September 11, 2026 • 37 mins
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- The Lindsay Clancy trial
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty. Greetings, friends. I am slightly stressed,
(00:30):
not that Jack has disappeared to go to jury duty,
as it is his sacred right as an American, and
I'm glad he's doing it, but because we have so
much really, really interesting stuff to get to, I'm not
sure how we're going to cram it in. So why
don't we dive right into it? I will tell you
that in a few short moments at the bottom of
the hour, if indeed you are listening live, we will
(00:53):
get into previously unheard... audio from the socialism 2026 conference. Uh, and,
and they released some stuff, but I can't remember whether
it was the daily wire or somebody had people in
those meetings, uh, undercover who recorded a lot of what
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was said. And, and it's, it's funny as we look
at these people, it's an uncomfortable combination for me anyway, of,
Sweet God, are these people ludicrous. I mean, they're hilariously,
insanely cuckoos. At the same time, the movement that they
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represent and the influence of their way of thinking, at least,
you know, one of the main influences of their way
of thinking, is actually taking hold in our schools and universities. So,
it's easy to enjoy the mockery, you know, But we
still need to be concerned at the headway they're making,
I should say. Okay. But for this segment, it is
(02:00):
just undeniable that the Lindsay Clancy trial has launched an
extended national, probably international, conversation about the facts of the
case and the nature of insanity and child murder and
that sort of thing. And it is.
So interesting, the couple of camps people seem to be
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divided into. The one that is getting the most vocal
chorus from the media is, well, it's postpartum psychosis. It's rare,
but it's serious. It wasn't her fault. We need to sympathize.
Women don't get enough understanding and sympathy for the rigors
of childbirth and postpartum conditions and that sort of thing.
(02:45):
All of which is true. But the other camp says,
all of that being true, you don't get to snuff
your children. As the great Nellie Bowles pointed out, some
of the quotes from the women on the jury are
so troubling. The one describing the quote-unquote rogue juror and saying,
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without irony, but they had the hardest time getting over
the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children. And as
Nellie Bowles puts it, well, that is a tricky one
to get over. And last week, some folks said... I
came off as uncaring for Lindsay in the right, so
to be clear, I do feel terrible for her. It's
a tragedy, and she clearly did try to get help.
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I just feel way, way worse for the kids she killed.
If you listen to the Clancy jurors' interviews, their argument
is basically that a previously good mother suddenly killing her
kids is a crazy thing. So any woman who does
that is, by definition, totally insane and not criminally liable.
I'm just not sure I want to live in a
world where that one crime is given a special light sentence.
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But here we are. And then she points out there's
been at least one copycat killing thus far. Anyway, Ofra,
who apparently still has a show, I guess, had a
bunch of people talking about this, which we'll get to
in a moment or two. But first, 62, Michael, is
Gayle King on CBS talking to one of the juror
ladies named Paula Devlin.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it
was nine women, three men.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What was the age range? What was the racial makeup?
I haven't heard any of that. What was it?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
70-ish to 22. And one person of color and then
everybody else was white.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A lot of the jurors had children.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Uh-huh. One person of color, was a person of color
a woman or a man?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
A man.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
A man.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is a holdout juror a person, a black man?
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
A black man is a holdout juror?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
Well, I have to sit with that for just a second.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, you do because you see everything through the lens
of race because you're a woke person, Gail. I don't
think that's that shocking in general. And this shows up
in question after question after question. Black folks, particularly black men,
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tend to be unsympathetic to the modern worldview, which prizes
victimization and psychobabble and the rest of it. I have
a very strong feeling that this fella, and actually he's
been quoted a little bit, but has said, look, the
woman snuffed her three children. And as one of the
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clips we're about to play points out, not like quickly.
And we can't have that. We just can't have that.
So here's Oprah's show. There are a handful of clips
we want to play for you. Different attitudes expressed. We'll
start with 60, Michael.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
And the other thing that I would just be remiss
to not say is I... I hope this never happens again.
We know statistically it will.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Already has. Will. It will.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I want us to have the same passion for people
who don't look like Lindsay. Who don't have her same access.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Who don't have her same access and education, her melanin,
her privilege. There are Women of color sitting around this
country in prisons for this same thing that we've never
heard of. And I just want to remind us to
have the pink shirts and the energy for them as well.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So that's the current state of the civil rights movement, folks.
People of all colors should be able to murder their babies.
Good Lord. We have lost our minds as a culture.
Got a little more interesting in the next two clips.
It's a mom and daughter who rose to speak. Differing
about the case.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We are.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We have opposing views.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
We do. And I think, you know, I said to her,
I think so. She hasn't gone through it. She's not
a mother.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
So she doesn't know how it feels to have a child.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And you disagree.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I am.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I feel like I'm not with the majority right now.
I do believe she's a murderer. Um, After all you've
heard today, you still- I'm an advocate for mental health.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's just unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
And she's so quick to say it. She's like, you've
never had a baby. You don't understand what it's like
to go through all the hormonal shifts. But I just
feel as though these.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Were not instant deaths. They weren't gunshots to the head.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
She was there strangling her kids three times. You're telling
me even after the first time, she couldn't snap out
of it?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You're watching the life- leave your kids' eyes, you know?
Speaker 8 (07:58):
So I know I.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Hear everybody's opinions and God bless mothers, but at the same,
I just don't understand how we can empathize with somebody that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
They weren't strangers. They were her kids.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And she was able to grab those exercise bands that
took a lot of effort. And it's, it breaks my
heart that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
These young kids gone through.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That, but.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, it's sickening and horrifying, but... You know what? Well,
I'll save my comments. We have one more clip of
that young lady. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I'm grateful that this conversation is happening because I do
believe women, they are on the back burner when it
comes to mental health. If this was a man, there
would be a law the next day or something.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Going on, but.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
There would have been research.
Something right away.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But it's just, I just feel like with her, it's becoming,
she's becoming a mascot for just, I feel like so
many mothers empathize with her so much that they want
to put her out there, make her a mascot. And
they're turning something so negative into a movement.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I hear that. So y'all will continue. You all will
not be agreeing no time soon. No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So, Oprah's smug reciting of the party line makes me insane,
and I slap my forehead and think, oh, my God.
