May 28, 2026 • 15 mins
First, a follow-up from the show regarding Winnie the Pooh quotes. Next, Comedian Shane Gillis has been a part of a national conversation about the jokes he used at The Netflix Kevin Hart Roast--what's all the hoopla?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would not sign up for a celebrity roast. It's
one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm it looks like we're canceling the roast, Michael, that sucks.
We're gonna do a surprise roast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We got a couple of clips from the roast of
Kevin Hart that aired somewhere Netflix or someplace the other day.
But before we get to that, Joe had such a
great quote for us during the show today. I wanted
to get a framed poster of it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, it's a Winnie the Pooh and Piglet having a conversation.
Winnie the Pooh, Pooh as he's known, said, what day
is it? Asked Pooh? It's today, squeaked Piglet. My favorite day,
said Pooh, which is sort of a sweet simplicity that
made the Winnie the Pooh cartoons so wonderful. And it's
(00:52):
a beautiful thought.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I thought that thought that was so fantastic, just
you know, focusing on life one day at a time
sort of vibe that. I went on Chat GPT and
so where can I Where can I find a poster
of this? And there's a lot to get framed and everything.
There's a lot of really high quality posters of it.
But chat GBT pointed out, by the way we're telling
you that Milne, the guy who wrote Winnie the Pooh, this,
(01:14):
he never wrote this. That was never in any Winny
the Pooh anything. Ever, somehow it just caught on and
became popular and people repeat it all the time and
there are t shirts and posters, but it's not actually
from Winnie the Pooh, which kind of took the fun
out of it for me. I mean, I like the sentiment,
but I'm not gonna have a Winnie the Pooh thing
framed on my wall that is made up. It'd be
(01:35):
like a really great quote and you got a picture
Lincoln on the wall and the quote next. Lincoln never
said that, but they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I've actually run into that lately, nice people too, So
I just can't get into the specifics. But they have
like a powerful quote on the wall, but it's attributed to.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't want to use the actual name Churchill or
Lincoln or whoever.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, but much more contemporary and it's not a quote
from them. They didn't make that up at all, but
they bought it and put it on their wall because
it spoke to them, like the winning the Pooh thing,
which is not Pooh spoke to you. Well, yeah, and
I don't want to buy people tell you shouldn't have
to go out and do a bunch of research, should you,
(02:24):
to make sure that a quote and a poster that
you can buy is real out Yeah, yeah, it's not though.
So we received a number of links to places to
buy a poster and a couple of people saying, hey, dudes,
I got bad news for you. As we were just describing.
My favorite one came from John and he sent along
a beautiful poster of the quote, slightly changed. What day
(02:46):
is it, asked Pooh. It's today, squeaked piglet. You know
what the fuck I mean? Said Pooh.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I like that one. I actually was thinking about allway
have on one side, the nice heartfelt one, and then
on the other side, don't you know what the fuck
I'm asking here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean the day of the week, asshole.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's the director's cut, a stupid, freaking big.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what I get for hagging around with a pig.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's that sort of language that they'd appreciated. A celebrity roast,
he says, making a transition. So, uh, the celebrity roasts
have been around, well, probably forever, but when we were
little kids, they were on TV now and then, and
it would be, you know, Frank Sinatra being roasted by
Don Nichols or Rot Don Ron Dickles, Don Wriggles or whoever,
(03:40):
and they were like they were kind of uh, lighthearted
jabs as opposed to like meanness.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right, might mention that he'd had three wives, you know,
but in just a winking way.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
There were jokes like, you know, about how rich you are,
or how famous you are, or how good looking you
are whatever, you know that practically compliments. Anyway, if you've
watched any of the roasts in recent years, the Tom
Brady one got lots of attention. I didn't actually watch it,
but the roast in recent years are so freaking mean.
