August 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Thursday August 1, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- A Scrote of Young Men /Douglas Murray on Oct 7 Attack
- Younger People in the Workplace Too Familiar
- Conan Selfie with Stranger/ Why does HS define us?
- Vegas, Copperfield &The Sphere / People Talking
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Getty, Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One
More Thing. Find out wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Douglas Murray gave a speech in Paris recently talking about
Israel and Hamas and anti Semitism. We have divided a
substantial part of it into four cuts. We can discuss
in between as desired. Michael, We're starting with ninety there.
We should have gotten ready for that, and we'll go
from there.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hit it.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I've spent most of the months since the seventh October
in Israel and Gaza and have seen as much of
the conflicts I think it's possible for.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Non combatant to see.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I've mean, I went to all of the massacre sites
when they were still fresh. I have spent a lot
of time with the survivors, the families of the hostages.
I've been in the morgues of Tel Aviv where they're
still trying to identify the dead. One young man's body
was only identified yesterday. And think what it takes what
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you have to do to a man to make his
body unidentifiable for eight months.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
This is more than just a recitation of horror. He's
working toward greater points. But roll on, Michael.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
One of the things that struck me most after the
seventh October was I was at one of the reunions
of the Nova Party, and these are all young people
who'd seen their friends raped and murdered in front of them.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
One young man, a.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Survivor, showed me footage from his phone, and it included
footage of a young friend of his who didn't make
it into his car and was lynched by a mob
immediately afterwards. This young man, this survivor, said to me,
what would you do if this happened in your country?
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And I thought, I didn't say, but it has. It
has happened in my society, in my Europe, in my West.
The scale may be different, but the terrorists are the same.
It happened here in Paris at the butterclar It happened
in Manchester where twenty two young girls were blown up
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for the crime of going to a pop concert. It
happened at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The scale was.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Different, But the perpetrators are all the same. They're always
the same people who, whether in Toulouse or Porte de Vassne,
Copenhagen or Mumbai, can never restrain.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Them cells from targeting the Jews.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yet the sympathy of so many people here in New
Europe since the seventh has not been on the side
of the victims, but on the side of the perpetrators.
Too many people mistake the victim for the oppressor, the
underdog for the overdog, and those who fight terrorism with
those who dream of it and bring up their children
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to love it from the cradle.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
If you're not familiar with that list of four Mumbai
among them, those are all notable terrible, deadly attacks by
Islami fascists, Islamic supremacists, whatever you want to call them,
on innocent people, terrorist attacks, they comment, or shall we
roll on little finish and then I will your next clip.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Consider this.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
In every European capital as well as in America, photographs
of the Israeli hostages still in captivity by Hamaz have
been put up, and in every city outside of Israel
they have been torn down.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Think about that for a moment.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
If someone in London or Paris loses their dog, they
will put up a poster asking people to help find them.
And if even one person in our society went around
tearing down such a poster, we would ask what had
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happened in our society. We would ask why we were
producing people so pathological. We would want to find the
person and punish them. Yet, when the missing a Jewish children,
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or Jewish women or Jewish men, because there's no crime
in being a man either, these posters are torn down.
One of the relatives of the be Best children held
in captivity told me recently that he saw posters of
his one year old relative torn down in the center
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of Dublin.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah. That, uh, that's a stunning point right there. You
have got to be some sort of warped individual, and
apparently there are a lot of them to take down
those posters. Even if you believe all of the nonsense
of the land belonged to the Palestinians and the Jewish
people stole it. Even if you believe all that stuff,
you're still against the Jewish families getting their kids back.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I agree with you one percent.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But there's example after example, just in the last century
of ideology, particularly extremist ideology, warping what seemed like normal
people and turning them into monsters. And often when that
fever and era of history passes, they cannot explain how
they got swept up in it and became monsters.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, I knew it has the way humans are. I
knew what had happened in New York and a number
of our college campuses. I didn't know what happened everywhere
in the world outside of Israel where those posters got
torn down.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That is highly troubling. The brilliant Douglas Murray in the
final clip.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
One other consideration, we have all for years heard the
feminists issue a call on male sexual violence against women.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Believe all women, But where.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Was the solidarity, Where was the sympathy or even belief?
When the women would Jews, the belief evaporates. And I
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won't even go into the psycho pathology and suicidalism of
Queers for Palestine, who are a branch of Turkeys for Christmas.
It was Hamaz that started this war, Yet much of
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the world has forgotten this. They've been fooled by Hamas
propaganda into imagining that Israel is the aggressor. Having seen
this war up close. I can tell you with one
hundred percent certainty that the war would be over tomorrow,
not just if Hamaz returned the Jewish hostages, but if
the Palestinians in Gaza brought up their children not to hate,
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but to love, not to aspire to a cult of death,
but to join Israel in a belief in life, not
to believe in destroying a state, but to put their
into building one.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, that is something that whole believe all woman, me
too thing that obviously the road stopped on that at
Jewish women being raped to death. Yeah, I mean I was.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
We had a clip this morning of that woman screaming
I support Hamas, I am Hamas outside of the White
House over the weekend, and prior to her saying that,
in the clip, she was screaming about all sorts of
other stuff, and one of the things she started screaming
house they didn't there was no rape that didn't happen.
And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this huge
group of people going I wonder how many of them
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were out there during the me too rallies. Yeah, because
that's all the same kind of people that go to.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
These protests, all of them, but that that does help
their argument. They don't believe those ripe stories. So okay,
you a final note.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And if you listen to the radio show you are
the armstrung and getting on demand, you're gonna hear this again.
But I just wanted to throw in just a little
bit of what Sam Harris wrote recently. Is another thinker
who I admire even when I don't agree with him.
He provokes my thoughts. But he unleased rather a long
peace about fundamentalist Islam and how it's a political system
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and a relentively expansionist political system and totalitarian political system,
and compares it and contrasts it in some ways with Christianity,
which is also expansionist.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But is.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know, the blessed or the meek, for they will
inherit the earth when it's done right. Christianity does not
employ force in any way. And he gets to the
fact that Islam from the first moment was a religion
of power, and to quote him, the idea of non
Muslims ruling over Muslims or even having equivalent power alongside
them perpetually has always been anathema. It's an error to
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be rectified through spiritual struggle, sure, but also through physical violence.
