June 9, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour three of A&G features...
- The new Gallup Morality Poll...
- Graham Platner & Sen. John Fetterman are not friends...
- NBA munchkins...
- CA's unusual election rules.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm
Strong and Katty and he Armstrong and Yeddy.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The excitement in New York is palpable. The New York
Knicks are now two wins away from doing something they
have not done since Richard Nixon was in office.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Was that necessary the Nixon reference?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh, the last time?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The next one, the flu was treated with leeches. No,
I know, it's been a long time. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is pretty amazing that the number one media market,
because there's so much more money involved, has not been
able to put together a team that wins an NBA
championship in that amount of time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, the Dodgers organization is asking why didn't you just
buy the best players? It works, right, it's different in basketball.
Chemistry is incredibly important. But yeah, it's an unbelievable dry.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Streak for such a huge market.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, a little more on that later. That's not really
about what's kind of about sports.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There was.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's one particular play and then Shack's analysis of it
later at halftime. It's pretty entertaining. But the Gallop Morality
poll is out. We could spend this hour, or the
rest of the show, or the rest of the week,
or probably even the rest of the year discussing this
(01:48):
if we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, let's get started. It's so deep and interesting and
so many different things.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Starting with and I think this headline came out earlier
this week before the details came out. A record fifty
Now half of the country believes are morals as a
country are poor. We do not think we have very
good morals as a country. That alone. You had something
in mail bag, one of your quotes or something like that,
(02:15):
and I almost interjected, you know, a lot of the
atheists libertarian, what however you want to identify them, crowd,
you know, really hates the idea of religion and church
being involved in any way. But it's yet to be
proven on planet Earth that you can have a moral
society without those things. I know a lot of my
(02:38):
atheist friends believe you can, but that's not been proven.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That you can. Can.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I agree and simultaneously disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The closest I've seen is your your your.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Northern European.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Places like your your Denmarks or your Sweden, because they
had one culture everybody knew each other. They're all of
the same race, they all had the same assumptions about
life and morality, and they could police each other. It
was a cohesive social unit that worked pretty well. But
(03:18):
that's like the only time it can conceivably work if
everybody has the same precepts.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think Tom Holland, the historian and his book Dominion,
would argue they're still swimming in the sea of Christianity
even all these years later.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, AnyWho, I'll just hit you with the most morally
acceptable and the most morally wrong according to this I
disagree with one of them a lot, and I'm not
going to talk about it because it would make way
too many enemies.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Most morally wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Now I'm running a ring of middle school drug dealers
financed by the.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Dog fights I stage.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I am I'm curious to know what's considered immoral
and immoral.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm trying to figure out what order to do this
all in because it's also damned interesting. The biggest change,
and it has happened, of all of them, the biggest
change is polygamy has tripled in approval since two thousand
and three, well from seven percent to twenty three percent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It's still still I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know if I have a moral opinion on polygamy,
if that's what you want to do, whatever, I don't
have a moral opinion on that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It just seems so unworkable as a lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
But I guarantee at least a significant chunk of that
change is Muslim folks and folks who don't feel like
they have any right to judge Muslim folks.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh really, yeah, Okay, you're probably right, But part of it,
I'll just hit you with a couple of the headlines
from the Pole. US support for LGBTQ plus issues remains
down from its peak, particularly the trans stuff. In fact,
only the trans stuff has gone down. Gay marriage is
still very popular, lesbian couples, all this different sort of
(05:02):
stuff they ask about, But the trans stuff is down
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So we can get to that later if you want. Yeah,
I've dug.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Deep into that, and there actually is an overall decline
on gay stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Most Americans favor legal euthanasia. Just over seven and ten
Americans believe doctors should be allowed by law to thend
the patient's life by some painless means. If the patient
and his or her family requested. I used to be
a strong yes on that, having watched it unfold in
a couple of different countries, I am now a.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
No, including Canada, which is just horrific.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It gets out of hand really quick.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And we could get into that topic if you want,
because it's really interesting and complicated. Adultera in cloning still
seen as the most immoral behaviors.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Is that one set of a two different things.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Oh, I see, okay, adulterous cloning cloning someone that you
want to have sex with outside of your marriage died,
but I got some of her DNA, so I'm going
to clone her so I can keep cheating on my wife.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Most morally wrong, counting up from fifth worst to worst
pornography at sixty four percent. That's that One's kind of
interesting to me because Chris Rock, who his marriage broke
up and he mentioned he was a porn addict or
something like that. Anyway, during one of his stand up
specials after that, he gets up there and he says,
(06:26):
I want to talk about pornography here and something like that,
and everybody booze and he says, oh, yeah, five billion
dollars a year business And I'm the only guy, and
I thought that's a pretty good point. I mean, it's
a huge business, but we're also really down on it,
or don't think other people should do it, or I
don't know what's going on there AnyWho. Pornography sixty four
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percent of people think is morally wrong, suicide seventy percent,
not very popular, polygamy seventy seven percent, although gaining in popularity.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Human culf human Michael, was that a subtle shot.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
At our Mormon friends? Oh my god? Wow? Fair on
so many levels. Wow, that was a low moment for
the show.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
People think human cloning is morally wrong. I'm glad eighty
six percent of us and the least acceptable thing on
this entire list of twenty behaviors extramarital affairs. Only seven
percent say morally acceptable.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Obviously they left horrific crimes off of this list. These
are this list of things that people generally do outside
of horrific crimes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, that regular people that you're friends with, or
who would vote for or whatever. Do I think would
be a good way to put the list. I think
that's interesting that that is the least morally acceptable thing
on the list, given the fact that we seem to
have decided for our politics that we that that's none
of our business.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I guess I don't know if that's where we are.
We didn't used to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Most morally acceptable number one, birth control at eighty three percent.
I disagree with the divorce is the second most morally
acceptable seventy four percent, but I'm not going to say
another word about it because I'll make a lot of enemies.