I mean, they're just mean. And I don't know why
(04:18):
anybody would sign up for that, to sit there and
have somebody just say you suck, you're stupid, and your
wife's a whore and that like that's the joke, and
then the camera's on you to see what your facial
reaction is gonna be, right, I don't understand why anybody
does this. Anyway. I watched part of the I've seen
part of the Kevin Hart Roast the other night. Sean
(04:41):
Gillis was the host. Shane Gillis, Sorry, I'm just making
up all kinds of names, Ron Dickles, Shane Gillis, uh
and and some of it was really really funny, but
some of them was super mean spirited. But one joke,
Gillis himself said, you probably should have taken that one
out at afterwards. We'll play that one for you in
(05:01):
a second, but just to give you a vibe of it,
here's the host of the roast making some jokes about
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And speaking of black men who once made an impact
years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kevin has a forty four inch vertical leap and I
know that because he can kiss his wife on the lips.
Being five to one sucks, but at least you can
tell him apart from all the other blacks. Yeah, they
told me to be racist, or am I gonna make
fun of Oh, you got a huge day and you're
a billionaire. Yeah. When you see Kevin stand next to
all his normal sized black friends, he looks like the
period at the end of a sentence.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, Kevin, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah to really understand Kevin's origins, you have to
go back to the beginning. Kevin's ancestors came to America
in a slave ship in a bottle. He grew up
in Philadelphia, where his mother worked at the University of
Pennsylvania and his father was one of the California raisins.
I'm just joking around. He wasn't raising anybody. Kevin's dad
(05:56):
wasn't there for him because he was addicted to coke,
which is a lot more respectable to not being there
for your kids because you're filming fucking Jumanji three.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's pathetic. That's good, Michael, I've pretty joking, pretty funny. Yeah,
I mean that's harsh because Kevin Hart's talked about how
his dad took off on him, was a drug addict
and took off on him. And your dad wasn't raising anybody.
Your dad was doing cocaine. Of course, that's more respectful.
Look not being around for your kids because you're doing
Jumanji three. I thought that was a pretty funny joke.
(06:27):
And there was a lot of this. And there's one
comedian chick on there. I don't know her, but her
husband killed himself jumping off a bridge, and there were
endless jokes about that, about her husband killing himself and
bridges and this sort of stuff. What the hell now, Gillis,
the host, said, I called her. He said, I didn't
know if I should make these jokes, and she said
it was okay. She felt it was actually kind of
(06:48):
therapeutic to make jokes about her husband jumping off the bridge.
So I got a clearance before I did these, So
I thought that was kind of interesting. Actually, my favorite
joke is a Golden State Warriors fan was because Draymond
Green was there. And uh, and Gillis says, Draymond Green,
who has five championship rings, But come on, that's like
saying ringo star has eleven number one albums. Thought's pretty funny.
(07:13):
You're not the star of the team. You just have
to be there. Yeah. Anyway, here's the joke that he
says in retrospect, he probably shouldn't have told.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I know this, Dais is full of degenerate scumbags, and
they're gonna be up here saying a lot of racist,
terrible things tonight, But not me. I'm not gonna be
doing that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I've got a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Nice PG short joke that i'd like you guys to
be a part of Okay, Kevin is so short. Kevin's
so short that they're gonna have to let him from
a bonzeie tree. Oh, that was a three weeks of
(07:53):
deliberation on that joke. I was, Look, I understand how
serious the word linked is, but ponzai is so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, it's a rough joke. That is a rough joke.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's interesting that whoever had that video was leaping the
word lynch.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. I've heard that five hundred different places and it
wasn't bleeped like that anywhere else. Who decided to bleep
out a tenth of a half of a second of
the word lynch and thought that was somehow made things better?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I know there are some internet sites, social media sites
that censor all sorts of stuff, so you like, you'll
see it sometimes on Twitter where they use an asterisk
in place of the A and rape, or you know,
they don't spell out pedophile because they don't want the
algorithm to do something or other. I'm not an expert
on it, obviously.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But that's weird, and it actually goes opposite of the
one point I was going to try to make here.
If maybe we're headed to a Lynch jokes. That's getting
way out there. But you know, we've lived through the
period where you can't say the N word even if
you say, I'm saying this word only, so what we
(09:06):
know word we're talking about, and then we're gonna have
a discussion about the power of words and stuff like it.
You say it, you're still gonna lose your job, get
kicked out of your college or kicked off the radio
or whatever. That's just beyond a idiotic that's pre enlightenment.
