June 10, 2026 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jettie and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I just spoke with President Trump and following the US
strikes against Iran overnight and the Iranian missile attacks against
US forces in Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan, the President tells
Fox News he may keep going and that he is
getting closer to the targeting of Iranian power plants and bridges.
He told Fox that the Iranians are tapping the US
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along as it relates toward reaching a negotiated settlement to
formally end this conflict.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Really you think you think? God, I just I'm baffled
by this. I don't know if books will be written
years from now that will explain what was going on
behind the scenes. While why a guy who's been making
big time deals his entire life let somebody string him
along like this. I can't believe he did this when
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he was building hotels or whatever where that he wouldn't say, Look,
you're clearly not you know, going to lay the foundation
for this hotel.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm not gonna put up with this s etc.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Where let's the Iranian leadership just keep one shooting at
us and two claiming that they're gonna do something when
they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And then we exchanged tit for tat attacks. How about
a devastation for tat? How does that sound?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
In the whole threat, I'm thinking of targeting the power plants. Dude,
that ship has sailed on. Anybody being frightened by those threats?
The New York Post California Post counted thirty eight times.
Now Trump has said We're this close to a deal
thirty eight times.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's a lot. And if you don't count jad Vans,
nobody else is saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Anyway, Uh, Iranians shot down a helicopter, which should lead
us to just blast the Jesus out of them. But anyway,
they shot down order of our apaches. Luckily the two
pilots were rescued. That whole story is pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What I found very interesting, though, was what the President
told us about the downing of that US Army Apache
helicopter earlier this week. The President provided some new details
into what took place.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He says an Iranian drone.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Lodged into this Apache helicopter Between the two pilots and
the drone was on fire, but it didn't explode, and
the helicopter was flying quite low and within seconds these
pilots were able to bring this helicopter down into the sea,
and ultimately the President called it a miracle because had
this drone exploded, these pilots would have been killed. And
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we know the rescue was a first in US military history.
This unmanned sea drone ultimately was deployed after it was
ordered by President Trump to rescue these two US service
members and they are now recovering following this incident at sea.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So they had been bobbing in the water for two hours,
which that had to be a thing, hoping that the
you know, the good guys got to them before the
bad guys got to them. Anyway, this US drone boat conducting,
as you just heard, there a first of its kind rescue.
Nobody knew we had some of this technology run by AI.
They aren't telling us a lot of And what that
means powered by artificial intelligence, I don't know. Do you
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do you have a guess what that means AI running
the boat?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It would be a guess.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It incorporates AI systems for navigation and citing hazards and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And so then yesterday when the military told us about
this drone smaller boat that they sent to pick up
the pilots and then get them to safety, which they
haven't told us where that was either for obvious reasons.
The military told us about this new USX one Defiant,
which is a one hundred and eight foot long two
hundred and forty metric ton unmanned boat, this seam missile
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thingy fighter ship that is a drone and that nobody
had ever heard about before they put that information out yesterday.
I don't know if that was to let the Ranians
know we haven't a Chinese or what.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So one comment and then a possible counter argument, But
so Iran attacks one of our Apache helicopters, the drone
gets lodged in between the pilots, it's on fire, but
it doesn't explode. Everybody, including the president, says that's a miracle.
And yet the President had said if they kill our guys,
we're gonna whoop their ass. Well, they tried as hard
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as they could. You yourself said it was a miracle
that they didn't succeed. Why do you wait until someone's dead.
I don't know, because that person is dead.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And their families are grieving. How about you do it now?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Obviously you do that same thing one hundred times in
nine nine times the pilots are dead.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
The only counter argument is Iran made some interesting comments about, hey,
if you're operating close to our coast, sometimes there are
accidents or you get caught in the crossfire, and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I don't stay away. I don't care, I don't care.
Don't even take a chance, Iran. So I don't even
take a chance when you know we're patrolling the straight
during a ceasefire, right, So you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Shot down our helicopter.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And then Trump's reaction yesterday is we ought to do
something because you had self defense. Want to make clear
of that, and you have to Ah. I didn't like
his language on that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
We'll have to see what happens next. Anyway, there was
a jazzy hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've hated the Southern Poverty Law Center for so long,
and they're lying statistics and they're treating everything on the
right as a hate group and overlooking all actual hate
groups on the left.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Which affects billions of dollars of corporate and personal donations.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It matters. Yeah, they're a grift, and the fact.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That the media has always going along with them like
they're just a fair arba dura of hate groups.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, man, did the Republicans bring it in the hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We've got some of the highlights coming up next.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Did the Southern Private Loss Center use donor money to
recruit new individuals into those extremist groups?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
All right, assuming you don't want me to answer, since
you're not giving any time to answer, I'm giving.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
You time to answer because that's a yes or did
you use your donor's money for that purpose?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes or no?
Speaker 8 (06:29):
We have asserted that the allegations are false.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
That's part of the SPLC hearing yesterday in front of Congress.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which is neither Southern, doesn't
address poverty, regularly flouts the law. They may have a center.
Other than that, it's all fictional. They are a grift.
They are a professional money raising industry, and the way
they raise money is by terrifying poor people into thinking
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white supremacy is sweeping across the land.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And even without the taking money to support various groups
even without that, just the way they cherry picked anything
that was slightly conservative and called it a hate group
and then ignored anything on the left, and then your
evening newscast and report the Southern Poverty Law Centers now
says right wing extremism is the number one threat to America.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right right, Well, their ridiculousness was exposed. The clip of
the quote I was looking for from Eric Hall for
every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business,
and eventually degenerates into a racket on the SPLC is
absolutely At that point, we're going to play some highlights.
Brandon Gill was just great here. He's talking about an
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obvious oysterman politician.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Who's getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Do you think that this should disqualify him politically from
serving in the Senate?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Having a Nazi tattoo again.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I'm not sure what the line of questions that's going
the SPLC.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
If you're asking me, I'm sorry, go ahead asking.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Me if the SPLC opposes Nazis and Nazis symbols.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
The answer is yes, yep.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
The SPLC is referred to this same tattoo as a
racist skinhead symbolant tattoo. You can see the resemblance there.
You wouldn't want somebody with a tattoo like that in
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, No, that was just to embarrass him on the
news of the day, which was Platiner winning by fifty points.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Jack, you mentioned this off the air, and I agree completely.
One of Brandon Gill's strengths is his completely non grand
standing tone of voice. He's just business, He's just doing business.
This is business.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I love this part.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
Your organization.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool of
the far that the far right uses to maintain white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Could god, do you believe.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
That the pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
I believe that reproductive liberty is.
Speaker 10 (09:03):
Do you believe that pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
I will tell you what I believe. If you're assest
or no, I can't answer that question yesterday.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
I don't think that pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
What I think is that reproductive liberty is a right
that every woman should enjoy.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
And how many babies in the United States that are
aborted or black? About forty percent of abortions nationwide or
of black babies Blacks represent about thirteen percent of the population.
Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
What I would say again, is that SPLC supports reproductive.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge,
isn't it?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Would?
Speaker 9 (09:52):
I mean, I would think you would be able to
defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem
unable to.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Mister Gil, I'm not sure why you would think I'm
able to do anything.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
You're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro lifers
as racists. Well, what does your organization just hurl around
epithets like that without any justification?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Just or go.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
What we do is I'm giving you the opportunity to
give mister.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Sherman, what's he referring to?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And can you let the witness This is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's what are you referring to?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Question?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Sometimes it is outrageous when you throw on questions and
you don't give people a chance to answer. That guy
had multiple chances to try to explain why the Southern
Poverty Law Center says being pro life is a white
supremacist position because you want to continue white supremacy. Then
he points out Gill points out that, well, that doesn't
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really make any sense sense.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh, disproportionately Black support of babies way more than white people.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So I'm gonna hamana haamana hu manahahahah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So here's where things got a little jazzier. Alvita King
was on hand.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
She is the niece of Martin Luther King Junior, which
I'm against legacies. That doesn't grant her any particular moral weight,
although I found her to be persuasive and smart and wise.
And here she is engaged in an exchange on the
same topic.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Time belongs to the gentleman from Texas. It's now expired,
but he will be able to ask his last question,
and we'll give the witness a chance to respond.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Right, I'll give my last question to doctor King. Doctor
king Er, our pro lifers, white supremacists.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Pro lifers cannot be quite supremacist. Pro lifeists believe in
life from the wound to the tomb and beyond. Pro
life's fight for every baby in the womb, regardless of
skin color. We have been aborted as blacks in America disproportionately,
and so the white supremacist our Planned Parenthood admitted that
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they do have racist underpending with an agenda to reduce
the black population by abortion.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
That's right, Thank you, doctor King.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Thank you Yeah, Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a
eugenics enthusiast worth mentioning. And then things got really spicy
when soon to be heaved out on her ear jackass
Race Bader Jasmine Crockett decided taking a shot in miss
King was the right thing to do.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
The vast majority of the people on that side of
the isle, And for those of you that are at home.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
When I say that side of the isle, I'm talking
about the Republicans, the ones that brought this hearing. And
again you've heard that this is not the first hearing,
but the vast majority of them are white men. White
men are lecturing people of color because the vast majority,
actually any semblance of diversity comes from this side of
the isle. You want to.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Tell people of color who is fighting for who.
Speaker 11 (12:59):
People of color do not feel comfortable or welcomes within
your party. That's why you have to parade someone who
has the name doctor King attached to them so that
people can be confused. Because I have been reading the
comments online and people are like, who is this doctor King?
Because you want them to believe that somehow she espouses
who doctor King was. Yet you've yet to have Mlka
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the third come in here. You've yet to have doctor
Bernice King, the ones that were actually raised by doctor King,
the ones that actually probably understand the teachings of doctor King.
And I just want to be clear because I want
to talk to y'all about what the doctor King had
to say about racism, so that y'all don't get it
twisted and don't get it confused just because you see
the name sitting in this room.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Boy, she's really good at that whole testifying, using a
bunch of words real fast, but never actually making an argument,
just citing who's legitimate and who's not. Make an argument,
not an ad hominem attack, and Miss King responded with
love and compassion, saying, you seem to suggest I'm some
sort of bastard to the King family, but don't worry.
I love you, I forgive you, which is nice. I
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want to squeeze in one more clip in the time
that we have. Chip Roy brought it. He was asking
about Charlie Kirk and whether the regrets listing him as
a hate manger just before he's murdered for being a
hate monger. But I want to go with fifty eight.
Here he's talking about well radical Islam.
Speaker 12 (14:26):
How many extremists Islamic groups do you have of the
fifteen hundred or so organizations you have in your hate map?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
Again, anyone can go to our website.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
I obviously been looking over and can't really find one.
Speaker 11 (14:38):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Again it is the SPLCS.
Speaker 12 (14:42):
The SBLC can provide us a list of the the
Islamic oriented groups do you have in your hate map?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Mister Roy? We don't target any group because of its religion. Really,
I want to be clear about that. Really, Yes, that's
exactly right. We target no group because of its religion.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
We target groups because they express statements and engage in
activities that demean and villain.
Speaker 12 (15:07):
You brought up LGBTQ groups a second ago, So you
brought up lgbt groups a minute ago. So you think
there's a bunch of Islamic groups that are pro LGBTQ.
Is that the position of the SPLC. I just want
to make sure the record is reflecting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That people actually laughed at that. That was a good shot. Yes, unbelievable.
You got fifteen hundred groups on your these are hate
groups list, and anybody who isn't up with trans gets
listed as a hate group.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you including just.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Moms who don't want boys playing in their girls sports,
moms for liberty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That makes you a hate group. But you got no
Muslim affiliated groups of any kind.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Really who are for the death penalty for being gay
or participating in gay sex.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It is a money raising racket.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Splc utterly abandon any mortal underpinning decades ago.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They're a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, Tom McClintock was part of the hearing yesterday, representative
from California. We're gonna talk to him coming up in
just a little bit. But the part that really bothers
me about this the most is here's this organization, Southern
Poverty Law Center, who I've heard quoted my entire adult
life like they were the like the Nobel Prize. It
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was like the definitive are you a hate group or
are you a hate person?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Or whatever? I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They called the balls and strikes on this sort of
thing and got reported in the mainstream news all the time.
Turns out they're completely frauds, and it got no attention
anywhere unless you have a right wing algorithm on your
Twitter or YouTube feed, or you watched Fox. You didn't
know this hearing happened at all yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
The SBLC will be quoted in The New York Times
tomorrow decrying.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who is a hate group and who's not?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean, that is pretty disappointing to me. So these
mainstream news outlets that have been quoting him forever didn't
cover this hearings. What's your pushback on some of the
stuff that we've played here? Do you have any I'd
like to hear it.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Congressman Tom McClintock was part of that hearing yesterday. We
will talk to him in moments stay with us, Armstrong
and Getty.
Speaker 13 (17:17):
Did SBLC suggests political groups like Turning Point USA, traditional
Catholic groups, Family Research Council for investigation by the Department
of Justice Parkerson McClintock.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Again, as I said, we identify groups based on the
statements that they make, the activities that they engage in.
Did you those of the criteria that we use?
Speaker 13 (17:36):
Do itjest that these groups be investigated by the Department
of Justice?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Not to my knowledge, that is sent Congressman Tom McClintock
talking to Brian Fair of the thoroughly discredited SPLC. Yesterday,
during that same hearing, we were playing new highlights of
moments ago. Congressman tomac clintock represents the fifth District of California.
