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April 15, 2024 35 mins

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  • Our guest, military analyst Mike Lyons, on Iran's attack on Israel...
  • The worst piece of journalism we've recently heard...
  • Joe's Master's party...
  • Our federal government shows up late to the DEI party. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington
Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty show.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
This was an extraordinary military success. Not only is Israel's
military superiority, but that Israel's not alone, that the United
States actually he actually put the President put American fighter
jets in the air actively defending Israel in Harm's way.
That goes a long way, and that sends a strong
message about where Israel is in the region versus where

(00:36):
Iran is in the region, which is increasingly oscillated now.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Was John Kirby on all the talk shows yesterday making
the argument for the White House that you take the win.
We just showed that the rest of the world is
so much better than Iran. They are embarrassed. They took
their best shot and they've been embarrassed by the rest
of the world.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You take the win. It was a huge success.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
So one of the first places I went as I
followed this news very closely on Saturday over the weekend
for analysis, was our friend Mike Lions, who were about
to hear from and he presented two options yesterday on
his Twitter thread. The first option was to take the
win as argued by John Kirby and others there. But
the second option was this from Mike Lions, and we're
going to ask him about it. Israel was attacked by

(01:19):
another sovereign nation who violated the international airspace of other
countries in an unprecedented attack of crews and ballistic missiles
and a swarm of drones. This is an escalated and
disproportional response to an attack Israel made against them. To
restore at turns, Israel needs to attack military and strategic targets,
nuclear facilities to punish Iran. It's time for war and

(01:40):
to finally eliminate this threat. I don't know which of
these Mike advocates. That's what I want to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Let's find out. CNN military analyst Mike Lions joins us
from his automobile. I believe to discuss the fairly complex
geopolitical questions before us. Mike, how are you, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Hey, good money, guys, Great to be back.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
And I'm not trying to pretend that this is an
easy decision. But of the two scenarios you laid out
to take the win or the one we just read,
which which are you actually behind?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I don't want to spread the needle here and say
you can take a little bit of the wind, but
I think you got to take the second piece.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
You have to recognize that.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh crap, we lost him, damn it. I actually want
to know the answer to this question. Mike, are you there?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, I'm here. Can hear me hearing?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We lost the entirety of your answer. If you don't
mind relaunching it.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, one more time. So I think that that you
could take you. I don't want to spread the needle necessarily,
but you can take a little bit of both.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
You could say it was somewhat of a win.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Thank god, the fact that that ninety nine percent of
those rockets were fired and never made their target, and
it does show a little bit of incompetence on Iran inside. However,
if another sovereign.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Nation does.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Words, the United States or anybody else, you have to
respond militarily. This is a complete fa Galatian here. The
terrence has got to be restored, so Israel will respond.
I was disappointed that the administration felt that they had
to leak the information that said, hey, we're one hundred
percent behind you, But guess what if you decide to
go on the offense. We're not going to help you
with that, so I you know, again clearly the Israelis

(03:20):
much respond to this. It was nothing sort of a
miracle that most of those rockets were fired.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Out of the sky.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, putting aside the to my mind, shocking and disgusting passivity.
It's almost beyond passivity. We won't do anything. Just trust us.
We were taking doing anything off the table nature of
the Biden administration. What did you make of the aid
given to Israel by a number of countries around the region.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I think it was terrific, Jordan in particular. Now, we
always knew that Jordan's was going to align itself more
with Israel if they don't want to be public about that.
Other NATO countries were obviously involved as well, and that
was good. But you know, but now the gloves are
off from an intel perspective, So now the Iranians also
know what Jordan's capability is because this was an intel

(04:10):
exercise besides just being a military exercise. They took notes
on exactly what happened and how many interceptors were fired.
And we were on the wrong side of this economic
bell curve. We fired probably more missiles at them than
they fired it up or at those rockets to take
them down. And this from from a sustainment perspective, can't
keep going. What if what if the Rains decide to
shoot another three hundred tomorrow or sneak a nuclear round

(04:33):
in one of those things. So again, it was good
to see other countries involved, and I think deep down
there's a lot of moral support for what Israel's doing.
It's just that they still can't go public with it
in that part of the world.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So the reporting.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
There was some reporting last night US officials saying they
believe Iran's intent was a mass casualty event, as opposed
to what I think a lot of us believed for
some of the weekend that they like telegraph this so
much with the I idea that they would not be successful.
They just had to show that they were, you know,
trying to do this as a gesture, which do you.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Think it was?