It's some sort of weird Harry Potter stuff. I mean,
it's just crazy. And I wondered if making a Lynch
(09:28):
joke like that in that audience and everybody, you know,
kind of uncomfortably groaning, But it aired and and Kevin
Hart laughed with kind of ooh wow, it was rough,
you know, that sort of stuff. I wonder if maybe
we're moving into an era where we can act like
grown ups and not like prehistoric words or magical beans
(09:49):
sort of lifestyle we've been going.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I certainly hope so, because that would mean we're no
longer under the sway of the critical theory crowd. Yeah,
because that's their say, what you said is problematic. You
can't say that that gave me offense. That's a microaggression.
Words are violence exactly. Your intent doesn't matter, it's just
how I receive it, because that's how the silence people
and capture institutions put it in.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Putting in an asterisk instead of an A in the
word rape is childish.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh yeah, it's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It is absolutely And that's worse than the idiotic it is. Well,
it's like I said, it's pre enlightenment. It's some sort
of words or letters or magical incantations that can turn
you into a frog or something. I mean, it's just nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, can't say Voldemart right. Yeah, I've hated that
from the beginning. Now that I understand why they do it,
I get it as a strategy. I just I thought
it was like stupid, but now I get that it's
it's not stupid, it's vicious. But yeah, I don't think
you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
About it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
We are in a different era, although well both are true.
There are all so people in parts of the world
that can't be canceled because they don't care. It's like
Ricky Gervais always said, can't cancel me cast me from
what you going to do? What I do. I don't
care what you think. Oh you're racist? Huh no, so
are you. I don't care what you say. And there's
(11:16):
a certain power to that. Well, we've enjoyed it for
a long time, thankfully, you know, Well I probably shouldn't
say this picture a person who has convictions in business
relationships with people who don't.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That could go badly.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Thankfully that never happened.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, we've gone so far down this road it's almost
hard to remember what it was like in the before times.
But so Shane Gillis makes that joke. He he, he
has said, he has said, you know, when I look
back on it, I probably shouldn't have made that joke.
I saw I'm in a podcast the other day. But
he tried out at clubs around the country and he
(12:02):
said with different audiences and black and white and stuff
like that, and he thought, you know, it gets more
laughs and not so. Worst case scenario should be people think,
oh my god, that's too much. You're probably right. Nobody
was hurt, No damage was actually done. Enough people talked
about people, nothing actually occurred, and we've we've we were
(12:25):
so far down the road of the wolkesters being right
that we act like, you know, some damage, some irreparable
damage was done. There's there's no fixing the damage that
was done by that joke, which is obviously crazy, right.
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It reminds me of Stockholm syndrome where hostages slowly over
time they seek they realize their their life, not to
mention their comfort, their happiness, their next meal, whatever, is
in the hands of their captors. And so they evolved
to the point where they're just doing anything they can
and to please their captor, to the point that their
(13:03):
captor can get out of the truck they're holding them
in and go make a phone call, and they won't
make a run for it because they just don't want
to displease their captor. It's really fascinating and troubling. But
a lot of people I think were under the sway
or under the threat of the woke crowd, the critical
theory crowd, and just so afraid of them. They started
(13:25):
to internalize it and say to themselves, what you just said,
Oh my gosh, that hurt people. That did real damage
because they're trying to please their their torturers. But no,
no harm was done. People were only offended by crap
because they chose to be offended by crap. And I'll
(13:45):
tell you, the more you know about the history of
lynching in this country, the harder it is to take
that joke. But we can talk about it. In fact,
that would be a good thing, which has been the
role humor has played forever. It gives you a little
sugar pill to take a hard truth with and then
you can talk about that hard truth. Well then that
was so evil about the critical theory crowd they prevented that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well then we also have the thing that we always
play that clip of Ricky Gervais explaining these jokes. What's
actually going on there people laughing and groaning is everybody
saying together, we don't approve of lynching. That's that's, you know,
an awful thing that should have never happened, and you know,
joking about it is wrong because I mean, it's all
(14:30):
everybody being an agreement on the right side of the issue.
It's not saying, yeah, it's funny because I think lynching
is fine.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, it's a double reverse yeah, yeah exactly, and everybody agrees,
so they laugh out of discomfort and common agreement.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That oh my god, that was out of line. Yeah,
but the people laugh and they're uncomfortable. I wonder if
the woke people, you know, have taken another step down
the road of having power with that airing the way
it did that clips certain I certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So it's a good point.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, I guess that's it.
