September 10, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Come to Jesus & midterm elections
- Direction of Republican party
- AI will do scary things
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong
and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Moriarty with
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a wow, with a wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's Richie Town, comedian doing an impression.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Of baseball, play-by-play announcers.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You just have to have.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The mannerisms and the tone.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The cadence.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Before we get into important stuff, anybody who keeps track
of this sort of thing in my life, four days now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm at four days. I'm at four days. Oh, boy.
I'll be praying for you. Four. I know. I know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I've taken the recommended amount of Miralax every night. It's
been four days.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Maybe this medicine isn't for you because that's not healthy. No, well,
it's not comfortable either.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, I'm sure. You were okay last week after five.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm like a once-a-week guy now, four times a month.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
What are you, a sloth?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
On the other hand, the 28 years worth of emails
saying Jack is full of crap have absolutely been borne out.
That is indelicate and childlike, and I apologize for it.
Doesn't that seem like a long time, though?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes!
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's excessive. By any standard. It doesn't even seem like
it'd be possible. No, not really. Where's it going? To
your head.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh, the only time I've ever dealt with anything like
that is post-surgery on the opioid painkillers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh, I despise that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I went through it after a C-section. Oh, so bad.
That's just my daily life now. See, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You got to talk to your doctor because I don't
think the Ozempic is helping with that at all.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't know. It causes it. Yeah, it does. It does.
It started with it immediately.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So a bunch of interesting topics I would love to address.
There's so much good content. The threat of AI takeover
is a real, really intriguing think piece, but it's by
a guy with a hyphenated first name. Not last name.
You know, Joe Hopkins Smith or something like that. His
name is John Clark Levin.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What's that? Hyphenated first name. What is it? I don't know.
It's just terrible.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So so we'll ignore that. Also, she let her son
go for a walk. Now she's a convicted criminal.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I've been I've been avoiding this story because I knew
it would make me like actually mad.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's the whole.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Mom is trying to be a free range kid parent.
Let their kid gain experience. Try things. get confidence so
they're not an anxious little veal calf in the world.
But then some busybody will see a child alone and
call the cops. And depending on, you know, which precinct
you live in, you might end up a convicted criminal
like this poor mom. We'll probably get to that eventually,
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but who wants to get angry? We've got The Civil
War Inside the DSA by Audrey Falberg, who's a great
writer for the Free Press. I hope they all kill
each other, certainly. We'll get to that eventually. But I
thought this one was super intriguing because... As I've said
this more than once, I like it when somebody challenges
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my worldview. It doesn't make me mad. It doesn't threaten me.
You're doing me a favor because I get to reassess
my arguments and either tweak them a little bit if
I was wrong or change them completely. I suppose it
doesn't happen often. Or I get to think about them
again and it makes them even stronger. So I like
being challenged on my precepts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Here is a program. It's a nonprofit at this point.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
When guys get out of prison, they get no strings attached,
$ 800 a month for the first either six months or
12 months. They're doing this in Gainesville, Florida. Well, it's
where they're based out of. And they've given a total
of $ 1. 3 million to 172 men and women. And all
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these folks were recently released from prison. And, you know,
there are all sorts of guaranteed income programs that have
been proposed going back centuries, actually.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Interestingly enough. Is it regardless of crime? Ah, yes. Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But what they're doing, obviously, is following this and doing
research on it to show, well, to find out whether
it helps reduce recidivism, stabilizes lives, and saves taxpayer dollars.
This is from a conservative point of view. Worst, most
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expensive thing we can have happen is these guys and gals,
but I'm going to say guys just for convenience from
here on out, is that these guys go back to
crime and break laws, and we have to try them
and stick them back in the hoose cow. That is
the most expensive alternative or most expensive outcome that we
can have. So what would make sense to prevent that?
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About 30% of former prisoners are back within three years
of their release, according to the Council of State Governments.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
What percent?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
30.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Are back within three years? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Not just like arrested or tried or whatever. No, actually
back in prison.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Wow. That's quite a stat. Yeah, yeah. Kevin Scott... is
the guy at the heart of this, okay?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And interestingly, he knows what it's like to be released
from prison without any resources. He spent three and a
half years behind bars in Florida on drug-related charges. He
was freed in 2016 at the age of 41. All
he had was, as they say, his name and the
clothes on his back.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I've always wondered how, like watching Shawshank Redemption, I've always
wondered how anybody makes a goal of it In that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Where would you go? What would you do?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And he had no money at all. And he said
the joy of being free was counterbalanced by the terror
of how am I going to make these probation payments?
Because Florida is one of many states that requires regular
payments from parolees, including a supervision fee.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You did the crime. You're paying for your own supervision.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It really seems like setting a guy up for failure. Yeah. Yeah,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And those fees can range from $ 50 to $ 100 on
top of court fees, fines, maybe restitution. And the total
cost of supervision can easily run into the hundreds of
dollars per month, as was the case for Mr.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And he says, and if you can't make those payments,
the solution will be to reincarcerate you.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You're too poor to be free.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And for most folks, the default experience of coming out
is a feeling of being held down while being told
to get up. And, you know, to make the obvious point,
you're desperate for money and you've known crime before. Doesn't
take very long for your mind to go with, well,
I know I could get some money pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, not to mention you're supposed to go out there
and get a job.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
With a record. Find somebody who wants to hire a criminal.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I skipped over that part. Yeah, it's extra hard for
these guys to get jobs. So he got by, Mr. Scott,
thanks to the kindness of friends. One loaned him a
beat-up car that he used to scour for jobs. Then
after being rejected from various employers because of his criminal record,
two other friends hired him to do prep work in
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the kitchen at their restaurant, and he got by.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But then he.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Decided— I don't know how common that is, but there's
a lot of people. I used to go over into
the prison in Vacaville once a week to talk to
people about alcoholism, some of the drunks, who had blown
up their lives around that. Some of them only came to—
have something to do and get out of their cell
for an hour. Uh, some of them were actually interested,
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but it was pretty clear talking to those dudes that
a lot of them had blown up their lives to
the point that if you, if you let them out, they,
they've got nobody they could call who's.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Going to loan them a car or let them sleep
there or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So, uh, a thousand miles up the Atlantic coast to
other similar programs, uh, had been underway in New York
city and new Haven connect to cut. Um, and, uh,
Teaching about basic income to law students, says this one
tenured law professor at New York University, which I'm generally
highly suspicious of.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
They're communists.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But he said, teaching about basic income to law students
and observing the impact on recipients has, quote, transformed my
intellectual commitment into a personal commitment, so much that he
and his wife, an affordable housing attorney, donate $ 150, 000 for
each pilot that the basic income labs designs. And he's
especially into the deal for prisoners. So, you know, I
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can hear the knee-jerk conservative arguments because I'm a knee-jerk conservative.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Not really.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I like to think of myself as a fairly thoughtful conservative, but.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're not going to reward these guys for doing crimes,
you know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm that person. I hate rewarding anybody for doing it. Uh,
but I am a, what's better for society. What's cheaper
in the long run. I mean, that is conservative. That's
certainly fiscally conservative.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, if, if given a guy $ 800 keeps him
from hitting me in the back of the head and
taking my watch and then, you know, maybe he gets
back on his feet as opposed to, he goes to
jail and it costs way more than $ 800.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
To keep them there.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Cost more than that a day. I'm sure. It just
makes sense financially. It's an intriguing thought anyway.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Now, most basic income programs, my objection to them is
that the sales pitch from really smart economists and libertarians
and true conservatives is this takes the place of all
the social programs.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, that's when Charles Murray, one of the great libertarian
thinkers in America, wrote his book about that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That was the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, this would be cheaper, people. This would actually be cheaper.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
A fraction, a fraction of the cost of all these complex, overlapping,
hard to navigate, easy to defraud programs. But see, that's
the problem. The left will never allow you to negotiate.