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, I don't buy that.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
I think the analogy is we're going to rob a bank,
and we're going to tell you we're going to rop
the bank, So we want all everybody to get in
bulletproof vests. We're gonna come in and we're gonna shoot
everybody up. You'll have a bulletproof vest and you'll be
okay as we try to commit this crime. I mean,
that's the issue here. What they did was an active
aggression against another country. Whether they warned them or not,
or whatever the case may be. They didn't fire one

(05:30):
missile or ten missiles, they fired three hundred. I mean,
the stope and scale of it was tremendous, and the
measure of effective this can't be well, we just didn't
kill anybody, we didn't hit anything. That just can't be it.
All that really did was give the Israeli cabinet top
time to now decide what their response will be, which
again I do think will be covertly in the shadows.

(05:53):
We'll have some level of military aspect to it. But
if you're a nuclear scientist or a military official and
Iran right now, you have your head on a swivel
because everyone is a target, and that's how those targets
are going to be inside Iran.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, and it's worth keeping in mind that the Israelis
respond when they desire, might be by noon today, it
might be in six weeks.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yeah, and I still we haven't seen cyber, we haven't
seen other you know, kind of soft ways that they
can respond.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Uh, and who knows.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
We know that there's challenges inside of Iran already with
that with their government, they have significant internal conflict of.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Maintaining their own power.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
So from their perspective, this might be a last gesture
in order to show that they're still control of their government.
It would be great if something happened in there yet
revolution again inside of Iran.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, it would tip.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
It looks like it appears that it would tip back
towards at least some level of normalcy.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Let's say.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Uh, but but for what's happening right now, Israel is
looking at Iran saying existential threat nuclear facilities.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the target.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, that's the story that broke late in the week
last week before this attack that Israel was that Iran
is so close once again to a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
And it's one thing to happen to because another thing
can deliver it. And so from from that perspective, I mean,
let's just say they can't go to North Korea and
get a suitcase or get something and launch it and
put it, put it something and you know, kind of
brand together in order to make this attack on the
next time, and that that has got to be what
the concern is.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
So those were all in.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
The realms of the possibilities. So that's when when Ama
Kirby says things like, let's take the w here this is.
This is not a baseball game where we're going to
play another game tomorrow. I mean, this is a long
term strategic objective. But what I don't understand about this
administration is it's very siloed in how it's dealing with
the same issue. There were all of a sudden, we're
now iron plaid against Iran, but we're really not sure

(07:49):
about what's going on with a moss and Southern guys
that you Israel could do a little better job of what's.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Going on there. I mean, it's the same enemy.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
It's the same enemy, and that's how Israel looks at it.
It's one thing for some read in the two different
research groups they have given the President or whoever the
advice is not talking to each other because they think
it's they're all separate independance channels.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's the same channel.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I never want to come off as some sort
of hyperpartisan, you know, bomb chucker, but I'm just astonished
by the ineffectiveness of the Biden foreign policy. It just
it shocks me. I'm not quite sure what to make
of it. Seeing in military analyst Mike Lions, Mike, Hey,
we sure appreciate you squeezing us in. It's great to
talk to you. Thanks for the insights.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Thanks guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, of course left out of Mike's analysis there. He's
a military guy. He's one hundred percent right, I believe
on the military thing.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, it's the same enemy. What are you talking about
a little too hard on Homas? Just right on Iran?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
The same people guys got to get elected president. The
college kids aren't in the street about Iran right now.
They're in the street about Homas and the Palestinians. So
that's the calculation there, and that's the different treatment for
different situations there, I think. But what Mike said there,
I think is exactly right is the whole what's the
strategy here for dealing with a country that chance death

