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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eire.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Why do you love space?

Speaker 3 (00:02):
Why do you love being a part of history? We're
going back to the freaking moon. That's why. Love that kid,
Love that energy man.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
And you see he's got all the got pros on
him too, Dude, I gotta tell you, I was just
talking to Kyle and News down there. He kind of
did the same thing that you did, sat there with
the with the young'uns. I'm sure Lofton probably didn't know
what the hell's going on, but you sent me that
picture of Lincoln. He looks absolutely enamored. Kyle's got his kids.

(00:33):
I took a different approach. I was literally out eating
when it happened. It was a It was an absolutely
full restaurant bar. They had a live band, like jazz
band going, which I guess they doe Wednesday. I didn't
know that that was the thing. And it's loud, it's boisterous.

(00:54):
People are having a good time, they're enjoying the music,
each other's company, they're imbibing, and then thirty seconds, right
it's the last thirty seconds you're watching the countdown clock,
it goes deathly silent, deathly silent, everyone just except for

(01:16):
the TV, which they don't normally put the sound on
on the TVs. In this place, it's a little hoity
toity up in there, and they cracked that thing cranked
to you know, ninety one or how much it'll go up.
And other than the poor jazz band who was who
had to finish the song, not a single person spoke

(01:39):
for I'd say the first like two minutes and then
just applause, which you kind of have to wait a
little longer because you want that last in that final
stage separation, which is where you know our childhood was
ruined as kids. But man, tell me that people don't
want to go back to the moon or around the moon,

(01:59):
or at least deeper into space and have appetite for
all of this ross. I'm sure you guys just glued
to the TV. Man, Yeah, we were, But I will
tell you this though, I what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
The silence. Obviously, people are fascinated by it. But I
can say I have read and I've had the same
opinion being there in first grade with the Challenger. Yes,
I think a lot of people our age or gen X.
I know people didn't watch yesterday because they're still scarred
from the Challenger explained how many of us watching, we're
watching that thing.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Go and just please go up, I would say.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
In that restaurant, by the way, it was all I
don't know that there were any kids in there, so
I and I think I if there were people that
were younger than me, it was only a handful.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
It was a much older crowd. So everyone is aware
of it, is what I was saying. And here's the
thing too, Lincoln is well aware of the Challenger explosion.
He and I have talked about it, right, so the
whole time he's watching it, he's going, it's gonna be okay,
it's gonna be okay, it's gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, it should be fine. Yeah, fine, that's okay. Good.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
His concern is a valid concern for anyone around our
age who was there in elementary school when that happened.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
So do you think there were people that didn't let
their kids watch it because of that?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
No? No, I still think, like, you got to watch it,
We have to watch it.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
But unfortunately the negative nancies have already dug in. Like
I was, I was so hopeful that they could just
not politic this thing, and like.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So the BBC or Sky News.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
If you watch their coverage, they spent the whole time
pointing out that every other person who went to the
moon was a white male like that.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
That was the crux of their conversation.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
CBS see on their twenty fourths of their news product
thing on their coverage.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't know if it mirrored the network coverage.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I was talking about the food that they have on there,
and the fact that they have tortillas, and so the
people who are questioning whether they're even American have helped
go to the right because tortillas. And I'm like, just
shut up and talk about space. Man, this is not

(04:08):
that hard. There's an article from The Verge this morning
that we're colonize. We're off to colonize stuff again. You know,
in case you run into any aliens. We got to
have space blankets or something. Where is I got so
much on this, man, I could sit here. I could
sit here and just talk about this the whole show. Okay,
here we go. So the Verge arguing that the Artemis

(04:31):
moon base project is legally dubious. Uh no, in fact,
I'm not okay, I'm not a lawyer. Ross checked the bar.
See if I'm sure, Let me check you or not.
I'm not a lawyer. Finders v keepers.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Suck it. There you go. I just, I just, I just.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's the last few minutes of law and order and
I just won. But more importantly, if you want to
actually get into the specifics of it, you're arguing it's
legally dubious because you think that we're going to claim it.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
We should, we should. In fact, I would argue it's
ours anyway. Currently. Do you want it? Come up and
get it? But it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
The whole stupid space treaty thing is about possessing, not
going up, and you know, because having to do extraction
or move rocks around or any of the crap that
they're claiming in this article. Just let us have fun, man,
Just let us let us do this thing, let us
go on this next adventure. Who knows, who knows what

(05:33):
benefits it has for mankind. I'm sorry getting lectured by
a bunch of people who, you know, just want to
shovel all the money off to the you know, the
LGBT rainforest trans opera, whatever, and all the rest of
the crap you waste it on. There are many, many,

(05:54):
many possibilities, not the least of which is a backup.
Right sci fi movies, you're like, we gotta if something
bad happens, we've got to have a backup. But that
doesn't necessarily mean that, you know, Planet X is coming
to slam into us. But what it does mean is
if there are resources that we need and they're readily
available and safer to get in space. That's a concept

(06:17):
that up until kind of like Musk and everything that's
been going on in the last ten years, I don't
know if you could make that argument from a safety
and cost perspective, But now it's going down exponentially.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
There's there's so many things, so many things. So then
I have to listen to the BBC drone on with
this garbage.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Ready fording a premier for Moral Maze on the show
and say, if I be on previous it's it can
be quite sensible. But you know they talked about the
trip to the Moon being a troubling raising troubling moral questions.
Okay that with poverty, disease, there was climate crisis here
on Earth. Never stop a moment.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Too, you know what, there's not on the Moon climate crisis.
I know, the moment you get there, you'll claim there
is so you can build funds.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Shut up pagandas and is this it should be spending
billions going to the moon. But also do we risk
repeating the mistakes of colonial expansion? Insane?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's that's so, it's so, it's so fun.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
By the way, to hear somebody have to say that
with the British accent, I know she's not the one
saying she's she's quoting somebody there.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Shut up, not not her, but shut up. Ross. How
many British space missions to the moon have there been?
Can you? Can you ask rock? Whatever? You? Oh?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Wow, that's so weird from the you know, considering their
love of expansion again this whole are you going to
colonize it against who?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Again?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Look, if we run into something to colonize, the story
is a much bigger, much different story.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
This is.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
This isn't Columbus like, hey, you're on the boat right,
This isn't that. This is not the Spaniards down there
like wow, look at these people. I wonder if they
have gold?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Right?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
This is this is something entirely different and you're ruining
it for us. And I'm sorry, I'm not going to
allow you to do it because people had a dream,
and there's a dream that is being realized, and I
hope they were able to achieve it. Going all the
way back to now.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
We will have the first permanent base on the moon
and it will be America.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Damn right.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Like the proper analogy would be like if Christopher Columbus
crossed the ocean, got here, and nobody was here, yes, yeah,
completely empty, devoid of any life, you'd be like, wow,
I'm gonna build something here.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, which is kind of you know, kind of how
when you look at a lot of the how the
islands essentially across the South Pacific, right, you can track
the evolution of the Maori people and you know the
eventual societies that then formed and in kind of in
sequential orders they were as they started to expand their exploration,

(09:07):
like we we have to your point, we have that
version of it here on Earth. We got there, nobody's there,
all right. It looks like a good place to build
a bunch of giant stone heads to confuse people later on,
and then you just you go for it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
So uh yeah, I don't ruin us, ruin us for
it now, I'm just like.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'll follow all of this, although I will say this
so I don't know if you know, like right after
takeoff they realized that the toilet was broke, but they're
able to fix it. So the toilet, which is good
because there's no like space BUCkies or something along oh
space BUCkies.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Spate ross bait.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
You have to if you have a base full of people,
you gotta have a BUCkies right next to it, right
so they can go get snacks and stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's really let's do this up. No, no, no, but we're
are we gonna? Are we gonna pretend we do not know.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Which astronaut had to go potty five minutes into the
road trip?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Are we gonna? Are we gonna have to solve this mystery? Who?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Like literally before you even got on the interstate, it's like,
I have to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's probably the older one with the prostate
issues that you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Is that where you're going with this?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
I mean that's a theory. That's a theory I hear
that you have right there. I'm just saying, like you
just left it. You just left your house, you got
all the crap loaded, you had to tie down the
trunk or whatever. Because you're in the thing the size
of two minivans. Right, everything's full, and yet somebody still
brought two suitcases and now you've got to stop to

(10:49):
go to the bathroom, and then you haven't even started
the trip.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
I understand they fixed it fast too, you know, they're
a bunch of rocket scientists. But it is surprising because
plumbing is very complicated.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
It is.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, it's a very good point. Yeah, it's very Wait. Oh,
I'm sorry, No plumbers are idiots. Thanks, Jimmy, Oh oh,
Jimmy Kimmel. There's a certain amount of irony to that.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
AnyWho.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
All right, six seventeen, so anybody, well what Ross was saying?
Did anybody not watch it? Because you're just like, I'm
not doing this again.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, a friend from high school send me that message
when they posted the photo of Lincoln. Okay, yeah, Kelly
went to high school with her. She's like, I still
can't I didn't watch it, can't watch it? Still scarred.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Do you think she came around to watch it after?
I'm sure after yeah, yeah, reload it. By the way.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I so I'm trying to find a story where they're
talking about this. Did you see people making awful ai
of it? Exploding and then posting it on Twitter. I
caught two of those and they were both accounts from Nigeria.
I know you're shocked. I know you're shocked to fight,
but like just just off just the stuff that people

(12:03):
do for engagement on social media, it just truly astounds me,
all right, So look, clearly we got to get into that.
What a perfect day for our nerd correspondent to be on.
I'm sure Steven's got some thoughts. We'll be chatting with him.
Coming up at eight five. We got Mount Everest scandal
and a chocolate scandal. So it's scandal Palooza coming up

(12:28):
here on the CaCO Day Radio program six twenty five,
and welcome back here on the your home for all
coverage of the Artemis stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Just because we think it's cool, lot, I mean, the problem.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
The problem is I also have to play Katanji Brown
Jackson audio from the Supreme Court hearing over birthright citizenship yesterday,
and we're going to be simultaneously impressed with the evolution
of technology and what we're accomplished attempting to accomplish, while
also horrified by the mental de evolution of Supreme Court justice.