But unmarried sex sixty five percent, So that's interesting that
(08:27):
it's still that many people. What's the actual other number
on that the approve there. I'll tell you this. We
often make fun of people who have no opinion, very
low no opinions on any of these. It's almost all
you either find it morally acceptable or morally wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So sixty four percent of people find non marital or
premarital sex acceptable.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Let me find that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, sex between unmarried man and woman sixty five percent
find it, find it acceptable, thirty one percent unacceptable. Still
hanging on to you shouldn't get have sex until you
get married, and with the declining marriage rates and all
that sort of stuff, that's that's pretty surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, I would agree. I'm sure if you separated this
out by age. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Actually I don't know, because young people don't have sex anymore,
so maybe I'm wrong about that. Yeah, our generation, the
adults of the world, were doing everything they could to
keep us separated. Only nineteen percent of people think divorce
is morally wrong. That's a tough yes, no question, because
you have such varied situation. Sure, right, if you're I'll
(09:37):
just say this is a cavit. If your husband's beating you, yes,
you should be able to get a divorce. That's perfectly
morally acceptable. If your excuse is I fell out eleven,
I'm just not happy right now, then no, I don't
find that morally acceptable.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Hate me if you want you.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh, they already do a huge range of possible situations.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
There very difficult course.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Any opinion on birth control being the most morally acceptable
of them all.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean even among Catholics there are
a lot of people who say, yeah, come on, now,
that's that's what do you call a woman using the
rhythm rhythm method?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, So let's get to the whole transgender thing, which
has had quite a bit of movement in the last
few years. Moral acceptibility of changing one's gender hits a
new record low. I find that an interesting question, a
moral whether you find it morally acceptable to do something
that's impossible.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's why I get hung up on the question.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Right right' it's you know, I understand the nature of
this poll and why they ask the same question about
all these matters. But you know, your example of divorce
is a good one. And I read a lot about
the gay thing and the trans thing and all in
this poll, and I came away thinking what you're hinting
at that it's the wrong question, And my question would be,
(11:02):
to what extent do you think transgenderism is a healthy
expression of psychological reality or an expression of a troubled
soul desperate for an answer?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, that's using the wrong one. Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
When if I think about somebody who's decided to do this,
morality doesn't really factor into my mind. It hasn't not
per se. More like, to what extent do you think
you actually now are a different gender?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So if you asked me about promoting it to children,
you know my answer on the.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Morality of that, that is a different question. A jail's
full of you people.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was only upside down by five points in twenty
twenty one, minus five in terms of acceptable or morally wrong.
It was still mostly morally wrong, but only minus five.
It is now minus nineteen. That's a pretty big move
in five years. All right, let me hit some of.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Those real quick, and then let's come back with more
of the questions, because you're right, this is absolutely fascinating.
There's been a significant slide in LGBTQ plus issues in
terms of their morality, and the reason why is obvious
to anybody who observes this sort of thing. Lgb was fine.
It's the TQ plus stuff that are making people say, look,
(12:19):
I let the camel's nose come under the tent, because
you know, these are nice people, and I got no
right to blah blah blah. But now you're trying to
follow that up with all sorts of stuff, all sorts
of crazy stuff, and you're teaching it to children. No
hard no, So anyway, majority of Americans still support same illegal,
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same sex marriage. It's sixty five percent. That figures dropped
six percentage points from the peak in twenty twenty two
and twenty twenty three. Meanwhile, moral acceptance of gay and
lesbian relationships is dipped to sixty two gender transition.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You mentioned those numbers.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Thirty eight percent of Americans believe changing ones gender is
morally acceptable, again an odd way to look at it,
down eight points since twenty twenty one, while a fifty
seven percent majority of view it is morally wrong. The
cultural shift is largely driven by Republicans, but also to
a lesser extent, but significantly independence. Bah. Anyway, it's well,
(13:19):
it's what I said. If you're going to group all
of it together, if you demand and I have plenty
of you know, gay and lesbian friends, acquaintances and listeners
who say this themselves all the time. If you demand
that I group transgender activism at middle schools with gay
and lesbian and you tell me I've got to accept the.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Whole thing or reject the whole thing. That's a big ask. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Okay, coming up, we'll get to some of the other
ones on my list, important ones, gambling, the death penalty,
whether or not you should be able to wear fur,
the death paybalty for wearing fur. Stay here, we're taking
a look at the Gallop morality poll, where a record
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half of the country things we have poor morals. But
what do we mean by morals. I'll get to that
in a second. But the two things that pulled the
lowest extramarital affairs and cloning. We got this text adultery
and cloning actually has an interesting philosophical question. If you
clone your wife and bang the clone, are you cheating
(14:33):
two of the least acceptable things cloning human cloning and
cheating on your spout?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Complicated, it is complicated. I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is I get deeper into this the researchers on it
because a lot of the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I guess because I went to church as a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
When I think morality, immediately, like religion, pops into my
head to a certain except thank you, President sir. But
as it points out here, it seems like we're drifting
away from that version of morality and more into morality
as defined as interpersonal relations. What is going to make
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what is going to help us cooperate more? What is
going to help society function better? As morality as opposed
to like individual stuff you do.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That sort of thing, Well, that's the basis of morality,
really true?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I don't know. It gets very complicated very fast.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'll hit you with a couple of these death penalty
fifty two percent morally acceptable thirty nine percent not. I've
switched on a death penalty over the years. I've always
been for it. I'm now against it, but I don't
care if some scumbag axe murderer gets executed, so I
don't spend a lot of time thinking about it. If
I was in charge, I go with but I'm not
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going to spend a moment in my life like petitioning
for it or anything like that. Medical testing on animals
almost half of people, less than half of people find
that morally acceptable, but it goes on.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It happens.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
A lot more people find it unacceptable than acceptable morally.
Cloning animals, sixty four percent of people think it's morally
wrong to clone animals. To hear about, you know, rich
people cloning their cat or the dog because they want
to have fluffy around.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Jafier Mela, who famously cloned his dog, said something absolutely
brilliant about socialism the other day.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But I can't get past the damn dog. He is
my hero.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
If it were not for that dog I would have
I would have a Millai tattoo on my chest.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thirty eight percent of people holding on to it's immoral
to wear clothing made of animal fur. Okay, another issue
that I don't spend a lot of time getting worked
up about.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, please shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
We could get someone to some of the diceier ones.
A little bit later, the record half of America thinks
we're not a moral society? Is is something? I mean,
that's we've never felt that way about ourselves before. What
does that mean? Text line four one five two nine
five kftc.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Armstrong and Getty to Grid Platner drop out of the
main pea hustle, pee hustle.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, he's around.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Apparently we didn't match up one kick, so you know
we're not. I guess we're not going to meet with
them on that Like what what kind of a creep?
What kind of a creeper has been on a decade
on a platform like kick and send a dozen explicit
kinds of messages and who knows what else? The thing
he has going for him is the long. It's so
(17:47):
long you lose count of all the things. Uh, it's
you know, every other day there's a new one.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's Senator John Fetterman, Democrat, saying the sort of things
you usually say about people of the other party, not
people in your own party. But that's the way John
Fetterman rules, the Democratic Senator for Pennsylvania, about this guy Plattner,
who wants to be a co senator part of the
Democratic Senate majority is what they're hoping for. And Fetterman
(18:19):
apparently is more interested in the morality of this guy
than the Democrats having the majority, which I suppose is admirable.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Fetterman it was either the stroke or the fact that
he's seen the polls and realizes he's just got one term,
and so he gives zero poops about, you know, party loyalty.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He's just going to tell the truth as he sees it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They ask Platner more questions, I mean, sorry, they ask
Fetterman more questions about Plattner.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Can he drop out?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
That's that's up to Pennsylvanian, That's up to Maine. You know,
I'm Pennsylvania. So but that's here we are. And who
wants to defend those things? I don't know, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I don't know what Fetterman has heard about this Platinir guy.
