July 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of the Monday July 29, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- A Jazz Song That Touches Divorced Dads...
- Going to the Club...
- Mellencamp vs. Prine...
- Father's Day vs Gay Pride & an MLB player's story about his dad.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And Getty and He Armstrong and yet Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And this is the Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our
podcast One More Thing, Get It wherever you like to
get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Kadi or or anybody can answer this question. Do you
know who Keith Jarrett is? M M, I know the name,
which is where I was about a week ago. Okay,
so I'm Jarrett. I like all kinds of music, like
there is on a song by song basis. There is
no genre I don't like really except for metal. I
just have never been able to get in any metal.
(00:53):
But other than that, every genre there are songs I
like and songs I don't what songs I like. And
so I'm like really into learning to play the piano
the last couple of years, and I watch a lot
of videos about piano, and some guys I like were
doing an all time Greatest Pianist's list the other day.
Who are the goats? Are you familiar that people now
refer to goats as plural? It's a plural, It's not,
(01:15):
it's not. No no, No, that doesn't work at all. Sorry,
you're wrong. Apparently I'm wrong too. I've just become aware
enough times. Now you name goats, these three are the goats,
the greatest of all time. Yeah, I don't get it,
but that's the way people refer to it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I get what honestly, although that is silly, you know,
grammatically speaking, I much prefer that who's the greatest guitar player?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's an idiotic question. So now you say, if you
want to name a bunch of people are on the
very top tier, great' that's what people mean when they
say go now anyway, So one of the goats was
this Keith Jarrett piano player who I had heard of,
but like I'd tried to listen to before and couldn't
get into. Maybe I just wasn't ready for it yet.
Sometimes that is with music, you're not ready for it
yet for a variety of reasons, fairly complex.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Is this like is this a new artist or is
this no?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, he's still alive. He doesn't perform anymore because he
had some strokes and can't play the piano anymore, but
he is considered among jazz musicians like one of the
top Rick Bato, the music producer, has got a YouTube
video that millions of people have watched an interview with
Keith Jarrett and calls him one of the great music
composers of the last century at least. I mean, he's
(02:29):
just an absolute genius, and a genius in the fact
that most of his famous albums are completely improvised. That
was his thing. He walks into a stadium and the
feel of the piano, the crowd, the room, the day,
he just makes it up, you know, like four songs,
oh he plays. And he even says that like if
(02:52):
he has an idea, he discounts it. He doesn't want
to have an idea before he goes out there. He
just wants to feel at as he goes. And it's
just okay, you to hear some if that were me,
So go ahead and start the song, Michael, because I'm
going to talk about it over this. And so one
of the recommendations I was looking up to some of
the best Keith Jarrett stuff, and one of the recommendations
(03:13):
was this song. It's from live Bordeaux concert Live. Most
of his famous stuff is live, Like I said, all improvised,
crank it up enough that we can hear. This is
part one, the singing starts. There's no singing, it's instrumental.
This is part three. There's just four parts. Like I said,
he's improvising it. So he just does four songs ranging
(03:33):
from four to fifteen minutes long, just however long he's
feeling it. Crowd goes wild. If the crowd reacts poorly,
he yells at them. He's very touchy artists sort of person. Yeah,
where do you get off a drum solo? There's no
drum solo, and you good crank it up, because this
is what's interesting. So I became obsessed with this song
on Sundays after the Grammy's. Interestingly enough, I became aware
(03:57):
of it and I listened to the whole thing while
I was walking the dog, and it hit me in
a way like I don't remember the last time a
song has hit me like this. And I probably listened
to it ten times that night, including in bed with
my headphones on while I was falling asleep, maybe ten
times the next day in the rain. I send it
to some people. It's just it affected me in so
much in such a way. Now I'm getting to the
(04:19):
punchline that you're gonna find quite hilarious. Oh boy on
this song affecting me so much. It's like, man, this
isn't really like even my sort of thing. I mean,
it's just so and it gets slightly more complex. I mean,
it's just very pretty sweet piano music. It's four minutes here,
(04:41):
let me read this. So I started doing a little
research on famous Keith Jarrett albums, and this album has
four and five stars from all your big jazz magazines
and top reviewers of all time and that sort of stuff,
and particularly this song. Here's one of the reviews for
this song from McSweeney's. It's one of the most respected
(05:03):
jazz critics of all time. A note for divorced Dads
on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three, And I thought,
what what one would have a difficult time finding a
musical composition that better suits the emotions of a recently
divorced dad than Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three. If
(05:26):
I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking for
coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford f one fifty or something,
I would stop him and play it for him. It
gives me goosebumps. Actually reading this. This is free key. Yeah,
it's a guy who drove a twenty fifteen Ford f
one fifty. The entirety of the piece is four minutes
and four seconds. I cannot think of a reason why
(05:46):
a recently divorced dad couldn't find that kind of time.
Once the divorce, dad and I had an understanding we
would venture into the composition. It begins with the stable
rolling chords that gently rooted the piece, drawing up imagery
of a young couple holding hands in a tall grass.
They're one end of the is zeygeite of relationship. And
it goes on and on like this, through the whole relationship,
(06:09):
falling in love, being in love, deciding to have kids,
having kids, it becoming difficult, and falling apart, the divorce happening,
you trying to raise your kids on your own. At
the end of this song, and then he ends actually
with now go pick up your kid from karate practice.
Now this is freaking me out. Turn it out just
a little bit, Michael, because nowhere I think we're into
the you realize you're divorced and you're raising your kids
(06:33):
on your own part. I yes, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Now did Keith jareded say any of this or this
is just the reviewer figuring quote unquote figuring this out.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is one of the leanies. This is one of
the most famous jazz reviewers of all time. That's the
way he interpreted this music and me as a recently
divorced dad laying in bed listening to it ten times
in a row because it touched me in a way
I can't remember music ever touching me. What the hell
is that is weird? Well, it is weird. Holy smuff,
(07:04):
I know, isn't that strange?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, hey, you got anything for angsty empty nesters?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I like to play golf? Yeah, yeah, Wow, Wow, what
a trip. Isn't that strange? Though?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean that's that's beyond strange. That's uh does.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
He ex well?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I guess he kind of sort of explains why, but
not no way that I would find terribly compelling if
I came across it anywhere else in any other context.