Not long ago, Citizens Against Government Waste named him one
of only two perfect votes in the House fighting wasteful
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government spending. Tom McClintock joins US now Congressman, how are you, sir,
I'm doing fine. Tanks boy, was that hearing overdue? I
imagine you found it pretty satisfying.
Speaker 14 (18:18):
Uh. Yes, It's like, you know, turning over rocks and
finding out what's crawling under them. In this case, obviously,
the Department of Justice has an indictment against them. I
guess it'll go to trial in October. They're charged with
wire fraud, bank fraud, a fallse statements, conspiracy to commit
money laundering. But you know, our focus is on the
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implications to the government, their collusion with the Biden administration.
Uh and and the violence that they have not only
financed but also instigated.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, men, there's so much about this.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I've hated that group for so long because they get
quoted in the mainstream news all the time, like they
are the sole arbiter of what's a hate group or
a hate crime or whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And you know like CBS Evening News or.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Whatever would act like, well, the Southern Body Law Center
said it, so it must be true.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We find out yesterday it's not even close to accurate. Yeah,
what is their business model? Tom? How does that work?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (19:18):
It's pretty simple. According to the indictments, they funneled four
million dollars to various extremist groups like the KKK at
the same time they're raising money assuring donors that they're
on frontlines fighting the same groups. You remember the Charlottesville riots,
it was a woman was killed. The indictment documents that
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the SPLC had paid one of the organizers of that
Unite the Right rally two hundred and seventy thousand dollars
while he was recruiting agitators and posting inflammatory rhetoric, and
after the riots they're fundraising more than double So obviously
it was a good financial investment.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, and that riot, according to Joe Biden, was what
gave him the impetus to run for president when he
saw that hate, which turns out some of them was
funded by the SBLC.
Speaker 14 (20:11):
And by the way, misquoted Trump, who very clearly condemned
the Nazis that were there that day. But well, you know,
it's not comical about this is the fact they regularly
advised the Justice Department under the Biden administration. You might
remember the famous FBI memo listing traditional Catholic organizations and
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extremist groups. Well that was the SPLC.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, and moms who just don't want boys beating up
their girls on the field of play in girls' sports,
they're listed. This hate groups. That's obscene. The long and
short of it, as you know, Tom, is that they
raise tremendous amounts of money based on convincing people that
there's white supremacy lurking beyond every tree. So they have
to create it if it doesn't exist by mislabeling groups
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and slamming them as disgusting.
Speaker 14 (21:02):
Well, not not only that, financing the very extremist groups
they tell people they're fighting. This is this is what's
so bizarre about this. I mean, obviously they have there's
enormous harm involved. You know, they declared tip. One of
the things they do is they'll name obvious experience groups
like the KKK, which now turns out the financing. But
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they are not Antifa, who they say doesn't exist or
change revenge its responsible attacks on pro lifelyase well, to
take these obvious experience groups like the KKK and then
mix in mainstream conservative groups they don't like to taint
them with the same brush. Now, they declared Turning Point
USA I hate group. The next day, Charlie Kirk was
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assassinated by a mad man who said the reason for
his attack was to stop hate. They declared the Family
Research Council the hate group, and that directly motivated a
gunman to shoot up their offices a few years ago,
and you mentioned althea King who's they're hearing, Martin Luther
kings niece. She was singled out by the SBL as
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an extremist because she doesn't happen to believe that children
should have gender reassignment surgery.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I loved your college Chip Roy making the point that
so you've got moms who don't want boys beating up
their girls in witmen and girls' sports as a hate group,
but radical Islamic groups that would execute transgender people or
gay people are not listed.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's just it's a joke. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (22:30):
Well, and I think that the country's now been let
in on the joke, and hopefully this group will no
longer be able to corrupt public the public square the
way it has, or for that matter, target legitimate groups
that are simply participating in the political process.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You mentioned the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I don't think
we've had a chance to talk to you about this
in general. How concerned are you about overt turn of
the kind of political violence we saw in the sixties
and early seventies.
Speaker 14 (23:05):
Well, obviously it's we're watching you to unfold. Not the
first time in the country that we've gone through this
kind of trim oil, but it is obviously being banned
by extreme rhetoric that needs to be toned down.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Congressman Tom mcclintick is online represents the fifth district of California.
You know, you've served on the House Natural Resources Committee
for a long time, and you're part of the subcommittee
on Federal.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Lands and water and power and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
How's how important is America's energy independence right now? I
don't think he can be overstated.
Speaker 14 (23:49):
Of course it can't, and we are energy independent. Unfortunately
in my state of California. We used to be energy independent.
We used to produce more oil than we consumed. We
had forty one bineries operating in the state, but left
wing administration of Gavin Newsom is waged war against fossil
fuels these eight years. We're now down to seven refineries.
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Five of them have notified the state they can no
longer do business under the regulations and taxes that have
been imposed on them, and we're importing sixty percent of
the fuel consumed in California now. Our fuel prices are
typically running two dollars a gallon ahead of the rest
of the nation, and that's probably going to get worse
once Iran is behind us and the national fuel prices
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dropped back down to two and a half to three
and a half dollars a gallon, California could be at
six to eight dollars a gallon. So yeah, energy into
point pendence is really important. We used to have at
my state, we lost it, and we're paying the price
at the pump every day.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Different topic. This point popped into my head the other day.
You're roughly the same age as as Joe and I are.
You remember the bi centennial nineteen seventy six. Now, I
was a kid, so I wasn't reading all the editorial pages,
and you know, it was pre cable news. But I
don't remember a lot of pushback on the idea that
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the United States was a good country for the two
hundred celebration. But here we are headed to the two
hundred and fiftieth, and I thought we worth asking you,
since you're such a fan of American history and the
founding and everything like that, why don't you push back
on those who are writing columns in the New York
Times or kneeling at basketball games or talking on cable
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news channels about why we shouldn't be celebrating the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this country.
Speaker 14 (25:38):
Well, don't forget there was a time when the former
vice president of the United States said that America had
been founded on self evident lies.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
You know that was John C. Calhoun. He was John
Quincy Adams vice president. He was one of the inspirations
for the Confederates. So we've had that attitude throughout the
country in our history before. But you know, when you
and I were growing up, I've said to folks, I've
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spent my entire life. Arguing with liberals over the appropriate
size and scope of government, Well, we always agreed on
the fundamentals. We always agreed in freedom of speech. I
might disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to
the death you're right to say it. We all agreed
on constitutional principles and process of law, equal justice under
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the law. We all believe that you should be judged
on the content of your character, not the color of
your skin. We shared all of that in common, and
we all were patriotic. We all rooted for America. The
modern left shares none of those principles. And I've suggested
to a lot of my liberal colleagues they now have
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far more in common with conservatives than they have with
the far left that's taking over their party.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Have you gotten many the sympathy to that point of
view among your sane democratic colleagues, because what we're talking
about here is neo Marxists who want to tear down
the United States and Western civilization.
