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December 8, 2025 14 mins

First--Why are grown men wearing pajamas in public?  Next, Medicaid fraud is blowing up...and Jack is confronted with a surprisingly candid observation from a friend.  

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I need a parallel universe. It's one more.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thing I'm strong, and one more thing.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Before I get to why I need a parallel universe.
I just got a text from a friend of mine.
He is a retired grown man in his sixties who
said he hates sissy men who are at he's at
the airport. Apparently he hates sissy man who show up
at the airport in pajamas and slippers.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Amen, man up, men, Yeah, I agree, dress.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Like a grown up for crying out loud.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
When you're in high school. You know, we used to
like walk around in pajamas and stuff. But when you're
like a grown man doing that, that's weak.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know, look, harmless trends are armless trends, But pajamas
even in high school, put on yeah pants a college
Chinese attack. I live in a college town. Ninety percent
of the college kids I see are in their pajama.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, the ninety percent of them need to man up
and pant up.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, I'm not saying I'm footing the women.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's popular.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
To the why I need a parallel universe, I think
this is interesting. We've talked about this before, and you've
had a comment about it, Joe, which you'll probably repeat here.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Starting.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I'll start with this, and I almost never work this
side of the street about autism and kids' mental health problems.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But this is from the Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
What's the one that Byron York works for? Free Beacon
or Washington Times. I can never remember one of them.
Diagnosis rates of autism among children have more than tripled
over the past fifteen years. We know that one reason
which Minnesota's welfare scandal has laid bare with shocking details

(01:52):
is Medicaid fraud and abuse. Now we've been talking a
lot about the Minnesota thing, and in particular, they're fraud
which might.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Lead the nation.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Medicaid pays health care providers big bucks to diagnose and
treat children with autism, sometimes tens of thousand dollars a
month for a single child, yet states rarely verify that
kids were diagnosed actually meet the medical criteria for the disorder.
So if you put down that you've got an autistic kid,
nobody confirms it or not. Apparently he's quoting Alicia Finley's

(02:22):
piece in the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, or they get
appropriate treatment from qualified specialists. You don't have to one
confirm you got a diagnosis, or two show that you're
using the money for any sort of treatment or anything
like that. The results have to get lots of money.
Children covered by Medicaid or the government run children's Health
insurance program are two and a half times more likely
than those with private coverage to be diagnosed with autism. Now,

(02:45):
I suppose you could tease it out and have some
reason that kids with private coverage are less exposed to
plastics or cell phone towers or whatever the hell we
think causes autism. You know, I had a thought pop up,
but then I corrected it. I was thinking, well, maybe
the uh and this is not my point of view,
but I'm just expressing it. Maybe the greedy, selfish private

(03:07):
insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment. But then no,
it's it's just diagnosis, it's not treatments of any kind.
Two and a half times more likely to be diagnosed autistic,
the final sentence being many lower income kids are labeled
autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems. And
that's kind of actually what I wanted to get into.

(03:27):
So people always say, well, you know, is there more
autism or did we just used to overlook it and
not called anything. There's some of that, of course, but
that's not the vast majority of it. And I've talked
to people who researched this for a living. It's not
even close to explaining where we are.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
And if you've.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Had kids in the modern world, you know there's way
more kids with way more problems that ever existed.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
When you were young, depending on your age. I mean,
it's just it's just a fact. And this leads me
to what I really wanted to talk about. Is this.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
So a woman who knows grown woman with kids, she
brought this, She said this the other day, just offhandedly.
She actually has four kids, three of them autistic, three
autistic boys, one of them severely autistic. Wow, she said, well,
you're clearly on the spectrum somewhere to me, He said

(04:20):
what She said, Oh yeah, yeah, I can diagnose it
from a mile away. You're clearly She said, you're obviously ADHD.
I assume you know that, and I said no, I've
never thought about it. For a second. She said, you're
clearly ADHD and you're probably almost certainly on the spectrum
of some sort I thought, wow, that is I've never
even thought about this before. That's really interesting, which gets
to my whole parallel universe thing. I don't know if