The fact that Islam has failed to achieve dominance in
our world and has proven for nearly a thousand years
to be quite backward and weak is a perennial source
of humiliation. By the light of the doctrine, it makes
absolutely no sense. It's a sacrilege. From the point of
view of Islam, the status quo is intolerable, and then
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he brings it to what we're talking about, and this
general attitude of affronted dignity, this yearning for victory, which
century after century has been out of reach, affects everything
that Islam touches. It is why the history of peace
negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians has been so hopeless.
Have the Israelis made mistakes, of course, do the Jews
have their own religious fanatics, yes, But the peace process
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between the Israelis and the Palestinians has been rendered hopeless
from the start because for a majority of Palestinians and
for the vast numbers of Muslims in the region, the
mere presence of a Jewish state in the Holy Land
is totally unacceptable. It's a knakma, a catastrophe. It is
a perversion of sacred history, and it is an abject
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failure of the mission of Islam, which is to conquer
the world for the glory of God and above all,
to never forsake Muslim lands once they have been conquered,
which of course Palestine once was. And then it goes
into some quotes from the Koran which make it clear
that for fundamentalists killing people to achieve their goals is
just hunky dory. But I think the point that Sam
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Harris is making is absolutely fundamental to.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
All of this.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They can't come to a settlement with Israel and reach
a two state solution. They want a one state solution,
even if everybody dies, everybody on both sides. Two state solution.
Please sell your idiot fantasies somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We're not buying. I'm not buying. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So the question is Secretary of State's over there trying
to work that deal out with Saudi Arabia where we
have some sort of agreement with them like we have
with Japan, where we would come to their aid if
they were attacked, and which Saudi Arabia would love that
because that helps them in that whole battle with Iran.
But Saudi Arabia has to get on board with accepting,
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you know, normalizing relationship with Israel. They're saying, and they
won't do that unless one the war ends and two
they commit to a two state solution. But whether or
not they actually mean that or not is an open question,
Like if MBS might be willing to say, yeah, and
you have to commit to us two state solutions sometime,
but doesn't actually enforce.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It right for domestic political consumption, much as Anthony Blanket
is desperate for things to calm down a little bit
for domestic political consumption.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, so that's.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Those are the next steps there.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That'd be a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Again, if politics was restricted to people only saying what
they actually meant, that like eighty percent of it would vanish.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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Speaker 3 (12:56):
The whole Like younger people, people in their twenties in
the workplace thing that a number of people have observed
and I've had this experience myself, and they are having
the problem with the level of like familiarity and lack
of And it's hard to say this without sounding like
a but just just like you go into a workplace
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where you want to be what the older people are,
but you treat them like peers in a very too
familiar way that didn't exist and throughout my entire career,
and I just had that experience here and now they
are having this person other person's having it at their workplace.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Just like way too much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know, Hey, Bud, how's it going, Hey, what's up dude?
Lack of respect? Yeah, And again it's hard to say
it without sounding like it. But when I started in
various jobs, I didn't talk to the older people that
had the jobs I wanted that way and like suggesting
ways they ought to do things differently and just and
I've met a couple of people mentioned that sort of thing,
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and what we were discussing is where that comes from?
Joe and I regularly say, and I never hear anybody
else say this. They didn't raise themselves, but culturally, why
do young people come into the workplace and feel like
they can treat their betters as to their beers. Okay,
I said they're better while you do sound like end
(14:22):
up British. No less, I don't know what the right
term would be, but.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No, I get, I get exactly what you're saying. I
don't know, just off the top of my head. I
think it probably has to do with virtually all of
our experience was actual back in the day, and every
generation would layer a little new lacker details on the
way people act in quotes, come up with variations and
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change it a little bit. But now so much of
people's experience is virtual. They're not a product of what
they've experienced in the same way.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know that helped.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, maybe if you're going to go with multi causal,
I can throw out a whole bunch of multi causal
I think. I mean it's the some of the fruits
of the everybody gets a trophy generation, which has been
going on for quite a while now. But true, that's
part of it. The self esteem movement. We went way
too far, too much self esteem is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A miserable failure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You've got way too much self esteem for your age
and where you are, all right, take it down a.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Notch then what you've accomplished. Yeah, you know, more importantly
that and the hold the parenting trend. If I want
to be my kid's friend, not their parent, right.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You have something, Michael.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Yeah, I'm ashamed to say this, but I watched a
manager reprimand a young reporter and you know, it was
over something very minor, but he basically said, you know,
you need to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You need to you know, get with it. You're sitting around.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
And the young reporter looked at HM and said, I'm sorry,
but I've never been talked.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To that way.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I don't know if I can work here. And this
person was like twenty five years old.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, so again getting my monocausal stuff. No teacher can
talk to kids that way. So if your parents aren't
talking you that way, the teachers, the coaches, nobody ever
talks to you in any sort of way that kind
of puts you in your place. And again it makes
me sound like it, but there is a place. There's
a place for children, there's a place for people lower
on the wrung, there's a place. There's there's structure, there's
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a hierarchy in life. There just is.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I sure as hell hope there is.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like when I go in for a surgery, you know,
I'm hoping that person did well in medical school, for instance, Yes, Katie.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Well no, I just think about a lot of the
younger people too, have kind of been growing up in
that anti law enforcement generation.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like they are.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
They don't respect the cops. What's going to make you
think they're going to expect respect? You know, somebody who
might have worked at a company for five years more
than them.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
I think that the lack of respect for law enforcement
kind of trickles down.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I don't actually know. It might just be all of
these things, but I have experienced and it's really off put.
I'm going to try to explain to my kids to
have a different attitude when they go into a workplace
with the people above you with way more experience making
a lot more money than you. How about you watch
and observe as opposed to think your peers they got
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something you you might want at some level. I've come
across enough people bringing this up to know what's a thing.
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Speaker 2 (17:45):
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
Conan O'Brien went to Harvard and was involved in National
Lampoon there and then went on to write for.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The Simpsons and Saturday Night Live and have his own show.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And even with all that success, I think he's more
successful now at age sixty, than he's ever been in
his career. He just sold his podcast De li O
to Serious XM for one hundred and fifty million dollars
and he's got millions of people that tune into his
various works now, so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy.