(13:15):
Good lord, where do I start? Where do I start?
All right, let's get into it. Oh wait, hold on,
is that little pot not working?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
What did I screw up here? I swear man? All right,
let me try this. How does this work?

Speaker 8 (13:36):
Are you suggesting that when a baby is born people
have to have documents present documents? Is this happening in
the delivery room? How are we determining when or whether
a newborn child is a citizen of the United States?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Okay, let me just pause here. As somebody who has
no children, I can assure you that there is no
documentation that goes on when the baby is born.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Right, Roger, could you fact check that.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I will tell you one thing, the amount of doctor's
appointments before that kid comes out, and the amount of
paperwork that the hospital wants so they know who's going
to pay them, as well as your place of employment
wanting stuff if you want paternity leave. Oh, there's a
lot of documentation that you need to supply. It's anything
that happens. But I believe that I'm quoting here. You

(14:27):
once said that this country was not founded on documents.
Isn't that your official position? It was as a joke, Yes, yeah, okay,
all right, and I'm not a Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Thank god.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
No.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Can you have to sit there and like in person,
staring at that, try not to just stink? I her go,
what are you talking about? Okay, all right, continue on
with whatever this is.

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Under your rule.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
I think that's directly addressing the SSA guidance that's citing
our brief. What SSA says is there's currently a system where,
for example.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Security that's not Kennedy.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
By the way, it's just so we're clear, it's another
guy sounds like him.

Speaker 10 (15:01):
Social Security numbers are generated based on the Firth certificate.
They say, this can still be for the vast majority
of instant it's completely transparent. You will still get it.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
No, not transparent. I'm just talking about the particulars because
now you say your rule turns on whether the person
intended to stay in the United States. And I think
Justice Barrett brought this up. So we're bringing pregnant women
in for depositions. What are we doing to figure this out?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
So we're talking. We got two kind of main things
we've been talking about this morning.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Clearly the Artemis launch yesterday. I'll tayo. What was interesting
is I saw him interviewing these two you know, like I.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Don't know, probably in their early eighties, late seventies guys,
a couple dudes who lived down around Canaveral. Basically, they
love the they love the atmosphere, and they go to
all these launches. The guy was talking about actually how
he was at one of the final launches in the
seventies for the last time that we went near the

(15:58):
moon or to the moon, and by the way, by
the way, because this is this is the scold that
I'm seeing now. People are like, you can't say we're
going to the moon because we're going near the moon.
We're gonna all accept that we're not idiots and understand
what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Okay, they're going around the moon. I understand that.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
But I'm not gonna sit here and and police people's
language on this. Everyone's an adult in the room and
they know what's going on. Okay, this is this is
one step of of a of a much further process.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
But they're talking to these guys and.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
He's so he has seen the old you know, he
saw Gemini launches. And then you go through all of it,
and then you go to the more modern space shuttle
and now you go to this thing, and he said
that being nearby, it's it felt like an earthquake. It
was the it was the loudest, biggest thing that he

(16:53):
has ever seen the NASA put up off the ground
and it wasn't even close. Wasn't even close. So just
to show you the size and scope of what you're dealing.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
With there with the Artemis rockets, I don't know which
a feed we were watching, you know. We went to
YouTube and it was like again every channel was like broadcasting, right,
and we went to one of the big ones, and
you know, there was a time it starts to go
up and then there was a few flickerings of the
camera and Mark he was like, well, you know, is
that due to the heat?

Speaker 11 (17:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, I said, people.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Don't understand the amount of force that thing is pushing off,
like sound wise, everything wise, Like when you're standing across
the water from that thing, you are far away, but
you still feel that thing. Yeah, yeah, so it'll slap
you in the face.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I want to say it was it's Artemis is
not just a little bigger than anything we've launched. It's
like a lot bigger, right, I can't remember what the
percentage is, So yeah, probably feel like an earthquake, and
it is scary. It starts to go up, and of
course it does the curve thing because the earth is round,
and it starts to wow wow to you. Okay, it

(17:54):
starts to you know, curve a little and then it
sort of goes flat. And when it starts to go flat,
get a little nervous once again. If you're like a
Challenger eighties kid, you're like, oh, man, is it going down?
And the cameras are different now than we had back.
Oh yeah, you can see them till their window damn near.
But as a result, though, you're right, that angle looked weird.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yesterday because it's not what we're used to where you
kind of get a straight up for about a minute
and a half, right, and then it just disappears and
it just disappears. But no, they were able to hold onto.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
That thing all the way up until kind of late
the final separation there.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Marky was a little disappointed because they didn't have a
live camera in the cabin and she was like, how
come they're not showing the cabin now like I imagine
it would be because that thing is vibrating and it's
just going all up and down, up and down. It'd
be like a Jason Bourne fight scene on steroids.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
So yeah, I don't know if right. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
The camera stabilization that we can do now is pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Well, I mean, remember back in sixty nine they have
the live feed from from the spacecraft. Remember buzz Aldrin
drinking the mountain.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
De product placement was important. That's how I used to
fund NASA.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
So yeah, so that's that's Look, that's one side of
the COI we got going. On the other side is
yesterday the discussion of birthright citizenship, which, by the way,
I don't think the Supreme Courts can overturn. I think
it was pretty apparent in listening to the conservative justices,
the quote unquote conservative justices yesterday, they don't really have

(19:24):
an appetite the mushy middle ones and and you know,
you got to get everybody for something like this, So
I don't think that's going away. So what instead we
were treated to is brown jack And by the way,
that's uh with with the birth tourism and just you know,
everything that goes with it and our inability I'm sure
to strike down or alter a constitutional amendment. I don't

(19:49):
have an answer for how we remedy these problems. Just
the audacity of China where they they don't necessarily even
have to come to the US. They can go to
a US territory, like we're the only country that allows this,
the only country. But then we're forced to listen to
Justice Brown Jackson and her absolute lunacy.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I think I'm a.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Better lawyer than her, and I've never went to law school.
At the very least, I'm able to process thoughts better
because she wasn't making It's like she was given talking
points prior to it by activists but didn't pay full
attention would be the best way to describe this.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, just listen to this nonsense from this woman.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
Your view of this turns on what the status of
the parents are and not the child, as would the
born in the United States view of it. Can you
help us understand why wouldn't expect to see a mention
of parents in the text of this amendment.

Speaker 10 (20:52):
I think it's well understood that, for example, children cannot
newborns cannot form domicile, so it followed every nineteen.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Sears well, and I'm sorry it's trying to mean to
correct you. I actually, on the day of my birth
did form a domicile. So the cabin used for hunting
trapping in the woods of Wyoming, and we domiciled from there.
So to say that no newborn can form a domicile
is not yeotechnically accurate. Had to fight out some bears too,

(21:21):
that was day two. So just you know, keep that
in mind. Okay, all right, very good. Anyway back to
this insanity true that.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
Assumes domicile is in the test, And I'm asking you,
how do we know that Congress did adopt the test
that you say it adopts.

Speaker 10 (21:37):
When you look at nineteenth century conceptions of allegiance, the
notion that the allegiance again you say domicile is instantiating
the concept of allegiance for aliens as opposed to citizen.
All of that, the nineteenth century understands the newborns domicile,
its allegiance follows the allegiance.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Of the parents.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
And I point out that their theory relies on parental
allegiance as well, because they recognize the exceptions for you know,
hostile invading armies, for tribal indians, for ambassadors.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
All Right, so, so he's having to explain to Katanji
Brown Jackson that when babies are born, in most instances,
they're there, they live with their parents.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Just breaking this down for you.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
When Ross, did you know that when your boys were
born that they were going to live with you?

Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm not gonna lie. I was surprised by the entire situation.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, come, you think you just come on back to
the hospital and like, why wait, hold on there, why
are they handing me this bassinette?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
What the hell is going on? Do you mean life change? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
They having to explain this to this woman, and then
just what do you think we're done with all of
the stupidity?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
We get this.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
I was thinking about this.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
No, you weren't.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
If I could for just a moment. Never, you're not
allowed to start a sentence with that, Okay.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
I was thinking about this, and I think they there
are various sources that say this that you can have
you obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in
whatever country you're from.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
That all right, let me just so, do you understand
what she's chewing around the edges of It's the idea
that the reason that you have to have birthright citizenship
is based on the lines that talk about subject subject
to the jurisdiction thereof. Okay, that's what this is, and
she's going to make an analogy.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
That's what everybody recognizes. But you also have local allegiance
when you are on the soil of this other sovereign.
And I was thinking, you know, I'm i US citizen
and visiting Japan, and what it means is that, you know,
if I steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities

(23:57):
can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning can
they control you as a matter of law. I can
also rely on them if my wallet is stolen to uh,
you know, under Japanese law, go and prosecute the person
who has stolen it. So there's this relationship based on
even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just on vacation in.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Japan, there'll be a time traveler.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
Still locally owing allegiance in that sense.