I think, well, wait a minute, there are a lot of,
you know, trips people go through in their lives that
maybe start like super exciting, promising, then get kind of rocky,
and then you've just got to make the most of it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And move on. I mean, there are a lot of
things like that, but here we are, well, there are
also a million pieces of music that are kind of
sweet but modling. But you know, whatever, the fact that
this well known jazz critic picks out one of the
most respected jazz pieces in history and assigns this particular
(08:09):
meaning to it, and then I, not knowing that it'd
be one thing if i'd read that first, but not
knowing that at all, get pulled into this song.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
In a way.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I don't remember the last time I've been pulled into
a song where I listened to it that many times
in a row, if ever, in my life.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's amazing how different music works. That's how you felt
with that, And I felt like I was on hold
waiting for a prescription from like cvsten right.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I agree in any other context I would have been
the same way, and I probably would have listened to
like a minute thought for me and gone to the
next song. And it makes me question my understanding of
you know, abstract art and stuff like that. When I
look at a piece of art in a walm thing,
she's my three year old could do that. That doesn't mean
anything because that music, see I'm into that normally, that
(08:56):
kind of music, well, I agree with Hitler. It's a
ruse half drig gardisent is here. But that kind of
music usually, I think is just kind of meandering, and
I understand some people like it, but it's not really
my bag. The fact that it had such a specific
the fact that he even mentions aes Okay, so here's
(09:17):
here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Obviously we're we're sitting here, you know, rolling around in
the wonder of it. We need to know more about this,
this guru, this sage, this omniscient McSweeney person.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
What the hell's going on there? What sort of psychic
witchery is this is that? Does he have that ability
with all songs in art? That painting over there, If
your cat just got hit by a car, that's the
perfect painting.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
As you're sitting there thinking of little Fluffy and admiring
the brushstrokes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's just freaky.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Man, Well, let me want to go find all of
my favorite songs and read the reviews on it, just
to see lines up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One would have a difficult time finding a musical composition
it better suits the emotions of a recently divorced dad.
If I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking
for coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford F one fifteen,
and you're a coffee addict. Yeah, I have done that
as a I would stopping a year wrong the hack
(10:17):
and he left out going to get McDonald's on the
way home. Yeah, that's true. That doesn't know anything. It
was freaky man, laying in bed listening to it in
my headphones in the dark, moved by music in a
way maybe I never have been in my life weird. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I've been trying to think if there's anything that's been
anything similar, any song or music similar to that, And
all I can come up with is is I discovered
an album several years after it was out by the
band from Indiana called Houndmouth, and the song is my
Cousin Greg, and the opening line is my cousin Greg
is a greedy son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I'm just I'm not sure what McSweeney would say
about that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I have no cousin Greg who's a greedy son of
a bitch, so obviously it's not that close a fit.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's freaky, So I don't know what I'm wing.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You gotta look more into this McSweeney dude because he's
a witch.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or followed me around. Yeah, that'd be my guess. Although
he wrote this years ago. Well right, that's weird, man.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's why I brought it to the podcast. I just
thought this is too effing freaky. Next time, I'm gonna
show a slow saxophone solo that expresses the feelings of
a man is broken TV and no extended warranty.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Miss Kat's wearing football jerseys.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
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Speaker 3 (11:58):
According to a new pole, gen Z doesn't want to
go out to the bars and scream at each other
over loud music or fifty thousand other people. It seems
like sometimes having a conversations, they'd rather sit around at
home and have a drink or two with their friends.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Why did it take until gen Z to figure that out?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't know, and I don't want to like over.
I don't want to dominate the podcast because I'm a
team player. But I have never even when I was
young and slightly hip, and somewhat popular.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I didn't want to go to bars and yell at
each other. You'll be crazy. You'll have to weigh in
on this, Katie, because but my experience is I was
out at the bars a lots of times. We're like
at a quiet kind of bar and everybody talking. I say,
it's eleven o'clock. We got to go over to the where,
And I think, why, we're having a perfectly good time here.
We can hear each other, we're sitting. We're gonna go
(12:56):
to some place where we're like shuffled around shoulder to show,
screaming at the top of our lungs. Are not talking?
Why go ahead, Katie.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Well, no, I've I went through the phase of every
weekend at the bars and all of that, and I
did too for twenty two years. So hid it for
twenty two years, but it was it was a solid seven,
you know, and it got exhausting. Now when I go
out to the bars, it's more of that environment where
(13:24):
it's just chilling. It's very quiet, some music, but there's
not a lot of yelling.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, I never never. When I was when I was
twenty years old, the drinking age was eighteen. When I
went to college. When I was twenty years old. I
had no interest in going to the big throbbing club
and yelling at the person next to me, thank God
for you.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
To retrain from saying big throbbing club if you can. Yeah,
I've just I've never had that in me. This golf
club where I play golf mostly opened up a new
bar and it's like quiet and classy and set up
for like conversation areas. We're four to six people can
sit and chat and have a drink and all In
(14:03):
and Judy and I went there and we were like,
oh my god, this is perfect. And then we ran
into some friends of ours who really aren't great people.
But the dude was like, oh my god, did they
waste that space?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I couldn't hate it off. Where are the TVs with
the play by play going? And the energy? We want energy?
I want no energy, less energy. I bring no energy
and I want none thrust upon me. Yeah, and same
way with restaurants. I hope gen Z kills loud restaurants.
You know, whenever it was in the mid nineties that
(14:36):
they decided to take all the baffling out of the
ceilings and have it be open brick and pipes, so
you can get as much sound reverberating as possible. So
it's just deafeningly loud, and every clink of every glass
and fork and the whole place echoes in your head.
Who wants that?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Where it's just acceptable to be obnoxiously loud at the table,
Like I remember when being in a restaurant, you know,
you had manners and you had to be kind of
quiet and polite, and then you've got tables next to
you just screaming and having a pull blown party and
it's normal now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well, speaking of being a team player, obviously we're a
group of at least somewhat grumpy, somewhat introverted people. But
some people obviously are energized by that. They like it.
It gives them more energy. As they say about extroverts
and introverts. Being around people energizes extroverts and it drains
(15:28):
the energy from introverts, and it must be that way
with like loud bars and restaurants and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, but are you arguing that the percentage of people
that are introverts is higher among gen Z or do
they just wise up to why are we standing in
this super loud bar.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Interesting question. Good Lord, I can't come close to answering it.