An interesting thing about his personality that I heard in
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an interview I want to bring up, but first, let's
hear a clip of him on The Tonight Show last
night with Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to
The Tonight Show since he got it taken away from
him back in the day.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
This really nice young guy in a white shirt in
a baseball cap starts chatting with me and he's saying,
you know, Conan, and I love the podcast, and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Also I really love the old late night clips. I
watch him all the time, and you.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Know, I also really like the stuff you did with
the Simpsons, and I'm like, he's so nice.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, I'm saying thank you so much. Then we both
go through the TSA thing. He goes through. I go through.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
I collect all my stuff, you know the way you're
kind of distracted. I put my belt on, get my
shoes back on. I turn around, see the guy white
shirt hat, and I go, you know what, let's do selfie?
Do selfie? And the guy okay, let's go your knucklehead
and I get I'm like in a headlock.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, and he does a selfie and just as.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
He's taking it, I look, my guy's over there. This
is just a guy who's also wearing a white.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Shirt in a baseball cat.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Which is pretty eff in common.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
So rewind that story now and see it from his
point of view. He's waiting for his wife to come
through it.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Connor Brian comes through and it's like, heyie, that's.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
What I'm talking about, and told the guy I feel
so but you can delete it, and he was looked
like he was on the fence about deleting it.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
I felt terrible, but I love moments like that where
I'm go right back down to whatever you think you've
achieved in life.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's a guy who thinks I met Conor Obrian. He's
just an insane a hole.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That would be confusing. You're standing there, Connor Brian all
of a sudden shows Upfie, what what?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Okay, that's a great story, Oh Lord, and well told God.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, when was that or does he still do that? Maybe?
I don't know. Yeah, I wonder he doesn't even do
the TSA PreCheck. It's not that expensive, man.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So one thing I wanted to did you so Connan
O'Brien's probably really closer to your era, Katie as being
the big late night came in ours.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, huge.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I love him. I think he's hysterically funny. He is.
He is a funny, funny guy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I love watching his stuff where he goes out in
the public and just messes with people. He's got a
great series on YouTube where if you just type in Conan,
he has his own channel and it's just all this
stuff of him with like Kevin Hart having the intern
drive and just completely screwing with her the whole time.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's just wonderful.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, and uh what another conn the thing is, Oh,
I've heard Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about
how when Conan So, Conan was a writer there and
a lot of those big stars from Sarah and Live
were there, and then when Conan got his own show,
they were all so excited for him because they all
liked him. And Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlane
all those people went over to somebody's house to watch
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his first show because they were all so excited that
he was getting his big shot to be a big deal,
and uh, I need it turned out to be a
big deal. And like I've mentioned a few times, he
just sold his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Too serious after all his success, so good for him.
But even with all that, he was on some buddy
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else's show and talking about how and I think this
is true for a lot of people, how no matter
what is happen in his life, he's still the same
guy who was in high school. When in high school
he was a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo
with not very many friends. And he said he's still
that he still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable.
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He just he said he doesn't at this point, he's
sixty years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So,
no level of crowds, cheering, money, success, anything has changed
to he was in high school, and even without the
crowd's money and everything like that, I feel the same
way too. So why is who we were in high
school baked into who we are for the rest of
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our lives.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Whose cruel trick was that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,
it just didn't matter. Life was so completely different for
the first ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine
percent of mankind's existence.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It was you know, all.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Right, look, you're you're of breeding age, you're a fighting age,
you're of tracking down a mastadon, putting a spirit an age.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Let's get this done.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
When you're going to be dead by age twenty four
most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, we're searching for yourself at age forty eight as
a cave man.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well that's a rarity.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I just don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I've seen it work both ways too.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I've known a few people that were big deals in
high school and adult life has not worked out for
them that well, but they still see themselves as the
big deal, and it just it's kind of weird to
be around, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I mean, you don't I look that great for you?
But no, okay, good for you. Well, I still got
the nose in the air. Congrats looking good.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But it makes it hard to feel bad for them, though.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right right, right, right, Yeah, I don't Yeah, I suppose,
so I don't recall running into anybody who really answered
to that description recently, but yeah, I don't know. I
think I would pity them all the more. But again
I haven't brushed up against them, so I don't know.
But getting back to the whole cave man thing. So
I guess, you know, typical if you're gonna have like
a midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what am
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I doing? Why am I doing this? Is this how
I want to spend the rest of my life? It'd
be like at age seventeen as a caveman, right right,
all of this eating meat and sitting around a fire.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And I wonder if that's the biggest problem, if that's
the biggest problem modern humans have, is our brains and
consciousness just was not designed to go past like hardly
past age twenty breed, win a battle, die next right, right?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And I'd imagine if you if there were scientists fifty
thousand years ago, if you were to say to them,
what do you suppose happens to the brain around age eighty?
They would say, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Why do you care? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Are you going to become disillusioned with life at age
forty five?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Forty five? Who do you know is forty five?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so,
what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on
my leg.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if
Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome, you.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Ain't getting rid of yours either, no matter what you achieve.
That's what I learned.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know I became aware that. Well,
I suppose I can go ahead and say it. My daughter,
like so many of us, has a bit of that.
And we are touring law school the other day, and
the two fabulous young women who were taking us around
on the tour admitted to flaming imposters syndrome, and they're
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so sweet. They said, everybody has it. Everybody has it,
don't worry about it. You can do this, You'll be fine.
And it was great, and I think more people need
to know that. I tried to teach my kids that,
you know that feeling your big successful dad has it
every day every day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Fake it till you make it seriously. But it's hard
to convince people. They think, Oh, you're just saying that
to make me feel better.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton
elected president, and he was talking about what was like
to be at the White House and walk in there
every single day, and he said, if you don't walk
into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's
something seriously wrong with you, because everybody feels like I
can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Why am I here? Of all people? Me right right?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I am not good enough for this, I am not
important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,
Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Hi, Tom, did you see the game last night?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So I bet again kind of getting to the other
side of it. I feel like I have known some
people who don't seem like they've ever had any self
doubt one second in their lives. And are they just
pulling it off really well or are they actually not
ever have.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Any self doubt?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think those people probably exist, Katie, your your opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I just think don't think there are many.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I feel like, if you hmm, I feel like I'm
probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a
natural thing for someone to feel.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Would guess eighty percent of the people you perceive are
that way are faking it, and maybe twenty percent of
those people actually have whatever genetic gift it is to be,
you know, super comfortable and.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No impostor syndrome.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I you know, I didn't really have it until I
became an adult, and I get I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know your money.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Either, But it's partially because I hadn't achieved anything.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So what would I be an impostor about.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I was just going to say, as I kept running
into things that were increasingly difficult, I would think, oh boy,
I could I could really fail at this? Does anybody
around here realize I could completely fail at this.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I still Katie because I wear a suit to work
most days. I still like walking down the street in
a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say,
what was that guy to wearing a suit for?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's not a suit guy? Who are you trying to
kids about you? Right?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
You?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Just cause you could tell by looking at me. That's
like a guy who wears a suit kind of act.