I would not sign up for a celebrity roast. It's
one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm it looks like we're canceling the roast, Michael, that sucks.
We're gonna do a surprise roast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We got a couple of clips from the roast of
Kevin Hart that aired somewhere Netflix or someplace the other day.
But before we get to that, Joe had such a
great quote for us during the show today. I wanted
to get a framed poster of it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, it's a Winnie the Pooh and Piglet having a conversation.
Winnie the Pooh, Pooh as he's known, said, what day
is it? Asked Pooh? It's today, squeaked Piglet. My favorite day,
said Pooh, which is sort of a sweet simplicity that
made the Winnie the Pooh cartoons so wonderful. And it's
(00:52):
a beautiful thought.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I thought that thought that was so fantastic, just
you know, focusing on life one day at a time
sort of vibe that. I went on Chat GPT and
so where can I Where can I find a poster
of this? And there's a lot to get framed and everything.
There's a lot of really high quality posters of it.
But chat GBT pointed out, by the way we're telling
you that Milne, the guy who wrote Winnie the Pooh, this,
(01:14):
he never wrote this. That was never in any Winny
the Pooh anything. Ever, somehow it just caught on and
became popular and people repeat it all the time and
there are t shirts and posters, but it's not actually
from Winnie the Pooh, which kind of took the fun
out of it for me. I mean, I like the sentiment,
but I'm not gonna have a Winnie the Pooh thing
framed on my wall that is made up. It'd be
(01:35):
like a really great quote and you got a picture
Lincoln on the wall and the quote next. Lincoln never
said that, but they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I've actually run into that lately, nice people too, So
I just can't get into the specifics. But they have
like a powerful quote on the wall, but it's attributed to.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't want to use the actual name Churchill or
Lincoln or whoever.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, but much more contemporary and it's not a quote
from them. They didn't make that up at all, but
they bought it and put it on their wall because
it spoke to them, like the winning the Pooh thing,
which is not Pooh spoke to you. Well, yeah, and
I don't want to buy people tell you shouldn't have
to go out and do a bunch of research, should you,
(02:24):
to make sure that a quote and a poster that
you can buy is real out Yeah, yeah, it's not though.
So we received a number of links to places to
buy a poster and a couple of people saying, hey, dudes,
I got bad news for you. As we were just describing.
My favorite one came from John and he sent along
a beautiful poster of the quote, slightly changed. What day
(02:46):
is it, asked Pooh. It's today, squeaked piglet. You know
what the fuck I mean? Said Pooh.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I like that one. I actually was thinking about allway
have on one side, the nice heartfelt one, and then
on the other side, don't you know what the fuck
I'm asking here?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean the day of the week, asshole.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's the director's cut, a stupid, freaking big.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what I get for hagging around with a pig.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's that sort of language that they'd appreciated. A celebrity roast,
he says, making a transition. So, uh, the celebrity roasts
have been around, well, probably forever, but when we were
little kids, they were on TV now and then, and
it would be, you know, Frank Sinatra being roasted by
Don Nichols or Rot Don Ron Dickles, Don Wriggles or whoever,
(03:40):
and they were like they were kind of uh, lighthearted
jabs as opposed to like meanness.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right, might mention that he'd had three wives, you know,
but in just a winking way.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
There were jokes like, you know, about how rich you are,
or how famous you are, or how good looking you
are whatever, you know that practically compliments. Anyway, if you've
watched any of the roasts in recent years, the Tom
Brady one got lots of attention. I didn't actually watch it,
but the roast in recent years are so freaking mean.
I mean, they're just mean. And I don't know why
(04:18):
anybody would sign up for that, to sit there and
have somebody just say you suck, you're stupid, and your
wife's a whore and that like that's the joke, and
then the camera's on you to see what your facial
reaction is gonna be, right, I don't understand why anybody
does this. Anyway. I watched part of the I've seen
part of the Kevin Hart Roast the other night. Sean
(04:41):
Gillis was the host. Shane Gillis, Sorry, I'm just making
up all kinds of names, Ron Dickles, Shane Gillis, uh
and and some of it was really really funny, but
some of them was super mean spirited. But one joke,
Gillis himself said, you probably should have taken that one
out at afterwards. We'll play that one for you in
(05:01):
a second, but just to give you a vibe of it,
here's the host of the roast making some jokes about
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And speaking of black men who once made an impact
years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Kevin Hart.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kevin has a forty four inch vertical leap and I
know that because he can kiss his wife on the lips.