(09:08):
to America, death to Israel every single day and just
launched their biggest attack ever, I saw some Republican congressman
responding to the whole but this would cause escalation.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
They escalated.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
They just escalated on Saturday, like crazy, Like they've never
escalated before.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're escalating. Yeah, the idea that we would all hug
each other and say, thank God, it's over. It's over.
We defended ourselves against the attack, and Iran's like, oh,
we're just getting started. I don't know why y'all are
a hug in over there. Yeah, there's got to be
a price to be paid. My question when we start
talking about suitcase nukes and that sort of thing, is

(09:43):
keeping in mind that I think Mike namechecked the North Koreans,
the Russians, the Chinese. Irana has few friends. Unfortunately they're
all nuclear armed. But anyway, that would be a suicide attack.
That would be the end of Tehran, which brings up
the question to what extent are the powers that be

(10:04):
in Tehran bent on apocalypse? Some of them are, Some
of them believe their Islamist lunacy is true, some of
them are not. They're just using Islam as a cover
for their political control. But you know, not to get
too deep into this, but it's an ongoing question who's
actually in charge in Tehran and to what extent. It's

(10:25):
a weird and shadowy regime.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But as we've seen with Ukraine and Russia, once a
country has if a country has nukes, the calculation is
different than in how you respond the way we respond,
or that the stuff will give to Ukraine because.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Russia is a nuclear power.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, if Iran's a nuclear power, your ability to respond
to them changes.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
If you're Israel, I think that's a bigger deal than
that they would use it offensively, and it could well
be the Israelis decide to nip it in the bud,
as they say, keeping in mind that in Mike Leon's
name check the Jordanians on being helpful and fending off
the attack, but the Saudis were as well, and there

(11:08):
are a couple other Gulf states that, rumor has it,
were more than helpful to Israel in fending off the attack.
Everybody's kind of keeping a low profile in the Muslim
world because they don't want to be seen as aligned
with Israel, but they are. So what's going on behind
the scenes diplomatically, I wish I knew, because it's guaranteed

(11:30):
really interesting and impactful. It's a shame our president has
no spine, not a single vertebrae. It's amazing you can
stand erect, no spine, vertebra, vertebrae. Yes, the Stormy Daniel's
trial has started. Today.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Got the latest polling on how people say they will
react to a verdict one way or another. It's kind
of interesting. It's moved somewhat from the last time I
saw it. Among other things we can talk about stay here.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Armstrong and Yetti.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
It was announced that a musical version of Lord of
the Rings will open in Chicago. So if you love
musicals and you love Lord of the Rings, high school
must have been a tough time. A new report from
the White House claims that President Biden's billions of dollars
of student loan relief will disproportionately help Latinos, which has

(12:27):
earned Biden the nickname El Papa Dish Sugar.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I thought Saturday Night Alive was fantastic, a couple of
weeks in a row where it's just a sketch comedy show.
It's not trying to lead the world in political opinion.
Ryan Gosling was the host who really hard to like him.
I mean he looks like a model. He can sing,
he can dance, he's flipping hilarious. But find him very likable. God,
he was funding a bunch of sketches. He can't keep

(12:55):
from laughing though, And I know that Lorne Michaels hates that,
hates when anybody busts up in a set and starts laughing,
really gets upset about that. But Ryan Gosling cannot make
it through two lines without losing it.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And he Ken from.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
The Barbie was Ken from Barbie, which I don't know,
it's the whole part of the and and he was
in La La Land. He's the He was the whole
part of the opening skit talked about Ben or Ken
from Barbie, and his co actor from his new movie
came out and said, look, everybody's sick about hearing about

(13:33):
Ken and your whole Ken thing.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I mean, it's just enough. And they did a long
thing on that. It was very, very funny, good stuff.
I'd love it just to be a comedy show and
not a anti Trump screed.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Chris Chris Stapleton, the so called country singer, was awesome
as a musical guest.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Good show. Oh wow, wow wow, Yeah, I want to
talk about the Masters a little bit and the big
Master's party I had, but we really don't have time now,
And that student loan thing reminded me. I saw this
is I mean, kicking the New York Times is great
sport and it's excellent cardiovascular exercise as well. Kick right,
kick left, kick right, kick left. But one of the

(14:10):
things we've talked about on this show for a long time.
Oh oh, speaking of Trump getting back to his ridiculous
trial in Manhattan a little later on the show, hope
you can stay tuned, But talking about the student loan
forgiveness thing and the enormous expense of college. One of
the aspects of the student loan forgiveness thing that's the
most insidious is that it permits the scam to go on.

