July 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour Two of A&G features...
- Our guest, Mike Lyons, talks to Jack about the new US strikes on Iran...
- Messi scores for Argentina!...
- Jack has more details on the NYT sleep study...
- Workplace violence training!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Shoe, Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The US response has increased intensity eight times as many
targets were hit compared to the last time the US
responded to Iran firing on ships in the Strait. The
targets include some sixty Revolutionary Guards small boats. Sencom also
says the strikes included defense systems, command and control networks,
coastal radar sites, and anti ship capabilities. And we have
video of the US strikes hitting in Bandarabas. Iran responded
(00:48):
by firing into their neighbors Kuwait and Bahrain. The official
Iranian news agency claims to have hit some eighty five
targets in those countries. Details on the number of targets
are not confirmed by other sources. But sirens sounded in
Await and boff rang.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No, this isn't a rerun. We aren't still on vacation
and you're listening to old shows. We are back and
this is new. We are back at war with Iran.
It would seem Iran struck several ships in the Strait
violating the MoU According to Trump, which he says is
now dead. We hit ran pretty hard. I guess we'll
(01:21):
find out how hard when we ask Mike lines here
in a second. And then Iran struck the countries around
them as they like to do. Where it goes from now,
I do not know. Welcome Mike Lyons to the Armstrong
Engetty Show again. Mike served with various military organizations in
both the United States and Europe throughout his career. Got
his degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hey, Mike, what did you think of that? How big
a deal was this? How hard to strike?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Was this just a like a little love tap to
let you know we're still paying attention?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Or did we hit them hard? Yeah? Thanks for having
me back.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I've always thought that this has been the end of
escalation management from the very beginning sort of. I published
an article and were journal about that, and sent Com
is reporting eighty targets hit with precision munition. So this
is not a proportional response back.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This is not a pit for.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Tat what we had been doing good in the past,
and so I think that that's a good sign. I
do believe now it just gets back to you know,
what are those targets. It looks like Iranian air defense systems,
command and control networks, the coastal radar sites, those are
so key. It looks like some of their anti ship
messile capabilities now are more out in the open and
(02:31):
around Revolutionary Guard Corps. I mean the small boat. You know,
it just shows you the target rich environment. It is
from a military perspective. When we stop, probably stops too soon,
and it looks like our response back is disproportional.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, Trump just said a few minutes ago, we're probably
going to hit them hard again tonight. So you're saying
there's plenty of stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
To hit, Yeah, no question, And I think you know
we were. You've got to figure out a way still
to you know, make sure that it's it's not completely
destroyed when the country's you know, when we finally move
this thing forward. And so I'm for this, you know,
this preparable deterrence going after some of their revenue capabilities,
but not necessarily destroying you know, entire oil fields and
(03:11):
entire things. But but there are quasi military targets that
would make them very easy to repair when the time comes,
but set them back when it comes to trying to
raise revenue and things like that. So there's there's still
many military targets to hit, many many to go after,
and we're at the cleanup phase of that now, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So there was some reporting over the weekend that Trump
had decided a while back we were going to use
our military and force that straight back open, and Saudi
Arabia talked him out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Uh So, I guess that still might be on the.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Table if Iran's not willing to you know, stop firing
on ships.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, that would really ramp up with our off tempo,
the pace that our military is working. We'd have to
bring maybe some more destroyers and cruisers into the into
the region, even though we have three terriers strike groups
right now that they're more focused on the aircraft and
the carriers themselves. But that's you know, a mission that
we could do. It could take months, but it means
(04:09):
really softening up any of the coastal batteries that seem
to exist that are there, the fact that they can
get off any shots whatsoever, either using drones or any
kind of you know, precision munitions to show they still
have this capability.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, Trump's over there talking to all the NATO leaders
the big NATO meeting, and the NATO Secretary General said
this morning that what the United States did was perfectly appropriate,
had to be done, I mean, and that's not the
way NATO's really been talking about this whole Iran operation
the whole time. So is there any chance we get
(04:42):
any help from any of our NATO allies on this
at this point?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
You know, Mark Brute's influence on Trump, to me, is
a masterclass and how to manage him? Right. All these
other NATO leaders are just can't manage Trump, right. McCrone
thinks he's smarter than him. You know. The Germans tried,
you know, to be more technical. Let's say Keir Starmer.
That's you know, he failed miserably. But I think I
think Route cracks the code. He validates them publicly. As
(05:08):
soon as Trump got on with that. The MoU Is
over Route couldn't say it any quicker. I'm with you
in the same breath, right, So very clearly he's because
a Trump whisper when it comes to that. Now, the
downside is that he's really only managing him. He's not,
you know, maybe not advising him, but he at least
speaks his language. He's not trying to be Macron, He's
not trying to be some other UH leader that that's
(05:31):
trying to be Trump's peer. He lets he lets kind
of Trump be Trump. And I think from what we
are right now, I think that's still a good thing.
I think it's a good thing for NATO. I think
it's going to keep you, you know, well in sant
of NATO.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Trump's talking as we're talking to you, so he's saying
more things like we may put the blockade on the
Straight of Hormuz back in place, so we might be
back right back to where we were two and a
half weeks ago by the end of tonight.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, the whip song is challenging to the military, going
back back and forth again. The blockade just means repositioning
some of those ships. I think most of the military
community that I had spoken to didn't think we had
finished the job, so to speak. We gave the president
enough leverage to start to talk. I think he needed
that for making sure that oil prices didn't go crazy,
(06:18):
and he was keeping one eye on the politics of this.
But I think those in the military we felt that
it really wasn't finished that this campaign should have gone
on longer than thirty seven days is really what it
went on for. I should have went on at least
forty five, even sixty. It should have had a better
logical conclusion with a clear sign of the US victory.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well, the Wall Street journals reporting today is that they
were making no progress whatsoever, like zero on the whole
details around nuclear weapons, which was what the whole war
was about. So which doesn't surprise me in the least. So,
what's the worst case scenario? Worst case scenario obviously is
that Oram gets a nuclear weapon, but we prosecute this war.
(06:59):
We need to go forward and put pressure on us.
What what should we watch out for that could go wrong?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Well, you know that they had some kind of internal
revolution and that you have this humanitarian crisis that exists
inside that the country because it implosed United States gets
blamed for that or something. I think I don't think
we have to worry about. You know, there's potentially some
of our military targets, but there's not a situation that
(07:25):
I could see that we're in trouble now unless the
Chinese decide to enter the fixture of they decide, which
I think should have been part of the MoU anyway,
I think that we should have made sure that no
other countries were going to come in and assist a Ron.
You know that that MoU is all front loaded for
the Iranians. It was you know, all the all the
United States activities were on the back side of it.
