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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Drama in real life? What would you do? It's one
more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm strong and one more thing.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Number one duck's quack but doing a sexy duck dance.
I don't want video that existing.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I went to the State Fair hypnotist. I'll tell that
story here in just a little bit, and I just
have a question for it. But first this, as I
promised on the radio show, I called nine to one
one on somebody yesterday. And I can't figure out time
and place different than what I grew up with many
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many years. Different time, different era, different part of the country,
different kind of town. But I've seen multiple things happen
where back in my day there would have been a
line of men to deal with it, and they're no
longer are and I again, time and place. I don't
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know if it's changed everywhere or it's just because I
live somewhere different. I grew up in the rural Midwest.
But this particular story. Yesterday, I go to the gym
and I'm going to work out and so hot, I
actually drove to the gym instead of walking there, and
I get out of my car and I hear this
screeching as I'm walking toward the gym and this gym,
there's a gym, there's a pool, there are tennis courts,
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it's a little compound area, a little lake, and it's
a country club, is what it is. I hear this screeching,
and I thought, is that a dog?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
As I got closer, I thought it's a human. And
then it became more and more clear to me. As
I got closer. It sounded like an angry human, and
I thought, what could this possibly be? I walk up
closer and it's some guy, guy like I don't know
how it was mid fifties tank top screaming at his
wife at the top of his lungs. She's sitting down,
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he's in her face, like nos, right right next to
I don't know that it's his wife. I was just
assuming wife or girlfriend companion screaming at her. We're fucking going,
We're fucking going now. You hear me pounding the table
like right next to her, and she jumps. She's clearly
physically afraid of him and just screaming, just like berserk.
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And I thought, and there's people about, like nobody close,
but there are people other people that are hearing it,
and everybody else is just pretending they don't hear it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And I thought, this guy looks.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Like he's a quarter of a second away from punching
this woman in the face, and she's clearly scared to death.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Why is nobody paying any.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Attention to this? Anyway, I walk, I have to go
buy him to get to the gym. Anyway, I walk
up there, and I kind of go around the corner
and I'm standing by this bush where he can't see me,
and this guy is clearly close to snapping, and I
dial up nine one one and tell him in hush tones,
what's going on. I said, you got to get somebody
here right right away, because this is going to turn this.
I said, I might be fighting this guy before he
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get here, and because I thought, if he lays a
hand on her, I can't let this freaking old fat
dude beat up his wife and me and and anyway,
long and short of it, my point to this story
was when I was younger, different time, different place, I
know so many guys that not only to do the
right thing, would have intervened like before, not just call
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nine one one. They'd have walked up and said, hey,
you're clearly scaring the woman. What is going on here.
But I know so many guys that would have thought cool,
a chance to fight somebody. That is not my fault.
This is an opportunity. I've known so many dudes like
that in my life. They were thought, this is awesome,
I get to fight a guy and it's justified.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Where have those people gone?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Was a different era, different part of the country, cell phones, litigation,
the whole be sensitized.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, yes, partly, and yes, yeah, I think there are
a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
There's not a chance that could have happened, like when
I was a twenty one year old. Not a chance
that happens in public without five guys who are ready
to fight that dude immediately.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Not a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And now everybody's just kind of looking at my phone
pretending I don't hear some guy who clearly is on
the verge of violence. Nobody's doing nothing. That just seems
nuts to me.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, Wow, that's a tough one. I don't I can't
even picture that happening in my child.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
She was so thankful afterwards that I called the police.
After the police got there and everything was dealt with
and everything like that. But it's wild, like everybody's just
gonna pretend this and like go in the room and like,
if he beats the crap out of her out here,
I guess that's his her fault for being in a
relationship with them or something. I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'd have a lot of different
opinions on whether it be right in or seed. There
hasn't been violence yet. You know, he's screaming me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I was clearly scared to death. Yeah, obviously scared to
death and should have been. He was a guy completely
out of controlled.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And then one of the workers came up to me
and I like, I thought, well, where were you? You're
a young, strong male, why were you hiding around the corner?
But he said, yeah, the guy drank like fifteen beers
this afternoon out on the patio at the band. Okay,
so you know he's a drunk guy. So you have
even more information than I have.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah. Wow. I was thinking about this in reference to
the absolutely horrific shooting as we're recording this just a
day ago, day and a half ago in Idaho at
the In and Out Burger, and some of the videotapes
that have surfaced of people who are in the area,
of course with their phone up, you know, recording it.
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And the comments were at least in the one I
saw a young fella saying, essentially, people are running. Look
they're running, man. That guy's shooting. Look at him shooting. Wow,
And I think, wow, have part of what's going on here?