(14:33):
Nobody has ever called to account why for why college
is so mind bogglingly expensive now, and the kids are
going into cataclysmic debt in ways that nobody ever has before.
So my heart was glad. And I see this headline
in the New York Times some colleges will soon charge
one hundred thousand dollars a year, which includes like room

(14:55):
and board, and that's for one year. How does this happen.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
That used to be how much you'd save up to
send your kid to college for four years if you're
going to a really expensive.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
School, right exactly. And so what we have been howling
is we need to get to the route. Never mind
that several steps down the line when people have barred
way too much money and now they're having trouble paying
it back allegedly, blah blah blah. No, why is the
damn product so expensive? In a way it hasn't been
well again, So I'm gratified to say, to see this

(15:25):
headline and how did this happen? In an article written
by one Ron Lieber, who I'm sure is a fine fellow,
but not much of a journalist. So I read this
article and he goes into the fact that a lot
of people don't pay full freight, but quite a few
pay enough of it that it puts them into a terrible,
terrible debt, as we're saying, and then he gets into

(15:45):
where the money goes. I'm thinking, Okay, here we go. Now,
let's dig in at a few small liberal arts colleges
with enormous endowments. Even one hundred thousand dollars would not
cover the cost of educating a student according to the schools.
Williams College says it spends roughly fifty thousand dollar dollars
more per student than its list price, for instance. In
other words, everyone is getting a subsidy. You're not overpaying,

(16:08):
you're underpaying. Now I'm like, wait a minute, let's substantiate.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
That shows all this knowledge is available on the internet,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Unfortunately, mister Leeber is too busy to substantiate, apparently, and
just takes the word of the colleges and moves on.
But wait, it gets worse. It gets worse. So then
they get into is it oh, is it worth that
I skip the good part there? It is. So a

(16:40):
lot of people claim that it's administrative bloat that's set in,
driving up tuition with outside salaries. These giant DEI departments.
We found out the other day University of Michigan spends
what fifteen million dollars a year. A lot of people
do claim that, including me. Critics of the industry believe
that kind of administrative blow is set in. But what
is the bloat really? Itdministrators oversee compliance, like the laws

(17:02):
that have made it possible for disabled people to get
two and through college and keep schools from discriminating against women.
If we don't like regulation, we can vote for different legislators.
That's their entire analysis of administrative bloat. This is a
news story, it's not an opinion story.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
How bad is that? Wow? Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
Chicago police combing for suspects after a deadly weekend of
gun violence, multiple incidents, injuring at least the forty people
and killing seven. Saturday night, a witness telling police a
black sedan approaching a crowd of people gathered outside for
a celebration, a gunman then opening fire. Eleven people hit,

(17:46):
four of them children. The shooting police eight was likely
gang related.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
As the progressive politics of our big cities continue to
pay off in ways large and small. Fabulous, speaking of which,
there's some pretty frank reporting, mostly just on the right
and center right about the chaos and degradation of the
cities that have been overrun with quote unquote migrants lately.

(18:14):
And it strikes me that while the mainstream media is
mostly ignoring that story, mostly not entirely, the people who
live there are acutely aware of it, and between that
and inflation and sinility, it's difficult to understand how the
d's hold onto the White Houses fall.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
But I have the latest big poll for you, the
New York Times Siena poll, which came out yesterday that
is considered one of the best most predictive polls we
have in America every single year.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Have that for you in a little bit, all right, fantastic.
My attention was actually not focused on people shooting each other,
because they are part of a culture that believes in
settling minor differences with deadly violence. Over the weekend, it
was watching the Masters. Is this is my favorite weekend
of the year. I make golf freak. That's a golf tournament. Yes, yes,
if you'll excuse me, I will explain precisely what it is.
It's a it's a fabulous golf tournament. That's sticking the

(19:06):
white ball. All right, Yes, that's golf. It is well
well nailed there. Anyway, it's it's my I often say
the Master's Sunday at the Masters is my super Bowl.
Of course I watched the Super Bowl too, so I
guess the Super Bowl is my World Series, and the
World Series is my Westminster Dog Show or something like that.

