November 12, 2025 • 10 mins
The biggest test of the northern tour is coming up on Sunday morning as the All Blacks take on England at Twickenham, in a match that could very well determine if the All Blacks come away with a Grand Slam in 2025.
The All Blacks performed well in patches against Scotland but they'll need to do better to keep up their streak, especially considering England's rugby prowess.
Bryn Hall is a former Blues and Crusaders halfback and current host of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod and he joined D'Arcy to discuss what lessons from the Scotland test the All Blacks need to take with them into this test match.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks edb Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So here is the biggest test of the Northern Tour.
The Iris would have been the biggest test of that
at one, but they didn't right undefeated, So this is
at sort of calamity. This should secure the Grand Slam.
Massive on Sunday morning, live and free here at news
TALKSZB you got Elliott Smith and Agregor Paul with a
call on my Heart radio war on the station itsself.
(00:36):
It's going to be massive. It is the Grand Slam
determination fixture. We know that the All Blacks did a
good job it patches against Scotland, but third courting bit
me need eighty minutes. We all know that the concept
of providing eighty minutes on a regular basis that was well,
(00:56):
I suppose it's lost, isn't it on the All Blacks.
Currently they're looking to I find this fascinating. Gordon pulled
this start out. They need to keep an unbeaten streak
against England twicken and goes back to twenty twelve. It's
(01:17):
quite amazing that be filthy on that the English so
to talk about what they pull out of Scotland and
what they drop down in front of England. We look
forward and back at the same time. This is an
understatement saying it's the biggest game for the All Blacks.
It's England. We love to beat England. We love to
beat South Africa because we respect them and love them
(01:37):
and we know how good they are. We love to
beat Australia because they're the neighbors and they beat us,
and about everything else. We love to beat the English
because we hate them. You go, that's it in the story.
We do not like English rugby. You sit down. So
we're gonna look at the lessons last week against Scotland.
Bryn all joins us. Now Britnan. You saw what unfolded
(01:58):
and you got the wind. But what do you pick
up from that from what you're seeing that you need
to carry forward? And what do we need to know?
What do we need to understand about this match?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Bran, Yeah, I think it's pretty self explanatory if you
look around the discipline issues.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think anytime you have three yellow cards, it'll be
definitely one thing that raisers talking about with their group
to to not give himself that kind of hamstring moment,
because yeah, look, we probably in that first twenty minutes,
we were able to score in that first half, sorry
you know, seventeen odd points and it probably could have
been out a little bit, been more of a comfortable lead.
And I think it's probably been a little bit of
an accurately here of this All Blacks team not being
able to put in eighty minute performances. We've kind of
(02:36):
played in spurts this year. So I think first and foremost,
if we can continue that attack and been able to
get over the advantage line, and it'd be great. But
the discipline issues will be massive for us. And I
think going against England and probably how they have been
playing there nine on the nine on the trot right now,
I believe, so they're going to be full of confidence.
Talking is always a tough place to play at and
so if you're not on our job discipline wise, then
(02:57):
I think it will be it'll be a tough day
for us. But what I did, like Darcy, I really
enjoyed our ability of our boys been able to give
the advantage line. Like I know that Jordy Barrett has
been out for he's going to be out for the
rest of the season, but I think the likes of
quinder Plane and Lessifying and look have really unlocked I
think the attack of the All Blacks because their ability
to get over the advantage line. And I guess with
the substitution of Tossi Tamitter Williams and Wallace of Teth
(03:18):
Peter Larchiy, the amount of ball carriers and the ability
of X factor that we can get over the advantage line,
I think makes it a lot harder for the for
these for these Northern Hemisphere teams in general, to defend us.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
How do you train? How do you teach discipline? What
has to happen in between games for people to wake
up to that? Because if you look at those three occurrences,
you shake your head reaching to the ball when you
know damn well that you could take a skate if
you accidentally knock it on foot, tripping somebody. Where does
(03:50):
that come from? How do you get that player's systems?
I mean you would have experienced this yourself before. You
probably still are poking round for Cabota right now.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Look, I think there are Look, there are always translated.
There is so much work with that with that group
around the referee, how what the referee style is what
their trends are and penalties that they do look at.