Here are the stats. Let's see, bubba. The new survey
finds the two and three gen Z wine enthusiasts. So
this is people who'd rather drink wine for what that's
worth two out of three out for the comfort of
their homes when it comes to drinking, specifically home pull
of two thousand American adults between twenty one and twenty
(16:03):
six found those who enjoy wine, only twenty three percent
would choose to go to a bar, and only eighteen
percent would opt for drinking at some sort of live event.
For gen z wind enthusiasts, having a glass as an
opportunity to be social as hanging out with friends tops
the list of activities they prefer to partake in while drinking.
But they'd really rather do it at home than out anywhere.
(16:29):
Maybe because the cost of living so high for young
people and they're trying to save money. That was the
other thing, because, especially because I was pretty poor when
I was young, is I could afford like a beer
if we went out, I could.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Have a couple at home. End of discussion, Yeah, that
wasn't the right kind of bar. I liked the more
like the more like people in boots bars because that's
where I could sidle up to a table to girls
and they wouldn't notice that I was drinking all their
picture beer because I couldn't afford to buy beer. And well,
girls oftentimes get pictures of beer. They aren't gonna drink them.
(17:04):
They're not really drinkers. They just they needed to have
it sitting there. It's kind of a prop. I'll take
care of that for you. Wow, this is a rarity.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
The judges reporting a ten on resourcefulness, a ten on creepiness,
and a ten on alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's a rare triple ten. A perfect scar Jack, Armstrong
and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
So we're about to play a clip of John Cougar
Mellencamp talking at a concert. Is this one of the
concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan
or is he on his own here? On his own here?
So he's touring with I know he's gonna be I
think at the Hollywood Bowl in La which I'd like
to see Melonhead, Willie Nelson and the ancient Bob Dylan.
(18:04):
Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared to Willie Nelson,
who just turned ninety. All right, it's got to be
something when he sings. I was just reading a set
list on these concerts, and Willie sings among these classics.
Funny how time slips away? Did it slip away? You've
been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away.
Something happened to you when you were thirty. Eh, it
was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But
(18:30):
I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not. Really.
It's pretty much the songs you expect. Melonhead sings, pink
houses and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder
why he's touring.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
A couple of years ago, he said he had no
interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't particularly want
to hear new music or new versions of old songs,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
He had no interest in being a jukebox. He did
get a tooth knocked out by his kid, like a
year or so ago. Did that cause him any financial difficulties?
He and his son got fistfight. I don't imagine he
can afford basic dentistry. But I don't know. I have
no idea of his financial wherewithal. Why is will he
doing it? That's just what he does.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't think he can imagine any other life, right,
And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the
world would they play more shows, much less launch a
giant tour?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, I think Willie, that's what they do. Will he's
paying off his tax debts, right, I don't know if
he still has that. But that story was thirty years ago, Michael.
But he also he travels with his sons. I've watched
some of the videos from the bus and his kids
are like sixty so, but he travels with the sons
who are in the band too, So it's probably probably
a pretty good time. I mean, what would be better
than that? Really? Actually, I can't think of anything that
(19:43):
would be better than that. So, and then Bob Dylan.
I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeh, he is exactly.
He doesn't need the money or the acclaim or the
Maybe he likes hotels, I don't know. But John Cougar
is on stage for a while, and do we need
to know anything else about that. No, he starts, he's
(20:05):
just talking to the crowd. Okay, here we go, and
she went.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It's just like he ready to be a smart like
when I'm talking to Jesus. And then I got it
real quiet, why do you think I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Any Hey, Joe, find.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
This guy and then they see him after the show.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Anyway, before I was salutely interrupted, guys, I can stop
this show right now.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I'm just doing.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Since you've been so wonderful, I'm gonna cut about ten
songs out of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Here gonna got then.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I get it. Jack so a tape?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Did he actually leave?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And he actually left? It's not cool.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Don't let an a hole and the show? So you
heard that the crowd was entirely on your side.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One guy. So he's into a story. Some guy play
some music, which is hurtful if you're telling a story
that you think is either funny or important or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Right, and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But yeah, I think the rest of the crowd was
at least willing to listen to your story, if not
enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed
at the joke and everything. It was just fine, and.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Some of them even went ah hey at the guy who.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Interrupted him, so a lot of people did. Yeah. So
then he plays like six bars of Jack and die
and leave. Wow. Yeah, he's old and bitter. I enough
time for that. I have thought about this a lot.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I uh.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So on Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the
TV show he had in the same week. I think
John Mellencamp and John Prine. If you don't know joem Prine,
he was a very old singer songwriter who never had
commercial success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by
(22:30):
people who like music anyway. He died COVID but had
them on both that week. So they're both super old
and at the end of their careers. And it struck
me how John Prine had what I hope I can
have when I'm old, but I don't think I can
because I don't even have it now. He just had.
He just had like a rye. This is kind of funny,
isn't it, view of getting older? I mean, this is
(22:53):
almost amusing what this is like, the health problems and
the this and the that, and the kids and the
marriage and just the way. The songs were like that too,
but John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter it went by
too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But
just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty,
(23:15):
you know, that sort of thing. And I thought those
are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do
with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You
either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and
marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really
bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I just thought that was interesting, and I say,
heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well,
let me start with this. Was playing golf the other
day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend
talked about him a little bit. One of the most
cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in
(23:56):
the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just
made like that, and it's an amazing blessing. And I
commented to my buddy, who also has a more than
one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids knows
you come out of the womb like that or you don't.
I've always said, and this number is pulled out of
(24:16):
my imagination, that you got maybe about fifteen twenty percent
around the edges. You can push yourself in this way
or push yourself in that way, but you are who
you are.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his
old age?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Maybe? I don't know. I don't know either. You're I
think you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go
fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more
cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference
in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just
saying my buddy's name is Dan. I was born annoyed.
I'm never going to be Dan right, and I love
(25:01):
the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my
acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him,
and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know,
and I try, I've tried to be honest about this
with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute
our good qualities to choice, and our bad qualities to genetics.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I got a strength of character, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, all the good things about me are because I
chose to be that way and I.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Worked hard to be that right, right, I gotta admit
when I when I was taking in the two different
attitudes about growing over and your and your your best
days being behind you, I related to the emotions of
John Mellencamp a lot more than John Brown. I'd like
to be like John Bryant, but I feel in my head,
in my heart more like John Mellencamp for whatever reason,
(25:54):
because I think I'm born that way I was, which
is why I am.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And then there's the question of genetics, which is one
of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics,
but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Try to end up with a half cat half dog
sort of situation. Is that what that is? Yeah, that's
right exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you
have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or
you run into them, that those switches might be flipped.
