February 11, 2026 • 48 mins
Gov. Pillen responds to the accusations about the no-bid contract, his personal life, that comment made last month, the Moos book, and more. And that's just part of today's show, which also featured the latest on the Guthrie story, Jim's impressive Norwegian-to-English translation, and a psychiatrist looking at whether "TDS" is a real thing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great to have you with us, and thank you so
much for hanging out here with us. This is Nebraska's
morning news news radio eleven ten KFAB with Craig Evans
and Lucy Chapman and Jim Rose. I am Scott Vorhees.
Thanks so much for hanging out with us here on
Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station. Well, first things first, Lucy,
(00:23):
if if you need to watch a movie from space,
you can do so here in the KFAB studios. In
the engineers here, see, we have a TV monitor in
the studio and it was it was TV monitor size
for a studio of this girth. It was it was
a just a regular monitor. Well then that failed, so
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they found a little leitty bitty one and they said
this is just temporary because we have a new one
coming next week. Great. They installed it yesterday. It's the
size of the Quasar drive in movie theater screen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you have attached speakers?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Cars are lining up, They're wondering what frequency to turn to.
I said, actually, it's amplitude eleven ten am. And you
can watch watch TV with us here in the studio
from miles away. It's Frank's two thousand inch TV here
it's a drive in movie theater. We're showing Twister at
noon today.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's going to bet or this follow up.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Either one of them, it would be fine, but I'll
go with the first one.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
If you're watching, yeah, it's it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Stands out, it's and I know that no one you
would think, like, why are you talking about this in
the radio? We can't see it. You can. Actually it's
that big. It's in fact.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we just got a call from the Federal Aviation
Commission right and they said you need to turn that
off because it's jamming all of our landing radar at
Epley Airfield.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
If you were watching TV last night, I hope that
you kept watching TV last night. Lucy just came into
the studio. He goes to squash, Look at this isn't
that big? I know it's burning. Yeah, I don't know
if you caught Lucy's comment.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Measure just like a man.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, we're measuring that TV from the spine. So it's
burning my retinas. If I didn't comment on it right here,
then it would just bother me all day. I'll get
used to it. Maybe we get used to things, right.
It's like a supernova. Yeah, if you were watching TV
last night, I hope you didn't just give up at
halftime or even early in the second half, because this
(02:35):
Nebraska basketball team is rivaling my favorite sports teams of
all time, and that's the nineties Huskers, the eighties Huskers.
I grew up with the eighties Lakers. I grew up
with this Nebraska basketball team. This season, I just love
these guys.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, they didn't lose, they just ran out of time
last night. I mean, it was a lot of fun
to watch that back. And you know, that's a gritty bunch.
I mean, those guys just don't quit their veterans, they
don't quit on each other, and they just make play
after play after play. And when you're down twenty two,
when you're down twelve with two forty five to go,
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that's usually a cue for Husker fans to head home.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And they didn't. We were just nice. It was like
down fourteen with just a couple of minutes left, as
you said there, and I saw the comeback start to snowball,
and I said to my wife, I said, there's not
enough time. It's too no.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I told my wife, there is enough time. She gave
up like halfway through the second half. I said, this
game's not over. I'm working the Rosie Diginozi and watching
the game at the same time, and I go, don't worry,
there's plenty of time. And then she's getting all excited.
And then when a rink mass missed the foul shot,
you galloed upside. It was a fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Omaha Steaks said they're not delivering directly to restaurants anymore,
but the restaurants could still order the Omaha Steaks online
like everyone else, like here's the Sweetheart package. They're just
not doing that kind of things. And of course restaurants
here in Omaha are like, but we have orders that
we were hoping to come in this week Valentine's Day.
(04:11):
People want steak. Omaha Steaks is like, yeah, sorry, we're done.
So restaurants are scrambling.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right now, which just two days left.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, Jericho's, well, three days, but yeah, it's a tough spot.
Jericho's announced that Valentine's Day be their last day and
they're calling it a history, an incredible history here for Omaha.
As Craig reported, they got a guy in custody, detained
him overnight. This is a delivery guy who lives south
of Tucson, who delivers him Tucson. Then they released him.
(04:44):
He talked to the media said I don't have anything
to do with any of this stuff, Like have you
ever delivered a package to her home? I don't know.
It sounds like someone saw the video and saw the
guy's eyes or facial features through that mask and thought
about a guy they know, and thought, yeah, he's probably
cold blooded kidnapper, and then they called the FBI on him.
So he needs to reevaluate all of his friends and probably, uh,
(05:09):
I don't know, dude, some sort of facial reconstructive surgery
if he looks like the kind of person who would
kidnap an older woman. And on Capitol Hill yesterday, this
is a representative La Monica Mackaiver of New Jersey. If
that name's familiar. She was the one who was detained
while trying to get in to an ice detention center
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in the area, and she was grilling the ice directory
yesterday for answers.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
We are here for accountability, and we are here because
people are dying. Let me repeat that people are dying,
and you don't seem to care. So, mister Lyons, I've
heard my colleagues ask many questions over and over again,
and you cannot answer them. So let me ask you
some questions that you may be able to answer. Mister Lyons,
(05:56):
do you consider yourself a religious man?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes, ma'am?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Oh, yes, okay, Well, how do you think Judgment Day
will work for you with so much blood on your hands?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm not going to entertain that question.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Oh okay, of course not. Do you think you're going
to hell? Miss the Lions?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm not going to enter What is the matter with
this woman? Let me ask you a question, What in
the world is the matter with you? Talking there to
the acting Director of Ice, Todd Lyons. That is a
representative Lamonica MacIver from New Jersey yesterday. More on that
(06:33):
throughout the morning. Governor Jim Pillen will be a guest
in our program. He's been the subject of a lot
of conversations here recently, including the Rosie de Genozi the
other day. He's on with us at seven thirty five
this morning. Jim did report that there was a spike
of viewership of the Super Bowl at the end of
the second quarter. People were making it a political statement
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or they This is a wide group of people in
this country who maybe aren't interested in football, but they
like Bad Bunny. He is, after all, one of the
most popular artists on the planet.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
As the most downloaded songs on Spotify on the planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And there are people who say, I forget the game,
which was forgettable throughout the first half. I want to
watch the Bad Bunny. So people were tuning in to
see Bad Bunny. But now we have the realization that
it is not good for your career not to have
appreciated the Bad Bunny halftime show. As Jill from the
(07:34):
Real Housewives of New York as, everyone knows who I'm
talking about, right, I don't, does anyone? I mean, these
shows must be incredibly popular, Lucy. All I hear about
is the Real Housewives.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I don't know anything about the New York No, do
you watch some of those I used to watch Beverly
Hills and Orange County.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, Jill from the Housewives of New York cast they
were going to do an upcoming reunion series called The
Golden Life of the Real Housewives of New York, but
Jill has not been invited back. Why because she went
on social media and said, that's the worst halftime show ever.