And I think in game you have a pretty clear
understanding of like, okay, what what's happening in Okay, knowing.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That, okay, if we are under a penalty advantage.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Here, the leaders or even people in general have a
really good education around being able to be squeaky clean,
as they would say, to knock give way penalties. But
I think the unfortunate thing is they're just kind of
brain of exposures, to be honest, like, you know, they
weren't anything that you think there would be a common
period of a penalty. It was just the individual and
the execution of that time was a very very poor decision.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I actually think it's pretty easy to review Darci.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I think it's a few words here and there to
the individuals, and they would have known straight away, like
Wallace and you know, Lee workout, they would have known
straight away that they won't do that. We won't see
those trends again from them. So yeah, I don't think
it'll be there. I don't think it'd be that hard,
and I think if anything, it will just heighten around
that group and knowing that okay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We can't awagh penalties.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We can't fall into the same trap that we played
worth fourteen men for thirty minutes agains Scotland, because I
think if we do do that, then we put ourselves
in a very tough position of what we did against
Scotland and probably make things a lot harder than we
probably did in the first half when we were a
little bit bit of this discipline wise.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Those decisions or the brain explosions if you described them,
Is that a direct result of pressure in the game,
of reacting poorly when you're not in a comfortable space.
Is it that simple or a brain explosion just one
of those things you just don't know where they're coming.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I think it comes to everything.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I think, you know, the environment, the kind of the occasion,
the situation of what the game is and how it is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I think that does definitely play into it.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Look, I think if you look at probably Wallace as
one we've just been under, you know, with Ardie Severe
being off and I guess the pressure of the momentum
of the how how Scotland were playing. They've been able
to score seventeen and dards appoint them. You can feel
as a player that Okay, they're coming back into the game.
You can hear the crowd, you can feel and it
just feels different than probably what they felt in the
first twenty minutes where things were going things are going
their way, So I definitely feel there's a feeling in
(05:54):
and around it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Those guys that actually did get that did get yellow
car to take away Addie Severe, who's probably the most experienced,
that was probably their first time in their quadron or
maybe the second time with Wallat's been in their quadron.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So a great loan.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Experience for those players, and like I said, no doubt
the coaches beginning to them around what that looked like
for them, how they felt and not being able to
do that again. But I definitely think we'll definitely see
a better discipline all black side, knowing that they had
three yellow cards the week previously.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Another lesson and this is something that you hope the
coaching staff per c carp is, they've been poor in
the last twenty minutes of tests, So the last couple
of years seems to be maybe changing. And this may
be the acceptance from Razor Robertson that it's not a
fifteen man game. It's a twenty three man game and
(06:39):
the effect of his subs are huge and not to
mess with that because what we've got coming off the bench,
especially in Damien McKenzie, has been immense, So to maybe
you just and tweak that during the team naming could
be risky.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I think if you are a player, you want to
be able to play and be able to start. I
think you know your competitors and that's the that's the
expectation you have on yourself and what do you want
to do.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But I think probably for the better that team. You
look around, look you look.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
At South Africa and look at the example of Seculsi
going after going off after forty minutes. He was a centurion,
he's played so many games of expense, but for the
better of the team, they brought some other players on
to be able to know that they could they could
close out the game. So I think it's no different
for this All Black side. And I think, you know,
Damien McKenzie has been so good off the bench, and
I think with what he can do in that last
twenty minutes or when he does come on, he's a
big part of that. And it's not just that you
(07:28):
look probably out Ford Packer well, with the likes of
Tossi to mikeel Williams and what they can bring set
piece wise, the ability to get over the advantage line
when it gets the ball carriers. I think e mcquin
to Paie, even now he is starting, his experience is
coming off the bench and been able to add impact
has been great when he was coming off the bench.
So yeah, I think we're on a no illusion that
it is a twenty three men game. And it's great
to see that the Ablecks this year probably have just
got a lot more just off that bench with the
(07:49):
players that I have talked about and other players that
have been in that bench roll. So I can't see
too much change. And if I'm being completely honest us
I know that that Caleb Clark has in'ted so more
so it's depending that they want to put lesson to
the wing, put a Billy Prop to a center, Angelina
Brown on Rico Juani, or putting Rico Juani.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
On the wing.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I guess those are kind of selection dilemmas that I
think would be the only things you.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Have to worry about with this English selection.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Would it be concerned about the English ability to neggle.
