July 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Wednesday July 31, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features our other podcast, Armstrong & Getty One More Thing!
- Swedish Death Clearing...
- Burning Man Jack Drank Urine...
- CA Lawsuit does PHD = Dr? / Disney Secret Revealed...
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jack Armstrong's Joe, Getty arm Strong and Jetty and He
Armstrong and Getty Strong. Hey, I'm Strong and Geeddy. We're
featuring our podcast One More Thing. Find it wherever you
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
So I came across this in the Washington Post about
Swedish death claiming kind of sort of. It's a variation
on this theme that we've heard from like what's her face?
The Marie Condo lady, remember her? That was all about
you know, hold everything in your hand and if you
don't cherish it, get rid of it. Neatness, your home
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should be neat all the time. Blah blah blah. Then
she had a kid and said, yeah, f this.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, that's the best part of that story is she
was anti clutter and how then then she had kids
and decided, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You can't keep up with us, It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, all that stuff I said before, forget it anyway.
So this story opens up is all stories must with
this lady whose mom passed away, one bedroom apartment, mostly
clean and tidy.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So we thought it'd be manageable. When she passed, we
were wrong. And then they get into the racks and
racks of clothes, many unworn in years, kitchen cabinets stocked,
stacked with pots and plastic storage containers, bulk orders of
tissues and hot sauce. Each item on its own wasn't unreasonable,
but the aggregate proved overwhelming. For several painful weeks, we
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gave things away, sometimes with labels still on them. During
your garage sale, pill carted off thousands of dollars in goods.
We piled the driveway high with stuff, then posted to
buy nothing groups. So I didn't even know that was
a thing. Yeah, I understand like free stuff, but yeah,
that's what it is. It's social media. It's the buy nothing.
It's just basically this is for free, come pick it
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up whatever. Huh And okay, finally we paid a crew
in multiple trucks to pick up the rest. And then
then they go into this reality show that this chick
does the gentle art of Swedish death cleaning, which is
one of the worst titles I've ever heard for any
piece of entertainment ever, but it was inspired by a
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best selling book by this eighty nine year old Swedish
woman who talks about not getting caught up in material things.
You are not your stuff, letting go of the stuff,
not letting it accumulate, and how much how much that
helps you, because clutter is linked to stress and anxiety
and depression, all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I believe that. I hope I am not my stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Looking at my garage, I'm a mess, no examples.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I have just so much crap. Just get a Yeah,
I'm a bit of a hoarder, and it's weird. I
don't think I am you actually you like hordes stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, A bit of a hoarder. I have clothes I
don't wear. I'm probably almost certainly not going to wear,
but I don't get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I feel this, I feel this pain getting rid of them.
I don't. Yeah, I don't think I have that.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I have a There's probably in that big closet full
of clothes, some I do want to keep. I'm not
going to go through them all, so I just keep them. All.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Are those boxes in the garage.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
There's some stuff in there I don't want to throw
out all.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I'll do cleaning and I'll find myself almost feeling an
emotional attachment to maybe the memory that that T shirt has,
like a band T shirt or something from a show,
or I'll get frustrated with myself with a certain item
and going, Kate, you don't need to keep this. It is, yeah,
totally irrelevant, but it was attached to something I did.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
This is probably universal. But the really tough ones are
kids stuff. I mean, you can't keep every clothing item,
every kit you kid ever had, or book or toy,
but god dang it, throwing some of that stuff out
seems like just wrong. How do I get rid of
this book that I read to my kids every night
for years during the greatest moments, But I can't keep
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them all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't need eighty books eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We kept a bunch, you know, assuming nieces and nephews
and grandkids or whatever would be in the picture eventually,
and have given some way to other parents because that
feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The clothes. I see a T shirt and I think, oh,
I remember when Sam would wear this. But I can't
keep all the shirts.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, there are so many memories that they trigger. I
get that, but that's defensible to me. Some shirt that
I'm just not gonna wear probably it's just weird. I
think I've always thought it's probably because you know, I
didn't grow up poor, but we were far from rich,
and you know, I was wearing hand me downs and stuff,
and the idea of a nice new shirt was like
really really cool, And so it's hard for me to
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I don't know anyway, there's a.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And pain in knowing you paid fifty bucks for something
and now it's worthless. That is also something going on
in your brain.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't really that doesn't bother me that much. I
don't think I bought this shirt and while I'm gonna
give it away. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I realized. Then they go.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Into each product we buy on average accounts for roughly
six point three times it's weight in carbon emissions whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I really don't give a shashut off. They had
to go there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah yeah, okay, So onto Swedish death cleaning or durstymings.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't even know what that letter is much less
how to say.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's it's it isn't about clearing out closet. It's about
it's about rethinking your relationships with things rather than making
do with less.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's about getting more from the things that make you happy.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I had a buddy who is so good at this
with clothes, Like when we were in college. I had
a closet full of clothes that I was never gonna
wear again, that had been toting around, and he was good, like,
these are the two pairs of pants I'm gonna wear
this summer. These are the three cool shirts I like?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Is it? He got rid of everything else and he was, Wow,
I wish I could do that.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So death cleaning happens to agree with scientists understanding of
our relationship with things and why we're loath to part
with them. Decades of research have shown that we subconsciously
see our possessions as physical extensions of ourselves. Losing them
feels like an amputation because in our minds it is
we're attached to our belongings because we identify them, says
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researcher in Dublin. This convene into pathologies such as hoarding.
Belonging has become sof fused with a sense of self
that people lose the ability to differentiate between, say, the
value of a saved wedding ring, of saving a wedding
ring or a candy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Wrapper Wow, now that's pathological.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Instead of our possessions offering quote a vital receptacle for
our memories and identities, researchers say they become a fortress,
physical barriers to ward off.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Feelings of insecurity and loneliness. Wow, yes, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't doubt some of this. I think my problem
is mostly laziness. It's well or not laziness. Some laziness. Well,
you're crazy busy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I'm too busy to.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Go through a bunch of boxes in my garage to
see what I want to throw out or not.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's what's slowing me down. Have you ever watched the
show Hoarders?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clear line between what we're
talking about and them.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Right, But the way that they their emotions spikes so
much when they do try to get rid of things,
it's it. I mean, that's that's absolutely mental.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
My youngest kid has a little bit of that. He's
definitely got more of that than than is good. He
just all his attachment to some things is.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
A little scary. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, I'm glad you're all enjoying this as I psychoanalyze
myself because this is crazy. His research, this is the
guy we decided earlier shows that materialism, a tendency to
seek out possessions for status or approval, is unequivocally associated
with more loneliness and less happiness. But not all possessions
are equal. Things required for their beauty, utility, or their
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association with positive experiences and social relationships don't show the
same correlation. That's interesting my grandmother's garden if, for example,
for example, every time I hold it, the smooth hickory
handle polish over a half century resurrects blissful childhood hours
spent in her Florida garden, et cetera, et cetera. It's
a good thing to have a few reminders symbolic meaning,
et cetera, et cetera. And I'm willing to bet many
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things in your home, as in mine, are neither useful, beautiful,
nor sentimental. So moving on, how does death cleaning work?
