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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Little Rush twenty one twelve, as we bring in Daniel
bucks Band, Hey, Daniel, how you doing man?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Very good?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
How are you really good? Listen? I want to talk
about your new book twenty one twelve, fifty years of
course Rush, and I want to get the story on
this because the story that I got on twenty one
to twelve is legendary. Here's what I always heard, and
I want you to confirm or deny this, Okay, I'd
always heard that Rush with the record companies, they said, dudes,
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you got one more shot, turn in something that sells,
or you're gone. We're going to drop you from the label.
So they go in and they could have done something
commercial when poppy and something to stay on the label,
but Rush continued to do things their way. And we're
talking about a twenty minute song to start off the album,
but it went nowhere. And then fans started to listen
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to this album and they started to spread it with
cassettes just recording it, and it was kind of the
first viral album. Is there to any of that or not?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I mean, you know, I mean, when you get more
into the story, you know, it gets a little more
detailed and a little more complex than that. Yeah, you know,
as as that always happens when you look a little
more closely at things. But basically, yeah, that's that's the
elevator pitch, I guess for this story, you know. Uh. Yeah,
they were not in a great position with the label. Uh.
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And they you know, the label absolutely wanted a single
out of them, and you know, to do something that was,
you know, much more commercial than their previous three albums. Uh.
And instead they were like, no, we're going to put
a twenty minute song at the beginning. You know, have
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have songs about smoking pot and you know, all this
all this yeah yeah stuff stuff that's not like you know,
the marketing department's dream, you know. But you're right. I mean,
it did go viral thanks to the fans. And really
the story of Rush has always been that once the
public hears it, once the fans here, it connects and
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it just goes off right from there, you know, right
from the first time Donna Helper played them on WMMS
in Cleveland. The second she put that record on, the
phone's light up. And it's just always been a case
of as long as there's a clear path between Russi's
music and the listeners. It connects, so this and this
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was really a good you know, first case of that
or second case right right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I want to bring some of your books in just
for notation, because you've written some great books. The Encyclopedia
of Heavy Metal, the Encyclopedia of New Wave, The Art
of Brutal Legend, Woodstock, fifty Years of Piece and Music,
Ozzie is seventy five, and now Rush at fifty and
we're celebrating twenty one twelve. How do you pick Rush?
Are you a super fan or how do you pick
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these books? Because they're all written so well, and you've
contributed to other Rocket Roll books. Rock rock music and
music for that matter, has been my entire life. Everything
ties to music, so I consume as much as I can.
And you're a brilliant writer. How do you choose the bands?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, it's it's easy. Just whatever I really connect with
and you know it means a lot to me, and
that I can just talk about forever. That's really that's
the criteria. I have been offered, you know, chances to
write about artists I was not crazy about. I will
not tell you who those were.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Protective question of Daniel.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what I mean, it's right.
If you don't care about it, it's really hard to
dedicate a year of your life to it. And for me,
it's got to be the topic just has to be
something that I can just pour my whole heart into
or it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We're talking to Daniel bucks Band, brilliant author and by
the way, check out his new book. It's Rushed twenty one,
twelve fifty years, so many great books. I got to
ask your opinion, as Rush fan, were you surprised after
we after we lost Neil Getty and Alex released they said,
that's it, that's the end of Rush, and that's what
I thought it would be. But but now we're going
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back out on tour. And tell you the truth, I'm
glad that they're going to go ahead and go out
on tour. It's not going to be the same with
without Neil. But were you surprised that they went ahead
and put a tour together a few years later?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
H Yeah, that was like, honestly the last thing I
was expecting. I did well. I did. I did another
Rush book in twenty twenty four, Rush at fifty and
you know, I went on every every interview, I went on.