They desperately want to win. They know their I suppose
the All Blacks are slightly delicate with all of those
yellow cards. Do you see them playing maybe a bit
of games in a ship and trying to get reaction
out of this All Black side, such as the heat
of the atmosphere, half Ben, this is what you do
(08:35):
for your for your time.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think it's They're always is, it doesn't matter who
who the team is. But I think it's also the media.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I think whenever you read the papers around the telegraph
or whatever it may be, there's always a bit of
always around there. So whether that's just used and I
guess the English players head, you know, you'd have to
think they're probably not, but I can imagine there would
be a little bit of But I think that they.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Just have confidence.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I reckon look when you go nine games are undefeated,
and I think how they are playing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Look, they're playing a great brand of footy.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think you know, Keys will get a good introduction,
depend on what the weather is going to be in England,
but they've pind a really good brander attacking football. We
know that they can go to set piece and they
also have their contestical games, which I think no doubt
they'll go to that knowing that's been the crypt for
the All Blacks for this year, so I think they'll
married up really And I said, the challenge for them
is can all they want to go all out of tack,
which was what we saw a little.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Bit in the Northern Northern tour to start for this
England side.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
But I'm really interested to see how that brander footed
that they can play, because they can they can change
a bit of it with an attacking brand, but.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Also that contestical games which have been we've been so
used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Britain hall across the tour. So far two games in,
two games to go. Are we're seeing a settling of
the way the All Blacks are playing the game? Do
you think finally, after almost two years in charge, we're
starting to see a Scott Robertson team.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we are. I think we are. Look, I
think the way that we have attacked. I look, I'm
also on the attacking side of it, you know the first.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think we've showed really good good spirits of this
year and I think of this Northern hemisphere, soll you
look at probably that Scottish game.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The ability of us being.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Able to use our big forward to the tipples at
the line, being able to use our footwork, our depth
in our alignment and our animation outside with our backs
and been able to.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Play with ball on the edge.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
We've been able to get that and I guess spurts
through the season and more certain it's all in Hemisphere tour.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So we haven't had an eighty minute performance to be
able to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But then I think, look, if you look on the
defensive side of Tarmany Ellison in a defensive group, we
have changed in around our line, speed, pressure and turning players,
and like if you look at the weekend with Finn Russell,
we know that he's really good when he plays front football.
Let's put a skill set under pressure and get him
to throw those bridge passes with what we saw early
on in that Scottish game. So I think collectively, having
two years in charge, I think on both sides of
(10:38):
the ball we are seeing improvements. But I think for
me not seeing eighty minute performance, we've kind of put
the foot on the throat and been able to really
dominate and I guess have that statement performance. I guess
we probably haven't seen it, that we haven't seen it
yet and hopefully we get to see it against English
side who are very very well, playing very well at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So here is the biggest test of the Northern Tour.
The Iris would have been the biggest test of that
at one, but they didn't right undefeated, So this is
at sort of calamity. This should secure the Grand Slam.
Massive on Sunday morning, live and free here at news
TALKSZB you got Elliott Smith and Agregor Paul with a
call on my Heart radio war on the station itsself.
(00:36):
It's going to be massive. It is the Grand Slam
determination fixture. We know that the All Blacks did a
good job it patches against Scotland, but third courting bit
me need eighty minutes. We all know that the concept
of providing eighty minutes on a regular basis that was well,
(00:56):
I suppose it's lost, isn't it on the All Blacks.
Currently they're looking to I find this fascinating. Gordon pulled
this start out. They need to keep an unbeaten streak
against England twicken and goes back to twenty twelve. It's
(01:17):
quite amazing that be filthy on that the English so
to talk about what they pull out of Scotland and
what they drop down in front of England. We look
forward and back at the same time. This is an
understatement saying it's the biggest game for the All Blacks.
It's England. We love to beat England. We love to
beat South Africa because we respect them and love them
(01:37):
and we know how good they are. We love to
beat Australia because they're the neighbors and they beat us,
and about everything else. We love to beat the English
because we hate them. You go, that's it in the story.
We do not like English rugby. You sit down. So
we're gonna look at the lessons last week against Scotland.
Bryn all joins us. Now Britnan. You saw what unfolded
(01:58):
and you got the wind. But what do you pick
up from that from what you're seeing that you need
to carry forward? And what do we need to know?
What do we need to understand about this match?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Bran, Yeah, I think it's pretty self explanatory if you
look around the discipline issues.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I think anytime you have three yellow cards, it'll be
definitely one thing that raisers talking about with their group
to to not give himself that kind of hamstring moment,
because yeah, look, we probably in that first twenty minutes,
we were able to score in that first half, sorry
you know, seventeen odd points and it probably could have
been out a little bit, been more of a comfortable lead.