Is that Hey, you think he borrowed that suit or
stay or something. Let's try to impress Look at the
dip in the suit is trying the kid?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right exactly? That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
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Speaker 2 (28:40):
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Speaker 3 (28:48):
But I mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went
to the magician and how he was working too sexy
for a show with lots of kids. There lots of
kids younger than my kids. Of course the younger kids
didn't get some of the jokes. But like he asked
a dad, stand up, sir, see here, you're your wife
and your kids. When's the last time you and your
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wife had.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Sex in front of their kids? Wait what okay?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And the last time you had it? So seven days ago?
He writes down the number seven for the trick, and
last time he had sex? How long did the session last?
And Dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that
question in front of my kids. It's weird.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I'm gonna starting sex the session from now on.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
An exam for a session, honey, a fantastic session. Maybe
the rich old bastard just figures I got one act.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I actually told my kids that it was a thing
with aging. Sometimes when people get old, they just kind
of lose track of what's appropriate and what's not. Because
that's true, right, and I think he might be there.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You'd think some of the world's most famous performers would
have figured that out by now, or had people.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He's hell. He's hell old. The thing that made me
laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show.
It's inappropriate. And I know some of you don't like
this language, but so part of the deal he was
he made this. It's a long drawn out story but
he's got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever,
and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden,
(30:20):
we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden,
a spaceship appears and it's floating around. He said, look
at that a spaceship. That made me laugh really. Oh
but anyway, so the other thing we did was we
went to the Sphere and that's the great big giant
(30:41):
ball if you haven't heard anything about it. It got
a lot of attention when it first opened because you
two played there. But it's not just a concert venue.
In fact, I don't think it's primarily going to be
a concert venue. I think it's mostly going to be
like movies and stuff like that. And so we watched
this movie about planet Earth and the Big Bang, and
it was an opportunity to show you oceans and mountains
and desert. And I did get a little bit uh
(31:03):
carsick motion sickness because you're floating around all this stuff
and it's so giant. It's I forget how many.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
K it was eighteen K screen.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this eighteen
K screen and that and the Vertigo of sitting like
at the top of vertical stands.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's like walking up a mountain in one hundred
and seventy thousand speakers and it's really remove it all. Yes,
so that's cool. So when the elephants come stomping through,
the base is like unlike anything you've ever heard before.
I mean even a great concert. The base is just stunning.
And then the seats move too, so you get a
full Like the elephants are stomping through, it's loud and
(31:42):
you're kind of bouncing around. It sort of sounds like
sensory overload.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, And I got a kid with sensory issues, so
he was he actually holding my hand the whole show.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the
brown note?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
The brown note is a note that all basis let's
know about, and that is a particular note. If your
amp is set up just right, that can cause people
to poop themselves.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
But the other thing they had at the sphere, and
I was thinking about this because there is an article
in the Wall Street Journal. We'll talk about this on
the radiation. Stop giggling.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Look, Katie, the audience does not responding. They're a bad audience.
You know what, you as the bass player, you're in
charge of punishing them.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I just from you, I expect more, Joe.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
See, that's that's what's so delightful about me. You know,
so many colors, so many different levels of humor.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Before I move on to the AI thing, back to
the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and I was
trying to decide how I'm going to talk about this
so I don't get myself in trouble with various groups.
I'm not going to mention the group. But it became
clear to me that culturally, and this is another country
because they don't speak English, culturally some people just talk
through shows. Because they were all from a certain area
(33:02):
of the world, and they just talked through the entire show,
and I was giving them the look, but they were
just so engrossed and out loud like regular voice, not
even whispering like regular voice conversation, that I thought, this
is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't a wow, This
isn't a couple of rude people who need to be
reminded to be quiet. They come from a part of
(33:24):
the world where you just talk through shows. I guess,
so in these parts of the world that I won't
mention because I don't want to get in trouble. If
you go to a movie theater, is everybody just sitting
there talking out loud through the whole movie, because that's
why it was happening here.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You think he's gonna kiss her. I keep expecting her
to kiss her. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought
process prior to telling him to shut the hell up.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't
speak English. But yeah, a couple of young couple sitting
beside me, and then a couple of older people behind me,
all from similar part of the world, and they just
talked fully out loud the whole show, even to like
super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything like that. Just
do bl blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States,
we were quiet during shows.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Some might say, respectful of other people's experience. You know,
I totally get why you did what you did. It
sounds super cool. You got kids, they need to have
experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. They have
been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy and
I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds,
and I am.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So happy that that's what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yes, I was spectacle at all the I was actually
thinking watching this thing at the sphere. I'm not sure
while why anybody would ever need to go anywhere or
do anything ever again, if this becomes normal. It was
the the clarity of the eighteen K screen, the sound
and all encompassing. I don't know why I would need
(34:55):
to walk inside one of those great big cathedrals in Europe.
I had the full I've been to one, so I
don't have smello vision yet. This is the first time
I've ever had the awe feeling that you get from
doing things in person from a screen, and I thought,
I think they finally replicated the in person experience for
(35:16):
seeing a sunset being on the ocean.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
What interesting Now.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You don't taste things normally, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Which I think has to do with Zerer old factory
center in your brain or something like that. I disagree.
You've got to have the smell. You've got to have
the humidity. You've got to have the feeling of the
air in a place interesting to really experience it. Anyway,
so I read the lustiness of an old church, even
(35:50):
the musty, Yes, the smell of the hymnals. Thanks, you
get pretty musty after a session.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Back, am I talking in this voice? I don't know.