I think the whole if if he can prove to
me he hasn't sent pictures of his penis to underage people.
Then I'll wear a suit every day. Does he have
any reason to think that? I mean, there's from what
I understand, there's all kinds of different stuff that goes
on into this Kick website. It could be way, way,
(19:23):
way more morally defensible legal stuff than coming on to kids.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, I don't know enough about the sites.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Swingers and stuff like that, which you know, I eat
my lifestyle, but that doesn't that's way different than sending
DPS to children. Sure, but maybe Fetterman knows something that
we don't know anyhow.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is like the term creeper. What kind of creeper
spends eight years on Kick?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Eight years is a long time ten years to be
on a wild side of life? Ten years wild side
life app That is a long time to be on
there when you want to be a US senator, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I've called people creep, but not a creeper. That's even
fun here. Yeah, women use that term a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He's a creeper, oh, which.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is usually has to do with online stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You're like creeping around online doing stuff, checking things out,
messing in people's lives. Graham Platner the dude with the
Nazi tattoo. Well, obviously, if he's doing anything sexual with kids,
that's the worst thing at all. But we don't have
any proof of that whatsoever. So the infidelity stuff, to me,
I don't know. Okay, fine, but how are we not
(20:38):
spending more time on I is he a Nazi? That
just seems like such a big deal to me. Anyway,
This is what Platner said about Fetterman.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I mean, as you can all probably tell, I got
a lot of criticisms about the way this government functions.
But in order for us to make it functional, we're
gonna have to do stuff. And you can't just go
down there and be John Fetterman and just and just
kind of just sort of be an at like it's
it's like it's that is not a that is not
(21:07):
he said mean things about me. I'm allowed to say that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So he has beat up Fetterman for voting with Trump
on things and taking money from Israel. Fetterman has voted
with Democrats ninety four percent of the time. But as
we all know, in the New culture, if you're not
one hundred percent voting for your party or libel to
be attacked. What about the whole thing where he said
he wanted somebody to break into his house and he'd
(21:34):
rape them.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
As a show of dominance.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Right, not not in a sexual way, not in a
gay way. He was like, I would rape them to
show them that I'm dominant. Set an ex girlfriend, Set
an ex girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That Platner would sit there watching TV, sharpening his axe,
talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
How he would rape intruders.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Nice boyfriend asked.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Him out those remarks. A Platner campaign official did not
dispute them. A friend who knew both the Platner and
miss Fiffield during that period said the comment sounded doubt
of character.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So as Platner sits here on the couch of the
ball game on and he's got, you know, his pummished
rock and his axe, and he's sharpening his axe.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And he's saying, I don't know if anybody ever breaks into
the show, I'm gonna do them.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'm gonna rape them a show of dominance. Then does
she say, can I talk about my day? Can we
watch Big Brother? Lois at work? Was a jerk again.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Now, I ain't no gay guy, but I'd show him
dominance by raping them.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, honey, I'm thinking the door dashing of pizza. Are
you in?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I just added, I'll rape a burglar. I'll that's all right,
I'm getting a pizza. Wow, what kind of a creeper?
Yeah no, but he would way. I know, I know
it is a weird thing to say. And again the
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Nazi tattoo.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He had it into his forties, so I don't I
don't see how you can buy the youthful indiscretion thing
at all if he had one and got rid of
it at thirty two, even to say, yeah, I was
in the military, I was being a hard ass, I
was drinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Whatever. People think that you still have that. I mean,
it's if you haven't seen it. It's a huge tattoo.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's not like, you know, chicks should get a tiny
little dolphin on their ankle.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's a huge tattoo on his chest that you would
see every time you look in the mirror. And he
still had it into his forties. He didn't get it
removed or changed into something else.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wouldn't you get tired of explaining to dates or people
at the swimming pool with your kids why he got
the Nazi tattoo?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, yeah, I was young and I was in the military.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And when I don't mean, I don't mean to quibble.
When did he get the tattoo covered and altered? It
was after he was a candidate, Yes, yes, okay, well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
As after it became a controversy as a candidate, which
is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You don't get a pass for that, do you.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, once I became a candidate, I covered up my nets,
not to well, you tell me how would they handle it.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
If it was a Republican? Oh right, please, it's easy.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I came across a great editorial saying, don't you dare
ask a Democrat about what they said more than twenty
minutes ago, because that is out of line.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I've changed, I've grown since then.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Now that I've run for office, I've realized I can't
say those things.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, No, you don't get a pass for that.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, I know, I agree with you, though I think
it's the package more than anything else. I don't know
that the Nazi tattoo alone is disqualifying. If his excuses
for combat tours Afghanistan and Iraq, you know, blah blah
blah blah blah. Can I can see that. I know
some people that served in combat. And they got a
variety of issues indeed that they deal with on a
(25:07):
regular basis.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
About the yearning to rape.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
They look kind of a creeper.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
What does where does that fall on your scale of
acceptable to and forgivable too?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not so much? While making sure your axe is not
too dull?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
All right, that's a a A dull axe is a
dangerous axe.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's right. Well, you know you're watching a ball game.
There's down modes.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You got the referees appeal, they're going under the hood.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I might as well get out my axe and quick crash.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I usually sit on the couch with my guitar and
practice a little bit. He sits on the couch, sharpening
his axe so he can keep the burglar down while
he gives him the old.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
High hard one. Yeah, it's hey, nothing weird here. There's
no creeper.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
They look kind of a creeper.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
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And then just a quick question, so then after the
showing your dominance to the burglar, do you call the
police then.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And say there was a break in? Or how does
that whole thing work?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm not sure mister Plattner is familiar with the law.
I don't know much about the laws of Maine, but
I think you might be in serious trouble, brother, unless
you're gonna utilize that act. And it's just never spoken
of again.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Oh, the one that bothers me the most really is
the whole working class guy oyster farmer bs. That's right,
that's a complete fraud. And we're going to get into
this war our next hour. These two super progressive candidate
recruiters who found this guy said, hey, he's ruggedly handsome
and swing's way left. Let's get him to be a candidate.
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And it's just his candidacy was made out of whole cloth.