(07:48):
We don't want the Chinese in there, we don't want
any other countries in there, and we often need stronger
Gulf states to make sure that they're focused on making
sure we take this to the end. But but what
goes wrong? I think the real the real challenge would
be more inside of Iran humanitarian crisis. Ninety million people
will have to feed and keep water, and if the
Ranian government collapses, you know, how do they do that?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So also part of the Wall Street General Reporting day
was that Iran has gotten back a fair amount of
their capability. Was that with the help of China and Russia,
that they rebuilt all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I think they just basically took it out of the mountains,
and they had a lot to begin with. And again
from a scale perspective, they still can't deploy hundreds at
a time. But when you have a lot when you sneak,
you know, take a thousand rockets, let's say, or a
thousand missiles and hide them in the mountains and hide
them in places if you look at the geography of Iran,
easy to do. And all that they're doing now is
(08:45):
just deploying those that are out there. So that's where
there's more targets for us to kind of go after.
I think that's really what happened. There's no industrial capability
to fix anything that's not really on the table. It's
the fact that just shows you the level of ballistic
missile capability. They always had tens of thousands of missiles
that they had that had built them, been ready for
the site.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Are any of those countries surrounding around that keep getting
hit by the Iranians going to finally like really join
us in this battle.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well that's another great question. And you know, it just
shows you how Middle Eastern politics are, you know more
in some ways based on religion. A lot of it
has to do with that, you know, the Shia Sunni
divide that exists in that part of the world, and
so that they you know, you can't change the geography, right,
(09:35):
I mean, Katar and the UAE are doing what they
can to avoid the straits, right. They're building tunnels and
things like that, but they should have been building them
before the thought he's already did that. They've got a
pipeline going to the Red Sea. But the politics are
just not what we're used to, and that they have
to they recognize that there are what they are.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, I have a feeling there's a chance we might
be talking to you again later this week after a
couple of more rounds of strug.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Mike's in Iran Mike Lyons military analyst.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You can follow him on Twitter at m A j
is in Major at Major m Aj Mike Lyons, I
go there whenever something happens to see what you thought
about it. Thanks Mike, Thanks for av me the war's
back on. I think clearly, well, let's play this just
because we got a moment. Find my sheet.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Here, play play forty two to me, I.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Think it's over. I don't want to deal with them
with this gum. You know what scum is there? Gum,
there's sick people. They're led by six people. There's something
wrong with them. They're cuckoo. Far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That he was asked about the MoU, the memorandum of
Understanding that you know, brought about the sixty day cease
fire and they get their money back before we start
the nuclear talks, which never happened. Shock shock shock. Trump's
saying it's over. They're cuckoo, It's over. I hope he
means it, because he says this sort of stuff about
Putin or the Mullahs or the IRGC, and then you know,
(11:12):
by the end of the day he'll say, no, he
talked to do a guy, and he sounds like he's
a it's really exciting.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
JD.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Vans will come out and say, you know, it's really cool,
is they they now understand that they've been doing the
wrong thing all these years, which was just the lamest
thing that has ever come out of Jade Vance's mouth. Oh, anyway,
does Trump change his tune on this? I do not
know if we'll have more on this topic a little
bit later, partially because Trump's talking about it as we speak.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So we got other.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Stuff on the way. I want to get to we
didn't play enough of the mom Donnie fourth of July address.
I've got some stuff on exercise, a little more on
that sleep study that I wanted to get to, so
stick around please.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't know if it's a game or a match.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Do you called a soccer game or a soccer match
or can you use both? Anyway, A number of people
are calling it one of the best of those that's
ever occurred in the World Cup. Yesterday, Argentina, the defending
World Cup champ, was down to nothing at like the
eighty minute mark. They play ninety minutes, which is way
too many minutes for me. So I had heard that
(12:29):
Argentina made a comeback in the last ten minutes, which
they did. They came back and they won three to two,
including their star player Lionel Messi, who's considered by many
people to be the greatest soccer player of all time.
And he's old now and he's this would be his
last World Cup, so he scores one of the games.
So I did watch in real time the last ten
(12:50):
or so minutes of the dang thing, and it was very,
very exciting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It was too nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Egypt, it was good about to pull off one of
the great upsets in World Cup history, and Argentina comes back.
But I got a couple of goal calls here for
you they're both in Spanish. This one is from I
don't remember what channel from this is from, but this
is on one of the goals help us out. It's
(13:32):
because they don't have other sports they care about in
these countries that they get so excited. I mean, MESSI
was just bawling like a child, just crying his eyes
out because it would have been the end of his
World Cup career had they lost, and it looked like
they were going to lose, and they came back and won,
and we just we have so many sports in year
round and move from this and that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, I get.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Excited too, But man, they act like their lives on
the line for these things. And I still contend that
if we cared about soccer and our best players played soccer,
we would dominate soccer around the world. Can you imagine
if Steph Curry had played soccer?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Anyway, that's ugly American talk right there. I heard this one.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I like this one from Telemundo because the guy gets
so excited he just runs out of gas.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
No Messy, right, are you okay? Sir Canino?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
See how emotionally good about this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's a bigger deal to them than it is to
us for whatever reason. Guy, Oh, it was exciting. Like
I said, though I'm understanding it more and I'm able
to watch it a little more. Oh I'm I did
say earlier. So thirty three million people tuned into USA Belgium,
(15:23):
which we lost.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We looked horrible.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Biggest US crowd for soccer ever in the history of
the sport, thirty three million people. We got this text.
Maybe the thirty three million people watching the soccer is
a true barometer of how many people came into the
country illegally when Biden was in charge. You might be
right about that. Maybe that's just because we let in
so many people from other countries where they care about soccer.
(15:48):
I can't imagine myself watching the full ninety minutes. So
it's just I I'm trying to buy into what I
see about the poetry of the game and the rhythm
that you get used to of the moving the ball
up and down the field, and then the rare scoring
moments being so much more important than in our stupid
American sports, where you score every two minutes and scores
(16:10):
no matter. Using their words, not mine, but I just
haven't been able to get into the flow of the
magic of the poetry of the game or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It just looks to.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Me like hockey on grass. Where So Argentina the defending
world champions. So they scored two goals last night, and
I think they've had ten World Cup games in a
row where they've scored two goals or more, which is
the all time record. Two goals in an hour and
(16:42):
a half is just not enough action for me.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't know, and I'm not part of the TikTok generation.
It's just I need a little more out of my sport.
But anyway, that one was exciting and I watched it.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And how many people are gonna watch now that the
United States is out? I don't know if the ratings
will drop of I don't know if I'll watch anymore.
I suppose I will, or maybe I won't, or maybe
I'll catch the highlights. So I want to finish up
on the sleep study they had in the New York Times,
combined with an exercise thing that they've got. This is
all the latest information meta studies with many, many thousands
(17:18):
of people. I really think this is valuable information worth hearing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Coming up, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
There's a new Dolly parton musical apparently is it going
to be on Broadway about her life. I've always liked
Dolly Parton since I was a little kid, But I
feel like enough with Dolly Parton already. Just I don't know,
she's the new Betty White. She's an old person that
we're all supposed to just be enthralled with constantly.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Eh, I'm not eight, non Dolly Parton. Just enough with
Dolly Parton already.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So I took a graduate statistics class many years ago
in college, and luckily I had a very very good
teacher who hammered the point home all of the time.