Things that take up space in our minds as well
as our addicts and garages, blah blah. By clarifying what's
important and what's not, you make room. Your loved ones
can receive what you might like before you go. We're
leaving them of the burden of cleaning up once you're gone.
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This might seem hard. Who wants to give their stuff
away right now? But holding on until the very end
or buying still more proves to be the bigger burden.
Sad and morbid is a good description of what it
is like to a massive bunch of stuff and not
really appreciate it. Okay, so start with the easy stuff.
Begin with large or duplicate items first, then finish with
the small and sentimental clothes. They are an excellent place
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to start, since many of them have little practical or
sentimental use. Photographs, personal papers, and letters are the hardest
to clear out.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've got, like my sock drawer has got.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know how many pairs of socks are in there,
thirty pairs of socks I wear the same, ten pair
on top the bottom twenty pair I never wear, and
I am never going to wear because of the style
or color or the worn out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Why don't I throw those out?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I have enough socks, including the other day, I was
asking Jack about what length socks somebody was wearing, and
you reacted as if I was some sort of suck
connoisseur to have different lengths.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You're a sock samall, Ye, yeah, in a way.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, So I've got the no shows, I've got the ankle,
I've got the mid calf, et cetera. I have enough
socks that if our washing machine broke down, never mind
that if it were outlawed, I would not have to
wear a dirty pair of socks for.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Three and a half months. That's a lot of socks.
Maybe more, that'd be a hundred pair of socks something
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Wow, that's a lot of socks. I thought I haven't
any multiple drawers with socks.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I got white socks, I got no shows, like to
play golf in to minimize my weird golf ten what
your son charmingly refers to as Morgan feet.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's a good term. Then I have a drawer full.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Of black and like uh black and dark blue athletic socks.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Then I've got my dress socks.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Then I've got my like wooly winter socks for when
we had our mountain place being up in the snow
a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We aren't anymore. Yeah, I have I have enough socks
to wear for me months.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Gosh, getting those to match up when doing the laundry
must just be infuriating.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All socks.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, except you know, as Jack indicates, in the space
of two weeks, I wear two weeks worth of socks.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So it's not that many. And again it's inexplicable to
have as many socks as I have since we have
a functioning washer and dryer. Are you emotionally attached to them? No? No,
it's like good because I would be weird. That would
be very weird. No, there sucks. I'm not crazy, but
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there is a weird. It's a difficult impulse to explain.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's like an I might need this, or I might
wish I had this, and I don't know where it
comes from. Again, I did not grow up in North Korea.
I did not fight my brother to the death for
a grain of the rice.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Or yeah, I don't. I don't know. I honestly don't
understand it. Hey, when you match up your socks, you
do what I do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And if the colors are close enough, you know, if
they're dark blue or you know, black, do you just.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Put them together? No, I'm not, because I'm not a psychopath.
That's fair. No, I mean usually I do the exact
same color.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But if they're you know, they've been one's been washed
more than the other one looks a little lighter than
you would, one.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Get washed more than the other.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, you're talking nonsense. What you're doing is putting mismatch
socks together and calling them a match.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
All right. It's like I won't call a man a woman.
I will not call a navy blue sock a black sock,
because I'm not a liar. How many bodies dissolving?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And how many barrels do you have in your garage,
because that's the work of a psychopath putting mismatch socks together. Boy,
But so the whatever the weird name is of this
thing you're talking about, the death cleaning or whatever, is
it basically the idea that you got to be ruthless
and just get rid of stuff you don't mean Hmmm, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Not ruthless exactly. They talk about. God, I would love
to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's so relaxing for me to even think about doing that,
like getting rid of all the stuff in my closet.
I never wear everything in the drawers, I don't use anymore,
everything in the closets that we never use. Oh, it
just oh, it fills me with relaxation, happy chemicals.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yet I'm not I would agree.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I would agree, but I do do it, and it's
an excuse to go buy new stuff. And they suggest
it's not being ruthless, it's being thoughtful before bringing something
into my home. I now think about it's fate. This
person writes, how will I feel living with it? Will
someone else ever want it? Is it worth it? By
recognizing the stories I tell about my stuff, it has
made it easier to let go of old things or
avoid buying new ones without losing a bit of myself.
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I so need a shrink. Or wait a minute, no,
you go to a shrink. All they do is give
you drugs. So I so need drugs. It's Jack Armstrong
and Joey Armstrong and Getty Show. It's The Armstrong Show
featuring our podcast One More Thing. Download it, subscribe to
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it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So as a big hippie festival in middle of nowhere, Nevada.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know that it's a hippie festival.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's a festival of living outside the riggers and bounds
of everyday society, a chance to cut loose a little
bit and relax in the desert with like minded fellows
and gals.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
None of us have been, so you haven't been, Katie,
I have not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I wanted to go, but I've never made it. Michael,
if I remember correctly, you'd never been to San Diego
until fairly recently, so I don't think you've been nourning.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Man's cut out of the question. I've been to the beach,
but that's about it. I must stand up.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Seeing I don't even like most camping because as a
man who enjoys a cocktail before bed and buy a cocktail, well,
I always have to get up and p in the
middle of the night, and I'm afraid of being eaten
by a bear.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I didn't know where you're going with that. I was
gonna say, you enjoy cocktails, you don't like camping. Camping
is always super heavy on the drinking. You start like
really early and go all that. That's like the whole
camping thing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, right of my camping.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I needed to embrace the jug, but the p jug.
But most of my camping experience was with my wife
and kids, and that just didn't seem to be a.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Good idea peeing and a jug.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, but I remain uneaten by bears, So I guess
it worked out all right.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Husband peede and a jug left it in my car
found it this weekend. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh you guys, now, TMI really, TMO, Well, this is
a perfect place to tell this story. I got two
good stories around this.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So one, I'm driving from Charlotte, North Carolina to Nashville
to catch a concert and I don't and I'm running
kind of ly and I need to pee and there's
U and I don't want to pull over, and so
I have a gatorade bottle and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna pee in the gatorade bottle while I'm driving.
And what I learned is the volume of urine that
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comes out of you is a lot more than you
think it is, because the gatorade bottle filled up like that.
And then it was just he going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It was horrible. Sharm make story. It's a shame. It's over.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So then the other story is this my poor son
with his anxiety problems. He went through a boy a
year or two period where he had to pee like
every thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Poor LiH. It was horrible. I'm so glad that's not
the case anymore, because I remember how difficult that was. Horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We had pads all around the house. He was a
pretty little kid, pads all over the house. Could just
from nervousness. He'd just have to pee and so it's
just anyway. So he I'd carry a bottle water bottles
just like you drink out of in the car, and
he'd pee in the water bottle all the time because
I can't pull over every time. He needs a pea
literally like every minute sometimes, so he can't go anywhere.
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So I had a you know, I'm I I'm driving
to work one morning, and I grabbed my water bottle
and take a swig, and no.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I thought that first story was terrible. And I took
the big old gulp of old salty. Oh, good morning, man.