And because it's important you don't just berate people. You
try to talk sense to them and try to change
their minds so we can have a better, healthier society.
But I hear stuff like Oprah just said, and the
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young woman implied it in a way. And I think,
oh my God, where would I even start with you? Okay,
first of all, if it were a man, he would
be sentenced to multiple life terms, period, end of sentence,
and well should he be. Oprah is reciting the party
line that, yeah, there hasn't been enough research into women's health,
and they've been neglected by medical studies. I mean, there's
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a certain amount of truth to that, but it just doesn't...
The point she thought she was making is she just
didn't make it all. In fact, she made the opposite point.
What struck me about the first clip, and I think
it's the disease of modern discourse, and it probably has
something to do with the Internet. And, you know, it's funny.
(10:27):
It was less than... two years ago, that I first
heard various thinkers and commentators talking about directionally, people think
this or support that, or I agree with him, directionally.
It's funny, I hadn't really heard that term. But what
it means is, if, for instance, you think the rampant
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illegal immigration of the Biden administration was a terrible thing,
And that we need to get hold of that. You
might think, for instance, ICE really screwed up a couple
of times in Minneapolis. I do, by the way, a
couple of times. But directionally, that sounds like you're against
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controlling the border. And so you don't dare say that
because you don't want to be seen as being, quote-unquote,
on the other side. And we run into that a
lot of times on this show because we're not willing
to do that. If our side screws up, we like
to call fouls on our own side just because we
like to be consistent. And we certainly agree, for instance,
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on the immigration question, directionally 1,000%. So these people think.
Because I believe women have been neglected or their postpartum
struggles have been misunderstood or chuckled at or, you know,
that sort of thing. I've got to signal directionally that
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I agree. And so that seems to be the question
in this case. So I've got to support the woman
who snuffed her three children slowly and horribly. It takes
a while to die of asphyxiation, folks. It takes a while.
It is a torturous way to die. But because we've
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got to be directionally consistent, people are doing that. I
think that's part of our problem here. Anyway, God, this
is heavy stuff. Good Lord. We're going to lighten up
considerably in the next several minutes. Hope you can stay tuned.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we give you.
Katie's son, Van, Jack, Joe, Mike, Mike.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Hey, I love you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Listening to a child develop speech is the most joyful
and fascinating thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
I was privileged to witness it three times and it,
my dying wish is to just have like video of
that played as I drift off and think, all right,
(14:16):
there are more people they'll figure it out. Oh my God.
That's beautiful. Katie. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He, he's totally finding his voice. And I swear the
other day, he said, I love you back. He, I mean, yeah,
he goes, Oh, and I'm like, Oh, you're so close, dude. Oh,
it's awesome. Yeah. It's great. It is. It is literally awesome.
Isn't it? Causes awe.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We're pro baby around here.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Hey, I love.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I could understand it better that time. It was Joe's
the talented one. Yes. That's exactly what he said. Good boy.
Good boy. All right. Speaking of wise cracks, um, This
is comedian Ashley Gavin on a recent night. She there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, you'd say so? I'm not very feminine, but I'm
not masculine. You can still be a girl. I'm a girl.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
A demigirl.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
A demigirl? What?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Demi, like, sort of a girl? I don't know myself.
Then why are you telling me that? Can someone explain
to me what a Demi girl is? It's a mix
between non-binary and female. Mix between non-binary... No, because non-binary means.
Maybe the rules were fine as they were! Yeah, Ashley,
(15:49):
who is a fairly not terribly feminine-looking lesbian woman, I believe...
with exactly the amount of tolerance for that horse ass
she ought to have. None. Oh, my Lord.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Like Demi Girl is a cross between non-binary and a girl.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And she's like, wait, what? Look, sweetheart, you're not an
ice cream sundae. You're a human being. It's purely a
question of your sex. And you can be any kind
of girl you want. For the millionth time, the conservative
side says, hey, you be you. The progressive side says, yeah,
(16:33):
here are powerful chemicals that will sterilize you for the
rest of your life. You're in the wrong body. Here
are the surgeries you need to have right away. Yeah,
and we're the sick ones? We're the bigots? What? Hey, caramba. Oh,
speaking of socialist nonsense, we've got some unbelievable clips. from
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the recent Socialism 2026 gathering. These people are insane, hilariously insane,
and succeeding. So let's enjoy but not get too smug.
But when I was reminded not too terribly long ago
that in the Communist Manifesto, one of the last sentences
in it, it's like the third last, second last, says,
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Communists will support every movement of resistance against the status
quo wherever we find it. no matter how ridiculous or
unrelated to communism or what have you. That's why there's
so much energy being piped into the mistaken notion that
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society demands that every girl be a feminine, girly girl, heterosexual,
stay-at-home mom. What are you talking about? Where do you
see that? But it's Marxism energizing that. Oh, you don't
like the status quo? You've got to gripe. Any gripe.
Any freaking gripe. If you're offended by the fact that
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stores close early on Christmas Eve, Marxists will support you.
That's how it works. And we all need to wake
up to that. Anyway, the hilarious idiotic socialists coming up
in moments. Hope you can stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.
During hour four of the Armstrong and Getty show, we're
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going to return to the topic of, uh, nine 11
fundamentalist Islam, um, history unfolding in front of us, that
sort of thing, uh, onto other fair for a little
while though, including the recent socialism 2026 conference. We've featured
a couple of bits of audio from it already. These
people are cuckoo nuts. Um, they're also winning the day
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in our nation's schools in particular. And, um, in universities
as part of the Marxist long march through the institutions,
the idea of which is just, you've got to start
with the young people and just make them hate their country,
make them hate their people, make them hate the principles
that the previous generations have held dear. And instead of
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those principles, substitute the principles of struggle and revolution, that
sort of thing, in the name of Marxism or socialism
or whatever they want to call it. because it's all
essentially the same thing. It's just a matter of degrees.
One of the few things I actually learned getting my
degree in political science was that so many of those definitions, well, Joe,
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actually socialism means the ownership of, those are absolutely useless
in the real world. I mean, it's a starting place maybe,
but there's no pure form of anything anywhere on earth,
except the pure crap that comes out of the Socialism
2026 conference. Apparently, Okay, so two things to alert you
to because you can't see him or you might not
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notice him. Number one. Every freaking one of these people
is wearing a mask like it's covid mask. Is it?
just to signal that they're part of the progressive crowd
has kind of started in COVID. Is it to disguise
their identities? Is it because they like to cosplay the
brave revolutionary, but wearing like a bandana would be too much?