But if you don't go through those things, they won't
be If your environment is you have good nutrition, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It'll never manifest itself itself.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It's not like the entirety of who you are is
determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays
a role too, in various ways. But you know, we're
in the early days of really understanding that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I just remember. So they both sang songs that week,
and John Prime's song at that time, this is the
last album before he died. I think it was when
I Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there
something about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the
tilted whirl, I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long.
It's it's like looking back on the best parts of
your life and wanting to relive them, or getting to
smoke cigarette again. And John John Couger had a line
(27:12):
in his song and all your best efforts don't amount
to anything anymore. And I thought, wow, that's just such
two different views of where you are at the end
of your career. And one of you is happy and
one of you is miserable. But like you said, maybe
you can't control that.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's interesting acceptance.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Is that how much of that is inborn, your capacity
to just accept your life and it's reality.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm going to be a really bitter old person. I
think I'm pretty bitter younger. Yeah, well I can see
that I will be quite self deprecating, but a bitter
old person.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
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Speaker 2 (28:02):
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Speaker 3 (28:09):
Fathers get a day, but we get a month of
alphabet soup.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I like this. The alternate people, what. I don't think
that's what the society is this. I don't think that's
the point of Pride Month.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And that's so it's all due respect to my my
gay friends who are uniformly with the meme I saw
the other day.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
LGB is all we need. The rest is not us well,
and it's not just a month, as you know, there
are a whole bunch of other weeks and days around
the same theme throughout the years, So it's not just
a month and a year.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, but fathers get a day. And the reason that's
popped into my mind is we have some kind of
father's day related stuff, and you know, maybe it would
have been better then because fathers only get one. Then
you ought to shut up about the importance of fathers.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Hey, you weren't here on Friday when Katie and I
and Michael had the discussion that we've had for many
years of looking for a Father's Day card and trying
to find one that's not a joke about flatulence or
drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's Day cards are all
you know, there are some joke Mother's Day cards, but
there's tons of how important and valued and crucial mothers are.
(29:26):
Dad's Day cards are all jokes about.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true. So anyway,
why would be we be in the least hesitant to
continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that sort of thing.
Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan cass Casas. He's a
Boston Red Sox player telling a story about his dad.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young,
I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still,
I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and
get out there and get some son right right, And you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Know, I get out one day.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
And I come back to the dug out crying, pissed.
And you know, that's that's what a six year old does.
He sits on the bench and he cries and he
doesn't want to go out there when you know.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
His team's playing defense.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So my dad, you know, being the dad that he
is trying to teach me the lessons that he did
in his own special way, came into the dugout. He
actually grabbed me by my shirt, dragged me to the line,
and Looney Tunes style kicked me out onto the field
and actually had one of my best friends that I
went to high school with later he ended up playing
pro ball. His mom actually called child Services on my
(30:34):
dad at the field. No, no, no, for real, there's
no joke at the field. I see my dad go
away in the cop car, gets arrested. Send the nice
of joke here. But that day, that day, my dad
taught me a super valuable lesson that not a lot
of people know. And it's that I had a responsibility
to my teammates, I had a responsibility to my coaches,
to the parents that showed up that day, all the
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fans who were at that Little league game. Whatever it
may be to go out there and give my best effort,
no matter how I was feeling on the bench, no
matter what I was going through that day or whatever
little hardship that I was feeling when I got out,
that I still apply every single time, because sometimes I
just want to sit down on this bench after I
get out and I want to weave and I want
to cry. But that's that's not how baseball is. So yeah,
(31:17):
I love my dad to death. I wouldn't have this
opportunity without him. But yeah, funny little excerpt that's about
That's that's the type of my dad is.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So that's true that I like the Looney Tooth reference.
It is an amazing story. That took a turn though.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
She called CPS and they actually spent the night in jail.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Wow, did not see that coming.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, that is a good story. Also, like the fact
that he's six and he said the reason he was
playing was to burn calories and to get some sun.
I never thought about that when I was six, And
I better work off this pop tart. Cool.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Wow, that second shot with Chip Cookie was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that
you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the
roles overlap.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But when little Johnny skins his.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Knee, Mom is, oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like,
you'll be fine, You'll be great, and that whole And
I remember my dad was my baseball coach a lot too,
and he would come out to the mound when I
was pitching. And I've said this, told this story before too.
He'd say get this guy out or I'm gonna pull you.
And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus
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me and to say, you know, you have a job
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Here is what it is. I'm not out of here.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay,
because telling you go do it is telling you everything's
gonna be okay, telling you ay, you're fine, go run
and play. It's a empowering message to look at me
a man to man, even as like a fifteen year old,
(33:08):
and say focus, get this guy out.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That's it. That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say,
oh yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Plus, you know, as I've said before, I was like, you,
damn right, I'm getting this guy out.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what
coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Now, it can cross the line into being an a
hole if you're a bad coach, but it was a
very good coach.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't know. Anxiety. It's going to cause anxiety.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This is reminding me of a story my dad told me.
He played football in high school and my grandfather, his
dad was a surgeon, and my dad took a cleat
to the shin during a game and my granddad sewed
him up in the in the team team locker room
and then said get your ass back out there.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And this was during the Civil War. Yeah, pretty much
as well, Ben, mid sixties.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup
for clip twelve?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
No, this is just where we're headed if this woke
crap continues.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just
wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if
you consent to it. Of course I don't. I don't consent. Well,
I was thinking maybe in an hour or so, if
you're up to it, Me and your other non gender
specific parent can sit in the living room and breathe
for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you. Of course,
you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered by that
or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know what to
(34:40):
feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey, Oh
my god, did you just call me honey?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh my god?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this.
I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well,
maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to
live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me,
because my feelings are more important than all of our
physical well beings. O. Well, I'm gonna go into the
living room and cry I love you. You don't have
to say it back. I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Wow parent and child in the year twenty sixty. That's
pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended.
I don't know what I'm feeling anymore. I can't believe
that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah, all right,
I gotta ask how hard did he kick him? I
(35:27):
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
The boy looking back is he's full of love and
he did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And laughing about it, so yeah, he does. I don't know,
that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, Wow, that's quite a story.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limy Tunes cartoons.