That was rough.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
When it as soon as it took me like a
half a second to realize, you know, you get hit
with this isn't water. Then oh, I know what it is,
and then just the revulsion at what it was. We're
all feeling it right now. Got it took me a
long time to stop spitting and rinsing out my mouth
after that.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
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Speaker 3 (17:39):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
Story out of California.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I guess this is a problem in a number of
different states, but this particular lawsuit is in California. If
you're a nurse, or you work at a hospital, for instance,
in any capacity, really, but you had your PhD, do
you get to call yourself doctor so and so? If
I have a PhD in history but I work at
a hospital, yes, do I get to call myself doctor
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Jack Armstrong? Yes, Well, apparently you can't, and a lot
of states that's against the law. It's not as clear
in California. And this woman who is told not to
call herself doctor anymore, she's a nurse, but she introduces
herself as doctor so and so and has that on
our little tag and signs things that way.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It confuses the patients, obviously, and she is told not
to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
She is suing saying, you know, hey, I worked really
hard to spend a lot of money. I got this degree,
this is the title. I get to call myself this.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So they're trying.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I would suggest that the further it is from medical
science or science at all, the more enthusiastic.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I am about this idea.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You have a PhD in women's studies, you ought to
call yourself doctor in the hospital and walk into patients
rooms and they say, doctor, I don't know if this
drug is working.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You say, well, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't know anything about medicine, and then walk out
again and leave them wondering.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What the hell is going on here?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But I can tell you about Napoleon's loss at Waterloo
because that's what I have my PhD.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Wow, the whole I got a PhD. So I you
got to call me doctor.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know I've known a few. Uh, well, I've known
quite a few people with PhDs, but uh.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I've only known a few that really trotted out a lot.
Usually it's only when it's contextually makes sense, like if, uh,
you know, if you're if you're having a meeting about
business and you got somebody there who's got a PhD
in business to introduce them as doctor so and so
went to Stanford, that's think that's perfectly fine, that's stretch man,
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But that's not even necessary. But they just like regularly
casual you're out for dinner and you introduce yourself as
doctor so and so.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Eh, come on, well, how about freaking doctor Jill Biden?
Exactly what I was think.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
She's got a PhD in library or something, library science
or whatever it is English.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I've had more acquaintances or friends that actually kind of
hide the fact that they have a PhD unless it
like really comes up in conversation, and you would kind
of get into a weird territory to not mention it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
They don't mention it because of the way it comes off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So this particular woman who's suing California to be able
to call herself doctor says she always tells patients as
a nurse when she goes in there and they say, oh, hi,
doctor Janine, I have her name here, but it doesn't matter,
And she says, I'm not a medical doctor. Have my
PhD in something else. My first thought would be, then,
why do you call yourself doctor in a freaking hospital?
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Wouldn't that be your first thought? Yeah, I don't know,
I don't know. See, you know what you're doing pretending
you don't know what you're doing walking around a hospital
with a bad just's doctor so and so on it
I can't remember, did you tell us what her PhD?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is in.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm only mildly interested. I just had that in front
of you. I don't remember. I'm just curious how ridiculous
it is. What about DJs who referred to themselves as
doctors may be allowed to identify themselves thusly in a
hospital doctor Johnny Fever. I have spinned or spun many
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platters to get this nickname.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I deserve credit for it. She has a doctorate of
nursing practice, whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, that's funny. I'm a doctor of nursing. That's weird.
I'm a nursing of doctor. You want to go out
sometimes anyway? Wow, I would just say this if you
have a PhD. And you probably know this.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Most people, I think the vast majority of people kind
of roll the rod if you introduce yourself as doctor
so and so, or your wife does, her husband does
or whatever?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
All right, I think most people do. They make fun
of you after you leave. Certainly, I like what Joe said.
She basically has this.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
She has a doctorate and it's the highest level of
nurse training, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So she's doctor nurse?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, are you someone who can fix my knee or
take out my gall bladder?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, well, then shot at I agree with you, Katie.
Woman sounds annoying. I'm a doctor of nursing. That's so funny.
I'm trying to think, is there anything like, uh, anything
similar to that. I don't know. It is a pretty
un doctor of nursing.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It'd be like I'm an engineer of Now, there's nothing analogous.
I don't think so, because a nurse is kind of
sort of an assistant to doctors.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm the president of vice Presidents. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
I'm the president of the Vice President's Association.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I don't know that that's something I would walk around
pointing out every day. That's why I think she's obnoxious.
What is you know, what good is she doing herself
or anyone else she encounters.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So you're super well educated in your profession. Good for you.
Go out and prove it. That's fine. I'm the captain
of the second Mate's division. So moving on to Disney.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I haven't heard what this is, but it's labeled as
the Secrets of Disney World.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I've never been to Disney World. Maybe i'll learn something here.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
One a Magic Kingdom, all cast members are empowered to
create magical moments. These are designed for. If you see
a kid lose their turkey leg to a seagull, you
can go get them a brand new one for free.
Have you ever seen a janitor and move stash through
the park. The answer is no, that would destroy the magic.
Every trash can that you see is not actually a
trash can, but a shoot that goes directly into Disney's
trash compactor system called the Utilidor nobody throws up at
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Disney World, that's gross. They have protein spills and every
cast member has protein spill powder. You throw it on
top of the throw up, it drives it up, and
the janitor will come and clean it up a few
minutes later. I would have to call Chop Protective Services,
the police, and Disney management at least once a month
while working at Space Mountain. Why their parents thought it
would be a great idea to wait a two and
a half hour line to get onto Space Mountain and
(24:20):
leave their kid out front. Well, by the time they
get off that ride, the police greet them and no
one mes happy and it's not very magical.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Wow. So a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
One, I think we need to start editing TikTok clips
to put space between thoughts. I understand why they do
it on TikTok, But for me my mind, I get
interested in something and then you hit with me with
something else, and.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, I get to do that for me like a beat.
So you've got boomer brain. Maybe I have a boomer brain.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean because TikTok's the most successful thing and ever.
I guess young people can handle that. But I get
I hear it, like, well that's and then they're on
to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So you don't see janitors going to empty the garbage bins,
which is kind of gross because it goes.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Down into a shoot.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, interesting they call vomiting protein spills, and every
cast member has the powder, got a utility belt like Batman,
right ready to throw a little powder on the protein
spill immediately a little puke powder. And then there were
a couple other things in there. I wanted to comment them,
but my boomer brain couldn't comprehend them because it was
(25:28):
coming at me so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, you have the people leaving their kid to fend
for themselves, their little kid as they wait two and
a half hours for ride, just sit there on the bench, Jenny,
I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I did wait with my kids for I think two
and a half hours for the Mario Ride at Nintendo
Land or whatever that thing is called. Is that what
it's called, Nintendo Land. I don't even know what, No clue,
Universal Studios, Nintendo World. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the Mario Ride,
which it had just opened, and it was like the
hottest thing going, and it amazing goes half your day, right, yeah,
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it's a lot of your day, but that's why we went.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
The reason we went was to ride that ride.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So and it was all thirty year olds, right, A
lot of thirty year olds in costume. A lot of
thirty year olds by themselves in costume. Oh that I
don't get.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, it makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But I would say that it was the quickest moving
two and a half hours I've ever done in my life.
