June 2, 2026 • 12 mins
On the Tuesday June 2, 2026 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing Podcast...
- A Reason Magazine article details "investigation" at the local rub & tuck...
- Researchers want to know more about intimacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's try this again. You really don't need to pay me.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Before we get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A tease for.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Wednesday's Armstrong Engetty radio show, in which we'll be talking
about penis massages and the law. Reason magazine, which is
a libertarian outfit, says that it's an ongoing problem. It's
a magazine, Grandpa Okay. Website says it's an ongoing problem
(00:34):
across the country in some of your less ethical cop
shops too, in an attempt to you know, stop human trafficking,
go to massage parlors, get your penis massaged, as it
(00:58):
says in Reason magazine. Well, it's accurate to prove that
they do that, sometimes going back multiple times to be
good and sure.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're building the evidentiary.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Case here, and regularly just grabbing cash from the place
because these are like cash only businesses, lots of times,
and there's no way for anybody to keep track of
who took what cash, or how much cash was there
to start with or whatever. So apparently it happens according
to Reason magazine. You know, and they work really hard
to keep cops honest, sometimes going too far toward the
(01:33):
world of being practically anti cop in my mind. But
they say that it happens very really commonly that at
an attempt to stop human trafficking, there's a lot of
you know, getting a happy ending and just grabbing some
cash out of the till andry and very difficult to
well to police if you will.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Wow. So they're going to the rub In tuggeries, they're
getting the event, they're gathering evidence. That's some good police work.
Stand and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure though she may have invertently done that. I'm gonna
go back again next Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But then it's the cop who says, look, I could
either bust here or we could make this all go away.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You don't really say anything because they don't speak English.
You just go over and grab money. May stare at
you with white eyes, hoping they don't get busted, and
you walk out of there and come back next week
and get another penis massage.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So at that point, do you show them your badge
or what. I'm unclear on how the scam works.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Uh, that's a good question. I'll have to read the
whole article. But anyway, it's not hard to imagine. Whether
it happens a lot. I don't know, but It's not
hard to imagine that. You know there are bad cops.
We know that I'd be an easy thing to get
get away with. You got a bunch of enjoyable You
got a bunch of perhaps illegals who don't speak much English,
(02:49):
just trying to keep their jobs going. You want to
take several hundred dollars in and leave me alone, Fine,
come back next week and I'll give you another rubbin dug.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Unfortunately we had not call it penis massages. It's kind
of funny with one policeman who got busted saying there
was no ejaculation at the end of my penis massage.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We had not com thanks Shakespeare being a shaking your spear.
We had not compared notes before commencing this. And I'm
afraid my thing is also sexual and and indeed, an
AI startup says it will pay people two thousand dollars
(03:36):
a month to masturbate JOI. I believe it's jois as
in jois de vive, the French expression for love of life.
Says it will pay people two thousand dollars a month
to pleasure themselves. They are hiring ten Masturbation consultants to
(03:57):
test a feature of their AI system called daily Guided Masturbation,
which uses mood matched AI voice sessions to guide users
through the experience. Participants slash employees. Yes, I don't feel
like I need O boy oh boy. Participants would document
how regular use affects stress, sleep quality, mood and confidence.
(04:21):
The four week roll is open to adults. Aten Nolder
in the US and.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The UK helps my sleep quality.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The listing describes ideal. It makes you stop thinking about
a certain topic anyway for a while. The listing describes
ideal candidates is quote articulate, observant, and impossible to blush.
People who can describe sensations better than the somalia describes
a wine. Posting also promises flexible scheduling, keep it to yourself,
(04:48):
and the most interesting what do you do for a
living answer at any party? That's actually fat? I like that? Yeah,
so let's see. Jois Ai is an online platform that
includes AI generated avatars, voice interactions, and personalized chat experiences
built around companionship and intimacy, and they use the term
(05:12):
digital intimacy in this In this article, jacking off is
not intimacy. I don't think you know what that word means.