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I mean, you got your jackasses on college campuses wearing
keffiyehs because it makes them feel like Che Guevara. God,
you punks, you're just so ridiculous. Anyway, then the second
thing that you probably will notice is is that all
of these speakers have their jargon down. I mean, they
all just are vomiting these progressive-slash-Marxist phrases over and over again.
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And they all echo each other. And as I pointed out,
that's why it's kind of funny, actually, that the way
some of the big Marxists in universities have gotten busted
was for plagiarism. They're not scientists. They're cultists. So yes,
of course they repeat the creeds of their cult. That's
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what you do in a cult. It's not plagiarism. It's
faithfulness to their cult. Anyway, I'm glad they're gone from
the universities to the extent that they are. Not nearly
enough of them are gone, but That's always struck me
as more than a little ironic. Okay, so to the
conference we go. Let's just start with the first clip, Michael,
and see how long we're enjoying this. Please be gay,
do crimes with me.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
And it's also really f * * * ing weird
just on the.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Laws, not real thing. As an abolitionist. The ethos of abolition.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
An abolitionist positionality.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
An abolitionist liberatory ecosystem.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Debates in abolition.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
In abolition, especially if you think of it as both
methodology and ideology.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
When you abolish the police, you do burn down police stations,
I imagine.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Indeed, we have.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Or some people have, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
To the abolition of rent, nuclear weapons, prison, debt, even
monopoly power.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Imperialism.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You name it.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
And abolition is.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
What we are making rather than the erasure of what is.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So when I say, as I say many times, I
know it's a meme. Abolition is a presence.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, so two things. Number one, the whole be gay
and do crimes with me. What the hell? You may
remember when we talked about the whole transgender phrase, the
gender-bred person teaching little kids that you're probably part of
a sexual minority, like the comedian lady talking to a
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demi-semi-sexual girl, pansexual something or other, and had no patience
for it. Remember, if the Marxists can convince you that
you're part of an oppressed minority... And they will help
you in your fight. They gotcha. Which is why the
word Q, queer, in the LGBTQ alphabet soup thing, queer
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doesn't mean anything. It just means in opposition to the
status quo or the accepted morals points of view. It's
like an all-purpose and everybody else who wants to help
overthrow the status quo. That's what queer means, and that's
what she meant by please be gay and do crimes
with me. And then the second thing, and this is
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another thing that Marxists do, and it's very, very clever,
and there are at least a dozen solid examples of this.
They ask, what are the most powerful words in a
given culture? Racist is one, okay? To be called a
racist in America is a terrible, terrible thing because of
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our struggles like everywhere on earth with the racial bigotry, hatred, death, slavery, etc.
And so they weaponized the word racist to say, if
you're not with us Marxists, you're a racist. That was
the whole anti-racism thing. Race was its excuse. Its purpose
was to overthrow racism. Western civilization. And then abolitionist, you
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heard over and over and over again. If you've studied history,
Civil War, Lincoln, the fight against slavery from the founding
or before the founding right through the Civil War and beyond,
you know abolitionist is good guy. So they've picked out
a word that's powerful in our culture, then they use
it to describe themselves. So the people who are unaware
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of what they're doing will say, Wow, abolitionists, that's a
good word. I think these are good people and just
assume that. All right, let's plunge on.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And by feminism, I mean anti-racist feminism, anti-capitalist feminism.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Abolition feminism. As abolitionist praxis.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It has been consistent with a black feminist, black left
feminist praxis to be in solidarity with Palestine.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Pre-figurative political praxis.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
There's a difference between solidarity as political value and solidarity
as organizing practice.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Words to live by. Yeah, there are a couple more examples.
All right, Palestine. All right, that's the victim. That's the oppressor.
So Marxism is in favor of the victims. Never mind
that Hamas would kill you people at first second. God,
and like not quickly. They would torture you first, which
brings us back to queers for Palestine. Another great example.
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Wait a minute. The so-called queers are against the norms
of Western civilization. Islamists are against the norms of Western civilization.
Wait a minute, we've got something here. That's the way
it works. Let's plunge on. To deepen the struggle, to
broaden the struggle.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
You know, love, study, and struggle is a framework for action.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Struggles across our history.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Some of us are card-carrying communists. some of us democratic socialists,
some of us pan-Africanists, radical feminists, anti-imperialists, police abolitionists.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We need a junkie communism.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
You know, Marx and Engels were actually really influenced by us,
by the Haudenosaunee, and they saw us as like this,
they called us primitive communists.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We need a junkie communism. Because I guess people who
want to do drugs in the street and live in
tents and crap on the sidewalk are against the status quo.
So they're quote-unquote queer, which means they're quote-unquote abolitionists, and
they're going to be gay and do crimes with me. Okay,
I got it. There's more! So maybe you should never
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take your commie hat off.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Daeshan is a queer and trans theorist. anarcho-communist, afro-pessimist, and
southern born-and-bred abolitionist.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I am not okay, comrades.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
For over a decade, I've been part of a sort
of transgender materialist and anti-work trans-Marxist effort in revolutionary feminism
in the West that theorizes social reproduction and trans-social reproduction
and the positive supersession of capitalist care.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, we have a winner. I mean, oh my gosh.