Occasionally it was borderline brutality. Michael, you quit right, The
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Kadi or or anybody can answer this question. Do you
know who Keith Jarrett is? M M, I know the name,
which is where I was about a week ago. Okay,
so I'm Jarrett. I like all kinds of music, like
there is on a song by song basis. There is
no genre I don't like really except for metal. I
just have never been able to get in any metal.
(00:53):
But other than that, every genre there are songs I
like and songs I don't what songs I like. And
so I'm like really into learning to play the piano
the last couple of years, and I watch a lot
of videos about piano, and some guys I like were
doing an all time Greatest Pianist's list the other day.
Who are the goats? Are you familiar that people now
refer to goats as plural? It's a plural, It's not,
(01:15):
it's not. No no, No, that doesn't work at all. Sorry,
you're wrong. Apparently I'm wrong too. I've just become aware
enough times. Now you name goats, these three are the goats,
the greatest of all time. Yeah, I don't get it,
but that's the way people refer to it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I get what honestly, although that is silly, you know,
grammatically speaking, I much prefer that who's the greatest guitar player?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's an idiotic question. So now you say, if you
want to name a bunch of people are on the
very top tier, great' that's what people mean when they
say go now anyway, So one of the goats was
this Keith Jarrett piano player who I had heard of,
but like I'd tried to listen to before and couldn't
get into. Maybe I just wasn't ready for it yet.
Sometimes that is with music, you're not ready for it
yet for a variety of reasons, fairly complex.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Is this like is this a new artist or is
this no?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, he's still alive. He doesn't perform anymore because he
had some strokes and can't play the piano anymore, but
he is considered among jazz musicians like one of the
top Rick Bato, the music producer, has got a YouTube
video that millions of people have watched an interview with
Keith Jarrett and calls him one of the great music
composers of the last century at least. I mean, he's
(02:29):
just an absolute genius, and a genius in the fact
that most of his famous albums are completely improvised. That
was his thing. He walks into a stadium and the
feel of the piano, the crowd, the room, the day,
he just makes it up, you know, like four songs,
oh he plays. And he even says that like if
(02:52):
he has an idea, he discounts it. He doesn't want
to have an idea before he goes out there. He
just wants to feel at as he goes. And it's
just okay, you to hear some if that were me,
So go ahead and start the song, Michael, because I'm
going to talk about it over this. And so one
of the recommendations I was looking up to some of
the best Keith Jarrett stuff, and one of the recommendations
(03:13):
was this song. It's from live Bordeaux concert Live. Most
of his famous stuff is live, Like I said, all improvised,
crank it up enough that we can hear. This is
part one, the singing starts. There's no singing, it's instrumental.
This is part three. There's just four parts. Like I said,
he's improvising it. So he just does four songs ranging
(03:33):
from four to fifteen minutes long, just however long he's
feeling it. Crowd goes wild. If the crowd reacts poorly,
he yells at them. He's very touchy artists sort of person. Yeah,
where do you get off a drum solo? There's no
drum solo, and you good crank it up, because this
is what's interesting. So I became obsessed with this song
on Sundays after the Grammy's. Interestingly enough, I became aware
(03:57):
of it and I listened to the whole thing while
I was walking the dog, and it hit me in
a way like I don't remember the last time a
song has hit me like this. And I probably listened
to it ten times that night, including in bed with
my headphones on while I was falling asleep, maybe ten
times the next day in the rain. I send it
to some people. It's just it affected me in so
much in such a way. Now I'm getting to the
(04:19):
punchline that you're gonna find quite hilarious. Oh boy on
this song affecting me so much. It's like, man, this
isn't really like even my sort of thing. I mean,
it's just so and it gets slightly more complex. I mean,
it's just very pretty sweet piano music. It's four minutes here,
(04:41):
let me read this. So I started doing a little
research on famous Keith Jarrett albums, and this album has
four and five stars from all your big jazz magazines
and top reviewers of all time and that sort of stuff,
and particularly this song. Here's one of the reviews for
this song from McSweeney's. It's one of the most respected
(05:03):
jazz critics of all time. A note for divorced Dads
on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three, And I thought,
what what one would have a difficult time finding a
musical composition that better suits the emotions of a recently
divorced dad than Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three. If
(05:26):
I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking for
coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford f one fifty or something,
I would stop him and play it for him. It
gives me goosebumps. Actually reading this. This is free key. Yeah,
it's a guy who drove a twenty fifteen Ford f
one fifty. The entirety of the piece is four minutes
and four seconds. I cannot think of a reason why
(05:46):
a recently divorced dad couldn't find that kind of time.
Once the divorce, dad and I had an understanding we
would venture into the composition. It begins with the stable
rolling chords that gently rooted the piece, drawing up imagery
of a young couple holding hands in a tall grass.
They're one end of the is zeygeite of relationship. And
it goes on and on like this, through the whole relationship,
(06:09):
falling in love, being in love, deciding to have kids,
having kids, it becoming difficult, and falling apart, the divorce happening,
you trying to raise your kids on your own. At
the end of this song, and then he ends actually
with now go pick up your kid from karate practice.
Now this is freaking me out. Turn it out just
a little bit, Michael, because nowhere I think we're into
the you realize you're divorced and you're raising your kids
(06:33):
on your own part. I yes, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Now did Keith jareded say any of this or this
is just the reviewer figuring quote unquote figuring this out.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is one of the leanies. This is one of
the most famous jazz reviewers of all time. That's the
way he interpreted this music and me as a recently
divorced dad laying in bed listening to it ten times
in a row because it touched me in a way
I can't remember music ever touching me. What the hell
is that is weird? Well, it is weird. Holy smuff,
(07:04):
I know, isn't that strange?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Well, hey, you got anything for angsty empty nesters?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I like to play golf? Yeah, yeah, Wow, Wow, what
a trip. Isn't that strange? Though?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean that's that's beyond strange. That's uh does.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
He ex well?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I guess he kind of sort of explains why, but
not no way that I would find terribly compelling if
I came across it anywhere else in any other context.
