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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
How you doing?
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know what the lead story is started on Friday and
as the weekend progressed, a lallmaker's got in nemus. I
saw on television this now is a national news. I
saw it on ABC of because this is an example
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that's going on in a lot of cities, is letting
folks out that have time, that are in prison and
then they do something. So that's what's happened here. I'm
sure everyone has learned about the story, but if not,
we're going to go over it for you. Armand Langford
should have never been on the street. The man suspected
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of robbing in East Louisville bank and abducting three people
on August eighth, that was Friday, had a fourteen year
prison sentence drop by District Judge Jessica Green a year
earlier court show prior to the alleged abduction and robbery.
And by the way, this was a violent, very violent
abduction sort of this thing you would see on not
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on a television show on network, but like Netflix, where
you're like, wow, that was violent. That's what happened yes
on Friday to this poor family that he terrorized.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And some of the facts are in I didn't realize
this until Saturday night when I got a text. I
know the husband and the father of the wife and
the child.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's Louisville. We're one degree away. You do too, Yes,
I did you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who it was? And without the family's consent.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm not going to talk about it, but I will say,
if all the details of this horrific crime that went
on Friday because of Judge Jessica Green, it's on her shoulders.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
If details come out, people are gonna be horrified.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I don't know the process, Okay, so I don't
know why he would be up for shock probation. Shock
probation usually are four people, uh like d Wys, things
like that that people don't even remember and not they
didn't do it mostly on purpose and accidents happened, but
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they're still charged. Langford was sentenced on February twenty twenty
four and in July was granted shock probation. And here's
the deal. She's supposed to serve fourteen years, so they said,
you know what, you can get out now and as
long as you stay good for five years, this goes away. Goy,
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it's pathetic, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Really, I don't know what these Louisville judges, what they're infatuation,
what their love affair is with violent criminals.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And I will never understand.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Why these judges hate the victims and hate the victims' families.
But these actions certainly would dictate that behavior. It would
because the Jeff let me tell you one thing. The
Jefferson County court system is not set up to protect
the victim. It's one hundred percent there to protect the offender.
And they demonstrate this day after day after day. Every
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time there's a violent crime. All you got to do
is wait, let's find out if this person should be
out on the streets.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, and even.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
If you were thinking about shock probation, I don't understand why.
What's the terms of why you would do that? Secondly,
why after five months, like it's fourteen years, after five years, okay,
maybe that's a discussion. But after five months, from February
to July, he's out on the streets and it didn't
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take him long. Here he is with this incredible crime.
We started to get the notifications on our phone that
there was because you know, that's Saint Matthew's, that's Linden,
So we're all like, what's going on there. We were
all talking about it this weekend and then the details
started to come out and he just he broke into
this house, took this family hostage. And we'll get the
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details out a little bit later, but Whipsville Road is
where this happened, and the bank is across the street.
That's where the Toyota Oxmore Toyota and then Oxmore Center
and then that bank has been there for fifty years PNC.
I believe. Yeah, it's in there forever since I was
a kid. So and he tried to get her to
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pull out twenty thousand dollars through a drive through window,
demanded cash, and then it's it's an amazing, unbelievable story.
And that's why it's national because you're just going why
why could this happen? I think partly because we have
tried to normalize crime.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like the judges in Louisville have. I mean, yeah, oh,
that's a job.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Drug dealing is not a job.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A job hurting a family of six, that's a job.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's that's that's not a job. That's that's not a job.
Even with going back to the Brianna Taylor, her last
two boyfriends were drug dealers, and I remember people making
the case of well, that's that's a job. What do
you everyone's a drug dealer. It's like, that's your argument.
So we will have someone on it. Who do we
have on at nine thirty five that's running for judge?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
No, she's not.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No, No, it's Christine Miller. She's coming on. She has
a website called Judgie and I want to follow her.
You might want to follow her on Instagram and all
the social media platforms as well, because she does interesting videos.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What she'll do is she'll go on.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
A random let's say a Wednesday, all right, She'll show
up to the courthouse and say, oh, today there should
be x amount of judges on the bench. We came
in and we took attendance. Thirty percent of them are here,
the rest of them are gone.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Is that a normal number? You're throwing thirty out there?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, No, we'll get it from her. I remember one
day there was there was like thirty percent in attendance
on one of the videos she did. That is an
actual number. But she does it all the time. This
comes out and she just she's exposing. She's doing what
any citizen should be able to do. Let me tell you,
I tried to look up one of these pathetic judges
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that released somebody, and you remember this.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Took you all day long, and you got wrong information.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
At the end, six hours of my life in invested
in this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, and then at the end I had the wrong name. Yes,
it shouldn't be that hard.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Let me tell you, back when I was in prison
industry that's been a decade or more way more, there
was a system called cool Kool Kentucky online offender look up.
I wouldn't even need to have the entire name. I
could go in there with partials and find out where
an inmate was right, crime was. There's no reason, there's
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no reason we the people shouldn't have transparency and find out, huh,
what pathetic judge went ahead and shock probated this violent,
violent criminal.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I get it. If someone has never done that
before and this is out of their character and they
want to give them shock probation after half a sentence
or whatever, right, maybe that makes sense. Well, they've he's
never been violent this one, this guy has been violent.
You could have predicted this very easily. And I and
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she's I would hope have to have some sort of
statement today.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know. I have no idea. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
If she did make a statement, it won't in my opinion,
I doubt it's going to be a true statement as
to why she did this.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And then how long I know that Pagentini has called
for her to be impeached. I know that Jason Nemus,
the whip in Frankfurt, said hey, we're going to start
looking at these because House Bill five, the Safer Kentucky Act,
was supposed to prevent this, but you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Know what had but this was pre Safer Kentucky Act.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so this shouldn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well in theory, but I mean we've got we've got
a broken hall of justice. I mean, we have a
pathetic hall of justice.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Anybody disagrees.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And then right behind that, we have a pathetic County
Attorney's office.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I think the left and the right yeah, well yeah,
and it's his last.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Year, so those are my opinions, right, the County Attorney's office,
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And it's his last year and hopefully or his last term. Sorry,
so hopefully we can get somebody in there that's going
to be tougher on this. And again, if something, if
somebody wants to give me information that makes sense of this,
now they'll say the left will say that violent crime
has been down is down over the last thirty years dramatically.