I mean, I don't think I stood for more than
a few seconds. You're kind of constantly shuffling or walking.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And usually in the Disney style, and this was their genius.
You come across something interesting and entertaining as you're waiting.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, you walk through the castle, so you'd go up
these stairs around a corner, and then you're in a
room and there's a couple of things to look at.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And then you go down this stair and corner, Hey.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
There's something interesting. So I went by fairly quickly. I
don't know whoever invented that. That was very cleverly. I
understood psycholog in an amazing way. But I don't know
that i'd ever do it again. My one kid said
it was absolutely worth it, and my other kid said
he was a teenager. Of course, nothing's worth it to him,
right my definition as a teenager, nothing's cool, nothing's worth it.
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Speaker 1 (27:52):
I angered some people by not taking Nicky Hailey seriously
enough or something. I feel like I've taken a fairly
seriously from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But I can vouch for that he has. Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
But I guess if you don't do it every single time,
and somebody only hears one comment, like me commenting on
her dress today, I feel like that's the only thing
I've ever thought about her. She was wearing a red dress,
and I said, man, that's some nice dress. In defense
of Jack, red is a bold color for a politician
to wear.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It is. If you wear a bright red dress, I
assume you're trying to some attention to yourself. But isn't
there some.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Uh forbidding of doing that in the Book of Leviticus
or something like that, wearing a red dress.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But this person went on to say, if a man
made a speech wearing a red suit, I'll bet you
would have mentioned that first as well. And then the
women get that you have all the options for all
these different clothes you can wear. If Mitt Romney came
out in a bright red suit, I mean, the first
thing anybody said, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Like he's sinbad or something.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yes, for instance, a professional pool player or something out.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's always struck me.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You see the Senate Chamber or the House chamber, and
you have every single guy in a dark suit, a
white or light blue shirt, and a red or blue tie,
every single damn one of them. And then you've got
the many colors of the rainbow of the coals. They're
wearing white and yellow and red and blue and whatever
they want.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Dresses, pants, suits, brooches, no brooches. You got all the
options to you if you're a woman, Katie, but only
of course, the downside is, I know I've heard women
say this before, is I got to come up with
something to wear where you get to just throw on
a suit and always call yourself dressed up correct, which
is handy.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, absolutely well, especially because it's also simpler. You have
your your pants, your shirt, your jacket, which is what
you guys wear usually.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Anyway, I wear a suit to work most every day,
and it is it is. It is easier than dressing
casual to wear a suit. Oh yeah, absolutely true. If
you have two suits, you've covered it. If you have three,
you're trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And the other thing is about suits is you can
gain five pounds lose five pounds.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They fit fine.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I got four suits. I rotate a bunch of
dress shirts. It's super easy to dress. But if I
was trying to dress up without a suit. That'd take
a lot of money in time.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, dresses are not forgiving, guys. I'll tell you that
those things do not give. Either it fits the way
it did when you bought it or not, yes, or
and it'll never fit that way again.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah. Interesting, I've not had that situation. I haven't tried
on many dresses.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Huh. So.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The CIA has done a lot of wacky things throughout
the years, and a whole bunch of it has been
to classified because after twenty five years or thirty years
or fifty years, there are different rules for different levels
of stuff. Some of this stuff comes out. Some of
this I've heard before. Some of this I'd never like.
All this stuff about the way these ways we tried
to kill fidela Castro I've heard many many times.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh, a classic.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
We actually did try to poison his cigars or have
exploding cigars and kill him, or at least considered it.
And a bunch of other stuff. Some of this new
stuff I had not heard. The Osama bin Laden demon toy.
The plan after nine eleven was going to make figurines
that looked like Osama bin Laden and give them to
kids in South Asia. After being left in the sun
for a certain amount of time, its face would peel
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off to reveal a demon like vision with red skin,
green eyes, and black markings. The objective was to scare
kids on their parents, so Ben Laden al Qaida would
lose support points for creativity.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Geez, how about a stick with me?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Now? How about a melting faced demon figurine?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Sounds like they were on some bad acid. Yeah, wow,
there are no bad ideas, Joe. Let's go with the
Osama bin laden demon face. This one's from the Cold War,
but I don't think i'd heard this one before. The
Cold War. Condom drop plan, CIA operatives drew up a
plan to have packets of extra large condoms labeled small
(31:53):
dropped on the USSR.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The idea was to lower their morale. That would work.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Wow, I can't this small condoms still way too big
for me. Wow, my must be tiny compared to the West.
You know what, this tiny? I see no reason to
fight for the Motherland. If I had a giant, I
would lay down my life gladly for this correct till
the end. Yes, But with this minuscule I am just
(32:23):
going home right.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is a devilish plan. It's hilarious. Wow, the acoustic kitty.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They basically put a microphone in a radio and a
cat and released it in the Soviet embassy to wander
around eavesdropping since nobody suspects a wandering cat.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Wow, Wow, poor cat.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
All of these ideas just sound like somebody was really high.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
To me, they really do. Dude.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
What if you're to like, put a microphone up a
cat and then turn it loose because nobody's going to
think of cats most What if the cat spy pooped
out the mic, Dude, then it totally be busted.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
What are they gonna do? Question the cat man? Most
cat evert.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Most places of work I've been in, you just don't
ignore wandering straight cats in the hallways.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh it's a different time, another straight cat.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Anyway, Jim as I was saying, the place to attack
the United States is eh, boy, But this is the
one I wanted to get on because it backs up.
I believe Hitler and I agree on one thing, and
that is modern art is bogus.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But modern art as a CIA weapon. Back during the sixties,
the CIA noticed that artists tend to lean towards socialism communism.
They realize The best way to prevent this or discredit
these political positions was to make them wealthy so that
they would be more invested in capitalism. To do this,
the CAA anonymously bought modern art pieces, no matter how nonsensical,
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for very high prices, making a whole bunch of modern
artists rich so they would embrace capitalism. So a lot
of that modern art that got successful and sold was
a CIA plot, not some discerning art collector.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hmmm, that makes the cat like sounds like a really
good idea. I mean, good, lord, really what the wow?
It was like a massive waste of money. I know
it will do. I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What if they just like donated to the Communist Party?
I don't like, that's just that is weak.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
She liked the Cat microphone store better than the big
fan of that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Out by modern art, huge fan.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'm did they give any any specific examples? I mean, like,
was Andy Warhol entirely a product of the CIA's right,
you know, writing checks?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Nobody had any interest in those soup cans except for
the CIA.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Could be I don't know, doesn't say wow, wow, how interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Cat microphone that's your favorite idea? Yea.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
For a number of reasons exactly, of course. The way
they walk around with their tails up in the air,
you could a camera, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yes, yes, when he turns that orde at the camera
at the wide angle, well it has to be.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah. I'm here, love, I'm not a cat
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Says the cat wandering around the embassy,
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
So I came across this in the Washington Post about
Swedish death claiming kind of sort of. It's a variation
on this theme that we've heard from like what's her face?