(08:18):
She didn't like the fact, she said that his dancing
Bad Bunnies dancing was inappropriate. Oh, just the part where
he had his hand on his junk for several moments
of the show. I guess she wasn't allowed not to
appreciate that. She said that the show looked like a
political statement because she literally saw no white people in
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the entire thing. Well, yeah, Jill, it was supposed to
be the sugarcane fields and villages of Puerto Rico, so
it might have looked a little colonial to have just
a bunch of white people. Yeah, we had people in
there who look like Puerto Ricans, and then a bunch
of white people taking pictures, going hey, this is great.
(09:00):
Can I get a selfie? Can someone give me a drink?
I don't work here, this is where I live. Oh okay, Yeah,
it might have looked a little dumb to have white
people in it. And she says, well, it felt like
an anti ice thing in the NFL sold out. She
didn't like Bad Bunny singing entirely in Spanish, and so
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she had an opinion, and they said, well, then you
can't come to the Real Housewives of New York reunion show.
You are not.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Allowed opinions are no longer allowed. Well, you know, it's
unless you know you agree with them.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They're right. Tolerance always a one way street.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well that's my way or no way.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's how it works, though. I mean, you say something
someone else might say, all right, Well, it's not like
we're squashing your First Amendment right to say it. But
we also have a right not to invite you to
our party and you can't come on the Real House.
Is a New York show?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Tell me a super Bowl that somebody hasn't said, that's
the worst super Bowl halftime show I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What I mean. Lucy has famously never watched any of it.
But I think generally the results to come back that
the best super Bowl halftime shows of all time have
been Prince Brute. I've always thought Bruno Mars did the
best one. I'm a big Michael Jackson fan, so that
was pretty cool seeing that in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So there may be somebody didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Top three, right, but there was someone watching as Prince
as the rain was coming down in that stadium, and
he's up there with his little purple electric guitars singing
Purple Rain in the rain and it was a super
cool moment. There was someone sitting there watching it, all
arms fold of going born. So absolutely there was going
(10:53):
on MySpace. This is the worst halftime show I have
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know it happened right, there's.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A MySpace reference for you, anyone.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I thank you old school. I remember my friend Whitney saying, Scott,
I know you're on MySpace, but a lot of us
from college are going over to Facebook now like Facebook,
the heck is that I don't need that. I have MySpace. Yeah,
I've not exactly been cutting.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah. I still have records, and not in like a
cool hipster way. Hey, records are coming back. I know
people have records. A record he's got a record player.
Nicely done, Lucy. Lucy is the official conspiracy theorist here
on this program. If people are going to have those
cameras that have or the doorbell cameras, wouldn't you think
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that if you're going to have them, we should be
able to access the images taken from the cameras at
some point prior to a week and a half after
maybe mom was kidnapped and there's a guy there. Now,
finally we see pictured on the front porch, wearing a
ski mask and some weird like vinyl looking gloves and
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seem to have a weapon on him and all the
rest of this stuff. A week and a half later
and we get an image of this guy with pretty
eyes and a bad mustache wearing a mask. It kind
of looks like a Mexican wrestler from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Are you suggesting that this is the first time the
police have seen this photo?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's what they said, they're lying, that they had a
hard time getting it, that they well, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not lying, they're protecting the case.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
One of two things that's true. Either you take them
at their word, in other words, not Lucy's suggestion that
they're lying.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I took that back.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's why I will will allow for that possibility. But
the first one is we'll take them at their word
because this guy had destroyed the camera and it's hard
to go in there and convince the piece people who
store these images or whatever with the companies to release
to law enforcement. But I would think if I live
at the home, or if that's my mom's house and
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she's gone and we got to access that, I don't
want some company going, no, not unless we can talk
to the homeowner and get permission to release these. A
homeowner might be tied to a chair someplace with one
little light bulb swinging over her in a dark room
release the images. No, Like, there's got to be a
better way.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
If that happened, then I would I'm sorry, I would
cheer on the camera company because, well, in this case,
they need to have some kind of procedure that when
it's a case like this that they can bypass, of course,
but to make it hard for police to get those cameras.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think that's acceptable, That's fine, depending on the circumstance.
I would. I would hope though that everyone so often
you get any kind of technology and it's like click
here and agree to these terms. You bet no idea
what you just did your last probably fine. I would
hope that you would have some sort of all right,
(14:09):
in the event that I'm kidnapped by someone, that you
got an emergency contact, you'll release these images to them,
say my daughter, and then she can decide what to
do from there. I would hope that there'd be some allowance,
and if not, there should be. Now. Now, the other
side of this is that law enforcement was lying as
(14:31):
you intimate that you called them all big fat liars,
and you said you would fight Cash Betel anywhere anytime.
We had it on tape and I recorded it on
my doorbell camera.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well it's available for everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Then I guess, well, it's possible that they could do that,
because this happens sometimes. For example, the case of the
college students in Idaho. Police knew at the beginning who
their suspect was, but they acted like I had no idea.
They were trying to squeeze him and follow him and
monitor and get more evidence and all the rest of it.
We learned that later. I don't know that that would
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be the case here. We have a woman who no
idea what's going on here, So I don't know. That
doesn't seem likely here that they're just you know, playing
ropodope with some suspect. They grabbed this guy who lives
about an hour south of Tucson, which I thought was Mexico.
It's got to be really close. And they grabbed this
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guy and he's talking to the media later going they
told me I kidnapped Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie.
I'm like, who Yes, there are people in this country
have no idea any of this is going on. And
he said, I hope they find the guy who did
it so I can clear my name. It's a delivery
driver who does some deliveries around Tucson.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Wait stop, you've got to back up. Let's really look
at this. If the police arrested this and he lives
an hour away, there was something in that picture. There
was something in that location that made them believe. I
know that it didn't if you say a family member
also turned him.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
In, Uh, well no, someone someone who knows him said, yeah,
he's got kind of crazy looking eyes, a bad mustache,
and he looks like someone who might kidnap a nice
old lady. And he's now has to.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And if that's all that happened that led the police
to him, that's terrifying. They that says anybody can say
anything about anything.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Anytime they got a tip, they followed up on the tip.