I mean, he has no history, no, you know, no
tendencies toward wanting to lead in politics or interest in
policy or whatever. He's just he's a Manchurian candidate. Not
that a lot of sincere politicians are just pieces. Oh yeah, right, absolutely,
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But it's just this is this is.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
How we get candidates now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So I can't look at any news screen without seeing
a little something about Game one last or Game three
last night of the NBA Finals, because it was in
New York and everybody that works in media, lives in
New York, and they care about it. This is a
non sports related comment on the game coming up, though
Shaquil o'ne and Charles Barkley were pretty funny at halftime
last night, among other things to talk about stay with us.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
A lot of post wrestling going down there.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
His heart comes up, Ronce, it's got to be smart
though he's already got one foul.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Watched this play. This is what frustrated Bronce. Oh whoa,
that's excuse me, that should be a flagrant one.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I can understand why bront said, And then Whindy's laughing
at it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, I uh.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm not a Knicks fan, but if I were, I'd
have been saying, what was with the reffing last night?
I would have said, oh, clearly they wanted this to
go another game or so how many gazillions of dollars
are on the line if it gets to a game
six back in New York. But that was one of
the all time fouls not called any game. When beyond
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it grabs their star player. When beyond the nine foot
frenchman for the Spurs grabs the Knicks star player behind
the neck and shoves him down like they did those
Al Salvadoran prisons prisoners and.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Held him down for while.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Never got called, and Wemby was actually smiling like, oh
my god, I can't believe I got away with that.
Any who, what I thought was funny was at halftime.
H it came up as so like a dirty player?
Was it not a dirty play? And Shaquille O'Neal, the
former lumbering giant of the LA Lakers and other teams
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winning championships, was okay with the play, as he stated,
but listen, this is what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
If your thing, I like that, move right there. You
gotta let those little munchkins go. Come on, man, you
can't do this.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You can you can?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You like your little lass off? Yes I can. No,
you can't do Ernie Harney, listen to it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm listening to you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh my god. That's one social chiships. Some people want
to win by tactics. Some people want to win by killing.
You don't find doing it. I don't put your little
ass out to wear. You know I'm not winning by
tactics already. I'm bunching your ass. Go out there. He
did it, and you know what we were gonna do.
He did well by Wednesday night, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It was funny Shack saying, you gotta to let the
munchkins know what's going on, get their little asses out
of your way, grab them by the neck and push
them to the ground.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I thought that was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So the next thing was, uh, Barkley saying it's over,
and they said, do you think it's over?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh yeah, guarantee it, brother, it is over. It is
going to be a sweep. It is over. And Shaq said,
you want to bet on that?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And Barkley says, I'll bet my house against your tiny
little house, and and Shaguil got like a wide eye,
like do I respond to this or not? And he said, uh,
what did you say? And then checks it. Barkley said,
I guess you got a bigger house than me. So
I looked up their net worths. Shaquille O'Neil's worth half
a billion dollars now five hundred million dollars. He's on
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his way to becoming a billionaire. So somebody find it's
he's made enough money that he's actually to the Forbes
Richest People thing because he's such a businessman.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah right, he's right.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He decided early in his career to get into business investments.
It's interesting how some people do that and some people
spend all the money and end up broke. Barkley is
worth a mere one hundred and fifty million dollars against
your tiny house, excuse me, practically penniless after a certain
amount of wealth. Though, for anybody, isn't the size of
your house or how fancy your car is. That's a
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that's more of a personal choice then your what you
care about in life, right, Sure you care about having
a watch with lots of diamonds on it, or a
private plane, or it's.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Not multiple houses. Sure, it's all choices.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Joe Quill o'neils has got great stories about when he
first got rich.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He spent all his money immediately.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
He was one of those people that had gotten no
life lessons about money at all. He got he got
a check and spent it all and then got a
call from his countan or manager or whoever called him
and said, hey were like sixty million dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like what he had no idea of taxes. He was
completely unaware of.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The idea of taxes that if somebody gave you fifty
million dollars. You're gonna have to pay you twenty five
million in taxes. He thought it was all is and
spend it all? Is that something that you could get
to that level?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think the leagues do a lot better than they
used to on that because there are so many stories
that young superstars are just players who who would do
that sort of thing and end up miserable and broke.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, because I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Him telling this story the other day on he said,
then I got the tax speech, which I had never
heard before.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow. Yeah, somebody's got to look out for you better
than that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, totally different topic that I want to squeeze in
very quickly before the end of the hour. I thought
the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal did a
good job, excuse me, talking about California's election, a recent election,
whether it's rigged and that sort of thing, and you know,
they talk about Trump. I don't want to make this
about Trump, but how Spencer Pratt was in second place
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behind Karen Bass, with an eight point lead over left
wing city council woman Nitthia Raman, who is a communist.
At that point, about half of the ballots were cast,
and then MS Ramen Leapfrog Pratt on Sunday after tens
of thousands of additional ballots were accounted. But the point
of this is not thumbs up or thumbs down on
whether there's rigging going on. But their point is everything
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California does undermines confidence in the election.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Since mail in ballots to all.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Registered voters who have until election day to send them back,
many ballots don't arrive at the county election office a
little days later. California lets people register and vote on
election day. Voters may cast ballots in person at any
polling place in their county. The result is a large
number of provisional ballots that casts that require more scrutiny
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the state. Let's third parties, including unions, campaigns, and political parties,
collect and return to an unlimited number of ballots on
voter's behalf, a practice known as ballot harvesting. This can
result result in large dumps of mail in ballots that
support a particular candidate. Ballots that arrive after election day
have skewed way democratic they mentioned go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When ballot harvesting has been done in Republican states, it's
called out by the national media as a horror.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
There are only a few states that allow it because
it is so clearly at an avenue toward vote fraud
and skull duggaries.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Can we pass any federal laws about but this? I
know our elections. We use federalism on purpose to allow
all kinds of states and counties and everything to do
things their own way. But can we have some sort
of you gotta have the result in within two days
or something.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Let me hit a couple more things real quickly. Democrats
legislative election rules to make it exceptionally easy to register
and vote, with the intent of boosting turnout among young
and low propensity voters who lean left in huge numbers.
But these rules also create openings for fraud and improper voting.
ID is not strictly required to register to vote. You
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absolutely don't have to show them to vote. State lists
a gym card, a drug prescription, even a sample ballot
as acceptable forms of ID.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
A gym card.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Federal prosecutor last month and died into California woman for
paying homeless people on skid road to register using her
former address, meeting ballots would be sent there. She agreed
to plead guilty. There are quite a number of cases
like that.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
The idea of an election being stolen is a horror,
But a bigger horror for me, at least today, is
that so many Democrats in Los Angeles, for instance, are
so married to their party that they can't imagine trying
something else, no matter how many drug addicts you got
camping on the streets.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And even if they watch it literally burn to the ground. Right,
let's not make any changes.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The excitement in New York is palpable. The New York
Knicks are now two wins away from doing something they
have not done since Richard Nixon was in office.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Was that necessary the Nixon reference?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh, the last time?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The next one, the flu was treated with leeches. No,
I know, it's been a long time. Look at me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is pretty amazing that the number one media market,
because there's so much more money involved, has not been
able to put together a team that wins an NBA
championship in that amount of time.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, the Dodgers organization is asking why didn't you just
buy the best players? It works, right, it's different in basketball.