Being five to one sucks, but at least you can
tell him apart from all the other blacks. Yeah, they
told me to be racist, or am I gonna make
fun of Oh, you got a huge day and you're
a billionaire. Yeah. When you see Kevin stand next to
all his normal sized black friends, he looks like the
period at the end of a sentence.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, Kevin, thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah to really understand Kevin's origins, you have to
go back to the beginning. Kevin's ancestors came to America
in a slave ship in a bottle. He grew up
in Philadelphia, where his mother worked at the University of
Pennsylvania and his father was one of the California raisins.
I'm just joking around. He wasn't raising anybody. Kevin's dad
(05:56):
wasn't there for him because he was addicted to coke,
which is a lot more respectable to not being there
for your kids because you're filming fucking Jumanji three.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's pathetic. That's good, Michael, I've pretty joking, pretty funny. Yeah,
I mean that's harsh because Kevin Hart's talked about how
his dad took off on him, was a drug addict
and took off on him. And your dad wasn't raising anybody.
Your dad was doing cocaine. Of course, that's more respectful.
Look not being around for your kids because you're doing
Jumanji three. I thought that was a pretty funny joke.
(06:27):
And there was a lot of this. And there's one
comedian chick on there. I don't know her, but her
husband killed himself jumping off a bridge, and there were
endless jokes about that, about her husband killing himself and
bridges and this sort of stuff. What the hell now, Gillis,
the host, said, I called her. He said, I didn't
know if I should make these jokes, and she said
it was okay. She felt it was actually kind of
(06:48):
therapeutic to make jokes about her husband jumping off the bridge.
So I got a clearance before I did these, So
I thought that was kind of interesting. Actually, my favorite
joke is a Golden State Warriors fan was because Draymond
Green was there. And uh, and Gillis says, Draymond Green,
who has five championship rings, But come on, that's like
saying ringo star has eleven number one albums. Thought's pretty funny.
(07:13):
You're not the star of the team. You just have
to be there. Yeah. Anyway, here's the joke that he
says in retrospect, he probably shouldn't have told.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I know this, Dais is full of degenerate scumbags, and
they're gonna be up here saying a lot of racist,
terrible things tonight, But not me. I'm not gonna be
doing that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I've got a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Nice PG short joke that i'd like you guys to
be a part of Okay, Kevin is so short. Kevin's
so short that they're gonna have to let him from
a bonzeie tree. Oh, that was a three weeks of
(07:53):
deliberation on that joke. I was, Look, I understand how
serious the word linked is, but ponzai is so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, it's a rough joke. That is a rough joke.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's interesting that whoever had that video was leaping the
word lynch.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. I've heard that five hundred different places and it
wasn't bleeped like that anywhere else. Who decided to bleep
out a tenth of a half of a second of
the word lynch and thought that was somehow made things better?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I know there are some internet sites, social media sites
that censor all sorts of stuff, so you like, you'll
see it sometimes on Twitter where they use an asterisk
in place of the A and rape, or you know,
they don't spell out pedophile because they don't want the
algorithm to do something or other. I'm not an expert
on it, obviously.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But that's weird, and it actually goes opposite of the
one point I was going to try to make here.
If maybe we're headed to a Lynch jokes. That's getting
way out there. But you know, we've lived through the
period where you can't say the N word even if
you say, I'm saying this word only, so what we
(09:06):
know word we're talking about, and then we're gonna have
a discussion about the power of words and stuff like it.
You say it, you're still gonna lose your job, get
kicked out of your college or kicked off the radio
or whatever. That's just beyond a idiotic that's pre enlightenment.