The Marie Condo lady, remember her? That was all about
you know, hold everything in your hand and if you
don't cherish it, get rid of it. Neatness, your home
(00:53):
should be neat all the time. Blah blah blah. Then
she had a kid and said, yeah, f this.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, that's the best part of that story is she
was anti clutter and how then then she had kids
and decided, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You can't keep up with us, It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, all that stuff I said before, forget it anyway.
So this story opens up is all stories must with
this lady whose mom passed away, one bedroom apartment, mostly
clean and tidy.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So we thought it'd be manageable. When she passed, we
were wrong. And then they get into the racks and
racks of clothes, many unworn in years, kitchen cabinets stocked,
stacked with pots and plastic storage containers, bulk orders of
tissues and hot sauce. Each item on its own wasn't unreasonable,
but the aggregate proved overwhelming. For several painful weeks, we
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gave things away, sometimes with labels still on them. During
your garage sale, pill carted off thousands of dollars in goods.
We piled the driveway high with stuff, then posted to
buy nothing groups. So I didn't even know that was
a thing. Yeah, I understand like free stuff, but yeah,
that's what it is. It's social media. It's the buy nothing.
It's just basically this is for free, come pick it
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up whatever. Huh And okay, finally we paid a crew
in multiple trucks to pick up the rest. And then
then they go into this reality show that this chick
does the gentle art of Swedish death cleaning, which is
one of the worst titles I've ever heard for any
piece of entertainment ever, but it was inspired by a
(02:21):
best selling book by this eighty nine year old Swedish
woman who talks about not getting caught up in material things.
You are not your stuff, letting go of the stuff,
not letting it accumulate, and how much how much that
helps you, because clutter is linked to stress and anxiety
and depression, all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I believe that. I hope I am not my stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Looking at my garage, I'm a mess, no examples.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I have just so much crap. Just get a Yeah,
I'm a bit of a hoarder, and it's weird. I
don't think I am you actually you like hordes stuff?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, A bit of a hoarder. I have clothes I
don't wear. I'm probably almost certainly not going to wear,
but I don't get rid of them.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I feel this, I feel this pain getting rid of them.
I don't. Yeah, I don't think I have that.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I have a There's probably in that big closet full
of clothes, some I do want to keep. I'm not
going to go through them all, so I just keep them. All.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Are those boxes in the garage.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
There's some stuff in there I don't want to throw
out all.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I'll do cleaning and I'll find myself almost feeling an
emotional attachment to maybe the memory that that T shirt has,
like a band T shirt or something from a show,
or I'll get frustrated with myself with a certain item
and going, Kate, you don't need to keep this. It is, yeah,
totally irrelevant, but it was attached to something I did.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
This is probably universal. But the really tough ones are
kids stuff. I mean, you can't keep every clothing item,
every kit you kid ever had, or book or toy,
but god dang it, throwing some of that stuff out
seems like just wrong. How do I get rid of
this book that I read to my kids every night
for years during the greatest moments, But I can't keep
(04:18):
them all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't need eighty books eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We kept a bunch, you know, assuming nieces and nephews
and grandkids or whatever would be in the picture eventually,
and have given some way to other parents because that
feels good.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The clothes. I see a T shirt and I think, oh,
I remember when Sam would wear this. But I can't
keep all the shirts.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, there are so many memories that they trigger. I
get that, but that's defensible to me. Some shirt that
I'm just not gonna wear probably it's just weird. I
think I've always thought it's probably because you know, I
didn't grow up poor, but we were far from rich,
and you know, I was wearing hand me downs and stuff,
and the idea of a nice new shirt was like
really really cool, And so it's hard for me to
(05:01):
I don't know anyway, there's a.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And pain in knowing you paid fifty bucks for something
and now it's worthless. That is also something going on
in your brain.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't really that doesn't bother me that much. I
don't think I bought this shirt and while I'm gonna
give it away. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I realized. Then they go.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Into each product we buy on average accounts for roughly
six point three times it's weight in carbon emissions whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I really don't give a shashut off. They had
to go there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah yeah, okay, So onto Swedish death cleaning or durstymings.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't even know what that letter is much less
how to say.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's it's it isn't about clearing out closet. It's about
it's about rethinking your relationships with things rather than making
do with less.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's about getting more from the things that make you happy.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I had a buddy who is so good at this
with clothes, Like when we were in college. I had
a closet full of clothes that I was never gonna
wear again, that had been toting around, and he was good, like,
these are the two pairs of pants I'm gonna wear
this summer. These are the three cool shirts I like?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Is it? He got rid of everything else and he was, Wow,
I wish I could do that.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So death cleaning happens to agree with scientists understanding of
our relationship with things and why we're loath to part
with them. Decades of research have shown that we subconsciously
see our possessions as physical extensions of ourselves. Losing them
feels like an amputation because in our minds it is
we're attached to our belongings because we identify them, says
(06:33):
researcher in Dublin. This convene into pathologies such as hoarding.
Belonging has become sof fused with a sense of self
that people lose the ability to differentiate between, say, the
value of a saved wedding ring, of saving a wedding
ring or a candy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Wrapper Wow, now that's pathological.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Instead of our possessions offering quote a vital receptacle for
our memories and identities, researchers say they become a fortress,
physical barriers to ward off.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Feelings of insecurity and loneliness. Wow, yes, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't doubt some of this. I think my problem
is mostly laziness. It's well or not laziness. Some laziness. Well,
you're crazy busy.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, I'm too busy to.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Go through a bunch of boxes in my garage to
see what I want to throw out or not.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's what's slowing me down. Have you ever watched the
show Hoarders?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clear line between what we're
talking about and them.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Right, But the way that they their emotions spikes so
much when they do try to get rid of things,
it's it. I mean, that's that's absolutely mental.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
My youngest kid has a little bit of that. He's
definitely got more of that than than is good. He
just all his attachment to some things is.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
A little scary. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, I'm glad you're all enjoying this as I psychoanalyze
myself because this is crazy. His research, this is the
guy we decided earlier shows that materialism, a tendency to
seek out possessions for status or approval, is unequivocally associated
with more loneliness and less happiness. But not all possessions
are equal. Things required for their beauty, utility, or their
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association with positive experiences and social relationships don't show the
same correlation. That's interesting my grandmother's garden if, for example,
for example, every time I hold it, the smooth hickory
handle polish over a half century resurrects blissful childhood hours
spent in her Florida garden, et cetera, et cetera. It's
a good thing to have a few reminders symbolic meaning,
et cetera, et cetera. And I'm willing to bet many
(08:35):
things in your home, as in mine, are neither useful, beautiful,
nor sentimental. So moving on, how does death cleaning work?
Things that take up space in our minds as well
as our addicts and garages, blah blah. By clarifying what's
important and what's not, you make room. Your loved ones
can receive what you might like before you go. We're
leaving them of the burden of cleaning up once you're gone.
