of the world because of their lack of life experience,
not their fault. I did too.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Whereas somebody who's fifty years old and has had multiple
jobs and raised kids and paid taxes all this sort
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There's all kinds of insights that a twenty year old
does not have. For instance, seen every scam political and
otherwise that's come down the pike and recognizes them and thinks, oh,
I know that one. No, a twenty something, you know,
Ross does that at one point said with all due
respect to twenty four year old recent college graduates, And
I thought that was one of the most ironic uses

(29:22):
of that phrase I've ever heard. How much respect is
do them exactly?

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Not?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Anyway? Yeah, you know, one of the reasons I soured
on academia, and it had some role in me not
going to law school, was that I realized in academia,
you you spin a line of bull crap, and sometimes
it's it's truth and exploring science or coming to great

(29:48):
you know, you know, realizations about humankind, but often it's
just crap. And your career depends on you reinforcing your
bull crap and making it more complicated, writing books about it,
selling it to other people, convincing your undergrads, having grad
assistants who help you perpetuate your bull crap, which when

(30:09):
if it is exposed to the real world for like
a day, it would wither because it's Crap's crap, it's crap,
It's crap. That's my point precisely. And this guy has
spun one of the more ridiculous lines of bull crap
I've ever heard in my life. He has attained great
heights of academia. People probably tremble in his presence. He's

(30:33):
so important and he is completely divorced from reality.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
Oh, I'm sure if he gives you the nod for
a job or a position in another college or something
like that, it's among the most important things that could
happen to you.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, if he writes your letter of recommendation as you're
applying for law jobs, as my daughter is right now, Yeah, yeah, Okay,
here's everybody do an experiment this week and let your
kids be in charge of everything, what you do, where
you go, how you spend your money, what you eat.
Then see how it goes. They know better than you do.
You presser, get out of their way, are strong.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
The armstrong, and getting shot.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
A useful idiot is a term that most people believe
Vladimir Lenin coined. It has to do with the folks
who enable the cause of say, communism, without fully understanding
the goals, and they're ruthlessly used by the leaders who
and then discard them when the goals are achieved. Once
you get power. The last thing you want around you

(31:35):
is a bunch of revolutionaries, because if they don't like
what you're doing, they will kill you and take over,
which is why every communist revolution in history Cuba at al.
As soon as power is consolidated, that's when the executions start,
and often it's the person closest to the number one
who get executed first. Anyway, I mean set the table
with that, Zora and Mumdani. I've been wondering a little bit.

(31:59):
I've called him an Islamunist because he's clearly an Islamist
at heart, but also a dedicated communist, and which is
his real goal, because the Red Green Alliance won, wins
and the other guys get executed. And here's a hint,
Zoram Mundani just sat down for a productive meeting quote

(32:20):
unquote with MAS New York, MAS Brooklyn and MAS Youth
Center aka the Muslim Brotherhood operating in America. This is
the same Muslim American society, the MAS that produced and
platforms Abdullah Akl within our lifetime later who stood on
October seventh of twenty twenty five, the second anniversary of

(32:42):
the Slaughter in Israel in Manhattan, declared that they didn't
act enough and will show up stronger than the first
October seventh. Remember, this invitation to a jihadi organization steeped
in Muslim brotherhood and open anti Jewish activism comes days
after a Jewish man was stabbed on the Upper West
Side by an attacker screaming Alua Akbar. This is the

(33:03):
same Akl who led crowds chanting for Hamas to strike
strike Tel Aviv, who celebrates Intafada, and who operates openly
under the Muslim American Society banner while spewing open contempt
for Jews and non Muslims. MAS is not some benign
community group. They're founded in ninety three, is the public
American arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. And then they go

(33:26):
into a great deal of detail about their very impressive
hardcore jihadi bona fides and financing in the rest. Now, Mamdani,
who before taking office regularly showed up at wol rallies
that's within our lifetime and led its chances hosting the
very network that incubates this hatred and their wish list

(33:46):
is about what you'd think among Islamists.

Speaker 8 (33:50):
So you think that he's more of a fundamentalist Islam
guy than a communist, I suspect. So yeah, yeah, heck
of a thing that you can slip that in. You
can get elected being a communist because they're so friendly
to that right now, that you can slip in your Islam.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, they're much better at making social economic arguments that
young college graduates fall for. And and again I could,
I could tell you the specific statistics, but take my
word for this. His core of support and like almost
all of it, not quite, but both of it is
college graduates who are not in the first couple of

(34:34):
quintiles of earning. It's disappointed college graduates. Downwardly mobile is
the hot term for this crowd, right, and they tend
to cluster in hot urban areas like New York City.
But to your question, though, about is he in his
heart as is Lo, mister a communist. I'm searching my

(34:57):
memory banks for examples of serious, serious Muslims who truly
embrace communism and mean it, and I'm not coming up
with much because they always embrace Islam than in Sharia
and and a what do you call it? When the

(35:20):
religion is in charge that system, Whereas I can picture
plenty of Islamists who pretend to be communists.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
Now, there's a lot of a lot of these Islamist
states were friendly with the Soviet Union back in the day,
but that was all just alignment against the United States
the West. Their ideologies didn't have to match up. You
know more about the Bolshevik Revolution than I did. Did
the Bolsheviks embrace some of the Muslims in the southern
parts of the Soviet area? I can't think of hardcore

(35:55):
communists who seriously, yeah, I think really interesting if that
turns out to be true.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
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