He would hit you with a number, new study says,
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, let's think about
(18:13):
that for a second. And he would delve into all
of the reasons why the stat that came out of
this particular study may be incredibly misleading. And he did
that with everything that was like his main thing, which
I think was good because Joe always quotes the famous
(18:35):
Mark Twain saying about statistics, there's three kinds of lies, lies,
damned lies, and statistics. Because it's really easy to tell
any kind of story you want to tell with statistics
for all the reasons we're about to get into here.
But so I like doing that and I think it's helpful,
(18:56):
and the media does a terrible job of that. Part
of it is the clicks world, so that if you
have a study that says, and we talked about this
a couple of months back, because it was a New
York Times article, swimming much less beneficial as an exercise
than running, way more people die doing swimming as an
(19:21):
exercise is running incredibly misleading headline. But that's all the
further you get with most mainstream media coverage. They give
you a thirty second version and then they move on
and you're incredibly misinformed. You'd have been better off if
you hadn't heard the story at all. We'll get into
that particular thing here in just a little bit, but
I started on the sleep thing last hour, and I
wanted to pay that off. I like meta analysis, and
(19:43):
this is what they are doing in the New York
Times with this doctor over the weekend. That's when you
look at lots of different studies or lots of different
big studies, and you put it all.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Together and you kind of go from there.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
As opposed to one PhD did a small study at
a university somewhere and they can't replicate it, which is
the sort of thing that gets repeated in the media
all the time that stuff is practically worthless. These are
meta studies, and with these metas studies, they found that
the highest mortality rates were with people who sleep nine
(20:20):
to eleven hours a night. Eight hours is not the
magic number. Risk doesn't really rise much below eight until
you get down to below six. You have to get
less than six hours of sleep before you start to
match the death rate of people mortality risk health risk
(20:41):
of people who sleep nine to eleven hours, So between
like six and a half and.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Nine, it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
About the same and it just depends on different people
have different amounts they need. And this was good news
to me because I get between six and a half seven.
That's about what I live with. That's what I feel
best with, and it says here that's perfectly fun. But
when you're getting into the stuff I'm talking about on
how you can be misled about these sorts of things
is why do people in the nine to eleven hours
(21:10):
a night category have worse health outcomes world There's all
kinds of different reasons. Perhaps if you're sleeping that much,
it's because you're depressed. Perhaps, if you're sleeping that much,
it's because you've got some sort of injury or sickness
that causes you to sleep that much. That has nothing
to do with how much you sleep. It just it
(21:32):
keeps you in bed a lot more. You know, it's
pretty easy to imagine these sorts of things. But six
and a half hours of sleep a night perfectly. Okay,
there's one other number I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Hit you with in here, bah bah bah.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Studies show an association between sleep duration and mortality. Often
find that the lowest risk of mortality clusters around seven hours.
So seven is more of a magic number than eight,
according to this meta analysis. I don't know where eight
came from originally, it's been around my whole life. I
don't know who religionally decided that, but we really should
(22:08):
throw around the number seven as the number that most
of us need. You know, somewhere on either side of that,
I need a little less. Joeways talks about he needs
a little more, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's not eight.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That's a little higher than we need. Now to the
exercise stuff, which I thought was really really interesting. A
review of a whole bunch of different tests averaged together
many tens of thousands of people found that exercise lowered
mortality risk by thirteen percent. I'm a little disappointed that it's.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Not more than that.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I wanted it to be more than that thirteen percent
eight nothing, but it ain't size I wanted. But we
talked about that swimming study that came out a while
all back that found that swimming didn't lower mortality rates,
but running did, and that was the headline everybody ran with.
And then they went about a half inch deep and
no more. As it says here by this doctor doing
(23:04):
the meta analysis and using their brain to think about this,
does that mean that swimming isn't effective as an exercise. No,
it does not. When you look more closely at the
data in the appendix of the study, which you know
the CBS Evening News isn't going to do. They're just
going to tell you swimming actually does not lower your
mortality rate. Isn't that interesting? In other news Taylor Swift's wedding.
(23:27):
When you look at the appendix of the study, which
media I would stone apparently have time to do, swimmers
were more much more likely to not engage in other
positive health behaviors. For a variety of reasons, swimmers don't
do the other good things you should be doing to
lower your risk of.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Death that runners do.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
For instance, only about five percent of frequent runners smoke.
It doubles for swimmers. Twice as many swimmers smoke as runners.
Right there, you're going to have a major difference. I
was kind of struck by the fact that people that
are regular runners, five percent out of them smoke. One
out of twenty regular runners smokes.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's kind of surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
For swimmers, it's one out of ten. Swimmers are almost
were also more likely to have high blood pressure way
more and to have a family history of cancer. One
explanation is that doctors may recommend swimming as a low
impact activity for people who are overweight or have other
health problems. It's easier to do better for your joints
(24:30):
and all that sort of stuff than running. So that's
people that are less healthy to start with, so their
risk of mortality goes up. That's just a for instance,
And I would encourage y'all whenever you hear any of
these statistics. First of all, if they give you the
thirty to forty five second version of any statistic about anything.
(24:52):
You gotta dig into it because you almost certainly were
missing a whole bunch of context. I mean, I don't
remember a time whenever I've dug into a headline story
with a big shocking statistic where it doesn't turn out
there's some explanation for it. Oh okay, swimmers smoke twice
as much as runners or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It is. Same with the sleep thing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Oh okay, you don't sleeping ten hours a day or
nine hours a day isn't going to kill me. It's
that people that sleep that much tend to have other problems.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So so I'm going to continue to sleep by six
and a half to seven hours, and I'm going to
continue to exercise.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, just in general.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
They have found, We've talked about this a lot, found
that exercises that include short bursts of energy are really
really good for us. For some reason, I guess that's
the way we're designed. You know, you're walking across the
serengetti as a caveman, and all of a sudden you
see an antelope and you have to run really really
fast and hope you hit it with this beer. That's
what we're kind of built for. So those short bursts
of energy are really really good for you, and all
(25:56):
kinds of stuff around weight training, which I love doing,
but weight training is so good for your brain, not
just your body, but really really good for your brain
and send some sort of signals apparently to your brain
that we're still alive, we're still needed, muscles and brain
are still needed, We're still doing something. I'm not still
doing something, but it tricks my brain into thinking, so
(26:16):
so it'll stave off dementia and keep you in better shape. Anyway,
I hope that was of some use to you. I
have a bunch of other stuff I need to get to.