I'm going to ignore that attempted humor.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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More Thing. Find out wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Douglas Murray gave a speech in Paris recently talking about
Israel and Hamas and anti Semitism. We have divided a
substantial part of it into four cuts. We can discuss
in between as desired. Michael, We're starting with ninety there.
We should have gotten ready for that, and we'll go
from there.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hit it.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I've spent most of the months since the seventh October
in Israel and Gaza and have seen as much of
the conflicts I think it's possible for.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Non combatant to see.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I've mean, I went to all of the massacre sites
when they were still fresh. I have spent a lot
of time with the survivors, the families of the hostages.
I've been in the morgues of Tel Aviv where they're
still trying to identify the dead. One young man's body
was only identified yesterday. And think what it takes what
(01:27):
you have to do to a man to make his
body unidentifiable for eight months.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
This is more than just a recitation of horror. He's
working toward greater points. But roll on, Michael.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
One of the things that struck me most after the
seventh October was I was at one of the reunions
of the Nova Party, and these are all young people
who'd seen their friends raped and murdered in front of them.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
One young man, a.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Survivor, showed me footage from his phone, and it included
footage of a young friend of his who didn't make
it into his car and was lynched by a mob
immediately afterwards. This young man, this survivor, said to me,
what would you do if this happened in your country?
(02:16):
And I thought, I didn't say, but it has. It
has happened in my society, in my Europe, in my West.
The scale may be different, but the terrorists are the same.
It happened here in Paris at the butterclar It happened
in Manchester where twenty two young girls were blown up
(02:39):
for the crime of going to a pop concert. It
happened at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The scale was.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Different, But the perpetrators are all the same. They're always
the same people who, whether in Toulouse or Porte de Vassne,
Copenhagen or Mumbai, can never restrain.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Them cells from targeting the Jews.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yet the sympathy of so many people here in New
Europe since the seventh has not been on the side
of the victims, but on the side of the perpetrators.
Too many people mistake the victim for the oppressor, the
underdog for the overdog, and those who fight terrorism with
those who dream of it and bring up their children
(03:24):
to love it from the cradle.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
If you're not familiar with that list of four Mumbai
among them, those are all notable terrible, deadly attacks by
Islami fascists, Islamic supremacists, whatever you want to call them,
on innocent people, terrorist attacks, they comment, or shall we
roll on little finish and then I will your next clip.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Consider this.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
In every European capital as well as in America, photographs
of the Israeli hostages still in captivity by Hamaz have
been put up, and in every city outside of Israel
they have been torn down.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Think about that for a moment.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
If someone in London or Paris loses their dog, they
will put up a poster asking people to help find them.
And if even one person in our society went around
tearing down such a poster, we would ask what had
(04:35):
happened in our society. We would ask why we were
producing people so pathological. We would want to find the
person and punish them. Yet, when the missing a Jewish children,
(04:58):
or Jewish women or Jewish men, because there's no crime
in being a man either, these posters are torn down.
One of the relatives of the be Best children held
in captivity told me recently that he saw posters of
his one year old relative torn down in the center
(05:20):
of Dublin.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah. That, uh, that's a stunning point right there. You
have got to be some sort of warped individual, and
apparently there are a lot of them to take down
those posters. Even if you believe all of the nonsense
of the land belonged to the Palestinians and the Jewish
people stole it. Even if you believe all that stuff,
you're still against the Jewish families getting their kids back.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I agree with you one percent.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But there's example after example, just in the last century
of ideology, particularly extremist ideology, warping what seemed like normal
people and turning them into monsters. And often when that
fever and era of history passes, they cannot explain how
they got swept up in it and became monsters.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, I knew it has the way humans are. I
knew what had happened in New York and a number
of our college campuses. I didn't know what happened everywhere
in the world outside of Israel where those posters got
torn down.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That is highly troubling. The brilliant Douglas Murray in the
final clip.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
One other consideration, we have all for years heard the
feminists issue a call on male sexual violence against women.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Believe all women, But where.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Was the solidarity, Where was the sympathy or even belief?
When the women would Jews, the belief evaporates. And I
(06:59):
won't even go into the psycho pathology and suicidalism of
Queers for Palestine, who are a branch of Turkeys for Christmas.
It was Hamaz that started this war, Yet much of
(07:21):
the world has forgotten this. They've been fooled by Hamas
propaganda into imagining that Israel is the aggressor. Having seen
this war up close. I can tell you with one
hundred percent certainty that the war would be over tomorrow,
not just if Hamaz returned the Jewish hostages, but if
the Palestinians in Gaza brought up their children not to hate,
(07:44):
but to love, not to aspire to a cult of death,
but to join Israel in a belief in life, not
to believe in destroying a state, but to put their
into building one.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, that is something that whole believe all woman, me
too thing that obviously the road stopped on that at
Jewish women being raped to death. Yeah, I mean I was.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
We had a clip this morning of that woman screaming
I support Hamas, I am Hamas outside of the White
House over the weekend, and prior to her saying that,
in the clip, she was screaming about all sorts of
other stuff, and one of the things she started screaming
house they didn't there was no rape that didn't happen.
And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this huge
group of people going I wonder how many of them
(08:38):
were out there during the me too rallies. Yeah, because
that's all the same kind of people that go to.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
These protests, all of them, but that that does help
their argument. They don't believe those ripe stories. So okay,
you a final note.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And if you listen to the radio show you are
the armstrung and getting on demand, you're gonna hear this again.
But I just wanted to throw in just a little
bit of what Sam Harris wrote recently. Is another thinker
who I admire even when I don't agree with him.
He provokes my thoughts. But he unleased rather a long
peace about fundamentalist Islam and how it's a political system
(09:15):
and a relentively expansionist political system and totalitarian political system,
and compares it and contrasts it in some ways with Christianity,
which is also expansionist.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But is.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know, the blessed or the meek, for they will
inherit the earth when it's done right. Christianity does not
employ force in any way. And he gets to the
fact that Islam from the first moment was a religion
of power, and to quote him, the idea of non
Muslims ruling over Muslims or even having equivalent power alongside
them perpetually has always been anathema. It's an error to
(09:49):
be rectified through spiritual struggle, sure, but also through physical violence.