Speaker 11 (24:27):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Remember those old etcetera moment commercials ver's this guy revenue had?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
What did I?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay, So your analogy to prove this thing is that
to be an actual comparable analogy. Well, first let me
say you wouldn't get your wallet stolen in Japan. But
that's a whole other discussion. That's a whole other thing.
So in this case, for your analogy to be accurate,

(25:00):
the very act of you stealing that wallet would.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Then make you a Japanese citizen.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
That's not if I sent Ross over to Italy and
he stole a breadstick, he's not He's not in the mob.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Now, okay, he's not an Italian citizen. No, I'm made.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
That's not how that works. I understand that's how it
works in her stupid analogy. I'll just go to any
country you want commit a crime. Boom, you live there. Now,
nothing they can do. This woman's a Supreme court and
she's not old either by Supreme Court standards.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
So on one hand, this is great for me.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I mean, it makes no damn sense. I've been trying
to think about this forever and it's just she's just
an idiot. Yeah, she's just so dumb. So if you
go there and you steal the wallet, they're gonna prosecute
you for theft because you broke the law. So I mean,
if you break the law by coming into the country,
should we prosecute you for breaking that law.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
You should be on the Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I don't understand Justice Haes just as Hayes's make it happen.
And again, I am thoroughly convinced that a lot of
her divorced thinking is because at heart she is an activist,
and it requires if you are an activist and you

(26:26):
are militant, which I believe she is, you can't think
about it too hard.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Do you understand what I'm saying? You have to keep
your eye on the prize.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Or she's an activist and she believes the law is
that she's trying to you know, are unjust?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
But what I'm saying is even when presented with evidence
or common sense surrounding something, even if you don't have
to yield the larger point, she has an inability to
do it. It's why we had the eight to one
ruling the other day. We had multiple eight one rulings
with her where she's the lone descent and literally is
getting made fun of in the approval by fellow liberal

(27:03):
justices in the form of Lena Kagan, who basically kind
of torched her in the majority opinion that she wrote
ed and who's she betting the knee to. She's betting
the knee to ACLU lawyers like this idiot.

Speaker 12 (27:18):
Well, everything that you're saying would suggest an answer to
the question of people who are the children of people
who are temporarily in the US but here lawfully. Is
there any way that there might be a different answer
with respect to the children of people who are here

(27:39):
unlawfully because of this new problem issue that Justice Alito
has raised.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
No, and here's the lawyer, no difference.

Speaker 13 (27:49):
And of course the government's arguments as to people who
are unauthorized immigrants in this country all runs through and
hinges on their domicile requirement. The first thing I would
say in respect is that, once again it's crystal clear
from Wanki Mark and from the debates that the framers
of the fourteenth Amendment meant to have a universal common
law rule of citizenship subject to the closed set of exceptions.

(28:13):
And we can't take the current administrations policy considerations into
account to try to re engineer and radically reinterpret the
original meaning of the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
All right, I am bas here because she's set you
up for this. So, by the way, her name is
Cecilia Wang, and what she's arguing is there is no
difference between birthright citizenship for legal permanent residents and illegal ones.
And more importantly, she's arguing that the Fourteenth Amendment, and
you'll hear it here in a moment, which was passed

(28:49):
because of post slavery, you know, post Civil War slavery
and having to you know, fix the question of you know,
former slaves and their families and their residency and or
citizenship status. She's arguing that the framers of the Fourteenth
Amendment right there after the Civil War intended to allow

(29:15):
this concept of anchor babies, when in reality, every ounce
of discussion that went to this focused on slaves and
a little bit because there was debate and then eventually
didn't apply focused on Native Americans, which that part of
it was rejected initially.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
So continue, ma'am.

Speaker 13 (29:37):
The second point I would make is that in fact,
the framers did consider the concept and the actual problems
of immigration that were coming up at that time. In
addition to this notable exchange between Senator and Collen, Senator
Callen and Senator Knness where Collen says, if we have

(30:00):
of this citizenship clause as part of the Constitution. We
are going to encourage these gypsy what do you called
gypsies roma in Pennsylvania, whom he characterized as invaders, trespassers,
and lawbreakers. Will encourage them to come into our country
because there's children will be citizens, he says Senator Konness.

(30:20):
In your state of California, you'll be facing a mass
flood of Chinese immigration if we adopt the citizenship rule.
And Senator Konness, himself an Irish immigrant, says yes, and
I am voting for that because I believe in citizenship
by virtue of birth without regard to parentage.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
One Senator, which I don't know if you know how
this works, Ross, will you check and see the threshold
is fifty and or sixty senators or one senator?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, let me chack it. That's fifty to sixty okay,
not just one?

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Right, okay, all right, even if the one is really
oh yeah. Back in the day, man, nobody drinks Senator
Connest under the table whoo or beat him, beats them
with a cane or whatever, however they would entertain themselves.
So again, based on the questions and the attitudes I
was seeing from Gorsicic and Roberts and and I don't

(31:22):
think anything's gonna happen on this.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Not this way.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I don't know how if you could ever get there
the other way, but it's it didn't look and Trump,
by the way, didn't look good.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
But oh that was the other thing.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
So Trump went there, which people are screaming as a
constitutional crisis, because of course we love that. And then
you even had reporters saying that he was forced to
sit in the back in a little corner because he's
in that room. He's not the president. He's a little
man like everybody else. As I actual left, you know,
these are the more hard left, uh, you know, make

(31:59):
no apose these reporters, Donald Trump and Pam Bondy sat
front row, and Trump, according to reports, was just stink
eyeing them as they're as they're making these arguments. And
after was not happy, right because he can read a room. Obviously,
it's it's he's a business guy. You read the room,
so he's reading the room. I don't think he believes

(32:21):
it's gonna happen either. So I guess if you're a moonbat,
you're super excited about this, it probably went your way.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yesterday. But we'll see.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I don't know, we could we could be maybe Brown
Jackson hits the wrong button.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I don't know, don't know. I voted for get rid
of this. We don't know. We'll have to find out.
But I do know this. We got lots more to
get into.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
We'll get your calls eight eight eight nine three four
seven eight seven four nine eight eight eight nine three
four seven eight seven four back in just a few
as the uh, excuse me, there's the Artemis two rocket
hurdles toward the moon.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
What what was it about?

Speaker 4 (33:09):
They say three and a half days, like three and
a half days two two to three days on the
on the go around, and then it's a little less
coming back just because you're picking up speed. I'd have
to look at the chart again, but it's you know,
we got we had a long ways to go. Clearly
yesterday was it was launch day. We'll talk a little

(33:30):
more about that here in a moment. I'm gonna grab
a phone call. Were also gonna be chatting with Stephen
Kent coming up at eight oh five. I'm sure he's
got some moon thoughts, so we'll listen in on those.
And uh, they're doing the thing again. You know how
we notice patterns here on this show, Like every time
some terrorist eyes, two days later there's an article about

(33:51):
how gay he was.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
That's a pattern.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Or in this case, if you're in a movie and
you prematurely come out with the uh, I'm a victim
because everyone you know, from racism or misogyny, sexism, whatever
is I assume that you thought your your project was
going to be better than you're now assuming it's going

(34:16):
to be, and you're getting out in front of it
only because I feel like we've seen this a dozen
times in the last like ten years. And what I
mean by this is like remember when the all women
Ghostbusters was coming out, and they're like, oh, yeah, no,
it's all the big it's out here doing this thing,
and and everyone who's you know, constantly terminally online is

(34:38):
looking at their social media like I don't see any
of this stuff. They did it with snow White, they
did it with she Hulk, they did it with uh uh,
what was the horrible what was the horrible one that
recently came? It was it the Eternals? They did they
they do it and to the point where now people
are like, I don't believe that this has happened. I

(34:58):
think you're trying to make it thing, either to promote
or to deflect. Well, we may have another one of those,
but that'll be a discussion that we'll have with Steve,
and that'll be coming up a little later. Let me
grab a quick call on the Supreme Court insanity as
arguments yesterday over birthright birthright citizenship included several bangers, but

(35:21):
not in a good way from the newest Justice Brown Jackson,
who won doesn't know how it works too. Thinks if
you go to another country and steal something, you're an
insta citizen. It's what somebody was theorizing that she's a
sovereign citizen because she's a traveler. I honestly, look, I
think she could you ever see those videos of the
sovereign citizen and they're trying to explain it to the cop.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
It's just like, oh geez, why do I have to
deal with this today? Dude?

Speaker 4 (35:49):
There isn't one of my one of the best ones
I've ever seen, by the way it took place down
by like Pinehurst, Southern Pines.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
But like, I think she'd lose an argument even even
to the dumbest cop they could find.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yeah, because they tend to talk in circles and it's
very but you can tell who they are as soon
as they start talking.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
A one hundred percent within fifteen seconds that body cam.
You're like, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
And if I see them come up with a handful
of paperwork, not like how my insurance probably on this,
I mean like a manifesto, I'm like, here we go.
You're so right, you have to keep notes. So yeah,
we recently watched a video. It was this woman in
Florida who there was a house for sale and I

(36:34):
guess had been for sale for like two years, and
she decided she was just gonna go in change the locks,
and she this is my house now because I'm a
sovereign citizen. And we're watching the thing at home, and
the police get to the door and she shows some
paperwork through the door and just the way she was saying, sir,
I said to MARKU said, she's a sovereign citizen. And
that's what it turned out to be.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm not gonna lie when they taste her glorious.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Oh, they're always a tasing in every story that you
love so much? Are you want everyone, Taste, did you
see the horrific story from this week? I didn't put
it in the prep of what happened to the dude
He ran through a puddle of gasoline right as they
were tasing him. Oh yeah, you know how that worked out.
Guy's super burned and he he's sewing clearly. But also like,

(37:22):
I don't know that the cops are really I think
they'd realized too late that it was gasoline there. But
that's the thing, man, if you're running from the cops,
don't run through a pool of gas if you know,
because they might have a taser and they might not
pick up on it right away and it won't end
well for you.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
You gotta pick your spots. Yeah, I'm not going to
run away from the cops and run through like a
smelting plant.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, no, you did none of that, and yet, for
whatever reason, that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
All right, let me grab this phone call, Yes, Jamal,
what's up?

