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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live across the world.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Right now, this is the John Jay and Rich radio program.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
David Kickner in the studio. Check did I say it right, Kechner? Yes,
I did?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Correct mispronunciation, correct misdation.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
How do you say it the right way?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
It should be?
Speaker 5 (00:18):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
What are we on?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:19):
It should be Kirshner like Don Kirshner's rock content nice,
very close.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
So it's Koe siation the R. Now, I'm from a
small town in Missouri.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Which one Tipton. I know Tipton, though you don't. I'm
from Saint Louis really yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Highway fifty. Yeah, there's another young man here from right there.
He's bringing a Saint Louis clad.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Now he's Illinois though that's that doesn't count. Wow, we
put a river in the middle. You're you're yes.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
The Sad Party also put a bridge there, so it
was not fast thinating anyway, Central Missouri, small town probably
started by the eighteen forties, by about seventy five German families,
So you'd think that you're always gonna remember how to
say your own last name. Correct. You know there's an
umlat over the O. It should be Kushner, Koe Nowhere
in the English language is the oe said as a
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short e sound. It's never capt you see Cohler toilets, right, sure,
so it's co So people look at my last name
and go, you know what, your your brain is smart
enough to go, that's wrong. I'm not going to say
it that way. So I have thirty six first cousins
on my dad's side. So when I got into show business,
what am I gonna do? Because I'm codependent enough to go,
I'm not going to tell him they're wrong. But really,
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why did the teacher somewhere along the way go, hey,
by the way, let me pull you aside. You know
you're saying your last name wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Well did you think about becoming like David Star just
changing it all together and keep it easy for yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, that's the thing that I have. My mother's name
is Downy, so it should have been David Downey. I
would have added a junior. And then how they say that,
They said Dave, You could say, are you what you say?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Your name?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Would announce it? It was Don part.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Because that's how I said it from my childhood.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know Don Pardo used to live here. Did he
really he would do he would do the STA Live
opens from his house.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That makes sense toward the end. And then I was
on the show when I think he was quitting and
Darryl Hammond took over. No, no, the first time he
was ever sick, and uh, Darryl had to do it.
Darryl still great and he had to do it that
night as a quick like he just had like within
an hour.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think the guy that doesn't now it doesn't really
cut through, I think, but I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Does he try to do it as Parding?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, he doesn't. But it's just it just sounds. It
sounds GenZ, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Darryl Hammond. Still No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's Jared John.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well it's not Don Pardoh so, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I think it's Daryl Hammond.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I put because you kind of said it doesn't cut through.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Sorry, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well it was Don Pardo, an old time television guy
or radio guy, because there was something nostalgic about him
doing in the first place, because he was older already
when when they started doing the show. Yes, and they
have someone of his his I don't know, reputation doing
this goofy Saturday night show. I think was kind of
like this fun little thing to put in there to
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my mind.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You're performing in town, You're here Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Let's
get to the reason. I know I was gonna. I'm
gonna bring something else up. I want to talk to fanatics. No,
I want to bring up something else. So your your
second City alum? Yes, okay, so I was. I had
dinner a couple of weeks ago with a Second City alum. Okay,
Joe Bill, Oh I know Joe Bill. Yeah, yeah, is
a great guy. Joe and I are of the same era.
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Oh yeah, because he was going he's still coaches and
teaches and performs and goes all over the teaching he
was teaching. But his brother is my neighbor and so
uh and I was, I did Groundlings and so we
kind of connected us and we hit it off and
he was a really interesting guy. Yeah, and he told
me how because oh my god, ted LASO give me
Ted Lasso, who's head Like Jason Zegas thanked Joe Bill
in the Today Show one time.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Oh that's true. Today is in your in your in
your group in Second City with Chicago, Right, Well, you have.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
A lot, because there's the people you studied with, yeah,
the people you toured with, the people you're in companies with.
So it's gonna be a lot of people. Yeah, So
it's going to be you know, the first group is
gonna be fifty people. The next group is gonna eight,
and then eight and then eight, depending on who you
want to reference. But suffice to say, I happen to
be in Chicago at a time what was never been
matched since because when I was there, there's all these
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people that start started watching Saturday at Live when they're thirteen,
and they moved to Chicago in their twenties because they
want to pursue comedy for the reason of being good,
not for being famous, which people now just like want
to be famous. I don't have a problem with that.