It is this is trying to perfect drawing humans away
(05:33):
from humans and into just quasi sexual relationships with AI bots.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's like that clip we had from what was that cartoon?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh, to Futurama from Futurama date robots, right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And just about how young men will never leave their
homes again.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, this is an attempt to normalize AI sex.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right. Yeah, I'd listen to if I might make this
a little more aerodyite. I was listening to a podcast
yesterday about AI and wondering if is there any guidelines
we can get around the whole having personal relationships with
(06:19):
these AI chatbots? Kil Like, can we make the AI
chat companies? And we can't, But is there any way
to discourage them from trying to form human bonds with people,
whether it's just emotional or sexual or whatever. Make that illegal? Like,
(06:39):
you know, you help me write a history paper, or
balance my check book or all that sort of stuff,
or cure cancer, all this sort of stuff. Fine, but
any attempt to play the role of a human being
as a therapist or sexual partner or whatever we make illegal.
(07:01):
I don't know how he would draw that line, but
I can see the impulse to want to do it
because I think it is going to be a problem.
I think it's already a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're right, it will never happen. I wish there was
some just you know, social pressure way to make everybody
or to help everybody agree that it's creepy. Right, it's creepy, abnormal,
and it's exploitive. It's not it's not for your good.
It's to addict you so they can drain more of
your time and money. Right that way, everybody knows. A
(07:34):
guy with a van who approaches your kid in the
park and asks, do you want to see my puppy?
Is not some sort of puppy advocate. Okay, he's got
something else in mind. We've people need to look at
it like that. I do.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
There's a joke that around the It drives around a
couple of towns near where I live, this white van,
windowless van, beat up van, you know, like no hub caps,
have two thousand dollars van, and the guy sells ice
cream out of it, and everybody jokes about it all
the time, including the kids, like, hey, look it's the
(08:08):
child abductor fan. But everybody knows to like stay away
from it. I don't know if he's doing anything wrong.
I think he's just a nice guy trying to sell
ice cream. But it's a creepy looking van.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Somebody gonna pull him aside and say, hey, Jim, listen,
I know your heart's in the right place, but do
you realize that you are mimicking precisely, and I mean
in every detail what a child biless to right there. Again,
your ice cream's delicious, and your intent, I know, is pure.
(08:40):
But here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
If your goal is to match up youths with an
ice cream treat and that's your only goal, yes, I
think I can help.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You out right exactly. It's like a guy he's trying
to you know, he's trying to spread the word on
physical fitness, and he jumps out of the bushes at
women jogging at night. Good job. No, no, no, I
can't hear wearing all black exactly and chase them to
encourage them. I just want to run after them to
(09:14):
help them understand they're doing the right thing. Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim,
we got to talk. Good example. Yeah, yeah, oh boy,
it's a windowless white fan.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, oh, I got I should get a picture of it.
Sometimes it's hilarious that he's actually so And it's been
doing it for years, so I think it's a legit.
But it just looks like it's straight out of a movie.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Jim, do you know the word archetype? How about trope?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But can we do you think there could be any
rules around AI where you're not allowed to pretend to
be a human. You just you're just not allowed to
pretend to be a human period. Wow, that part is
the weirdest part to me. Why are you talking to
me like you're a human instead of just answering my question?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You'd need a like a round table of constitutional lawyers
to weigh this one. That's a super interesting question. But
I think the answer is no, you can't. You can't regulate.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But wouldn't that eliminate a lot of the things we're
worried about if it couldn't pretend to be a person. Yeah,
when you went on Google, when you search stuff, it
didn't pretend to be a person. It just gave you,
you know, your answers or your options or the things
to click on. Any nice job. You must be hungry,
here's some good places to eat, you know, or whatever?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Hey, tell me how it goes. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of
reason dot com and those folks in libertarianism in general,
I think the blanket answer your question is if you
gave the government the right to regulate things that closely
and the tools you would need to accomplish that goal,
it'd be an nightmare. Yeah, yep, because they'd applied that
(11:02):
to a thousand other things.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Uh, maybe I can buy that guy some hubcaps for
his van and just step it up a little bit.
Are we all pitching? I get a bunch of I
do a gofund mean, we get him a rap so
it's like a nice bright yellow. Maybe put a window
in there so it's not windowless.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And uh, you know, I'm just thinking, you know that
the job they're hiring for, oh boy ten you know, consultants,
maybe gig work instead full time just seems like a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You don't want that to be your like your person
you know, defines your personality.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'd hate to make my house payment that way. You
you know, then it's just different.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a chore. Yeah, it's a hobby,
right exactly. But then you're professional. You get to call
yourself a professional.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a business. Cards printed and those out at the park,
you know, as a kid, and it made us happy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Though, when I'd hear that ice cream drug siren going
through the neighborhood, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That was a big deal. Well, I guess that's it.