I think, well, wait a minute, there are a lot of,
you know, trips people go through in their lives that
maybe start like super exciting, promising, then get kind of rocky,
and then you've just got to make the most of it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And move on. I mean, there are a lot of
things like that, but here we are, well, there are
also a million pieces of music that are kind of
sweet but modling. But you know, whatever, the fact that
this well known jazz critic picks out one of the
most respected jazz pieces in history and assigns this particular
(08:09):
meaning to it, and then I, not knowing that it'd
be one thing if i'd read that first, but not
knowing that at all, get pulled into this song.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
In a way.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I don't remember the last time I've been pulled into
a song where I listened to it that many times
in a row, if ever, in my life.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's amazing how different music works. That's how you felt
with that, And I felt like I was on hold
waiting for a prescription from like cvsten right.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I agree in any other context I would have been
the same way, and I probably would have listened to
like a minute thought for me and gone to the
next song. And it makes me question my understanding of
you know, abstract art and stuff like that. When I
look at a piece of art in a walm thing,
she's my three year old could do that. That doesn't mean
anything because that music, see I'm into that normally, that
(08:56):
kind of music, well, I agree with Hitler. It's a
ruse half drig gardisent is here. But that kind of
music usually, I think is just kind of meandering, and
I understand some people like it, but it's not really
my bag. The fact that it had such a specific
the fact that he even mentions aes Okay, so here's
(09:17):
here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Obviously we're we're sitting here, you know, rolling around in
the wonder of it. We need to know more about this,
this guru, this sage, this omniscient McSweeney person.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
What the hell's going on there? What sort of psychic
witchery is this is that? Does he have that ability
with all songs in art? That painting over there, If
your cat just got hit by a car, that's the
perfect painting.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
As you're sitting there thinking of little Fluffy and admiring
the brushstrokes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's just freaky.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Man, Well, let me want to go find all of
my favorite songs and read the reviews on it, just
to see lines up.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
One would have a difficult time finding a musical composition
it better suits the emotions of a recently divorced dad.
If I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking
for coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford F one fifteen,
and you're a coffee addict. Yeah, I have done that
as a I would stopping a year wrong the hack
(10:17):
and he left out going to get McDonald's on the
way home. Yeah, that's true. That doesn't know anything. It
was freaky man, laying in bed listening to it in
my headphones in the dark, moved by music in a
way maybe I never have been in my life weird. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I've been trying to think if there's anything that's been
anything similar, any song or music similar to that, And
all I can come up with is is I discovered
an album several years after it was out by the
band from Indiana called Houndmouth, and the song is my
Cousin Greg, and the opening line is my cousin Greg
is a greedy son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I'm just I'm not sure what McSweeney would say
about that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I have no cousin Greg who's a greedy son of
a bitch, so obviously it's not that close a fit.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's freaky, So I don't know what I'm wing.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You gotta look more into this McSweeney dude because he's
a witch.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or followed me around. Yeah, that'd be my guess. Although
he wrote this years ago. Well right, that's weird, man.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's why I brought it to the podcast. I just
thought this is too effing freaky. Next time, I'm gonna
show a slow saxophone solo that expresses the feelings of
a man is broken TV and no extended warranty.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Miss Kat's wearing football jerseys.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
The Armstrong and Getty Show or Jack your show, podcasts
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Speaker 2 (11:51):
Hey we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast one
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Speaker 3 (11:58):
According to a new pole, gen Z doesn't want to
go out to the bars and scream at each other
over loud music or fifty thousand other people. It seems
like sometimes having a conversations, they'd rather sit around at
home and have a drink or two with their friends.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Why did it take until gen Z to figure that out?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't know, and I don't want to like over.
I don't want to dominate the podcast because I'm a
team player. But I have never even when I was
young and slightly hip, and somewhat popular.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I didn't want to go to bars and yell at
each other. You'll be crazy. You'll have to weigh in
on this, Katie, because but my experience is I was
out at the bars a lots of times. We're like
at a quiet kind of bar and everybody talking. I say,
it's eleven o'clock. We got to go over to the where,
And I think, why, we're having a perfectly good time here.
We can hear each other, we're sitting. We're gonna go
(12:56):
to some place where we're like shuffled around shoulder to show,
screaming at the top of our lungs. Are not talking?
Why go ahead, Katie.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Well, no, I've I went through the phase of every
weekend at the bars and all of that, and I
did too for twenty two years. So hid it for
twenty two years, but it was it was a solid seven,
you know, and it got exhausting. Now when I go
out to the bars, it's more of that environment where
(13:24):
it's just chilling. It's very quiet, some music, but there's
not a lot of yelling.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, I never never. When I was when I was
twenty years old, the drinking age was eighteen. When I
went to college. When I was twenty years old. I
had no interest in going to the big throbbing club
and yelling at the person next to me, thank God
for you.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
To retrain from saying big throbbing club if you can. Yeah,
I've just I've never had that in me. This golf
club where I play golf mostly opened up a new
bar and it's like quiet and classy and set up
for like conversation areas. We're four to six people can
sit and chat and have a drink and all In
(14:03):
and Judy and I went there and we were like,
oh my god, this is perfect. And then we ran
into some friends of ours who really aren't great people.
But the dude was like, oh my god, did they
waste that space?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I couldn't hate it off. Where are the TVs with
the play by play going? And the energy? We want energy?
I want no energy, less energy. I bring no energy
and I want none thrust upon me. Yeah, and same
way with restaurants. I hope gen Z kills loud restaurants.
You know, whenever it was in the mid nineties that
(14:36):
they decided to take all the baffling out of the
ceilings and have it be open brick and pipes, so
you can get as much sound reverberating as possible. So
it's just deafeningly loud, and every clink of every glass
and fork and the whole place echoes in your head.
Who wants that?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Where it's just acceptable to be obnoxiously loud at the table,
Like I remember when being in a restaurant, you know,
you had manners and you had to be kind of
quiet and polite, and then you've got tables next to
you just screaming and having a pull blown party and
it's normal now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well, speaking of being a team player, obviously we're a
group of at least somewhat grumpy, somewhat introverted people. But
some people obviously are energized by that. They like it.
It gives them more energy. As they say about extroverts
and introverts. Being around people energizes extroverts and it drains
(15:28):
the energy from introverts, and it must be that way
with like loud bars and restaurants and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, but are you arguing that the percentage of people
that are introverts is higher among gen Z or do
they just wise up to why are we standing in
this super loud bar.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Interesting question. Good Lord, I can't come close to answering it.
Here are the stats. Let's see, bubba. The new survey
finds the two and three gen Z wine enthusiasts. So
this is people who'd rather drink wine for what that's
worth two out of three out for the comfort of
their homes when it comes to drinking, specifically home pull
of two thousand American adults between twenty one and twenty
(16:03):
six found those who enjoy wine, only twenty three percent
would choose to go to a bar, and only eighteen
percent would opt for drinking at some sort of live event.