That dude, gal, mask-wearing man, does she have it down? Michael,
you got to play that one again. I wish we
could just skip to that last person thing, human. But
play that one again. So maybe you should never take
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your commie hat off.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Daeshan is a queer and trans theorist. anarcho-communist, afro-pessimist, and
southern born-and-bred abolitionist.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I am not okay, comrades.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
For over a decade, I've been part of a sort
of transgender materialist and anti-work trans-Marxist effort in revolutionary feminism
in the West that theorizes social reproduction and trans-social reproduction
and the positive supersession of capitalist care.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
At least nine different, what do you even call those
things she listed off? Attitudes? Philosophies? I don't know. Wow,
this is fascinating. Oh, what time is it? Yeah, we've
got time. Let's hear the next clip.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism are deeply intertwined.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
To learn them is to decolonize our minds, right?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
As long as we haven't figured out how to get
rid of capitalism, Marx is relevant.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
To black liberation, to disabled and sick liberation, to indigenous liberation,
to trans and queer liberation, to the liberation of Palestine.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Our way of getting out of this requires us to
bring these systems down. It's absolutely essential.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh, yeah, that gal right in the middle there, she
explained what I've been trying to explain. Yeah, it's just
anybody who's got a gripe whatsoever gets co-opted and brought
under the tent. And then, you know, your particular gripe,
I don't know if you've studied every single communist regime
that's ever existed, but you're the first up against the wall, y'all,
(28:55):
because you're going to think, well, wait, wait, wait, wait,
we haven't solved the trans-reproductive problem. Afro-pessimist, I can't even
remember all that stuff, thing yet. And it's like, oh, oh,
you're a counter-revolutionary, bluey, bluey, bluey, and you die bleeding
there against the wall every single time, you young fools.
(29:20):
All right, last one.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Whether or not we call it a general strike or
whether or not we call it a national economic blackout.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
One of the best things that got organized during this
was what we can't call a general strike because then
that would acknowledge illegal strikes, but we can call an
economic blackout.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Organizing, organizing in general and political organizing in particular.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't know how an economic blackout would work
and how successful that would be. Go ahead and like
withdraw from the economy and don't spend any money because
you probably don't have any anyway. But you know what
would be really effective and really put people like me
in my place is if you had a verbal blackout,
if you would just. stop talking for a period of,
(30:16):
I don't know, five years or so. Why don't we
start at five years? Boy, that would send a message
to the man and the imperial, colonial, paternalistic, capitalist, imperial.
Did I say imperial? Yes, I did already. Colonialist monster.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And these people are, uh, kind of winning a little bit.
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They can't harm you if they can't find you. Audrey
Fahlberg in the Free Press writing about the split between
the pragmatists who want to prioritize winning elections and the
purists who are openly Marxists. That's actually the great hope
(32:03):
of civilization. It's one of them. Well, the great hope
of civilization. is that people like you good folks understand
what all of this is, who's doing it, and why.
And yeah, a lot of these people are like well-meaning,
useful idiots, but you ought to know the ideology behind it.
But the other great hope is that, you know, 90%
of the time these people end up killing each other,
(32:24):
and so they don't get very far. But you can't
assume that that's going to be the case. In fact, yeah,
if you wait till you see whether they've overcome those
differences and have achieved critical mass, you've waited way too long.
Here's my intriguing question du jour about this whole question
(32:50):
of dynamics within the left, the political left. Does the
Democratic Party recognize what they're up against and how they
have a parasite in their body? and that the parasite
not only doesn't care if they die, they want them
to die. I know some Democrats do, but a lot think, well,
(33:11):
we'll use them in their energy for this election cycle,
and then we'll take care of them. Yeah, except it
often doesn't work that way. We shall see. More to come.
Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Hackers from Iran are claiming responsibility for an AT &
T outage in Texas that left thousands without internet, TV,
or phone service. Yeah, that's the problem when you hack
AT & T, no one can really tell.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Everything's normal. No bars, everything's normal, yeah. It's like claiming.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Responsibility for breaking the ice cream machine at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's like, yeah, it never worked, never worked. Well, that
reminds me, the Wall Street Journal has a story today
about how Max and some other fast food chains are
realizing that the kiosk thing, it's not working. And they're
going back to human beings, which I wonder if that'll
be a trend. It's a friend of mine sent me
(34:08):
an essay he wrote about he was vacationing. It was
somewhere in the northeast. I can't remember where, and it
doesn't really matter. But he was kind of unfamiliar with
the area, but needed some groceries. And he went to
a big self-checkout, super efficient, low-staff, lower-price grocery store. And
(34:33):
it was practically empty. And I don't remember if it
was the next day or he needed something else. But
then he went to the a little more expensive, but high-service,
lots of staff, uh, type grocery store in the same town,
not far away. It's like a block away. Um, and
he said it was packed, just completely full of human beings.
(34:57):
And it was a real, huh? Moment for him. Um,
it's more likely to be true in affluent areas probably, but, um,
I know if I could pay and look, I'm not
living paycheck to paycheck anymore. I've done it. I didn't
like it. Um, But if I could pay, say, 8%, 10%
more at some hardware store that was handy to me,
(35:19):
that there was always somebody I could ask questions about.
And yeah, folks, I do know which chains are better
at that. It's just where I live, blah, blah, blah. Man,
I would take that. I would take that in a minute. Anyway,
we'll see if that is a trend. Coming up next hour.
A little more discussion about 9-11, the ongoing fight against
(35:39):
fundamentalist Islam, how fundamentalist Islam tries to exploit the goodness
of the American people, even today. And also some audio
of J.D. Vance at the midterm of Palooza last night.
He's a very, very effective speaker, and he is most
likely to be the 2028 nominee, but we can talk
(36:00):
about that a little bit. That joke from Kimmel barely
sort of kind of touched on tech. And I just
wanted to give you real quickly a little digest of
the headlines kicking around today. It's a very serious piece
of writing in the free press. The threat of AI
takeover is real. And then you've got a different piece
(36:23):
from the free press. How China is stealing America's AI
as fast as they can. Industrial espionage in China are
just hand in glove. Another headline. How Chinese AI firms
tried to clone US AI models, similar topic there. And
then kind of the other side of the coin, the
New York Times is reporting, for China, a mock AI
(36:45):
attack on WeChat signals a dangerous new era. You have
to understand that WeChat is like the one or practically
the only Communist Party-accepted chat platform, and it's used for
all sorts of things, including commerce and interacting with the government,
as well as talking to your friends and stuff like that.