(19:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I don't know that's funny, but the dog show is
my Tony Awards or less.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yes, But so I decided that I haven't done this
for a number of years, that we should have a
master's viewing party. And Judy, my my beloved bride of
many moons, says, okay, how many people are you thinking of?
And I said, well, you know the usual suspects, the
guys I play with and and are pals of husband's,

(19:55):
the girls you play pickle ball with, and so, yes,
my wife plays pickle ball. Don't hate us because we're
trends and so. But the list kept because we're like, well,
if we're inviting the Smiths, we got to invite the Joneses,
you know this thing kind of motesta like that anyway,
like a wedding group. Well, and which is bad enough

(20:17):
were it not for the fact that it was determined
to play golf myself Sunday morning, and I looked around
the house and I'm like, honey, I'm gonna go ahead
and play. It looks like we're ready. I mean, I'd
set stuff up and got this, and she's like, really
all right, Well, I said, listen, I'll rush straight home
and help. How many people are we talking We're coming

(20:38):
over low twenties. Wow, that's a big party. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Having announced last week that I haven't had one human
being in my house in like a decade, twenty sounds
like a lot to me.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah. And so I get home from playing golf. I
rush home to grab a quick shower and then be
super helpful. And I look around, and of course, you know,
I think, yeah, we're more or less right. I look around.
There's like all the all the wine glasses are out
and arranged, and oh, there's like the liquor and the
mixers and the soft drinks, and there's the shark couterie
board ready. And I'm like, oh, oh, yes, that's right,

(21:14):
getting ready for a party. Now. I remember, so as
I'm playing golf, she's doing all the work for the party.
It was your idea, Yes, yes it was. And I
afterward I I issued a statement. It was like when
the defendant addresses the judge after being convicted. All right,
and I said to her, I want you to know
I understand I had this great idea. Then I let

(21:38):
the guest list get big, and then you ended up
doing most of the work. I fully recognize that I
admit it, and I will make amends for it. She said,
I appreciate you saying that. Luckily we got cool friends
and they all brought stuff and help clean up and
that sort of thing. But how many inches? Yes, how
many inches? Is the TV you were watching on? We

(21:58):
had We had two rooms Jack set up for doing
two rooms. The family room was chatting, eating and kind
of watching, and then the den my man cave, which
is referred to as the gentleman's lounge, was set up
in like stadium seating for really watching. The gentleman's lounge
my house has a toilet in it. That's what I
call the gentleman's love. Well to each their own. That's

(22:23):
a good idea.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I should do that for Super Bowl parties or Tony Awards,
whatever you're watching, have a we're just here really to
talk and kind of this is an excuse versus the
people that actually want to watch.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, yeah, it worked out pretty well. Although yeah, well anyway,
but it was a good time, and I've apologized to
my wife and we'll be making amends for some time
to come. Oh Scotti Scheffler, by the way, who is
the greatest golfer on the planet. One going away, distinct
lack of drama. But congratulations to you, mister Scheffler.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Big time Christian guy. I saw him like fully doing
the whole Jesus is My Savior thing.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
He is a very easy that's right, sir, that's what
we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Probably one of those Trump Bibles whose favorite book. You
have a lot of them around the house. And maybe
the shiny gold shoes too. But no, he's a very
easy guy to root for.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Not only is he just a very decent human being,
he's newly married, got a baby on the way. He's gracious,
self effacing, you know, he's just he's a good man. Anyway,
Sir Michael, you had a comment, I believe, No, I
just want to know how many inches of TV was?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, he still want to You still didn't answer the question,
dancing around it for some reason either either either embarrassed
of how large or embarrassed of how small I've been
in that situation.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Uh, the one is probably a fifty problem.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
What kind of man doesn't know, example, the inches up
their television.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't
measure it them. They're the ones fairly large in the
other's pretty damned large. All right, Sorry what Katie, I
don't know. This is sounding like it's probably pretty small. Joe,
I think it's ginormous.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
And he doesn't want to admit that he bought like
a ninety inch television.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
We got him beat Jack. Remember seventy seven is the
new sixty five. That's right. No, I am undersized by
your modern standards. I don't I don't know big enough
to see the golf ball. And it's only a yay
big so big enough apparently. Anyway, you had a speaking
of polls and that sort of thing, you had one, right, Yes,