But if that's the case, then there should be room
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in the jail. If there's room in the jail, then
why are you trying to get this guy out. If
it's overpopulated, this guy's not shouldn't be on the list. Right,
Let's look for I don't know, marijuana charges. Let's get
those guys out out of the prison first, and if
you need room, but I don't know if what information? Again,
what do I always say, give me a little bit
of information that makes this make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well you can't. And let two things on this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
If you notice when after this scumbag was apprehended, which
by the way, way to go St. Matthew's Police way
to go LMPD. Yeah, man, thank you, thank god. Yeah,
Saint Matthews. Don't mess around.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So when this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Trash got arrested, people started posting his priors and his
mug shots and all that. There were so many mugshots. Yeah,
it looked like a page out of a yearbook.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Where where the whole page of people.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, like if like fifteen twins were in the same
class or something and they were all violent crimes, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So number two, if you're going to shock probate somebody,
can they really show signs of good behavior in five months?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So this person now has he should have his original
fourteen year prison sentence. Correct, So now you are back
in jail with your fourteen year prison sentence, and now
whatever this is going to put on top of that,
he probably should never see the outside world again. Right, Well,
in theory, if you already have fourteen years and then
you have this where you you're kidnapping, I don't know
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what has happen.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
If we had a legitimate courthouse, yes, but here's what's
frustrating here.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You got a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Multiple multiple, multiple, multiple violent crimes. Three take some machete
to a woman and children.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, okay, he gets shot probated.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now let me give you this, and I could promise
you this is the way this would go down.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm a good guy with a gun.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If a good guy with a gun would have been
at PNC and shot this piece of trash, the Louisville
court system would go after him with extreme prejudice and
try to get him crucified.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, I'll promise you that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I also want to think and pray, because this guy
should get life after this event, because the family has life. Yeah,
the kids have this insane murder film movie in their
head the rest of their life. The mom and the
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kids will need therapy for the rest of their lives.
And they will have issues that will continue in their
lives that they will take to them And when the
kids get older and have partners, they're they're going to
pass those along. And it is that's what we all
lose in this, is that the kids will have a
lifetime of this to deal with.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're definitely going to be suffering from PTSD. I hope
not God forbid, but if I were a betting man,
you can't go through something like that as a child
and have it leave your mind.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Armand Langford is his name, And we will talk more
about this and in about twenty minutes with someone that
keeps an eye on the judges, and she does a
fantastic job. We've had her on before and she's done
a great job. She's trying to keep on top of
how many judges actually show up to work and how
many do not. And there are there's district court, there
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is family court, there are all circuit court. There's all
different types of courts. So it's it's it's hard to navigate,
and I believe that they keep it complicated for that reason.
It's not complicated or simple to fix. I don't know
if it's simple to fix, but I don't think they
would want to to keep it complicated. So the public
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really can't get a good eye on.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It right, almost as if they're covering for each other.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm not saying that's what's going on, but I'm just saying, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Make this make sense that you're sending you're sending people home.
I mean this, this goes at least this guy actually
could run around the other guys that they were sending
out were you know, give them an ankle bracelet and
they're going home. Like the the LNPD officer that got
ambushed by two guys that were inside a house that
had ankle bracelets on and it wasn't even involving the
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stop that that he was on. He got shot from
a house because these two bags in there, we're shooting
at the police officers just for fun. Yeah, So it
goes even deeper to that, We'll give them an ankle brace
itt until we can get the court or whatever. It's
it's insane, Hey, Jefferson County Hall of Justice.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You always say this BS line if we try to
be compassionate and we don't have a crystal ball, and
I promise you. That's probably what we'll be put out
in the statement is we don't have a crystal ball.
My point exactly, if you don't have a crystal ball
and you want to be compassionate, just one time, just once,
try to be compassionate for the victims family and not
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the criminal, not the violent criminal that you all love
to celebrate and have a love affair with. Just one time,
just one time. If you don't have a crystal ball,
try to be compassionate for the victim and the victim
family instead of the violent.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Criminals, and that once, and I would not Some of
the police officers have nicknamed the circuit court freedom Hall.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We will have the mayor on eleven thirty to see
what his statement is. I don't know if he'll have
a press conference before that. I bet that maybe before
or after our show that he will. So he was
supposed to come on on Friday, we got it mixed
up and Monday made more sense. So he just happens
to be here today, not for that specific reason. But
we'll take your phone calls also at ten am.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
We'll take your phone calls at eleven am, right before
the Mayor. We're going to have majority whip Jason Nemus
and then two of the authors of Sayer Kentucky Act,
Jared Bauman and Susan Tyler Whitten, will be on with us.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And at nine thirty.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Christine Miller with Judgy dot Com joins us to give
her opinion. And she's the one that is God lover.
She's the one that spends all of this time researching.
And let me tell you, I did it on one case. Yeah,
and it about drove me nuts.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, that's why they keep it complicated. That's why they
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They want to wear you down. First of all, when
you call.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
This is what happens when you call, you get the
phone call, or at least my experience on John, I'm sorry, yes,
And could you open your mouth and maybe speak?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Makes the DMV look all right, So we'll take a
break here. We also have a couple of stories. Texas
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investing twenty five million in their home office. That is
great news for Louisville. Kentucky's Fair opens up on Thursday,
and there was a statement issued by the Kentucky High
(16:30):
School Athletic Association to coaches only this weekend after scrimmage
is and many fights on the field and in the
stands because that's what we do in high school sports
these days. So we'll talk about that subject also, not
just this one today.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So all right, that's good to hear about Texas Roadhouse.
I just want to recognize Texas Roadhouse as one of
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get the Texas Roadhouse concert series where we get all
of these free concerts, all of these free concerts of
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That's from the text Roadhouse. But the stuff that this
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organization does behind the scene, just the stuff that I
see that never gets out there is incredible thing. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Awesome back after this on news Radio eight forty wa chance,
all right, welcome back news Radio eight forty wha. Yes,
it's that Tony and Dwighthow brought you by the Kentucky
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Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well right, familiar with this show? No, I had a icebreaker.
Hang on, let me get a shot a team.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, thank you for that. All right, We're gonna get
into the nuts and bolts and maybe some facts here,
facts of the case.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yes, if you listen to the show, you know for
nine years Tony and I have been saying, listen, we've
got trouble with our judges, and it gets worse and
worse every single years. I bring in our first guest,
Christine Miller. You know her from the podcast The Judge
Mental Podcast as in judge.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And then mental as in What's wrong with you mentally?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And then podcast also judge dot com.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Good morning, How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I'm great?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
How are y'all really good?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
First and foremost, I want to say thank you for
what you're doing, because I tried to investigate just one
case of a violent criminal reoffending and I literally spent
six hours in mile life and then got the wrong answer.