The famous great, it's not real. But so I was
there in a step. I'll tell you this, Chris Farley
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and I were in the same class at Second City
from the first day. You don't know, you don't know
Chris Farley's going to be this immense talent beyond you
know reach. But to give you an idea, like I
was there with Farley to Meadows, Mike Myers Oh wow, Yeah,
I once down. It's a less about fifty people if
you include all the writers that you don't know are
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necessarily part of changing comedy throughout the nineties and the
two thousands. It goes on and on and on. So yeah, there,
how about this? I was there with everybody.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, it sounds like I once before I left town.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The guy that started Second City, Bernie Solends, I had
lunch with him, and he said he'd never seen a
confluence of talent come to town like that, had been
there the last ten years. So I was among them.
So I was very happy to get that feather in
my case.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And well deserving to be around because your stuff is
amazing too.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
This is recorded right, Yeah, so you're starting not live
obviously the Anchorman series, but Nick or there the guy
you met who's also from from the Illinois Illinois Psycho
Office fan which I'm sure you mean. In fact, you
embrace it so much you're willing to do trivia out.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It's a lovely show. It's the best trivia show in
the country, folks, Just so you know, So do you
think you love I saw eyebrow raise? Nick?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Do you have trivia? Do you have anything you want
to ask him.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Oh, I don't know anything about the show, no Irony
Rick Nick. But I mean I'm wild participate. What you asked, trivia. Yes,
here's how the way way goes. So we do three rounds.
So by the guy I tour with, I say touring partner.
We're not together, but it's okay if you are, I
(06:06):
know it is. Did he give you that hat? No?
Do you like this hat? I do have a pinch
for getting good good hats. I do good good hats
and good rings. But anyway, Rob and I have been
turning together probably eight years, and the reason for that
is because you want a good, solid show. You don't
guess what show my show's going to be this weekend.
And so he and I do an hour and a
half together as opposed to ten minutes, twenty minutes then
the long than the bald guy. But so Rob had
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an idea a couple of years ago, like, you know,
we've got all these office fans, why don't we do
a trivia show. See if it works. And it took
off right away. So what we do. It's an extra
added show for the weekend. It's at three pm on
a Saturday afternoon, which is when the cheese are playing
can you get me out of it? So I will
have been watching the game from the change.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I who care?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I do care so much that I would be able
to see things a way. Ask the trivia questions some
of them, so Rob, here's what it is. Three rounds
of trivia come out as Todd Packer, right, some packerisms,
ask an audience, some light hearted jokes or like hearted questions,
make some jokes the first round that I usually tell
a story from my time in show business or on
the office, and then same thing for the second third round.
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There's some audience participation throughout those three rounds. Then at
the end of the show, the top two teams going
to come backstage and rehearse for a scene they're going
to do on the show to determine the final winner
of the.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Trivia show scene.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do you have the trivia questions in your head or
do you have a written out? They're all written out,
so you don't know. Could you anything you could buzz up?
Let me tell you about Nick. Nick has watched every
episode of Office.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
He's a huge kind of charge and he also watches
it in the Nick has been a bit cocky, right,
now look at the Bok's face.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's now now the pressure is on?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Is I watch it every night before I go to
bed too, So I can't count how many times I've
watched Countless and so it I mean, it is kind
of sick.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And you also still listen to while you're in the shower.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, when I'm in the shower.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
That's a very common thing.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Have you ever met anybody from the office outside of
David Kes? So this is what I'm saying. That's wy
I want to I want this to be for you.
This is for you. This is a big moment for you.
But I can see your happiness. Yea, I know. It's
anything you want to ask him and then maybe you
can maybe you can throw a trivia question. Is there
a hard tribute question in the back of your head
that you just throw his way and see if but
he knows it.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But then, okay, nobody list.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Probably Okay, you're ready, I'm ready. What is Jan's assistant's
band name?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Uhansas is a band?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh God, you sucks so bad?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
His name is Conder. He's thinking.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
A great question.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That is such a good question. I know, I mean,
I know, I know his name, built him, tell him.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm so no, don't tell you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I'm very impressed that you know his name, and that
does figure into the name of the band.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I mean, I see, I see making a verb.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Nice, well done, ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, because he's sitting in free sitting.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's like hunted is spray painted on a brick wall
behind the guy who is also in a in a
different show that I watched a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But do you have a chip jar? Do you have
a chip tip jar? I have so many? Do you
want me to bring it over?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah? No, I'll hit it on the way out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, I do want to ask. So, when Steve Carell
announces that he's leaving the office, did you find out
like immediately that your role was going to be escalated
because that seventh season is always so fascinating to me,
and then running into like eight and nine, like you
(09:39):
were so heavily.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He left in the middle.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Of seven, okay, or at the end of seven Will
Ferrell took over.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Then, well, I didn't think in terms of me, Okay,
to be honest, I was very happy because I had
plenty of work and I was very fortunate, very blessed
to be in this business. That's me trying to be humble.