I can't wait to read this thing. Elon Musk said
the other day about why America is exceptional, pushing back
against Mayor Mamdani and his speech that he gave over
(26:38):
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are exceptional, we're exceptional in bad ways. So we'll get
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will say this as a guy who currently exercises regularly,
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and I've never really had a time where as sedentary
of my life, but I've had periods where I didn't
exercise as much as I did now. And I know
how hard it is to get started if you've been
out of the groove for a while, it's really really
hard to get started. But I can tell you once
you get started, once you get going, it's going to
be so much easier. You just got to make yourself
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do it, just like all kinds of other stuff we
have to make ourselves do regularly, clean the house, whatever
it is. I'm on a writing kick right now where
I'm trying to write every single day and I'm trying
to make myself do it, and I don't want to
do it, and I'm hoping that if I make myself
do it every day, it'll finally come naturally. Exercise is
certainly worked that way for a lot of people. Enough
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of my preaching about that.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I hurt myself exercising.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Though always or just recently.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Just recently, two days ago, I go to sit down
in like a chest press machine, and I sat down
on the chair and I'm about ready to lift the
weight and I just pulled my head back and all
of a sudden, I feel this pop and pulled it
like a neck muscle or something.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
But so basically, just the activity of sitting down, you
hurt yourself. Yes, you aren't even to the lifting weights.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No, No, I had to get up.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I think you need to start a lot slower if
just sitting down is hurting you. Yeah, did you crack
your head against the machine or no, I was.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Just getting it into proper position. Is I did something
with my neck?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
But it's just I guess part of being older.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But what kind of gym do you go to?
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I mean I would say it is sort of a
family gym. I mean, you know, people of all ages. Yeah,
I uh.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I go to a gym where there aren't that many
super studs there just every once in a while.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't need that kind of gym at this point
in my life.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just it's too much grunting, too many dropping weights.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I can't stand that. Yeah, the guy that needs to
show off for the whole gym.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
God, there's one guy that comes to my gym, and
luckily I don't cross paths with him very often, but
he has to just scream everything. He just all right,
we get it, you're lifting a lot of weight. Good
for you, But come on, dude, I mean, it's just
it's comedic. It's like it's a Saturday Night Live bit.
It's so over the top. And then he always has
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to drop the weights. He can't set them down clang
by boom and good for you. He's one of the
guys that wears the tank tops with the like the
holes are really big on the side of the tank top,
so it's like you're basically shirtless.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
He's one of those guys too good for you. And
he smells horrible.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You can you see he walks by and it's just
a cloud of odor, screaming, dropping weights and you smell horrible.
I have gone before where he's there, and I think
I'll skip today or I'll.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Come back tomorrow. I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh, I just saw something on the TV about Caitlyn Clark,
the basketball player red an interesting piece in the National Review.
I got to get to an hour three. That league
is making such a mistake. Best thing that ever happened
to the WNBA ever is Caitlyn Clark. They voted for
players voted the other day for All Star. They voted
her as the eleventh best guard. She might be the
(30:49):
best player ever in the WNBA history. They voted her
currently as the eleventh best guard in the league because
they all hate her because she's white and she's straight.
Really interesting story. Maybe we'll get to that inw ur
three lots on the way, Stay.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Here, Armstrong. Yeah, we just had a fireworks a plane built.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And built to ten seventy six. Can you tell me
if you had to, I guess any further information about
the fireworks two hundred feed HL two to fifty AHL.
But we just started to bang on the plane, so
we'll have to take a look at I want to
get to the gate, and we're just hoping it was
just the mortar that went off underneath, but definitely felt
the big bang. There have been multiple reports as you
can imagine the city's are where. They said they would
(31:38):
notify the Chicago police, but you know, I don't know
what they'll do.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So did the plane actually get hit by fireworks?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
I think of it by a mortar. They heard a
bang on the plane. I think like a mortar hit it.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Do they teach you at pilot school to be just
extra monotone no matter what's going on as that? And
I'm not even trying to be jokey or sarcastic here.
I wonder if that's to deal with a crisis easier
that no matter what happens. Go at the somebody shooting
explosives as Roger Tower. We'd like you to know that
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if we could stop the explosives that are hitting the plane.
We'd appreciate that click, just to keep things calm. They're
always so monotone no matter. It's like the guy we
had a couple of weeks ago, who actually is a
friend of a friend of mine, talking about we have
a family that was exposed to a bola on the plane,
and just want to let you know we need to
test them for a bola as soon as we lent.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guess they're just supposed to stay calm.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I want to talk about the workplace violence training I took.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Have you taken that yet, Michael, Yeah, I took that one.
That's why you're not violent. Yeah, that's why you're so calm.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I want to talk about the workplace violent training that
I found quite hilarious. First this, we should talk to
this guy. I co founded Wikipedia. Now I'm banned for life.
This guy Larry Sanger. He and another guy started Wikipedia
back in two thousand and one with the admirable, game
changing goal of democratizing information. It's known as the world's
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greatest encyclopedia that has ever existed.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Wikipedia. I know a lot of you have troubles with Wikipedia.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I used to use it every day prior to chat
GPT and Grock and Claude and all that sort of stuff.
I used Wikipedia every day. I don't think i've used
it since I started using chatbots. And we also knew
it got biased, which is what this co founder, Larry
Sanger says he started in two thousand and one. They
wanted to democratize information and have all of it be
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out there and anybody could get it for free. But
after Sanger left Wikipedia, he watched in dismay, he says,
I'm quoting him as the site I'd created began to
drift from its founding mission. Ideological bias took hold, pages
were whitewashed, left leaning outlets came to dominate sourcing, and
a small group of administrators grew beholden more to each
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other than to any constitutional framework.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This is from one of.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
The guys who invented and started Wikipedia, who noticed that
it started to slide left and they became all about
trying to please each other rather than have, you know, uh,
straight down the middle factual information. It reminds me of
that saying, and I don't remember where it came from.
I know our friend Tim Sanderfer has said it before.
(34:33):
Any organization not specifically designed to be conservative drifts leftward
over time, and I would say based on watching things,
even ones that were specifically designed to be conservative, in
some cases drift leftward over time. It's got something to
do with the iron law, bureaucracy, and just whatever it is,
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everything drifts leftward. Last week, this original co founder of
wikiped launched an effort to reform Wikipedia from within, only
to be met with a coordinated effort to ridicule, discredit,
and undermine him, culminating in a lifetime ban. On Monday,
the guy who started Wikipedia with another dude got banned
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for life from Wikipedia, and he says, I knew Wikipedia's
disciplinary processes were bad, but I had never experienced them myself.
He He goes on to talk about how one of
the miracles of the Internet age has abandoned truth and
evolved into an emblem of our censorious age, and what
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his band reveals about the culture that allowed it. Guys
started Wikipedia now says it's so off the rails that
he tried to reform it he got banned for life.