dismantle those programs because that's where their power flows from.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So then you have ubi and all the welfare programs
yeah that's that's a that's a no-go right right interesting
well i got another one of these very similar conundrums
that i've been meaning to bring up and it's probably
perfect the day after the midterm convention last night The theory,
if you're not happy with the current Republican Party, doesn't
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have to be about Trump, but you're not happy with
the current Republican Party or the direction it's been going,
would you rather see them just get their ass.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Handed to them here in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So badly that there's like, we got to start over,
we got to rethink this all? Is that the best
thing for you if you're a small government personal freedom
conservative or not? Could discuss that a little bit when
we come back. Maybe another clip of Trump from the
convention last night and other stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
All right, I'd like to start tonight with a land acknowledgement.
This is the greatest land in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And if that bothers you, you....
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Your communist and hippie buddies should get.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The hell off it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Adam Carolla at the midterm convention last night.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Which, all but the Democrats do in four years, even
though on the CNNs and the MSNows, they're mocking it
as a.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Ridiculous idea. It's made up. This is unprecedented. Whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's just an attempt to get an advertisement for the party,
and yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You can rally people so they show up and vote.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You nailed it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You all spend billions of dollars on TV ads and
radio ads and billboards, and this is that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah. You really nailed it there, Jake Tapper, in any sort.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
On the Trump hate and dispatch the other day, I
was listening to their podcast and they have an editorial,
which I think talks about this. They're going with the
theory as they consider themselves more classic, classic liberals and
American conservatives that they don't like the direction the Republican
Party has been going for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And that's even.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
pre-Trump with both with the tremendous debt. Steve Hayes has
always really been big on that. They wrote they wrote
a piece about the 40 trillion dollar debt a couple
weeks ago. Anyway, their theory is the best thing that
could happen for actual conservatives and old school Republicans is
that this current Republican Party just gets wiped out in November.
I mean, you lose like Barack Obama level in his midterms,
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60 some House seats and, you know, however many Senate
seats and you lose it. And that would cause people
to rethink the direction they've gone and maybe get more
serious about. And I.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Just wonder what you thought about that, that theory. A
come-to-Jesus election. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
If you're going to lose, it would be better to
lose big. It's that thing you've been saying for the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Takes one to know one.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I've got the great C.S. Lewis quote in front of me.
It's all about being progressive, which this isn't about being progressive. Well,
it's about working toward your goal, though.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
C.S.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Lewis said progress means getting nearer to the place you
want to be, and if you have taken a wrong turn,
then to go forward does not get you any nearer.
The man who turns back soonest is the most progressive
or productive man. So if you truly believe the party's
going in the wrong direction, yeah, I could see that
idea happening. It's, you know, it's a gamble and you're
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going to have to endure the awfulness of Democrats being
in charge for a while and the damage they do.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So but this I thought this was funny, though. So
I'm listening to a podcast with Jonah Goldberg and Chris Steyer. Well,
yesterday we used to have Chris Steyer on fairly often
talking about politics.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He's a pundit on. Was he on Newsmax now or
News Nation?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He was trying to make the argument, and he does
more— he knows more about polling and all that kind of stuff,
you know, than practically anybody in America.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
He said, you know, what we all don't want to
admit is.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
These elections are decided by the people that are paying
the least attention. We can all discuss this and that
and this strategy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The people that decide most elections when they're close are
the people that, like, saw two minutes of somebody on
the Today Show, if that— Maybe they write an article
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about it if we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
That's the answer to the question I've been asking for
a long time. And you can use the term low-information
voters or dumb people or people busy with their real
lives if you want to be charitable or whatever. I've
always wondered, to what extent is winning elections about those people? like,
low to no information voters.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
In close elections, it's all about those people.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And then what was funny about this in this hour-long podcast,
having said that, then they get back into a discussion
of East Coast Straussianism versus West Coast Straussianism and the conservative.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Blah, blah, blah. Don't get me started. Who is this for?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You just announced the elections are decided by people who
have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, at least wait till the end to say all
of this is irrelevant. Don't say that in advance. It
takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But I think that is true, and.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's a crowd Trump was trying to motivate last night,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Last thing, for the people who say there are so
many benefits that can come out of AI, we can
solve cancer, we can do all of these things, and
the list continues. Where is the risk-reward here in the
short term about what we can do with AI?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
What I'll say is we're on the doorstep of tremendous discoveries.
Like you said, cures to diseases, solving many, many problems
we face could happen very, very soon. The issue is
we're on the doorstep of essentially abundance, but we're rushing
in too quickly. All it takes is a little bit
of moderation. And over the next 10 years, we can
have all of those things. We can just have them
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safely and slowly and in a way that isn't a
sudden exponential change that completely messes everything up.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's a whistleblower guy that quit his job at ChatGPT
and Anthropic saying that these companies are scary and going
to do scary things.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's almost.