The fact that Islam has failed to achieve dominance in
our world and has proven for nearly a thousand years
to be quite backward and weak is a perennial source
of humiliation. By the light of the doctrine, it makes
absolutely no sense. It's a sacrilege. From the point of
view of Islam, the status quo is intolerable, and then
(10:09):
he brings it to what we're talking about, and this
general attitude of affronted dignity, this yearning for victory, which
century after century has been out of reach, affects everything
that Islam touches. It is why the history of peace
negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians has been so hopeless.
Have the Israelis made mistakes, of course, do the Jews
have their own religious fanatics, yes, But the peace process
(10:32):
between the Israelis and the Palestinians has been rendered hopeless
from the start because for a majority of Palestinians and
for the vast numbers of Muslims in the region, the
mere presence of a Jewish state in the Holy Land
is totally unacceptable. It's a knakma, a catastrophe. It is
a perversion of sacred history, and it is an abject
(10:52):
failure of the mission of Islam, which is to conquer
the world for the glory of God and above all,
to never forsake Muslim lands once they have been conquered,
which of course Palestine once was. And then it goes
into some quotes from the Koran which make it clear
that for fundamentalists killing people to achieve their goals is
just hunky dory. But I think the point that Sam
(11:13):
Harris is making is absolutely fundamental to.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
All of this.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They can't come to a settlement with Israel and reach
a two state solution. They want a one state solution,
even if everybody dies, everybody on both sides. Two state solution.
Please sell your idiot fantasies somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
We're not buying. I'm not buying. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So the question is Secretary of State's over there trying
to work that deal out with Saudi Arabia where we
have some sort of agreement with them like we have
with Japan, where we would come to their aid if
they were attacked, and which Saudi Arabia would love that
because that helps them in that whole battle with Iran.
But Saudi Arabia has to get on board with accepting,
(12:00):
you know, normalizing relationship with Israel. They're saying, and they
won't do that unless one the war ends and two
they commit to a two state solution. But whether or
not they actually mean that or not is an open question,
Like if MBS might be willing to say, yeah, and
you have to commit to us two state solutions sometime,
but doesn't actually enforce.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It right for domestic political consumption, much as Anthony Blanket
is desperate for things to calm down a little bit
for domestic political consumption.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, so that's.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Those are the next steps there.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That'd be a huge deal.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Again, if politics was restricted to people only saying what
they actually meant, that like eighty percent of it would vanish.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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Speaker 3 (12:56):
The whole Like younger people, people in their twenties in
the workplace thing that a number of people have observed
and I've had this experience myself, and they are having
the problem with the level of like familiarity and lack
of And it's hard to say this without sounding like
a but just just like you go into a workplace
(13:21):
where you want to be what the older people are,
but you treat them like peers in a very too
familiar way that didn't exist and throughout my entire career,
and I just had that experience here and now they
are having this person other person's having it at their workplace.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Just like way too much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know, Hey, Bud, how's it going, Hey, what's up dude?
Lack of respect? Yeah, And again it's hard to say
it without sounding like it. But when I started in
various jobs, I didn't talk to the older people that
had the jobs I wanted that way and like suggesting
ways they ought to do things differently and just and
I've met a couple of people mentioned that sort of thing,
(14:01):
and what we were discussing is where that comes from?
Joe and I regularly say, and I never hear anybody
else say this. They didn't raise themselves, but culturally, why
do young people come into the workplace and feel like
they can treat their betters as to their beers. Okay,
I said they're better while you do sound like end
(14:22):
up British. No less, I don't know what the right
term would be, but.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No, I get, I get exactly what you're saying. I
don't know, just off the top of my head. I
think it probably has to do with virtually all of
our experience was actual back in the day, and every
generation would layer a little new lacker details on the
way people act in quotes, come up with variations and
(14:50):
change it a little bit. But now so much of
people's experience is virtual. They're not a product of what
they've experienced in the same way.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know that helped.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, maybe if you're going to go with multi causal,
I can throw out a whole bunch of multi causal
I think. I mean it's the some of the fruits
of the everybody gets a trophy generation, which has been
going on for quite a while now. But true, that's
part of it. The self esteem movement. We went way
too far, too much self esteem is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A miserable failure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You've got way too much self esteem for your age
and where you are, all right, take it down a.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Notch then what you've accomplished. Yeah, you know, more importantly
that and the hold the parenting trend. If I want
to be my kid's friend, not their parent, right.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
You have something, Michael.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Yeah, I'm ashamed to say this, but I watched a
manager reprimand a young reporter and you know, it was
over something very minor, but he basically said, you know,
you need to pick it up.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You need to you know, get with it. You're sitting around.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
And the young reporter looked at HM and said, I'm sorry,
but I've never been talked.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To that way.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I don't know if I can work here. And this
person was like twenty five years old.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, so again getting my monocausal stuff. No teacher can
talk to kids that way. So if your parents aren't
talking you that way, the teachers, the coaches, nobody ever
talks to you in any sort of way that kind
of puts you in your place. And again it makes
me sound like it, but there is a place. There's
a place for children, there's a place for people lower
on the wrung, there's a place. There's there's structure, there's
(16:21):
a hierarchy in life. There just is.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I sure as hell hope there is.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like when I go in for a surgery, you know,
I'm hoping that person did well in medical school, for instance, Yes, Katie.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Well no, I just think about a lot of the
younger people too, have kind of been growing up in
that anti law enforcement generation.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Like they are.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
They don't respect the cops. What's going to make you
think they're going to expect respect? You know, somebody who
might have worked at a company for five years more
than them.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
I think that the lack of respect for law enforcement
kind of trickles down.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I don't actually know. It might just be all of
these things, but I have experienced and it's really off put.
I'm going to try to explain to my kids to
have a different attitude when they go into a workplace
with the people above you with way more experience making
a lot more money than you. How about you watch
and observe as opposed to think your peers they got
(17:17):
something you you might want at some level. I've come
across enough people bringing this up to know what's a thing.
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
Conan O'Brien went to Harvard and was involved in National
Lampoon there and then went on to write for.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The Simpsons and Saturday Night Live and have his own show.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And even with all that success, I think he's more
successful now at age sixty, than he's ever been in
his career. He just sold his podcast De li O
to Serious XM for one hundred and fifty million dollars
and he's got millions of people that tune into his
various works now, so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy.