So well, you know, I wasn't using Wikipedia anymore, Like
I said, I use chatbots for everything, and I'm pretty
happy with them. Most of the time, but how long
until they drift so far leftward that they're unusable like
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Wikipedia did?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How much time I got my girl thirty seconds. I
don't have much time.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I'll have to talk about my violence training, which makes
me very very angry later makes me want to punch
a coworker. The fact that I have to put this
off until hour three. We'll also get to that the
way the WNBA is handling the best thing that ever
happened to them, Caitlin Clark. And this is not a
sports story. This is a cultural politics story. It's pretty
(36:25):
darn interesting. If you miss that for some reason, get
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand
Speaker 3 (36:34):
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The US response has increased intensity eight times as many
targets were hit compared to the last time the US
responded to Iran firing on ships in the Strait. The
targets include some sixty Revolutionary Guards small boats. Sencom also
says the strikes included defense systems, command and control networks,
coastal radar sites, and anti ship capabilities. And we have
video of the US strikes hitting in Bandarabas. Iran responded
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by firing into their neighbors Kuwait and Bahrain. The official
Iranian news agency claims to have hit some eighty five
targets in those countries. Details on the number of targets
are not confirmed by other sources. But sirens sounded in
Await and boff rang.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No, this isn't a rerun. We aren't still on vacation
and you're listening to old shows. We are back and
this is new. We are back at war with Iran.
It would seem Iran struck several ships in the Strait
violating the MoU According to Trump, which he says is
now dead. We hit ran pretty hard. I guess we'll
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find out how hard when we ask Mike lines here
in a second. And then Iran struck the countries around
them as they like to do. Where it goes from now,
I do not know. Welcome Mike Lyons to the Armstrong
Engetty Show again. Mike served with various military organizations in
both the United States and Europe throughout his career. Got
his degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hey, Mike, what did you think of that? How big
a deal was this? How hard to strike?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Was this just a like a little love tap to
let you know we're still paying attention?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Or did we hit them hard? Yeah? Thanks for having
me back.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I've always thought that this has been the end of
escalation management from the very beginning sort of. I published
an article and were journal about that, and sent Com
is reporting eighty targets hit with precision munition. So this
is not a proportional response back.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This is not a pit for.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Tat what we had been doing good in the past,
and so I think that that's a good sign. I
do believe now it just gets back to you know,
what are those targets. It looks like Iranian air defense systems,
command and control networks, the coastal radar sites, those are
so key. It looks like some of their anti ship
messile capabilities now are more out in the open and
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around Revolutionary Guard Corps. I mean the small boat. You know,
it just shows you the target rich environment. It is
from a military perspective. When we stop, probably stops too soon,
and it looks like our response back is disproportional.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, Trump just said a few minutes ago, we're probably
going to hit them hard again tonight. So you're saying
there's plenty of stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
To hit, Yeah, no question, And I think you know
we were. You've got to figure out a way still
to you know, make sure that it's it's not completely
destroyed when the country's you know, when we finally move
this thing forward. And so I'm for this, you know,
this preparable deterrence going after some of their revenue capabilities,
but not necessarily destroying you know, entire oil fields and
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entire things. But but there are quasi military targets that
would make them very easy to repair when the time comes,
but set them back when it comes to trying to
raise revenue and things like that. So there's there's still
many military targets to hit, many many to go after,
and we're at the cleanup phase of that now, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So there was some reporting over the weekend that Trump
had decided a while back we were going to use
our military and force that straight back open, and Saudi
Arabia talked him out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Uh So, I guess that still might be on the.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Table if Iran's not willing to you know, stop firing
on ships.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, that would really ramp up with our off tempo,
the pace that our military is working. We'd have to
bring maybe some more destroyers and cruisers into the into
the region, even though we have three terriers strike groups
right now that they're more focused on the aircraft and
the carriers themselves. But that's you know, a mission that
we could do. It could take months, but it means
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really softening up any of the coastal batteries that seem
to exist that are there, the fact that they can
get off any shots whatsoever, either using drones or any
kind of you know, precision munitions to show they still
have this capability.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, Trump's over there talking to all the NATO leaders
the big NATO meeting, and the NATO Secretary General said
this morning that what the United States did was perfectly appropriate,
had to be done, I mean, and that's not the
way NATO's really been talking about this whole Iran operation
the whole time. So is there any chance we get
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any help from any of our NATO allies on this
at this point?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
You know, Mark Brute's influence on Trump, to me, is
a masterclass and how to manage him? Right. All these
other NATO leaders are just can't manage Trump, right. McCrone
thinks he's smarter than him. You know. The Germans tried,
you know, to be more technical. Let's say Keir Starmer.
That's you know, he failed miserably. But I think I
think Route cracks the code. He validates them publicly. As
(05:08):
soon as Trump got on with that. The MoU Is
over Route couldn't say it any quicker. I'm with you
in the same breath, right, So very clearly he's because
a Trump whisper when it comes to that. Now, the
downside is that he's really only managing him. He's not,
you know, maybe not advising him, but he at least
speaks his language. He's not trying to be Macron, He's
not trying to be some other UH leader that that's
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trying to be Trump's peer. He lets he lets kind
of Trump be Trump. And I think from what we
are right now, I think that's still a good thing.
I think it's a good thing for NATO. I think
it's going to keep you, you know, well in sant
of NATO.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Trump's talking as we're talking to you, so he's saying
more things like we may put the blockade on the
Straight of Hormuz back in place, so we might be
back right back to where we were two and a
half weeks ago by the end of tonight.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, the whip song is challenging to the military, going
back back and forth again. The blockade just means repositioning
some of those ships. I think most of the military
community that I had spoken to didn't think we had
finished the job, so to speak. We gave the president
enough leverage to start to talk. I think he needed
that for making sure that oil prices didn't go crazy,
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and he was keeping one eye on the politics of this.
But I think those in the military we felt that
it really wasn't finished that this campaign should have gone
on longer than thirty seven days is really what it
went on for. I should have went on at least
forty five, even sixty. It should have had a better
logical conclusion with a clear sign of the US victory.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well, the Wall Street journals reporting today is that they
were making no progress whatsoever, like zero on the whole
details around nuclear weapons, which was what the whole war
was about. So which doesn't surprise me in the least. So,
what's the worst case scenario? Worst case scenario obviously is
that Oram gets a nuclear weapon, but we prosecute this war.
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We need to go forward and put pressure on us.
What what should we watch out for that could go wrong?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Well, you know that they had some kind of internal
revolution and that you have this humanitarian crisis that exists
inside that the country because it implosed United States gets
blamed for that or something. I think I don't think
we have to worry about. You know, there's potentially some
of our military targets, but there's not a situation that
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I could see that we're in trouble now unless the
Chinese decide to enter the fixture of they decide, which
I think should have been part of the MoU anyway,
I think that we should have made sure that no
other countries were going to come in and assist a Ron.
You know that that MoU is all front loaded for
the Iranians. It was you know, all the all the
United States activities were on the back side of it.
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We don't want the Chinese in there, we don't want
any other countries in there, and we often need stronger
Gulf states to make sure that they're focused on making
sure we take this to the end. But but what
goes wrong? I think the real the real challenge would
be more inside of Iran humanitarian crisis. Ninety million people
will have to feed and keep water, and if the
Ranian government collapses, you know, how do they do that?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So also part of the Wall Street General Reporting day
was that Iran has gotten back a fair amount of
their capability. Was that with the help of China and Russia,
that they rebuilt all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I think they just basically took it out of the mountains,
and they had a lot to begin with. And again
from a scale perspective, they still can't deploy hundreds at
a time. But when you have a lot when you sneak,
you know, take a thousand rockets, let's say, or a
thousand missiles and hide them in the mountains and hide
them in places if you look at the geography of Iran,
easy to do. And all that they're doing now is
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just deploying those that are out there. So that's where
there's more targets for us to kind of go after.