Speaker 14 (27:13):
The colleagues that I talked to about this are so
scared the death of the far left. They agree with
what I've just said, but they are scared the death
of the far left because they now control so much
of the energy within the Democratic Party and you cross
them as your peril. I mean, you know, look John
Fetterman for example, right.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, I actually saw a polster say just yesterday that
that's the majority majority of the Democratic Party. Congressman Tom
McClintock of the fifth District of California.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Tom, Great, to talk to you to keep fighting a
good fight.
Speaker 14 (27:45):
Thanks guys, great, got it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yep. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I didn't want to go to this direction with stuff.
Oh but we ought to talk about this. So Jasmine Crockett,
who you quoted earlier, the progressive nut job who's leaving office,
suggest she would also would have stabbed Austin metcalf in
stunning defensive Carmelo Anthony, a case which we have not
talked about, which had its verdict yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We probably ought to get to into that maybe an
hour four. Wow, what a thing to say.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
She's made a career on whipping up anti white racism,
so she's sticking with it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm gonna talk about something less depressing.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Uh Burgh.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Mortality, I get a good story, but uh Burger Joy
I went to yesterday the guy that was working in
the kitchen, well, Burger Jim that's a good story. Oh
Burger Jim, A tale of the ballad of Burger Jim
coming up. Maybe I'll turn it into a story song
like that Kenny Rogers could sing, Yes. But so we
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got lots of other stuff on the way.
Speaker 15 (28:51):
Stay here, hads fun founder listed is Hampton's compound for
a record one hundred and fifty two point five million
dollars or two tickets to Game four.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now, I just.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Saw something in the New York Post headline that the
prices are crashing for Game four the way down.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't know why that would be exactly. I don't
know anyway.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Tell you what if you're not watching Stanley Cup Finals
playoff hockey. If you ever watch hockey, it's unbelievable. The
series is fabulous. It's tied two to two two two.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes, did we talk about this?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Meta launches America's Workforce Academy. No, it's a Zuckerberg thing.
They're gonna give hundreds of thousands of Americans the skills
to build our country's AI future. The program offers paid
training and electrical plumbing, fiber and installation, and many other trades.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
With a job.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Upon completion, they'll have to give you a you'll they'll
set you up with the job when you're done. No
experience necessary, no regort, no degree required, no cost to
the participant, the fly to the location. They pay for everything,
and it says here because the future is for everyone.
So yeah, there's a huge shortage of the workers needed
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to build these gigantic data centers. They can't get enough
people to build them. I think that's it. It's also
partially our technology is going to destroy the working class,
and we don't want to be the all time villain
of villains in the world history. So you know, all
those things are coming together in one spot. And speaking
of having a job, my boys and I went to
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a burger joint in Sacramento, California yes day. Old sac
Fanny ANNs my son really likes their burgers. I've been
going to that place, I realized for thirty years, which
is right crazy, And yesterday I had a chicken sandwich.
Was the first time I'd ever tried anything different in
thirty years at that restaurant. Wow, boys had the cheeseburger. Anyway,
So we go up there, we ordered the cheeseburgers and
everything like that, and I don't know how the conversation
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started with the cook, but the dude taking my order
and everything, and he looked about fifty said something about
been I've been here since seven thirty this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He said, whoa. He said, yeah, I got to get it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'm all alone here in the kitchen, so I got
to get everything lined up and ready to go, you know,
so I can pull this off by myself. And I said,
what time you get off? He said, I get off
around four thirty. He said, I get to go home,
but then I got to take a quick break and
head to my other job where I worked from five
until midnight. I said, I said, well, good for you.
I said, you know, you could just go on the
government dole and let the taxpayers do it for a
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year work And he said f that, And I thought,
why is he a guy that gets up at seven
thirty in the morning, takes a half hour break before
he starts his other job, gets home at midnight, saying
f that to the idea of going on the dole.
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Where is other people immediately dedicate their life to work
in the system so they don't have to work.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And they'd say f that to his reality or call
him stupid.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I suppoh, yeah, well, what is there anything other than
just your upbringing?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Is that the whole thing?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
That's a lot of it. There's probably a genetic component
to it, but yeah, you can definitely divide the world
into those two kinds of people.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And because you don't know this unless you you know,
you've been to Sacramento, but old Sack, you pull into
Old Sack.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You're staring right at the Capitol.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I said to my kids, looking at that giant capital,
which is like the size of the Capitol in DC.
I mean, it's a giant building where the governor does
his thing. I said, there's where my tax money goes,
lots and lots and lots of money.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And then we pull in there and there's.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
A guy that just, you know, horrified at the idea
of taking tax money as opposed to I don't know
what an other job was, but I would guess that
it's not much more glamorous than the one making burgers
as opposed to people who absolutely without any shame or
or you know, feeling of this isn't a good idea
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at all, happy to live off of other people going.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
To work and lay and be layabouts working age.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Male participation in the workforce is the lowest it's ever
been since the Depression.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, we really, this is not a question that isn't important.
We should know why one is that guy and one
is the other guy, so that we can make sure
our society pushes more people toward the other. So we
don't have the highest number of working age men ever
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as layabouts.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So what I'm about to say is either very profound
or super stupid. People only do what they can do.
If you can't survive laying around and smoking pot, you're
not gonna. We've made a society where a significant number
of working age men can do that, and then shame
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on us.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I guess of the two situations, the one that's harder
to explain by far is the guy who gets up
and works two jobs all day long.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
The other one's easy to change in human nature.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, I can get my Maslow's hierarchy of needs, food
and shelter paid for by someone else without.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Working as sign me up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, Well, you've got to design a society. You know,
you got to a person who would never murder and
a person who's willing to murder. You design your society
to severely discourage the aberrant behavior that you don't want
laying about and sucking off the teat of the state,
your fellow taxpayers, is aberrant behavior.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Unless you're disabled or severely you know, you know, held
back or whatever, it's abhorrent behavior in it ought to
be punished limited.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's just so basic.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I feel like I'm in crazy land having to say
that out loud.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, we're gonna run out of those guys, though, aren't
we Unless we do something culturally different or structurally different
with the incentives, We're gonna run out of those guys
who are willing to bust their ass like that rather
than take other people's Because the problem with that is
is Margaret Thatcher famously said, eventually.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You run out of other people's money. How'd you like
the chicken sandwich?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It was very good, But I love a cheeseburger. Had
I had feedernade? That's the German term for when you
wish you'd ordered what somebody else ordered.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Wow, you took on the wild side, but it's time
to get back to the good old burger.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
If you miss a segment of this show, gets the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jettie and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I just spoke with President Trump and following the US
strikes against Iran overnight and the Iranian missile attacks against
US forces in Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan, the President tells
Fox News he may keep going and that he is
getting closer to the targeting of Iranian power plants and bridges.