So I want to say I know I say all
that say this, I know how difficult it is to
get the truth out of the Hall of justice, and
(20:11):
I want you to speak about that. But I also
want you to talk about you do something. And by
the way, follow her on social media. She'll give you
the tags you do something called roll call yes. And
on one of these I saw that thirty percent of
the judges were only in attendance. Talk about where they
confines you, and talk about this roll call first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
So I practice for fifteen years public defender and then
have my own firm. We started judging with Hugh Barrow
twenty years in litigation. It's Judge dashwy dot com and
the Judgmental Podcast. We want to talk about the good judges,
the bad judges all of it in between, and we
I am extremely concerned that the media does not take
the judiciary seriously.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, you're correct, we see.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Very inaccurate reporting coming out. For example, this case with
Judge Jessica Green. I mean the fact that the judge's
name wasn't mentioned. I don't have court documents, which take
about forty five seconds to get access to. I've reviewed them,
and I think it's important to look at the facts
of the case and not just jump to immediate talking
points on either side.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And it's easy to do that. So the novice like
Dwight and I either have been covering this for nine years,
we jumped to how is it possible this guy got
shock probation? But overall, on your thoughts and we'll get
to what you do with the website in the podcast.
But armand Langford tell me what your thoughts were after
you've dived into this.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Truly shocking for a plethora of reasons. First and foremost,
Jessica Green. Judge Jessica Green is very smart. I was
shocked to see this. I practice as a public defender,
thousands of cases observed, thousands, tens of thousands of cases,
probably ten fifteen twenty judges in criminal court. You were
talking about a man that allegedly had significant substance abuse
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issues and psychiatric issues being granted shock probation on nineteen
crimes that involve either a weapon or physical force on
random victims. I have never seen anything like it, and
I've reached out to the Department of Public Advocacy members
that I used to work with, and I do not
know a criminal attorney that's ever seen something like this.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You mentioned that your opinion of Judge Jessica Green is
is she's smart. You and I have different opinions when
it comes to that. I know for a fact about
the criminal past, and she did to the nineteen violent crimes.
Help me make sense of this. If she's smart, why
would she make that decision? Because and I know what
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she'll say. All these judges always say, we don't have
a crystal ball, we can Well, if you don't have
a crystal ball, to my point exactly, err on the
side of caution, why would you let a nineteen time victim,
a loser of violent crimes.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Out Well, I can't engage in this conversation about this
crystal ball. Okay, that is a talking point. That is
utilized to defend when bad behavior. Quite frankly, I mean,
I'm a girl that loves Vegas and I love to bet,
and I'd put my mortgage up that a man that
has a modus operanda of robbing random people with a
weapon would reoffend. Especially we haven't even got to the
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point that he was probated to ninety days of home incarceration,
live with your mommy, follow your mommy's rule, and attend
out patient treatment.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Back up to say that again, I'm sorry, Back up,
you went pretty fast there. The worms the terms of
his release were what so the.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Terms of his probation and I have posted that on
Kentucky Christine on TikTok and done a breakdown of it,
and I will post it on my substack. But essentially
it's a three page document. Apparently there was a hearing
which will be interesting to see. But he was probated
to ninety days of hip home incarceration, to live with
his mother, follow the rules of his mother, to attend
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inpatient I mean sorry, out patient intensive program iop AT,
I believe seven counties. He also had to have a
scan for traumatic brain injury to remain drug and alcohol free.
And to follow all rules.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
God chase the squirrel real quick you met. You mentioned
that part of it was to live with his mother
and follow his mother. What is with these judges and
the violent criminals mother? There was another judge that called
a criminal's mother in court and said, should we release
your son on probation? And in a shocking twist of events,
the mother said yes.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Well, let's look at this from a different angle. There
isn't a mother out there that's not going to believe
in the altruistic nature of their child and want their
child to do better and think they can control their child.
The problem with this case in particular is that, in
my opinion, everyone was set up for failure. Mister Langford
was set up for failure. His mother was set up
for failure. If she could control his behavior, then nineteen
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violent offenses wouldn't have likely happened. Right, Society was set
up for failure, right. I mean it's egregious.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, So it looks like this case is an outlier,
not a normal situation. You're saying that this is sort
of this is so egregious. This doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I pray it doesn't happen, and if it does happen,
we need to have a conversation with Jerina Weathers, the
Commonwealth Attorney for Louisville, as to why she is not
putting the public on notice that this has happened, and
why is the media not investigating?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Is there no one else in the room than the judge?
Who isn't there someone else, a prosecutor, defender, whatever that says,
hold on, because even prosecutors and defenders will say hang on, hanging,
hang on, this can't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So it appears the shock motion was filed. Mister Langford
had a public defender through the duration of his initial case.
He was incarcerated prior to the five months, so he
did have over two years in when he was probated,
and I think facts matter. He was provaded five months
after the sentence was rendered by Judge Jessica Green. Additionally,
the initial judge was Judge Stevens O lou Stevens, and
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he had a bond hearing and didn't reduce bond, certainly
because of the egregious nature of the crime.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, I'm not surprised with that, judge.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I am not su he didn't reduce spond he did not.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Okay, I think did no, and so he had been
in custody and then he had a private attorney that
ended up filing a shock motion. The shock motion says
he was charged with he pled guilty to one count
of berg nineteen council robbery, fleeing and evading in numerous misdemeanors,
and he was currently incarcerated in a halfway house and
had been clean and sober, which I would hope he'd
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been clean and sober since he'd been in custody.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
The collateral damage of this is this family, the two
kids and the mother that now will live with this
terrorizing Friday. They will never forget August eight, twenty twenty
five the rest of their lives. Well.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
And it's important to remember at this time that mister
Langford has still afforded the presumption of innocence, which is
what makes the shock probation so quote shocking, is the
fact that he had no longer had that presumption admitted
to nineteen violent crimes. He should not have been out
in the first place to be able to allegedly have
committed these, and certainly at this point he's got four
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B felonies he's certainly going to be a persistent felony
offender second, which means it'll be bumped up to an A.
So he's looking at per sentencing purposes. He is looking
at twenty to life, which will run consecutive with what
he's got on the shelf.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Okay, but twenty years, let's see, because I'm not optimistic.
Well maybe on this case because the media will be
behind it. But it shouldn't have to be. Oh, the
media is watching us. Let's do our job at the
Hall of Justice. You should do your job and be
compassionate for the victim every once in a while. But
if it's state charges and he gets twenty years, he
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only has to do what fifteen percent of that before
you get paroled?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
No, so he if it's b felony, it would be
eighty five percent, so okay, well okay, And he has.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
To do is fourteen or twelve whatever's left on the fourteen, right.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That would be then yeah, and then And what's interesting
is I have not seen that emotion to revoke his
probation has occurred yet, but that will go back in
front of Judge Jessica Green. And it looks like he
probably has I don't think there's any questions she'll probate.
