May 20, 2026 • 14 mins
The Cavs/Knicks playoff game inspires a conversation about confidence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh god, it's coming my way.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm strong and Getty, one more thing. This could be anything.
I am intrigued.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's kind of sports kind of not kind of anyway.
So there was one of the biggest comebacks in NBA
history last night, certainly in a conference finals history. Nick's
coming back on the calves. They were twenty two down
with a little over seven minutes left, and they came
back and ended up winning. Here's a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No. Three Potter that one halfway down bridges fires away,
won't go and we go to overtime and sucks. Cleveland
was too cavalier. I'm Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So what was interesting about that, and this is what
I kind of want to talk about, is just pressure
and the way it affects different people and whether it's
a characteriser or genetics or whatever it is. But uh,
I was actually mentioned a Joe during one of the
commercial breaks. A weird thing about so far ahead, like
Cleveland was up by twenty two, is that when the
(01:04):
other team starts to come back, it's almost, well it's
not almost. It's definitely worse than if you'd have been
up by five and they came back because you got
this whole holy crap, we're falling apart. This is embarrassing thing.
And the crowd goes nuts because they're witnessing history and
stuff like that, and you can see them choking. These
(01:25):
are professional athletes who've been great their whole lives and
former MVP what James Harden a horrible airball three pointer?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just I mean like.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Into the stands as the nick started to come back
and all the celebrities are cheering and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wow. So what that made me think of is uh,
how I.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, I got which story do you want to tell first?
I'll go with this direction. The biggest choke I ever
had in my life doing anything, any competition, and this
is not much of an athletic event. I was playing
shuffle board at a book and I'm talking about the
kind of shuffle board where it's a wooden table that
you put sawdust on and you got the little metal
(02:13):
things and you slide him to each end like shuffle boarding,
you try to knock the other guy off and everything
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Wow, sawdust, I've only seen salt really interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Sawdust like you put on the dance Floorida country bar,
triple they always use it.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But anyway, I don't even remember. It's been so long
since I played.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I used to play all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Great beer drinking sport. Good do you mean it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Gives you an excuse to stand there and pound beers
for hours on end. But I was playing with this
guy we used to work with, and.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I was beating him really bad.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And I remember, if you played a twenty one or
I don't even know. Let's pretend it's twenty one and
I'm up like twenty to one and he starts to
come back and he gets to like three, so now
it's twenty to three, and he said, I'm gonna come
back and beat beat you with this. And I said,
if you come back and beat me now, because we
(03:05):
were playing for beer, I said, you come back and
beat me, I will buy your beer for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh my, oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So it becomes oh boy, twenty to three, twenty to five,
twenty to eight, twenty and when it started getting closer,
it went it went from I'm not worried about this,
I only need one more point.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And I win too.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
As he started to get closer, kind of like the
Cavaliers in the Knicks Last night, it started to it
started to get really, it's just the puck felt just
different in my hands, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Just the way that happens. And it's weird. It's such
a psychological thing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like the puck felt different in my hands, like I
couldn't just or like did I.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Always hold my arm this way? Did I have my
hobob like that? Or did I used to have it
down like this? Just things you never thought about before
become a thing. Yeah, from this the unconscious to the conscious. Yeah,
Like elite athletes are super aware of that and work
and work and work and generally have to screw it
up once before they realize, okay, this is what it
(04:04):
feels like. And the sports psychologists work with him a lot.
You've worked your whole life to be in this position.
This is a good thing. It's not a bad thing.
Your nervous system is telling you be scared, be scared,
But you're not scared. You're excited.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Wells And I've heard Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird
say the reason that they are in there three hours
before other players get there. You know they're already great.
Why are you doing this? Because when you get into
that moment. You need your body to take over so
that your your rattled mind isn't in charge. Your body
just does what your body has done a million times.
(04:40):
Is better for that situation, according to Kobe or whoever.
But anyway, so I'm playing the shuffle board game. He
gets closer, it comes back, and he beats me. Luckily,
he's not a big drinker. He got fired from wherever
we work, and I have never seen him.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Again because who knows how much beer I had to
buy him all my life.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
SEEZ was twenty five years ago. I wonder how many
beers I owe him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I was gonna ask, do you just send me a
check once a month or once a year? Tell you what,
that's gonna be my kid's first case when she gets
out of law school. I'm gonna have her find that
guy and sue you, and then you know, we'll get
thirty three percent of the beer the attorney.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But I was thinking about this and not just around sports,
although I can only come up with one other example.