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This might seem hard. Who wants to give their stuff
away right now? But holding on until the very end
or buying still more proves to be the bigger burden.
Sad and morbid is a good description of what it
is like to a massive bunch of stuff and not
really appreciate it. Okay, so start with the easy stuff.
Begin with large or duplicate items first, then finish with
the small and sentimental clothes. They are an excellent place
(09:19):
to start, since many of them have little practical or
sentimental use. Photographs, personal papers, and letters are the hardest
to clear out.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've got, like my sock drawer has got.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know how many pairs of socks are in there,
thirty pairs of socks I wear the same, ten pair
on top the bottom twenty pair I never wear, and
I am never going to wear because of the style
or color or the worn out or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Why don't I throw those out?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I have enough socks, including the other day, I was
asking Jack about what length socks somebody was wearing, and
you reacted as if I was some sort of suck
connoisseur to have different lengths.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You're a sock samall, Ye, yeah, in a way.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, So I've got the no shows, I've got the ankle,
I've got the mid calf, et cetera. I have enough
socks that if our washing machine broke down, never mind
that if it were outlawed, I would not have to
wear a dirty pair of socks for.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Three and a half months. That's a lot of socks.
Maybe more, that'd be a hundred pair of socks something
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Wow, that's a lot of socks. I thought I haven't
any multiple drawers with socks.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I got white socks, I got no shows, like to
play golf in to minimize my weird golf ten what
your son charmingly refers to as Morgan feet.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's a good term. Then I have a drawer full.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Of black and like uh black and dark blue athletic socks.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Then I've got my dress socks.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Then I've got my like wooly winter socks for when
we had our mountain place being up in the snow
a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We aren't anymore. Yeah, I have I have enough socks
to wear for me months.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Gosh, getting those to match up when doing the laundry
must just be infuriating.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All socks.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, except you know, as Jack indicates, in the space
of two weeks, I wear two weeks worth of socks.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So it's not that many. And again it's inexplicable to
have as many socks as I have since we have
a functioning washer and dryer. Are you emotionally attached to them? No? No,
it's like good because I would be weird. That would
be very weird. No, there sucks. I'm not crazy, but
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there is a weird. It's a difficult impulse to explain.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's like an I might need this, or I might
wish I had this, and I don't know where it
comes from. Again, I did not grow up in North Korea.
I did not fight my brother to the death for
a grain of the rice.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Or yeah, I don't. I don't know. I honestly don't
understand it. Hey, when you match up your socks, you
do what I do.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And if the colors are close enough, you know, if
they're dark blue or you know, black, do you just.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Put them together? No, I'm not, because I'm not a psychopath.
That's fair. No, I mean usually I do the exact
same color.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But if they're you know, they've been one's been washed
more than the other one looks a little lighter than
you would, one.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Get washed more than the other.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, you're talking nonsense. What you're doing is putting mismatch
socks together and calling them a match.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
All right. It's like I won't call a man a woman.
I will not call a navy blue sock a black sock,
because I'm not a liar. How many bodies dissolving?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And how many barrels do you have in your garage,
because that's the work of a psychopath putting mismatch socks together. Boy,
But so the whatever the weird name is of this
thing you're talking about, the death cleaning or whatever, is
it basically the idea that you got to be ruthless
and just get rid of stuff you don't mean Hmmm, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Not ruthless exactly. They talk about. God, I would love
to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's so relaxing for me to even think about doing that,
like getting rid of all the stuff in my closet.
I never wear everything in the drawers, I don't use anymore,
everything in the closets that we never use. Oh, it
just oh, it fills me with relaxation, happy chemicals.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yet I'm not I would agree.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I would agree, but I do do it, and it's
an excuse to go buy new stuff. And they suggest
it's not being ruthless, it's being thoughtful before bringing something
into my home. I now think about it's fate. This
person writes, how will I feel living with it? Will
someone else ever want it? Is it worth it? By
recognizing the stories I tell about my stuff, it has
made it easier to let go of old things or
avoid buying new ones without losing a bit of myself.
(13:42):
I so need a shrink. Or wait a minute, no,
you go to a shrink. All they do is give
you drugs. So I so need drugs. It's Jack Armstrong
and Joey Armstrong and Getty Show. It's The Armstrong Show
featuring our podcast One More Thing. Download it, subscribe to
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it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So as a big hippie festival in middle of nowhere, Nevada.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't know that it's a hippie festival.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's a festival of living outside the riggers and bounds
of everyday society, a chance to cut loose a little
bit and relax in the desert with like minded fellows
and gals.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
None of us have been, so you haven't been, Katie,
I have not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I wanted to go, but I've never made it. Michael,
if I remember correctly, you'd never been to San Diego
until fairly recently, so I don't think you've been nourning.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Man's cut out of the question. I've been to the beach,
but that's about it. I must stand up.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Seeing I don't even like most camping because as a
man who enjoys a cocktail before bed and buy a cocktail, well,
I always have to get up and p in the
middle of the night, and I'm afraid of being eaten
by a bear.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I didn't know where you're going with that. I was
gonna say, you enjoy cocktails, you don't like camping. Camping
is always super heavy on the drinking. You start like
really early and go all that. That's like the whole
camping thing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well, right of my camping.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I needed to embrace the jug, but the p jug.
But most of my camping experience was with my wife
and kids, and that just didn't seem to be a.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Good idea peeing and a jug.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, but I remain uneaten by bears, So I guess
it worked out all right.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Husband peede and a jug left it in my car
found it this weekend. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh you guys, now, TMI really, TMO, Well, this is
a perfect place to tell this story. I got two
good stories around this.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So one, I'm driving from Charlotte, North Carolina to Nashville
to catch a concert and I don't and I'm running
kind of ly and I need to pee and there's
U and I don't want to pull over, and so
I have a gatorade bottle and I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna pee in the gatorade bottle while I'm driving.
And what I learned is the volume of urine that
(16:02):
comes out of you is a lot more than you
think it is, because the gatorade bottle filled up like that.
And then it was just he going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It was horrible. Sharm make story. It's a shame. It's over.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So then the other story is this my poor son
with his anxiety problems. He went through a boy a
year or two period where he had to pee like
every thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Poor LiH. It was horrible. I'm so glad that's not
the case anymore, because I remember how difficult that was. Horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We had pads all around the house. He was a
pretty little kid, pads all over the house. Could just
from nervousness. He'd just have to pee and so it's
just anyway. So he I'd carry a bottle water bottles
just like you drink out of in the car, and
he'd pee in the water bottle all the time because
I can't pull over every time. He needs a pea
literally like every minute sometimes, so he can't go anywhere.
(16:52):
So I had a you know, I'm I I'm driving
to work one morning, and I grabbed my water bottle
and take a swig, and no.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I thought that first story was terrible. And I took
the big old gulp of old salty. Oh, good morning, man.