Chemistry is incredibly important. But yeah, it's an unbelievable dry.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Streak for such a huge market.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, a little more on that later. That's not really
about what's kind of about sports.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
There was.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's one particular play and then Shack's analysis of it
later at halftime. It's pretty entertaining. But the Gallop Morality
poll is out. We could spend this hour, or the
rest of the show, or the rest of the week,
or probably even the rest of the year discussing this
(01:48):
if we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, let's get started. It's so deep and interesting and
so many different things.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Starting with and I think this headline came out earlier
this week before the details came out. A record fifty
Now half of the country believes are morals as a
country are poor. We do not think we have very
good morals as a country. That alone. You had something
in mail bag, one of your quotes or something like that,
(02:15):
and I almost interjected, you know, a lot of the
atheists libertarian, what however you want to identify them, crowd,
you know, really hates the idea of religion and church
being involved in any way. But it's yet to be
proven on planet Earth that you can have a moral
society without those things. I know a lot of my
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atheist friends believe you can, but that's not been proven.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That you can. Can.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I agree and simultaneously disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The closest I've seen is your your your.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Northern European.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Places like your your Denmarks or your Sweden, because they
had one culture everybody knew each other. They're all of
the same race, they all had the same assumptions about
life and morality, and they could police each other. It
was a cohesive social unit that worked pretty well. But
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that's like the only time it can conceivably work if
everybody has the same precepts.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think Tom Holland, the historian and his book Dominion,
would argue they're still swimming in the sea of Christianity
even all these years later.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Absolutely true.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, AnyWho, I'll just hit you with the most morally
acceptable and the most morally wrong according to this I
disagree with one of them a lot, and I'm not
going to talk about it because it would make way
too many enemies.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Most morally wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Now I'm running a ring of middle school drug dealers
financed by the.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Dog fights I stage.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I am I'm curious to know what's considered immoral
and immoral.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm trying to figure out what order to do this
all in because it's also damned interesting. The biggest change,
and it has happened, of all of them, the biggest
change is polygamy has tripled in approval since two thousand
and three, well from seven percent to twenty three percent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It's still still I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know if I have a moral opinion on polygamy,
if that's what you want to do, whatever, I don't
have a moral opinion on that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It just seems so unworkable as a lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
But I guarantee at least a significant chunk of that
change is Muslim folks and folks who don't feel like
they have any right to judge Muslim folks.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh really, yeah, Okay, you're probably right, But part of it,
I'll just hit you with a couple of the headlines
from the Pole. US support for LGBTQ plus issues remains
down from its peak, particularly the trans stuff. In fact,
only the trans stuff has gone down. Gay marriage is
still very popular, lesbian couples, all this different sort of
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stuff they ask about, But the trans stuff is down
a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So we can get to that later if you want. Yeah,
I've dug.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Deep into that, and there actually is an overall decline
on gay stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Most Americans favor legal euthanasia. Just over seven and ten
Americans believe doctors should be allowed by law to thend
the patient's life by some painless means. If the patient
and his or her family requested. I used to be
a strong yes on that, having watched it unfold in
a couple of different countries, I am now a.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
No, including Canada, which is just horrific.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It gets out of hand really quick.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And we could get into that topic if you want,
because it's really interesting and complicated. Adultera in cloning still
seen as the most immoral behaviors.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Is that one set of a two different things.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Oh, I see, okay, adulterous cloning cloning someone that you
want to have sex with outside of your marriage died,
but I got some of her DNA, so I'm going
to clone her so I can keep cheating on my wife.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Most morally wrong, counting up from fifth worst to worst
pornography at sixty four percent. That's that One's kind of
interesting to me because Chris Rock, who his marriage broke
up and he mentioned he was a porn addict or
something like that. Anyway, during one of his stand up
specials after that, he gets up there and he says,
(06:26):
I want to talk about pornography here and something like that,
and everybody booze and he says, oh, yeah, five billion
dollars a year business And I'm the only guy, and
I thought that's a pretty good point. I mean, it's
a huge business, but we're also really down on it,
or don't think other people should do it, or I
don't know what's going on there AnyWho. Pornography sixty four
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percent of people think is morally wrong, suicide seventy percent,
not very popular, polygamy seventy seven percent, although gaining in popularity.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Human culf human Michael, was that a subtle shot.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
At our Mormon friends? Oh my god? Wow? Fair on
so many levels. Wow, that was a low moment for
the show.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
People think human cloning is morally wrong. I'm glad eighty
six percent of us and the least acceptable thing on
this entire list of twenty behaviors extramarital affairs. Only seven
percent say morally acceptable.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Obviously they left horrific crimes off of this list. These
are this list of things that people generally do outside
of horrific crimes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, that regular people that you're friends with, or
who would vote for or whatever. Do I think would
be a good way to put the list. I think
that's interesting that that is the least morally acceptable thing
on the list, given the fact that we seem to
have decided for our politics that we that that's none
of our business.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I guess I don't know if that's where we are.
We didn't used to be there.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Most morally acceptable number one, birth control at eighty three percent.
I disagree with the divorce is the second most morally
acceptable seventy four percent, but I'm not going to say
another word about it because I'll make a lot of enemies.