They detained him, questioned him, released him, and now he
has to reevaluate his friends. All right, Which one of
you guys thinks that maybe I'm a kidnapper, please let
me know. Kfab National correspondent Now Rory O'Neill to Nebraska's
Morning News. So they got a guy, then released a guy.
It didn't take very long, did it, Rory, No, it didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
They got this guy. They actually got a warrant to
search the home where he lived with his mother in law.
She had let them in. She said, you can come
in and look, there's nobody here. So it seemed that
they were cooperating. Now, exactly what went led from that
traffic stop near the Mexican border to have the officer
think that this person calls himself Carlos. So what made
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that officer think Carlos was somehow involved in the abduction
of Nancy Guthrie. That's still unknown, but he has been
cleared as part of their investigation. So I wouldn't say
we're back to square one only because we finally got
some images and some video released that might help finally
crack the case.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, we were just talking here. Why it took so long.
If you have this security at your home, I would
think that it would be there available for law enforcement
to be able to help you find someone who might
kidnap you. But it took a long time to get
that footage here from the camera on the doorbell right, because.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
The Guthrie family did not subscribe to that data saving option.
So instead it took anders at Nest and its parent
company Google to go back through and say, all right,
can we find this data in the cloud? Goes to
show you, by the way, that even when you stop subscribing,
Google is still watching. But in this case it's a
good thing. So they found this much that they released.
(18:15):
I'm curious to see how much other.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Video there may be.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
We know that there are reports that there were some
Nest cameras inside the home as well, so could they
recover some of that video. Let's see if there's more
of this that will obtain and seem publicly.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Released in the days ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Our official conspiracy theorist Lucy Chapman, got a really big
smile on her face when you mentioned that about Google
still watching us. Somewhere between all out police state and
help find the guy who kidnapped me. There's got to
be a happy medium for people when it comes to
this kind of thing. Also, Rory, you've been following, among
other things, yesterday in the day we got Ice and
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Homeland Security officials before Congress got a little fiery yesterday
when the acting Ice director mister Lyons was asked whether
he thought he was going to hell. How are these
hearings going in your eyes?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Well, I think he did well. Essentially. A lot of
his answers were I can't comment because it's an ongoing
investigation when talking about the shooting deaths of two of
the people who were demonstrating or protesting against the ice
operations there in Minnesota. And really wait until you see
what happens today when Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies. Remember
(19:27):
she went before a Senate committee last fall, and every
time a senator asked a question, she had this dossier
ready to punch back. She's probably doing it for the
House members today too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We'll be following it here. Rory, I know you will too.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Thanks, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I am Scott Boarh. He's here on news Radio eleven
ten kfab. We welcome back to the program someone who's
earned a lot of conversation here recently, and we're glad
to have him back on the program to join in
that conversation. Nebraska Governor Jim pill and Governor good morning.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Hey, good morning Jim, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm Scott. There's Jim, and so are you. That's all right?
Hellos enough, we got plenty of jims. Got well. And
her name is Jane. Jane Cleb, chair of the Nebraska
Democratic Party, says, quote, while families worry about rising costs
and a growing state deficit, Jim Pillen is awarding no
bid contracts to a female friend and jetting overseas with her.
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And Nebraskans deserve serious leadership, not chaos, insults and cronyism.
We had the state auditor Mike Foley on here. He's
had questions about this no bid contract. Governor please respond.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Number one. I'm in my fourth
year of being the governor Nebraska and Srugerant Pulagh, I'm
not a politician. I'm working to run government like a business.
I'm the first governor of agriculture in one hundred years.
We're now number one in ethanol, we're number one in
cattle ethanol demand is incredible, but we have to do
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more to be able to grow agriculture Nebraska. Make sure
Nebraska corn farmers and soybean farmers knew more. And that
is a part of the bid where second generation ethanol.
I didn't understand it until I became governor and the
transition where like it Blair, there's we are making plastics
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and amino assets and polypropylene from ethanol. So that's the bioeconomy.
The legislature appropriated. The legislature appropriated up to a two
and a half million dollars amount for a consultant to
help us get more than our first share of federal
dollars back home from Nebraska. If you remember back then,
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the Biden administration had the Inflation Reduction Act money. They
had to eight hundred million dollars billion dollars that they
were giving out. We were nowhere to be found. This
legislature appropriated, gave us ninety days. They gave us from
April to June thirtieth to find a contractor. When you
(22:03):
do an RFP, it takes time. I did not want
to lose time. We did the exception of the rule.
It's a sole source, it's contract, it's what every other
governor has done, and the proofs in the putting this
contract generated three hundred and seven million dollars one hundred
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and fifty x of the costs. And Nebraskans want a
governor that runs government like a business, cut the way
spending getting more than our fair share. So week in
Brewer economy, this money is going to make a big difference.
Why the emergency guys really simple. We can't lose time.
(22:47):
Time is a essence. That's that's as simple as the
story gets with when we talk about it. No contract, bid,
or whatever the case is, that's as simple as it is.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A statues Jim require that any contract over fifty thousand
dollars go to a an RFP in a bid. So
the question becomes with ninety days, why didn't we start
the RFP bid process on April first.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Because that's when the money was appropriated from the Appropriations committee.
That's there's no sense in starting at a tarp unless
you have the money approved. The legislature approves the money.
I couldn't say I'm going to go do this. That
is the legislature's privilege. They appropriated the money, and it's
that that started somehow that's getting lost in the shuffle.
(23:35):
That's that's how it works. You follow the law. That's
how it works.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Would you welcome there is.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And again we followed, we followed the law. You can
do this contract you can do a sole source. We've
done several. We've done a couple of them. They created
extraordinary returns from the breath.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Would you welcome the legislature opening an investigation into this?
Speaker 7 (23:59):
You know, you know, I don't. I don't play politics.
If somebody wants to make accusations, hey, let's let's put
the process in And I'm proud of what our team's done.