And I think it's probably been a little bit of
an accurately here of this All Blacks team not being
able to put in eighty minute performances. We've kind of
(02:36):
played in spurts this year. So I think first and foremost,
if we can continue that attack and been able to
get over the advantage line, and it'd be great. But
the discipline issues will be massive for us. And I
think going against England and probably how they have been
playing there nine on the nine on the trot right now,
I believe, so they're going to be full of confidence.
Talking is always a tough place to play at and
so if you're not on our job discipline wise, then
(02:57):
I think it will be it'll be a tough day
for us. But what I did, like Darcy, I really
enjoyed our ability of our boys been able to give
the advantage line. Like I know that Jordy Barrett has
been out for he's going to be out for the
rest of the season, but I think the likes of
quinder Plane and Lessifying and look have really unlocked I
think the attack of the All Blacks because their ability
to get over the advantage line. And I guess with
the substitution of Tossi Tamitter Williams and Wallace of Teth
(03:18):
Peter Larchiy, the amount of ball carriers and the ability
of X factor that we can get over the advantage line,
I think makes it a lot harder for the for
these for these Northern Hemisphere teams in general, to defend us.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
How do you train? How do you teach discipline? What
has to happen in between games for people to wake
up to that? Because if you look at those three occurrences,
you shake your head reaching to the ball when you
know damn well that you could take a skate if
you accidentally knock it on foot, tripping somebody. Where does
(03:50):
that come from? How do you get that player's systems?
I mean you would have experienced this yourself before. You
probably still are poking round for Cabota right now.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Look, I think there are Look, there are always translated.
There is so much work with that with that group
around the referee, how what the referee style is what
their trends are and penalties that they do look at.
And I think in game you have a pretty clear
understanding of like, okay, what what's happening in Okay, knowing.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That, okay, if we are under a penalty advantage.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Here, the leaders or even people in general have a
really good education around being able to be squeaky clean,
as they would say, to knock give way penalties. But
I think the unfortunate thing is they're just kind of
brain of exposures, to be honest, like, you know, they
weren't anything that you think there would be a common
period of a penalty. It was just the individual and
the execution of that time was a very very poor decision.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I actually think it's pretty easy to review Darci.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I think it's a few words here and there to
the individuals, and they would have known straight away, like
Wallace and you know, Lee workout, they would have known
straight away that they won't do that. We won't see
those trends again from them. So yeah, I don't think
it'll be there. I don't think it'd be that hard,
and I think if anything, it will just heighten around
that group and knowing that okay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We can't awagh penalties.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We can't fall into the same trap that we played
worth fourteen men for thirty minutes agains Scotland, because I
think if we do do that, then we put ourselves
in a very tough position of what we did against
Scotland and probably make things a lot harder than we
probably did in the first half when we were a
little bit bit of this discipline wise.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Those decisions or the brain explosions if you described them,
Is that a direct result of pressure in the game,
of reacting poorly when you're not in a comfortable space.
Is it that simple or a brain explosion just one
of those things you just don't know where they're coming.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I think it comes to everything.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I think, you know, the environment, the kind of the occasion,
the situation of what the game is and how it is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I think that does definitely play into it.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Look, I think if you look at probably Wallace as
one we've just been under, you know, with Ardie Severe
being off and I guess the pressure of the momentum
of the how how Scotland were playing. They've been able
to score seventeen and dards appoint them. You can feel
as a player that Okay, they're coming back into the game.