But unmarried sex sixty five percent, So that's interesting that
(08:27):
it's still that many people. What's the actual other number
on that the approve there. I'll tell you this. We
often make fun of people who have no opinion, very
low no opinions on any of these. It's almost all
you either find it morally acceptable or morally wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So sixty four percent of people find non marital or
premarital sex acceptable.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Let me find that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, sex between unmarried man and woman sixty five percent
find it, find it acceptable, thirty one percent unacceptable. Still
hanging on to you shouldn't get have sex until you
get married, and with the declining marriage rates and all
that sort of stuff, that's that's pretty surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, I would agree. I'm sure if you separated this
out by age. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Actually I don't know, because young people don't have sex anymore,
so maybe I'm wrong about that. Yeah, our generation, the
adults of the world, were doing everything they could to
keep us separated. Only nineteen percent of people think divorce
is morally wrong. That's a tough yes, no question, because
you have such varied situation. Sure, right, if you're I'll
(09:37):
just say this is a cavit. If your husband's beating you, yes,
you should be able to get a divorce. That's perfectly
morally acceptable. If your excuse is I fell out eleven,
I'm just not happy right now, then no, I don't
find that morally acceptable.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Hate me if you want you.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh, they already do a huge range of possible situations.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
There very difficult course.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Any opinion on birth control being the most morally acceptable
of them all.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean even among Catholics there are
a lot of people who say, yeah, come on, now,
that's that's what do you call a woman using the
rhythm rhythm method?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, So let's get to the whole transgender thing, which
has had quite a bit of movement in the last
few years. Moral acceptibility of changing one's gender hits a
new record low. I find that an interesting question, a
moral whether you find it morally acceptable to do something
that's impossible.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's why I get hung up on the question.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Right right' it's you know, I understand the nature of
this poll and why they ask the same question about
all these matters. But you know, your example of divorce
is a good one. And I read a lot about
the gay thing and the trans thing and all in
this poll, and I came away thinking what you're hinting
at that it's the wrong question, And my question would be,
(11:02):
to what extent do you think transgenderism is a healthy
expression of psychological reality or an expression of a troubled
soul desperate for an answer?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, that's using the wrong one. Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
When if I think about somebody who's decided to do this,
morality doesn't really factor into my mind. It hasn't not
per se. More like, to what extent do you think
you actually now are a different gender?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So if you asked me about promoting it to children,
you know my answer on the.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Morality of that, that is a different question. A jail's
full of you people.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was only upside down by five points in twenty
twenty one, minus five in terms of acceptable or morally wrong.
It was still mostly morally wrong, but only minus five.
It is now minus nineteen. That's a pretty big move
in five years. All right, let me hit some of.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Those real quick, and then let's come back with more
of the questions, because you're right, this is absolutely fascinating.
There's been a significant slide in LGBTQ plus issues in
terms of their morality, and the reason why is obvious
to anybody who observes this sort of thing. Lgb was fine.
It's the TQ plus stuff that are making people say, look,
(12:19):
I let the camel's nose come under the tent, because
you know, these are nice people, and I got no
right to blah blah blah. But now you're trying to
follow that up with all sorts of stuff, all sorts
of crazy stuff, and you're teaching it to children. No
hard no, So anyway, majority of Americans still support same illegal,
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same sex marriage. It's sixty five percent. That figures dropped
six percentage points from the peak in twenty twenty two
and twenty twenty three. Meanwhile, moral acceptance of gay and
lesbian relationships is dipped to sixty two gender transition.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You mentioned those numbers.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Thirty eight percent of Americans believe changing ones gender is
morally acceptable, again an odd way to look at it,
down eight points since twenty twenty one, while a fifty
seven percent majority of view it is morally wrong. The
cultural shift is largely driven by Republicans, but also to
a lesser extent, but significantly independence. Bah. Anyway, it's well,
(13:19):
it's what I said. If you're going to group all
of it together, if you demand and I have plenty
of you know, gay and lesbian friends, acquaintances and listeners
who say this themselves all the time. If you demand
that I group transgender activism at middle schools with gay
and lesbian and you tell me I've got to accept the.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Whole thing or reject the whole thing. That's a big ask. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Okay, coming up, we'll get to some of the other
ones on my list, important ones, gambling, the death penalty,
whether or not you should be able to wear fur,
the death paybalty for wearing fur. Stay here, we're taking
a look at the Gallop morality poll, where a record
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half of the country things we have poor morals. But
what do we mean by morals. I'll get to that
in a second. But the two things that pulled the
lowest extramarital affairs and cloning. We got this text adultery
and cloning actually has an interesting philosophical question. If you
clone your wife and bang the clone, are you cheating
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two of the least acceptable things cloning human cloning and
cheating on your spout?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Complicated, it is complicated. I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is I get deeper into this the researchers on it
because a lot of the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I guess because I went to church as a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
When I think morality, immediately, like religion, pops into my
head to a certain except thank you, President sir. But
as it points out here, it seems like we're drifting
away from that version of morality and more into morality
as defined as interpersonal relations. What is going to make
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what is going to help us cooperate more? What is
going to help society function better? As morality as opposed
to like individual stuff you do.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That sort of thing, Well, that's the basis of morality,
really true?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I don't know. It gets very complicated very fast.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'll hit you with a couple of these death penalty
fifty two percent morally acceptable thirty nine percent not. I've
switched on a death penalty over the years. I've always
been for it. I'm now against it, but I don't
care if some scumbag axe murderer gets executed, so I
don't spend a lot of time thinking about it. If
I was in charge, I go with but I'm not
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going to spend a moment in my life like petitioning
for it or anything like that. Medical testing on animals
almost half of people, less than half of people find
that morally acceptable, but it goes on.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
It happens.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
A lot more people find it unacceptable than acceptable morally.
Cloning animals, sixty four percent of people think it's morally
wrong to clone animals. To hear about, you know, rich
people cloning their cat or the dog because they want
to have fluffy around.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Jafier Mela, who famously cloned his dog, said something absolutely
brilliant about socialism the other day.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
But I can't get past the damn dog. He is
my hero.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
If it were not for that dog I would have
I would have a Millai tattoo on my chest.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thirty eight percent of people holding on to it's immoral
to wear clothing made of animal fur. Okay, another issue
that I don't spend a lot of time getting worked
up about.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, please shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
We could get someone to some of the diceier ones.
A little bit later, the record half of America thinks
we're not a moral society? Is is something? I mean,
that's we've never felt that way about ourselves before. What
does that mean? Text line four one five two nine
five kftc.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Armstrong and Getty to Grid Platner drop out of the
main pea hustle, pee hustle.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, he's around.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Apparently we didn't match up one kick, so you know
we're not. I guess we're not going to meet with
them on that Like what what kind of a creep?
What kind of a creeper has been on a decade
on a platform like kick and send a dozen explicit
kinds of messages and who knows what else? The thing
he has going for him is the long. It's so
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long you lose count of all the things. Uh, it's
you know, every other day there's a new one.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's Senator John Fetterman, Democrat, saying the sort of things
you usually say about people of the other party, not
people in your own party. But that's the way John
Fetterman rules, the Democratic Senator for Pennsylvania, about this guy Plattner,
who wants to be a co senator part of the
Democratic Senate majority is what they're hoping for. And Fetterman
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apparently is more interested in the morality of this guy
than the Democrats having the majority, which I suppose is admirable.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Fetterman it was either the stroke or the fact that
he's seen the polls and realizes he's just got one term,
and so he gives zero poops about, you know, party loyalty.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
He's just going to tell the truth as he sees it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They ask Platner more questions, I mean, sorry, they ask
Fetterman more questions about Plattner.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Can he drop out?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
That's that's up to Pennsylvanian, That's up to Maine. You know,
I'm Pennsylvania. So but that's here we are. And who
wants to defend those things? I don't know, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I don't know what Fetterman has heard about this Platinir guy.