You know, I'm pounding my fist against the table, like, no, no, no,
they will never get back together. Forget it, shut up,
it will never happen.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And so now, of course they got back together, and
I have to kind of eat my word. But I'm
really happy about it, and I'm I'm really happy they're
coming back. I think they're such good musicians. They should
just be out there playing.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know, it's a terrific concert. Rush is. I got
to tell you, I hope the fans of all these bands,
especially Rush, after they said no more, but we've lost Neil,
that's it. They're kind of looking and turning their heads
and looking at you, Led Zeppelin, Come on, Plant, you're
still out there, but let's get back to a Rush.
I think it's brilliant that they embrace what could be
considered almost a flaw with their audience. I'm talking about
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not a whole lot of women at a Rush concert.
But you go to a Rush concert and they make
fun of themselves by playing a video highlighting. As a
matter of fact, I took a girl to a Rush concert.
Us thought I was Elvis Presley Daniel.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah right, yeah, No, there have been more women like
in the Rush or a bit. Probably since the nineties,
I would say, like definitely early on for ten years
not it's all dude, absolutely, but that changed and there's
there's actually a pretty significant and fiercely loyal female fan contingent.
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And I mean there's this thing called Rush Con. Oh
what's put on? Yeah, and that's all women putting it on.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
The organizers, yeah, you know. And I mean the women
Rush fans that I know, don't say anything bad about
the band around them because they will. They will come
after you in a way dudes won't. So they're there.
They absolutely show up for them, and so you know,
there may be like forty percent of the audience.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Now, I would say author Daniel bucks Ban is our guest. Great,
he's a great author and the book he's talking about
right now with me. And thank you again for coming
on because I saw you wrote this book Rush twenty
one twelve fifty years I got to ask you. I
think it's I think it's incredible that we told the
story of twenty one twelve. They should have been dropped
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from the label immediately, but yet now forty million albums sold.
I had the pleasure of meeting Rush before one of
their shows, and this was I forget which true it was.
But regardless of about ten fifteen years ago, the only
two that came back to meet people. Of course Geddy
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and Alex Neil did not. And I think it was
Track when he lost his daughter. The story of that
is so heartbreaking. But the guy, he just picks up,
He gets on his motorcycle, he takes off with a
couple of pairs of clothes and he's gone for Like,
how long was he gone? Tell the story of that
or can.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You Oh, he was gone for about a year and yeah,
and you know, it wasn't really the digital age like
it is now, so you know, no one could just
call him on his iPhone and be like, hey, dude,
where are you. You know, people didn't know where he
was for a long time, like he was just gone.
He would like occasionally send postcards like every couple of
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months or every few weeks or something like that, just
to kind of let people know, you know, I'm I'm around,
I'm alive, but I have to do this. And he
I think he ended up going like to the Arctic
Circle and all the way down to the tip of
South America. Like it was. It was an entire connected
thing through North and South America. And then he comes
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back and he calls the guys up and he's like,
I'm an unemployed drummer. But yeah, he needed to just
kind of disappear for a while and just cope, you know.
And I mean, I don't know how I would handle
that kind of a situation either. So yeah, I get it,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I understand I do one hundred percent as well, Daniel.
But you know, just the thought of a rock star.
I got to tell you he is a rock star
because every drummer looks up to Neil Pert, they look
at they look at the drum kit alone, and he
takes somebody his iconic, iconic stature, and he just hops
on a motorcycle with a couple of pairs of clothes
and he's gone for a year. But my point was,
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I don't think he I don't think you don't ever
get over the law of the child. But I don't
think he did that well coping even later in life.
And we've lost him, God rest his soul. But I
don't think he was the same.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
No, I mean, I you know, I mean I never
met him. I can't say, you know, for sure, but
I mean I kind of I sort of get what
you're saying. And you know, it's I don't I don't
see how. You know, it wasn't just his daughter. His
wife died a year later, less than a year later,
and you know, I mean, I can't even imagine what
that must be like. And you know, the fact that
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he came back at all in whatever state, to me
was amazing. It was amazing. But it, yeah, it seemed
it seemed like I don't know, I just I don't
see how something like that could not change you. And uh,
you know, but I'm just I'm happy, you know that
he got married again and they had they had a child,
and you know, and they have given their blessing for
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the tour, you know what I mean. I'm I'm just
happy that in that last chapter, you know, when he
after he came back, I'm glad he found some peace
and you know, he found you know, love and was
able to start a family again. I'm glad he had
that experience. It's just such a shame that it was
taken from him so quickly after he retired, because he
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was really looking forward to just family. Man, I know,
but we got what we got, you know, And that's
how it goes.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Name of the author. You got to love this guy,
Daniel Bucks band. Check out his books, but particularly check
out this one Rush in twenty one to twelve fifty
years later. Hey Daniel, any idea. I hate to put
you on the spot, and maybe you don't have an
answer on this, and that's okay, but you just finished
one book. You got to take a sigh of relief.