But I don't want to give the media any slack here.
I mean, they only pick cases that are click bait,
and if you look at the most recent articles that
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came out, the judge's name is not.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Mentioned, never is, and then when you dig it takes
forever forever.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Are we unusual with our shock probation here in Louisville
or other cities follow Are we right on the number
for shock probations for Louisville as they are in Indie
or Nashville or Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I think that's a great question, and I would love
to see the data on that. I think they intentionally
don't keep it or don't give us access to that.
That being said, you talked about the collateral damage of
the victims, and absolutely, but also the collateral damage of
people that are wrongfully accused of a crime the system
in general. I mean, the fact that we're going to
have the pendulum swing the opposite way, that judges could
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be so fearful and hold people that could have been
falsely accused like this decision is so shocking to me
that I hope that it in particular is investingated to
see whether or not there's any connections. I'm not making
those allegations, but it makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And that's what I was getting ready to ask you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And by the way, our guest this morn is Christine Miller,
Judge dot Com, also Judgmental, the podcast Judgmental Podcast. Is
there way to make this verdict makes sense to me?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
There's not, is there?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Because I tell you, there's absolutely, positively, in my mind,
no way that could make that make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, I've requested the tape from the shock hearing, and
I think it's important to realize that sometimes the judges
hear things that we may not necessarily know as a
matter of public record. But that's where the media comes
in and just fails tremendously, because I would be shocked
if they had any intention of ever releasing that video.
And the public has a right to see what was
said at that hearing. But if he really did have
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these psychiatric issues and significant substance abuse, the notion that
a seasoned prosecutor would think living with mommy and intensive
out patient treatment is appropriate is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Miss Miller. Can you explain pal Agentini has asked for
impeachment of this, uh, this judge. He even goes on
to say I was in support of her when she
got the job, And this shocks me. What does that
process look for appointed judges? Do they Can you impeach
an appointed judge and get them off the bench or
is it just an impeachment as this goes into your record.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now you can impeach them and have them removed permanently
the Judicial Conduct Commission, which again is essentially worthless. They
have the ability to sanction, but they can't permanently remove.
But I believe somebody in the House of Representatives would
have to put it on the floor. Then there would
have to be a trial. Send it two thirds. I
think it's misfeasance or mouthfeasance. I have no direct knowledge
of whether or not a sitting judge has been has
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ever been.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
In She's going to stay on the bench.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I don't think there's any question, and I think it's
very clear now even Anthony from Twitter was it or
X was indicating you know, aren't you friends with people
that make bad decisions sometimes? So I don't know that
he would even follow through with that.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay, Okay, again, how many watch dogs are there? They
used to be the media career journal used to do
a fantastic job. I think it was probably easier to
get to the information if you were down there. Besides you,
Who other watchdogs do we have down there?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Not that I know of. I mean, I don't know
of any of the I'll neither we go down to court.
We recently had an interaction with mckaysha ann who's the
court administrator. But we intend we want court watchers to volunteer.
We're going down there. We're reporting on these cases because
the public has a right to know. And again, we
want the good stories the bad stories. I'm not here
to bash all judges.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, go ahead. I don't want to finish up before
we do that. There are good judges out there. We
know several of them. So there are good judges that
work their tail off trying to get the right thing
done for the public. There are.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And when we do this judicial roll call, we go
down to see how many courtrooms are open and operating.
But I can tell you, I mean we've got a
problems in each division. I mean, family court is an
apps hot mess. District courts we have not been to
the courthouse and seen them operating at full capacity. In fact,
the most we've ever seen is nine of the sixteen,
and we had a judge on which is specially.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Wait wait, wait stops, you keep throwing some amazing stats
out there. The most you've seen is nine of sixteen.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
In the bench with courtrooms open.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, okay, why is that?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But let me tell you how that might be even
inaccurate because I spoke with someone within the Hall of
Justice over the weekend via I won't call her name,
but she says there's one particular judge that will go
in park in the lot and somehow, I guess, does
it show that they're there somehow and then walk out.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
The front door.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, I believe it, and they get it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And this was an end depth conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was beside, my has COVID got anything to do?
Is absolutely okay? So it all shifted after COVID.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Absolutely. I mean district court judges essentially, you know most
of them, not all of them. Now, they're judges that
work hard, but it's essentially a part time gig. And
as far as this parking thing goes. I think that's
very fascinating and hopefully we could get some heat on them.
But I would love to open records request and see
the how often they're scanning in and scanning out of
the parking garage. It's my understanding that people have tried
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to get that information and they won't place it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like clocking in the work the door and then coming
back later and driving home.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Why do you do this?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Why about you?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What this?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It came to a point where we had the judge
that selfie recorded the domestic violence hearents for TikTok fame,
and I had my own personal reasons for leaving. I
am a first generation attorney. I mean love. I wanted
to be an attorney quite frankly my entire life. But
these judges are so retaliatory, and the system is failing.
It's failing everyone. It's failing families, it's failing defendants, it's
failing the society, and there's little to no accountability. And
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we have a system where the incumbents typically win. Like
you know, we need to look at the Andy Bursheer
appointments in my opinion now, certainly just to clarify some
mistakes on line. The fact that Jessica was initially appointed
by Andy Bsheer and then she did run unaposed, so
she would be in that seat.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yes, but typically you know Andy Brashear's appointments are concerning.
Drina Weathers is also an appointment the Commonwealth Attorneys.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
She was the county attorney. Ran on a post last
time she was appointed.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, a lot of these officers time. I
want to get this in though.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's very important because I have people text me, private
message me email all the time about judges. You need
to follow Christine Miller. Give the website, give all social
medias real quick, because this is a great resource of
someone holding our judges accountable.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Absolutely, it's judge dash why dot com. Go that at
real quick, j U d G E dashwy dot com.
The Judgmental podcast we are streaming everywhere including YouTube, Instagram
is Judging the Judges. And then I am Kentucky Christine
on Instagram and.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
TikTok Christine Miller, thank you for all you do. I've
investigated one violent case release and it ruined my day.
It took all of my day. I know how difficult
it is God bless you.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I say, thank you for having me and good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
No doubt we'll have you on. You're a great resource
for the facts, that is for sure. Around the top
of the hour, we are going to take your phone
calls if you have any thoughts on this. Arman Langford case.