It's some sort of weird Harry Potter stuff. I mean,
it's just crazy. And I wondered if making a Lynch
(09:28):
joke like that in that audience and everybody, you know,
kind of uncomfortably groaning, But it aired and and Kevin
Hart laughed with kind of ooh wow, it was rough,
you know, that sort of stuff. I wonder if maybe
we're moving into an era where we can act like
grown ups and not like prehistoric words or magical beans
(09:49):
sort of lifestyle we've been going.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I certainly hope so, because that would mean we're no
longer under the sway of the critical theory crowd. Yeah,
because that's their say, what you said is problematic. You
can't say that that gave me offense. That's a microaggression.
Words are violence exactly. Your intent doesn't matter, it's just
how I receive it, because that's how the silence people
and capture institutions put it in.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Putting in an asterisk instead of an A in the
word rape is childish.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh yeah, it's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It is absolutely And that's worse than the idiotic it is. Well,
it's like I said, it's pre enlightenment. It's some sort
of words or letters or magical incantations that can turn
you into a frog or something. I mean, it's just nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, can't say Voldemart right. Yeah, I've hated that
from the beginning. Now that I understand why they do it,
I get it as a strategy. I just I thought
it was like stupid, but now I get that it's
it's not stupid, it's vicious. But yeah, I don't think
you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
About it.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
We are in a different era, although well both are true.
There are all so people in parts of the world
that can't be canceled because they don't care. It's like
Ricky Gervais always said, can't cancel me cast me from
what you going to do? What I do. I don't
care what you think. Oh you're racist? Huh no, so
are you. I don't care what you say. And there's
(11:16):
a certain power to that. Well, we've enjoyed it for
a long time, thankfully, you know, Well I probably shouldn't
say this picture a person who has convictions in business
relationships with people who don't.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That could go badly.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Thankfully that never happened.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, we've gone so far down this road it's almost
hard to remember what it was like in the before times.
But so Shane Gillis makes that joke. He he, he
has said, he has said, you know, when I look
back on it, I probably shouldn't have made that joke.
I saw I'm in a podcast the other day. But
he tried out at clubs around the country and he
(12:02):
said with different audiences and black and white and stuff
like that, and he thought, you know, it gets more
laughs and not so. Worst case scenario should be people think,
oh my god, that's too much. You're probably right. Nobody
was hurt, No damage was actually done. Enough people talked
about people, nothing actually occurred, and we've we've we were
(12:25):
so far down the road of the wolkesters being right
that we act like, you know, some damage, some irreparable
damage was done. There's there's no fixing the damage that
was done by that joke, which is obviously crazy, right.
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It reminds me of Stockholm syndrome where hostages slowly over
time they seek they realize their their life, not to
mention their comfort, their happiness, their next meal, whatever, is
in the hands of their captors. And so they evolved
to the point where they're just doing anything they can
and to please their captor, to the point that their
(13:03):
captor can get out of the truck they're holding them
in and go make a phone call, and they won't
make a run for it because they just don't want
to displease their captor. It's really fascinating and troubling. But
a lot of people I think were under the sway
or under the threat of the woke crowd, the critical
theory crowd, and just so afraid of them. They started
(13:25):
to internalize it and say to themselves, what you just said,
Oh my gosh, that hurt people. That did real damage
because they're trying to please their their torturers. But no,
no harm was done. People were only offended by crap
because they chose to be offended by crap. And I'll
(13:45):
tell you, the more you know about the history of
lynching in this country, the harder it is to take
that joke. But we can talk about it. In fact,
that would be a good thing, which has been the
role humor has played forever. It gives you a little
sugar pill to take a hard truth with and then
you can talk about that hard truth. Well then that
was so evil about the critical theory crowd they prevented that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well then we also have the thing that we always
play that clip of Ricky Gervais explaining these jokes. What's
actually going on there people laughing and groaning is everybody
saying together, we don't approve of lynching. That's that's, you know,
an awful thing that should have never happened, and you know,
joking about it is wrong because I mean, it's all
(14:30):
everybody being an agreement on the right side of the issue.
It's not saying, yeah, it's funny because I think lynching
is fine.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, it's a double reverse yeah, yeah exactly, and everybody agrees,
so they laugh out of discomfort and common agreement.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That oh my god, that was out of line. Yeah,
but the people laugh and they're uncomfortable. I wonder if
the woke people, you know, have taken another step down
the road of having power with that airing the way
it did that clips certain I certainly hope.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So it's a good point.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, I guess that's it.
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