I think that's really what happened. There's no industrial capability
to fix anything that's not really on the table. It's
the fact that just shows you the level of ballistic
missile capability. They always had tens of thousands of missiles
that they had that had built them, been ready for
the site.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Are any of those countries surrounding around that keep getting
hit by the Iranians going to finally like really join
us in this battle.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well that's another great question. And you know, it just
shows you how Middle Eastern politics are, you know more
in some ways based on religion. A lot of it
has to do with that, you know, the Shia Sunni
divide that exists in that part of the world, and
so that they you know, you can't change the geography, right,
(09:35):
I mean, Katar and the UAE are doing what they
can to avoid the straits, right. They're building tunnels and
things like that, but they should have been building them
before the thought he's already did that. They've got a
pipeline going to the Red Sea. But the politics are
just not what we're used to, and that they have
to they recognize that there are what they are.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, I have a feeling there's a chance we might
be talking to you again later this week after a
couple of more rounds of strug.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Mike's in Iran Mike Lyons military analyst.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You can follow him on Twitter at m A j
is in Major at Major m Aj Mike Lyons, I
go there whenever something happens to see what you thought
about it. Thanks Mike, Thanks for av me the war's
back on. I think clearly, well, let's play this just
because we got a moment. Find my sheet.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Here, play play forty two to me, I.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Think it's over. I don't want to deal with them
with this gum. You know what scum is there? Gum,
there's sick people. They're led by six people. There's something
wrong with them. They're cuckoo. Far as I'm concerned, it's over.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That he was asked about the MoU, the memorandum of
Understanding that you know, brought about the sixty day cease
fire and they get their money back before we start
the nuclear talks, which never happened. Shock shock shock. Trump's
saying it's over. They're cuckoo, It's over. I hope he
means it, because he says this sort of stuff about
Putin or the Mullahs or the IRGC, and then you know,
(11:12):
by the end of the day he'll say, no, he
talked to do a guy, and he sounds like he's
a it's really exciting.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
JD.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Vans will come out and say, you know, it's really cool,
is they they now understand that they've been doing the
wrong thing all these years, which was just the lamest
thing that has ever come out of Jade Vance's mouth. Oh, anyway,
does Trump change his tune on this? I do not
know if we'll have more on this topic a little
bit later, partially because Trump's talking about it as we speak.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So we got other.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Stuff on the way. I want to get to we
didn't play enough of the mom Donnie fourth of July address.
I've got some stuff on exercise, a little more on
that sleep study that I wanted to get to, so
stick around please.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't know if it's a game or a match.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Do you called a soccer game or a soccer match
or can you use both? Anyway, A number of people
are calling it one of the best of those that's
ever occurred in the World Cup. Yesterday, Argentina, the defending
World Cup champ, was down to nothing at like the
eighty minute mark. They play ninety minutes, which is way
too many minutes for me. So I had heard that
(12:29):
Argentina made a comeback in the last ten minutes, which
they did. They came back and they won three to two,
including their star player Lionel Messi, who's considered by many
people to be the greatest soccer player of all time.
And he's old now and he's this would be his
last World Cup, so he scores one of the games.
So I did watch in real time the last ten
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or so minutes of the dang thing, and it was very,
very exciting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It was too nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Egypt, it was good about to pull off one of
the great upsets in World Cup history, and Argentina comes back.
But I got a couple of goal calls here for
you they're both in Spanish. This one is from I
don't remember what channel from this is from, but this
is on one of the goals help us out. It's
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because they don't have other sports they care about in
these countries that they get so excited. I mean, MESSI
was just bawling like a child, just crying his eyes
out because it would have been the end of his
World Cup career had they lost, and it looked like
they were going to lose, and they came back and won,
and we just we have so many sports in year
round and move from this and that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, I get.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Excited too, But man, they act like their lives on
the line for these things. And I still contend that
if we cared about soccer and our best players played soccer,
we would dominate soccer around the world. Can you imagine
if Steph Curry had played soccer?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Anyway, that's ugly American talk right there. I heard this one.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I like this one from Telemundo because the guy gets
so excited he just runs out of gas.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
No Messy, right, are you okay? Sir Canino?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
See how emotionally good about this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's a bigger deal to them than it is to
us for whatever reason. Guy, Oh, it was exciting. Like
I said, though I'm understanding it more and I'm able
to watch it a little more. Oh I'm I did
say earlier. So thirty three million people tuned into USA Belgium,
(15:23):
which we lost.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We looked horrible.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Biggest US crowd for soccer ever in the history of
the sport, thirty three million people. We got this text.
Maybe the thirty three million people watching the soccer is
a true barometer of how many people came into the
country illegally when Biden was in charge. You might be
right about that. Maybe that's just because we let in
so many people from other countries where they care about soccer.
(15:48):
I can't imagine myself watching the full ninety minutes. So
it's just I I'm trying to buy into what I
see about the poetry of the game and the rhythm
that you get used to of the moving the ball
up and down the field, and then the rare scoring
moments being so much more important than in our stupid
American sports, where you score every two minutes and scores
(16:10):
no matter. Using their words, not mine, but I just
haven't been able to get into the flow of the
magic of the poetry of the game or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It just looks to.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Me like hockey on grass. Where So Argentina the defending
world champions. So they scored two goals last night, and
I think they've had ten World Cup games in a
row where they've scored two goals or more, which is
the all time record. Two goals in an hour and
(16:42):
a half is just not enough action for me.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't know, and I'm not part of the TikTok generation.
It's just I need a little more out of my sport.
But anyway, that one was exciting and I watched it.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And how many people are gonna watch now that the
United States is out? I don't know if the ratings
will drop of I don't know if I'll watch anymore.
I suppose I will, or maybe I won't, or maybe
I'll catch the highlights. So I want to finish up
on the sleep study they had in the New York Times,
combined with an exercise thing that they've got. This is
all the latest information meta studies with many, many thousands
(17:18):
of people. I really think this is valuable information worth hearing.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Coming up, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
There's a new Dolly parton musical apparently is it going
to be on Broadway about her life. I've always liked
Dolly Parton since I was a little kid, But I
feel like enough with Dolly Parton already. Just I don't know,
she's the new Betty White. She's an old person that
we're all supposed to just be enthralled with constantly.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Eh, I'm not eight, non Dolly Parton. Just enough with
Dolly Parton already.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So I took a graduate statistics class many years ago
in college, and luckily I had a very very good
teacher who hammered the point home all of the time.
He would hit you with a number, new study says,
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, let's think about
(18:13):
that for a second. And he would delve into all
of the reasons why the stat that came out of
this particular study may be incredibly misleading. And he did
that with everything that was like his main thing, which
I think was good because Joe always quotes the famous
(18:35):
Mark Twain saying about statistics, there's three kinds of lies, lies,
damned lies, and statistics. Because it's really easy to tell
any kind of story you want to tell with statistics
for all the reasons we're about to get into here.