I was watching my son last night, the boy Scout
thing I talked a little bit about on the radio show,
and he wasn't one of the MC's. He just received
an award thing that you went up for. But some
of the MC's and these are kids, and they were
doing a good job in front of a crowd about
(05:39):
sixty seventy people, and a couple of them seemed a
little nervous, but a couple of them seemed to really
confident because they've done this many years and they get practiced.
As the scout master was explaining, I said, you know,
I'll bet I know college graduates who is the first
time they ever do that? Is the first time they
ever do that when they're like twenty three, ever stand
up in front of that big out doing something of
(06:01):
any importance whatsoever. That's not just the classroom and uh,
and these guys have had these experience, this experience and
they're getting better at it. But I was, so, is
that people that are terrified of public speaking. That's not
a character issue. Is it it's just a you're built
that way or not? Because I think, yeah, a lot
of it's inborn, a lot of it's experience.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But it's both.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I've never been bothered by being in front of public
for speaking stuff, whereas for the sports thing, horrified if
it was in front of other people. I was I
was a mediocre athlete, but I wasn't horrible. If I
was just in the backyard with my friends, I was
as good as anybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I just I was okay.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I could hit and catch and do stuff. I wasn't
gonna embarrass myself. I would have never tried to play
Little League or any other sport if I was embarrassingly bad.
I know a lot of people who just you know,
they you're just not born with the ability to do
sports at all, See don't. I could somewhat, but I
couldn't in a game. I couldn't in a game that ball.
(07:05):
That's why the intro was, Oh my god, it's coming
my way. The ball gets hit in the air, and
I got all these thoughts going through my head. Wow,
all the people in the stands, everybody's watching. If I
drop this, this is gonna be the most.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
In the backyard with friends, I just catch it and
make the throw. Not think about a thing, right, And
I know people with public speaking like I don't think
about anything. If I'm walking up in front of a
crowd of public speaking other this would be a funny
thing to say. I might think that, but I don't think,
oh my god, what if I screw up? All these
people are watching me. I don't have those thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I know some people do. Sure, And it's weird. How
why just.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The quirk of the brain.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, it's it's probably a stew of things life experience. Uh,
you know, I don't. I don't know. It's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Can you can't think of another example between other than
or in public speaking? Is there anything else.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's like that? Oh? I get, you know, giving a
sales presentation, that sort of thing, being smooth and charming
and getting the slides right or whatever on your power.
You know, I don't know. I'm sure there are musical performances.
One certainly.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Interactions with people of the opposite sex or same sex
if you swing that way.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I remember I was amazed.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm comfortable at this point in my life, but I
certainly wasn't when I was younger, and I was amazed
by the people that just seem to be automatically. They
just could walk up to any girl and say anything.
And I was like, that's a superpower to me.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, that's like being able to do hands springs. I
understand it. I've seen it, but no, I have it's
impossible for me to do. Yeah, I was terrible at that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And they were just born with that for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, which is why I and Judy can attest to this.
Which is why I went with just complete, unvarnished sincerity
because I wasn't clever with girls. I mean, I could
be funny, but you know, I was more of the
you're really cute, I'd like to go out with you sometime,
because I was not going to dazzle them, so I
(09:12):
just went with I'm gonna be straightforward and it seemed
to work fairly well. Anyway, back to the sports thing,
and this is so interesting because I told you part
of this story. I was playing in a golf match.
It was a match play championship. If you know anything
about golf, match play, you don't count up the total
strokes at the end. You win individual holes. And I
(09:35):
was getting absolutely thrashed by my friend neighbor Sam, and
I was down five holes with five to go, meaning
it would take a miracle. And I don't want to
say I gave up, but I more or less gave up.
I thought, well, I'm getting beat, so I'm just gonna
have fun playing golf and I won the next hole,
and then I won the next hole, and then I
(09:57):
won the next hole, and Sam, who is a better
and more consistent player than me, he forgot which ended
the club to hold. I mean, he fell apart and
I ended up beating him on the nineteenth hole, the
extra hole, and he was just absolutely devastated. I was
highly amused. But and I've thought about this, and it
(10:19):
was I've thought about this a lot. That started when
I stopped giving an F And so it's not like
I rallied myself and showed my courage and led my
men to the top of the hill. No, I gave
up and I got it out of the Oh I gotta.
I got a part of my brain into the I've
(10:39):
done this before and it's fun part of my brain.
And if you can consciously do that, then you're Steph Curry.
And and you know, part of it is the practice
in trusting your your stroke and stuff like that. But
I also guarantee you there are athletes in that position
who say this is fun and some who think, oh my.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
God, yeah, And I guess confidence of success I can
I can only apply it to like public speaking stuff.