You know, the one thing that I totally agree with
with Auditor Foley that there's paper workermissions that took place
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in this process. Unfortunately, the department has a lot of
work to do. We're making progress with our UH, with
our leader there now, but there's been paper work omissions
going on within the department UH for way before we
came into office. And so you know, if paper work
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omissions are criminal, I guess. I guess our department, somebody
in our department is guilty paper worker missions and lack
of discipline. I don't. I don't think that's criminal.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Visiting with Nebraska Governor Jim Pillon on eleven ten KFB, Jim,
the state has a long history of gossiping itself to death,
and we're trying to nip that in the buddy, could
you please detail this is what's come out, whether it's
there's foundation to it or not. And my suspicion is
there isn't. But unfortunately, in a social media age, it's
out there. Detail the history of your connection to Julie Bushell.
(25:13):
This consultant kind of a one man band. She has
a lot of experience in this area. But what is
your particular connection to her?
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know, be exactly the same as my connection with
Julie would be the same as it was is with
other contractors, people that we put on her cabinet from
the time this started happening. And I'm meeting people, I'm
listening to people in countless meetings. When people speak and
they have a vision, they have something that makes really,
(25:43):
really good sense, and there's a way above average. You know,
I'm always interviewing for the best people, whether it's a consultant,
whether it's a contractor, whether it's a cabinet member. And
that's my relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
How long have you known her?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Two and a half years something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Visiting with Jim pill and Nebraska governor. Yeah, Well she delivered.
This woman was paid two and a half million and
brought in three hundred million because of her connections in Washington,
d C. And her expertise in the biofuels area. Pretty
hard to argue with the results.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
As we're going back around on that one, I want
to bring up a couple other things here, Governor. There
were enough people who responded to this radio station in
the wake of your teletown hall who weren't real appreciative
of a term you used a few times in that call.
So they want to know, Governor, have you gotten the
word libtards out of your system?
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Well, you know, honestly, Jim's it's not a lap of
matter if you use a word that offends somebody from
a real from a community, the disability community. I've talked
to a number of people. There's a number that have said,
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you know, we know exactly what your heart said, what
your reference to They Some have said, thank you for
standing up for our values. The far left has been
extraordinarily disruptive and they're trying to take over our values.
I experienced it earlier in that day. I don't know
(27:23):
where that came from, but it came out. Some people
love it. Some don't, you know. I say this, look,
you know, don't listen to politicians. Politicians talk, let's go
by business people of what we do. Here's what we've done.
We inherited a developmental disability registry. I found out a registry.
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It was a if you had a developmental disability baby,
you waited eight years before the state helped you. This
has been going on for thirty five years. We put
a team together, attacked it, and we got it solved
in eighteen months. The other special education, I'm about kids,
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special education in K twelve. We inherited where there was limited,
hardly no dollars helping in special education. We increase that
through our Education Future Fund two hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Governor, we just have a just a moment left here.
I want to ask you about this as well. Turning point,
USA chapters in every single high school. Of course, the Democrats,
the young Democrats, President, they're all losing their minds. No
student has to join one of these things to graduate, right,
that seems to have been lost.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Now, this is totally voluntary. This is calling people to
their heart to be a part of it. If you
can have a Democratic club, you can't have a club
America club. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, that's that again, seems to have been lost. They
don't like the competition in some of these schools. They'd
rather walk out on a Friday and protest ice and
go get donuts. Jy thirty seconds left, Jim rose gub
one other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Bill Moose, the former athletics director, came out with a book.
You're pretty prominent in there. You remember the board of
regents who approved his contract for hire and was a
part of his association here in particular a case involving
Dana Aldman, and I want you to give you a
chance to clarify this. Dana Aldman, Hall of Fame basketball
coach was on the list to replace Tim Miles. In
(29:27):
Bill Moose's book, you vetoed that and said Nebraskans would
never accept Dana Aldman. Is that true? And if so,
what did you mean by that, because I don't believe
you believe that.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, well, what my point was simply to Bill, which,
by the way, we had a meeting on a Sunday
sunrise on a daylight Savings Sunday, last game that Tim
Miles coached at eleven o'clock, and Bill was an hour
late for the meeting. He forgets to tell that in
the story, which is really fascinating. But yeah, my comment
(29:59):
was really simple. We'll Bill, there's there's We got to
look for the best coach possible and if if that's Dana,
But I said, my view of the world would be
that Dana's been at Nebraska. He's left Nebraska twice. He
left and went Hog Suey for two days and came back.
And I said, and then Dana has gone to Oregon.
(30:19):
We needed to make sure the next coach is committed
to our program, committed to Nebraska. And I said, I
think Fred Hoiberg would be incredible. So I all you
have to do is look at the proof of the pudding.
And I don't think there's anybody in Nebraska not excited
about our Huskers. And by the way, I got to
(30:41):
be at the game last night with my son and
a couple of grand babies, and what what a Nebraska team.
That's his work. They never give up in the darkest.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Hours, a lot of hard governor. Thank you very much
for the time today, always a please appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
You guys have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Let's once again here and this is the full We
only played you about half of this earlier. Here's a
bit more of yesterday's hearing on Capitol Hill. This was
a Democrat House Committee member, Representative La Monica Mackiver, New Jersey.
She's the one who demanded to be let into an
ICE detention center and then took a swipe at law
(31:21):
enforcement saying, you guys just can't come barging in here,
and she got arrested for it. Well, she's not been
happy with ICE, and here she is questioning the acting
director of ICE, Todd Lyons, about his afterlife.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We are here for answers, we are here for accountability,
and we are here because people are dying. Let me
repeat that people are dying, and you don't seem to care. So,
mister Lyons, I've heard my colleagues ask many questions over
and over again, and you cannot answer them. So let
me ask you some questions that you may be able
(31:56):
to answer. Mister Lyons. Do you consider yourself a religious man?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yes, ma'am?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Oh, yes, okay, Well, how do you think judgment day
will work for you? With so much blood on your hands?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm not going to entertain that question.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Oh okay, of course not. Do you think you're going
to hell? Mister Llions, I'm not going to end how
many general Lady will suspend, the general Lady will suspend.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Chairman as a general Lady will suspend. As I said,
the issues we're debating here are important to ones that
members feel deeply about.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process, members
are reminded that we must adhere to establish standards of
decorman debate. The witnesses are here voluntarily, and I will
continue remind continue remind members that while oversight is important,
aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not in
keeping with the traditions of our committee.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Mister Sherman, I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You all.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You guys are always talking about religion here in the Bible.