But so I like doing that and I think it's helpful,
(18:56):
and the media does a terrible job of that. Part
of it is the clicks world, so that if you
have a study that says, and we talked about this
a couple of months back, because it was a New
York Times article, swimming much less beneficial as an exercise
than running, way more people die doing swimming as an
(19:21):
exercise is running incredibly misleading headline. But that's all the
further you get with most mainstream media coverage. They give
you a thirty second version and then they move on
and you're incredibly misinformed. You'd have been better off if
you hadn't heard the story at all. We'll get into
that particular thing here in just a little bit, but
I started on the sleep thing last hour, and I
wanted to pay that off. I like meta analysis, and
(19:43):
this is what they are doing in the New York
Times with this doctor over the weekend. That's when you
look at lots of different studies or lots of different
big studies, and you put it all.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Together and you kind of go from there.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
As opposed to one PhD did a small study at
a university somewhere and they can't replicate it, which is
the sort of thing that gets repeated in the media
all the time that stuff is practically worthless. These are
meta studies, and with these metas studies, they found that
the highest mortality rates were with people who sleep nine
(20:20):
to eleven hours a night. Eight hours is not the
magic number. Risk doesn't really rise much below eight until
you get down to below six. You have to get
less than six hours of sleep before you start to
match the death rate of people mortality risk health risk
(20:41):
of people who sleep nine to eleven hours, So between
like six and a half and.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Nine, it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
About the same and it just depends on different people
have different amounts they need. And this was good news
to me because I get between six and a half seven.
That's about what I live with. That's what I feel
best with, and it says here that's perfectly fun. But
when you're getting into the stuff I'm talking about on
how you can be misled about these sorts of things
is why do people in the nine to eleven hours
(21:10):
a night category have worse health outcomes world There's all
kinds of different reasons. Perhaps if you're sleeping that much,
it's because you're depressed. Perhaps, if you're sleeping that much,
it's because you've got some sort of injury or sickness
that causes you to sleep that much. That has nothing
to do with how much you sleep. It just it
(21:32):
keeps you in bed a lot more. You know, it's
pretty easy to imagine these sorts of things. But six
and a half hours of sleep a night perfectly. Okay,
there's one other number I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Hit you with in here, bah bah bah.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Studies show an association between sleep duration and mortality. Often
find that the lowest risk of mortality clusters around seven hours.
So seven is more of a magic number than eight,
according to this meta analysis. I don't know where eight
came from originally, it's been around my whole life. I
don't know who religionally decided that, but we really should
(22:08):
throw around the number seven as the number that most
of us need. You know, somewhere on either side of that,
I need a little less. Joeways talks about he needs
a little more, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's not eight.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That's a little higher than we need. Now to the
exercise stuff, which I thought was really really interesting. A
review of a whole bunch of different tests averaged together
many tens of thousands of people found that exercise lowered
mortality risk by thirteen percent. I'm a little disappointed that it's.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Not more than that.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I wanted it to be more than that thirteen percent
eight nothing, but it ain't size I wanted. But we
talked about that swimming study that came out a while
all back that found that swimming didn't lower mortality rates,
but running did, and that was the headline everybody ran with.
And then they went about a half inch deep and
no more. As it says here by this doctor doing
(23:04):
the meta analysis and using their brain to think about this,
does that mean that swimming isn't effective as an exercise. No,
it does not. When you look more closely at the
data in the appendix of the study, which you know
the CBS Evening News isn't going to do. They're just
going to tell you swimming actually does not lower your
mortality rate. Isn't that interesting? In other news Taylor Swift's wedding.
(23:27):
When you look at the appendix of the study, which
media I would stone apparently have time to do, swimmers
were more much more likely to not engage in other
positive health behaviors. For a variety of reasons, swimmers don't
do the other good things you should be doing to
lower your risk of.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Death that runners do.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
For instance, only about five percent of frequent runners smoke.
It doubles for swimmers. Twice as many swimmers smoke as runners.
Right there, you're going to have a major difference. I
was kind of struck by the fact that people that
are regular runners, five percent out of them smoke. One
out of twenty regular runners smokes.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's kind of surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
For swimmers, it's one out of ten. Swimmers are almost
were also more likely to have high blood pressure way
more and to have a family history of cancer. One
explanation is that doctors may recommend swimming as a low
impact activity for people who are overweight or have other
health problems. It's easier to do better for your joints
(24:30):
and all that sort of stuff than running. So that's
people that are less healthy to start with, so their
risk of mortality goes up. That's just a for instance,
And I would encourage y'all whenever you hear any of
these statistics. First of all, if they give you the
thirty to forty five second version of any statistic about anything.
(24:52):
You gotta dig into it because you almost certainly were
missing a whole bunch of context. I mean, I don't
remember a time whenever I've dug into a headline story
with a big shocking statistic where it doesn't turn out
there's some explanation for it. Oh okay, swimmers smoke twice
as much as runners or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
It is. Same with the sleep thing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Oh okay, you don't sleeping ten hours a day or
nine hours a day isn't going to kill me. It's
that people that sleep that much tend to have other problems.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So so I'm going to continue to sleep by six
and a half to seven hours, and I'm going to
continue to exercise.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, just in general.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
They have found, We've talked about this a lot, found
that exercises that include short bursts of energy are really
really good for us. For some reason, I guess that's
the way we're designed. You know, you're walking across the
serengetti as a caveman, and all of a sudden you
see an antelope and you have to run really really
fast and hope you hit it with this beer. That's
what we're kind of built for. So those short bursts
of energy are really really good for you, and all
(25:56):
kinds of stuff around weight training, which I love doing,
but weight training is so good for your brain, not
just your body, but really really good for your brain
and send some sort of signals apparently to your brain
that we're still alive, we're still needed, muscles and brain
are still needed, We're still doing something. I'm not still
doing something, but it tricks my brain into thinking, so
(26:16):
so it'll stave off dementia and keep you in better shape. Anyway,
I hope that was of some use to you. I
have a bunch of other stuff I need to get to.