Has to be whether biblical or.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Just a philosophical philosophical test for mankind the fact that
you have one thing that could cure all disease or kill.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Us all is just too perfect isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
To have that land and have us having this discussion right.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
There are probably going back through history 50 000 different.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Cautionary tales about a human who gets ultimate power and
how bad an idea that is.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean, that's like, it's maybe the oldest human truism.
I don't know. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And this seems to be something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So, we like Peter Boghossian. We've had him on the
show many times. Love Peter. Brilliant. He's an anti-woke professor.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He eventually quit his job because he just couldn't handle
the whole university setting anymore, which is a different topic,
which I'll get to in a second.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's a very gentle warrior. He's a very wise and
patient fellow. A happy warrior. He tweeted this out on
that story.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
10% chance of death, 90% chance of superabundance seems like
a good bet.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Which, I usually agree with his takes. I don't think
I agree with that one. Yeah, first of all, you'd
have to accept that those numbers are accurate, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Even if you do though well the here's one of
the responses which is just basically what i was thinking
AI is 100% chance of the death of humanity. Your 90%
is just humanity losing all purpose, soul, aspiration, and inspiration.
We will be dependent slaves who devolve into hollowed husks
until we succumb to our own demise.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's the problem. There's too many really smart, driven people.
who are misled into believing that all people are like them,
and that superabundance won't lead to what was just described there.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, yeah, meaninglessness. Yeah, that's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Anyway, kind of switching gears here, but on the topic
of Peter Boghossian, who left the university setting... because it
was so woke and crazy and a lot of the
research was crap and all this different sort of stuff,
came across this professor tweeted out by Peter Boghossian's friend,
James Lindsay, retweeted this from a college professor who.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Just quit and was done.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I spent 30 years in academia. Here are my observations
about students. Toward the end, I was teaching Gen Z students.
These students combined ignorance with strident moral certainty. They seemed
to have no general education at all, lacked the most
basic knowledge of history, even recent history. They were immature
and emotionally fragile. Many could not handle criticism, no matter
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how sugar-coated. It took very little to reduce them to
tears or to send them into a fit of narcissistic rage.
They were shockingly bereft of intellectual curiosity, and many gave
the impression of having no internal life at all.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's interesting. Well, says you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Who'd been teaching for 30 years, so seen lots of
different people of the same age, had seen them change,
and this is where.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It ended up. Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Boy, and the really troubling part of it, and we
all have seen this, is the marrying of the ignorance
with the moral certainty.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, the Anybody who disagrees with me is a
bad person, and anything I do to them is justified.
I mean, I've got, actually, I've got yet another shocking
poll about the number of young Americans in particular who
tolerate political violence, who think that it is justified.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And it's shocking. Well, there's four different parts to this.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
There's that part that you pointed out, their strident moral certainty.
There's the, they seem to have no general education at all.
They lack the most basic knowledge of history, even recent history,
which is its own interesting topic. And then the whole,
they're immature and emotionally fragile. They can't handle criticism of
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any kind. And then the final one, which is its
own book-length topic.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They gave the.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Impression of having no internal life at all, which is
the whole everything is performative thing. through other people and
a reflection upon you of.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Cool pick on your, you know, your trip to whatever
cool locale and your clothes that you posted on Instagram. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's a lot. That is who you are. That's sad. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Should we go back to our discussion of Antonio Gramsci
from yesterday? The guy who said the way Marxism wins
is this first takeover education.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Wrote it in detail, in detail.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And it's been executed beautifully. Yeah, yeah. By God, what
was the line from, oh, brother, where art thou? By God,
we're in a tough spot. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, got
to fight it. What else are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Gets me out of bed in the morning. Just wanted
to bring you all that. Yeah, yeah. Huh. And, you know,
I swear it is not kids these days-ism.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
No. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean, because it.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I read a great piece by a psychologist about why
baby boomers are now getting the clap at horrific rates
and smoking all sorts of pot and that sort of thing.
They internalized the lessons of their youth, which was that
it's all about me and pleasure-seeking and, you know, that's
the highest goal.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're 80 years old. You worked your whole life to
be high with gonorrhea?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You can get a shot for the gonorrhea.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
And I'm sure there are plenty of good, solid criticisms
of Gen X, too.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But I really don't. It's not that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I don't even know why I'm issuing disclaimers. It is
clearly that Gramsci has won to a large extent. And
our educational apparatus is primarily an indoctrination factory. And we've
got to fight like hell against it if we cherish
our country. So there's your homework.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Get started.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Today is the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk being assassinated,
and tomorrow's the 25-year anniversary of.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The 9-11 attack.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And we will be talking about that probably a great
deal tomorrow. It was pointed out the other day that
just statistically, about a third of the country wasn't born then.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
And....
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No matter how hard you try, it's just the way
our brains work. You can't convince somebody who didn't live
through it of what a big deal it was. In
the same way, I'm stealing this from somebody else I
heard yesterday, this whole thought. But in the same way
that when your parents told you about how amazing it
was when JFK got shot, you can kind of, yeah.
But it's not the same as living through it and
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how it plays out in your mind, not knowing what's
going on and then getting answers and all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Because you know the result. Things were okay. But you
didn't know it at the time. And as Pearl Harbor
or whatever age group you're in. Because I've tried to
talk to my kids about it. And it doesn't land
the same way as if you lived through it. And
you were wondering, okay, what's next? For a long time
you were wondering what's next.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah. And the miracle that what's next has been. Fairly insignificant.
I'll tell you what's next. Give an Iraq what's coming
to them.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Okay. Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
That took the wind out of me. Yeah. I don't know.
It's tough to even start talking about this because there's
so many different angles to it. Right. And we will
tomorrow was my point. Islamism will never rest. That's my takeaway.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm reminded by the Charlie Kirk thing that there are
a couple of campuses that are having like one year
celebrations of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Him being murdered. No, they are not. Yes, they are.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And I don't want to get too gloomy and doomy
about that. You know, young people believe political violence is acceptable,
but I'm sorry, I'm very, very drunk. But it fits
right into that incredible moral certainty married with ignorance thing.