Any idea on who the next band might be that
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you're going to look into.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, that's already done. If a book coming out in
November called Heavy Metals Big four and it's about Metallica, Anthrax,
Slayer and Megadeath, And then I'm thank you, yeah, And
I'm working on something else for that comes out in
twenty twenty seven, but I cannot reveal the nature of
this project.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
John Oudens, let's get him. Let's water board and get him,
get it out of him. Hey Daniel Bucks, here you go,
thank you so much for all the books in the past,
and mego and thank you for this brilliant book. On
Rush twenty one, twelve fifty years later, go to your
local bookstore Amazon, where the usual suspects are. Daniel, thank
you for the time I reached out and you were
you were nice enough to come on. God bless you
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and thank you so much. My friend.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Hey, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
There you go, Daniel bucks Ban can't wait for that
Iron Maiden Slayer book.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Iron Maiden was not in there.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Oh no, we don't speak of the.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Megant Anthrax. Yeah right, Shady Rays Baby, I wore my
Shady Rays aviator. Listen, heads up color Rush in today.
I want you to go by the Oxmore Center and
ask to try on the color Rush. The text. I
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don't know how they do this, but all of the
colors are so much more brightened, vibrant. I gave it
to w A. M Z's Austin Montgomery to wear on
his honeymoon. He says, Wow, the ocean was incredible. Go
and ask for the color Rush and then try them
on in your style. I promise you're going to love them.
And if you lose them, if you break them, if
you scratch them, they replace them. Shady Rays in the
Oxmoor Center. Online is Shady Raise dot.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Com breaking news? Oh, Paron Johnson, just send this to
me Louisville will be without star freshman mckel brown junior
in the opening weekend of the NCAA Tournament. The school
announced he's been dealing with back injury. Will not will
not play Thursday against number eleven South Florida. That is
awful news.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And John William Auden the third Yeah, who said that
that probably is going to happen on the very first break?
Speaker 7 (12:53):
What, yeah, man, I didn't say it was probably happen.
I said, I caught it. You all did a sports
segment the Whole House fifteen. What was the guy's name again,
mckail brown.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's who I said, will not playing the first weekend
because of an injury back.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
After this news radio eight forty wha is.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
A little anthrax time ticking away? Right, got a time
time to get him out here?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
All right, Welcome back a news radio eight forty wha
as Tony and White Chow brought you by the Kentucky
Office of Highway Safety. Please buckle up and put the
phone down. We just broke news from a national a
sores sent from our coworker parent Johnson. Mckail brown will
not will not play against South Florida. Yeah, on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
If you listen to the show. If you were around
in the first hour when Tony was not, John will
vouch for me. I predicted that he did.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
He also thought Kentucky was playing Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Non ab this stop, man, you can tell the whole story.
I didn't have my vision first. Did I wear on?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Nope? He couldn't read you.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Know what you how like Genesis. It's not a watch,
it's a time piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna start
calling these my visual piece. Listen. I didn't have my
visual piece on and I couldn't read it correctly. Since
I did, I knew it was Santa Claus, probably slightly.