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a good idea Landscapes dot com. All right, we all
know what the lead story is started on Friday and
as the weekend progressed, a lallmaker's got in nemus. I
saw on television this now is a national news. I
saw it on ABC of because this is an example
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that's going on in a lot of cities, is letting
folks out that have time, that are in prison and
then they do something. So that's what's happened here. I'm
sure everyone has learned about the story, but if not,
we're going to go over it for you. Armand Langford
should have never been on the street. The man suspected
(01:24):
of robbing in East Louisville bank and abducting three people
on August eighth, that was Friday, had a fourteen year
prison sentence drop by District Judge Jessica Green a year
earlier court show prior to the alleged abduction and robbery.
And by the way, this was a violent, very violent
abduction sort of this thing you would see on not
(01:46):
on a television show on network, but like Netflix, where
you're like, wow, that was violent. That's what happened yes
on Friday to this poor family that he terrorized.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And some of the facts are in I didn't realize
this until Saturday night when I got a text. I
know the husband and the father of the wife and
the child.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's Louisville. We're one degree away. You do too, Yes,
I did you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Who it was? And without the family's consent.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm not going to talk about it, but I will say,
if all the details of this horrific crime that went
on Friday because of Judge Jessica Green, it's on her shoulders.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
If details come out, people are gonna be horrified.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I don't know the process, Okay, so I don't
know why he would be up for shock probation. Shock
probation usually are four people, uh like d Wys, things
like that that people don't even remember and not they
didn't do it mostly on purpose and accidents happened, but
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they're still charged. Langford was sentenced on February twenty twenty
four and in July was granted shock probation. And here's
the deal. She's supposed to serve fourteen years, so they said,
you know what, you can get out now and as
long as you stay good for five years, this goes away. Goy,
(03:17):
it's pathetic, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Really, I don't know what these Louisville judges, what they're infatuation,
what their love affair is with violent criminals.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And I will never understand.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Why these judges hate the victims and hate the victims' families.
But these actions certainly would dictate that behavior. It would
because the Jeff let me tell you one thing. The
Jefferson County court system is not set up to protect
the victim. It's one hundred percent there to protect the offender.
And they demonstrate this day after day after day. Every
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time there's a violent crime. All you got to do
is wait, let's find out if this person should be
out on the streets.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, and even.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
If you were thinking about shock probation, I don't understand why.
What's the terms of why you would do that? Secondly,
why after five months, like it's fourteen years, after five years, okay,
maybe that's a discussion. But after five months, from February
to July, he's out on the streets and it didn't
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take him long. Here he is with this incredible crime.
We started to get the notifications on our phone that
there was because you know, that's Saint Matthew's, that's Linden,
So we're all like, what's going on there. We were
all talking about it this weekend and then the details
started to come out and he just he broke into
this house, took this family hostage. And we'll get the
(04:42):
details out a little bit later, but Whipsville Road is
where this happened, and the bank is across the street.
That's where the Toyota Oxmore Toyota and then Oxmore Center
and then that bank has been there for fifty years PNC.
I believe. Yeah, it's in there forever since I was
a kid. So and he tried to get her to
(05:04):
pull out twenty thousand dollars through a drive through window,
demanded cash, and then it's it's an amazing, unbelievable story.
And that's why it's national because you're just going why
why could this happen? I think partly because we have
tried to normalize crime.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like the judges in Louisville have. I mean, yeah, oh,
that's a job.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Drug dealing is not a job.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A job hurting a family of six, that's a job.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's that's that's not a job. That's that's not a job.
Even with going back to the Brianna Taylor, her last
two boyfriends were drug dealers, and I remember people making
the case of well, that's that's a job. What do
you everyone's a drug dealer. It's like, that's your argument.
So we will have someone on it. Who do we
have on at nine thirty five that's running for judge?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
No, she's not.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No, No, it's Christine Miller. She's coming on. She has
a website called Judgie and I want to follow her.
You might want to follow her on Instagram and all
the social media platforms as well, because she does interesting videos.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
What she'll do is she'll go on.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
A random let's say a Wednesday, all right, She'll show
up to the courthouse and say, oh, today there should
be x amount of judges on the bench. We came
in and we took attendance. Thirty percent of them are here,
the rest of them are gone.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Is that a normal number? You're throwing thirty out there?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, No, we'll get it from her. I remember one
day there was there was like thirty percent in attendance
on one of the videos she did. That is an
actual number. But she does it all the time. This
comes out and she just she's exposing. She's doing what
any citizen should be able to do. Let me tell you,
I tried to look up one of these pathetic judges
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that released somebody, and you remember this.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Took you all day long, and you got wrong information.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
At the end, six hours of my life in invested
in this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, and then at the end I had the wrong name. Yes,
it shouldn't be that hard.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Let me tell you, back when I was in prison
industry that's been a decade or more way more, there
was a system called cool Kool Kentucky online offender look up.
I wouldn't even need to have the entire name. I
could go in there with partials and find out where
an inmate was right, crime was. There's no reason, there's
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no reason we the people shouldn't have transparency and find out, huh,
what pathetic judge went ahead and shock probated this violent,
violent criminal.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I get it. If someone has never done that
before and this is out of their character and they
want to give them shock probation after half a sentence
or whatever, right, maybe that makes sense. Well, they've he's
never been violent this one, this guy has been violent.
You could have predicted this very easily. And I and
(08:08):
she's I would hope have to have some sort of
statement today.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know. I have no idea. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
If she did make a statement, it won't in my opinion,
I doubt it's going to be a true statement as
to why she did this.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And then how long I know that Pagentini has called
for her to be impeached. I know that Jason Nemus,
the whip in Frankfurt, said hey, we're going to start
looking at these because House Bill five, the Safer Kentucky Act,
was supposed to prevent this, but you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Know what had but this was pre Safer Kentucky Act.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so this shouldn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well in theory, but I mean we've got we've got
a broken hall of justice. I mean, we have a
pathetic hall of justice.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Anybody disagrees.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And then right behind that, we have a pathetic County
Attorney's office.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I think the left and the right yeah, well yeah,
and it's his last.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Year, so those are my opinions, right, the County Attorney's office,
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And it's his last year and hopefully or his last term. Sorry,
so hopefully we can get somebody in there that's going
to be tougher on this. And again, if something, if
somebody wants to give me information that makes sense of this,
now they'll say the left will say that violent crime
has been down is down over the last thirty years dramatically.