I mean, that's not good. And I don't know if
you've hung around young people lately. They're like faster than
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me and can probably hit harder. And if an angry
mob of them comes after me, it's over. So the
fact that they're morons doesn't really matter when they join
together in an angry mob. And you've got this gal.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, I'm sorry. It's too depressing. I'll save it for
another time.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
We need to take a break and we'll do better.
But I did get this text.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Marginally.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I did get this text about my earlier conversation in
all caps.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Your waste is toxic. You don't want it in your body.
You got to detox. That's right. I'm not trying to
keep it in my body. I'm not hoarding it. He's
hoarding it like money.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
My goal is to expunge it. I just haven't had
any luck. It's my point.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I remember reading as a young parent that that's one
aspect of potty training, that some kids in their development,
they see their poop as part of them. And they're
unwilling to, it's disturbing to them to have it come
out and be swept away.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Like it's their toes going in the toilet or something?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's a part of them, in short. And I wonder
if you need some good, serious Freudian therapy. You're holding
on to it because you're afraid.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah. I don't think that's it. We'll finish strong next.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Maybe in the One More Thing podcast I can hear
that Jon Stewart Canada imports thing.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I keep forgetting that that's going on. Our trade war.
With our mortal enemy Canada. Yeah. You know what? I'm sorry.
I had something and I lost it. Well, maybe play
it now if you actually can't find it. Not the
meaning of life.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
It was a joke about your desire to, your threat really,
to learn to play the bagpipes.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, I think it's easy. I think bagpipe players... I'm
sure there are good bagpipe players.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They've been fooling us forever. You show up to, like,
a funeral, or it's St.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Patrick's Day, or whatever it is, and there's one guy
who's got the knee-high socks and a kilt, and he's
playing the bagpipe, and it kind of gives a cool,
you know, atmosphere or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think the difference between... you and him is he
owns a pair of bagpipes and he took 15 minutes
to learn that one song that everybody plays.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That is really impugning the bagpipers of the world. A
couple of efforts at humor here. The first one from
Matt M, a classic. The definition of a gentleman is
a man who can play bagpipes but doesn't. And then
the classic joke often at the expense of banjos, guy
parks his car with his expensive bagpipes in the back,
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and he walks down the street. The story realizes, oh,
my God, I left my car unlocked. So he runs
back to his car too late. Second set of bagpipes.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
For some reason, this has nothing to do with bagpipes,
but it reminded me of this quote I've been trying
to work in from Samuel Johnson, who I'm a giant
fan of.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I love Samuel Johnson.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
He is not only dull himself, he is the cause
of dullness in others. I'm going to remember that for people.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I've gone, you know, we've gone as humanity from that
to F-U-E-F-N-F-R.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know, just insults used to be so much better.
Or stabbing you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Menkine. Shakespeare. Insults used to be Oscar Wilde, all the
great thinkers of history. Man, a good insult is a
thing of beauty. You're effing stupid.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think we can fit this in. Jon Stewart on
the Canada import thingy.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
But with the trade war now here, the news media
has been quick to jump in and explain.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What's at stake. Americans are now facing higher prices.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Some examples, milk, honey, smartphones, liquor, and even wigs and
fake beards.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Beauty.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I'll never let them take you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But hey man, Canada, it's about time you learned a lesson, Canada.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Don't f * * * around and yet still have
to find out for some reason. I heard that report
many places too. Fake mustaches? What? It might affect Halloween.
Now it's personal.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How did Canada become the source of Fake mustaches and beards.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Moose pelts? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
This is going to impact my personal life. Judy really
likes it when I put on a false mustache, and
she calls me Jean-Claude.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And then we, well, it's role-playing anyway. What about Merkins?
A fine Canadian-made Merkin.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Google it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So one thing I'm going to do tomorrow for the
25th anniversary of 9-11 is read some from the very
beginning of the 9-11 commission report in case you've forgotten
how dramatic that day was. They really lay it out
in great detail as they finally gathered all the facts.
I did a little research tomorrow. I wasn't positive about this.
We still don't know where Flight 93 was headed for certain.
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Whether it was going to crash into the Capitol or
the White House. Because various people, we intercepted communication where
they talked about both. We don't know what they were
said on that day, though. And crashing into the Capitol
would have been a really big deal. Because there were
5,000 people in there, including, obviously, a lot of people
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in high positions of power that could have been killed
or horribly wounded.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
School kids? Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Uh, yeah, obviously it just did loss of life period.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
But I mean, as a damage to our government at
a moment when we had all kinds of decisions to make,
that would have been wild.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Final Thoughts with Angie.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah!
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap up the show. What a delightful tradition. Michelangelo,
would you lead us off? What's your final thought?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Toilet sitting alone gathering dust and getting tumbleweeds.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Just one toilet paper roll a year, four times a month.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Jack Armstrong. That's exactly right. Wow, wow. Too, too much.
I can't keep this up.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Do you have a final thought for us, Katie?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
You guys were talking about insults and there was a
particular security guard at a building where we all used
to work together. And I looked at him one day
after he yelled at me and I went, all right,
single forever.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Shut up. Oh, devastating. Jack, a final thought for us.
This is kind of cute. You'll be potty training before
you know it, Katie.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Me? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Your son. That's pretty funny. Near 100% percent. We got
this text.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
When my daughter was potty training, she used to wave
goodbye to Rapu and say, have fun swimming with your friends.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Gross and hilarious.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
My final thought is I haven't decided how I'm going
to spend the Trump $ 5, 000 dividend, but I'm going to
do something for me.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You know, I'm not going to save it. It's going
to be fun money. Get the foldable iPhone. Yeah, that's
what I'm going to do. The one with all the
memory storage. $ 3, 200 for the one with the most memory storage.
That's an expensive phone.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Me, I'm good. Katie Green with the show Joke of
the Day. Joke of the Day. See you tomorrow. God
bless America. Armstrong and Getty. I think the main thing
to playing the bagpipes is owning bagpipes. I think that's
what it is, and I'm going to prove it. Armstrong
and Getty. I'm going to get some bagpipes. I'm going
to learn that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm going to buy a kilt and the socks, and
then I'll do whatever festival is going on where you
need a bagpipe.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Armstrong and Getty. Get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Good luck.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong
and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Moriarty with
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a wow, with a wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's Richie Town, comedian doing an impression.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Of baseball, play-by-play announcers.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You just have to have.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The mannerisms and the tone.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The cadence.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Before we get into important stuff, anybody who keeps track
of this sort of thing in my life, four days now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm at four days. I'm at four days. Oh, boy.