He told Fox that the Iranians are tapping the US
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along as it relates toward reaching a negotiated settlement to
formally end this conflict.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Really you think you think? God, I just I'm baffled
by this. I don't know if books will be written
years from now that will explain what was going on
behind the scenes. While why a guy who's been making
big time deals his entire life let somebody string him
along like this. I can't believe he did this when
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he was building hotels or whatever where that he wouldn't say, Look,
you're clearly not you know, going to lay the foundation
for this hotel.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm not gonna put up with this s etc.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Where let's the Iranian leadership just keep one shooting at
us and two claiming that they're gonna do something when
they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And then we exchanged tit for tat attacks. How about
a devastation for tat? How does that sound?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
In the whole threat, I'm thinking of targeting the power plants. Dude,
that ship has sailed on. Anybody being frightened by those threats?
The New York Post California Post counted thirty eight times.
Now Trump has said We're this close to a deal
thirty eight times.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's a lot. And if you don't count jad Vans,
nobody else is saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Anyway, Uh, Iranians shot down a helicopter, which should lead
us to just blast the Jesus out of them. But anyway,
they shot down order of our apaches. Luckily the two
pilots were rescued. That whole story is pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What I found very interesting, though, was what the President
told us about the downing of that US Army Apache
helicopter earlier this week. The President provided some new details
into what took place.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He says an Iranian drone.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Lodged into this Apache helicopter Between the two pilots and
the drone was on fire, but it didn't explode, and
the helicopter was flying quite low and within seconds these
pilots were able to bring this helicopter down into the sea,
and ultimately the President called it a miracle because had
this drone exploded, these pilots would have been killed. And
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we know the rescue was a first in US military history.
This unmanned sea drone ultimately was deployed after it was
ordered by President Trump to rescue these two US service
members and they are now recovering following this incident at sea.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So they had been bobbing in the water for two hours,
which that had to be a thing, hoping that the
you know, the good guys got to them before the
bad guys got to them. Anyway, this US drone boat conducting,
as you just heard, there a first of its kind rescue.
Nobody knew we had some of this technology run by AI.
They aren't telling us a lot of And what that
means powered by artificial intelligence, I don't know. Do you
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do you have a guess what that means AI running
the boat?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It would be a guess.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It incorporates AI systems for navigation and citing hazards and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And so then yesterday when the military told us about
this drone smaller boat that they sent to pick up
the pilots and then get them to safety, which they
haven't told us where that was either for obvious reasons.
The military told us about this new USX one Defiant,
which is a one hundred and eight foot long two
hundred and forty metric ton unmanned boat, this seam missile
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thingy fighter ship that is a drone and that nobody
had ever heard about before they put that information out yesterday.
I don't know if that was to let the Ranians
know we haven't a Chinese or what.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So one comment and then a possible counter argument, But
so Iran attacks one of our Apache helicopters, the drone
gets lodged in between the pilots, it's on fire, but
it doesn't explode. Everybody, including the president, says that's a miracle.
And yet the President had said if they kill our guys,
we're gonna whoop their ass. Well, they tried as hard
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as they could. You yourself said it was a miracle
that they didn't succeed. Why do you wait until someone's dead.
I don't know, because that person is dead.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And their families are grieving. How about you do it now?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Obviously you do that same thing one hundred times in
nine nine times the pilots are dead.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
The only counter argument is Iran made some interesting comments about, hey,
if you're operating close to our coast, sometimes there are
accidents or you get caught in the crossfire, and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I don't stay away. I don't care, I don't care.
Don't even take a chance, Iran. So I don't even
take a chance when you know we're patrolling the straight
during a ceasefire, right, So you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Shot down our helicopter.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And then Trump's reaction yesterday is we ought to do
something because you had self defense. Want to make clear
of that, and you have to Ah. I didn't like
his language on that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
We'll have to see what happens next. Anyway, there was
a jazzy hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I've hated the Southern Poverty Law Center for so long,
and they're lying statistics and they're treating everything on the
right as a hate group and overlooking all actual hate
groups on the left.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Which affects billions of dollars of corporate and personal donations.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It matters. Yeah, they're a grift, and the fact.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That the media has always going along with them like
they're just a fair arba dura of hate groups.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, man, did the Republicans bring it in the hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We've got some of the highlights coming up next.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Did the Southern Private Loss Center use donor money to
recruit new individuals into those extremist groups?
Speaker 7 (06:20):
All right, assuming you don't want me to answer, since
you're not giving any time to answer, I'm giving.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
You time to answer because that's a yes or did
you use your donor's money for that purpose?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes or no?
Speaker 8 (06:29):
We have asserted that the allegations are false.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
That's part of the SPLC hearing yesterday in front of Congress.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which is neither Southern, doesn't
address poverty, regularly flouts the law. They may have a center.
Other than that, it's all fictional. They are a grift.
They are a professional money raising industry, and the way
they raise money is by terrifying poor people into thinking
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white supremacy is sweeping across the land.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And even without the taking money to support various groups
even without that, just the way they cherry picked anything
that was slightly conservative and called it a hate group
and then ignored anything on the left, and then your
evening newscast and report the Southern Poverty Law Centers now
says right wing extremism is the number one threat to America.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right right, Well, their ridiculousness was exposed. The clip of
the quote I was looking for from Eric Hall for
every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business,
and eventually degenerates into a racket on the SPLC is
absolutely At that point, we're going to play some highlights.
Brandon Gill was just great here. He's talking about an
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obvious oysterman politician.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Who's getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Do you think that this should disqualify him politically from
serving in the Senate?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Having a Nazi tattoo again.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I'm not sure what the line of questions that's going
the SPLC.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
If you're asking me, I'm sorry, go ahead asking.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Me if the SPLC opposes Nazis and Nazis symbols.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
The answer is yes, yep.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
The SPLC is referred to this same tattoo as a
racist skinhead symbolant tattoo. You can see the resemblance there.
You wouldn't want somebody with a tattoo like that in
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, No, that was just to embarrass him on the
news of the day, which was Platiner winning by fifty points.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Jack, you mentioned this off the air, and I agree completely.
One of Brandon Gill's strengths is his completely non grand
standing tone of voice. He's just business, He's just doing business.
This is business.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I love this part.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
Your organization.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
Said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool of
the far that the far right uses to maintain white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Could god, do you believe.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
That the pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
I believe that reproductive liberty is.
Speaker 10 (09:03):
Do you believe that pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
I will tell you what I believe. If you're assest
or no, I can't answer that question yesterday.
Speaker 10 (09:11):
I don't think that pro lifers are white supremacists.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
What I think is that reproductive liberty is a right
that every woman should enjoy.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
And how many babies in the United States that are
aborted or black? About forty percent of abortions nationwide or
of black babies Blacks represent about thirteen percent of the population.
Does that sound like something a white supremacist would oppose?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
What I would say again, is that SPLC supports reproductive.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge,
isn't it?