But if that's the case, then there should be room
(09:31):
in the jail. If there's room in the jail, then
why are you trying to get this guy out. If
it's overpopulated, this guy's not shouldn't be on the list. Right,
Let's look for I don't know, marijuana charges. Let's get
those guys out out of the prison first, and if
you need room, but I don't know if what information? Again,
what do I always say, give me a little bit
of information that makes this make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well you can't. And let two things on this.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
If you notice when after this scumbag was apprehended, which
by the way, way to go St. Matthew's Police way
to go LMPD. Yeah, man, thank you, thank god. Yeah,
Saint Matthews. Don't mess around.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So when this.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Trash got arrested, people started posting his priors and his
mug shots and all that. There were so many mugshots. Yeah,
it looked like a page out of a yearbook.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Where where the whole page of people.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, like if like fifteen twins were in the same
class or something and they were all violent crimes, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So number two, if you're going to shock probate somebody,
can they really show signs of good behavior in five months?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So this person now has he should have his original
fourteen year prison sentence. Correct, So now you are back
in jail with your fourteen year prison sentence, and now
whatever this is going to put on top of that,
he probably should never see the outside world again. Right, Well,
in theory, if you already have fourteen years and then
you have this where you you're kidnapping, I don't know
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what has happen.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
If we had a legitimate courthouse, yes, but here's what's
frustrating here.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You got a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Multiple multiple, multiple, multiple violent crimes. Three take some machete
to a woman and children.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, okay, he gets shot probated.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Now let me give you this, and I could promise
you this is the way this would go down.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm a good guy with a gun.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If a good guy with a gun would have been
at PNC and shot this piece of trash, the Louisville
court system would go after him with extreme prejudice and
try to get him crucified.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, I'll promise you that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I also want to think and pray, because this guy
should get life after this event, because the family has life. Yeah,
the kids have this insane murder film movie in their
head the rest of their life. The mom and the
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kids will need therapy for the rest of their lives.
And they will have issues that will continue in their
lives that they will take to them And when the
kids get older and have partners, they're they're going to
pass those along. And it is that's what we all
lose in this, is that the kids will have a
lifetime of this to deal with.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're definitely going to be suffering from PTSD. I hope
not God forbid, but if I were a betting man,
you can't go through something like that as a child
and have it leave your mind.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Armand Langford is his name, And we will talk more
about this and in about twenty minutes with someone that
keeps an eye on the judges, and she does a
fantastic job. We've had her on before and she's done
a great job. She's trying to keep on top of
how many judges actually show up to work and how
many do not. And there are there's district court, there
(13:06):
is family court, there are all circuit court. There's all
different types of courts. So it's it's it's hard to navigate,
and I believe that they keep it complicated for that reason.
It's not complicated or simple to fix. I don't know
if it's simple to fix, but I don't think they
would want to to keep it complicated. So the public
(13:27):
really can't get a good eye on.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It right, almost as if they're covering for each other.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm not saying that's what's going on, but I'm just saying, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Make this make sense that you're sending you're sending people home.
I mean this, this goes at least this guy actually
could run around the other guys that they were sending
out were you know, give them an ankle bracelet and
they're going home. Like the the LNPD officer that got
ambushed by two guys that were inside a house that
had ankle bracelets on and it wasn't even involving the
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stop that that he was on. He got shot from
a house because these two bags in there, we're shooting
at the police officers just for fun. Yeah, So it
goes even deeper to that, We'll give them an ankle brace
itt until we can get the court or whatever. It's
it's insane, Hey, Jefferson County Hall of Justice.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You always say this BS line if we try to
be compassionate and we don't have a crystal ball, and
I promise you. That's probably what we'll be put out
in the statement is we don't have a crystal ball.
My point exactly, if you don't have a crystal ball
and you want to be compassionate, just one time, just once,
try to be compassionate for the victims family and not
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the criminal, not the violent criminal that you all love
to celebrate and have a love affair with. Just one time,
just one time. If you don't have a crystal ball,
try to be compassionate for the victim and the victim
family instead of the violent.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Criminals, and that once, and I would not Some of
the police officers have nicknamed the circuit court freedom Hall.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We will have the mayor on eleven thirty to see
what his statement is. I don't know if he'll have
a press conference before that. I bet that maybe before
or after our show that he will. So he was
supposed to come on on Friday, we got it mixed
up and Monday made more sense. So he just happens
to be here today, not for that specific reason. But
we'll take your phone calls also at ten am.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
We'll take your phone calls at eleven am, right before
the Mayor. We're going to have majority whip Jason Nemus
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Speaker 2 (15:35):
And at nine thirty.
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Christine Miller with Judgy dot Com joins us to give
her opinion. And she's the one that is God lover.
She's the one that spends all of this time researching.
And let me tell you, I did it on one case. Yeah,
and it about drove me nuts.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, that's why they keep it complicated. That's why they
do that.
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They want to wear you down. First of all, when
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Speaker 3 (15:57):
This is what happens when you call, you get the
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And could you open your mouth and maybe speak?
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Makes the DMV look all right, So we'll take a
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these days. So we'll talk about that subject also, not
just this one today.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So all right, that's good to hear about Texas Roadhouse.
I just want to recognize Texas Roadhouse as one of
Louisville's best corporate citizens, no question. The things that surely
get the Texas Roadhouse concert series where we get all
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That's from the text Roadhouse. But the stuff that this
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Awesome back after this on news Radio eight forty wa chance,
all right, welcome back news Radio eight forty wha. Yes,
it's that Tony and Dwighthow brought you by the Kentucky
Office of Highway Safety.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well right, familiar with this show? No, I had a icebreaker.
Hang on, let me get a shot a team.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, thank you for that. All right, We're gonna get
into the nuts and bolts and maybe some facts here,
facts of the case.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yes, if you listen to the show, you know for
nine years Tony and I have been saying, listen, we've
got trouble with our judges, and it gets worse and
worse every single years. I bring in our first guest,
Christine Miller. You know her from the podcast The Judge
Mental Podcast as in judge.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And then mental as in What's wrong with you mentally?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And then podcast also judge dot com.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Good morning, How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I'm great?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
How are y'all really good?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
First and foremost, I want to say thank you for
what you're doing, because I tried to investigate just one
case of a violent criminal reoffending and I literally spent
six hours in mile life and then got the wrong answer.