I think the whole if if he can prove to
me he hasn't sent pictures of his penis to underage people.
Then I'll wear a suit every day. Does he have
any reason to think that? I mean, there's from what
I understand, there's all kinds of different stuff that goes
on into this Kick website. It could be way, way,
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way more morally defensible legal stuff than coming on to kids.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, I don't know enough about the sites.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Swingers and stuff like that, which you know, I eat
my lifestyle, but that doesn't that's way different than sending
DPS to children. Sure, but maybe Fetterman knows something that
we don't know anyhow.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is like the term creeper. What kind of creeper
spends eight years on Kick?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Eight years is a long time ten years to be
on a wild side of life? Ten years wild side
life app That is a long time to be on
there when you want to be a US senator, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I've called people creep, but not a creeper. That's even
fun here. Yeah, women use that term a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He's a creeper, oh, which.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is usually has to do with online stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You're like creeping around online doing stuff, checking things out,
messing in people's lives. Graham Platner the dude with the
Nazi tattoo. Well, obviously, if he's doing anything sexual with kids,
that's the worst thing at all. But we don't have
any proof of that whatsoever. So the infidelity stuff, to me,
I don't know. Okay, fine, but how are we not
(20:38):
spending more time on I is he a Nazi? That
just seems like such a big deal to me. Anyway,
This is what Platner said about Fetterman.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I mean, as you can all probably tell, I got
a lot of criticisms about the way this government functions.
But in order for us to make it functional, we're
gonna have to do stuff. And you can't just go
down there and be John Fetterman and just and just
kind of just sort of be an at like it's
it's like it's that is not a that is not
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he said mean things about me. I'm allowed to say that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So he has beat up Fetterman for voting with Trump
on things and taking money from Israel. Fetterman has voted
with Democrats ninety four percent of the time. But as
we all know, in the New culture, if you're not
one hundred percent voting for your party or libel to
be attacked. What about the whole thing where he said
he wanted somebody to break into his house and he'd
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rape them.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
As a show of dominance.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Right, not not in a sexual way, not in a
gay way. He was like, I would rape them to
show them that I'm dominant. Set an ex girlfriend, Set
an ex girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
That Platner would sit there watching TV, sharpening his axe,
talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
How he would rape intruders.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Nice boyfriend asked.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Him out those remarks. A Platner campaign official did not
dispute them. A friend who knew both the Platner and
miss Fiffield during that period said the comment sounded doubt
of character.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So as Platner sits here on the couch of the
ball game on and he's got, you know, his pummished
rock and his axe, and he's sharpening his axe.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And he's saying, I don't know if anybody ever breaks into
the show, I'm gonna do them.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'm gonna rape them a show of dominance. Then does
she say, can I talk about my day? Can we
watch Big Brother? Lois at work? Was a jerk again.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Now, I ain't no gay guy, but I'd show him
dominance by raping them.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, honey, I'm thinking the door dashing of pizza. Are
you in?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I just added, I'll rape a burglar. I'll that's all right,
I'm getting a pizza. Wow, what kind of a creeper?
Yeah no, but he would way. I know, I know
it is a weird thing to say. And again the
(23:06):
Nazi tattoo.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He had it into his forties, so I don't I
don't see how you can buy the youthful indiscretion thing
at all if he had one and got rid of
it at thirty two, even to say, yeah, I was
in the military, I was being a hard ass, I
was drinking a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Whatever. People think that you still have that. I mean,
it's if you haven't seen it. It's a huge tattoo.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's not like, you know, chicks should get a tiny
little dolphin on their ankle.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's a huge tattoo on his chest that you would
see every time you look in the mirror. And he
still had it into his forties. He didn't get it
removed or changed into something else.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wouldn't you get tired of explaining to dates or people
at the swimming pool with your kids why he got
the Nazi tattoo?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, yeah, I was young and I was in the military.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And when I don't mean, I don't mean to quibble.
When did he get the tattoo covered and altered? It
was after he was a candidate, Yes, yes, okay, well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
As after it became a controversy as a candidate, which
is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You don't get a pass for that, do you.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, once I became a candidate, I covered up my nets,
not to well, you tell me how would they handle it.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
If it was a Republican? Oh right, please, it's easy.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I came across a great editorial saying, don't you dare
ask a Democrat about what they said more than twenty
minutes ago, because that is out of line.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I've changed, I've grown since then.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Now that I've run for office, I've realized I can't
say those things.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, No, you don't get a pass for that.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, I know, I agree with you, though I think
it's the package more than anything else. I don't know
that the Nazi tattoo alone is disqualifying. If his excuses
for combat tours Afghanistan and Iraq, you know, blah blah
blah blah blah. Can I can see that. I know
some people that served in combat. And they got a
variety of issues indeed that they deal with on a
(25:07):
regular basis.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
About the yearning to rape.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
They look kind of a creeper.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
What does where does that fall on your scale of
acceptable to and forgivable too?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not so much? While making sure your axe is not
too dull?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
All right, that's a a A dull axe is a
dangerous axe.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's right. Well, you know you're watching a ball game.
There's down modes.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You got the referees appeal, they're going under the hood.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I might as well get out my axe and quick crash.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I usually sit on the couch with my guitar and
practice a little bit. He sits on the couch, sharpening
his axe so he can keep the burglar down while
he gives him the old.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
High hard one. Yeah, it's hey, nothing weird here. There's
no creeper.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
They look kind of a creeper.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
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And then just a quick question, so then after the
showing your dominance to the burglar, do you call the
police then.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And say there was a break in? Or how does
that whole thing work?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm not sure mister Plattner is familiar with the law.
I don't know much about the laws of Maine, but
I think you might be in serious trouble, brother, unless
you're gonna utilize that act. And it's just never spoken
of again.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Oh, the one that bothers me the most really is
the whole working class guy oyster farmer bs. That's right,
that's a complete fraud. And we're going to get into
this war our next hour. These two super progressive candidate
recruiters who found this guy said, hey, he's ruggedly handsome
and swing's way left. Let's get him to be a candidate.
(27:46):
And it's just his candidacy was made out of whole cloth.