(37:05):
And they realized how easily hackable WeChat is. And if
there's an upside to the awesome, somewhat terrifying powers of AI,
it's that it might be an unbelievable mechanism for messing
with the communist Chinese. Anyway, if you subscribe to Armstrong
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty. Greetings, friends. I am slightly stressed,
(00:30):
not that Jack has disappeared to go to jury duty,
as it is his sacred right as an American, and
I'm glad he's doing it, but because we have so
much really, really interesting stuff to get to, I'm not
sure how we're going to cram it in. So why
don't we dive right into it? I will tell you
that in a few short moments at the bottom of
the hour, if indeed you are listening live, we will
(00:53):
get into previously unheard... audio from the socialism 2026 conference. Uh, and,
and they released some stuff, but I can't remember whether
it was the daily wire or somebody had people in
those meetings, uh, undercover who recorded a lot of what
(01:14):
was said. And, and it's, it's funny as we look
at these people, it's an uncomfortable combination for me anyway, of,
Sweet God, are these people ludicrous. I mean, they're hilariously,
insanely cuckoos. At the same time, the movement that they
(01:37):
represent and the influence of their way of thinking, at least,
you know, one of the main influences of their way
of thinking, is actually taking hold in our schools and universities. So,
it's easy to enjoy the mockery, you know, But we
still need to be concerned at the headway they're making,
I should say. Okay. But for this segment, it is
(02:00):
just undeniable that the Lindsay Clancy trial has launched an
extended national, probably international, conversation about the facts of the
case and the nature of insanity and child murder and
that sort of thing. And it is.
So interesting, the couple of camps people seem to be
(02:22):
divided into. The one that is getting the most vocal
chorus from the media is, well, it's postpartum psychosis. It's rare,
but it's serious. It wasn't her fault. We need to sympathize.
Women don't get enough understanding and sympathy for the rigors
of childbirth and postpartum conditions and that sort of thing.
(02:45):
All of which is true. But the other camp says,
all of that being true, you don't get to snuff
your children. As the great Nellie Bowles pointed out, some
of the quotes from the women on the jury are
so troubling. The one describing the quote-unquote rogue juror and saying,
(03:12):
without irony, but they had the hardest time getting over
the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children. And as
Nellie Bowles puts it, well, that is a tricky one
to get over. And last week, some folks said... I
came off as uncaring for Lindsay in the right, so
to be clear, I do feel terrible for her. It's
a tragedy, and she clearly did try to get help.
(03:34):
I just feel way, way worse for the kids she killed.
If you listen to the Clancy jurors' interviews, their argument
is basically that a previously good mother suddenly killing her
kids is a crazy thing. So any woman who does
that is, by definition, totally insane and not criminally liable.
I'm just not sure I want to live in a
world where that one crime is given a special light sentence.
(03:58):
But here we are. And then she points out there's
been at least one copycat killing thus far. Anyway, Ofra,
who apparently still has a show, I guess, had a
bunch of people talking about this, which we'll get to
in a moment or two. But first, 62, Michael, is
Gayle King on CBS talking to one of the juror
ladies named Paula Devlin.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it
was nine women, three men.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What was the age range? What was the racial makeup?
I haven't heard any of that. What was it?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
70-ish to 22. And one person of color and then
everybody else was white.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A lot of the jurors had children.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Uh-huh. One person of color, was a person of color
a woman or a man?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
A man.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
A man.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is a holdout juror a person, a black man?
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
A black man is a holdout juror?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
Well, I have to sit with that for just a second.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, you do because you see everything through the lens
of race because you're a woke person, Gail. I don't
think that's that shocking in general. And this shows up
in question after question after question. Black folks, particularly black men,
(05:24):
tend to be unsympathetic to the modern worldview, which prizes
victimization and psychobabble and the rest of it. I have
a very strong feeling that this fella, and actually he's
been quoted a little bit, but has said, look, the
woman snuffed her three children. And as one of the
(05:45):
clips we're about to play points out, not like quickly.
And we can't have that. We just can't have that.
So here's Oprah's show. There are a handful of clips
we want to play for you. Different attitudes expressed. We'll
start with 60, Michael.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
And the other thing that I would just be remiss
to not say is I... I hope this never happens again.
We know statistically it will.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Already has. Will. It will.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I want us to have the same passion for people
who don't look like Lindsay. Who don't have her same access.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Who don't have her same access and education, her melanin,
her privilege. There are Women of color sitting around this
country in prisons for this same thing that we've never
heard of. And I just want to remind us to
have the pink shirts and the energy for them as well.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So that's the current state of the civil rights movement, folks.
People of all colors should be able to murder their babies.
Good Lord. We have lost our minds as a culture.
Got a little more interesting in the next two clips.
It's a mom and daughter who rose to speak. Differing
about the case.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We are.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We have opposing views.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
We do. And I think, you know, I said to her,
I think so. She hasn't gone through it. She's not
a mother.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
So she doesn't know how it feels to have a child.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And you disagree.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I am.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I feel like I'm not with the majority right now.
I do believe she's a murderer. Um, After all you've
heard today, you still- I'm an advocate for mental health.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's just unfortunate.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
And she's so quick to say it. She's like, you've
never had a baby. You don't understand what it's like
to go through all the hormonal shifts. But I just
feel as though these.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Were not instant deaths. They weren't gunshots to the head.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
She was there strangling her kids three times. You're telling
me even after the first time, she couldn't snap out
of it?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You're watching the life- leave your kids' eyes, you know?
Speaker 8 (07:58):
So I know I.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Hear everybody's opinions and God bless mothers, but at the same,
I just don't understand how we can empathize with somebody that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
They weren't strangers. They were her kids.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And she was able to grab those exercise bands that
took a lot of effort. And it's, it breaks my
heart that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
These young kids gone through.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That, but.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, it's sickening and horrifying, but... You know what? Well,
I'll save my comments. We have one more clip of
that young lady. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I'm grateful that this conversation is happening because I do
believe women, they are on the back burner when it
comes to mental health. If this was a man, there
would be a law the next day or something.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Going on, but.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
There would have been research.
Something right away.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But it's just, I just feel like with her, it's becoming,
she's becoming a mascot for just, I feel like so
many mothers empathize with her so much that they want
to put her out there, make her a mascot. And
they're turning something so negative into a movement.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I hear that. So y'all will continue. You all will
not be agreeing no time soon. No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So, Oprah's smug reciting of the party line makes me insane,
and I slap my forehead and think, oh, my God.
And because it's important you don't just berate people. You
try to talk sense to them and try to change
their minds so we can have a better, healthier society.