For gen z wind enthusiasts, having a glass as an
opportunity to be social as hanging out with friends tops
the list of activities they prefer to partake in while drinking.
But they'd really rather do it at home than out anywhere.
(16:29):
Maybe because the cost of living so high for young
people and they're trying to save money. That was the
other thing, because, especially because I was pretty poor when
I was young, is I could afford like a beer
if we went out, I could.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Have a couple at home. End of discussion, Yeah, that
wasn't the right kind of bar. I liked the more
like the more like people in boots bars because that's
where I could sidle up to a table to girls
and they wouldn't notice that I was drinking all their
picture beer because I couldn't afford to buy beer. And well,
girls oftentimes get pictures of beer. They aren't gonna drink them.
(17:04):
They're not really drinkers. They just they needed to have
it sitting there. It's kind of a prop. I'll take
care of that for you. Wow, this is a rarity.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
The judges reporting a ten on resourcefulness, a ten on creepiness,
and a ten on alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's a rare triple ten. A perfect scar Jack, Armstrong
and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
This is The Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast
One More Thing, Get it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So we're about to play a clip of John Cougar
Mellencamp talking at a concert. Is this one of the
concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan
or is he on his own here? On his own here?
So he's touring with I know he's gonna be I
think at the Hollywood Bowl in La which I'd like
to see Melonhead, Willie Nelson and the ancient Bob Dylan.
(18:04):
Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared to Willie Nelson,
who just turned ninety. All right, it's got to be
something when he sings. I was just reading a set
list on these concerts, and Willie sings among these classics.
Funny how time slips away? Did it slip away? You've
been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away.
Something happened to you when you were thirty. Eh, it
was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But
(18:30):
I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not. Really.
It's pretty much the songs you expect. Melonhead sings, pink
houses and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder
why he's touring.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
A couple of years ago, he said he had no
interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't particularly want
to hear new music or new versions of old songs,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
He had no interest in being a jukebox. He did
get a tooth knocked out by his kid, like a
year or so ago. Did that cause him any financial difficulties?
He and his son got fistfight. I don't imagine he
can afford basic dentistry. But I don't know. I have
no idea of his financial wherewithal. Why is will he
doing it? That's just what he does.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't think he can imagine any other life, right,
And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the
world would they play more shows, much less launch a
giant tour?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, I think Willie, that's what they do. Will he's
paying off his tax debts, right, I don't know if
he still has that. But that story was thirty years ago, Michael.
But he also he travels with his sons. I've watched
some of the videos from the bus and his kids
are like sixty so, but he travels with the sons
who are in the band too, So it's probably probably
a pretty good time. I mean, what would be better
than that? Really? Actually, I can't think of anything that
(19:43):
would be better than that. So, and then Bob Dylan.
I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeh, he is exactly.
He doesn't need the money or the acclaim or the
Maybe he likes hotels, I don't know. But John Cougar
is on stage for a while, and do we need
to know anything else about that. No, he starts, he's
(20:05):
just talking to the crowd. Okay, here we go, and
she went.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It's just like he ready to be a smart like
when I'm talking to Jesus. And then I got it
real quiet, why do you think I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Any Hey, Joe, find.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
This guy and then they see him after the show.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Anyway, before I was salutely interrupted, guys, I can stop
this show right now.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I'm just doing.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Since you've been so wonderful, I'm gonna cut about ten
songs out of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Here gonna got then.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I get it. Jack so a tape?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Did he actually leave?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And he actually left? It's not cool.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Don't let an a hole and the show? So you
heard that the crowd was entirely on your side.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One guy. So he's into a story. Some guy play
some music, which is hurtful if you're telling a story
that you think is either funny or important or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Right, and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But yeah, I think the rest of the crowd was
at least willing to listen to your story, if not
enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed
at the joke and everything. It was just fine, and.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Some of them even went ah hey at the guy who.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Interrupted him, so a lot of people did. Yeah. So
then he plays like six bars of Jack and die
and leave. Wow. Yeah, he's old and bitter. I enough
time for that. I have thought about this a lot.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I uh.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
So on Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the
TV show he had in the same week. I think
John Mellencamp and John Prine. If you don't know joem Prine,
he was a very old singer songwriter who never had
commercial success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by
(22:30):
people who like music anyway. He died COVID but had
them on both that week. So they're both super old
and at the end of their careers. And it struck
me how John Prine had what I hope I can
have when I'm old, but I don't think I can
because I don't even have it now. He just had.
He just had like a rye. This is kind of funny,
isn't it, view of getting older? I mean, this is
(22:53):
almost amusing what this is like, the health problems and
the this and the that, and the kids and the
marriage and just the way. The songs were like that too,
but John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter it went by
too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But
just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty,
(23:15):
you know, that sort of thing. And I thought those
are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do
with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You
either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and
marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really
bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I just thought that was interesting, and I say,
heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well,
let me start with this. Was playing golf the other
day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend
talked about him a little bit. One of the most
cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in
(23:56):
the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just
made like that, and it's an amazing blessing. And I
commented to my buddy, who also has a more than
one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids knows
you come out of the womb like that or you don't.
I've always said, and this number is pulled out of
(24:16):
my imagination, that you got maybe about fifteen twenty percent
around the edges. You can push yourself in this way
or push yourself in that way, but you are who
you are.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his
old age?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Maybe? I don't know. I don't know either. You're I
think you're right about that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go
fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more
cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference
in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just
saying my buddy's name is Dan. I was born annoyed.
I'm never going to be Dan right, and I love
(25:01):
the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my
acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him,
and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know,
and I try, I've tried to be honest about this
with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute
our good qualities to choice, and our bad qualities to genetics.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I got a strength of character, I know.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, all the good things about me are because I
chose to be that way and I.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Worked hard to be that right, right, I gotta admit
when I when I was taking in the two different
attitudes about growing over and your and your your best
days being behind you, I related to the emotions of
John Mellencamp a lot more than John Brown. I'd like
to be like John Bryant, but I feel in my head,
in my heart more like John Mellencamp for whatever reason,
(25:54):
because I think I'm born that way I was, which
is why I am.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And then there's the question of genetics, which is one
of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics,
but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Try to end up with a half cat half dog
sort of situation. Is that what that is? Yeah, that's
right exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you
have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or
you run into them, that those switches might be flipped.
