June 18, 2026 • 10 mins
Joe & MichaelAngelo attempt to help Jack overcome his fear of cooking.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Does the meat need to be submerged? It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Wow, what I have finally, after the suggestion coming to
me from friends, family, co workers and listeners for years
as a single parent trying to figure out how to
feed my kids, as a guy who can't cook, I.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Have finally.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Finally opened up the box, gotten out the crock pot
and put something. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How long was it? Just stating?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just stating in it?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean it's been a decade, right, I've had a few.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think I got one for when I got married. Well,
now we use that one, so I huh, they gave
it to you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That one.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We used a lot, a lot. I washed that thing
a million times, which is fine. Stuffing a crock pot's good.
I can't believe I'm just getting around to it. And
I'll tell you what chat GPT is usual. Chatbots helping
a lot. It had all the most Like I said,
I want, I want to have roast beef like my
mom made it. I'm just picturing a plate of roast
beef with ketchup on it that you know, just falls
(01:18):
apart under your fork. Roast beef with the potatoes. It's
so good. And it told me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
How to pip on roast beef.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh no, that's so good. Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Anyway, according to chat GPT, that's a common beginner's mistake
thinking that the the meat needs to be submerged because
the amount of broth that I put in there, the
meat's sticking out over the top of it. And it said, no, no, no,
if you haven't completely covered, it'll ruin it. But that's
a common beginner mistake. I said, how about the potatoes.
They're not submerged either. No, that's perfectly fine. It cooks
(01:54):
an a combination of the liquid and the steam and
the heat and everything in there for eight to ten hours.
So anyway, one thought that I was having and if
if this turns out even close to the stuff that
the way my mom made it, which was probably if
I asked her, she'd probably say, yeah, that's something I
threw together on busy days because it was so dang
(02:14):
easy and it takes no you know, skiller time. But
it's so delicious. I can't believe I'm just getting around
to trying it now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are we talking like a pot roast? Yeah? Pot roast, yeah, corn, carrots.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And potatoes that I threw in there. And you know
onion soup mix on top, and it's going to come
out delicious.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah. See to me, the only sauce needed is the sauce, yea,
the broth. The fixen's there? What do you call it?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The juice? Yes, Michael, you gotta try a pork line.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Pork lines are great in crackpots.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm gonna try all kinds of things if this works out.
Can I just throw a fish in her like it's
head on and its tail and everything you could. I
was thinking about the.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You can throw a dead cat there if you wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh, tender was right off the tail.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You gotta slow cook it.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Huh ah, This mouser is tender.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What's your like among your favorite things that your mom
used to make? Because I'm thinking about I'm trying to
do a better job of cook for my kids. And
roast roast beef and the crock pots one of the
things my mom would make that was so good.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know you and I agree on this. I gotta
go right to the meat loaf. I have never understood
jokes about meat loaf. Maybe it was my mom made
really good meat loaf, and my wife makes really good
meat loaf.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, my god, that's it. One of the top items
in the food pyramid. To me, it's delicious.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
How much talent involved in a meat loaf? Because I
was thinking about, like some of the stuff I love,
I just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Got to make sure it's not dried out.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I loved my mom's fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy.
But I'm not gonna be able to make that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I just I'm just taught m.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Meat loaf. Possibly, yes, Michael.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
See the beautiful thing about meat loaf before Michael steps up,
is that, uh, it's fabulous for dinner and Little Worcester
shear sauce and yeah, I indulgent a little ketchup in
that hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You're right guilty.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But then the next day it's even freaking better on
a sandwich, a meat loaf sandwich. I'm drooling like a
dog over here just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Michael, That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's better the next day I caught that sick.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh what did your mom make that you really liked? Michael,
Lasagna really good? That requires talent. Also, I have no talent.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh no, no, it's there's not much to it. You
just it's layers it's just layers. You gotta cook the noodles, but.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Don't say noodles. You're finally. Italians don't like the word noodles.