And I don't know your specific situation. It's hard to
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judge this. I was there. But this gets back to
my frequently expressed theme that it used to be virtually
all of our experience was personal experience. We saw it,
we heard it, we experienced it, we shook the hand
of the person involved, or threw a punch. It was
personal experience, with a little media that creeps in around
the edges. Look, honey, as you flip through the morning newspaper,
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you know something happened in New York. But now, especially
given how online people are, the ratio of like media
filtered experience or media provided experience versus personal experience has
gotten flipped completely upside down and outrageous breaks through, breaks
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through the algorithms, and violent and crazy. Hell, I've gotten
pulled down into the rabbit hole. And I'm like anti
rabbit hole guy. If I even sense myself like I'm
that third YouTube video starts, I'm mister wait, wait, wait,
I see what you're doing, and I turn it off.
I've gotten pulled into dumb asses fighting each other in
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McDonald's wormholes or you know, fast food restaurants. So anyway,
you combine the fact that people no longer differentiate between
their actual experience and what they've seen online, and the
fact that outrageous has become routine. Oh and there's another
aspect of this too that flitted into my head and
flitted out again. It'll probably pack pop back in. Eventually.
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People witness something in real life and they relate to
oh oh how people will say just vicious things behind
their keyboards, whether to us or other people online or whatever.
And then if you say, hey, I found that really hurtful.
That was overlining, and they immediately back down. So you've
got this. People no longer appreciate real life for real life,
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it's just another video. What they experience themselves is just
another video in their feed.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah. I do think that some of that is it
gets harder to separate in your mind another TikTok video
versus this is actually happening near.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You, right, or what to do about it, or how
aberrant it is or how outrageous it is, you have
to reset.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, so, because the proof of that is so I
was leaning towards some sort of I don't know, lack
of manliness that's going on, or what's right and wrong that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But then how about calling nine one One's a pretty
passive way to deal with it. You're over there by
the pool, looking at your magazine, You're seeing what's happening. Clearly,
this could go crazy any half second. You won't even
call nine to one one when you don't even have
to get involved, right, Because I was the only person
to call, and again she was really really thankful, and
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so were the cops.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah. Yeah, it's disturbing, no doubt. Yea.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I know people now here in this time and place
that if they had been there, they would punch that
guy in the face, guarantee.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm playing around with this idea just because I want
to get a grasp of it. I mean, this is
a stupid and mundane example. I played golf yesterday. If
I constantly watched videos of people cheating at golf, and
then somebody cheated like in the game I'm playing the
group I'm playing in, it would probably strike me as
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a lot less outrageous than in real life. I don't know,
I'm trying to come up with a good example.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, one of the best examples is that study that
came out years ago about first person shooter video games.
Oh yeah, and just rewires your brain. So maybe our
brains are rewired about I mean, because the first time
we ever saw a fight in a McDonald's video, Try
to remember that you'd never seen before. I'd never seen
one before. First time you see one before, it kind
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of gets you amped up. I mean, it's like disturbing, right, Well,
it's not disturbing anymore because you've seen in entertainment, right,
So something changed in the wiring of your brain about
about witnessing that level of human on human.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Violence, right right, which.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Of course transfers into real life, I guess clearly.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
So now, yeah, these are odd times, can survive them.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Another thing to bring up on this, and this is
not complaining about the police. If we all want quicker
response times from police, then we need to fund it
at a much higher level. But what's the old saying,
you know.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
When seconds count to police are minutes away?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It was I don't know how long, but it at
least five minutes. And I thought, if I had been
fighting this guy, five minutes is a long time.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, you fight yourself to exhaustion, path fight again.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So it would have ended one way or the other
by the time the police got there. In five minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, So I mean, it's just a really good response
time too.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And it might have been longer than that. It might
have been ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Actually it had to.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Be ten minutes because I went in and I kept
an eye on it, and I went closer to the gym,
and I did a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Bl blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I kept coming back over and because he wandered off
for a while, then came back started screaming at her
some more. But yees, so it had to be more
like ten minutes or so. But I'm not blaming the police.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Again.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
If we want immediate response time, we need to fund
it at a very high level. But I think unless
you're ever in one of those situations, you kind of
have in your mind that when there's a heart attack
or a fight or something happens, you call the police in.
Theyre there instantly. They are not so you might have.
I got to deal with this mindset whenever anything's happening.
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I'm gonna have to deal with this myself.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Learn CPR and jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Just in case. I mean, I'm, you know, to take
a very I'm not Superman in this thing. I'm willing
to jump in with a probably drunk, fat guy roughly
my age. So it's not like I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's not like you're fighting a lion. A woman was
being mauled by a lion right in my town.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, exactly, all right. I can't believe you didn't know
what to do the right path.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Jack, film it, post it online and then rake in
all the money and get famous for it, and then
show up everywhere and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I could do funny captions or funny voiceovers like the
famous Hitler video tape having to be a coach screaming
at his quarterback, or one hundred different variations. Yeah, become
an influencer.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Could have been famous.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Could have mentioned Armstrong and Getty, Hey, Armstrong and Getty
like fights, put the camera on him, heard weekdays.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Could have sold some T shirts and Armstrong Getty dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I guess that's it.