I'll be praying for you. Four. I know. I know.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I've taken the recommended amount of Miralax every night. It's
been four days.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Maybe this medicine isn't for you because that's not healthy. No, well,
it's not comfortable either.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, I'm sure. You were okay last week after five.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm like a once-a-week guy now, four times a month.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
What are you, a sloth?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
On the other hand, the 28 years worth of emails
saying Jack is full of crap have absolutely been borne out.
That is indelicate and childlike, and I apologize for it.
Doesn't that seem like a long time, though?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes!
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's excessive. By any standard. It doesn't even seem like
it'd be possible. No, not really. Where's it going? To
your head.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh, the only time I've ever dealt with anything like
that is post-surgery on the opioid painkillers.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh, I despise that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I went through it after a C-section. Oh, so bad.
That's just my daily life now. See, yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You got to talk to your doctor because I don't
think the Ozempic is helping with that at all.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't know. It causes it. Yeah, it does. It does.
It started with it immediately.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So a bunch of interesting topics I would love to address.
There's so much good content. The threat of AI takeover
is a real, really intriguing think piece, but it's by
a guy with a hyphenated first name. Not last name.
You know, Joe Hopkins Smith or something like that. His
name is John Clark Levin.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
What's that? Hyphenated first name. What is it? I don't know.
It's just terrible.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So so we'll ignore that. Also, she let her son
go for a walk. Now she's a convicted criminal.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I've been I've been avoiding this story because I knew
it would make me like actually mad.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's the whole.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Mom is trying to be a free range kid parent.
Let their kid gain experience. Try things. get confidence so
they're not an anxious little veal calf in the world.
But then some busybody will see a child alone and
call the cops. And depending on, you know, which precinct
you live in, you might end up a convicted criminal
like this poor mom. We'll probably get to that eventually,
(03:42):
but who wants to get angry? We've got The Civil
War Inside the DSA by Audrey Falberg, who's a great
writer for the Free Press. I hope they all kill
each other, certainly. We'll get to that eventually. But I
thought this one was super intriguing because... As I've said
this more than once, I like it when somebody challenges
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my worldview. It doesn't make me mad. It doesn't threaten me.
You're doing me a favor because I get to reassess
my arguments and either tweak them a little bit if
I was wrong or change them completely. I suppose it
doesn't happen often. Or I get to think about them
again and it makes them even stronger. So I like
being challenged on my precepts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Here is a program. It's a nonprofit at this point.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
When guys get out of prison, they get no strings attached,
$ 800 a month for the first either six months or
12 months. They're doing this in Gainesville, Florida. Well, it's
where they're based out of. And they've given a total
of $ 1. 3 million to 172 men and women. And all
(04:59):
these folks were recently released from prison. And, you know,
there are all sorts of guaranteed income programs that have
been proposed going back centuries, actually.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Interestingly enough. Is it regardless of crime? Ah, yes. Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But what they're doing, obviously, is following this and doing
research on it to show, well, to find out whether
it helps reduce recidivism, stabilizes lives, and saves taxpayer dollars.
This is from a conservative point of view. Worst, most
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expensive thing we can have happen is these guys and gals,
but I'm going to say guys just for convenience from
here on out, is that these guys go back to
crime and break laws, and we have to try them
and stick them back in the hoose cow. That is
the most expensive alternative or most expensive outcome that we
can have. So what would make sense to prevent that?
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About 30% of former prisoners are back within three years
of their release, according to the Council of State Governments.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
What percent?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
30.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Are back within three years? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Not just like arrested or tried or whatever. No, actually
back in prison.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Wow. That's quite a stat. Yeah, yeah. Kevin Scott... is
the guy at the heart of this, okay?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And interestingly, he knows what it's like to be released
from prison without any resources. He spent three and a
half years behind bars in Florida on drug-related charges. He
was freed in 2016 at the age of 41. All
he had was, as they say, his name and the
clothes on his back.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I've always wondered how, like watching Shawshank Redemption, I've always
wondered how anybody makes a goal of it In that situation.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Where would you go? What would you do?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And he had no money at all. And he said
the joy of being free was counterbalanced by the terror
of how am I going to make these probation payments?
Because Florida is one of many states that requires regular
payments from parolees, including a supervision fee.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
You did the crime. You're paying for your own supervision.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It really seems like setting a guy up for failure. Yeah. Yeah,
I know what you mean.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And those fees can range from $ 50 to $ 100 on
top of court fees, fines, maybe restitution. And the total
cost of supervision can easily run into the hundreds of
dollars per month, as was the case for Mr.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Scott.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
And he says, and if you can't make those payments,
the solution will be to reincarcerate you.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You're too poor to be free.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And for most folks, the default experience of coming out
is a feeling of being held down while being told
to get up. And, you know, to make the obvious point,
you're desperate for money and you've known crime before. Doesn't
take very long for your mind to go with, well,
I know I could get some money pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, not to mention you're supposed to go out there
and get a job.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
With a record. Find somebody who wants to hire a criminal.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I skipped over that part. Yeah, it's extra hard for
these guys to get jobs. So he got by, Mr. Scott,
thanks to the kindness of friends. One loaned him a
beat-up car that he used to scour for jobs. Then
after being rejected from various employers because of his criminal record,
two other friends hired him to do prep work in
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the kitchen at their restaurant, and he got by.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But then he.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Decided— I don't know how common that is, but there's
a lot of people. I used to go over into
the prison in Vacaville once a week to talk to
people about alcoholism, some of the drunks, who had blown
up their lives around that. Some of them only came to—
have something to do and get out of their cell
for an hour. Uh, some of them were actually interested,
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but it was pretty clear talking to those dudes that
a lot of them had blown up their lives to
the point that if you, if you let them out, they,
they've got nobody they could call who's.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Going to loan them a car or let them sleep
there or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So, uh, a thousand miles up the Atlantic coast to
other similar programs, uh, had been underway in New York
city and new Haven connect to cut. Um, and, uh,
Teaching about basic income to law students, says this one
tenured law professor at New York University, which I'm generally
highly suspicious of.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
They're communists.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
But he said, teaching about basic income to law students
and observing the impact on recipients has, quote, transformed my
intellectual commitment into a personal commitment, so much that he
and his wife, an affordable housing attorney, donate $ 150, 000 for
each pilot that the basic income labs designs. And he's
especially into the deal for prisoners. So, you know, I
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can hear the knee-jerk conservative arguments because I'm a knee-jerk conservative.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Not really.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I like to think of myself as a fairly thoughtful conservative, but.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're not going to reward these guys for doing crimes,
you know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm that person. I hate rewarding anybody for doing it. Uh,
but I am a, what's better for society. What's cheaper
in the long run. I mean, that is conservative. That's
certainly fiscally conservative.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, if, if given a guy $ 800 keeps him
from hitting me in the back of the head and
taking my watch and then, you know, maybe he gets
back on his feet as opposed to, he goes to
jail and it costs way more than $ 800.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
To keep them there.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Cost more than that a day. I'm sure. It just
makes sense financially. It's an intriguing thought anyway.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Now, most basic income programs, my objection to them is
that the sales pitch from really smart economists and libertarians
and true conservatives is this takes the place of all
the social programs.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, that's when Charles Murray, one of the great libertarian
thinkers in America, wrote his book about that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That was the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, this would be cheaper, people. This would actually be cheaper.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
A fraction, a fraction of the cost of all these complex, overlapping,
hard to navigate, easy to defraud programs. But see, that's
the problem. The left will never allow you to negotiate.