Noodles is a pasta.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Gotta I cooked the pasta. That's right for the gabba.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I've said this on the air many, many times. My
biggest failing, absolutely as a single parent, has been the
providing meals for my kids. I just I've never cooked.
I don't like it. I know a lot of people
really love it. I hate it, and I've never done it.
So i'm and I'm unwilling to learn.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Would you got to have a living cooking maid like
Alice from the Brady Bunch?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I should have.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I did have an all pair for a summer and
a sitter who needed someplace to live, and I had
an empty bedroom, so I said, live here and I
won't charge you to sit. So that was my all pair.
But she is from a foreign land and her food
smelled horrible, so I never asked her to cook.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Wow, Wow, what foreign land, you will want to say.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Don't I wouldn't ask her to park my car?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh? Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wow that's leaves several choices, but close enough. Ah, yeah, yeah,
I liked it the homes of folks from other cultures
and immediately been overwhelmed by the cooking smells and not
in a good way either, Right, Yeah, and I would
probably enjoy but it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Open the windows. It smells horrible. We need to call
a plumber. Something has gone wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, somebody did put a cat in a crocknot.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A smell run here.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but I would like to recreate some of the
stuff that I really really enjoyed as a kid, and
definitely the crock pot meals. I can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'll tell you what you I don't know. You know
how cooperative your your older boy is these days.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But lasagna, if the three of you divide it up,
you know you're the head of the pasta committee. You're
dealing with the sauce, which frankly.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Can be pouring it out of a jar. And that's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Jar sauce is so much better than it used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah yeah, and then somebody browns the meat or whatever.
You can go sasage, you can go ground beef, you
can go vegetarian if you know you got limp, wrists
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Many choices and that's genies. You gotta have the ricata.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Speaking of my older son, last night, he came home.
He's out with some of his friends, and he came
home and there was a car out front and I said,
who's that and he said, oh, it's He named his
two friends. He said, we're gonna go do some stuff.
And they were laughing in there at the music playing,
and I was thinking, oh my god, this is the
(07:38):
summer between his sophomore and junior year or high school.
Three guys headed out into the night. Does it get
any better than that?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh? Not in my recollection. I don't know what they.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Did or what they were going to do or hoping
to do. But yeah, those are some pretty good times
in your life. I was happy for him that he's
getting to have them.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, here here, Yeah, good times. You've made me win full.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Don't let your meat loaf, don't let your hot dog stand,
don't let your wristwatch all good suggestions.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Right right, Jack, gets yourself a fryer so you can
make that fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't see myself doing that. Just pop it right
in like a lot of work. Well you just throw
it in there, Yeah, you just throw it in there.
And out comes fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I find that her to believe you got a battered
the thing right, the chicken you have breading on there, Michael,
do you have any idea what you're talking about about?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, I just I hate to see him be so
defeated over food.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, yeah, because it's not that hard, but uncertainty. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm very, very slow at prep and my wife is
very you're missing pardon.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Me your missing plot.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It has been acting up lately. I'm taking an anti inflammatory,
but uh, but she is less so now, but really
hesitant about cooking meat because she's afraid she won't get
it right. And fish, really afraid to cook fish. And
I'm like, I'll be fine, I'll cook it. So you know,
we're like Jack Spratt and his uh and his wife.
(09:14):
A lot of hesitancy to cook is uncertainty of how
it's gonna come out. Generally, it'll come out okay, you'll
learn something, it'll be better the next time, nobody will die.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Probably my hesitancy is I just hate it. I don't
understand people liking to cook.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There's why do you hate it? That's what I'm trying
to get behind.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There's not one tiny aspect of the process, fear fear.
I don't think overcome the fear. It seems like a
lot of work for a little payoff. I think it's
because I don't enjoy eating enough. I think that might
be it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And yet you eat like a grizzly bear. Man, I
can have a hot contradictions.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
With mustard every night for the rest of my life
and be perfectly happy.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, there you go, Well, cook out, I'll talk. Then, Well,
I guess that's it.