I can be in front of a big group of
people and try a joke, and if it doesn't work,
I'll think, yeah, I didn't work. But it's worked enough
in my life that I just think they don't all work.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm not devastated by it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The next one will work or whatever. Kind of like
Steph Curry or Michael Jordan's Nike d that was so
brilliant back in the day. I have taken the last
shot and eighty six times and missed. Because he took
the last shot and missed a lot of times. He
didn't always make it, but he was just confident that,
you know, I'm gonna make it more often than anybody
else here, so might as well be me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It might as well be me. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I guess it made me feel better about getting nervous
in any situation. Watching one of the greatest NBA players
of the last generation, James Harden should out like a
me air ball wouldn't have time last night. It's like, Okay,
I guess it can get to anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right. Here's one final psychological question for you on
this topic, because I know this to be true myself, friends, pros, everybody.
Young players have no fear in a lot of sports,
it's said they have no scar tissue, they haven't screwed up,
And there seems to be a sweet spot because, like
(12:27):
I said, I've seen this in myself. I was utterly
unconcerned with failure, like as a young athlete, completely confident
that self consciousness actually crept in and interesting. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So I could, as I get older, get more afraid
of public speaking when I start to ramble and not
be funny.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, and I'll give you this sign when that's happening.
Yeah exactly. Yeah, And then you got like older golfers,
they get the yips. They can't even take the club back.
Oh wow, Yeah, there's no youngsters with the yips. In fact,
that's one of the greatest pieces of wisdom I ever learned,
and I have to relearn in golf. It's in potting specifically.
(13:08):
Put like a little kid, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I taught h speech one on one in college for
a year, and there were kids that were like perfectly competent,
smart people who couldn't hold the paper in their hand
in front of thirty people in a room.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They're just so scared. Yeah, choose that. Oh I feel
for those kids. Yeah, that's rough my favorite yelled at them. Good,
that's the only way to straighten them out. Yeah, threaten
them belittle. Favorite public speaking joke The Simpsons disappointed dad
after the assembly, yelling at his kid we the purple.
(13:45):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I like confident bowlers strike to claim it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I s are you siding me?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Think you are? I am? Give me yourself, Michaels, get
it right? Well, I guess that's it.
Oh god, it's coming my way.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm strong and Getty, one more thing. This could be anything.
I am intrigued.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's kind of sports kind of not kind of anyway.
So there was one of the biggest comebacks in NBA
history last night, certainly in a conference finals history. Nick's
coming back on the calves. They were twenty two down
with a little over seven minutes left, and they came
back and ended up winning. Here's a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No. Three Potter that one halfway down bridges fires away,
won't go and we go to overtime and sucks. Cleveland
was too cavalier. I'm Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So what was interesting about that, and this is what
I kind of want to talk about, is just pressure
and the way it affects different people and whether it's
a characteriser or genetics or whatever it is. But uh,
I was actually mentioned a Joe during one of the
commercial breaks. A weird thing about so far ahead, like
Cleveland was up by twenty two, is that when the
(01:04):
other team starts to come back, it's almost, well it's
not almost. It's definitely worse than if you'd have been
up by five and they came back because you got
this whole holy crap, we're falling apart. This is embarrassing thing.
And the crowd goes nuts because they're witnessing history and
stuff like that, and you can see them choking. These
(01:25):
are professional athletes who've been great their whole lives and
former MVP what James Harden a horrible airball three pointer?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Just I mean like.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Into the stands as the nick started to come back
and all the celebrities are cheering and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wow. So what that made me think of is uh,
how I.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, I got which story do you want to tell first?