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Hey, Taste, I just want to make two points one.
But Taggi Jackson Brown is the same one. I won't see.
It was probably Marshall Blackburn or Ted Crue that asked
her to the final woman, and she couldn't during her confirmation.
The most one of the things that showed that she's
a d EI Higher activist just like you said, was

(38:14):
when she was asked the question the final woman and
she says, huh, well, this may come up in front
of me as a decision, and people were like, oh
my god, this woman is the EI Higher And that
was one of the things that The second thing when
people debated this one temp Art and temp music. The

(38:35):
one thing that Trump administration did not do that I
was upset about. Well, they didn't make the point. The
same people who ruled on one camp Art in eighteen
ninety eight were the same people who ruled Plassy v.
Ferguson eighteen ninety six. The one tim Art is one

(38:58):
of those cases that slow black progress down because what
it did before eighteen ninety eight, you did not have
anchor babies right there. If it was long that if
you came in America, they could you know, you wan't
going your parents won't hear or something like that, you
won't give the US citizenship. But the same people who

(39:19):
voted Plessy b. Ferguson Separate but equals.

Speaker 11 (39:24):
The same justice will defend it. Helen the senses in
one kim R. So when they can so lost the
one thing the Trump administration wouldn't go. I'm like criticize
the court in their Facebook when the when the Republicans
win a court case here, if you notice, they always
say it's a Trump court. This is a conservative leaning court.

(39:47):
But nobody will say, Hey, the same court that rules Plessy,
b Ferguson and other things that slowed down black progress,
it's the same court that rules one kim R in
eighteen ninety eight, So why don't And.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I was in the gap Starle like, yeah, hang hang on,
just because like there's a lot for people to take
in on the radio unless they're super duper invested in this.
I did see some people arguing why that was not
a good strategy yesterday.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with him, but I
think in the one as the decision is rendered and
as we do the Monday and thanks for the call
the Monday morning quarterback thing, I think that will be
part of the discussion as to whether that was the
proper strategy. I want to say that the Solicitor general
who was doing the argument actually commented on why they
didn't do that, but I don't remember what his answer was,

(40:44):
so I will see if I can find that it
was it wasn't. I don't think he gave a full answer,
but it was definitely part of the just the absolute funnel,
you know, high speed fire hose of info that was
coming out as people were debating this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
This is crazy. Oh right, So.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
There's a new report out that is attempting to put
numbers to fraud in California, right as part of you
get the medicaid, you got these hospices his home health
care thing. But they go a step further and they
actually start breaking down the totality of California state budget. Now,
I want to be clear, what they're talking about is

(41:33):
outright fraud, right on, criminal fraud, not wasteful spending, not.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Stupid projects, not.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Where something might be appropriated in one part of the
budget but then has spent on something entirely different, which
I guess you can argue might be illegal, but that's
not what we're talking about. We're talking about pure, unadult
traded fraud, and specifically only fraud committed by non government actors,
even though the government pays it out ross. What percentage

(42:03):
of the total California budget the whole thing is is
gobbled up by fraud? And and again fraud, not not
stupid spending, not projects to nowhere, not fraud, people defrauding
the government of the total California budget.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
What percentage is downright fraud, It's gonna be like ten percent.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
That is gonna be higher there, Okay, at least twenty
five percent, bob bit.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Quarter there, Bob, you nailed it. Oh wow, But also
twenty five percent twenty for every dollar, twenty a quarter
is stolen. That's insane numbers, you know, And and do
you remember when they were arguing nose, They're like, fraud
is less than one you know, point zero zero zeros

(42:54):
the gazillion zeros seven two right, some stupid thing in
the state of California. The fraud, just the fraud is
a fourth of their budget. While they're hemorrhaging people, while
they're hemorrhaging corporations. Now, I do think they found a
work around on the hemorrhaging of the people. I know,

(43:17):
if you saw this California chocolate spiked with viagra recalled,
I think that I think that's how they were trying
to solve it, like son of a gut. All people
keep leaving a bit. We need to we need we
gotta do something, man, all right, well, what if we
can figure out a way.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
To make them you know?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah, a northern California company that sells adult novelty products
is voluntarily recalling two chocolate products found to contain life
threatening amounts of viagra. So they were supposed to have viagra,
but you spilled all the bottles spilled in there.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
I'm very confused us.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Gold Lion aphrodisiac chocolate and Islam Islam chocolate.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I l u M.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I don't even know what that is. You know, it's
probably a thing. I don't want to know what it is.
Mail enhancer sold nationwide, I guess in the novelty stores
and online apparently have all the viagra. Now here's the thing,
if you really you know, probably cheaper than the viagra.

(44:32):
Got to partition it properly. So yeah, I think that
that's California's.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Planning to go ahead and fix this thing. Just a
theory I'm working on.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Could be wrong, all right, seven eighteen phone number eight
eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. You
know one of the things, the nuggets of info and
wisdom that we've shared on this show over and over.
What do you do if you find something crazy, valuable, treasure,
any of the rest of it.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
What's the rule? We beat this in your head. What
do you do? Nothing? Right? You don't tell anyone.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
You don't call the government, because then the governments can
be like, that's ours. Well, apparently some folks over in
the Europe did not get the message.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
We'll get into that next.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Hang on, Uh where where exactly?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
What's in Switzerland somewhere?

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I don't know, doesn't matter, not a big contrab Anyway,
they're diving, they're diving a lake there.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
And they find there we go, sorry to load the
larger story just says a Swiss lake. So dumb.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Anyway, So they're diving this lake and lo and behold
what do they find? They find a Roman shipwreck. A
Roman shipwreck, and because the water is so cold this
and the I guess the acidity or the salinity of
the water or the lack thereof. It's like this stuff
is in really good shape, including what they describe as

(46:04):
perfectly preserved Roman gladiator swords, among other things.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
So what are these nitwits.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Do they tell the government, no more gladiator swords for you?
They didn't even gladiate. If you find gladiator swords, you
gotta gladiate.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That is so dumb man.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
And by the way, if you pull a sword from
the lake, that's there's a thing that could happen.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Am I wrong on this? Nope? You're right. Yeah. And
if a woman hands it.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
To you, nothing but good things.

Speaker 13 (46:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (46:36):
If I find a treasure trove of ancient swords or
something like, yeah, like I'm gonna have yard work made
out of the swords, I'll have wind chimes made out
of the sword.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yes, I'll have them, the swords up on my wall.
You'll do the sword thrown from Game of Thrones. Yeah.
The one thing I'm not gonna do is call the
government no all sorts of treasures? What else do they
find in here? Hang on? What are these? What are these?

Speaker 4 (46:59):
People'll just part with through their inability to keep their
mouths shut?

Speaker 9 (47:06):
All right?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Is lake nuke? Nuke? Could tell I don't know what
that is or where that is?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Uh, how do you not put a list of all
this stuff just somewhere in your story here? I mean,
they got a gazillion pictures. Okay, here we go several hours.
There are several hundred gladiator swords.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
You know, me win chimes. Ross could have be walking
into work with my like gladiator swords suit.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah, here be coming down the hall like clank clink clank.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
But you know what, you'd being previous. I'm not calling
you Massi or whatever. Russell Crowe's name was, what was
his what was the what does this escape me?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
What was his name in the Gladiator? My name is
murderer Maximus.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah, so it's a all the memes now, and then
with the I'm Jeff memes, you know the ones I'm
talking abouts.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, Jeff means to make me laugh.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I've seen they seen the one where they have where
they go, I'm Maximus, blah blah blah, my name Jeff.
And then it's usually like that they'll attach it to
animals like some dog who's just super smart and then
another one that just ran into the butt of another dog.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, those are fun memes.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Any who, Thank you for joining us on the Space
Race morning. Although I don't know who's racing along. It's like,
you know, it's like we got an we got a
Formula one car, and uh they got one of them
cash for clunkers things. Really at this point, as Artemis
two rockets towards the moon. Dude, I I I don't

(48:42):
know how you chose to watch it, or if you
chose not to watch it. Ross was pointing out there,
and I get it, especially people that had their childhood
impacted by the challenger, who uh just probably you know,
watched it after it happened, but didn't want to watch
it live, or didn't want to sit there with their

(49:03):
kids and watch it live and have their kids get screwed.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I've explained the whole situation to Lincoln. I said, you know,
this happened to me when I was in first grade
and it was traumatic. And he said, tod, Daddy cry.
I said, yeah, we were all really really upset. Yeah,
and he goes, then what happened? I said, then we
went to school the next day. Yeah, like nothing ever happened.
They probably didn't bring it. They'd probably have grievance cous say,
they didn't bring out the counselors, that didn't close the
school teacher.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Work day probably happened. Yeah, they're just like off to school,
You go off to school. I can't remember if we
talked about it after even in class. I just I
was too young to remember.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I told him. I was like, you know, Big Bird
was supposed to be on there too, And then he
was like, why would you do that? Well, he'd figured
it out himself.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
He's he kind of he kind of they wanted to know, like,
was Big Bird there? Was he about to get on
the Challenger? Was Big Bird ever? That was he in Florida?
I said, no, Big Bird never left Sesame Street. He
just he changed his mind. He said, yeah, I don't
like space.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Actually the Big Bird was upset he was booted and
uh may have done something. That's what. That's what.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
No, you're not gonna turn him into a mini conspiracy theorist. Now, okay,
that's a thing. By the way, I don't know if
you know this. That's not big not Big Bird itself,
but like PBS. But PBS, yeah, because you know, violent
insurrections are their thing. I mean they are now. They
do love them now in their coverage. But yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Man, there was another one. I saw.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
What was what was the dumbest thing somebody sent me
over the weekend. Oh, the Ronald McDonald thing. Did you
see that going around since since we're just going after
cartoonish characters, that Ronald McDonald was actually named after a
serial killer that murdered a bunch of children.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's like an origin story.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah, So you can write whatever you want on the Internet.
You don't have to ingest it into your kid's brain though,
now speaking, I did.