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Would?
Speaker 9 (09:52):
I mean, I would think you would be able to
defend that if your organization says that. You clearly seem
unable to.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Mister Gil, I'm not sure why you would think I'm
able to do anything.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
You're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro lifers
as racists. Well, what does your organization just hurl around
epithets like that without any justification?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Just or go.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
What we do is I'm giving you the opportunity to
give mister.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Sherman, what's he referring to?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And can you let the witness This is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's what are you referring to?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Question?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Sometimes it is outrageous when you throw on questions and
you don't give people a chance to answer. That guy
had multiple chances to try to explain why the Southern
Poverty Law Center says being pro life is a white
supremacist position because you want to continue white supremacy. Then
he points out Gill points out that, well, that doesn't
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really make any sense sense.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Uh, disproportionately Black support of babies way more than white people.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
So I'm gonna hamana haamana hu manahahahah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So here's where things got a little jazzier. Alvita King
was on hand.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
She is the niece of Martin Luther King Junior, which
I'm against legacies. That doesn't grant her any particular moral weight,
although I found her to be persuasive and smart and wise.
And here she is engaged in an exchange on the
same topic.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Time belongs to the gentleman from Texas. It's now expired,
but he will be able to ask his last question,
and we'll give the witness a chance to respond.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
Right, I'll give my last question to doctor King. Doctor
king Er, our pro lifers, white supremacists.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Pro lifers cannot be quite supremacist. Pro lifeists believe in
life from the wound to the tomb and beyond. Pro
life's fight for every baby in the womb, regardless of
skin color. We have been aborted as blacks in America disproportionately,
and so the white supremacist our Planned Parenthood admitted that
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they do have racist underpending with an agenda to reduce
the black population by abortion.
Speaker 10 (12:09):
That's right, Thank you, doctor King.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Thank you Yeah, Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a
eugenics enthusiast worth mentioning. And then things got really spicy
when soon to be heaved out on her ear jackass
Race Bader Jasmine Crockett decided taking a shot in miss
King was the right thing to do.
Speaker 11 (12:28):
The vast majority of the people on that side of
the isle, And for those of you that are at home.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 11 (12:35):
When I say that side of the isle, I'm talking
about the Republicans, the ones that brought this hearing. And
again you've heard that this is not the first hearing,
but the vast majority of them are white men. White
men are lecturing people of color because the vast majority,
actually any semblance of diversity comes from this side of
the isle. You want to.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Tell people of color who is fighting for who.
Speaker 11 (12:59):
People of color do not feel comfortable or welcomes within
your party. That's why you have to parade someone who
has the name doctor King attached to them so that
people can be confused. Because I have been reading the
comments online and people are like, who is this doctor King?
Because you want them to believe that somehow she espouses
who doctor King was. Yet you've yet to have Mlka
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the third come in here. You've yet to have doctor
Bernice King, the ones that were actually raised by doctor King,
the ones that actually probably understand the teachings of doctor King.
And I just want to be clear because I want
to talk to y'all about what the doctor King had
to say about racism, so that y'all don't get it
twisted and don't get it confused just because you see
the name sitting in this room.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Boy, she's really good at that whole testifying, using a
bunch of words real fast, but never actually making an argument,
just citing who's legitimate and who's not. Make an argument,
not an ad hominem attack, and Miss King responded with
love and compassion, saying, you seem to suggest I'm some
sort of bastard to the King family, but don't worry.
I love you, I forgive you, which is nice. I
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want to squeeze in one more clip in the time
that we have. Chip Roy brought it. He was asking
about Charlie Kirk and whether the regrets listing him as
a hate manger just before he's murdered for being a
hate monger. But I want to go with fifty eight.
Here he's talking about well radical Islam.
Speaker 12 (14:26):
How many extremists Islamic groups do you have of the
fifteen hundred or so organizations you have in your hate map?
Speaker 8 (14:32):
Again, anyone can go to our website.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
I obviously been looking over and can't really find one.
Speaker 11 (14:38):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Again it is the SPLCS.
Speaker 12 (14:42):
The SBLC can provide us a list of the the
Islamic oriented groups do you have in your hate map?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Mister Roy? We don't target any group because of its religion. Really,
I want to be clear about that. Really, Yes, that's
exactly right. We target no group because of its religion.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
We target groups because they express statements and engage in
activities that demean and villain.
Speaker 12 (15:07):
You brought up LGBTQ groups a second ago, So you
brought up lgbt groups a minute ago. So you think
there's a bunch of Islamic groups that are pro LGBTQ.
Is that the position of the SPLC. I just want
to make sure the record is reflecting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That people actually laughed at that. That was a good shot. Yes, unbelievable.
You got fifteen hundred groups on your these are hate
groups list, and anybody who isn't up with trans gets
listed as a hate group.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you including just.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Moms who don't want boys playing in their girls sports,
moms for liberty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That makes you a hate group. But you got no
Muslim affiliated groups of any kind.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Really who are for the death penalty for being gay
or participating in gay sex.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It is a money raising racket.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Splc utterly abandon any mortal underpinning decades ago.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They're a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, Tom McClintock was part of the hearing yesterday, representative
from California. We're gonna talk to him coming up in
just a little bit. But the part that really bothers
me about this the most is here's this organization, Southern
Poverty Law Center, who I've heard quoted my entire adult
life like they were the like the Nobel Prize. It
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was like the definitive are you a hate group or
are you a hate person?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Or whatever? I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
They called the balls and strikes on this sort of
thing and got reported in the mainstream news all the time.
Turns out they're completely frauds, and it got no attention
anywhere unless you have a right wing algorithm on your
Twitter or YouTube feed, or you watched Fox. You didn't
know this hearing happened at all yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
The SBLC will be quoted in The New York Times
tomorrow decrying.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Who is a hate group and who's not?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean, that is pretty disappointing to me. So these
mainstream news outlets that have been quoting him forever didn't
cover this hearings. What's your pushback on some of the
stuff that we've played here? Do you have any I'd
like to hear it.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Congressman Tom McClintock was part of that hearing yesterday. We
will talk to him in moments stay with us, Armstrong
and Getty.
Speaker 13 (17:17):
Did SBLC suggests political groups like Turning Point USA, traditional
Catholic groups, Family Research Council for investigation by the Department
of Justice Parkerson McClintock.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Again, as I said, we identify groups based on the
statements that they make, the activities that they engage in.
Did you those of the criteria that we use?
Speaker 13 (17:36):
Do itjest that these groups be investigated by the Department
of Justice?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Not to my knowledge, that is sent Congressman Tom McClintock
talking to Brian Fair of the thoroughly discredited SPLC. Yesterday,
during that same hearing, we were playing new highlights of
moments ago. Congressman tomac clintock represents the fifth District of California.