dismantle those programs because that's where their power flows from.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So then you have ubi and all the welfare programs
yeah that's that's a that's a no-go right right interesting
well i got another one of these very similar conundrums
that i've been meaning to bring up and it's probably
perfect the day after the midterm convention last night The theory,
if you're not happy with the current Republican Party, doesn't
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have to be about Trump, but you're not happy with
the current Republican Party or the direction it's been going,
would you rather see them just get their ass.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Handed to them here in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So badly that there's like, we got to start over,
we got to rethink this all? Is that the best
thing for you if you're a small government personal freedom
conservative or not? Could discuss that a little bit when
we come back. Maybe another clip of Trump from the
convention last night and other stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
All right, I'd like to start tonight with a land acknowledgement.
This is the greatest land in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And if that bothers you, you....
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Your communist and hippie buddies should get.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The hell off it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Adam Carolla at the midterm convention last night.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Which, all but the Democrats do in four years, even
though on the CNNs and the MSNows, they're mocking it
as a.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Ridiculous idea. It's made up. This is unprecedented. Whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's just an attempt to get an advertisement for the party,
and yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You can rally people so they show up and vote.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You nailed it.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You all spend billions of dollars on TV ads and
radio ads and billboards, and this is that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah. You really nailed it there, Jake Tapper, in any sort.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
On the Trump hate and dispatch the other day, I
was listening to their podcast and they have an editorial,
which I think talks about this. They're going with the
theory as they consider themselves more classic, classic liberals and
American conservatives that they don't like the direction the Republican
Party has been going for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And that's even.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
pre-Trump with both with the tremendous debt. Steve Hayes has
always really been big on that. They wrote they wrote
a piece about the 40 trillion dollar debt a couple
weeks ago. Anyway, their theory is the best thing that
could happen for actual conservatives and old school Republicans is
that this current Republican Party just gets wiped out in November.
I mean, you lose like Barack Obama level in his midterms,
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60 some House seats and, you know, however many Senate
seats and you lose it. And that would cause people
to rethink the direction they've gone and maybe get more
serious about. And I.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Just wonder what you thought about that, that theory. A
come-to-Jesus election. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
If you're going to lose, it would be better to
lose big. It's that thing you've been saying for the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Takes one to know one.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I've got the great C.S. Lewis quote in front of me.
It's all about being progressive, which this isn't about being progressive. Well,
it's about working toward your goal, though.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
C.S.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Lewis said progress means getting nearer to the place you
want to be, and if you have taken a wrong turn,
then to go forward does not get you any nearer.
The man who turns back soonest is the most progressive
or productive man. So if you truly believe the party's
going in the wrong direction, yeah, I could see that
idea happening. It's, you know, it's a gamble and you're
(15:28):
going to have to endure the awfulness of Democrats being
in charge for a while and the damage they do.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So but this I thought this was funny, though. So
I'm listening to a podcast with Jonah Goldberg and Chris Steyer. Well,
yesterday we used to have Chris Steyer on fairly often
talking about politics.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He's a pundit on. Was he on Newsmax now or
News Nation?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He was trying to make the argument, and he does
more— he knows more about polling and all that kind of stuff,
you know, than practically anybody in America.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
He said, you know, what we all don't want to
admit is.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
These elections are decided by the people that are paying
the least attention. We can all discuss this and that
and this strategy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The people that decide most elections when they're close are
the people that, like, saw two minutes of somebody on
the Today Show, if that— Maybe they write an article
(16:21):
about it if we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
That's the answer to the question I've been asking for
a long time. And you can use the term low-information
voters or dumb people or people busy with their real
lives if you want to be charitable or whatever. I've
always wondered, to what extent is winning elections about those people? like,
low to no information voters.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
In close elections, it's all about those people.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And then what was funny about this in this hour-long podcast,
having said that, then they get back into a discussion
of East Coast Straussianism versus West Coast Straussianism and the conservative.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Blah, blah, blah. Don't get me started. Who is this for?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You just announced the elections are decided by people who
have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, at least wait till the end to say all
of this is irrelevant. Don't say that in advance. It
takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But I think that is true, and.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's a crowd Trump was trying to motivate last night,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Last thing, for the people who say there are so
many benefits that can come out of AI, we can
solve cancer, we can do all of these things, and
the list continues. Where is the risk-reward here in the
short term about what we can do with AI?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
What I'll say is we're on the doorstep of tremendous discoveries.
Like you said, cures to diseases, solving many, many problems
we face could happen very, very soon. The issue is
we're on the doorstep of essentially abundance, but we're rushing
in too quickly. All it takes is a little bit
of moderation. And over the next 10 years, we can
have all of those things. We can just have them
(17:53):
safely and slowly and in a way that isn't a
sudden exponential change that completely messes everything up.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It's a whistleblower guy that quit his job at ChatGPT
and Anthropic saying that these companies are scary and going
to do scary things.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's almost.