An interesting thing about his personality that I heard in
(18:20):
an interview I want to bring up, but first, let's
hear a clip of him on The Tonight Show last
night with Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to
The Tonight Show since he got it taken away from
him back in the day.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
This really nice young guy in a white shirt in
a baseball cap starts chatting with me and he's saying,
you know, Conan, and I love the podcast, and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Also I really love the old late night clips. I
watch him all the time, and you.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Know, I also really like the stuff you did with
the Simpsons, and I'm like, he's so nice.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, I'm saying thank you so much. Then we both
go through the TSA thing. He goes through. I go through.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
I collect all my stuff, you know the way you're
kind of distracted. I put my belt on, get my
shoes back on. I turn around, see the guy white
shirt hat, and I go, you know what, let's do selfie?
Do selfie? And the guy okay, let's go your knucklehead
and I get I'm like in a headlock.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, and he does a selfie and just as.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
He's taking it, I look, my guy's over there. This
is just a guy who's also wearing a white.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Shirt in a baseball cat.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Which is pretty eff in common.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
So rewind that story now and see it from his
point of view. He's waiting for his wife to come
through it.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Connor Brian comes through and it's like, heyie, that's.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
What I'm talking about, and told the guy I feel
so but you can delete it, and he was looked
like he was on the fence about deleting it.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
I felt terrible, but I love moments like that where
I'm go right back down to whatever you think you've
achieved in life.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's a guy who thinks I met Conor Obrian. He's
just an insane a hole.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That would be confusing. You're standing there, Connor Brian all
of a sudden shows Upfie, what what?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Okay, that's a great story, Oh Lord, and well told God.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, when was that or does he still do that? Maybe?
I don't know. Yeah, I wonder he doesn't even do
the TSA PreCheck. It's not that expensive, man.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So one thing I wanted to did you so Connan
O'Brien's probably really closer to your era, Katie as being
the big late night came in ours.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, oh yeah, huge.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I love him. I think he's hysterically funny. He is.
He is a funny, funny guy.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I love watching his stuff where he goes out in
the public and just messes with people. He's got a
great series on YouTube where if you just type in Conan,
he has his own channel and it's just all this
stuff of him with like Kevin Hart having the intern
drive and just completely screwing with her the whole time.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's just wonderful.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, and uh what another conn the thing is, Oh,
I've heard Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about
how when Conan So, Conan was a writer there and
a lot of those big stars from Sarah and Live
were there, and then when Conan got his own show,
they were all so excited for him because they all
liked him. And Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlane
all those people went over to somebody's house to watch
(21:31):
his first show because they were all so excited that
he was getting his big shot to be a big deal,
and uh, I need it turned out to be a
big deal. And like I've mentioned a few times, he
just sold his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Too serious after all his success, so good for him.
But even with all that, he was on some buddy
(21:51):
else's show and talking about how and I think this
is true for a lot of people, how no matter
what is happen in his life, he's still the same
guy who was in high school. When in high school
he was a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo
with not very many friends. And he said he's still
that he still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable.
(22:14):
He just he said he doesn't at this point, he's
sixty years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So,
no level of crowds, cheering, money, success, anything has changed
to he was in high school, and even without the
crowd's money and everything like that, I feel the same
way too. So why is who we were in high
school baked into who we are for the rest of
(22:35):
our lives.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Whose cruel trick was that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,
it just didn't matter. Life was so completely different for
the first ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine
percent of mankind's existence.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It was you know, all.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Right, look, you're you're of breeding age, you're a fighting age,
you're of tracking down a mastadon, putting a spirit an age.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Let's get this done.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
When you're going to be dead by age twenty four
most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, we're searching for yourself at age forty eight as
a cave man.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well that's a rarity.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I just don't know who I am.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I've seen it work both ways too.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I've known a few people that were big deals in
high school and adult life has not worked out for
them that well, but they still see themselves as the
big deal, and it just it's kind of weird to
be around, you know.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I mean, you don't I look that great for you?
But no, okay, good for you. Well, I still got
the nose in the air. Congrats looking good.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
But it makes it hard to feel bad for them, though.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right right, right, right, Yeah, I don't Yeah, I suppose,
so I don't recall running into anybody who really answered
to that description recently, but yeah, I don't know. I
think I would pity them all the more. But again
I haven't brushed up against them, so I don't know.
But getting back to the whole cave man thing. So
I guess, you know, typical if you're gonna have like
a midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what am
(24:07):
I doing? Why am I doing this? Is this how
I want to spend the rest of my life? It'd
be like at age seventeen as a caveman, right right,
all of this eating meat and sitting around a fire.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And I wonder if that's the biggest problem, if that's
the biggest problem modern humans have, is our brains and
consciousness just was not designed to go past like hardly
past age twenty breed, win a battle, die next right, right?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And I'd imagine if you if there were scientists fifty
thousand years ago, if you were to say to them,
what do you suppose happens to the brain around age eighty?
They would say, what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Why do you care? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Are you going to become disillusioned with life at age
forty five?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Forty five? Who do you know is forty five?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so,
what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on
my leg.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if
Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome, you.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Ain't getting rid of yours either, no matter what you achieve.
That's what I learned.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know I became aware that. Well,
I suppose I can go ahead and say it. My daughter,
like so many of us, has a bit of that.
And we are touring law school the other day, and
the two fabulous young women who were taking us around
on the tour admitted to flaming imposters syndrome, and they're
(25:44):
so sweet. They said, everybody has it. Everybody has it,
don't worry about it. You can do this, You'll be fine.
And it was great, and I think more people need
to know that. I tried to teach my kids that,
you know that feeling your big successful dad has it
every day every day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Fake it till you make it seriously. But it's hard
to convince people. They think, Oh, you're just saying that
to make me feel better.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton
elected president, and he was talking about what was like
to be at the White House and walk in there
every single day, and he said, if you don't walk
into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's
something seriously wrong with you, because everybody feels like I
can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Why am I here? Of all people? Me right right?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I am not good enough for this, I am not
important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,
Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Hi, Tom, did you see the game last night?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So I bet again kind of getting to the other
side of it. I feel like I have known some
people who don't seem like they've ever had any self
doubt one second in their lives. And are they just
pulling it off really well or are they actually not
ever have.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Any self doubt?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think those people probably exist, Katie, your your opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I just think don't think there are many.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I feel like, if you hmm, I feel like I'm
probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a
natural thing for someone to feel.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Would guess eighty percent of the people you perceive are
that way are faking it, and maybe twenty percent of
those people actually have whatever genetic gift it is to be,
you know, super comfortable and.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No impostor syndrome.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I you know, I didn't really have it until I
became an adult, and I get I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know your money.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Either, But it's partially because I hadn't achieved anything.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So what would I be an impostor about.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I was just going to say, as I kept running
into things that were increasingly difficult, I would think, oh boy,
I could I could really fail at this? Does anybody
around here realize I could completely fail at this.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I still Katie because I wear a suit to work
most days. I still like walking down the street in
a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say,
what was that guy to wearing a suit for?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's not a suit guy? Who are you trying to
kids about you? Right?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
You?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Just cause you could tell by looking at me. That's
like a guy who wears a suit kind of act.