I mean, it's okay for me to ask a question, right,
but let me continue on.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I got it just makes me there's so much about
that that is so infuriating. Jim, please, before I go
off like a Roman gandal your response to what you
just heard there.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You have some extraordinarily limited people that are members of
the United States House of Representatives, to say nothing of
her general lack of intellect is given by the subject
predicate challenge that she was unable to meet. This is
nothing more than partisan politics designed to get something that
is recorded and then repurposed as a means to generate
(33:34):
campaign funds. This is about appealing to people who are
so dogmatically partisan that they believe everything they are told
about Republicans, about Conservatives, about men, about white men. And
when you have an African American woman who accuses a
member of the United States government executive branch of doing
(33:55):
their jobs and then wondering if they're going to go
to heaven or hell, you have someone with a very
narrow imagination.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But Jim, let me ask you a question. People are dying.
That's not a question. Here. I'll respond, and I'll give
you a measured response.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You just have to consider the source, Scott. This woman
is limited, She has a very narrow imagination and lacks sincerity.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
She's right, people are dying, Sarah. They are dying, Sarah Rout,
Molly Tibbets Lake and Riley, many others. People are dying.
What about the ones? You would you go ask the
families of these young women whether they think they're going
to heaven or hell? What is your problem? With rounding
up criminals in this country, regardless of status. ICE has
(34:40):
a job to go after those who don't have status.
That's what they do. Cops go after those who do
have status when sometimes work with ICE to go after
those who don't. That we're rounding up dangerous criminals because
Congressman Mackaiver people are dying, but she only selectively cares
about which people are dying because it makes me pute.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And those are the people who will or will not
vote for her, which is where our body politic is.
We don't have statesmen and women anymore. We have political hacks,
and there are plenty on the right hand side too.
But again, at the end of the day, to batter
a battered cliche, either this is a country of laws
or it isn't. And the executive branch by the constitution,
(35:23):
and if we want to treat the constitution like used Charman,
be my guest. But if the idea and it's written
down that the executive branch executes the laws that are
passed by the congressional legislative branch, then they're doing their job.
Their job is to enforce laws. We have laws that
(35:44):
forbid people from being in the country illegally, either casually, serendipitously,
or by force of purpose. We have people in this
country illegally and they're not supposed to be here, and
we have to enforce laws. Now, can we create a policy?
(36:06):
Would be nice if we get a law, because we've
got lots of immigration laws that are not being followed
by states and governors and mayors. Could we get a
policy that says, okay, we have two classifications here. We
have the one that killed Sarah Root. We have the
one that killed Lakeln Riley. That's one classification. And we
have someone who came across the border twenty five years
ago seeking some sort of a better life. They paid
(36:29):
five thousand dollars to somebody who looked like an official
of the government. They're here, they're functioning, they're following the laws,
they have families, and they are a part of our community.
That's a classification too. If we can at least come
to that, I think we have. I think we've got
some consensus because I promise you conservatives don't want employees
(36:52):
to be thrown out of the country that are good
employees and who are a part of the community.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I don't want that. Excellent rants. There is TDS an issue.
We talked to a psychiatrist about that. At eight thirty
five this morning. Here on Nebraska's Morning News, Jim Rose
a sports brief in just a couple of minutes. Sam
Scott vorhees it was a six to one vote by
the Omaha City Council yesterday to require a convenience store
in northeast Omaha forty second and Bedford. This is the
(37:19):
former Jay and J Store grocery store. I think there
are a few of those, or there had been. They
changed their name. The new name of the grocery store
and this was not what they were voting on. Is
T and A Grocery, probably Todd and Andrew or something
(37:40):
like that. The vote was whether or not to require
T and A Grocery to submit a long form application
for a liquor license. People in the communities say there's
a high amount of crime in the area and maybe
if they take away their ability to sell liquor, then
maybe we won't have as much crime in the area.
(38:02):
The business owner's attorney says, if you pulled the liquor license,
he can't stay in business. And now you've got an empty,
vacant building and that's not going to stop the crime
in the area. We're willing to work with the city
to deal with this. We've added more cameras lighting trespassing
signs at the request of police. Brinker Harding voted against it,
(38:24):
and the rest of them said, yeah, you've got to
jump through a few more hoops and go through the
long form application process to continue to sell liquor at
this convenience and grocery store. The attorney says, sounds like
you guys are shutting us down. The council said, no,
we just have more questions. That's near forty second and Bedford.
(38:46):
I just wish that they would ask all the convenience
store owner customers stop throwing those little fireball shooters all
over the ground now. The KFAB Certified Transmission Sports Brief
Jim Rowkay Scott The moment of the day at the
Olympics courtesy of a Norwegian skier named stuur Holme lag Red.
After winning bronze in the twenty kilometer biathlon, he appeared
(39:08):
before Norway TV and admitted cheating.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
On his girlfriend. Here is Stuart purging his bilge and
I am happy to translate. It seemed like the right
thing to do at the time. She came to my
hovel wearing only a fur hat and ski boots, holding
a plate of grodlocks.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What was I supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I'm a guy. She begged me to treat her like
a frolic through the fjords. Trust me, man, you wouldn't
have walked away either.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The zoncer's custom was in box. Scott at KF A
b dot com got a great email here a few
weeks ago said I would love to hear you talk
with a therapist, a psychiatrist and address why so many
people who, whether it's people you know or people we
don't know that we see on television, seem to be good,
(40:03):
reasonable people suddenly just get whipped into an angry, potentially
violent frenzy. And it seems to be related to politics.
The news of the day is Trump derangement syndrome an
actual thing. We welcome on here back to eleven ten kfab,
the host of Doctor Carrol's Couch on Voice America dot
(40:25):
com and the host of the Terrorist Therapist podcast. It's
Doctor Carol Lieberman here on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Doctor Lieberman, thank you very much for taking the time.
Good morning, Good morning, is TDS Trump derangement syndrome. Is
this a real thing? What do you make of this?
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yes, it's a real thing, and it'll be a realer
thing once I get it accepted by the American Psychiatric Association,
which is what I've been working for the past year.
It's been almost a year already on a very detailed
diagnostic detailed diagnostic categories mild, moderate, severe for Trump Arrangement syndrome,
(41:12):
with the aim of proposing it to the American Psychiatric Association,
who writes the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. And you know,
because that's what makes it an official diagnosis. When you're in,
when you're in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, you know,
that makes it real. But I mean that makes it
(41:34):
officially real. However, we all know anyone who has met
anyone who has Trump Arrangement syndrome knows that it is real. Now.
I define it as an irrational, quasi psychotic hatred of
anything Trump, resulting in rage and over the top efforts
(41:56):
to destroy him and his work. And it can also
to people who are associated with him, for example JD.