Has to be whether biblical or.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Just a philosophical philosophical test for mankind the fact that
you have one thing that could cure all disease or kill.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Us all is just too perfect isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
To have that land and have us having this discussion right.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
There are probably going back through history 50 000 different.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Cautionary tales about a human who gets ultimate power and
how bad an idea that is.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean, that's like, it's maybe the oldest human truism.
I don't know. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And this seems to be something like that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So, we like Peter Boghossian. We've had him on the
show many times. Love Peter. Brilliant. He's an anti-woke professor.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He eventually quit his job because he just couldn't handle
the whole university setting anymore, which is a different topic,
which I'll get to in a second.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's a very gentle warrior. He's a very wise and
patient fellow. A happy warrior. He tweeted this out on
that story.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
10% chance of death, 90% chance of superabundance seems like
a good bet.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Which, I usually agree with his takes. I don't think
I agree with that one. Yeah, first of all, you'd
have to accept that those numbers are accurate, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Even if you do though well the here's one of
the responses which is just basically what i was thinking
AI is 100% chance of the death of humanity. Your 90%
is just humanity losing all purpose, soul, aspiration, and inspiration.
We will be dependent slaves who devolve into hollowed husks
until we succumb to our own demise.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's the problem. There's too many really smart, driven people.
who are misled into believing that all people are like them,
and that superabundance won't lead to what was just described there.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, yeah, meaninglessness. Yeah, that's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Anyway, kind of switching gears here, but on the topic
of Peter Boghossian, who left the university setting... because it
was so woke and crazy and a lot of the
research was crap and all this different sort of stuff,
came across this professor tweeted out by Peter Boghossian's friend,
James Lindsay, retweeted this from a college professor who.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Just quit and was done.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I spent 30 years in academia. Here are my observations
about students. Toward the end, I was teaching Gen Z students.
These students combined ignorance with strident moral certainty. They seemed
to have no general education at all, lacked the most
basic knowledge of history, even recent history. They were immature
and emotionally fragile. Many could not handle criticism, no matter
(21:23):
how sugar-coated. It took very little to reduce them to
tears or to send them into a fit of narcissistic rage.
They were shockingly bereft of intellectual curiosity, and many gave
the impression of having no internal life at all.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's interesting. Well, says you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Who'd been teaching for 30 years, so seen lots of
different people of the same age, had seen them change,
and this is where.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It ended up. Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Boy, and the really troubling part of it, and we
all have seen this, is the marrying of the ignorance
with the moral certainty.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, the Anybody who disagrees with me is a
bad person, and anything I do to them is justified.
I mean, I've got, actually, I've got yet another shocking
poll about the number of young Americans in particular who
tolerate political violence, who think that it is justified.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And it's shocking. Well, there's four different parts to this.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
There's that part that you pointed out, their strident moral certainty.
There's the, they seem to have no general education at all.
They lack the most basic knowledge of history, even recent history,
which is its own interesting topic. And then the whole,
they're immature and emotionally fragile. They can't handle criticism of
(22:51):
any kind. And then the final one, which is its
own book-length topic.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They gave the.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Impression of having no internal life at all, which is
the whole everything is performative thing. through other people and
a reflection upon you of.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Cool pick on your, you know, your trip to whatever
cool locale and your clothes that you posted on Instagram. Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's a lot. That is who you are. That's sad. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Should we go back to our discussion of Antonio Gramsci
from yesterday? The guy who said the way Marxism wins
is this first takeover education.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Wrote it in detail, in detail.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And it's been executed beautifully. Yeah, yeah. By God, what
was the line from, oh, brother, where art thou? By God,
we're in a tough spot. Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, got
to fight it. What else are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Gets me out of bed in the morning. Just wanted
to bring you all that. Yeah, yeah. Huh. And, you know,
I swear it is not kids these days-ism.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
No. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean, because it.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I read a great piece by a psychologist about why
baby boomers are now getting the clap at horrific rates
and smoking all sorts of pot and that sort of thing.
They internalized the lessons of their youth, which was that
it's all about me and pleasure-seeking and, you know, that's
the highest goal.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're 80 years old. You worked your whole life to
be high with gonorrhea?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You can get a shot for the gonorrhea.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
And I'm sure there are plenty of good, solid criticisms
of Gen X, too.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But I really don't. It's not that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I don't even know why I'm issuing disclaimers. It is
clearly that Gramsci has won to a large extent. And
our educational apparatus is primarily an indoctrination factory. And we've
got to fight like hell against it if we cherish
our country. So there's your homework.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Get started.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Today is the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk being assassinated,
and tomorrow's the 25-year anniversary of.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
The 9-11 attack.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And we will be talking about that probably a great
deal tomorrow. It was pointed out the other day that
just statistically, about a third of the country wasn't born then.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
And....
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No matter how hard you try, it's just the way
our brains work. You can't convince somebody who didn't live
through it of what a big deal it was. In
the same way, I'm stealing this from somebody else I
heard yesterday, this whole thought. But in the same way
that when your parents told you about how amazing it
was when JFK got shot, you can kind of, yeah.
But it's not the same as living through it and
(25:56):
how it plays out in your mind, not knowing what's
going on and then getting answers and all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's impossible.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Because you know the result. Things were okay. But you
didn't know it at the time. And as Pearl Harbor
or whatever age group you're in. Because I've tried to
talk to my kids about it. And it doesn't land
the same way as if you lived through it. And
you were wondering, okay, what's next? For a long time
you were wondering what's next.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah. And the miracle that what's next has been. Fairly insignificant.
I'll tell you what's next. Give an Iraq what's coming
to them.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Okay. Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
That took the wind out of me. Yeah. I don't know.
It's tough to even start talking about this because there's
so many different angles to it. Right. And we will
tomorrow was my point. Islamism will never rest. That's my takeaway.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm reminded by the Charlie Kirk thing that there are
a couple of campuses that are having like one year
celebrations of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Him being murdered. No, they are not. Yes, they are.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
And I don't want to get too gloomy and doomy
about that. You know, young people believe political violence is acceptable,
but I'm sorry, I'm very, very drunk. But it fits
right into that incredible moral certainty married with ignorance thing.