Story schools play stuff like Ted Henderson and Mike Johnson
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and Santa Claus.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
It's a big deal because this kid will go in
the top ten in the NBA Draft. He's a difference
maker at the end of games where he can just
take games over. It definitely. It makes the margin of
error way smaller for Louisville. So that game is at
one thirty. We'll have the Kentucky game the next day
at twelve thirty. We'll go till ten thirty on News
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Radio eight forty whas did you ever go to U
of l and the planetarium with like your school, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well not our school, but we used to what we
used we used to go when they had Pink Floyd
Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Oh, that's right, they did that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
And so what we would do is we would take
party favors. Well, no, pig Floyd the planetarium. You gotta
have party favors. And then we would go in and
we would lay back and watch the pig Floyd show.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
John, did you No, I didn't know they have one.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
There was more a w K you than I went to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I was.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I was all, as a matter of fact, let's get
a group together and see if we can get done
to do a pain by Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Well it's closing, so they're they're they're permanently closing the
Genes Science Hall and Roush Planetarium. It's not that the
tech massacre. Guy, No, the planetarium operated to a financial deficit,
requiring significant university subsidies annually. What what university Okay, what
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part of the university runs out a profit?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Okay, oh wait, you mean University of Lobos having financial troubles.
Maybe they should raise tuition.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Maybe they should protest some more yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, let's unpacked this. Let's see.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well they closed it during the pandemic in twenty twenty,
never opened it again.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, but hang on the hell let's look at the
timeline and see when it stopped being profitable. All right,
they're showing uh, Jupiter this week, Neptune, Uranus. Oh there's
a spike when they showed Uranus. Uh oh, okay, here
it is. It looks like ever since they stopped the
Pink Floyd shows, revenue went down.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
You know what it was, you know it was. It
was the what's the dome thing in Vegas? The sphere
is the sphere before the sphere.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's the big it's big sphere. Took them out right.
They know it was neat.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
It's a neat thing. It was a different perspective obviously.
Now what.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Note to self, open up planetarium next week. Okay, there
you go.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
But you could do a smaller version of the sphere
because that's what it is. And I think, even though
you're being an idiot, a lovable idiot, thank you. Uh,
you're right, why didn't they change it up a little
bit and do stuff like that?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Because, let me tell you, in the eighties when they
show Pink Floyd.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah, there is some other stuff you could show on
there that would be tripping.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
No, absolutely, not that way, not like you see the
kids on ships using their.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Oh but you can play Star Wars or something on there,
and people would go pay. Those nerds will pay for anything.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, usually in outfits Susan and I, A lot of
people have canopies over their hot tubs.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We don't because we like getting ourselves the covered hot
tub and a clear eye. Oh yeahs yeah, and seeing
the Big Dipper and Mickey Mouse and other constellations.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Well, there has been a lot of pilot gups, pilots
that have requested that you build something over that they're
tired of looking down showing off. That's that's that's clear.
Well yeah, all right. So the bad news on Michael Brown,
bad news on the Gaen It's it's been closed, So
I guess they're just going to tear it down.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
The planetarium is shutting down.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
You know the cost of reopening facility, which needs a
significant investment of new equipment.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
How much is the new equipment? Come on, dude, how much?
Because in the eighties, how much was a planetarium projector
you probably get on an Amazon. Let me go on
Amazon Sea.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
You get a digital one for pretty cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I just I want to go on Amazon see if
I can buy a planetarium.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Go ask a fourteen year old. They'll build one for you, right,
all right, So that's that's done. So Michel Brown two
U of L stories. Mickel Brown is not playing Thursday
tomorrow in the NCAA game against South Florida, and U
of L will permanently close the Genes Science Hall and Planetarium.
That's we all as kids, if you're our age, went
to that thing with our schools pretty well. And I
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think there's albino squirrels there there are I think so yeah,
I think there's albino squirrels that are around the green Center.
