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July 27, 2026 15 mins

First, we must stop with the WNBA nonsense.  Next, sailing--it nearly took Jack away...woh oh oh.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is not going well. It's one more thing.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm one more thing.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Before we get to the this is not going well
story of the day. So the WNBA, that's the Women's
National Basketball Association, had their All Star Game over the weekend,
in which you take the best players in your entire
league and have them play against each other as kind
of an exhibition for the fans. We've all seen this

(00:31):
sort of thing in other sports.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I saw see wild action and the skills on display, and.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The greatest you know, going at each other. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Somebody put together a reel of the worst moments of
the game. The visual probably is more important than the audio.
The audio sounds like this, five seconds left of the
third Coppers jumping not able to hit that one young.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Camp whip it in Malanga. No, it's a howured it
just takes it right back.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What a pass from Mecca Asia Wilson can't finish it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The lots and lots of missed layups in which the
ball never got above the rim.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I realized that they air balls from twelve feet and
I realized.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Somebody picked out the worst moments from the game, which
is slightly unfair. I mean, if you put together the highlights,
the best moments. I'm sure there were some, but I
was amazed looking at that how many, just like it's
me out there, at my current age plays there were
in that game?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Did you see that I did? It was embarrassing, It
was terrible. It was It was not very good basketball,
which you know, to your point, is kind of misleading
because often the WNBA or high level college women's basketball
is very good basketball. Yeah it's nowhere near men's basketball,
but it's very good basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That was quite a collection of really awful plays.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I was thinking about this a
lot because I really want to be fair on this topic.
You know, it's easy to just be snide and you know,
cynical about it. But as the father of a couple
of girls who took took part in sports various levels,
and a guy who coached girl sports, which was an
experience I absolutely loved and I am staunchly, like enthusiastically

(02:33):
in favor of girl sports.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Here's the disconnect.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Sports, or if you want to sugn European sport is
a lot of different things on different levels.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's exercise, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's learning his skill, it's learning about teamwork, it's playing
at a high level.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Perhaps it's getting a scholarship, maybe at the very highest.
It's popular entertainment.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
But to say that a sport, say the WNBA, is
not very good entertainment, isn't to denigrate anything like below
that on the totem pole. It's still great in a
hundred different ways. But don't pretend it's great entertainment.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's not. I'll give you a perfect example.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I love baseball, the game of baseball, the sport of baseball.
I up until recently, was a big Major League baseball fan.
Nobody goes to college baseball games until you get to
like the college World Series and the elite are trying
to win national championships, and go ahead tohead. You got
an average college baseball game, even some fairly good programs

(03:45):
on a Tuesday afternoon, there are fewer people there than
like a good wing dinger of a high school basketball game.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Sure, people just don't go.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's just for whatever reason, people don't perceive it as
great entertainment. I'm a baseball freak, so I do I
go to games, but I would never ever denegrate what
those baseball players are doing or why they're doing it
or their skills or whatever. But stop pretending that the
WNBA is great entertainment and the only reason it's not

(04:16):
huge like the NBA is because of sexism or racism
or anti lesbian phobia or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's just not great entertainment, So stop it. Stop pretending
it is.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Different topic. As I teased, Uh, what did I say?
This is not going very well or something. Yes, I
was obsessed for a cup of coffee with the idea
of sailing around the world alone.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Oh really, yeah, I've been fascinated by the idea.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know I'm not the guy to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I read books about it, watch documentaries about it, looked
into the skills that would be take they would take
in the best roots. I was really into the idea
for a while.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Were you.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Just fascinated by the idea of it or did you
think I would at least like to consider this.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm not sure I understand the question.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, I'm fascinated by the idea of getting away with
a murder what it would take?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, No, I was actually yeah, No, I was actually
interested in okay, like doing it someday.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah. The thing that turned me off of it is
when I realized how bad my motion sickness is. I
just thought I can't. I can't do it for that reason.
So had I just abandoned it completely, I'd be I'd
be miserable.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know what, I have a I have a question.
I'll go ahead and do it in the thumb style
while you're talking.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, So a guy attempted to do it the other day.
It happens now and then, and it's it's kind of entertaining.
But a guy tried to do it solo, California. Man
took off from Catalina Island would which a big island
just off of Los Angeles, and headed out toward Hawaii,
and a couple of weeks into his journey around the world,

(06:09):
thirty nine year old Kai Sato, the mast snapped on
his sailboat. That would be a bad feeling. The mass
very bad feeling. The mask snapped into He ran out
of gas on the motor, and his phone died, lifting him,
leaving him floating hopelessly outside of shipping lanes and little

(06:32):
hope of coming across a boat.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
On the other hand, Kai, you still got your health. Uh?
No mass, no gas, no radio.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh well, he was licking condensation in the morning, to
try to stay alive because that was the only water
he had, and eating squid that would land on his
boat by accident. Raw. He said. He cried for days
and gave up on the idea of ever being rescued.
His goal was to try to get his motor going

(07:02):
long enough that he could suffocate himself and kill himself.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Could have goals. That was his plan.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And by the way, he stopped crying, you're wasting your
body fluids. Of course, I've never faced death on the Pacific.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'm not sure that was like it. I don't know
if he sat there and decided I cry or not cry.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think I'll cry, or maybe he drank his own tears.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Anyway, And I think this is kind of interesting about
the human spirit. After five days of crying and thinking,
five days is a long time to bob around in
the water licking condensation in the morning. Right after five
day squids, he snapped into action and began to make
shift repairs to the boat with PVC pipes and kayak paddles.