But I hear stuff like Oprah just said, and the
(09:45):
young woman implied it in a way. And I think,
oh my God, where would I even start with you? Okay,
first of all, if it were a man, he would
be sentenced to multiple life terms, period, end of sentence,
and well should he be. Oprah is reciting the party
line that, yeah, there hasn't been enough research into women's health,
and they've been neglected by medical studies. I mean, there's
(10:06):
a certain amount of truth to that, but it just doesn't...
The point she thought she was making is she just
didn't make it all. In fact, she made the opposite point.
What struck me about the first clip, and I think
it's the disease of modern discourse, and it probably has
something to do with the Internet. And, you know, it's funny.
(10:27):
It was less than... two years ago, that I first
heard various thinkers and commentators talking about directionally, people think
this or support that, or I agree with him, directionally.
It's funny, I hadn't really heard that term. But what
it means is, if, for instance, you think the rampant
(10:50):
illegal immigration of the Biden administration was a terrible thing,
And that we need to get hold of that. You
might think, for instance, ICE really screwed up a couple
of times in Minneapolis. I do, by the way, a
couple of times. But directionally, that sounds like you're against
(11:14):
controlling the border. And so you don't dare say that
because you don't want to be seen as being, quote-unquote,
on the other side. And we run into that a
lot of times on this show because we're not willing
to do that. If our side screws up, we like
to call fouls on our own side just because we
like to be consistent. And we certainly agree, for instance,
(11:38):
on the immigration question, directionally 1,000%. So these people think.
Because I believe women have been neglected or their postpartum
struggles have been misunderstood or chuckled at or, you know,
that sort of thing. I've got to signal directionally that
(12:01):
I agree. And so that seems to be the question
in this case. So I've got to support the woman
who snuffed her three children slowly and horribly. It takes
a while to die of asphyxiation, folks. It takes a while.
It is a torturous way to die. But because we've
(12:21):
got to be directionally consistent, people are doing that. I
think that's part of our problem here. Anyway, God, this
is heavy stuff. Good Lord. We're going to lighten up
considerably in the next several minutes. Hope you can stay tuned.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we give you.
Katie's son, Van, Jack, Joe, Mike, Mike.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Hey, I love you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Listening to a child develop speech is the most joyful
and fascinating thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
I was privileged to witness it three times and it,
my dying wish is to just have like video of
that played as I drift off and think, all right,
(14:16):
there are more people they'll figure it out. Oh my God.
That's beautiful. Katie. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
He, he's totally finding his voice. And I swear the
other day, he said, I love you back. He, I mean, yeah,
he goes, Oh, and I'm like, Oh, you're so close, dude. Oh,
it's awesome. Yeah. It's great. It is. It is literally awesome.
Isn't it? Causes awe.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We're pro baby around here.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Sure.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Hey, I love.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I could understand it better that time. It was Joe's
the talented one. Yes. That's exactly what he said. Good boy.
Good boy. All right. Speaking of wise cracks, um, This
is comedian Ashley Gavin on a recent night. She there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, you'd say so? I'm not very feminine, but I'm
not masculine. You can still be a girl. I'm a girl.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
A demigirl.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
A demigirl? What?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Demi, like, sort of a girl? I don't know myself.
Then why are you telling me that? Can someone explain
to me what a Demi girl is? It's a mix
between non-binary and female. Mix between non-binary... No, because non-binary means.
Maybe the rules were fine as they were! Yeah, Ashley,
(15:49):
who is a fairly not terribly feminine-looking lesbian woman, I believe...
with exactly the amount of tolerance for that horse ass
she ought to have. None. Oh, my Lord.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Like Demi Girl is a cross between non-binary and a girl.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And she's like, wait, what? Look, sweetheart, you're not an
ice cream sundae. You're a human being. It's purely a
question of your sex. And you can be any kind
of girl you want. For the millionth time, the conservative
side says, hey, you be you. The progressive side says, yeah,
(16:33):
here are powerful chemicals that will sterilize you for the
rest of your life. You're in the wrong body. Here
are the surgeries you need to have right away. Yeah,
and we're the sick ones? We're the bigots? What? Hey, caramba. Oh,
speaking of socialist nonsense, we've got some unbelievable clips. from
(16:54):
the recent Socialism 2026 gathering. These people are insane, hilariously insane,
and succeeding. So let's enjoy but not get too smug.
But when I was reminded not too terribly long ago
that in the Communist Manifesto, one of the last sentences
in it, it's like the third last, second last, says,
(17:15):
Communists will support every movement of resistance against the status
quo wherever we find it. no matter how ridiculous or
unrelated to communism or what have you. That's why there's
so much energy being piped into the mistaken notion that
(17:39):
society demands that every girl be a feminine, girly girl, heterosexual,
stay-at-home mom. What are you talking about? Where do you
see that? But it's Marxism energizing that. Oh, you don't
like the status quo? You've got to gripe. Any gripe.
Any freaking gripe. If you're offended by the fact that
(18:01):
stores close early on Christmas Eve, Marxists will support you.
That's how it works. And we all need to wake
up to that. Anyway, the hilarious idiotic socialists coming up
in moments. Hope you can stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.
During hour four of the Armstrong and Getty show, we're
(18:22):
going to return to the topic of, uh, nine 11
fundamentalist Islam, um, history unfolding in front of us, that
sort of thing, uh, onto other fair for a little
while though, including the recent socialism 2026 conference. We've featured
a couple of bits of audio from it already. These
people are cuckoo nuts. Um, they're also winning the day
(18:44):
in our nation's schools in particular. And, um, in universities
as part of the Marxist long march through the institutions,
the idea of which is just, you've got to start
with the young people and just make them hate their country,
make them hate their people, make them hate the principles
that the previous generations have held dear. And instead of
(19:06):
those principles, substitute the principles of struggle and revolution, that
sort of thing, in the name of Marxism or socialism
or whatever they want to call it. because it's all
essentially the same thing. It's just a matter of degrees.