Did anyone and they got to ask the albino squirrels
and they got red eyes that I don't know that
they do.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Have red eyes.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Man, must be scary at night.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well shoot laser beams. You're serious, No, I'm not. I'm
being serious, dude. There's I'll buy it all red eyed
squirrels and they shoot laser beams out of them.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
But they're right around the Greenes Planetarium right, Am I
wrong by that?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Let's stop calling it the Genes Planetary I think it's
offensive to the planetary eds. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, it's the ed Gan Planetarium.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Why it's a Gaenes scigened planetarium. That's the name of it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
It's offensive.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
You're offensive.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You are.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
See how much happier he is. He's has his chocolate
chip pancake.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
All right, you know after this, you know what you
are what you're a planet fobe and you're misogynistic. Alison Bodenhausen,
thank you so much, man, well, thank you. And also
I'm a little bit irritated last.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Saw video they were torturing you.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, they were helping me with my therapy. That's not torture.
That's advancement. Here's what I am mad about. The doctor.
Let it slip in front of my wife and I
can cut the grass again.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
Oh dude, patience, doctor doctor Solomon. Come on, doctor Michael Solomon.
Does the hippopotamus oath mean anything to you?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Now?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I gotta cut the grass all week, all all summer.
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Wednesday's Hero. So we're going to play that here in
about three minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm in the planetarium listening to Breathe by Pink Floyd.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I want to mess up is we didn't get to
talk about this, and I'll bring it up tomorrow. Addie
Addie from Margant, I'm sorry. WDRB says, wait stop, how
did you get Margan? I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know where else going, I don't know. The
music is messing me up, and you're waving your head
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around like an idiot, and I just can't concentrate.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Happens you listen to Pink Floyd.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
So again, remember last week when JACPS said they're going
to fire all the twenty eight thousand dollars workers at
the elementary schools and hire forty one back at double
the salary made no or twenty one back, which made
forty two.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
We find out that in the story at WDRB, and
you can go look at it Yearwood. The superintendent has
a driver that costs sixty thousand dollars a year, and
he has a seven hundred and fifty dollars a month
car allowance which goes to the tune of sixty nine thousand,
So that is one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars
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for getting the superintendent wherever he needs to be.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, the superintendent yesterday said that, well, it's not just
for me. It's only part of the guy's job, right,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Yeah, of course I can say that a chat about anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And he doesn't use him all the time. I think
he only is is the driver in the car and
that's it.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
So it's not like so on top of his three
hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's just right there's I mean, come on, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Wouldn't you look at that and say, okay, we're getting
rid of the car allowance and we're getting rid of
the driver. That's all undred to twenty nine thousand. What's next?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You sent me a tax last night. My response to
you was, why do I pay taxes? Why do I
pay taxes on a federal and by the way, let's
go ahead unpacked. The federal income tax was a temporary
measure of only three percent. It was supposed to be
put in place just as a temporary measure to.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Help But they but I want you to put the
mindset together. They were ready to cut the programs for
the disabled kids, right, and didn't even look at the
sixty thousand dollars driver.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, that's what they do. What the car a child
has disability? He said, well, you know, we could either
raise your property taxes or Timmy here is going to
have to go without oxygen. What do you think about that, Timothy?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
And I want pay and I want to know. I
want to know if they fired the lobbyist that cost
six hundred thousand dollars a year or whatever, and then
they spent another it was a total of a millionllion
dollars or more for a lobbyist, which they already have
people lobbying for them in Frankfort anyway, So why do
you have this person? Did they get rid of that?
Because that's almost a million dollars reported by WDRB right there.
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It's insane, all right? If what what are we doing?
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Speaker 6 (24:44):
This is Wednesday's Hero on news radio eight forty Whas.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
As a teenager, my interests were surfing, hot.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Rods and chasing girls. But in my.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Family you always heard stories about warriors, because we Hawaiians
live in a warrior culture. Kids from my generation accepted
you were going to serve.
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I was sent to Fort.
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Sam Houston and trained as a combat medic. Most of
my class got assignments to Vietnam, but I landed at
the Presidio in San Francisco. After a while, I started
to ask myself, am I worthy? So I submitted a
request for transfer to Vietnam. The company first sergeant thought.
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I was crazy.
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I knew that, but I also knew I needed to
prove myself. They assigned me to a long range reconnaissance platoon.
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The number one job was staying alive. As a medic,
you are.