So I want to say I know I say all
that say this, I know how difficult it is to
get the truth out of the Hall of justice, and
(20:11):
I want you to speak about that. But I also
want you to talk about you do something. And by
the way, follow her on social media. She'll give you
the tags you do something called roll call yes. And
on one of these I saw that thirty percent of
the judges were only in attendance. Talk about where they
confines you, and talk about this roll call first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
So I practice for fifteen years public defender and then
have my own firm. We started judging with Hugh Barrow
twenty years in litigation. It's Judge dashwy dot com and
the Judgmental Podcast. We want to talk about the good judges,
the bad judges all of it in between, and we
I am extremely concerned that the media does not take
the judiciary seriously.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, you're correct, we see.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Very inaccurate reporting coming out. For example, this case with
Judge Jessica Green. I mean the fact that the judge's
name wasn't mentioned. I don't have court documents, which take
about forty five seconds to get access to. I've reviewed them,
and I think it's important to look at the facts
of the case and not just jump to immediate talking
points on either side.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And it's easy to do that. So the novice like
Dwight and I either have been covering this for nine years,
we jumped to how is it possible this guy got
shock probation? But overall, on your thoughts and we'll get
to what you do with the website in the podcast.
But armand Langford tell me what your thoughts were after
you've dived into this.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Truly shocking for a plethora of reasons. First and foremost,
Jessica Green. Judge Jessica Green is very smart. I was
shocked to see this. I practice as a public defender,
thousands of cases observed, thousands, tens of thousands of cases,
probably ten fifteen twenty judges in criminal court. You were
talking about a man that allegedly had significant substance abuse
(21:52):
issues and psychiatric issues being granted shock probation on nineteen
crimes that involve either a weapon or physical force on
random victims. I have never seen anything like it, and
I've reached out to the Department of Public Advocacy members
that I used to work with, and I do not
know a criminal attorney that's ever seen something like this.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You mentioned that your opinion of Judge Jessica Green is
is she's smart. You and I have different opinions when
it comes to that. I know for a fact about
the criminal past, and she did to the nineteen violent crimes.
Help me make sense of this. If she's smart, why
would she make that decision? Because and I know what
(22:36):
she'll say. All these judges always say, we don't have
a crystal ball, we can Well, if you don't have
a crystal ball, to my point exactly, err on the
side of caution, why would you let a nineteen time victim,
a loser of violent crimes.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Out Well, I can't engage in this conversation about this
crystal ball. Okay, that is a talking point. That is
utilized to defend when bad behavior. Quite frankly, I mean,
I'm a girl that loves Vegas and I love to bet,
and I'd put my mortgage up that a man that
has a modus operanda of robbing random people with a
weapon would reoffend. Especially we haven't even got to the
(23:13):
point that he was probated to ninety days of home incarceration,
live with your mommy, follow your mommy's rule, and attend
out patient treatment.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Back up to say that again, I'm sorry, Back up,
you went pretty fast there. The worms the terms of
his release were what so the.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Terms of his probation and I have posted that on
Kentucky Christine on TikTok and done a breakdown of it,
and I will post it on my substack. But essentially
it's a three page document. Apparently there was a hearing
which will be interesting to see. But he was probated
to ninety days of hip home incarceration, to live with
his mother, follow the rules of his mother, to attend
(23:49):
inpatient I mean sorry, out patient intensive program iop AT,
I believe seven counties. He also had to have a
scan for traumatic brain injury to remain drug and alcohol free.
And to follow all rules.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
God chase the squirrel real quick you met. You mentioned
that part of it was to live with his mother
and follow his mother. What is with these judges and
the violent criminals mother? There was another judge that called
a criminal's mother in court and said, should we release
your son on probation? And in a shocking twist of events,
the mother said yes.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Well, let's look at this from a different angle. There
isn't a mother out there that's not going to believe
in the altruistic nature of their child and want their
child to do better and think they can control their child.
The problem with this case in particular is that, in
my opinion, everyone was set up for failure. Mister Langford
was set up for failure. His mother was set up
for failure. If she could control his behavior, then nineteen
(24:45):
violent offenses wouldn't have likely happened. Right, Society was set
up for failure, right. I mean it's egregious.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, So it looks like this case is an outlier,
not a normal situation. You're saying that this is sort
of this is so egregious. This doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I pray it doesn't happen, and if it does happen,
we need to have a conversation with Jerina Weathers, the
Commonwealth Attorney for Louisville, as to why she is not
putting the public on notice that this has happened, and
why is the media not investigating?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Is there no one else in the room than the judge?
Who isn't there someone else, a prosecutor, defender, whatever that says,
hold on, because even prosecutors and defenders will say hang on, hanging,
hang on, this can't happen.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So it appears the shock motion was filed. Mister Langford
had a public defender through the duration of his initial case.
He was incarcerated prior to the five months, so he
did have over two years in when he was probated,
and I think facts matter. He was provaded five months
after the sentence was rendered by Judge Jessica Green. Additionally,
the initial judge was Judge Stevens O lou Stevens, and
(25:50):
he had a bond hearing and didn't reduce bond, certainly
because of the egregious nature of the crime.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, I'm not surprised with that, judge.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I am not su he didn't reduce spond he did not.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Okay, I think did no, and so he had been
in custody and then he had a private attorney that
ended up filing a shock motion. The shock motion says
he was charged with he pled guilty to one count
of berg nineteen council robbery, fleeing and evading in numerous misdemeanors,
and he was currently incarcerated in a halfway house and
had been clean and sober, which I would hope he'd
(26:23):
been clean and sober since he'd been in custody.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
The collateral damage of this is this family, the two
kids and the mother that now will live with this
terrorizing Friday. They will never forget August eight, twenty twenty
five the rest of their lives. Well.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
And it's important to remember at this time that mister
Langford has still afforded the presumption of innocence, which is
what makes the shock probation so quote shocking, is the
fact that he had no longer had that presumption admitted
to nineteen violent crimes. He should not have been out
in the first place to be able to allegedly have
committed these, and certainly at this point he's got four
(27:03):
B felonies he's certainly going to be a persistent felony
offender second, which means it'll be bumped up to an A.
So he's looking at per sentencing purposes. He is looking
at twenty to life, which will run consecutive with what
he's got on the shelf.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Okay, but twenty years, let's see, because I'm not optimistic.
Well maybe on this case because the media will be
behind it. But it shouldn't have to be. Oh, the
media is watching us. Let's do our job at the
Hall of Justice. You should do your job and be
compassionate for the victim every once in a while. But
if it's state charges and he gets twenty years, he
(27:38):
only has to do what fifteen percent of that before
you get paroled?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
No, so he if it's b felony, it would be
eighty five percent, so okay, well okay, And he has.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
To do is fourteen or twelve whatever's left on the fourteen, right.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That would be then yeah, and then And what's interesting
is I have not seen that emotion to revoke his
probation has occurred yet, but that will go back in
front of Judge Jessica Green. And it looks like he
probably has I don't think there's any questions she'll probate.