Vance and Elon Musk and even Milania. We saw what
had the reaction to her movie. I mean, they did
really well, and a lot of people obviously really liked it.
But then there were, of course there had to be people,
(42:16):
the people with TDS, you know, protested against it, didn't
like it, found all kinds of horrible, mean things wrong
with it. So that is what it is. And and
then I go on to you know, make more specific
kinds of of of diagnostic diagnoses, like, for example, obsession
(42:38):
with Donald Trump and simmering anger towards anyone, even strangers
who might like him. That's one of the symptoms of
a mild case.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Sure, so when does that case go from mild to
something like we saw where someone who was described as
not anyone who was real politically active for so much
of his life v a nurse Minneapolis, alex Pretty and
then now the public has introduced to him and he's
either as was once described, a domestic terrorist who was
(43:08):
interfering with the operations by Ice on two separate occasions,
got himself hurt in one case, damaging a vehicle, and
then got himself shot in the next one, and people
said that, you know, this isn't the person we knew
just a few years ago. We don't I mean he
got radicalized. So what happens between people who don't like
(43:28):
Trump and then turn.
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Into that, yes, yes, actually yes, that some people do
start off liking him. Usually it has to do with
something in their own life, not something having to do
with Trump. Like, it's not something logical like some executive
order that Trump put forth. You know that you might
(43:53):
not like a more or more executive orders, but you
don't necessarily overnight develop Trump drangement syndrome. So it has
to do with when your life isn't going well and
you're angry about that, and you project this onto Trump,
and particularly you know, you look at his life and
he seems to have what every little boy and girl
(44:16):
for that matter, but especially with boys is expected to
have or hope to have by their parents. You know,
he's rich, he has good education, he had, he's very smart,
he has beautiful wife, he has a lot of power.
President two times. I mean, you know, excuse me. These
are all major accomplishments. And so when your life isn't
(44:40):
going well, it's you know, it's easy to look at
his and be jealous and blame, you know, blame it
all on him. And for women, the the the demographic
UH that has the most people with Trump's arrangement syndrome
are white, college educated and it's for a slightly different reason.
(45:02):
It's because they have never had good relationships with men,
and and so that you know exem On too, they
focus on him, target him for all the reasons why
they haven't had a loving relationship with a man. So
so it's about the person, not about Trump.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Is there a cure for all of this, doctor Lieberman, Yes, there.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Is a cure, And that's part of why I want
to get it into the diagnostics and statistical manual because
you know, when you get a category a number, you
got assigned a number for each diagnosis, then you can
that goes to insurance companies when you know, you try
to get reimbursed for therapy. So my my treatment that
(45:49):
I recommend is first of all, individual psychotherapy. Now this
this therapy isn't shouldn't be focused on Trump. It should
be focused on you, on what is what you're angry
about in your own life. So for example, therapy can
help men cope with their masculine insecurity issues, help women
(46:12):
cope with their dysfunctional relationships with men. Then I also
recommend couples and family therapy because a lot of divorces
are happening because of Trumps arrangement syndrome. Now, again, the
couple's therapy wouldn't be you know, directed towards to correct
the person's the partner who has TDS. It's it's to
(46:37):
correct the behavior. It's to work out compromises with the behavior.
You know, let's say the man or the woman you know,
screams and throws shoes at the television every time that
Trump appears, and that upsets the other partner, or family therapy,
it could be upsetting the kids. So it's on the behavior,
not on the person. Then the person could have individual
(47:00):
therapy also, then medication for moderate and major cases, because
that's when we get into the quasi psychotic and the psychotic.
So you could have medication that is, you know, helps
them get back in touch with reality or also if
they're very depressed, you know, antidepressants, whatever the accompanying symptom
(47:24):
is that is responsive, responsive to medication. You can also
add that.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
And that wouldn't be something like, hey, you're cured, now
go out there and support Donald Trump. We're not talking
about that. We're talking about not blaming all of everything
in your life on one person who has nothing to
do with you, where you get so violent, despondent, and
people are losing hope over all of this and the
entire thing makes me sad. Relationships are being severed. I
always think of a million other questions when we talk.
(47:52):
We'll have to have you back on the program soon. Doctor.
Thank you very much for the time today.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
That is the host of doctor Carroll's Couch on Voice
America dot com, as well as the Terrorist Therapist podcast,
Doctor Carol Lieberman here on news radio eleven tan kfa
B
Great to have you with us, and thank you so
much for hanging out here with us. This is Nebraska's
morning news news radio eleven ten KFAB with Craig Evans
and Lucy Chapman and Jim Rose. I am Scott Vorhees.
Thanks so much for hanging out with us here on
Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station. Well, first things first, Lucy,
(00:23):
if if you need to watch a movie from space,
you can do so here in the KFAB studios. In
the engineers here, see, we have a TV monitor in
the studio and it was it was TV monitor size
for a studio of this girth. It was it was
a just a regular monitor. Well then that failed, so
(00:46):
they found a little leitty bitty one and they said
this is just temporary because we have a new one
coming next week. Great. They installed it yesterday. It's the
size of the Quasar drive in movie theater screen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you have attached speakers?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Cars are lining up, They're wondering what frequency to turn to.
I said, actually, it's amplitude eleven ten am. And you
can watch watch TV with us here in the studio
from miles away. It's Frank's two thousand inch TV here
it's a drive in movie theater. We're showing Twister at
noon today.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's going to bet or this follow up.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Either one of them, it would be fine, but I'll
go with the first one.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
If you're watching, yeah, it's it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Stands out, it's and I know that no one you
would think, like, why are you talking about this in
the radio? We can't see it. You can. Actually it's
that big. It's in fact.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we just got a call from the Federal Aviation
Commission right and they said you need to turn that
off because it's jamming all of our landing radar at
Epley Airfield.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
If you were watching TV last night, I hope that
you kept watching TV last night. Lucy just came into
the studio. He goes to squash, Look at this isn't
that big? I know it's burning. Yeah, I don't know
if you caught Lucy's comment.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Measure just like a man.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, we're measuring that TV from the spine. So it's
burning my retinas. If I didn't comment on it right here,
then it would just bother me all day. I'll get
used to it. Maybe we get used to things, right.
It's like a supernova. Yeah, if you were watching TV
last night, I hope you didn't just give up at
halftime or even early in the second half, because this
(02:35):
Nebraska basketball team is rivaling my favorite sports teams of
all time, and that's the nineties Huskers, the eighties Huskers.