Is that Hey, you think he borrowed that suit or
stay or something. Let's try to impress Look at the
dip in the suit is trying the kid?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right exactly? That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
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Speaker 2 (28:40):
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Speaker 4 (28:43):
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Speaker 3 (28:48):
But I mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went
to the magician and how he was working too sexy
for a show with lots of kids. There lots of
kids younger than my kids. Of course the younger kids
didn't get some of the jokes. But like he asked
a dad, stand up, sir, see here, you're your wife
and your kids. When's the last time you and your
(29:08):
wife had.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Sex in front of their kids? Wait what okay?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And the last time you had it? So seven days ago?
He writes down the number seven for the trick, and
last time he had sex? How long did the session last?
And Dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that
question in front of my kids. It's weird.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I'm gonna starting sex the session from now on.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
An exam for a session, honey, a fantastic session. Maybe
the rich old bastard just figures I got one act.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I actually told my kids that it was a thing
with aging. Sometimes when people get old, they just kind
of lose track of what's appropriate and what's not. Because
that's true, right, and I think he might be there.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You'd think some of the world's most famous performers would
have figured that out by now, or had people.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
He's hell. He's hell old. The thing that made me
laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show.
It's inappropriate. And I know some of you don't like
this language, but so part of the deal he was
he made this. It's a long drawn out story but
he's got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever,
and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden,
(30:20):
we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden,
a spaceship appears and it's floating around. He said, look
at that a spaceship. That made me laugh really. Oh
but anyway, so the other thing we did was we
went to the Sphere and that's the great big giant
(30:41):
ball if you haven't heard anything about it. It got
a lot of attention when it first opened because you
two played there. But it's not just a concert venue.
In fact, I don't think it's primarily going to be
a concert venue. I think it's mostly going to be
like movies and stuff like that. And so we watched
this movie about planet Earth and the Big Bang, and
it was an opportunity to show you oceans and mountains
and desert. And I did get a little bit uh
(31:03):
carsick motion sickness because you're floating around all this stuff
and it's so giant. It's I forget how many.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
K it was eighteen K screen.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this eighteen
K screen and that and the Vertigo of sitting like
at the top of vertical stands.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's like walking up a mountain in one hundred
and seventy thousand speakers and it's really remove it all. Yes,
so that's cool. So when the elephants come stomping through,
the base is like unlike anything you've ever heard before.
I mean even a great concert. The base is just stunning.
And then the seats move too, so you get a
full Like the elephants are stomping through, it's loud and
(31:42):
you're kind of bouncing around. It sort of sounds like
sensory overload.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, And I got a kid with sensory issues, so
he was he actually holding my hand the whole show.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the
brown note?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
The brown note is a note that all basis let's
know about, and that is a particular note. If your
amp is set up just right, that can cause people
to poop themselves.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
But the other thing they had at the sphere, and
I was thinking about this because there is an article
in the Wall Street Journal. We'll talk about this on
the radiation. Stop giggling.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Look, Katie, the audience does not responding. They're a bad audience.
You know what, you as the bass player, you're in
charge of punishing them.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I just from you, I expect more, Joe.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
See, that's that's what's so delightful about me. You know,
so many colors, so many different levels of humor.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Before I move on to the AI thing, back to
the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and I was
trying to decide how I'm going to talk about this
so I don't get myself in trouble with various groups.
I'm not going to mention the group. But it became
clear to me that culturally, and this is another country
because they don't speak English, culturally some people just talk
through shows. Because they were all from a certain area
(33:02):
of the world, and they just talked through the entire show,
and I was giving them the look, but they were
just so engrossed and out loud like regular voice, not
even whispering like regular voice conversation, that I thought, this
is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't a wow, This
isn't a couple of rude people who need to be
reminded to be quiet. They come from a part of
(33:24):
the world where you just talk through shows. I guess,
so in these parts of the world that I won't
mention because I don't want to get in trouble. If
you go to a movie theater, is everybody just sitting
there talking out loud through the whole movie, because that's
why it was happening here.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You think he's gonna kiss her. I keep expecting her
to kiss her. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought
process prior to telling him to shut the hell up.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't
speak English. But yeah, a couple of young couple sitting
beside me, and then a couple of older people behind me,
all from similar part of the world, and they just
talked fully out loud the whole show, even to like
super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything like that. Just
do bl blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States,
we were quiet during shows.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Some might say, respectful of other people's experience. You know,
I totally get why you did what you did. It
sounds super cool. You got kids, they need to have
experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. They have
been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy and
I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds,
and I am.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So happy that that's what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yes, I was spectacle at all the I was actually
thinking watching this thing at the sphere. I'm not sure
while why anybody would ever need to go anywhere or
do anything ever again, if this becomes normal. It was
the the clarity of the eighteen K screen, the sound
and all encompassing. I don't know why I would need
(34:55):
to walk inside one of those great big cathedrals in Europe.
I had the full I've been to one, so I
don't have smello vision yet. This is the first time
I've ever had the awe feeling that you get from
doing things in person from a screen, and I thought,
I think they finally replicated the in person experience for
(35:16):
seeing a sunset being on the ocean.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
What interesting Now.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You don't taste things normally, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Which I think has to do with Zerer old factory
center in your brain or something like that. I disagree.
You've got to have the smell. You've got to have
the humidity. You've got to have the feeling of the
air in a place interesting to really experience it. Anyway,
so I read the lustiness of an old church, even
(35:50):
the musty, Yes, the smell of the hymnals. Thanks, you
get pretty musty after a session.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Back, am I talking in this voice? I don't know.
I'm going to ignore that attempted humor.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
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