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Responsible for the health and welfare of every guy in
your platoon on patrol. I never hesitated to be one
of the first guys flying, firing my weapon. After a while,
you feel invincible, no matter what kind of horrors you've seen.
I was on Mandatory R and R when my unit
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went in to help some Green Berets and got overrun.
Eighteen of my buddies ended up killed or missing an
action on Mother's Day nineteen sixty eight. The worst thing
as a grieving parent is not knowing about the last
moments of your kid's life. So when I got back home,
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I found my friend's families and did what I could
to offer comfort.
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I got married to a wonderful woman, Adele.
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We had two amazing sons. Nioah was our eldest. His
name means he who is without limits. He was born
a knight of a full harvest moon. When he was twelve,
I took him to the Vietnam Memorial Wall and showed
him the names of the men I'd served with.
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He grew up knowing their stories.
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Later, we went to watch the Changing of the Guard
at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Nioah decided right
then he wanted to be a soldier. Joined the Junior
ROTC program, enlisted, aced Navy dive school, past ranger school.
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The first time nobody does that Finally, he became a
first lieutenant for the twenty fifth Infantry Striker Unit. Nioah
loved serving. He gave everything to his guys. Moso Iraq
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in two thousand and five was a dangerous place.
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Twenty four to seven combat.
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Saturday, January twenty second, Ninoah and his team were securing
a polling place. An enemy sniper identified him as the
platoon leader. The bullet tore through a gap in Ninoah's
blackjacket and pierced his aort. Up a medic work to
keep his heart pumping, they raced through the streets to
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the aid station.
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None of his guys would leave. They just stood out
in the rain waiting.
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A trauma nurse found Ninah's pulse and sent him to
the operating room, but nothing could be done.
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The day he was killed, there was a full move.
Even now. Whenever his men see a full moon.
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Immediately they say that's our lieutenant. For me and Adele,
the world just stopped. I was numb in disbelief. Adele
was incredibly strong. Our youngest son, Nicola, was set to
deploy to.
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A rap but flew home instead. He lived up to
his name.
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He who is courageous in the way he dealt with
his brother's loss and shared our grief. After being a
soldier in Vietnam, I thought, I knew I lost meant.
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But let me tell you.
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Until your son is killed in combat, you don't have
a clue.
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I had a button.
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Made with Nanomah's picture and the words my hero to
wear every day. In May two thousand and five, I
was scheduled to speak at the Memorial Day ceremony at
the Vietnam Wall. That morning, I presented traditional Hawaiian lays
to two nurses who'd served in EROPT and were being
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honored at the Women's Memorial. I welcomed this young woman,
Paula Coughlin, and started to put the lay over her head.
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She grabbed the button.
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On my chest and said, I know him.
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That's my son. I said, I was his trauma nurse.
I was with him when he died. We were both speechless.
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Finally, I said, what a miracle, what a blessing to
meet you. She told me how all forty of Ninah's
guys knelt around his bed and prayed, how she held
his hand in his last moments, how she would never
forget his face.
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I told Paula I knew deep in my heart that
everything possible had been done to save my son's life.
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That day at the wall, I shared nnahs story with
the families gathered there in front of those fifty eight
thousand names. Every year it gets harder to talk about
Naoah's death. I see the young kids who were part
of my son's platoons suddenly growing up, becoming parents, becoming fathers.
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That's what hurts the most. My son was the best
soldier I ever knew.
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I've been able to serve him by sharing his legacy
with youngest soldiers. I tell them about Nainoah and his
battle buddies, about the men I fought with in Vietnam,
and the eighteen guys I lost, sixteen of them now
buried in US soil, because people need to hear those stories.
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Each year, on Memorial Day, Adele and I pause to
remember the young men and women whose lives were cut short,
their futures extinguished, along with their hopes.
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And dreams of their loved ones. At home, we honor
them by.
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Saying their names and remembering the special moments in the
lives of our heroes that brought us the most joy.
Ahui Ho Nanaah until we meet again.