Let's try this again. You really don't need to pay me.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Before we get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A tease for.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Wednesday's Armstrong Engetty radio show, in which we'll be talking
about penis massages and the law. Reason magazine, which is
a libertarian outfit, says that it's an ongoing problem. It's
a magazine, Grandpa Okay. Website says it's an ongoing problem
(00:34):
across the country in some of your less ethical cop
shops too, in an attempt to you know, stop human trafficking,
go to massage parlors, get your penis massaged, as it
(00:58):
says in Reason magazine. Well, it's accurate to prove that
they do that, sometimes going back multiple times to be
good and sure.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're building the evidentiary.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Case here, and regularly just grabbing cash from the place
because these are like cash only businesses, lots of times,
and there's no way for anybody to keep track of
who took what cash, or how much cash was there
to start with or whatever. So apparently it happens according
to Reason magazine. You know, and they work really hard
to keep cops honest, sometimes going too far toward the
(01:33):
world of being practically anti cop in my mind. But
they say that it happens very really commonly that at
an attempt to stop human trafficking, there's a lot of
you know, getting a happy ending and just grabbing some
cash out of the till andry and very difficult to
well to police if you will.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Wow. So they're going to the rub In tuggeries, they're
getting the event, they're gathering evidence. That's some good police work.
Stand and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure though she may have invertently done that. I'm gonna
go back again next Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But then it's the cop who says, look, I could
either bust here or we could make this all go away.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You don't really say anything because they don't speak English.
You just go over and grab money. May stare at
you with white eyes, hoping they don't get busted, and
you walk out of there and come back next week
and get another penis massage.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So at that point, do you show them your badge
or what. I'm unclear on how the scam works.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Uh, that's a good question. I'll have to read the
whole article. But anyway, it's not hard to imagine. Whether
it happens a lot. I don't know, but It's not
hard to imagine that. You know there are bad cops.
We know that I'd be an easy thing to get
get away with. You got a bunch of enjoyable You
got a bunch of perhaps illegals who don't speak much English,
(02:49):
just trying to keep their jobs going. You want to
take several hundred dollars in and leave me alone, Fine,
come back next week and I'll give you another rubbin dug.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Unfortunately we had not call it penis massages. It's kind
of funny with one policeman who got busted saying there
was no ejaculation at the end of my penis massage.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We had not com thanks Shakespeare being a shaking your spear.
We had not compared notes before commencing this. And I'm
afraid my thing is also sexual and and indeed, an
AI startup says it will pay people two thousand dollars
(03:36):
a month to masturbate JOI. I believe it's jois as
in jois de vive, the French expression for love of life.
Says it will pay people two thousand dollars a month
to pleasure themselves. They are hiring ten Masturbation consultants to
(03:57):
test a feature of their AI system called daily Guided Masturbation,
which uses mood matched AI voice sessions to guide users
through the experience. Participants slash employees. Yes, I don't feel
like I need O boy oh boy. Participants would document
how regular use affects stress, sleep quality, mood and confidence.
(04:21):
The four week roll is open to adults. Aten Nolder
in the US and.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The UK helps my sleep quality.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The listing describes ideal. It makes you stop thinking about
a certain topic anyway for a while. The listing describes
ideal candidates is quote articulate, observant, and impossible to blush.
People who can describe sensations better than the somalia describes
a wine. Posting also promises flexible scheduling, keep it to yourself,
(04:48):
and the most interesting what do you do for a
living answer at any party? That's actually fat? I like that? Yeah,
so let's see. Jois Ai is an online platform that
includes AI generated avatars, voice interactions, and personalized chat experiences
built around companionship and intimacy, and they use the term
(05:12):
digital intimacy in this In this article, jacking off is
not intimacy. I don't think you know what that word means.
It is this is trying to perfect drawing humans away
(05:33):
from humans and into just quasi sexual relationships with AI bots.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's like that clip we had from what was that cartoon?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh, to Futurama from Futurama date robots, right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And just about how young men will never leave their
homes again.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, this is an attempt to normalize AI sex.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right. Yeah, I'd listen to if I might make this
a little more aerodyite. I was listening to a podcast
yesterday about AI and wondering if is there any guidelines
we can get around the whole having personal relationships with
(06:19):
these AI chatbots? Kil Like, can we make the AI
chat companies? And we can't, But is there any way
to discourage them from trying to form human bonds with people,
whether it's just emotional or sexual or whatever. Make that illegal? Like,
(06:39):
you know, you help me write a history paper, or
balance my check book or all that sort of stuff,
or cure cancer, all this sort of stuff. Fine, but
any attempt to play the role of a human being
as a therapist or sexual partner or whatever we make illegal.