I'll go with this direction. The biggest choke I ever
had in my life doing anything, any competition, and this
is not much of an athletic event. I was playing
shuffle board at a book and I'm talking about the
kind of shuffle board where it's a wooden table that
you put sawdust on and you got the little metal
(02:13):
things and you slide him to each end like shuffle boarding,
you try to knock the other guy off and everything
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Wow, sawdust, I've only seen salt really interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Sawdust like you put on the dance Floorida country bar,
triple they always use it.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But anyway, I don't even remember. It's been so long
since I played.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I used to play all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Great beer drinking sport. Good do you mean it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Gives you an excuse to stand there and pound beers
for hours on end. But I was playing with this
guy we used to work with, and.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I was beating him really bad.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And I remember, if you played a twenty one or
I don't even know. Let's pretend it's twenty one and
I'm up like twenty to one and he starts to
come back and he gets to like three, so now
it's twenty to three, and he said, I'm gonna come
back and beat beat you with this. And I said,
if you come back and beat me now, because we
(03:05):
were playing for beer, I said, you come back and
beat me, I will buy your beer for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh my, oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So it becomes oh boy, twenty to three, twenty to five,
twenty to eight, twenty and when it started getting closer,
it went it went from I'm not worried about this,
I only need one more point.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And I win too.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
As he started to get closer, kind of like the
Cavaliers in the Knicks Last night, it started to it
started to get really, it's just the puck felt just
different in my hands, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Just the way that happens. And it's weird. It's such
a psychological thing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like the puck felt different in my hands, like I
couldn't just or like did I.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Always hold my arm this way? Did I have my
hobob like that? Or did I used to have it
down like this? Just things you never thought about before
become a thing. Yeah, from this the unconscious to the conscious. Yeah,
Like elite athletes are super aware of that and work
and work and work and generally have to screw it
up once before they realize, okay, this is what it
(04:04):
feels like. And the sports psychologists work with him a lot.
You've worked your whole life to be in this position.
This is a good thing. It's not a bad thing.
Your nervous system is telling you be scared, be scared,
But you're not scared. You're excited.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Wells And I've heard Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird
say the reason that they are in there three hours
before other players get there. You know they're already great.
Why are you doing this? Because when you get into
that moment. You need your body to take over so
that your your rattled mind isn't in charge. Your body
just does what your body has done a million times.
(04:40):
Is better for that situation, according to Kobe or whoever.
But anyway, so I'm playing the shuffle board game. He
gets closer, it comes back, and he beats me. Luckily,
he's not a big drinker. He got fired from wherever
we work, and I have never seen him.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Again because who knows how much beer I had to
buy him all my life.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
SEEZ was twenty five years ago. I wonder how many
beers I owe him.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I was gonna ask, do you just send me a
check once a month or once a year? Tell you what,
that's gonna be my kid's first case when she gets
out of law school. I'm gonna have her find that
guy and sue you, and then you know, we'll get
thirty three percent of the beer the attorney.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But I was thinking about this and not just around sports,
although I can only come up with one other example.
I was watching my son last night, the boy Scout
thing I talked a little bit about on the radio show,
and he wasn't one of the MC's. He just received
an award thing that you went up for. But some
of the MC's and these are kids, and they were
doing a good job in front of a crowd about
(05:39):
sixty seventy people, and a couple of them seemed a
little nervous, but a couple of them seemed to really
confident because they've done this many years and they get practiced.
As the scout master was explaining, I said, you know,
I'll bet I know college graduates who is the first
time they ever do that? Is the first time they
ever do that when they're like twenty three, ever stand
up in front of that big out doing something of
(06:01):
any importance whatsoever. That's not just the classroom and uh,
and these guys have had these experience, this experience and
they're getting better at it. But I was, so, is
that people that are terrified of public speaking. That's not
a character issue. Is it it's just a you're built
that way or not? Because I think, yeah, a lot
of it's inborn, a lot of it's experience.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But it's both.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I've never been bothered by being in front of public
for speaking stuff, whereas for the sports thing, horrified if
it was in front of other people. I was I
was a mediocre athlete, but I wasn't horrible. If I
was just in the backyard with my friends, I was
as good as anybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I just I was okay.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I could hit and catch and do stuff. I wasn't
gonna embarrass myself. I would have never tried to play
Little League or any other sport if I was embarrassingly bad.
I know a lot of people who just you know,
they you're just not born with the ability to do
sports at all, See don't. I could somewhat, but I
couldn't in a game. I couldn't in a game that ball.
(07:05):
That's why the intro was, Oh my god, it's coming
my way. The ball gets hit in the air, and
I got all these thoughts going through my head. Wow,
all the people in the stands, everybody's watching. If I
drop this, this is gonna be the most.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's all I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
In the backyard with friends, I just catch it and
make the throw. Not think about a thing, right, And
I know people with public speaking like I don't think
about anything. If I'm walking up in front of a
crowd of public speaking other this would be a funny
thing to say. I might think that, but I don't think,
oh my god, what if I screw up? All these
people are watching me. I don't have those thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I know some people do. Sure, And it's weird. How
why just.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The quirk of the brain.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, it's it's probably a stew of things life experience. Uh,
you know, I don't. I don't know. It's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Can you can't think of another example between other than
or in public speaking? Is there anything else.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's like that? Oh? I get, you know, giving a
sales presentation, that sort of thing, being smooth and charming
and getting the slides right or whatever on your power.