One of the few things I actually learned getting my
degree in political science was that so many of those definitions, well, Joe,
(19:28):
actually socialism means the ownership of, those are absolutely useless
in the real world. I mean, it's a starting place maybe,
but there's no pure form of anything anywhere on earth,
except the pure crap that comes out of the Socialism
2026 conference. Apparently, Okay, so two things to alert you
to because you can't see him or you might not
(19:48):
notice him. Number one. Every freaking one of these people
is wearing a mask like it's covid mask. Is it?
just to signal that they're part of the progressive crowd
has kind of started in COVID. Is it to disguise
their identities? Is it because they like to cosplay the
brave revolutionary, but wearing like a bandana would be too much?
(20:13):
I mean, you got your jackasses on college campuses wearing
keffiyehs because it makes them feel like Che Guevara. God,
you punks, you're just so ridiculous. Anyway, then the second
thing that you probably will notice is is that all
of these speakers have their jargon down. I mean, they
all just are vomiting these progressive-slash-Marxist phrases over and over again.
(20:39):
And they all echo each other. And as I pointed out,
that's why it's kind of funny, actually, that the way
some of the big Marxists in universities have gotten busted
was for plagiarism. They're not scientists. They're cultists. So yes,
of course they repeat the creeds of their cult. That's
(21:00):
what you do in a cult. It's not plagiarism. It's
faithfulness to their cult. Anyway, I'm glad they're gone from
the universities to the extent that they are. Not nearly
enough of them are gone, but That's always struck me
as more than a little ironic. Okay, so to the
conference we go. Let's just start with the first clip, Michael,
and see how long we're enjoying this. Please be gay,
do crimes with me.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
And it's also really f * * * ing weird
just on the.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Laws, not real thing. As an abolitionist. The ethos of abolition.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
An abolitionist positionality.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
An abolitionist liberatory ecosystem.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Debates in abolition.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
In abolition, especially if you think of it as both
methodology and ideology.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
When you abolish the police, you do burn down police stations,
I imagine.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Indeed, we have.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Or some people have, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
To the abolition of rent, nuclear weapons, prison, debt, even
monopoly power.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Imperialism.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You name it.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
And abolition is.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
What we are making rather than the erasure of what is.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So when I say, as I say many times, I
know it's a meme. Abolition is a presence.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I mean it.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, so two things. Number one, the whole be gay
and do crimes with me. What the hell? You may
remember when we talked about the whole transgender phrase, the
gender-bred person teaching little kids that you're probably part of
a sexual minority, like the comedian lady talking to a
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demi-semi-sexual girl, pansexual something or other, and had no patience
for it. Remember, if the Marxists can convince you that
you're part of an oppressed minority... And they will help
you in your fight. They gotcha. Which is why the
word Q, queer, in the LGBTQ alphabet soup thing, queer
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doesn't mean anything. It just means in opposition to the
status quo or the accepted morals points of view. It's
like an all-purpose and everybody else who wants to help
overthrow the status quo. That's what queer means, and that's
what she meant by please be gay and do crimes
with me. And then the second thing, and this is
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another thing that Marxists do, and it's very, very clever,
and there are at least a dozen solid examples of this.
They ask, what are the most powerful words in a
given culture? Racist is one, okay? To be called a
racist in America is a terrible, terrible thing because of
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our struggles like everywhere on earth with the racial bigotry, hatred, death, slavery, etc.
And so they weaponized the word racist to say, if
you're not with us Marxists, you're a racist. That was
the whole anti-racism thing. Race was its excuse. Its purpose
was to overthrow racism. Western civilization. And then abolitionist, you
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heard over and over and over again. If you've studied history,
Civil War, Lincoln, the fight against slavery from the founding
or before the founding right through the Civil War and beyond,
you know abolitionist is good guy. So they've picked out
a word that's powerful in our culture, then they use
it to describe themselves. So the people who are unaware
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of what they're doing will say, Wow, abolitionists, that's a
good word. I think these are good people and just
assume that. All right, let's plunge on.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And by feminism, I mean anti-racist feminism, anti-capitalist feminism.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Abolition feminism. As abolitionist praxis.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It has been consistent with a black feminist, black left
feminist praxis to be in solidarity with Palestine.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Pre-figurative political praxis.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
There's a difference between solidarity as political value and solidarity
as organizing practice.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Words to live by. Yeah, there are a couple more examples.
All right, Palestine. All right, that's the victim. That's the oppressor.
So Marxism is in favor of the victims. Never mind
that Hamas would kill you people at first second. God,
and like not quickly. They would torture you first, which
brings us back to queers for Palestine. Another great example.
(25:20):
Wait a minute. The so-called queers are against the norms
of Western civilization. Islamists are against the norms of Western civilization.
Wait a minute, we've got something here. That's the way
it works. Let's plunge on. To deepen the struggle, to
broaden the struggle.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
You know, love, study, and struggle is a framework for action.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Struggles across our history.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Some of us are card-carrying communists. some of us democratic socialists,
some of us pan-Africanists, radical feminists, anti-imperialists, police abolitionists.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We need a junkie communism.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
You know, Marx and Engels were actually really influenced by us,
by the Haudenosaunee, and they saw us as like this,
they called us primitive communists.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We need a junkie communism. Because I guess people who
want to do drugs in the street and live in
tents and crap on the sidewalk are against the status quo.
So they're quote-unquote queer, which means they're quote-unquote abolitionists, and
they're going to be gay and do crimes with me. Okay,
I got it. There's more! So maybe you should never
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take your commie hat off.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Daeshan is a queer and trans theorist. anarcho-communist, afro-pessimist, and
southern born-and-bred abolitionist.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I am not okay, comrades.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
For over a decade, I've been part of a sort
of transgender materialist and anti-work trans-Marxist effort in revolutionary feminism
in the West that theorizes social reproduction and trans-social reproduction
and the positive supersession of capitalist care.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, we have a winner. I mean, oh my gosh.