I can't wait to read this thing. Elon Musk said
the other day about why America is exceptional, pushing back
against Mayor Mamdani and his speech that he gave over
(26:38):
fourth of July that America is not exceptional. If we
are exceptional, we're exceptional in bad ways. So we'll get
to a pushback on that at some point that I
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will say this as a guy who currently exercises regularly,
(27:40):
and I've never really had a time where as sedentary
of my life, but I've had periods where I didn't
exercise as much as I did now. And I know
how hard it is to get started if you've been
out of the groove for a while, it's really really
hard to get started. But I can tell you once
you get started, once you get going, it's going to
be so much easier. You just got to make yourself
(28:02):
do it, just like all kinds of other stuff we
have to make ourselves do regularly, clean the house, whatever
it is. I'm on a writing kick right now where
I'm trying to write every single day and I'm trying
to make myself do it, and I don't want to
do it, and I'm hoping that if I make myself
do it every day, it'll finally come naturally. Exercise is
certainly worked that way for a lot of people. Enough
(28:24):
of my preaching about that.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I hurt myself exercising.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Though always or just recently.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
Just recently, two days ago, I go to sit down
in like a chest press machine, and I sat down
on the chair and I'm about ready to lift the
weight and I just pulled my head back and all
of a sudden, I feel this pop and pulled it
like a neck muscle or something.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
But so basically, just the activity of sitting down, you
hurt yourself. Yes, you aren't even to the lifting weights.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No, No, I had to get up.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I think you need to start a lot slower if
just sitting down is hurting you. Yeah, did you crack
your head against the machine or no, I was.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Just getting it into proper position. Is I did something
with my neck?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
But it's just I guess part of being older.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But what kind of gym do you go to?
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I mean I would say it is sort of a
family gym. I mean, you know, people of all ages. Yeah,
I uh.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I go to a gym where there aren't that many
super studs there just every once in a while.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't need that kind of gym at this point
in my life.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's just it's too much grunting, too many dropping weights.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I can't stand that. Yeah, the guy that needs to
show off for the whole gym.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
God, there's one guy that comes to my gym, and
luckily I don't cross paths with him very often, but
he has to just scream everything. He just all right,
we get it, you're lifting a lot of weight. Good
for you, But come on, dude, I mean, it's just
it's comedic. It's like it's a Saturday Night Live bit.
It's so over the top. And then he always has
(29:57):
to drop the weights. He can't set them down clang
by boom and good for you. He's one of the
guys that wears the tank tops with the like the
holes are really big on the side of the tank top,
so it's like you're basically shirtless.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
He's one of those guys too good for you. And
he smells horrible.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You can you see he walks by and it's just
a cloud of odor, screaming, dropping weights and you smell horrible.
I have gone before where he's there, and I think
I'll skip today or I'll.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Come back tomorrow. I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Oh, I just saw something on the TV about Caitlyn Clark,
the basketball player red an interesting piece in the National Review.
I got to get to an hour three. That league
is making such a mistake. Best thing that ever happened
to the WNBA ever is Caitlyn Clark. They voted for
players voted the other day for All Star. They voted
her as the eleventh best guard. She might be the
(30:49):
best player ever in the WNBA history. They voted her
currently as the eleventh best guard in the league because
they all hate her because she's white and she's straight.
Really interesting story. Maybe we'll get to that inw ur
three lots on the way, Stay.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Here, Armstrong. Yeah, we just had a fireworks a plane built.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And built to ten seventy six. Can you tell me
if you had to, I guess any further information about
the fireworks two hundred feed HL two to fifty AHL.
But we just started to bang on the plane, so
we'll have to take a look at I want to
get to the gate, and we're just hoping it was
just the mortar that went off underneath, but definitely felt
the big bang. There have been multiple reports as you
can imagine the city's are where. They said they would
(31:38):
notify the Chicago police, but you know, I don't know
what they'll do.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So did the plane actually get hit by fireworks?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:47):
I think of it by a mortar. They heard a
bang on the plane. I think like a mortar hit it.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Do they teach you at pilot school to be just
extra monotone no matter what's going on as that? And
I'm not even trying to be jokey or sarcastic here.
I wonder if that's to deal with a crisis easier
that no matter what happens. Go at the somebody shooting
explosives as Roger Tower. We'd like you to know that
(32:16):
if we could stop the explosives that are hitting the plane.
We'd appreciate that click, just to keep things calm. They're
always so monotone no matter. It's like the guy we
had a couple of weeks ago, who actually is a
friend of a friend of mine, talking about we have
a family that was exposed to a bola on the plane,
and just want to let you know we need to
test them for a bola as soon as we lent.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guess they're just supposed to stay calm.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I want to talk about the workplace violence training I took.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Have you taken that yet, Michael, Yeah, I took that one.
That's why you're not violent. Yeah, that's why you're so calm.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I want to talk about the workplace violent training that
I found quite hilarious. First this, we should talk to
this guy. I co founded Wikipedia. Now I'm banned for life.
This guy Larry Sanger. He and another guy started Wikipedia
back in two thousand and one with the admirable, game
changing goal of democratizing information. It's known as the world's
(33:18):
greatest encyclopedia that has ever existed.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Wikipedia. I know a lot of you have troubles with Wikipedia.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I used to use it every day prior to chat
GPT and Grock and Claude and all that sort of stuff.
I used Wikipedia every day. I don't think i've used
it since I started using chatbots. And we also knew
it got biased, which is what this co founder, Larry
Sanger says he started in two thousand and one. They
wanted to democratize information and have all of it be
(33:48):
out there and anybody could get it for free. But
after Sanger left Wikipedia, he watched in dismay, he says,
I'm quoting him as the site I'd created began to
drift from its founding mission. Ideological bias took hold, pages
were whitewashed, left leaning outlets came to dominate sourcing, and
a small group of administrators grew beholden more to each
(34:09):
other than to any constitutional framework.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This is from one of.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
The guys who invented and started Wikipedia, who noticed that
it started to slide left and they became all about
trying to please each other rather than have, you know, uh,
straight down the middle factual information. It reminds me of
that saying, and I don't remember where it came from.
I know our friend Tim Sanderfer has said it before.
(34:33):
Any organization not specifically designed to be conservative drifts leftward
over time, and I would say based on watching things,
even ones that were specifically designed to be conservative, in
some cases drift leftward over time. It's got something to
do with the iron law, bureaucracy, and just whatever it is,
(34:55):
everything drifts leftward. Last week, this original co founder of
wikiped launched an effort to reform Wikipedia from within, only
to be met with a coordinated effort to ridicule, discredit,
and undermine him, culminating in a lifetime ban. On Monday,
the guy who started Wikipedia with another dude got banned
(35:15):
for life from Wikipedia, and he says, I knew Wikipedia's
disciplinary processes were bad, but I had never experienced them myself.
He He goes on to talk about how one of
the miracles of the Internet age has abandoned truth and
evolved into an emblem of our censorious age, and what
(35:37):
his band reveals about the culture that allowed it. Guys
started Wikipedia now says it's so off the rails that
he tried to reform it he got banned for life.
So well, you know, I wasn't using Wikipedia anymore, Like
I said, I use chatbots for everything, and I'm pretty
happy with them. Most of the time, but how long
until they drift so far leftward that they're unusable like
(36:00):
Wikipedia did?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How much time I got my girl thirty seconds. I
don't have much time.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I'll have to talk about my violence training, which makes
me very very angry later makes me want to punch
a coworker. The fact that I have to put this
off until hour three. We'll also get to that the
way the WNBA is handling the best thing that ever
happened to them, Caitlin Clark. And this is not a
sports story. This is a cultural politics story. It's pretty
(36:25):
darn interesting. If you miss that for some reason, get
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand
Speaker 3 (36:34):
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