I'm not very blessed, and so you know, it was
like whatever, Now, this is before the show becomes such
a juggernaut. It became very popular. I don't think it's
(10:09):
as popular like it's populard. It's still highest it's ever been,
like day to day. Right, So I didn't think about
how in terms of how this is going to affect
me when Steve announced he's gonna leave. In fact, I
probably didn't know that for a while, that oh Steve's leaving.
I don't see for a long time. It's like he
didn't call and confer, like, Dave, do you think I
should go? But anyway, so.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
What do you think so far? Is he impressed? Is
here you?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I want to answer his question. Yes, it did impact
me because at one point I was supposed to do
every episode of the final season, but because there was
another movie I was going to do, I couldn't do
all the episodes of the final season. But that's also
a trivia question I'm not going to give away in
the show. All right, well you talk off off screen.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, we got to do a TV hit we gotta
get ready for the TV hit. He's going to go
live with the TV station. Right round, Happy.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
David around for show and tell here at the station.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
If you're like, well, we're gonna do a TV hit
with over there, you're setting it up, okay, and Rich
you know you get this a lot because I was
surprised about how tall you were. I were. I'll tell
you what, right did I'll tell you where what?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You do get that? So you are performing Desert Ridge.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You know, you have such a knack for conversation that
I don't realize we're on air. You're talking to me,
and I didn't know. As we're back on the air,
you're just talking to me like, Hey, we're hanging out talking.
Wait we're supposed to be I'm sorry. Hi, Hi, the
most the most friendly man on the street just start
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interviewing people and they have no idea they're being broadcast.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's kind of a common man run.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Hi, I should be in a bathtub. Okay, when you
do that, come in like, so, how's it going anyway? Yes,
you asked me a question I think was asking him.
Did you're you're performing the Desert Bridge?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeast improv there's a thousand improvs, but only one this weekend. Yeah,
the Desert Ridge improv on near that.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Mall tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And Saturday during the Chiefs game.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I know, have you Have you been in there yet?
That's a great on.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
This my fourth or fifth time. Love it, love it,
great room.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
And then that wall opens up and then there's a
band above the stage.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Food.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Food is great.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yes, you have any friends or family affected by the
fires in.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
La Yes, I'm from the Central Vinyl the valley, so
we were affected because the air quality is so bad.
But my daughters had at least five friends each who
lost their homes. They're gonna have a friends and I too.
But yeah, it's just incredible. You don't even understand the
scope of it because you're in it. And then it's
surreal because you're watching it happen as if you're not there,
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because you're watching the news. But you realize this is
real time and you might have to go somewhere and
you're sitting there watching that new app whatever it is,
and just it's tragic. And now that you're we're past
it somewhat, the gravity starts setting in like all these
thousands of people that have lost their homes, you loose
abnormal people, and they're just like, how do you ever
(13:14):
regain what you had?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Altadina looks like it's wiped out.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
To my lord, it's beyond comprehension. Yeah, and now you're okay,
where are they going? How are you to take care
of them? All these homes? Are these lives, the entire
centuries just gone. So I don't know. I don't know
how to wrap your head around it. Now.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
My sister lives there. She's in Santa Monica. Oh, she's
ready to evacuate.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But yeah, it was just day to day, like who's
going next? And am I going?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's worried touse. My son plays basketball in college and
he's got in Hawaii and they have they have games
up and down the coast this weekend and they flew
in land in a long beach and nothing's changed. I
got the vibe there was like I've heard a couple
places it's head to San Diego whatever. So it's like,
long Beach is fine. I guess it must be smoke everywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Right, Oh no, from LA that's a far distance, right, But.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I would still think that it would be coming down.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The smoke, yeah, by now would be abated. I think, yeah,
But it was just you still can't wrap your head
around it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Do you have anything else in the works besides stand up?
Any movies? TV shows? And that comes out?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I do? Oh yeah, oh, or like you have an agent, they.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Don't tell you no. No, I know that I've got
a movie I'm shooting in June. I think could I
tell you the name of it? You know, because it's June.