Speaker 14 (50:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I did throw a little bait out and was able
to hook a couple of fish on the show account
yesterday and I just wrote, h hang on, I want
to read it to verbatum, horrible day for the flat
Earth contingent.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And we got one.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Not really, we already know and have proven repeatedly that
NASSA lies and fakes their missions. So there's yeah, if
you want to go on the Twyter's Little rabbit hole.
There's also a picture of Lincoln watching the scene. He
looks absolutely enamored with that man. Absolutely Kyle. I was
talking to Kyle of News he watched it with his kids,
kind of explaining along the way, I watched it in

(51:43):
a very crowded restaurant setting yesterday, and the thing that
stuck it out to me was this restaurant which was
slammed full. They had a live jazz band going. Yet
the moment that thing kicked off, it nobody said a word.
Could have heard a pin drop in there, although the
jazz guy did have to finish the song. So that
was a little weird because you probably want to watch

(52:05):
it too, and then they watched it, but yeah, I mean,
everybody just glued to what was going on. Then applause
probably a little early, but you know, worked out, and
then we were off off and running, and of course
then the yeah, you got to get the people that
are gonna come in and try to make it a
bad thing because you just and why is it what

(52:28):
technology reporters are so doom and gloom on this stuff?
I've kind of noticed that. Is that a requirement to
be a technology reporter? You have to hate technology or
or be sus of all. Don't get me wrong, we're
sus of some technology here on this show from time
to time, murder bots with flamethrowers.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Right, But like, let me ask let me.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Ask this question of those of you who are old
enough to remember the summer of sixty nine. Okay, did
you have a contingent of people that were just Debbie
Downers on this stuff? Hated what was gone is wasteful.
I can't believe we're doing I understand that when we

(53:13):
had those astronauts dyeing that simulator and that fire, you know,
clearly there were people who were wondering.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
If this was worth the cost.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
But I'm talking about when we did the when we
did the moon shot there, did you have people who
were did you have a contingent of just negative people
people want to criticize it just for the purpose of
criticizing it, or were people pretty unified on it? Because
the way it's always portrayed is it captivated not just

(53:43):
the United States but the world. And really maybe the
only people who were upset about it were the Russians
or something and maybe their allies. But for the most part, whoever,
you know, whoever heard of it, right, because most of
the world probably didn't see it, even though it was
in a lot of places, or they at least didn't
see alive.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
That felt good.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
And even though this is not something new that we're doing,
you know, going in this case around the moon, they
still will pass. The path that they're going to take
will still put them is far away from the Earth
as any human has ever been. So that is an achievement,
and the next steps of this are then to land

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on the moon again, and then the next steps from
that are to go ahead and constructs things on the moon.
And then when you construct things on the Moon, then
you can start talking about how do you utilize what
else do you construct? What is that construction going to
look like as we move on to the next phase
with Mars. This is all really exciting stuff, but I'm

(54:53):
just wondering eight eight eight nine three four seven eight
seven four because for everyone of like this kid right
here who is getting interviewed by CNN, and I love
this audio.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Why do you want to be here?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Why do you love space?

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Why do you love being a part of history? We're
going back to the fucking moon, That's why.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
And by the way, I saw people dock it on
the CNN reporter. That's a that's a super logical question
to ask a kid sitting there watching it right, Well,
there's plenty of time to crap on CNN.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
That's a fine question, and I love the kids answer.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
And what's even better is the head of NASA, Jared
Isaacman Isaacson saw that and said he's set in the
kid a NASA swag bag. So this kid might be
the kid from Fly to the Navigator reboot or something,
and we'll have to look into that. But please, actually,
should they reboot Fly to the Navigator?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Just leave it? They should not.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
And I don't know if you would curse that upon
that kid because the actor who played that kid not
a good life. I was sort of in the opposite
direction for him. Yeah, I'm sticking in peers still, you
know character right, Yeah, Like his hat's going to be
like eating by an alien.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
I mean, I'm sure Isaacson will them another one. Just
don't put your finger where that alien is. Man, It's
not going to work out for you. So for every
one of that, we also had Nitwitz like what was
going on? Now she's quoting somebody, But listen to this
from the BBC ready forwarding a permit.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
For moral maize on the shows. If if I beyond previously,
it can be quite sensible. But you know, they talked
about the trip to the Moon being a troubling raising
troubling moral questions. Okay, that with poverty, disease, there was
climate crisis here on Earth. They never stop a moment
to propagandas and is this it should be spending billions
going to the moon, But also do we risk repeating

(56:39):
the mistakes of colonial expansion insane?

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Yes they are, I agree with you, ma'am, colonial and expansion.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
But being a.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Colonizer requires a population to colonize in the derogatory way
in which you mean it. Your colonizing is not, in
and of itself a derogatory thing. We talked about this
earlier in the show. If you're gonna go up and
you get a build something where nobody is, and right,
that's not the same as what is being implied by

(57:10):
these debbie downers. And then let me flip over to
this yeah, whereas a yeah, and then you got these
articles the art of his moon based project is legally dubious?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Oh is it? Is it legally dubious? Huh? I don't
know about all that.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
And then so they get up there, and then immediately
they find out the toilet's broken. So right after Jimmy
Kimmel gets done mocking the job of plumbers, they all
have to now be plumbers up there, and they were
able to get the toilet working. So, like, there's so
much going on, let's get raisedagic from the weather channel here.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
If he's ready to rock and roll. How you doing,
mister stagic good?

Speaker 15 (57:55):
There's room for a toilet and a capsule that's the
size of too minivans.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I guess here's the bigger mystery, and I'll let you
answer it. So I don't sure get canceled.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Which astronaut do you think had to tinkle five minutes
into the road trip? I don't know, Dobby, if you
had to get if you had to guess which astronaut,
like the before you've even hit the interstate it had
to go potty, which of the four astronauts do you
think it might be?

Speaker 15 (58:24):
I'm gonna stay away from that one for the same.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Reason as you are.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Well, I'm not. I'm asking the question. Man, I don't
know what you're talking about right now. Okay, all right,
So why'd you try to cook it yesterday? Don't do
that again.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
No, we won't.

Speaker 15 (58:38):
Well into the eighties, many of us had some spotty
showers west, and they even stayed for the most part
west of the triad, so we kind of even backed
off on the rain chances the.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Next few days.

Speaker 15 (58:50):
That one report in the mountains of an isolated storm
there was eight hundreds of an inch in Ashville and
then up in Wataga County reported, So there were a
couple of out there, but everybody's gonna see mainly dry
weather today with sunshine near eighty are just above the
warmest readings in the triangle near sixty. Tonight, little mid eighties, Tomorrow,

(59:11):
little cloud early, and then Saturday looking real good, plenty
of sunshine, little bit eighties, and that chance of showers
is much better by Sunday into Sunday night, and that
will cool off the more seasonable temperature. So Easter Sunday
going to be a little bit of wet weather around,
but then temperatures back to reality. We're back into the
upper sixties for Monday and Tuesday. It does look like
we're not really gonna get much rain. So there's another

(59:33):
statement out today about the fire weather danger from the
Weather Service through tonight eleven am to eight pm today.
They've been putting these out just about daily. Low relative community,
gusty winds increase wildfires today across the area. So it
goes a burnband for the entire state. So that layer helps,

(59:53):
and it helps too if you don't do silly things right,
So if you're a smoker, don't throw cigarette butts out
the window for one thing. So those are some of
the other things you can do because it is like
a tinder box out there and I don't see a
lot of change, which I did my homework.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Casey leads us in.

Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
The next Friday, Yeah, for Augusta and the Masters.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
What do we got is the first round Friday? Practice Thursday?
No either way? Wait, do you not know what golf
tournament works? Yeahs first round, yes, right.

Speaker 15 (01:00:23):
Thursday, mid seventies, sunny and right now, looks like there's
going to be a big area of high pressure. Settle again,
no rate in the forecast warm lod to me Davies
right through Sunday, with the warmest day being Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
All right, looks great, Yes, loving it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
All right, Thank you, Sarah. We're talking an hour and
we'll be right back. We'll grab a couple of calls
next hang away.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Hold on, can you can you just tell people? People
are freaking out thinking we're playing the unedited version of
that little boy. They think he's dropping the F bomb
and he's not dropping the F bom.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
He's saying freaking you know why, because I saw people
positioning and ask him saying it. Yeah, they're making a
meme ount of him, and they're for it, and it
makes it and it made me upset because I'm like,
the kid did not drop the Like if I was
the kid's parents, it'd be like, yo, he didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
I set Ross two separate videos of it. What one's
a higher quality lower quality literally because it was being
the way it was being positioned was inaccurate, or they
have people bleeping it when it doesn't need to be
just bleeped. And then I did see one video where
clearly somebody added had AI voice added to it, where
he does say the effort. He did not say the
effort on the broadcast as best I can tell from

(01:01:29):
CNN's actual website. But then you know, maybe CNN is
on the conspiracy I don't know, but anyway, we'll be
back hang on program along with Ross Hayes phone number
eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four

(01:01:49):
if you want to the show. That's how you make
it happen right there. Glad to have you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
With us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
See see, ye, I just made it all dirty and stuff.
I saw a couple big accounts who were promoting the
idea that the kid owned CNN over a BS question
by yelling the f wort at him to the point
where people were under they were in the comments arguing
about parenting. So yeah, My other theory is it's the

(01:02:23):
latest Mandela effect.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Oh so you think he said in our version is
a freaking version. Yeah, and then we got popped into
another universe. You and I, Yeah, we're not in the
fun one anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Really makes you You know what I'm saying right now,
you don't because I've bleeped it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
All right, let me grab a couple of calls. Taylor,
you're up first, go ahead. Hey, how you doing? Good? Sir?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's good. This is Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I'm fifty four years old.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
So in my opinion of what the sixty nine moon
lighting was quite not formed at the moment. But my
mom tells the story of how she and her family
were all gathered around the television and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
The landing was about to happen, and just about when it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Going to actually happen, their uncle came in and said, hey,
I hope you guys have a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Good time watching a movie, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I hope it comes out well and just went off
the bed right before I touchdown. And till the day
he died. They never could convince me.