That dude, gal, mask-wearing man, does she have it down? Michael,
you got to play that one again. I wish we
could just skip to that last person thing, human. But
play that one again. So maybe you should never take
(27:16):
your commie hat off.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Daeshan is a queer and trans theorist. anarcho-communist, afro-pessimist, and
southern born-and-bred abolitionist.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I am not okay, comrades.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
For over a decade, I've been part of a sort
of transgender materialist and anti-work trans-Marxist effort in revolutionary feminism
in the West that theorizes social reproduction and trans-social reproduction
and the positive supersession of capitalist care.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
At least nine different, what do you even call those
things she listed off? Attitudes? Philosophies? I don't know. Wow,
this is fascinating. Oh, what time is it? Yeah, we've
got time. Let's hear the next clip.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism are deeply intertwined.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
To learn them is to decolonize our minds, right?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
As long as we haven't figured out how to get
rid of capitalism, Marx is relevant.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
To black liberation, to disabled and sick liberation, to indigenous liberation,
to trans and queer liberation, to the liberation of Palestine.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Our way of getting out of this requires us to
bring these systems down. It's absolutely essential.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh, yeah, that gal right in the middle there, she
explained what I've been trying to explain. Yeah, it's just
anybody who's got a gripe whatsoever gets co-opted and brought
under the tent. And then, you know, your particular gripe,
I don't know if you've studied every single communist regime
that's ever existed, but you're the first up against the wall, y'all,
(28:55):
because you're going to think, well, wait, wait, wait, wait,
we haven't solved the trans-reproductive problem. Afro-pessimist, I can't even
remember all that stuff, thing yet. And it's like, oh, oh,
you're a counter-revolutionary, bluey, bluey, bluey, and you die bleeding
there against the wall every single time, you young fools.
(29:20):
All right, last one.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Whether or not we call it a general strike or
whether or not we call it a national economic blackout.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
One of the best things that got organized during this
was what we can't call a general strike because then
that would acknowledge illegal strikes, but we can call an
economic blackout.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Organizing, organizing in general and political organizing in particular.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I don't know how an economic blackout would work
and how successful that would be. Go ahead and like
withdraw from the economy and don't spend any money because
you probably don't have any anyway. But you know what
would be really effective and really put people like me
in my place is if you had a verbal blackout,
if you would just. stop talking for a period of,
(30:16):
I don't know, five years or so. Why don't we
start at five years? Boy, that would send a message
to the man and the imperial, colonial, paternalistic, capitalist, imperial.
Did I say imperial? Yes, I did already. Colonialist monster.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And these people are, uh, kind of winning a little bit.
There's an interesting civil war going on inside the DSA,
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They can't harm you if they can't find you. Audrey
Fahlberg in the Free Press writing about the split between
the pragmatists who want to prioritize winning elections and the
purists who are openly Marxists. That's actually the great hope
(32:03):
of civilization. It's one of them. Well, the great hope
of civilization. is that people like you good folks understand
what all of this is, who's doing it, and why.
And yeah, a lot of these people are like well-meaning,
useful idiots, but you ought to know the ideology behind it.
But the other great hope is that, you know, 90%
of the time these people end up killing each other,
(32:24):
and so they don't get very far. But you can't
assume that that's going to be the case. In fact, yeah,
if you wait till you see whether they've overcome those
differences and have achieved critical mass, you've waited way too long.
Here's my intriguing question du jour about this whole question
(32:50):
of dynamics within the left, the political left. Does the
Democratic Party recognize what they're up against and how they
have a parasite in their body? and that the parasite
not only doesn't care if they die, they want them
to die. I know some Democrats do, but a lot think, well,
(33:11):
we'll use them in their energy for this election cycle,
and then we'll take care of them. Yeah, except it
often doesn't work that way. We shall see. More to come.
Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Hackers from Iran are claiming responsibility for an AT &
T outage in Texas that left thousands without internet, TV,
or phone service. Yeah, that's the problem when you hack
AT & T, no one can really tell.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Everything's normal. No bars, everything's normal, yeah. It's like claiming.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Responsibility for breaking the ice cream machine at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's like, yeah, it never worked, never worked. Well, that
reminds me, the Wall Street Journal has a story today
about how Max and some other fast food chains are
realizing that the kiosk thing, it's not working. And they're
going back to human beings, which I wonder if that'll
be a trend. It's a friend of mine sent me
(34:08):
an essay he wrote about he was vacationing. It was
somewhere in the northeast. I can't remember where, and it
doesn't really matter. But he was kind of unfamiliar with
the area, but needed some groceries. And he went to
a big self-checkout, super efficient, low-staff, lower-price grocery store. And
(34:33):
it was practically empty. And I don't remember if it
was the next day or he needed something else. But
then he went to the a little more expensive, but high-service,
lots of staff, uh, type grocery store in the same town,
not far away. It's like a block away. Um, and
he said it was packed, just completely full of human beings.
(34:57):
And it was a real, huh? Moment for him. Um,
it's more likely to be true in affluent areas probably, but, um,
I know if I could pay and look, I'm not
living paycheck to paycheck anymore. I've done it. I didn't
like it. Um, But if I could pay, say, 8%, 10%
more at some hardware store that was handy to me,
(35:19):
that there was always somebody I could ask questions about.
And yeah, folks, I do know which chains are better
at that. It's just where I live, blah, blah, blah. Man,
I would take that. I would take that in a minute. Anyway,
we'll see if that is a trend. Coming up next hour.
A little more discussion about 9-11, the ongoing fight against
(35:39):
fundamentalist Islam, how fundamentalist Islam tries to exploit the goodness
of the American people, even today. And also some audio
of J.D. Vance at the midterm of Palooza last night.
He's a very, very effective speaker, and he is most
likely to be the 2028 nominee, but we can talk
(36:00):
about that a little bit. That joke from Kimmel barely
sort of kind of touched on tech. And I just
wanted to give you real quickly a little digest of
the headlines kicking around today. It's a very serious piece
of writing in the free press. The threat of AI
takeover is real. And then you've got a different piece
(36:23):
from the free press. How China is stealing America's AI
as fast as they can. Industrial espionage in China are
just hand in glove. Another headline. How Chinese AI firms
tried to clone US AI models, similar topic there. And
then kind of the other side of the coin, the
New York Times is reporting, for China, a mock AI
(36:45):
attack on WeChat signals a dangerous new era. You have
to understand that WeChat is like the one or practically
the only Communist Party-accepted chat platform, and it's used for
all sorts of things, including commerce and interacting with the government,
as well as talking to your friends and stuff like that.
(37:05):
And they realized how easily hackable WeChat is. And if
there's an upside to the awesome, somewhat terrifying powers of AI,
it's that it might be an unbelievable mechanism for messing
with the communist Chinese. Anyway, if you subscribe to Armstrong
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