You can hear the crowd, you can feel and it
just feels different than probably what they felt in the
first twenty minutes where things were going things are going
their way, So I definitely feel there's a feeling in
(05:54):
and around it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Those guys that actually did get that did get yellow
car to take away Addie Severe, who's probably the most experienced,
that was probably their first time in their quadron or
maybe the second time with Wallat's been in their quadron.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So a great loan.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Experience for those players, and like I said, no doubt
the coaches beginning to them around what that looked like
for them, how they felt and not being able to
do that again. But I definitely think we'll definitely see
a better discipline all black side, knowing that they had
three yellow cards the week previously.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Another lesson and this is something that you hope the
coaching staff per c carp is, they've been poor in
the last twenty minutes of tests, So the last couple
of years seems to be maybe changing. And this may
be the acceptance from Razor Robertson that it's not a
fifteen man game. It's a twenty three man game and
(06:39):
the effect of his subs are huge and not to
mess with that because what we've got coming off the bench,
especially in Damien McKenzie, has been immense, So to maybe
you just and tweak that during the team naming could
be risky.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I think if you are a player, you want to
be able to play and be able to start. I
think you know your competitors and that's the that's the
expectation you have on yourself and what do you want
to do.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But I think probably for the better that team. You
look around, look you look.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
At South Africa and look at the example of Seculsi
going after going off after forty minutes. He was a centurion,
he's played so many games of expense, but for the
better of the team, they brought some other players on
to be able to know that they could they could
close out the game. So I think it's no different
for this All Black side. And I think, you know,
Damien McKenzie has been so good off the bench, and
I think with what he can do in that last
twenty minutes or when he does come on, he's a
big part of that. And it's not just that you
(07:28):
look probably out Ford Packer well, with the likes of
Tossi to mikeel Williams and what they can bring set
piece wise, the ability to get over the advantage line
when it gets the ball carriers. I think e mcquin
to Paie, even now he is starting, his experience is
coming off the bench and been able to add impact
has been great when he was coming off the bench.
So yeah, I think we're on a no illusion that
it is a twenty three men game. And it's great
to see that the Ablecks this year probably have just
got a lot more just off that bench with the
(07:49):
players that I have talked about and other players that
have been in that bench roll. So I can't see
too much change. And if I'm being completely honest us
I know that that Caleb Clark has in'ted so more
so it's depending that they want to put lesson to
the wing, put a Billy Prop to a center, Angelina
Brown on Rico Juani, or putting Rico Juani.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
On the wing.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I guess those are kind of selection dilemmas that I
think would be the only things you.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Have to worry about with this English selection.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Would it be concerned about the English ability to neggle.
They desperately want to win. They know their I suppose
the All Blacks are slightly delicate with all of those
yellow cards. Do you see them playing maybe a bit
of games in a ship and trying to get reaction
out of this All Black side, such as the heat
of the atmosphere, half Ben, this is what you do
(08:35):
for your for your time.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think it's They're always is, it doesn't matter who
who the team is. But I think it's also the media.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I think whenever you read the papers around the telegraph
or whatever it may be, there's always a bit of
always around there. So whether that's just used and I
guess the English players head, you know, you'd have to
think they're probably not, but I can imagine there would
be a little bit of But I think that they.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Just have confidence.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I reckon look when you go nine games are undefeated,
and I think how they are playing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Look, they're playing a great brand of footy.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think you know, Keys will get a good introduction,
depend on what the weather is going to be in England,
but they've pind a really good brander attacking football. We
know that they can go to set piece and they
also have their contestical games, which I think no doubt
they'll go to that knowing that's been the crypt for
the All Blacks for this year, so I think they'll
married up really And I said, the challenge for them
is can all they want to go all out of tack,
which was what we saw a little.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Bit in the Northern Northern tour to start for this
England side.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
But I'm really interested to see how that brander footed
that they can play, because they can they can change
a bit of it with an attacking brand, but.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Also that contestical games which have been we've been so
used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Britain hall across the tour. So far two games in,
two games to go. Are we're seeing a settling of
the way the All Blacks are playing the game? Do
you think finally, after almost two years in charge, we're
starting to see a Scott Robertson team.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think we are. I think we are. Look, I
think the way that we have attacked. I look, I'm
also on the attacking side of it, you know the first.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think we've showed really good good spirits of this
year and I think of this Northern hemisphere, soll you
look at probably that Scottish game.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The ability of us being.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Able to use our big forward to the tipples at
the line, being able to use our footwork, our depth
in our alignment and our animation outside with our backs
and been able to.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Play with ball on the edge.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
We've been able to get that and I guess spurts
through the season and more certain it's all in Hemisphere tour.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So we haven't had an eighty minute performance to be
able to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But then I think, look, if you look on the
defensive side of Tarmany Ellison in a defensive group, we
have changed in around our line, speed, pressure and turning players,
and like if you look at the weekend with Finn Russell,
we know that he's really good when he plays front football.
Let's put a skill set under pressure and get him
to throw those bridge passes with what we saw early
on in that Scottish game. So I think collectively, having
two years in charge, I think on both sides of
(10:38):
the ball we are seeing improvements. But I think for
me not seeing eighty minute performance, we've kind of put
the foot on the throat and been able to really
dominate and I guess have that statement performance. I guess
we probably haven't seen it, that we haven't seen it
yet and hopefully we get to see it against English
side who are very very well, playing very well at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
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