I mean, he has no history, no, you know, no
tendencies toward wanting to lead in politics or interest in
policy or whatever. He's just he's a Manchurian candidate. Not
that a lot of sincere politicians are just pieces. Oh yeah, right, absolutely,
(28:07):
But it's just this is this is.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
How we get candidates now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So I can't look at any news screen without seeing
a little something about Game one last or Game three
last night of the NBA Finals, because it was in
New York and everybody that works in media, lives in
New York, and they care about it. This is a
non sports related comment on the game coming up, though
Shaquil o'ne and Charles Barkley were pretty funny at halftime
last night, among other things to talk about stay with us.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
A lot of post wrestling going down there.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
His heart comes up, Ronce, it's got to be smart
though he's already got one foul.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Watched this play. This is what frustrated Bronce. Oh whoa,
that's excuse me, that should be a flagrant one.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I can understand why bront said, And then Whindy's laughing
at it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, I uh.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm not a Knicks fan, but if I were, I'd
have been saying, what was with the reffing last night?
I would have said, oh, clearly they wanted this to
go another game or so how many gazillions of dollars
are on the line if it gets to a game
six back in New York. But that was one of
the all time fouls not called any game. When beyond
(29:19):
it grabs their star player. When beyond the nine foot
frenchman for the Spurs grabs the Knicks star player behind
the neck and shoves him down like they did those
Al Salvadoran prisons prisoners and.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Held him down for while.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Never got called, and Wemby was actually smiling like, oh
my god, I can't believe I got away with that.
Any who, what I thought was funny was at halftime.
H it came up as so like a dirty player?
Was it not a dirty play? And Shaquille O'Neal, the
former lumbering giant of the LA Lakers and other teams
(29:57):
winning championships, was okay with the play, as he stated,
but listen, this is what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
If your thing, I like that, move right there. You
gotta let those little munchkins go. Come on, man, you
can't do this.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
You can you can?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You like your little lass off? Yes I can. No,
you can't do Ernie Harney, listen to it.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm listening to you.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh my god. That's one social chiships. Some people want
to win by tactics. Some people want to win by killing.
You don't find doing it. I don't put your little
ass out to wear. You know I'm not winning by
tactics already. I'm bunching your ass. Go out there. He
did it, and you know what we were gonna do.
He did well by Wednesday night, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It was funny Shack saying, you gotta to let the
munchkins know what's going on, get their little asses out
of your way, grab them by the neck and push
them to the ground.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I thought that was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So the next thing was, uh, Barkley saying it's over,
and they said, do you think it's over?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh yeah, guarantee it, brother, it is over. It is
going to be a sweep. It is over. And Shaq said,
you want to bet on that?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And Barkley says, I'll bet my house against your tiny
little house, and and Shaguil got like a wide eye,
like do I respond to this or not? And he said, uh,
what did you say? And then checks it. Barkley said,
I guess you got a bigger house than me. So
I looked up their net worths. Shaquille O'Neil's worth half
a billion dollars now five hundred million dollars. He's on
(31:24):
his way to becoming a billionaire. So somebody find it's
he's made enough money that he's actually to the Forbes
Richest People thing because he's such a businessman.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah right, he's right.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He decided early in his career to get into business investments.
It's interesting how some people do that and some people
spend all the money and end up broke. Barkley is
worth a mere one hundred and fifty million dollars against
your tiny house, excuse me, practically penniless after a certain
amount of wealth. Though, for anybody, isn't the size of
your house or how fancy your car is. That's a
(31:59):
that's more of a personal choice then your what you
care about in life, right, Sure you care about having
a watch with lots of diamonds on it, or a
private plane, or it's.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Not multiple houses. Sure, it's all choices.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Joe Quill o'neils has got great stories about when he
first got rich.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He spent all his money immediately.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
He was one of those people that had gotten no
life lessons about money at all. He got he got
a check and spent it all and then got a
call from his countan or manager or whoever called him
and said, hey were like sixty million dollars in debt.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Like what he had no idea of taxes. He was
completely unaware of.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The idea of taxes that if somebody gave you fifty
million dollars. You're gonna have to pay you twenty five
million in taxes. He thought it was all is and
spend it all? Is that something that you could get
to that level?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think the leagues do a lot better than they
used to on that because there are so many stories
that young superstars are just players who who would do
that sort of thing and end up miserable and broke.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, because I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Him telling this story the other day on he said,
then I got the tax speech, which I had never
heard before.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow. Yeah, somebody's got to look out for you better
than that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, totally different topic that I want to squeeze in
very quickly before the end of the hour. I thought
the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal did a
good job, excuse me, talking about California's election, a recent election,
whether it's rigged and that sort of thing, and you know,
they talk about Trump. I don't want to make this
about Trump, but how Spencer Pratt was in second place
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behind Karen Bass, with an eight point lead over left
wing city council woman Nitthia Raman, who is a communist.
At that point, about half of the ballots were cast,
and then MS Ramen Leapfrog Pratt on Sunday after tens
of thousands of additional ballots were accounted. But the point
of this is not thumbs up or thumbs down on
whether there's rigging going on. But their point is everything
(33:54):
California does undermines confidence in the election.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Since mail in ballots to all.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Registered voters who have until election day to send them back,
many ballots don't arrive at the county election office a
little days later. California lets people register and vote on
election day. Voters may cast ballots in person at any
polling place in their county. The result is a large
number of provisional ballots that casts that require more scrutiny
(34:22):
the state. Let's third parties, including unions, campaigns, and political parties,
collect and return to an unlimited number of ballots on
voter's behalf, a practice known as ballot harvesting. This can
result result in large dumps of mail in ballots that
support a particular candidate. Ballots that arrive after election day
have skewed way democratic they mentioned go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When ballot harvesting has been done in Republican states, it's
called out by the national media as a horror.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
There are only a few states that allow it because
it is so clearly at an avenue toward vote fraud
and skull duggaries.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Can we pass any federal laws about but this? I
know our elections. We use federalism on purpose to allow
all kinds of states and counties and everything to do
things their own way. But can we have some sort
of you gotta have the result in within two days
or something.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Let me hit a couple more things real quickly. Democrats
legislative election rules to make it exceptionally easy to register
and vote, with the intent of boosting turnout among young
and low propensity voters who lean left in huge numbers.
But these rules also create openings for fraud and improper voting.
ID is not strictly required to register to vote. You
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absolutely don't have to show them to vote. State lists
a gym card, a drug prescription, even a sample ballot
as acceptable forms of ID.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
A gym card.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Federal prosecutor last month and died into California woman for
paying homeless people on skid road to register using her
former address, meeting ballots would be sent there. She agreed
to plead guilty. There are quite a number of cases
like that.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
The idea of an election being stolen is a horror,
But a bigger horror for me, at least today, is
that so many Democrats in Los Angeles, for instance, are
so married to their party that they can't imagine trying
something else, no matter how many drug addicts you got
camping on the streets.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And even if they watch it literally burn to the ground. Right,
let's not make any changes.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
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