That was rough.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
When it as soon as it took me like a
half a second to realize, you know, you get hit
with this isn't water. Then oh, I know what it is,
and then just the revulsion at what it was. We're
all feeling it right now. Got it took me a
long time to stop spitting and rinsing out my mouth
after that.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
See arms Strong and Getty show. Yeah more Jack your
show podcasts and our hot links.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Strong and Getty Show featuring our podcast One More Thing,
get it wherever you like to get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Story out of California.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I guess this is a problem in a number of
different states, but this particular lawsuit is in California. If
you're a nurse, or you work at a hospital, for instance,
in any capacity, really, but you had your PhD, do
you get to call yourself doctor so and so? If
I have a PhD in history but I work at
a hospital, yes, do I get to call myself doctor
(18:09):
Jack Armstrong? Yes, Well, apparently you can't, and a lot
of states that's against the law. It's not as clear
in California. And this woman who is told not to
call herself doctor anymore, she's a nurse, but she introduces
herself as doctor so and so and has that on
our little tag and signs things that way.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It confuses the patients, obviously, and she is told not
to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
She is suing saying, you know, hey, I worked really
hard to spend a lot of money. I got this degree,
this is the title. I get to call myself this.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So they're trying.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I would suggest that the further it is from medical
science or science at all, the more enthusiastic.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I am about this idea.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You have a PhD in women's studies, you ought to
call yourself doctor in the hospital and walk into patients
rooms and they say, doctor, I don't know if this
drug is working.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You say, well, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't know anything about medicine, and then walk out
again and leave them wondering.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What the hell is going on here?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But I can tell you about Napoleon's loss at Waterloo
because that's what I have my PhD.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Wow, the whole I got a PhD. So I you
got to call me doctor.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know I've known a few. Uh, well, I've known
quite a few people with PhDs, but uh.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I've only known a few that really trotted out a lot.
Usually it's only when it's contextually makes sense, like if, uh,
you know, if you're if you're having a meeting about
business and you got somebody there who's got a PhD
in business to introduce them as doctor so and so
went to Stanford, that's think that's perfectly fine, that's stretch man,
(19:46):
But that's not even necessary. But they just like regularly
casual you're out for dinner and you introduce yourself as
doctor so and so.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Eh, come on, well, how about freaking doctor Jill Biden?
Exactly what I was think.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
She's got a PhD in library or something, library science
or whatever it is English.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I've had more acquaintances or friends that actually kind of
hide the fact that they have a PhD unless it
like really comes up in conversation, and you would kind
of get into a weird territory to not mention it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
They don't mention it because of the way it comes off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So this particular woman who's suing California to be able
to call herself doctor says she always tells patients as
a nurse when she goes in there and they say, oh, hi,
doctor Janine, I have her name here, but it doesn't matter,
And she says, I'm not a medical doctor. Have my
PhD in something else. My first thought would be, then,
why do you call yourself doctor in a freaking hospital?
(20:45):
Wouldn't that be your first thought? Yeah, I don't know,
I don't know. See, you know what you're doing pretending
you don't know what you're doing walking around a hospital
with a bad just's doctor so and so on it
I can't remember, did you tell us what her PhD?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is in.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I'm only mildly interested. I just had that in front
of you. I don't remember. I'm just curious how ridiculous
it is. What about DJs who referred to themselves as
doctors may be allowed to identify themselves thusly in a
hospital doctor Johnny Fever. I have spinned or spun many
(21:29):
platters to get this nickname.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I deserve credit for it. She has a doctorate of
nursing practice, whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, that's funny. I'm a doctor of nursing. That's weird.
I'm a nursing of doctor. You want to go out
sometimes anyway? Wow, I would just say this if you
have a PhD. And you probably know this.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Most people, I think the vast majority of people kind
of roll the rod if you introduce yourself as doctor
so and so, or your wife does, her husband does
or whatever?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
All right, I think most people do. They make fun
of you after you leave. Certainly, I like what Joe said.
She basically has this.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
She has a doctorate and it's the highest level of
nurse training, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So she's doctor nurse?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, are you someone who can fix my knee or
take out my gall bladder?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, well, then shot at I agree with you, Katie.
Woman sounds annoying. I'm a doctor of nursing. That's so funny.
I'm trying to think, is there anything like, uh, anything
similar to that. I don't know. It is a pretty
un doctor of nursing.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It'd be like I'm an engineer of Now, there's nothing analogous.
I don't think so, because a nurse is kind of
sort of an assistant to doctors.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm the president of vice Presidents. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
I'm the president of the Vice President's Association.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I don't know that that's something I would walk around
pointing out every day. That's why I think she's obnoxious.
What is you know, what good is she doing herself
or anyone else she encounters.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So you're super well educated in your profession. Good for you.
Go out and prove it. That's fine. I'm the captain
of the second Mate's division. So moving on to Disney.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I haven't heard what this is, but it's labeled as
the Secrets of Disney World.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I've never been to Disney World. Maybe i'll learn something here.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
One a Magic Kingdom, all cast members are empowered to
create magical moments. These are designed for. If you see
a kid lose their turkey leg to a seagull, you
can go get them a brand new one for free.
Have you ever seen a janitor and move stash through
the park. The answer is no, that would destroy the magic.
Every trash can that you see is not actually a
trash can, but a shoot that goes directly into Disney's
trash compactor system called the Utilidor nobody throws up at
(23:59):
Disney World, that's gross. They have protein spills and every
cast member has protein spill powder. You throw it on
top of the throw up, it drives it up, and
the janitor will come and clean it up a few
minutes later. I would have to call Chop Protective Services,
the police, and Disney management at least once a month
while working at Space Mountain. Why their parents thought it
would be a great idea to wait a two and
a half hour line to get onto Space Mountain and
(24:20):
leave their kid out front. Well, by the time they
get off that ride, the police greet them and no
one mes happy and it's not very magical.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Wow. So a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
One, I think we need to start editing TikTok clips
to put space between thoughts. I understand why they do
it on TikTok, But for me my mind, I get
interested in something and then you hit with me with
something else, and.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, I get to do that for me like a beat.
So you've got boomer brain. Maybe I have a boomer brain.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean because TikTok's the most successful thing and ever.
I guess young people can handle that. But I get
I hear it, like, well that's and then they're on
to the next thing.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
So you don't see janitors going to empty the garbage bins,
which is kind of gross because it goes.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Down into a shoot.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, interesting they call vomiting protein spills, and every
cast member has the powder, got a utility belt like Batman,
right ready to throw a little powder on the protein
spill immediately a little puke powder. And then there were
a couple other things in there. I wanted to comment them,
but my boomer brain couldn't comprehend them because it was
(25:28):
coming at me so fast.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, you have the people leaving their kid to fend
for themselves, their little kid as they wait two and
a half hours for ride, just sit there on the bench, Jenny,
I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I did wait with my kids for I think two
and a half hours for the Mario Ride at Nintendo
Land or whatever that thing is called. Is that what
it's called, Nintendo Land. I don't even know what, No clue,
Universal Studios, Nintendo World. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the Mario Ride,
which it had just opened, and it was like the
hottest thing going, and it amazing goes half your day, right, yeah,
(26:07):
it's a lot of your day, but that's why we went.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
The reason we went was to ride that ride.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So and it was all thirty year olds, right, A
lot of thirty year olds in costume. A lot of
thirty year olds by themselves in costume. Oh that I
don't get.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, it makes me sad.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But I would say that it was the quickest moving
two and a half hours I've ever done in my life.