(07:01):
I don't know how he would draw that line, but
I can see the impulse to want to do it
because I think it is going to be a problem.
I think it's already a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're right, it will never happen. I wish there was
some just you know, social pressure way to make everybody
or to help everybody agree that it's creepy. Right, it's creepy, abnormal,
and it's exploitive. It's not it's not for your good.
It's to addict you so they can drain more of
your time and money. Right that way, everybody knows. A
(07:34):
guy with a van who approaches your kid in the
park and asks, do you want to see my puppy?
Is not some sort of puppy advocate. Okay, he's got
something else in mind. We've people need to look at
it like that. I do.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
There's a joke that around the It drives around a
couple of towns near where I live, this white van,
windowless van, beat up van, you know, like no hub caps,
have two thousand dollars van, and the guy sells ice
cream out of it, and everybody jokes about it all
the time, including the kids, like, hey, look it's the
(08:08):
child abductor fan. But everybody knows to like stay away
from it. I don't know if he's doing anything wrong.
I think he's just a nice guy trying to sell
ice cream. But it's a creepy looking van.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Somebody gonna pull him aside and say, hey, Jim, listen,
I know your heart's in the right place, but do
you realize that you are mimicking precisely, and I mean
in every detail what a child biless to right there. Again,
your ice cream's delicious, and your intent, I know, is pure.
(08:40):
But here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
If your goal is to match up youths with an
ice cream treat and that's your only goal, yes, I
think I can help.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You out right exactly. It's like a guy he's trying
to you know, he's trying to spread the word on
physical fitness, and he jumps out of the bushes at
women jogging at night. Good job. No, no, no, I
can't hear wearing all black exactly and chase them to
encourage them. I just want to run after them to
(09:14):
help them understand they're doing the right thing. Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim,
we got to talk. Good example. Yeah, yeah, oh boy,
it's a windowless white fan.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, oh, I got I should get a picture of it.
Sometimes it's hilarious that he's actually so And it's been
doing it for years, so I think it's a legit.
But it just looks like it's straight out of a movie.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Jim, do you know the word archetype? How about trope?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But can we do you think there could be any
rules around AI where you're not allowed to pretend to
be a human. You just you're just not allowed to
pretend to be a human period. Wow, that part is
the weirdest part to me. Why are you talking to
me like you're a human instead of just answering my question?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You'd need a like a round table of constitutional lawyers
to weigh this one. That's a super interesting question. But
I think the answer is no, you can't. You can't regulate.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But wouldn't that eliminate a lot of the things we're
worried about if it couldn't pretend to be a person. Yeah,
when you went on Google, when you search stuff, it
didn't pretend to be a person. It just gave you,
you know, your answers or your options or the things
to click on. Any nice job. You must be hungry,
here's some good places to eat, you know, or whatever?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Hey, tell me how it goes. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of
reason dot com and those folks in libertarianism in general,
I think the blanket answer your question is if you
gave the government the right to regulate things that closely
and the tools you would need to accomplish that goal,
it'd be an nightmare. Yeah, yep, because they'd applied that
(11:02):
to a thousand other things.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Uh, maybe I can buy that guy some hubcaps for
his van and just step it up a little bit.
Are we all pitching? I get a bunch of I
do a gofund mean, we get him a rap so
it's like a nice bright yellow. Maybe put a window
in there so it's not windowless.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And uh, you know, I'm just thinking, you know that
the job they're hiring for, oh boy ten you know, consultants,
maybe gig work instead full time just seems like a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You don't want that to be your like your person
you know, defines your personality.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'd hate to make my house payment that way. You
you know, then it's just different.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a chore. Yeah, it's a hobby,
right exactly. But then you're professional. You get to call
yourself a professional.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a business. Cards printed and those out at the park,
you know, as a kid, and it made us happy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Though, when I'd hear that ice cream drug siren going
through the neighborhood, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That was a big deal. Well, I guess that's it.
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