Not long ago, Citizens Against Government Waste named him one
of only two perfect votes in the House fighting wasteful
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government spending. Tom McClintock joins US now Congressman, how are you, sir,
I'm doing fine. Tanks boy, was that hearing overdue? I
imagine you found it pretty satisfying.
Speaker 14 (18:18):
Uh. Yes, It's like, you know, turning over rocks and
finding out what's crawling under them. In this case, obviously,
the Department of Justice has an indictment against them. I
guess it'll go to trial in October. They're charged with
wire fraud, bank fraud, a fallse statements, conspiracy to commit
money laundering. But you know, our focus is on the
(18:40):
implications to the government, their collusion with the Biden administration.
Uh and and the violence that they have not only
financed but also instigated.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, men, there's so much about this.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I've hated that group for so long because they get
quoted in the mainstream news all the time, like they
are the sole arbiter of what's a hate group or
a hate crime or whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And you know like CBS Evening News or.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Whatever would act like, well, the Southern Body Law Center
said it, so it must be true.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We find out yesterday it's not even close to accurate. Yeah,
what is their business model? Tom? How does that work?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (19:18):
It's pretty simple. According to the indictments, they funneled four
million dollars to various extremist groups like the KKK at
the same time they're raising money assuring donors that they're
on frontlines fighting the same groups. You remember the Charlottesville riots,
it was a woman was killed. The indictment documents that
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the SPLC had paid one of the organizers of that
Unite the Right rally two hundred and seventy thousand dollars
while he was recruiting agitators and posting inflammatory rhetoric, and
after the riots they're fundraising more than double So obviously
it was a good financial investment.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, and that riot, according to Joe Biden, was what
gave him the impetus to run for president when he
saw that hate, which turns out some of them was
funded by the SBLC.
Speaker 14 (20:11):
And by the way, misquoted Trump, who very clearly condemned
the Nazis that were there that day. But well, you know,
it's not comical about this is the fact they regularly
advised the Justice Department under the Biden administration. You might
remember the famous FBI memo listing traditional Catholic organizations and
(20:35):
extremist groups. Well that was the SPLC.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, and moms who just don't want boys beating up
their girls on the field of play in girls' sports,
they're listed. This hate groups. That's obscene. The long and
short of it, as you know, Tom, is that they
raise tremendous amounts of money based on convincing people that
there's white supremacy lurking beyond every tree. So they have
to create it if it doesn't exist by mislabeling groups
(20:59):
and slamming them as disgusting.
Speaker 14 (21:02):
Well, not not only that, financing the very extremist groups
they tell people they're fighting. This is this is what's
so bizarre about this. I mean, obviously they have there's
enormous harm involved. You know, they declared tip. One of
the things they do is they'll name obvious experience groups
like the KKK, which now turns out the financing. But
(21:23):
they are not Antifa, who they say doesn't exist or
change revenge its responsible attacks on pro lifelyase well, to
take these obvious experience groups like the KKK and then
mix in mainstream conservative groups they don't like to taint
them with the same brush. Now, they declared Turning Point
USA I hate group. The next day, Charlie Kirk was
(21:43):
assassinated by a mad man who said the reason for
his attack was to stop hate. They declared the Family
Research Council the hate group, and that directly motivated a
gunman to shoot up their offices a few years ago,
and you mentioned althea King who's they're hearing, Martin Luther
kings niece. She was singled out by the SBL as
(22:04):
an extremist because she doesn't happen to believe that children
should have gender reassignment surgery.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I loved your college Chip Roy making the point that
so you've got moms who don't want boys beating up
their girls in witmen and girls' sports as a hate group,
but radical Islamic groups that would execute transgender people or
gay people are not listed.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It's just it's a joke. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (22:30):
Well, and I think that the country's now been let
in on the joke, and hopefully this group will no
longer be able to corrupt public the public square the
way it has, or for that matter, target legitimate groups
that are simply participating in the political process.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You mentioned the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I don't think
we've had a chance to talk to you about this
in general. How concerned are you about overt turn of
the kind of political violence we saw in the sixties
and early seventies.
Speaker 14 (23:05):
Well, obviously it's we're watching you to unfold. Not the
first time in the country that we've gone through this
kind of trim oil, but it is obviously being banned
by extreme rhetoric that needs to be toned down.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Congressman Tom mcclintick is online represents the fifth district of California.
You know, you've served on the House Natural Resources Committee
for a long time, and you're part of the subcommittee
on Federal.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Lands and water and power and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
How's how important is America's energy independence right now? I
don't think he can be overstated.
Speaker 14 (23:49):
Of course it can't, and we are energy independent. Unfortunately
in my state of California. We used to be energy independent.
We used to produce more oil than we consumed. We
had forty one bineries operating in the state, but left
wing administration of Gavin Newsom is waged war against fossil
fuels these eight years. We're now down to seven refineries.
(24:11):
Five of them have notified the state they can no
longer do business under the regulations and taxes that have
been imposed on them, and we're importing sixty percent of
the fuel consumed in California now. Our fuel prices are
typically running two dollars a gallon ahead of the rest
of the nation, and that's probably going to get worse
once Iran is behind us and the national fuel prices
(24:36):
dropped back down to two and a half to three
and a half dollars a gallon, California could be at
six to eight dollars a gallon. So yeah, energy into
point pendence is really important. We used to have at
my state, we lost it, and we're paying the price
at the pump every day.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Different topic. This point popped into my head the other day.
You're roughly the same age as as Joe and I are.
You remember the bi centennial nineteen seventy six. Now, I
was a kid, so I wasn't reading all the editorial pages,
and you know, it was pre cable news. But I
don't remember a lot of pushback on the idea that
(25:11):
the United States was a good country for the two
hundred celebration. But here we are headed to the two
hundred and fiftieth, and I thought we worth asking you,
since you're such a fan of American history and the
founding and everything like that, why don't you push back
on those who are writing columns in the New York
Times or kneeling at basketball games or talking on cable
(25:32):
news channels about why we shouldn't be celebrating the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this country.
Speaker 14 (25:38):
Well, don't forget there was a time when the former
vice president of the United States said that America had
been founded on self evident lies.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Right.
Speaker 14 (25:49):
You know that was John C. Calhoun. He was John
Quincy Adams vice president. He was one of the inspirations
for the Confederates. So we've had that attitude throughout the
country in our history before. But you know, when you
and I were growing up, I've said to folks, I've
(26:11):
spent my entire life. Arguing with liberals over the appropriate
size and scope of government, Well, we always agreed on
the fundamentals. We always agreed in freedom of speech. I
might disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to
the death you're right to say it. We all agreed
on constitutional principles and process of law, equal justice under
(26:33):
the law. We all believe that you should be judged
on the content of your character, not the color of
your skin. We shared all of that in common, and
we all were patriotic. We all rooted for America. The
modern left shares none of those principles. And I've suggested
to a lot of my liberal colleagues they now have
(26:53):
far more in common with conservatives than they have with
the far left that's taking over their party.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Have you gotten many the sympathy to that point of
view among your sane democratic colleagues, because what we're talking
about here is neo Marxists who want to tear down
the United States and Western civilization.