(04:42):
I am or not. I'm a sixty year old man
who's been relatively successful in my life, has lived. I'm
not sure it makes any difference at this point, but
if I would, I would love to go back in
a parallel universe and have me diagnosed with something, age whatever,
put in maybe special classes, maybe given medication, whatever goes

(05:06):
along with it, and see how I would have turned
out versus ignoring it my whole life.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I'll be fascinating.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, absolutely, I've long fantasized about, you know, just seeing
that because it's such an intriguing question. I think for everybody,
what if I had taken a left instead of a right?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Uh huh, you know, career wise.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
You know, the partner wise, just one hundred things, how
would that have played out.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's just so intriguing.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
We specifically on this medical thing.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It is the question of now, if you're severely anything,
obviously you need to diagnosis in probably some sort of
either therapy or medication. But if you're that mild version
that a lot of kids are, are you better off
never being told that you have some special reason to
be not paying attention or struggle in life.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I think so, I would think so, like I.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wasn't told I have any special reason too, even though
some woman just told me the other day I do.
Are you better off just thinking, God, I suck at this,
I better work harder. Wow, that's that's a really difficult
question to answer simply say. Yeah, I'd say, I mean,
it depends, obviously, as you indicated, on.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
The severity of the situation. Yeah, there's something.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
To be said for figuring out like I did, because
I one hundred percent would have been diagnosed in school
with ADHD.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
It was just way, way too slow for me. It
made me insane.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Do you think it would have been helpful to you? See,
that's that's where it starts to get really complicated. Yes,
in a way, but it would have routed me in
a different direction than the one I took, which has
ended up being really interesting and fun and you know,
difficult at times, certainly. But I don't know what are
the downsides to medicaid. You have to incorporate that into

(07:01):
your analysis. Yeah, no doubt or upsides that. Maybe you know,
I've never had medication of those kinds. Maybe if I
ever had some medication. I don't know that I do
have any of these things that this woman said I have.
But if I did or do, and I'd taken any
medication where all of a sudden, oh wow, this must
be what it's like for other people to try to
pay attention. Maybe it would have been awesome, But knowing

(07:24):
my personality, I think it's much more likely that i'd
have had I got an excuse, yeah for not getting
my ass done?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, I can say shit, it's a podcast. I got
an excuse for onion my shit done. Finally, my ship
has come in.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know if i'd have done that or not,
or if kids do that. I have no idea to
that point, and I don't have it readily in front
of me.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But there's now a growing awareness that the fact that
like two thirds of all college students claim to need
special dispensation to take tests or whatever, it has become
completely unworkable. They're having to figure out what to do
now because it's just become idiotic. Everybody's got a special
need now. But if I was told I had something

(08:11):
when I was eight, with the exact same life I've lived,
personality I've lived. How much would that bore into my
mind of reason why I can't do this or I
shouldn't be held to a standard for that. I don't know,
but it would have to have an effect, Katie, look
like you wanted to say something.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, a friend of mine realized that she was having
a lot of trouble concentrating and she got diagnosed with
ADHD I think when she was twenty six, and then
they gave her medication and she stopped taking it because
she said it totally messed with my personality. It changed
who she was. So I wonder if that would happen
as a child. You would most people like that with

(08:51):
me if it totally changed my personal.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
She's ah, no comment. So a young man I know
who is thirty two, thirty two, thirty three, thirty three,
who looks a lot like me, but it's taller, recently
got saw a doctor about ADHD problems because he suspected