I mean, that's not good. And I don't know if
you've hung around young people lately. They're like faster than
(27:25):
me and can probably hit harder. And if an angry
mob of them comes after me, it's over. So the
fact that they're morons doesn't really matter when they join
together in an angry mob. And you've got this gal.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, I'm sorry. It's too depressing. I'll save it for
another time.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
We need to take a break and we'll do better.
But I did get this text.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Marginally.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I did get this text about my earlier conversation in
all caps.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Your waste is toxic. You don't want it in your body.
You got to detox. That's right. I'm not trying to
keep it in my body. I'm not hoarding it. He's
hoarding it like money.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
My goal is to expunge it. I just haven't had
any luck. It's my point.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I remember reading as a young parent that that's one
aspect of potty training, that some kids in their development,
they see their poop as part of them. And they're
unwilling to, it's disturbing to them to have it come
out and be swept away.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Like it's their toes going in the toilet or something?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's a part of them, in short. And I wonder
if you need some good, serious Freudian therapy. You're holding
on to it because you're afraid.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah. I don't think that's it. We'll finish strong next.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Maybe in the One More Thing podcast I can hear
that Jon Stewart Canada imports thing.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I keep forgetting that that's going on. Our trade war.
With our mortal enemy Canada. Yeah. You know what? I'm sorry.
I had something and I lost it. Well, maybe play
it now if you actually can't find it. Not the
meaning of life.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
It was a joke about your desire to, your threat really,
to learn to play the bagpipes.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, I think it's easy. I think bagpipe players... I'm
sure there are good bagpipe players.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They've been fooling us forever. You show up to, like,
a funeral, or it's St.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Patrick's Day, or whatever it is, and there's one guy
who's got the knee-high socks and a kilt, and he's
playing the bagpipe, and it kind of gives a cool,
you know, atmosphere or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think the difference between... you and him is he
owns a pair of bagpipes and he took 15 minutes
to learn that one song that everybody plays.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That is really impugning the bagpipers of the world. A
couple of efforts at humor here. The first one from
Matt M, a classic. The definition of a gentleman is
a man who can play bagpipes but doesn't. And then
the classic joke often at the expense of banjos, guy
parks his car with his expensive bagpipes in the back,
(30:08):
and he walks down the street. The story realizes, oh,
my God, I left my car unlocked. So he runs
back to his car too late. Second set of bagpipes.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
For some reason, this has nothing to do with bagpipes,
but it reminded me of this quote I've been trying
to work in from Samuel Johnson, who I'm a giant
fan of.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I love Samuel Johnson.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
He is not only dull himself, he is the cause
of dullness in others. I'm going to remember that for people.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I've gone, you know, we've gone as humanity from that
to F-U-E-F-N-F-R.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know, just insults used to be so much better.
Or stabbing you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Menkine. Shakespeare. Insults used to be Oscar Wilde, all the
great thinkers of history. Man, a good insult is a
thing of beauty. You're effing stupid.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think we can fit this in. Jon Stewart on
the Canada import thingy.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
But with the trade war now here, the news media
has been quick to jump in and explain.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
What's at stake. Americans are now facing higher prices.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Some examples, milk, honey, smartphones, liquor, and even wigs and
fake beards.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Beauty.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I'll never let them take you.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But hey man, Canada, it's about time you learned a lesson, Canada.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Don't f * * * around and yet still have
to find out for some reason. I heard that report
many places too. Fake mustaches? What? It might affect Halloween.
Now it's personal.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How did Canada become the source of Fake mustaches and beards.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Moose pelts? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
This is going to impact my personal life. Judy really
likes it when I put on a false mustache, and
she calls me Jean-Claude.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And then we, well, it's role-playing anyway. What about Merkins?
A fine Canadian-made Merkin.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Google it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So one thing I'm going to do tomorrow for the
25th anniversary of 9-11 is read some from the very
beginning of the 9-11 commission report in case you've forgotten
how dramatic that day was. They really lay it out
in great detail as they finally gathered all the facts.
I did a little research tomorrow. I wasn't positive about this.
We still don't know where Flight 93 was headed for certain.
(33:08):
Whether it was going to crash into the Capitol or
the White House. Because various people, we intercepted communication where
they talked about both. We don't know what they were
said on that day, though. And crashing into the Capitol
would have been a really big deal. Because there were
5,000 people in there, including, obviously, a lot of people
(33:32):
in high positions of power that could have been killed
or horribly wounded.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
School kids? Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Uh, yeah, obviously it just did loss of life period.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
But I mean, as a damage to our government at
a moment when we had all kinds of decisions to make,
that would have been wild.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Final Thoughts with Angie.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah!
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap up the show. What a delightful tradition. Michelangelo,
would you lead us off? What's your final thought?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Toilet sitting alone gathering dust and getting tumbleweeds.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Just one toilet paper roll a year, four times a month.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Jack Armstrong. That's exactly right. Wow, wow. Too, too much.
I can't keep this up.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Do you have a final thought for us, Katie?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I do.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
You guys were talking about insults and there was a
particular security guard at a building where we all used
to work together. And I looked at him one day
after he yelled at me and I went, all right,
single forever.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Shut up. Oh, devastating. Jack, a final thought for us.
This is kind of cute. You'll be potty training before
you know it, Katie.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Me? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Your son. That's pretty funny. Near 100% percent. We got
this text.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
When my daughter was potty training, she used to wave
goodbye to Rapu and say, have fun swimming with your friends.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Gross and hilarious.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
My final thought is I haven't decided how I'm going
to spend the Trump $ 5, 000 dividend, but I'm going to
do something for me.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You know, I'm not going to save it. It's going
to be fun money. Get the foldable iPhone. Yeah, that's
what I'm going to do. The one with all the
memory storage. $ 3, 200 for the one with the most memory storage.
That's an expensive phone.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
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Speaker 1 (35:48):
Me, I'm good. Katie Green with the show Joke of
the Day. Joke of the Day. See you tomorrow. God
bless America. Armstrong and Getty. I think the main thing
to playing the bagpipes is owning bagpipes. I think that's
what it is, and I'm going to prove it. Armstrong
and Getty. I'm going to get some bagpipes. I'm going
to learn that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm going to buy a kilt and the socks, and
then I'll do whatever festival is going on where you
need a bagpipe.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Armstrong and Getty. Get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Good luck.
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