Speaker 14 (27:13):
The colleagues that I talked to about this are so
scared the death of the far left. They agree with
what I've just said, but they are scared the death
of the far left because they now control so much
of the energy within the Democratic Party and you cross
them as your peril. I mean, you know, look John
Fetterman for example, right.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, I actually saw a polster say just yesterday that
that's the majority majority of the Democratic Party. Congressman Tom
McClintock of the fifth District of California.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Tom, Great, to talk to you to keep fighting a
good fight.
Speaker 14 (27:45):
Thanks guys, great, got it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yep. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I didn't want to go to this direction with stuff.
Oh but we ought to talk about this. So Jasmine Crockett,
who you quoted earlier, the progressive nut job who's leaving office,
suggest she would also would have stabbed Austin metcalf in
stunning defensive Carmelo Anthony, a case which we have not
talked about, which had its verdict yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We probably ought to get to into that maybe an
hour four. Wow, what a thing to say.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
She's made a career on whipping up anti white racism,
so she's sticking with it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm gonna talk about something less depressing.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Uh Burgh.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Mortality, I get a good story, but uh Burger Joy
I went to yesterday the guy that was working in
the kitchen, well, Burger Jim that's a good story. Oh
Burger Jim, A tale of the ballad of Burger Jim
coming up. Maybe I'll turn it into a story song
like that Kenny Rogers could sing, Yes. But so we
(28:50):
got lots of other stuff on the way.
Speaker 15 (28:51):
Stay here, hads fun founder listed is Hampton's compound for
a record one hundred and fifty two point five million
dollars or two tickets to Game four.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now, I just.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Saw something in the New York Post headline that the
prices are crashing for Game four the way down.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I don't know why that would be exactly. I don't
know anyway.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Tell you what if you're not watching Stanley Cup Finals
playoff hockey. If you ever watch hockey, it's unbelievable. The
series is fabulous. It's tied two to two two two.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes, did we talk about this?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Meta launches America's Workforce Academy. No, it's a Zuckerberg thing.
They're gonna give hundreds of thousands of Americans the skills
to build our country's AI future. The program offers paid
training and electrical plumbing, fiber and installation, and many other trades.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
With a job.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Upon completion, they'll have to give you a you'll they'll
set you up with the job when you're done. No
experience necessary, no regort, no degree required, no cost to
the participant, the fly to the location. They pay for everything,
and it says here because the future is for everyone.
So yeah, there's a huge shortage of the workers needed
(30:11):
to build these gigantic data centers. They can't get enough
people to build them. I think that's it. It's also
partially our technology is going to destroy the working class,
and we don't want to be the all time villain
of villains in the world history. So you know, all
those things are coming together in one spot. And speaking
of having a job, my boys and I went to
(30:34):
a burger joint in Sacramento, California yes day. Old sac
Fanny ANNs my son really likes their burgers. I've been
going to that place, I realized for thirty years, which
is right crazy, And yesterday I had a chicken sandwich.
Was the first time I'd ever tried anything different in
thirty years at that restaurant. Wow, boys had the cheeseburger. Anyway,
So we go up there, we ordered the cheeseburgers and
everything like that, and I don't know how the conversation
(30:55):
started with the cook, but the dude taking my order
and everything, and he looked about fifty said something about
been I've been here since seven thirty this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He said, whoa. He said, yeah, I got to get it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'm all alone here in the kitchen, so I got
to get everything lined up and ready to go, you know,
so I can pull this off by myself. And I said,
what time you get off? He said, I get off
around four thirty. He said, I get to go home,
but then I got to take a quick break and
head to my other job where I worked from five
until midnight. I said, I said, well, good for you.
I said, you know, you could just go on the
government dole and let the taxpayers do it for a
(31:30):
year work And he said f that, And I thought,
why is he a guy that gets up at seven
thirty in the morning, takes a half hour break before
he starts his other job, gets home at midnight, saying
f that to the idea of going on the dole.
(31:50):
Where is other people immediately dedicate their life to work
in the system so they don't have to work.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And they'd say f that to his reality or call
him stupid.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I suppoh, yeah, well, what is there anything other than
just your upbringing?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Is that the whole thing?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
That's a lot of it. There's probably a genetic component
to it, but yeah, you can definitely divide the world
into those two kinds of people.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And because you don't know this unless you you know,
you've been to Sacramento, but old Sack, you pull into
Old Sack.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You're staring right at the Capitol.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I said to my kids, looking at that giant capital,
which is like the size of the Capitol in DC.
I mean, it's a giant building where the governor does
his thing. I said, there's where my tax money goes,
lots and lots and lots of money.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And then we pull in there and there's.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
A guy that just, you know, horrified at the idea
of taking tax money as opposed to I don't know
what an other job was, but I would guess that
it's not much more glamorous than the one making burgers
as opposed to people who absolutely without any shame or
or you know, feeling of this isn't a good idea
(32:54):
at all, happy to live off of other people going.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
To work and lay and be layabouts working age.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Male participation in the workforce is the lowest it's ever
been since the Depression.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, we really, this is not a question that isn't important.
We should know why one is that guy and one
is the other guy, so that we can make sure
our society pushes more people toward the other. So we
don't have the highest number of working age men ever
(33:25):
as layabouts.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So what I'm about to say is either very profound
or super stupid. People only do what they can do.
If you can't survive laying around and smoking pot, you're
not gonna. We've made a society where a significant number
of working age men can do that, and then shame
(33:50):
on us.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I guess of the two situations, the one that's harder
to explain by far is the guy who gets up
and works two jobs all day long.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
The other one's easy to change in human nature.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, I can get my Maslow's hierarchy of needs, food
and shelter paid for by someone else without.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Working as sign me up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, Well, you've got to design a society. You know,
you got to a person who would never murder and
a person who's willing to murder. You design your society
to severely discourage the aberrant behavior that you don't want
laying about and sucking off the teat of the state,
your fellow taxpayers, is aberrant behavior.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Unless you're disabled or severely you know, you know, held
back or whatever, it's abhorrent behavior in it ought to
be punished limited.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's just so basic.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I feel like I'm in crazy land having to say
that out loud.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, we're gonna run out of those guys, though, aren't
we Unless we do something culturally different or structurally different
with the incentives, We're gonna run out of those guys
who are willing to bust their ass like that rather
than take other people's Because the problem with that is
is Margaret Thatcher famously said, eventually.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You run out of other people's money. How'd you like
the chicken sandwich?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It was very good, But I love a cheeseburger. Had
I had feedernade? That's the German term for when you
wish you'd ordered what somebody else ordered.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Wow, you took on the wild side, but it's time
to get back to the good old burger.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
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