Does the meat need to be submerged? It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Wow, what I have finally, after the suggestion coming to
me from friends, family, co workers and listeners for years
as a single parent trying to figure out how to
feed my kids, as a guy who can't cook, I.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Have finally.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Finally opened up the box, gotten out the crock pot
and put something. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How long was it? Just stating?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just stating in it?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean it's been a decade, right, I've had a few.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think I got one for when I got married. Well,
now we use that one, so I huh, they gave
it to you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That one.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We used a lot, a lot. I washed that thing
a million times, which is fine. Stuffing a crock pot's good.
I can't believe I'm just getting around to it. And
I'll tell you what chat GPT is usual. Chatbots helping
a lot. It had all the most Like I said,
I want, I want to have roast beef like my
mom made it. I'm just picturing a plate of roast
beef with ketchup on it that you know, just falls
(01:18):
apart under your fork. Roast beef with the potatoes. It's
so good. And it told me.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
How to pip on roast beef.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh no, that's so good. Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Anyway, according to chat GPT, that's a common beginner's mistake
thinking that the the meat needs to be submerged because
the amount of broth that I put in there, the
meat's sticking out over the top of it. And it said, no, no, no,
if you haven't completely covered, it'll ruin it. But that's
a common beginner mistake. I said, how about the potatoes.
They're not submerged either. No, that's perfectly fine. It cooks
(01:54):
an a combination of the liquid and the steam and
the heat and everything in there for eight to ten hours.
So anyway, one thought that I was having and if
if this turns out even close to the stuff that
the way my mom made it, which was probably if
I asked her, she'd probably say, yeah, that's something I
threw together on busy days because it was so dang
(02:14):
easy and it takes no you know, skiller time. But
it's so delicious. I can't believe I'm just getting around
to trying it now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are we talking like a pot roast? Yeah? Pot roast, yeah, corn, carrots.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And potatoes that I threw in there. And you know
onion soup mix on top, and it's going to come
out delicious.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah. See to me, the only sauce needed is the sauce, yea,
the broth. The fixen's there? What do you call it?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The juice? Yes, Michael, you gotta try a pork line.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Pork lines are great in crackpots.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm gonna try all kinds of things if this works out.
Can I just throw a fish in her like it's
head on and its tail and everything you could. I
was thinking about the.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You can throw a dead cat there if you wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh, tender was right off the tail.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You gotta slow cook it.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Huh ah, This mouser is tender.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What's your like among your favorite things that your mom
used to make? Because I'm thinking about I'm trying to
do a better job of cook for my kids. And
roast roast beef and the crock pots one of the
things my mom would make that was so good.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know you and I agree on this. I gotta
go right to the meat loaf. I have never understood
jokes about meat loaf. Maybe it was my mom made
really good meat loaf, and my wife makes really good
meat loaf.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, my god, that's it. One of the top items
in the food pyramid. To me, it's delicious.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
How much talent involved in a meat loaf? Because I
was thinking about, like some of the stuff I love,
I just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Got to make sure it's not dried out.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I loved my mom's fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy.
But I'm not gonna be able to make that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I just I'm just taught m.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Meat loaf. Possibly, yes, Michael.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
See the beautiful thing about meat loaf before Michael steps up,
is that, uh, it's fabulous for dinner and Little Worcester
shear sauce and yeah, I indulgent a little ketchup in
that hypocrite.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You're right guilty.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But then the next day it's even freaking better on
a sandwich, a meat loaf sandwich. I'm drooling like a
dog over here just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Michael, That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's better the next day I caught that sick.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh what did your mom make that you really liked? Michael,
Lasagna really good? That requires talent. Also, I have no talent.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh no, no, it's there's not much to it. You
just it's layers it's just layers. You gotta cook the noodles, but.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Don't say noodles. You're finally. Italians don't like the word noodles.