(09:16):
that he has that, and indeed got medication number one
and it messed with him and was bad.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Medication number two.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is great and he's thrilled, really really happy about it. Interesting, Okay,
he says he can he can focus on things for,
you know, thirty seconds at a time and not three
seconds at a time or even longer than that, and
it's just made all the difference in the world, which
is interesting because nobody who's known him since the day
he was born.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Realized that was going on, and neither did he.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
What made him realize it?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Like self awareness. I think that the more you live
and the more you experience, the more you realize. Wait
a minute, other people seem to do this easily, and
it's making me insane.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wouldn't that be crazy?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
If I figured out at age sixty a little tweak
here there, and all of a sudden, I can do
various things that I've struggled with my whole life, That'd
be nuts.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't know that I'm going to seek that.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Out, and the last thing I need is to go
down that road at this point. But I have no idea,
and I don't want to respond to emails and texts
about not believing in medication or diagnosis because I'm a
million miles from that. If you've been listening to the
show for a long time, I have a kid that's
got all kinds of stuff and all kinds of medications,
So I am on that train. But do we do

(10:38):
it more often than we need to?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Almost?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Certainly? Yes's true. Isn't that a one hundred percent Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, any responsible commentator would tell you that about the
And part of it is the pathologizing of little boys,
how the need to get up and move and have
lots of energy and you need to tire them out
before they can sit still. Is somehow that's that's a condition,
it's toxic maximlinity or.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And that's obscene. God, it makes me just so angry
to even think about.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Ugh.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I wish I could actually run that parallel universe experiment
with you know, me or anyone else where one you
tell them they've got an excuse, and one you don't
tell them, and see which turns out better.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't actually know.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, I think it would probably very kid to kid.
Here's a strong statement. I have not evaluated this statement
for its effectiveness. Side effects include diarrhea, pounding, headaches, and
eye bleeding.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Erections more than four hours, Oh, erections last for four days?
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh? My god?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
How am I supposed to sleep?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So here is my strong statement.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
That sort of revelation would hit with people roughly like
all obstacles hit with that person. Some people see an obstacle,
they lay down and quit and blame it for the
rest of their lives. Some people think, nah, all right,
that's what I gotta.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Deal with, and they deal with it. It would be
similar to like most setbacks.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Again, I just that's off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I really really don't know. It's my wheels have been
turning turning ever since this person said to me, Oh,
you're obviously on the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You don't know that?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Like what?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I would have been offended myself.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, they thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think I should have thrown a punch or something.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, totally, haymaker, I wouldn't be offended by that.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Really, if you told your boss I know you're yelling
at me, but you're only doing it because you're on
the spectrum, that's not gonna go well, for.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Instance, Yeah, yeah, oh, I don't think I am, but
I don't actually.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Know on and so are a lot of the geniuses
that have done all the genius stuff throughout history.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So I'm not I'm not that either.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, yeah, I'm sure they as coming out any second.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, what's an really interesting question is should you
investigate it now?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I mean, I do have social stuff that is outside
of the norm. I think, yeah, oh yeah, you are
as am I, but not quite as far down the
road of anti social you know, just being an introvert
social anxiety. I'd rather get in a fistfight than have

(13:46):
somebody hug me, for instance. Yeah, yeah, that's that's kind
of spectromy Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Spectromy What else goes with that?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I wonder? Oh gosh, it's it's it's a grab bag.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Do I get special parking spots or anything? I mean,
I'd look into it. If I get to like park
closer to the store.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Do you want a placard?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I want a placard. I want a tax deduction.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I got real bad ah adhd. Sometimes I wander off
and I can't find my car because I can't concentrate.
So I need to park in the first six spaces.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Please?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Do I get to board first in planes? I mean,
what else comes with this?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
If I? If I go ahead and pursue.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
This, but then you can be with people longer. A
fast pass, last pass of the theme park.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
See here's all kinds of things that are gonna come.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let me in. Imagine mountain, Let me in, Let me in.
I have the ADHD. I can't focus right. I'm barely
on the spectrum. Give me something, Give me something.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know, the placard'd be handy during the holiday season,
during Christmas shopping. I'm just saying, Jack, Well, I guess
that's it.
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