I grew up with the eighties Lakers. I grew up
with this Nebraska basketball team. This season, I just love
these guys.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well, they didn't lose, they just ran out of time
last night. I mean, it was a lot of fun
to watch that back. And you know, that's a gritty bunch.
I mean, those guys just don't quit their veterans, they
don't quit on each other, and they just make play
after play after play. And when you're down twenty two,
when you're down twelve with two forty five to go,
(03:14):
that's usually a cue for Husker fans to head home.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And they didn't. We were just nice. It was like
down fourteen with just a couple of minutes left, as
you said there, and I saw the comeback start to snowball,
and I said to my wife, I said, there's not
enough time. It's too no.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I told my wife, there is enough time. She gave
up like halfway through the second half. I said, this
game's not over. I'm working the Rosie Diginozi and watching
the game at the same time, and I go, don't worry,
there's plenty of time. And then she's getting all excited.
And then when a rink mass missed the foul shot,
you galloed upside. It was a fun game to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Omaha Steaks said they're not delivering directly to restaurants anymore,
but the restaurants could still order the Omaha Steaks online
like everyone else, like here's the Sweetheart package. They're just
not doing that kind of things. And of course restaurants
here in Omaha are like, but we have orders that
we were hoping to come in this week Valentine's Day.
(04:11):
People want steak. Omaha Steaks is like, yeah, sorry, we're done.
So restaurants are scrambling.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right now, which just two days left.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, Jericho's, well, three days, but yeah, it's a tough spot.
Jericho's announced that Valentine's Day be their last day and
they're calling it a history, an incredible history here for Omaha.
As Craig reported, they got a guy in custody, detained
him overnight. This is a delivery guy who lives south
of Tucson, who delivers him Tucson. Then they released him.
(04:44):
He talked to the media said I don't have anything
to do with any of this stuff, Like have you
ever delivered a package to her home? I don't know.
It sounds like someone saw the video and saw the
guy's eyes or facial features through that mask and thought
about a guy they know, and thought, yeah, he's probably
cold blooded kidnapper, and then they called the FBI on him.
So he needs to reevaluate all of his friends and probably, uh,
(05:09):
I don't know, dude, some sort of facial reconstructive surgery
if he looks like the kind of person who would
kidnap an older woman. And on Capitol Hill yesterday, this
is a representative La Monica Mackaiver of New Jersey. If
that name's familiar. She was the one who was detained
while trying to get in to an ice detention center
(05:30):
in the area, and she was grilling the ice directory
yesterday for answers.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
We are here for accountability, and we are here because
people are dying. Let me repeat that people are dying,
and you don't seem to care. So, mister Lyons, I've
heard my colleagues ask many questions over and over again,
and you cannot answer them. So let me ask you
some questions that you may be able to answer. Mister Lyons,
(05:56):
do you consider yourself a religious man?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes, ma'am?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Oh, yes, okay, Well, how do you think Judgment Day
will work for you with so much blood on your hands?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I'm not going to entertain that question.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Oh okay, of course not. Do you think you're going
to hell? Miss the Lions?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm not going to enter What is the matter with
this woman? Let me ask you a question, What in
the world is the matter with you? Talking there to
the acting Director of Ice, Todd Lyons. That is a
representative Lamonica MacIver from New Jersey yesterday. More on that
(06:33):
throughout the morning. Governor Jim Pillen will be a guest
in our program. He's been the subject of a lot
of conversations here recently, including the Rosie de Genozi the
other day. He's on with us at seven thirty five
this morning. Jim did report that there was a spike
of viewership of the Super Bowl at the end of
the second quarter. People were making it a political statement
(06:55):
or they This is a wide group of people in
this country who maybe aren't interested in football, but they
like Bad Bunny. He is, after all, one of the
most popular artists on the planet.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
As the most downloaded songs on Spotify on the planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And there are people who say, I forget the game,
which was forgettable throughout the first half. I want to
watch the Bad Bunny. So people were tuning in to
see Bad Bunny. But now we have the realization that
it is not good for your career not to have
appreciated the Bad Bunny halftime show. As Jill from the
(07:34):
Real Housewives of New York as, everyone knows who I'm
talking about, right, I don't, does anyone? I mean, these
shows must be incredibly popular, Lucy. All I hear about
is the Real Housewives.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I don't know anything about the New York No, do
you watch some of those I used to watch Beverly
Hills and Orange County.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, Jill from the Housewives of New York cast they
were going to do an upcoming reunion series called The
Golden Life of the Real Housewives of New York, but
Jill has not been invited back. Why because she went
on social media and said, that's the worst halftime show ever.
(08:18):
She didn't like the fact, she said that his dancing
Bad Bunnies dancing was inappropriate. Oh, just the part where
he had his hand on his junk for several moments
of the show. I guess she wasn't allowed not to
appreciate that. She said that the show looked like a
political statement because she literally saw no white people in
(08:39):
the entire thing. Well, yeah, Jill, it was supposed to
be the sugarcane fields and villages of Puerto Rico, so
it might have looked a little colonial to have just
a bunch of white people. Yeah, we had people in
there who look like Puerto Ricans, and then a bunch
of white people taking pictures, going hey, this is great.
(09:00):
Can I get a selfie? Can someone give me a drink?
I don't work here, this is where I live. Oh okay, Yeah,
it might have looked a little dumb to have white
people in it. And she says, well, it felt like
an anti ice thing in the NFL sold out. She
didn't like Bad Bunny singing entirely in Spanish, and so
(09:22):
she had an opinion, and they said, well, then you
can't come to the Real Housewives of New York reunion show.
You are not.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Allowed opinions are no longer allowed. Well, you know, it's
unless you know you agree with them.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They're right. Tolerance always a one way street.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well that's my way or no way.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's how it works, though. I mean, you say something
someone else might say, all right, Well, it's not like
we're squashing your First Amendment right to say it. But
we also have a right not to invite you to
our party and you can't come on the Real House.
Is a New York show?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Tell me a super Bowl that somebody hasn't said, that's
the worst super Bowl halftime show I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What I mean. Lucy has famously never watched any of it.