Noodles is a pasta.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Gotta I cooked the pasta. That's right for the gabba.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I've said this on the air many, many times. My
biggest failing, absolutely as a single parent, has been the
providing meals for my kids. I just I've never cooked.
I don't like it. I know a lot of people
really love it. I hate it, and I've never done it.
So i'm and I'm unwilling to learn.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Would you got to have a living cooking maid like
Alice from the Brady Bunch?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I should have.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I did have an all pair for a summer and
a sitter who needed someplace to live, and I had
an empty bedroom, so I said, live here and I
won't charge you to sit. So that was my all pair.
But she is from a foreign land and her food
smelled horrible, so I never asked her to cook.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Wow, Wow, what foreign land, you will want to say.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Don't I wouldn't ask her to park my car?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh? Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wow that's leaves several choices, but close enough. Ah, yeah, yeah,
I liked it the homes of folks from other cultures
and immediately been overwhelmed by the cooking smells and not
in a good way either, Right, Yeah, and I would
probably enjoy but it's like.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Open the windows. It smells horrible. We need to call
a plumber. Something has gone wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, somebody did put a cat in a crocknot.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A smell run here.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but I would like to recreate some of the
stuff that I really really enjoyed as a kid, and
definitely the crock pot meals. I can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'll tell you what you I don't know. You know
how cooperative your your older boy is these days.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But lasagna, if the three of you divide it up,
you know you're the head of the pasta committee. You're
dealing with the sauce, which frankly.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Can be pouring it out of a jar. And that's fine.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Jar sauce is so much better than it used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah yeah, and then somebody browns the meat or whatever.
You can go sasage, you can go ground beef, you
can go vegetarian if you know you got limp, wrists
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Many choices and that's genies. You gotta have the ricata.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Speaking of my older son, last night, he came home.
He's out with some of his friends, and he came
home and there was a car out front and I said,
who's that and he said, oh, it's He named his
two friends. He said, we're gonna go do some stuff.
And they were laughing in there at the music playing,
and I was thinking, oh my god, this is the
(07:38):
summer between his sophomore and junior year or high school.
Three guys headed out into the night. Does it get
any better than that?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Oh? Not in my recollection. I don't know what they.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Did or what they were going to do or hoping
to do. But yeah, those are some pretty good times
in your life. I was happy for him that he's
getting to have them.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, here here, Yeah, good times. You've made me win full.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Don't let your meat loaf, don't let your hot dog stand,
don't let your wristwatch all good suggestions.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Right right, Jack, gets yourself a fryer so you can
make that fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't see myself doing that. Just pop it right
in like a lot of work. Well you just throw
it in there, Yeah, you just throw it in there.
And out comes fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I find that her to believe you got a battered
the thing right, the chicken you have breading on there, Michael,
do you have any idea what you're talking about about?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, I just I hate to see him be so
defeated over food.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, yeah, because it's not that hard, but uncertainty. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm very, very slow at prep and my wife is
very you're missing pardon.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Me your missing plot.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It has been acting up lately. I'm taking an anti inflammatory,
but uh, but she is less so now, but really
hesitant about cooking meat because she's afraid she won't get
it right. And fish, really afraid to cook fish. And
I'm like, I'll be fine, I'll cook it. So you know,
we're like Jack Spratt and his uh and his wife.
(09:14):
A lot of hesitancy to cook is uncertainty of how
it's gonna come out. Generally, it'll come out okay, you'll
learn something, it'll be better the next time, nobody will die.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Probably my hesitancy is I just hate it. I don't
understand people liking to cook.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
There's why do you hate it? That's what I'm trying
to get behind.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
There's not one tiny aspect of the process, fear fear.
I don't think overcome the fear. It seems like a
lot of work for a little payoff. I think it's
because I don't enjoy eating enough. I think that might
be it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And yet you eat like a grizzly bear. Man, I
can have a hot contradictions.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
With mustard every night for the rest of my life
and be perfectly happy.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, there you go, Well, cook out, I'll talk. Then, Well,
I guess that's it.
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