Speaker 15 (01:03:18):
It was real.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Well, you know that that's apathy. I was looking for,
like the aggressiveness, So I'll take apathy. I'll take empathy
all day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
And it was aggressively apathetic. He looked aggressively apathetic.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
But now you have these journalists who are like, oh,
thanks for the call. How can we figure out a
way to crap all over people's parade. Oh I'm sorry too,
all over people's parade, And it's like, just for a moment,
and I just I can't, for the life of me,
assume that that's the way it was during the initial
moonshot Man Bill go right ahead, Good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:03:55):
Casey, best show on talk show on Radio boy or.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
None, thank you, sir.

Speaker 14 (01:03:59):
Hright was in my twenties when the moon landings were
going on and the family gathered around the TV et cetera.
And the big memory I had was everybody was just
amazed and filled with pride. It was a break from
the Vietnam War controversy. It really was unifying. The only

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grape I had was on CBS, Walter Kronkite wouldn't shut
up telling us all he knew, and we couldn't hear
the astronaut speaking to the base.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Yeah, you know what, that's funny because generally when you
see people have pulled clips together from that day, Kronkite
features prominently in there, but it's just little shots of it.

Speaker 16 (01:04:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
There's that lean he's doing when Armstrong's talking.

Speaker 14 (01:04:46):
You know those times he had to tell us how
he knew everything that was going on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Okay, well that's the way it was or something. All right, Well, thanks,
thanks for that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Yeah, they always had little snippets of concrete concred and
realized he just wouldn't shut his mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
So the more. This is why we do the show.
So we learned stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
And on a day when we're going to Spain olthough,
Russ I will tell you in my favorite theories was
that the Artemis was a grand April Fools thing put
on by Trump just because it coincided with April first
being the launch date. And then they were just gonna
pull the rug, which wouldn't have made me happy but
would have amused me slightly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
So there is that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
And to discuss this and many many other things, here
we go, Stephen Kent joining us, not from the moon
not from the Artemis capsule, but from where are you at, sir,
in DC today or are you off doing CIA stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Off in my basement in northern Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Okay, all right, so let's go ahead and start with
the moon stuff. There's lots to unpack here just overall.
And we kind of mentioned it last week because NASA
was talking about some of the different programs and crafts
and things talk, you know, to build a base and
then eventually go to Mars. I was greeted with a

(01:06:09):
slew of negative nancies the BBC's Matt because they think
we're going to colonize.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I've assuming we have to find aliens to do that
in the negative sense that they mean it. The Verge
has an article here it is the Artemis moon based
project is legally dubious, except.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
It's just not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
So how are you approaching it? Are you excited that
we're doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah? You know. In twenty twelve, I was a newt
Gingrich voter. I was most excited about Gingrich or his
campaign when he was running in the Republican primary against
Mitt Romney at the time, and one of his main
planks was a moon base and he was sort of
beating the drum that China had a twenty year plan

(01:06:58):
to have a moon settlement and we were currently on
a forty year timeline. You know. Of course that didn't
happen for him, but I was excited about that optimistic
vision of we need to think a little bit bigger
than this rock that we live on if we're going
to continue to thrive as a species. And he started
consulting President Trump in two thousand and nineteen, towards the

(01:07:21):
end of Trump's first term, Newt Gingrich did on how
to get a good moon settlement going for cheaper than
what people had been telling him. So I feel like
I've kind of like won in the end, you know,
as a voter had.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Yesterday was interesting because Ross, you know, Ross was at
home watching it with the with the family, Kyla News,
same deal. I was out somewhere in a very busy restaurant,
and like busy to the point where it was so
noisy you could barely hear the moment that countdown clock
got inside a minute death silence just to tea.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
You could just hear the TV from the broadcast.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
And so I am all these people who say, well,
people don't care about the Moon that you don't want
to go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
This is dumb. This is a Trump vanity project.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Everybody in there, whether it was because they're just watching
an amazement or because they're old enough like me to
remember what happened with the Challenger, Yeah, they're just like,
but it does. But the everyone shut up, everyone tuned in,
everyone watched and then applauded man. And so I feel like,
even though you know, interest was waning.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Into the seventies, I always talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
I think now that you're dreaming bigger, like let's get
back there and let's get a base and let's get
to Mars. I think you've recaptured a lot of people wanted,
you know, getting excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
This, of course, yeah. I mean our excitement and our
curiosity is only going to be peaked based on actually
doing the thing. You know, And it was explains to
me yesterday. You know that we're doing something completely new here,
which is you know, annual missions versus every three year missions.

(01:09:02):
And in twenty twenty eight, before Trump wraps his final
term here, you know, we're going to put feedback on
the moon and we're going to start harvesting ice on
the dark side of the Moon that can be repurposed
and turned into fuel to reload our landers that are
going to land on the Moon. So like what we

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are talking about here is going to the Moon for
the first time and harvesting resources that then we can
go deeper into space with natural fuel. I mean, this
could change everything. That is so exciting. So I think
people are just starting to sort of wake up to
what's going on here with this renewed energy around space exploration,

(01:09:46):
and boy do we need it. It brings us hope
as a people.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
I think when going back to when Gingridge was talking
about the moon base, I think the practicality of a
lot of the things we're talking about from a cost standpoint, clearly,
but also from are we willing to spend potentially human capital, right,
So when they're talking about we're going to mine asteroids.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
We're going to do a moon base, We're going to
go to Mars.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
When Gingridge was talking about it, I think that you
could go either way on an argument as to whether
the technology was there. I think, and I'm going to
inject Elon into this, but also several others, right Bezos Branson.
I think with the advent of where we are with
all of these companies coming in there and just being
able to launch, launch, launch and bring the cost down

(01:10:31):
and relay. Like now, the technology is to the point
where it just makes so much more sense.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yeah, and you know, the technology doesn't get there unless
somebody is sort of agitating and pushing the issue. You know,
if we were all content with what we have currently
in terms of tech in our lives here on Earth,
nobody would be trying to push the envelope technologically. But
Elon Musk has completely changed the game. I mean, you
can say whatever you want about Elon, and I'm frustrated

(01:11:02):
with him more days than not, but he has sort
of put a fire underneath underneath us about what is possible,
and his big dreams become our big dreams and we're
seeing that play out right now. And look, I mean China,
China is also looking at the Moon. I don't really
know exactly what the threat could be. There's talk about,

(01:11:24):
you know, being able to actually weaponize the Moon. I
don't know much about that. But if China is trying
to be there in the next four to five years,
we need to beat them there first. And competition's good
for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
But also China says they're building us the aircraft carrier
from Avengers. So I you know, who knows, man. You know,
it's my favorite thing. You ever see the CIA documents
from the sixties to the cold word documents about what
we wanted to do on the Moon to mess with
the Russians.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
It's a fun As a CIA covert officer myself, I
can say, of course I have, but no, tell me
a little.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Bit about them. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
So this is so some some group of really smart
government people thought that one of the best ways to
essentially flex to the Russians so that they would not
dare engage with us in global thermal nuclear war was
to set off giant nukes on the Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
That they could then see this is this is an
actual thing. They were talking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
About, destroy the Moon to own the Soviet Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Man, yeah, that's the kind of stuff. You're like, Oh,
we just pushed the Moon into the Earth. We're all
going to die. I don't know why they didn't do it.
I'm glad they didn't do it. But that's where we
find ourselves. So you know, initially, as people are watching
this go up, we run into run into a minor
issue I guess the bathroom broke probably saw that. But

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but in an age when Jimmy Kimmel thinks plumbers are worthless,
all four of the astronauts apparently are plumbers, and they
got it fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
So yep, well, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Know we are. We are moving up and moving on.
I think this is an exciting time to be alive. So,
you know, I am one of these people who I
guess I kind of stopped thinking about the implications of
interplanetarium space travel. But you know, they sort of lead
us here. They lead us along by helping us to
think about what's possible. And yesterday I found myself really

(01:13:19):
thinking about what the future could be like if we
actually pull off these missions over the next three years.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked
everybody else this morning. So, which one of the astronauts
you think had to go potty five minutes into the
road trip.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I haven't learned their names off the top of my
If you had to guess, you're gonna have to tell me.
I mean, it could have been any of them. I
would have it would have been me if I were
on that ship. That's always me on every road trip.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I'll tell you this. They just had on the news.
They're talking about how they're rotating naps. I don't know
that you could give me all the sleep medicine. I
don't know that I could nap in that situation. I
don't know how they do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Pretty remarkable, Pretty remarkable.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Yeah, all right, so let me let me pivot over
to something else, because we've we we have definitely seen
this play out. So now the the Supergirl actress, what
is her name hanging to reload this, here we.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Go, Millie Milli alcohol, I'll talk.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Yeah, I went, well, that's why I wanted to look
at it, because I did not want to mispronounce that
last name. So she says she's breaking. She's bracing for
public backlash ahead of the June premiere because women in
franch and fan favorite franchises face scrutiny for quotes simply existing.
So we're doing this thing that let's I could just

(01:14:42):
do a laundry list, the she Holt, the Goast, the
all Women, Ghostbusters, the the Eternals, the where we've had
one of these things where either it's racism or it's sexism,
and and and it feels like a marketing stunt. Coupled
with a realalization that a project may not do as

(01:15:03):
well as you thought it was going to do. I mean,
do you have do you subscribe to any of these theories?
Because it keeps happening, and I feel like it's then
a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
I would I would say it as a self fulfilling prophecy.