(07:46):
Paddles he was hoping to be seen, and he was
he the wind change or something. He ended up in
a shipping lane rescued by a passing container ship that
were on the way to the Hawaiian Islands, and he
got rescued.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I don't I don't want to be a knee jerk,
armchair hard guy. It reminds me of the kind of
guy who looks at a beautiful woman says she's not
good looking.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He I wouldn't do her. Yeah, you weren't. You won't
do anybody you're not given the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's upset and pathetic, backward boast, and you're embarrassing yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I've always hated that. So for me to say.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It took you five days to think, all right, what
do I have at hand here to craft any sort
of sale?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I've got to admit I'm a little intrigued by that.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, just based on the picture and some of the
things he said. He might not be U the most
normal person, A bit.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Of a condensation liquor. If you ask, can you know
if you don't even know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh, he's a squid eater if I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, holy crap, my mask broke. How do I
erect some sort of sail? I think would be my
first thought.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
No, his first thought was can I get the motor
going enough to suffocate myself?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
And then after five days a weep and thought, wait
a minute, A mast is a long stick. I got
some long, straight things around here.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Let me think. Yeah, I wonder if he's a bit touched,
so he used to say back in the day.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I suppose anybody who sets off the sail around
the world alone is possibly a little abnormal.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I don't have the balls to sail solo across like
a golf course water hazard.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So again, I'm not trying to be the hard ass.
I just I'm a little flabbergasted. I like calamari, which
is squid. I like suit.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I have no problem with raw fish. You'd get fluid
and nutrition. So how does squid accidentally end up on
your deck? Did they just leap in the air a lot?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know. I thought that was kind of interesting too.
He survived on the squid and some other kind of
fish that ended up on his deck. They just fly
out of the water and land on your deck.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I guess, Wow, that's handy.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah it is. Yeh, better luck next time there, Kai
says he's gonna try it again.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I wish sailing was a skill I had learned. I've
got a guy, actually, a train, my trainer, my personal trainer.
You're thinking, get your money back, dude, if you look
at me. He has been into sailing since he was
a little kid, and his kids are into sailing now.
And you start on a little boat, well you start

(10:56):
with help, but then you start on a little boat
that you can control. And as you get bigger, boat
gets bigger, and they have vergattas and races.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And stuff like that. I remember that I took lessons last.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Year, and oh that's right, Yes, how'd that go?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's way harder than it looks, way harder, a tremendous
amount of work to do, and there's nothing relaxing about
it at all. It's constant challenge of figuring because the
wind is shifting every second. I didn't realize there was
that much work to sail, but it is constantly swing
it that way, that way, raise it, lower it, loosen

(11:31):
it up, tighten it up, just never ending to keep
going at all. And I don't know, I just I
had this vision of sailing to where there was a
fair amount of kick back in there. You know, let
the wind take you.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
But glasses Champagne him.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
There's practically none of that, and you got to make
sure that is it the boom or whatever it doesn't
like blast you in the head and the.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yah yea yea yeah. Constantly got a worried about that
thing swinging back and cracking in the back of the head.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
But it's a.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Tremendous amount of work. And I took the classes for
a couple of days and got some certificate of as
a beginning sailor, and I'm not going to try it again.
I just thought it's not for me.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Did you go with the sailor suit.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Like a little boy in wartime or did you go
with the Ted Baxter and Caddyshack blue blazer and captain's hat.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I wore close to keep me from getting sunburned. But
I remember there was a woman, one woman that showed
up to the sailing list, and she did not last
very long. Dressed it was. She was dressed in kind
of a sailor outfit, and she was all excited about it.
I think because I think a lot of people like
her and me kind of have this vision of oh,
on a boat and where you have to put the
sail up and the wind takes you and it's just

(12:40):
we're hanging out on the Boat's No, it's non stop
trying to figure out where the wind's coming from. And
you have to like get used to feeling it on
the back of your head or your face and then
automatically your arms adjusting the sails to where you're feeling
the wind coming from. And I never got I mean
I only tried it for hours. But getting that talent

(13:02):
to where you can feel the wind on your neck,
side of your face, kind of half front of your face,
side of your face, you know exactly where it is
and tacking appropriately is a skill that would Yeah, you'd
want to start it as a kid.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
As a highly skilled golfer, I think I'd be decent
at that because we like try to figure out the
wind every single shot. But you all almost never get
blessed in the head if you're you know, if you
wait too long.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, made me appreciate people who have that skill or
you know, go San Francisco Bay and and realize when
I look out there, that's not some sort of pleasure really,
it's it's like hard work, constant work to do that.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, here here all right. Favorite musical artist who who?
Who writes sailing related songs. There are a few notable ones.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I gotta go Jimmy Buffett.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Jimmy Buffett, Kenny Chesney, his musical cousin.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Friend of friend of Chriss Cross, Christopher Cross not far
down for me, Crosby, Stills and Nash Oh, all three
of them.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Big into sailing, A bunch of different sailing songs.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, google it.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah again, it's it's got. It's got a different vibe
than its reality. I feel like for most people who
have never done it.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Lionel Richie sail on right, my favorite Lionel Richie song, of.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Those constant work and getting hit in the head with
a big beam.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, I picture like the wind's blown that way.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
So you set the sail and you just get pushed
along by the wind.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And you have a drink, look around, sure, sure, eat
a squid or two whatever the book, get thirsty, you
lick a little condensation.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Joe, didn't you get kind of close to this on
Lake Tayo one time you guys got out there.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well that was motor boating, not literally motor not Yes,
yes it was terrible, but you know we were powered
by a gasoline engine.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
As a matter of fact, you know, Styx is another one.
Come sail away. That's not actually anyway.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, they serve to soul some stranded squid and headed
for the sky.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm licking the bowl, beautiful. Well, I guess that's it.
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