I think I shot four movies last year. Can I
tell you all of them? No?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Who's in them?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Me?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
You know, you do it a lot of times. You'll
do a project and maybe you just work a week
something like that. And a lot of these I think
these were all independents, so you never know when they're
going to come out. Like the last dependent I did
was it twenty twenty two or three? And it just
came out last year because they take a little more.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So you forget, you.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Forget, you forget. But that one was a good one,
called Ganny Mead. It is a you ready for this
One's Here's The genre is a Southern gothic, a gay
coming of age story with a horror twist perfect. That's
a genre begger. Yes, I play it's a drop. I
play a nasty preacher and it is really good. The
cast is great, the writing is great. Don't miss it
Ganny Mead and then look up the meaning of Ganny Mead.
(15:08):
It's a real mind bender, but don't miss it. Are you?
I'm actually good at it because my kids said, Dad,
you were good?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They are you at all? Into the shows like Severance
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I started watching it a lot of friends on that show.
I love that show. I have not gotten just to
episode two because I'm watching it on the plane. Yeah,
I'm on episode five, season one. You don't want to
keep going until you get to the learner.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
You asked me about episode five, I said, I haven't gotten.
I'm on episode I'm glad to say I'm started too.
I'm about Yeah, he's just started a couple days ago.
It's meaning that there's so much hype behind it. Okay,
she got me on it, and it's one of these
things where it's like it's so slow, but at some
point you're in okay, good and you're like, how do
I how shout out of this?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Because all the hype I'm like, I'm going to stay
with it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But the dude that's the main sorry, Adam, what's his name?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Scott?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, he's so great, you know, friend, No big deal
friend friend love that. I mean, first of all, the
one they called Derek, he's great. Yeah, right from the Stepbrothers.
But but he's great. And I was telling her this morning,
I said, that guy is such a great actor. He's
great in everything. Yeah, and he can do comedy and drama.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
He's great. And he's a lovable human being too.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Really, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He's awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Do anybody else in that show? I probably haven't been
through the.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Not hanging don't hang with Christopher walking all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Well, I know I've worked with Christopher Chris.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Were you Were you in Kettel in Cowboll? Are you
in the Cowbo sketch?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
No? No, he is my favorite sketch I did in
SNL the Executioner sketch.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He was in that one.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Are you in the documentary that just came out? No,
not that I know of. Oh, you have to be
in it. It just came out like two days ago.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, I didn't know this. Yeah, it's on Uh I
I do you.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Have to be. You know why he doesn't know movies
he's in because the.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Only time we worked with Chris was on Saturday Live.
So I have all the clips to you from SNL
that probably would not have been one of them.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
No, he's got a few though, he's he's been some
some banger.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
He's been amazing. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
No, hoolenss. It's Peacock. It's on the Peacock Network. And
they just dropped the documentary behind the scenes of Stay
Night Live. And it's like Kinde told me, I bet
you beyond Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Okay, oh wow, okay wow. It's an EL centric Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I take it. You were a huge fan of that
show growing up and.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
It just started when I was thirteen.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I feel like this year has been quite good, fiftieth year.
How do you do keep up when you watch it?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I've got five kids, so that's all I do.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, I was wondering. I was going to ask you,
you work so much, do you get a chance to
sit back and then what's the last thing or last
show or movie that made you laugh out loud?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh, laugh out loud? Anything from I think you should
reel and I think you should leave. Oh.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yeah, that's a good show.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
It's a real quick this documentary SNL fifty Beyond Saturday
Live Episode one. There's only three episodes so far. Episode
one it's a week about inside the writer's room. Episode
two is called more cow Bell Okay, and it's the
Cowbell Sketchy. It gets into how I Chris Walkin was pissed.
It will fare out for some stuff to get behind it.
It's like a drama. And then episode four is called
(18:04):
Season eleven The Weird Year. What's what years? What season
were you on?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I was I don't remember, I was on I was
on six Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, Season eleven would have been like when.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's really that would have been the first year with.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Or whoever took over never saw, Yes, I never saw
probably and that was a totally different cast, right hold
of organization.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Well, here's the website Desert Ridge Improv dot com. Or
your website is David Keckner k oe Y r dot com. Yes,
all right, thanks for coming in, bro pleasure, thanks for
having me again. This is a subside. It's John Jay
and Ridge