Speaker 9 (01:15:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
You know, James Gunn's you know, most recent Superman movie
was largely a success. I mean, it did quite well
in the box office. It got good reviews. People enjoyed
the optimism and just fun energy of that movie. And
when I look at what's going on in this this

(01:15:40):
Supergirl film, Truth, Justice, whatever, we are sort of regressing
right back to the cynicism, the nihilism, the bad behavior
in people who are supposed to be heroes, and it's
it's just kind of pathetic. They are going right back
to the the well here and then immediately sort of

(01:16:02):
creating a cemical energy around how the movie's going to land.
I don't know why Millie Alcock is out there doing
press and talking trash about the fans, but this is
sort of a go to for a lot of Hollywood
leading women, and I don't get what the strategy is.
You would think that pr offices within you know, d

(01:16:23):
C and Warner Brothers and Lucasfilm, that they can restrain
what these people do when they talk to journalists, but
they just don't, and it destroys these movies out of
the gate. Fans will boycott your film out of spite
if you talk trash about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
No, no, it's not because they even I'm sorry to
I don't see it to spite. It's because now I've
been insulted. I'm the fan and you just told me
that I think you suck because I'm a bit, I'm
a sexist, So I think it's it's it's it's not
even spiite. Spite is where you didn't do anything to me.
Now you did something to me, and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
People repair to that retribution.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
What do you What are your favorite female superhero characters,
because this is the thing we act like any female
superhero character is initially hated.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
That's not true. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I love Black Widow Man, especially through all the Avengers,
and I think, uh, wonder Wonder women.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Uh I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
It's almost like Scarlet Scarlet Witch and Phoenix, but kind
of like going going back to like the X Men
world has always been my favorite, so Rogue, Scarlet, Witch,
the Phoenix. I I liked gal Gado as wonder Woman,
but you know it's it's just all you got to
do is just go into the role with some confidence.

(01:17:47):
I mean the Supergirl television show, you know, that was
a completely different vibe. That was cheery, that was fun.
It was sort of like all about Supergirl being you know,
the girl next door and then saving people. And then
they're going right back to the well of nastiness with
this Supergirl movie. But I will offer one well actually

(01:18:10):
about it, which is that we might we might see
in this movie, and I always like to go into
things of optimism. We might see in this movie that
Alcock is basically capturing the cynical, you know, gen Z
girl in a female hero role at the beginning of
the film and then be transformed by the end of

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the movie. I think that we should always leave some
room for a character to develop based on what we
see in the trailers, and the trailers is only showing
us a burnout, drunkard young woman who seems to have
no direction. I have a hard time believing the movie
is going to end that way.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yeah, now you're probably right. I and again, I this
is one of those things. I would have watched this movie,
and who knows, maybe I still will. I'm just getting
so tired of like I can hear critical drinker Nerdrotic
writing their videos that'll probably appear later.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Today and maybe already are up there and it's all there. Yeah, yeah,
well I just yesterday I was just like, show me
the moon stuff. I'm gonna watch the moon stuff. Plus
and again.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I also you probably heard it during the open like
I had to, and it kind of sucked for the
moon part of it because a lot of people and
I've had that comment in my inbox, just were because
of all of the AI slop April fool stuff, like
they disconnected from social media and they didn't even they
had forgotten that the launch was taking place, because that's

(01:19:39):
really where they get their current events from.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yeah, and you can tell them if we don't have
time for this. But you know, I really, I really
always try to implore fans to just go see the
movie and don't worry too much about trailers. I went
yesterday to go see an advanced screening of the Animal
Farm movie by Andy Serkis produced by Angel Studios. You know,
they've started doing in DC and in LA some advanced

(01:20:04):
screenings to more conservative audiences because there was an initial
amount of blowback to the trailer, which seems to express
that Animal Farm was not going to be a communism
critique but a capitalism critique. And so Andy Serkis joined
us in this room via a zoom call and introduced
the Animal Farm movie. You know, just loved on it

(01:20:25):
and talked about it. And he also spoke to the
people in the room, which was a lot of conservative
staffers in Washington, d C. And just told them like,
I love this story, and I think that conservatives are
going to find a lot and that they really recognize
to be true. He knew who he was talking to,
He respected his audience, and he appreciated the philosophy that

(01:20:45):
brought everybody to the room, which is that we dislike
totalitarianism and that then the PR guy who was in
the room promoting the movie, he just said one thing
to us, which is, I really believe you're going to
love this movie. I know the trailers hurt some of you,
but I really believe you're gonna love this Why can't
these people just say that when they sit down with

(01:21:06):
Vanity Fair we're talking about their movie. I hear I
think you're gonna love it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Yeah, and then maybe you do, maybe you don't. Then
you decide whether you're going to take that person seriously
in the future. We're gonna have to leave it there, Stephen,
but I appreciate it. And we'll have more Moon discussion
next week for sure, So we'll talk to you then
the Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
All right, we'll be back. Hang on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
A Alabama TV news anchor is well, let's just say
people are not pleased with her.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
I will say this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I don't know if she's necessarily the one to blame,
but she is the face of it. So there's a
TV station ABC thirty three down in Alabama's in Birmingham,
and at the end of their newscast they do a
thing where they try to end the thing with an

(01:21:56):
inspirational or a topical quote from somebody, and that's a
regular thing they do it. Apparently it's a Sinclair own station,
by the way, So you have what is this The
woman's name, Ashanti Ford, who is the anchor there. So
six pm broadcast she's wrapping it up and it's time

(01:22:19):
to go ahead and provide a quote, and she does.
Here we go, well, hold on smarter to turn that on. Okay,
here we go, and that's all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:22:29):
We have for the news at six.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
But before we go, a quote from the.

Speaker 15 (01:22:32):
Founder of the Islamic Brotherhood requires you to come. The
more you're able.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
To hear whoops, what jeez man?

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Yes, the Muslim Brotherhood a recognized terrorist organization. You'll remember
them as the folks who tried to burn Egypt to
the ground, gang raped Ms Logan over there, and generally
partnered with all the other people we we feel her
terrorists as well. Well, not all of them, because there
is a little certain level of infighting. But yeah, some

(01:23:05):
people were questioning the decision to go ahead and end
the newscast with a.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Quote from a terror founder of a terrorist organization.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Now, immediately people went to social media demanding that she
everything from apologized to essentially I guess self immolate.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
But they wanted her fired.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Well, they didn't address it again, They just kind of
they saw what was going on. And then finally finally
one of the senators, Tommy Tuberville, did weigh in, and
at that point, the news director's name is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Jeff Cox apologized.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
He said, I want to take a moment to address
concerns about our broadcast last Thursday. The intent of our
closing segment is always to end the newscast on a
positive and thoughtful note. The quote included that evening was
not intended to convey political or ideological message. However, we
understand it was perceived that way and on behalf of

(01:24:09):
the station. I sincerely apologize to those who were offended. Okay,
you may not have intended to, but I will say this,
somebody selected it. Because he points out that the on
air talent are not the ones who go ahead and

(01:24:30):
select it. So you skipped over the other part, then
clearly you had an editor selected. So even if people
are misdirected by thinking that she did it, I think
the thing still stands where your audience down there in
Alabama probably wants the scalp of whoever did put it
on there. And again, you may not intend it, but

(01:24:53):
this is easy to filter.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Let me give it. Let me give you an example. Okay,
give me let me U. Let me give you an example.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
All right, h what was the I'm ture I remember
the original guy's name was because actually It was a
quote that was reused. Hang on, just a sex, so
I could be as accurate as possible here, why is
this thing being a pain?

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
There we go?

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
All right, Ross, I leave you tonight with a quote
from German author Lorenz Diefenbach, later repurposed by what.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
What you work will set you free?

Speaker 12 (01:25:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
No, no, what.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
I just want people to go out and yell be
a productive member of society. Work, work, Well, we'll set
you free. Do you argue with Lorenz Diefenbach and later
Ah Hitler?

Speaker 9 (01:25:43):
The uh?

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Sorry, who the second one? Diefenbach.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Diefenbach was a German author from the night eighteen seventies. Yeah,
so that was a quote from him. Oh the other guy,
Ah Hitler?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Work? Who sets you free? I don't think the name
was Itler.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
I'm just just reading the teleprompter, man, That's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I got to read the teleprompter. No, it's absurd, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
How about an inspirational quote from former President Lyndon Johnson? No,
why no, we'll have those voting for us forever. I
bleeped it. Are you happy? Okay? Anyway back to mister Hitler. Yeah,
so like it matters to demonstrate who you choose, but

(01:26:36):
also the quote you choose, it matters. And to end
this segment with an inspirational quote from d Duke, former
presidential candidate President of the Klan, No, I'm like you
get the point, so and and and for those of

(01:26:57):
you go and these are absurd comparisons to if you
did a David Duke quote, that would almost be on
par with a Muslim Brotherhood founder quote. You realize that, right,
because you're you're swimming in the same pool there. So
the fact that that slipped through sounds like you have
some bigger issues all right, back over, got a couple

(01:27:19):
other pieces of audio. We're gonna get these, get through these.
So Trump, Uh dude, people are speculating Trump, but yesterday
when he spoke, was gonna do everything from like quit
NATO to uh who had reveal Aliens? I saw like
perfect timing. Artemis is up there. The Aliens are gonna
meet him. Oh Ross, did you see that, the theory
that the Artemis was going up and it was gonna

(01:27:39):
be the big alien reveal. Oh I didn't hear where
you're having like first contact. Yeah, we're gonna do it
in space, not in Wyoming. So my Devil's tower. Yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna go up to space, I guess,
and I don't know, a handshake photo or something. That's
not what he did. He really went in on the
Iran stuff. But he said something really important. Let's get
into this.