You know, I don't know. I'm sure there are musical performances.
One certainly.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Interactions with people of the opposite sex or same sex
if you swing that way.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I remember I was amazed.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm comfortable at this point in my life, but I
certainly wasn't when I was younger, and I was amazed
by the people that just seem to be automatically. They
just could walk up to any girl and say anything.
And I was like, that's a superpower to me.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, that's like being able to do hands springs. I
understand it. I've seen it, but no, I have it's
impossible for me to do. Yeah, I was terrible at that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And they were just born with that for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, which is why I and Judy can attest to this.
Which is why I went with just complete, unvarnished sincerity
because I wasn't clever with girls. I mean, I could
be funny, but you know, I was more of the
you're really cute, I'd like to go out with you sometime,
because I was not going to dazzle them, so I
(09:12):
just went with I'm gonna be straightforward and it seemed
to work fairly well. Anyway, back to the sports thing,
and this is so interesting because I told you part
of this story. I was playing in a golf match.
It was a match play championship. If you know anything
about golf, match play, you don't count up the total
strokes at the end. You win individual holes. And I
(09:35):
was getting absolutely thrashed by my friend neighbor Sam, and
I was down five holes with five to go, meaning
it would take a miracle. And I don't want to
say I gave up, but I more or less gave up.
I thought, well, I'm getting beat, so I'm just gonna
have fun playing golf and I won the next hole,
and then I won the next hole, and then I
(09:57):
won the next hole, and Sam, who is a better
and more consistent player than me, he forgot which ended
the club to hold. I mean, he fell apart and
I ended up beating him on the nineteenth hole, the
extra hole, and he was just absolutely devastated. I was
highly amused. But and I've thought about this, and it
(10:19):
was I've thought about this a lot. That started when
I stopped giving an F And so it's not like
I rallied myself and showed my courage and led my
men to the top of the hill. No, I gave
up and I got it out of the Oh I gotta.
I got a part of my brain into the I've
(10:39):
done this before and it's fun part of my brain.
And if you can consciously do that, then you're Steph Curry.
And and you know, part of it is the practice
in trusting your your stroke and stuff like that. But
I also guarantee you there are athletes in that position
who say this is fun and some who think, oh my.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
God, yeah, And I guess confidence of success I can
I can only apply it to like public speaking stuff.
I can be in front of a big group of
people and try a joke, and if it doesn't work,
I'll think, yeah, I didn't work. But it's worked enough
in my life that I just think they don't all work.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm not devastated by it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The next one will work or whatever. Kind of like
Steph Curry or Michael Jordan's Nike d that was so
brilliant back in the day. I have taken the last
shot and eighty six times and missed. Because he took
the last shot and missed a lot of times. He
didn't always make it, but he was just confident that,
you know, I'm gonna make it more often than anybody
else here, so might as well be me.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It might as well be me. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I guess it made me feel better about getting nervous
in any situation. Watching one of the greatest NBA players
of the last generation, James Harden should out like a
me air ball wouldn't have time last night. It's like, Okay,
I guess it can get to anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
All right. Here's one final psychological question for you on
this topic, because I know this to be true myself, friends, pros, everybody.
Young players have no fear in a lot of sports,
it's said they have no scar tissue, they haven't screwed up,
And there seems to be a sweet spot because, like
(12:27):
I said, I've seen this in myself. I was utterly
unconcerned with failure, like as a young athlete, completely confident
that self consciousness actually crept in and interesting. That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So I could, as I get older, get more afraid
of public speaking when I start to ramble and not
be funny.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, and I'll give you this sign when that's happening.
Yeah exactly. Yeah, And then you got like older golfers,
they get the yips. They can't even take the club back.
Oh wow, Yeah, there's no youngsters with the yips. In fact,
that's one of the greatest pieces of wisdom I ever learned,
and I have to relearn in golf. It's in potting specifically.
(13:08):
Put like a little kid, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I taught h speech one on one in college for
a year, and there were kids that were like perfectly competent,
smart people who couldn't hold the paper in their hand
in front of thirty people in a room.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They're just so scared. Yeah, choose that. Oh I feel
for those kids. Yeah, that's rough my favorite yelled at them. Good,
that's the only way to straighten them out. Yeah, threaten
them belittle. Favorite public speaking joke The Simpsons disappointed dad
after the assembly, yelling at his kid we the purple.
(13:45):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I like confident bowlers strike to claim it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I s are you siding me?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Think you are? I am? Give me yourself, Michaels, get
it right? Well, I guess that's it.
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