(24:26):
I do so.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
The New York Times Siena Pole has taken very seriously
by all kinds of people.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I mean, and I know New York Times, but it
is a they. It's a they.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Only do it a few times, like a handful of
times during a presidential year, and it has been quite
good over the years.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
AnyWho.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
The one that came out over the weekend, the headline
being Biden has pulled back even with Trump. Last time,
Trump had a outside the margin very like five point
lead if we all remember, and now Biden has pulled
back to tie. Overall, the most interesting part. I won't
get into these numbers.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
This to me, this is the bad news for Trump,
and I prefer Trump to win than Biden if that's
the choices. But on every issue, Biden's getting killed, economy, border,
your brain, you know, even the stuff of like are
you better for democracy or not?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
All that stuff he's getting killed on.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yet it's still tied because Trump's personality is just so
flipping hard for too many people to take. And if
he could just find a way to have part of
it without the other part of it, he'd win going away.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
But oh, he'd win forty five states.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I just wanted to bring up this since the trial
started today, the hush money trial, because it's illegal to
pay a porn star to not tell the world about your.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Sex, objection to your honor. It happens all the time,
and we will reanalyze the case coming up. Stay with us.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
The latest poll found that how which numbers are the
most because I don't want to drown you numbers because
you won't remember them. Half of adults believe Trump falsified
business records, unsurprisingly split along partisan lines, so it's eighty
seven percent of Democrats believe he did. And again that's

(26:21):
what this trial is about. As Joe pointed out earlier,
it's about falsifying business records. It's not about sex, it's
not about huh hush has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, and it's calling uh NDA money. That's a Nondisco
disclosure agreement. It's it's calling NDA payments legal costs. Well,
and you know what the old saying is, if we
let people start displaying NDA payments as legal costs, the
republic will fall.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
So overall, it's about half of adults believe he did it,
but eighty seven percent of Democrats, only a third of independents,
and fourteen percent of Republicans, and are the ones that
decide the election. That's not a very large number. So
the New York Times Siena poll that came out over
the weekend asked voters what they thought the verdict in
the Husmani trial should be. Forty six percent Trump said

(27:14):
Trump should be found guilty, thirty seven percent not guilty. Again,
those fell along party lines.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Percentage of those people could even coherently explain what. Hardly
any of them.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
A different poll when a PAC poll recently found that
fifty five percent of registered voters said a conviction would
make no difference in how they voted in the presidential race.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Fifty five percent.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Only twenty nine percent said they'd be less likely to
support Trump. And those are all people who weren't going
to vote for him anyway, according to this analysis.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well that's quite the subgroup. So politically it sounds like
a complete nothing burger.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
There have been some polls that said, just in general,
not this trial, in general, just in general, if if
a like, very broadly, if a candidate has been convicted
of a felony, would you be less likely to vote?
And there's a fairly big chunk that say yes. But
I don't think that's reality. I think if it's a
specific person and a specific case, I think the numbers

(28:17):
change a lot.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right, I would agree, I would agree, And again we'll
get into some of the particulars later on. But once
people are better informed as to what's being tried here
in Manhattan, they'll join me with I don't give a
damn whether he did it or not. This is really
splitting hairs on some fairly minor campaign finance issues many

(28:44):
years down the road. It is ridiculous that this trial
is taking place at all.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Some quick analysis on the overall number that Biden has
pulled back equal from smart people that I believe in
their opinion.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Two different things.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
One that a lot of Democrats who are willing to
tell polls, no, I'm not going to support him, you know,
now that it's getting closer to the election and they
see Trump leading a lot of polls, Yeah, I'm going
to vote for him, because you know, a lot of
Democrats are going to come home, as they say in
the political business, and not actually vote against their guy
and let Trump become president. And also, and this one,

(29:19):
this one is tough, the idea that a lot of
people have forgotten a lot about Donald Trump and the
Democrats are now hammering every single day to remind people
who Donald Trump is, and that has had started to
have an effect.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't know if that one's true or not, but
it certainly could be. H do you think, yeah, oh yeah,
I understand why they would go with that strategy. His
approval and disapproval numbers have improved a great deal since
he left office. Right they're calling it Trump nostalgia or
amnesia or whatever. Yeah, grain assault national polls because that's