But if you don't go through those things, they won't
be If your environment is you have good nutrition, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It'll never manifest itself itself.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It's not like the entirety of who you are is
determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays
a role too, in various ways. But you know, we're
in the early days of really understanding that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I just remember. So they both sang songs that week,
and John Prime's song at that time, this is the
last album before he died. I think it was when
I Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there
something about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the
tilted whirl, I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long.
It's it's like looking back on the best parts of
your life and wanting to relive them, or getting to
smoke cigarette again. And John John Couger had a line
(27:12):
in his song and all your best efforts don't amount
to anything anymore. And I thought, wow, that's just such
two different views of where you are at the end
of your career. And one of you is happy and
one of you is miserable. But like you said, maybe
you can't control that.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's interesting acceptance.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Is that how much of that is inborn, your capacity
to just accept your life and it's reality.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm going to be a really bitter old person. I
think I'm pretty bitter younger. Yeah, well I can see
that I will be quite self deprecating, but a bitter
old person.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
The Armstrong and Getty show, yea or Jack your show,
podcasts and our Hot Lakes.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast one
more thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Fathers get a day, but we get a month of
alphabet soup.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I like this. The alternate people, what. I don't think
that's what the society is this. I don't think that's
the point of Pride Month.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And that's so it's all due respect to my my
gay friends who are uniformly with the meme I saw
the other day.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
LGB is all we need. The rest is not us well,
and it's not just a month, as you know, there
are a whole bunch of other weeks and days around
the same theme throughout the years, So it's not just
a month and a year.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, but fathers get a day. And the reason that's
popped into my mind is we have some kind of
father's day related stuff, and you know, maybe it would
have been better then because fathers only get one. Then
you ought to shut up about the importance of fathers.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Hey, you weren't here on Friday when Katie and I
and Michael had the discussion that we've had for many
years of looking for a Father's Day card and trying
to find one that's not a joke about flatulence or
drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's Day cards are all
you know, there are some joke Mother's Day cards, but
there's tons of how important and valued and crucial mothers are.
(29:26):
Dad's Day cards are all jokes about.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true. So anyway,
why would be we be in the least hesitant to
continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that sort of thing.
Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan cass Casas. He's a
Boston Red Sox player telling a story about his dad.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young,
I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still,
I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and
get out there and get some son right right, And you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Know, I get out one day.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
And I come back to the dug out crying, pissed.
And you know, that's that's what a six year old does.
He sits on the bench and he cries and he
doesn't want to go out there when you know.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
His team's playing defense.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So my dad, you know, being the dad that he
is trying to teach me the lessons that he did
in his own special way, came into the dugout. He
actually grabbed me by my shirt, dragged me to the line,
and Looney Tunes style kicked me out onto the field
and actually had one of my best friends that I
went to high school with later he ended up playing
pro ball. His mom actually called child Services on my
(30:34):
dad at the field. No, no, no, for real, there's
no joke at the field. I see my dad go
away in the cop car, gets arrested. Send the nice
of joke here. But that day, that day, my dad
taught me a super valuable lesson that not a lot
of people know. And it's that I had a responsibility
to my teammates, I had a responsibility to my coaches,
to the parents that showed up that day, all the
(30:55):
fans who were at that Little league game. Whatever it
may be to go out there and give my best effort,
no matter how I was feeling on the bench, no
matter what I was going through that day or whatever
little hardship that I was feeling when I got out,
that I still apply every single time, because sometimes I
just want to sit down on this bench after I
get out and I want to weave and I want
to cry. But that's that's not how baseball is. So yeah,
(31:17):
I love my dad to death. I wouldn't have this
opportunity without him. But yeah, funny little excerpt that's about
That's that's the type of my dad is.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So that's true that I like the Looney Tooth reference.
It is an amazing story. That took a turn though.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
She called CPS and they actually spent the night in jail.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Wow, did not see that coming.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, that is a good story. Also, like the fact
that he's six and he said the reason he was
playing was to burn calories and to get some sun.
I never thought about that when I was six, And
I better work off this pop tart. Cool.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Wow, that second shot with Chip Cookie was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that
you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the
roles overlap.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
But when little Johnny skins his.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Knee, Mom is, oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like,
you'll be fine, You'll be great, and that whole And
I remember my dad was my baseball coach a lot too,
and he would come out to the mound when I
was pitching. And I've said this, told this story before too.
He'd say get this guy out or I'm gonna pull you.
And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus
(32:40):
me and to say, you know, you have a job
to do.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Here is what it is. I'm not out of here.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay,
because telling you go do it is telling you everything's
gonna be okay, telling you ay, you're fine, go run
and play. It's a empowering message to look at me
a man to man, even as like a fifteen year old,
(33:08):
and say focus, get this guy out.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That's it. That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say,
oh yeah, I can.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Plus, you know, as I've said before, I was like, you,
damn right, I'm getting this guy out.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what
coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Now, it can cross the line into being an a
hole if you're a bad coach, but it was a
very good coach.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't know. Anxiety. It's going to cause anxiety.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This is reminding me of a story my dad told me.
He played football in high school and my grandfather, his
dad was a surgeon, and my dad took a cleat
to the shin during a game and my granddad sewed
him up in the in the team team locker room
and then said get your ass back out there.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
And this was during the Civil War. Yeah, pretty much
as well, Ben, mid sixties.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup
for clip twelve?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
No, this is just where we're headed if this woke
crap continues.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just
wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if
you consent to it. Of course I don't. I don't consent. Well,
I was thinking maybe in an hour or so, if
you're up to it, Me and your other non gender
specific parent can sit in the living room and breathe
for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you. Of course,
you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered by that
or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know what to
(34:40):
feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey, Oh
my god, did you just call me honey?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh my god?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this.
I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well,
maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to
live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me,
because my feelings are more important than all of our
physical well beings. O. Well, I'm gonna go into the
living room and cry I love you. You don't have
to say it back. I'm not going to.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Wow parent and child in the year twenty sixty. That's
pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended.
I don't know what I'm feeling anymore. I can't believe
that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah, all right,
I gotta ask how hard did he kick him? I
(35:27):
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
The boy looking back is he's full of love and
he did the right thing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And laughing about it, so yeah, he does. I don't know,
that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, Wow, that's quite a story.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limy Tunes cartoons.
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