But I don't want to give the media any slack here.
I mean, they only pick cases that are click bait,
and if you look at the most recent articles that
(28:09):
came out, the judge's name is not.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Mentioned, never is, and then when you dig it takes
forever forever.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Are we unusual with our shock probation here in Louisville
or other cities follow Are we right on the number
for shock probations for Louisville as they are in Indie
or Nashville or Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I think that's a great question, and I would love
to see the data on that. I think they intentionally
don't keep it or don't give us access to that.
That being said, you talked about the collateral damage of
the victims, and absolutely, but also the collateral damage of
people that are wrongfully accused of a crime the system
in general. I mean, the fact that we're going to
have the pendulum swing the opposite way, that judges could
(28:49):
be so fearful and hold people that could have been
falsely accused like this decision is so shocking to me
that I hope that it in particular is investingated to
see whether or not there's any connections. I'm not making
those allegations, but it makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And that's what I was getting ready to ask you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And by the way, our guest this morn is Christine Miller,
Judge dot Com, also Judgmental, the podcast Judgmental Podcast. Is
there way to make this verdict makes sense to me?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
There's not, is there?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Because I tell you, there's absolutely, positively, in my mind,
no way that could make that make sense to me.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, I've requested the tape from the shock hearing, and
I think it's important to realize that sometimes the judges
hear things that we may not necessarily know as a
matter of public record. But that's where the media comes
in and just fails tremendously, because I would be shocked
if they had any intention of ever releasing that video.
And the public has a right to see what was
said at that hearing. But if he really did have
(29:52):
these psychiatric issues and significant substance abuse, the notion that
a seasoned prosecutor would think living with mommy and intensive
out patient treatment is appropriate is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Miss Miller. Can you explain pal Agentini has asked for
impeachment of this, uh, this judge. He even goes on
to say I was in support of her when she
got the job, And this shocks me. What does that
process look for appointed judges? Do they Can you impeach
an appointed judge and get them off the bench or
is it just an impeachment as this goes into your record.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now you can impeach them and have them removed permanently
the Judicial Conduct Commission, which again is essentially worthless. They
have the ability to sanction, but they can't permanently remove.
But I believe somebody in the House of Representatives would
have to put it on the floor. Then there would
have to be a trial. Send it two thirds. I
think it's misfeasance or mouthfeasance. I have no direct knowledge
of whether or not a sitting judge has been has
(30:47):
ever been.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
In She's going to stay on the bench.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I don't think there's any question, and I think it's
very clear now even Anthony from Twitter was it or
X was indicating you know, aren't you friends with people
that make bad decisions sometimes? So I don't know that
he would even follow through with that.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Okay, Okay, again, how many watch dogs are there? They
used to be the media career journal used to do
a fantastic job. I think it was probably easier to
get to the information if you were down there. Besides you,
Who other watchdogs do we have down there?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Not that I know of. I mean, I don't know
of any of the I'll neither we go down to court.
We recently had an interaction with mckaysha ann who's the
court administrator. But we intend we want court watchers to volunteer.
We're going down there. We're reporting on these cases because
the public has a right to know. And again, we
want the good stories the bad stories. I'm not here
to bash all judges.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, go ahead. I don't want to finish up before
we do that. There are good judges out there. We
know several of them. So there are good judges that
work their tail off trying to get the right thing
done for the public. There are.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And when we do this judicial roll call, we go
down to see how many courtrooms are open and operating.
But I can tell you, I mean we've got a
problems in each division. I mean, family court is an
apps hot mess. District courts we have not been to
the courthouse and seen them operating at full capacity. In fact,
the most we've ever seen is nine of the sixteen,
and we had a judge on which is specially.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Wait wait, wait stops, you keep throwing some amazing stats
out there. The most you've seen is nine of sixteen.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
In the bench with courtrooms open.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, okay, why is that?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But let me tell you how that might be even
inaccurate because I spoke with someone within the Hall of
Justice over the weekend via I won't call her name,
but she says there's one particular judge that will go
in park in the lot and somehow, I guess, does
it show that they're there somehow and then walk out.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
The front door.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, I believe it, and they get it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And this was an end depth conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was beside, my has COVID got anything to do?
Is absolutely okay? So it all shifted after COVID.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Absolutely. I mean district court judges essentially, you know most
of them, not all of them. Now, they're judges that
work hard, but it's essentially a part time gig. And
as far as this parking thing goes. I think that's
very fascinating and hopefully we could get some heat on them.
But I would love to open records request and see
the how often they're scanning in and scanning out of
the parking garage. It's my understanding that people have tried
(33:14):
to get that information and they won't place it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like clocking in the work the door and then coming
back later and driving home.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Why do you do this?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Why about you?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What this?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It came to a point where we had the judge
that selfie recorded the domestic violence hearents for TikTok fame,
and I had my own personal reasons for leaving. I
am a first generation attorney. I mean love. I wanted
to be an attorney quite frankly my entire life. But
these judges are so retaliatory, and the system is failing.
It's failing everyone. It's failing families, it's failing defendants, it's
failing the society, and there's little to no accountability. And
(33:50):
we have a system where the incumbents typically win. Like
you know, we need to look at the Andy Bursheer
appointments in my opinion now, certainly just to clarify some
mistakes on line. The fact that Jessica was initially appointed
by Andy Bsheer and then she did run unaposed, so
she would be in that seat.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yes, but typically you know Andy Brashear's appointments are concerning.
Drina Weathers is also an appointment the Commonwealth Attorneys.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
She was the county attorney. Ran on a post last
time she was appointed.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, a lot of these officers time. I
want to get this in though.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's very important because I have people text me, private
message me email all the time about judges. You need
to follow Christine Miller. Give the website, give all social
medias real quick, because this is a great resource of
someone holding our judges accountable.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Absolutely, it's judge dash why dot com. Go that at
real quick, j U d G E dashwy dot com.
The Judgmental podcast we are streaming everywhere including YouTube, Instagram
is Judging the Judges. And then I am Kentucky Christine
on Instagram and.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
TikTok Christine Miller, thank you for all you do. I've
investigated one violent case release and it ruined my day.
It took all of my day. I know how difficult
it is God bless you.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I say, thank you for having me and good luck.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
No doubt we'll have you on. You're a great resource
for the facts, that is for sure. Around the top
of the hour, we are going to take your phone
calls if you have any thoughts on this. Arman Langford case.
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