I mean, I don't think I stood for more than
a few seconds. You're kind of constantly shuffling or walking.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And usually in the Disney style, and this was their genius.
You come across something interesting and entertaining as you're waiting.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, you walk through the castle, so you'd go up
these stairs around a corner, and then you're in a
room and there's a couple of things to look at.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And then you go down this stair and corner, Hey.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
There's something interesting. So I went by fairly quickly. I
don't know whoever invented that. That was very cleverly. I
understood psycholog in an amazing way. But I don't know
that i'd ever do it again. My one kid said
it was absolutely worth it, and my other kid said
he was a teenager. Of course, nothing's worth it to him,
right my definition as a teenager, nothing's cool, nothing's worth it.
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Speaker 1 (27:52):
I angered some people by not taking Nicky Hailey seriously
enough or something. I feel like I've taken a fairly
seriously from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But I can vouch for that he has. Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
But I guess if you don't do it every single time,
and somebody only hears one comment, like me commenting on
her dress today, I feel like that's the only thing
I've ever thought about her. She was wearing a red dress,
and I said, man, that's some nice dress. In defense
of Jack, red is a bold color for a politician
to wear.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It is. If you wear a bright red dress, I
assume you're trying to some attention to yourself. But isn't
there some.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Uh forbidding of doing that in the Book of Leviticus
or something like that, wearing a red dress.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But this person went on to say, if a man
made a speech wearing a red suit, I'll bet you
would have mentioned that first as well. And then the
women get that you have all the options for all
these different clothes you can wear. If Mitt Romney came
out in a bright red suit, I mean, the first
thing anybody said, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Like he's sinbad or something.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yes, for instance, a professional pool player or something out.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It's always struck me.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You see the Senate Chamber or the House chamber, and
you have every single guy in a dark suit, a
white or light blue shirt, and a red or blue tie,
every single damn one of them. And then you've got
the many colors of the rainbow of the coals. They're
wearing white and yellow and red and blue and whatever
they want.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Dresses, pants, suits, brooches, no brooches. You got all the
options to you if you're a woman, Katie, but only
of course, the downside is, I know I've heard women
say this before, is I got to come up with
something to wear where you get to just throw on
a suit and always call yourself dressed up correct, which
is handy.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, absolutely well, especially because it's also simpler. You have
your your pants, your shirt, your jacket, which is what
you guys wear usually.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Anyway, I wear a suit to work most every day,
and it is it is. It is easier than dressing
casual to wear a suit. Oh yeah, absolutely true. If
you have two suits, you've covered it. If you have three,
you're trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And the other thing is about suits is you can
gain five pounds lose five pounds.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They fit fine.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I got four suits. I rotate a bunch of
dress shirts. It's super easy to dress. But if I
was trying to dress up without a suit. That'd take
a lot of money in time.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, dresses are not forgiving, guys. I'll tell you that
those things do not give. Either it fits the way
it did when you bought it or not, yes, or
and it'll never fit that way again.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah. Interesting, I've not had that situation. I haven't tried
on many dresses.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Huh. So.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The CIA has done a lot of wacky things throughout
the years, and a whole bunch of it has been
to classified because after twenty five years or thirty years
or fifty years, there are different rules for different levels
of stuff. Some of this stuff comes out. Some of
this I've heard before. Some of this I'd never like.
All this stuff about the way these ways we tried
to kill fidela Castro I've heard many many times.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh, a classic.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
We actually did try to poison his cigars or have
exploding cigars and kill him, or at least considered it.
And a bunch of other stuff. Some of this new
stuff I had not heard. The Osama bin Laden demon toy.
The plan after nine eleven was going to make figurines
that looked like Osama bin Laden and give them to
kids in South Asia. After being left in the sun
for a certain amount of time, its face would peel
(31:13):
off to reveal a demon like vision with red skin,
green eyes, and black markings. The objective was to scare
kids on their parents, so Ben Laden al Qaida would
lose support points for creativity.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Geez, how about a stick with me?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Now? How about a melting faced demon figurine?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Sounds like they were on some bad acid. Yeah, wow,
there are no bad ideas, Joe. Let's go with the
Osama bin laden demon face. This one's from the Cold War,
but I don't think i'd heard this one before. The
Cold War. Condom drop plan, CIA operatives drew up a
plan to have packets of extra large condoms labeled small
(31:53):
dropped on the USSR.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The idea was to lower their morale. That would work.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Wow, I can't this small condoms still way too big
for me. Wow, my must be tiny compared to the West.
You know what, this tiny? I see no reason to
fight for the Motherland. If I had a giant, I
would lay down my life gladly for this correct till
the end. Yes, But with this minuscule I am just
(32:23):
going home right.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is a devilish plan. It's hilarious. Wow, the acoustic kitty.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They basically put a microphone in a radio and a
cat and released it in the Soviet embassy to wander
around eavesdropping since nobody suspects a wandering cat.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Wow, Wow, poor cat.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
All of these ideas just sound like somebody was really high.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
To me, they really do. Dude.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
What if you're to like, put a microphone up a
cat and then turn it loose because nobody's going to
think of cats most What if the cat spy pooped
out the mic, Dude, then it totally be busted.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
What are they gonna do? Question the cat man? Most
cat evert.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Most places of work I've been in, you just don't
ignore wandering straight cats in the hallways.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh it's a different time, another straight cat.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Anyway, Jim as I was saying, the place to attack
the United States is eh, boy, But this is the
one I wanted to get on because it backs up.
I believe Hitler and I agree on one thing, and
that is modern art is bogus.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But modern art as a CIA weapon. Back during the sixties,
the CIA noticed that artists tend to lean towards socialism communism.
They realize The best way to prevent this or discredit
these political positions was to make them wealthy so that
they would be more invested in capitalism. To do this,
the CAA anonymously bought modern art pieces, no matter how nonsensical,
(34:12):
for very high prices, making a whole bunch of modern
artists rich so they would embrace capitalism. So a lot
of that modern art that got successful and sold was
a CIA plot, not some discerning art collector.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hmmm, that makes the cat like sounds like a really
good idea. I mean, good, lord, really what the wow?
It was like a massive waste of money. I know
it will do. I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
What if they just like donated to the Communist Party?
I don't like, that's just that is weak.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
She liked the Cat microphone store better than the big
fan of that.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Out by modern art, huge fan.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'm did they give any any specific examples? I mean, like,
was Andy Warhol entirely a product of the CIA's right,
you know, writing checks?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Nobody had any interest in those soup cans except for
the CIA.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Could be I don't know, doesn't say wow, wow, how interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Cat microphone that's your favorite idea? Yea.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
For a number of reasons exactly, of course. The way
they walk around with their tails up in the air,
you could a camera, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yes, yes, when he turns that orde at the camera
at the wide angle, well it has to be.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah. I'm here, love, I'm not a cat
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Says the cat wandering around the embassy,
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