Speaker 7 (01:27:58):
American involvement in World War One lasted one year, seven
months and five days. World War two lasted for three years,
eight months and twenty five days. The Korean War lasted
for three years, one month and two days. The Vietnam
War lasted for nineteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
By the way, on the left screen, those weren't wars,
those were civil The police actually shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
He's making this point. We'll call it a conflict.

Speaker 16 (01:28:28):
Five months and twenty nine days.

Speaker 7 (01:28:31):
Iraq went on for eight years, eight months and twenty
eight days. We are in this military operation, so powerful,
so brilliant, against one of the most powerful countries for
thirty two days, and the country has been eviscerated and
essentially is really no longer a threat.

Speaker 16 (01:28:53):
They were the bully of the Middle East, but they're
the bully no longer.

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
This is a true investment in your children, your grandchildren's future.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
So and then he speculates that there's about two weeks left.
I know the Iranians responded, They're like, dah, we're gonna
We're gonna totally annihilate America.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
I also like how I saw some people who are
so ignorant of this. They're like, you're going to force
Iran to start killing US soldiers?

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Was a line that I saw.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
You know, they murdered and one in one incident they
murdered better than two hundred and thirty marines. Right, what
do you mean they're gonna start? But the part that
I think is really important, and this is less for
the American public and more for Europe and a handful
of other powers around the world, is.

Speaker 7 (01:29:43):
This so to those countries that can't get fuel, many
of which refuse to get involved in the decapitation of
her n, we had to do it ourselves. I have
a suggestion, number one, by oil from the United States
of America.

Speaker 16 (01:29:57):
We have plenty, We have so much and number to
build up.

Speaker 7 (01:30:00):
Some delayed courage should have done it before, should have
done it with us, as we asked, go to the
strait and just take it, protect it, use it for yourselves.

Speaker 16 (01:30:11):
Iran has been essentially decimated.

Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
The hard part is done, so it should be easy
and in any event, when this conflict is over, the
strait will open up naturally.

Speaker 16 (01:30:23):
It'll just open up naturally. They're going to want to
be able to sell oil because that's all they have
to try and rebuild.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
This is really.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
There's a lot to this. Okay, first and foremost, we
are a net energy exporter. Now shut down the straight
of her mews. Her moves, even though we can produce
internally what we need, does not let us off the
hook unless Trump took some sweeping action where he disallowed
US companies to export oil and then was trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Stabilize it at home.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
But the fact, but it harms us much less than
these European nations who are sitting on their hands.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
You know what the President of France.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Was doing yesterday, you see the video of him, Other
than getting slapped by his wife probably again, he was
doing dragon ball z hand poses in front of the
Japanese Prime Minister. But you know, Trump made a joke,
so he's the bad guy here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
This is far worse for the You're pantomiming like fireballs
in front of the Prince. A look at your RIGHTHO.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
He's doing this with the yeah, with the hand where
you get the one hand flat and the other hand
over it with the fingers curled.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
That's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
This.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
If they shut the straight ho horror moves, you guys
are cooked. You're cooked over in Europe. I So that's Trump,
you know, Trump going in this direction and with what
Rubio said, you know we hey, you know what we were.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
We were here to protect.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
You when we needed to use the bases that we
pay for and stimulate your economies with you. Wouldn't you said, no,
don't come calling. Bad things happen. So there's there's a
there's a lot of lot of uh, you know, under
stories in that statement that was made. Okay, I gotta
go to ram just looking over the clack here, I'm

(01:32:15):
very irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Oh all right, I'm gonna have to speed running today.
So what's going on?

Speaker 16 (01:32:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:32:22):
Not much more dry weather, dangerously dry, let's go that way.
New drought monitors out and not gonna see much change.
So not much rain till Sunday, chance of showers easter Sunday.
We'll be in the eighties, probably low eighties to mid eighties,
right on through Saturday, then back into the seventies on Sunday,
and then more seasonal meeting where we should be by
early next week with sunshine Monday Tuesday in the midnight

(01:32:44):
for sixties. So I'll have chilly overnight lows two maybe
down in the forties, so a lot of dry weather.
Only chance here now if any substantial rain or any
significance might be on Easter Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Okay, all right, we'll get back with it tomorrow. See
you then, and we'll come back with Bloomberg news next Spellgrenia, Denise,
what's happening?

Speaker 17 (01:33:02):
Well, if you paid a lot for a spring break
trip or any other trip to the coast lately and
hotel bill was huge, here's part of the reason why. Uh,
you can blame it on unwealthy Americans. Apparently they're spending
more on travel and hotel developers are really struggling to
keep up. To keep up, co Stars says there are

(01:33:23):
currently no new luxury beachfront hotels at all under construction
in the US, and that imbalance is driving room rates
way higher, feeding the fierce competition among investors as well.
Casin point is the Naples Beach Club that's on the
Gulf Coast, Florida. It's a rarity, and it's charging some
pretty hefty prices because it's pretty much the only game

(01:33:45):
in town out there. Meantime, how do you like to
have a new AI coworker that rats you out when
you're not doing so well? Kusai has created a workplace
with a virtual AI employee called Junior. Behaves like a
new hire, you know, very very motivated. For two thousand

(01:34:06):
dollars a month, Junior can perform tasks for companies like
drafting marketing campaigns, updating customer relationship management systems, generate reports,
and let the boss know casey if you've messed upon
something or if you're lazing out a bit. Movie business
looks to be pretty good for Super Mario Galaxy hitting theaters.

(01:34:26):
It's already breaking box office records in the early going.
Deadline says the animated sequels nagged the best opening day
so far this year in the US. It's made thirty
four million bucks already in sales, putting it ahead of
Project Hail Mary before it opened a few weeks ago.
Bloomberg Intelligence says watch for this new Super Mario film
to top the charts this weekend. One hundred and thirty

(01:34:48):
two one hundred and fifty million dollars in sales. Red
Lobster plans to bring back that endless shrimp as soon
as this month. It's one of the chain's most popular
Promos's bringing back to help blure customer and fuel growth
for a limited time. Interesting choice, casey, because it's a previous,
long standing endless shrimp offer fed Red Lobster's demise, you

(01:35:10):
might say, significant losses that contributed to its bankruptcy back
in twenty twenty four. Speaking of bankruptcy, kind of crazy
out there on Wall Street. Dow futures down six, twenty six,
SMP futures losing five, Nasdaq futures down almost two percent
after President Trump vowed to hit Iran harder despite saying

(01:35:31):
the US could exit the war earlier this week. And
I know you guys kind of teased about how I
got all breathless and panicky about what I saw crude
oil futures doing a couple of weeks ago. Today it's
even worse. Crude oil futures are up eleven percent, almost
twelve percent. Yep, it just flipped to twelve percent now.

(01:35:52):
Nymex crude one hundred and twelve dollars and fifty cents
a barrel. I mean, we had prices in the fifties
and the sixties back in December, so now we're talking
about way more than double crude oil prices.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
I mean, you have the President last night saying that
the Europe's on their own to open the straight of
horror moves. Yeah, probably go.

Speaker 17 (01:36:17):
Get the oil yourself. Yeah, Trump vowing to hit iron Heart.
The problem is trying to talk to multiple audiences at once, right,
talk to Wall Street, talk to domestic supporters, talk to
domestic naysayers, message to Iran at the same time, and
to the allies rather and Wall Street's not loving it,

(01:36:39):
I gotta say. And we're going into the long holiday weekend.
Bond markets open tomorrow, but the stock market is closed,
So if people are positioning themselves for what is happening
between now and Monday, there's just a lot of uncertainty.
And three days is a long time in a war.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's you know, considering we're thirty two days in.
As he made a point to point out, that's a
significant percentage. And you use the word allies too. Between
what he's saying and Rubio's saying I don't know if
allies is the word you'd use for a lot of
these European countries right now.

Speaker 17 (01:37:12):
They're wondering then, And that didn't just start with this either.
I mean he's said things about NATO that were earth
shattering to that whole world which is built on you know.
I mean I've been to NATO headquarters. It's practically like
a country. Yeah, it's very well established it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
I'm not going to say some of that criticism wasn't earned, though, No,
I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:37:34):
There's always a question about who should be paying what
for which burden, and those are you know, those should
be constructive conversations.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
Yeah, all right, Well, Denise, I got a roll, but
we will. We'll see what insanity ensues tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:37:49):
Or get an electric vehicle?

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Yeah? Oh did you? I saw Ford said that they're
going to have a Tesla beater out next year. Do
you see that story? Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:37:57):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:37:58):
And also Stillentis is looking at making evs now up
in Canada after you know, they kind of scaled back
and they all went back to the gas guzzlers because
those are the big money makers and people love those cars.
But it's getting a little complicated. It could be temporary.
We'll see, we'll see, it could be amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
All right, we'll chat tomorrow before then, and there you go,
Denisa Pellagreeney, Bloomberg News
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