(29:55):
not how we are at the president. But there's a
lot of time and two candidates who people have very
little enthusiasm for, what the exception of the hardcore Trump
supporters who are certainly enthusied about their man, but it
just it has not spread well overall.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
They're the two least popular presidential candidates we've ever had.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's just a fact. Yeah, and I know this is
a bit of a cliche, but uh, the the energy
of the Trump vote being significantly anti Biden and the
energy of the Biden vote being almost entirely anti Trump
is negative. Wow. They call a lot of things a

(30:34):
lot of things these days. Yes, yeah, that's it's it's
it's amazing. We've we've come to this place in our politics.
But here we are. This is the most election of
our life. This is the most election of our lifetime.
You know, she's a good point. She's always so good
at summon things up like that.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
More on the way, has anything that he's done turned out?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Everything he touches turnstition, it's not exactly the Gettysburg address.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Guy, you take me back in a time machine, like
not very many years and say there will be a
presidential candidate, leading candidate, former president who says about his opponent.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Everything he touches.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Turns the ass and the Crown chairs and you can
get elected that way. It's just we're just different discourse now,
you know, I wouldn't use that term necessarily, but yeah,
there's very little that I can cite that Biden's done
well or that I approve of. For instance, we mentioned
I think it was last week sometime that the Office
of the Director of National Intelligence, the od NI now

(31:42):
has a big, powerful DEIA office that's diversity, equity, inclusion
and accessibility, which is neo Marxism. Our Director of National
Intelligence has a giant, powerful DEI department. I saw somebody
point out over the weekend that while of corporations and
universities are now stripping away their DEI like it, it

(32:04):
crested and is now you know, going the other direction.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, thank god, this is just happening. Yeah, the government
is going farther down the road of this racist Marxist
clap trap. And I could go on at quoite some length,
but some great coverage by Keenan Spievak of The National
Review about this is specifically the relaunch of the quarterly

(32:29):
magazine for the intelligence community, The Dive. It's a quarterly
magazine to highlight quote the great work happening across the
intelligence community. The magazine seeks to quote empower every employee
to speak their truth, and Keenan points out it's ominous
that the Office of the Director of Americans Intelligence Community
believes that each employee is entitled to his or her

(32:51):
version of the truth. What, in fact the very I mean,
if you distill down what they're trying to do, they're
trying to figure out what is what, what is happening,
what is real? What is the truth? So this bizarre
and insidious idea that everybody gets their own truth in
intelligence is especially crazy. And I could get into some
of the university spawned rhetoric that they use, but the

(33:16):
content of the article the magazine is absolutely shocking. Not
only does the Dive express concerns about the targets of
intelligence activities being offended by the intelligence community's jargon, because
they're really trying to reshape the words people use in
the intelligence community so as not to insult anyone or

(33:38):
offend them, but they anguage over the risk that the
intelligence and analysts of foreign descent would receive unpleasantries directed
at the countries of their heritage as attacks on their character.
Meaning if we're doing intelligence work on Saudi Arabia and
referred to Islamic fundamentalists, that might be offensive to our

(34:01):
Muslim analysts. So we really need to be very careful
about the words we use. And I wish we had
more time to get into this, but it is straight
out of sophomore gender studies on some university campus. This
is our intelligence community, the Office of the Director. And

(34:23):
again they're starting their program at a time where the
rest of the country seems to be it seems to
be receding, like enough people have woken up to what
it is, that it's going away. But our federal government
is starting it in some of our most critical areas too.
And this stuff is just absurd. But it'll only last.
It'll last an administration, won't it. Oh yeah, Oh, it'll

(34:48):
be gone, gone, gone, gone. And as I must repeat
every time we discuss this, dismantle all DEI programs wherever
they exist now now yesterday. They're worried that if some
of the analysts dehumanize foreigners, they might be perceived as
being less than. We don't want to other people from

(35:09):
other cultures.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I need to warn people I'm going to be super
tired tonight because I'm planning to stay up and watch
the entire WNBA Draft all rounds.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Just putting that out there ahead of time. Enjoy that,
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