But I think generally the results to come back that
the best super Bowl halftime shows of all time have
been Prince Brute. I've always thought Bruno Mars did the
best one. I'm a big Michael Jackson fan, so that
was pretty cool seeing that in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So there may be somebody didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Top three, right, but there was someone watching as Prince
as the rain was coming down in that stadium, and
he's up there with his little purple electric guitars singing
Purple Rain in the rain and it was a super
cool moment. There was someone sitting there watching it, all
arms fold of going born. So absolutely there was going
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on MySpace. This is the worst halftime show I have
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know it happened right, there's.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A MySpace reference for you, anyone.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I thank you old school. I remember my friend Whitney saying, Scott,
I know you're on MySpace, but a lot of us
from college are going over to Facebook now like Facebook,
the heck is that I don't need that. I have MySpace. Yeah,
I've not exactly been cutting.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah. I still have records, and not in like a
cool hipster way. Hey, records are coming back. I know
people have records. A record he's got a record player.
Nicely done, Lucy. Lucy is the official conspiracy theorist here
on this program. If people are going to have those
cameras that have or the doorbell cameras, wouldn't you think
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that if you're going to have them, we should be
able to access the images taken from the cameras at
some point prior to a week and a half after
maybe mom was kidnapped and there's a guy there. Now,
finally we see pictured on the front porch, wearing a
ski mask and some weird like vinyl looking gloves and
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seem to have a weapon on him and all the
rest of this stuff. A week and a half later
and we get an image of this guy with pretty
eyes and a bad mustache wearing a mask. It kind
of looks like a Mexican wrestler from the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Are you suggesting that this is the first time the
police have seen this photo?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's what they said, they're lying, that they had a
hard time getting it, that they well, it was.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Not lying, they're protecting the case.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
One of two things that's true. Either you take them
at their word, in other words, not Lucy's suggestion that
they're lying.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I took that back.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's why I will will allow for that possibility. But
the first one is we'll take them at their word
because this guy had destroyed the camera and it's hard
to go in there and convince the piece people who
store these images or whatever with the companies to release
to law enforcement. But I would think if I live
at the home, or if that's my mom's house and
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she's gone and we got to access that, I don't
want some company going, no, not unless we can talk
to the homeowner and get permission to release these. A
homeowner might be tied to a chair someplace with one
little light bulb swinging over her in a dark room
release the images. No, Like, there's got to be a
better way.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
If that happened, then I would I'm sorry, I would
cheer on the camera company because, well, in this case,
they need to have some kind of procedure that when
it's a case like this that they can bypass, of course,
but to make it hard for police to get those cameras.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think that's acceptable, That's fine, depending on the circumstance.
I would. I would hope though that everyone so often
you get any kind of technology and it's like click
here and agree to these terms. You bet no idea
what you just did your last probably fine. I would
hope that you would have some sort of all right,
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in the event that I'm kidnapped by someone, that you
got an emergency contact, you'll release these images to them,
say my daughter, and then she can decide what to
do from there. I would hope that there'd be some allowance,
and if not, there should be. Now. Now, the other
side of this is that law enforcement was lying as
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you intimate that you called them all big fat liars,
and you said you would fight Cash Betel anywhere anytime.
We had it on tape and I recorded it on
my doorbell camera.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Well it's available for everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Then I guess, well, it's possible that they could do that,
because this happens sometimes. For example, the case of the
college students in Idaho. Police knew at the beginning who
their suspect was, but they acted like I had no idea.
They were trying to squeeze him and follow him and
monitor and get more evidence and all the rest of it.
We learned that later. I don't know that that would
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be the case here. We have a woman who no
idea what's going on here, So I don't know. That
doesn't seem likely here that they're just you know, playing
ropodope with some suspect. They grabbed this guy who lives
about an hour south of Tucson, which I thought was Mexico.
It's got to be really close. And they grabbed this
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guy and he's talking to the media later going they
told me I kidnapped Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Savannah Guthrie.
I'm like, who Yes, there are people in this country
have no idea any of this is going on. And
he said, I hope they find the guy who did
it so I can clear my name. It's a delivery
driver who does some deliveries around Tucson.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Wait stop, you've got to back up. Let's really look
at this. If the police arrested this and he lives
an hour away, there was something in that picture. There
was something in that location that made them believe. I
know that it didn't if you say a family member
also turned him.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
In, Uh, well no, someone someone who knows him said, yeah,
he's got kind of crazy looking eyes, a bad mustache,
and he looks like someone who might kidnap a nice
old lady. And he's now has to.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
And if that's all that happened that led the police
to him, that's terrifying. They that says anybody can say
anything about anything.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Anytime they got a tip, they followed up on the tip.
They detained him, questioned him, released him, and now he
has to reevaluate his friends. All right, Which one of
you guys thinks that maybe I'm a kidnapper, please let
me know. Kfab National correspondent Now Rory O'Neill to Nebraska's
Morning News. So they got a guy, then released a guy.
It didn't take very long, did it, Rory, No, it didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
They got this guy. They actually got a warrant to
search the home where he lived with his mother in law.
She had let them in. She said, you can come
in and look, there's nobody here. So it seemed that
they were cooperating. Now, exactly what went led from that
traffic stop near the Mexican border to have the officer
think that this person calls himself Carlos. So what made
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that officer think Carlos was somehow involved in the abduction
of Nancy Guthrie. That's still unknown, but he has been
cleared as part of their investigation. So I wouldn't say
we're back to square one only because we finally got
some images and some video released that might help finally
crack the case.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, we were just talking here. Why it took so long.
If you have this security at your home, I would
think that it would be there available for law enforcement
to be able to help you find someone who might
kidnap you. But it took a long time to get
that footage here from the camera on the doorbell right, because.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
The Guthrie family did not subscribe to that data saving option.
So instead it took anders at Nest and its parent
company Google to go back through and say, all right,
can we find this data in the cloud? Goes to
show you, by the way, that even when you stop subscribing,
Google is still watching. But in this case it's a
good thing. So they found this much that they released.
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I'm curious to see how much other.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Video there may be.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
We know that there are reports that there were some
Nest cameras inside the home as well, so could they
recover some of that video. Let's see if there's more
of this that will obtain and seem publicly.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Released in the days ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Our official conspiracy theorist Lucy Chapman, got a really big
smile on her face when you mentioned that about Google
still watching us. Somewhere between all out police state and
help find the guy who kidnapped me. There's got to
be a happy medium for people when it comes to
this kind of thing. Also, Rory, you've been following, among
other things, yesterday in the day we got Ice and
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Homeland Security officials before Congress got a little fiery yesterday
when the acting Ice director mister Lyons was asked whether
he thought he was going to hell. How are these
hearings going in your eyes?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Well, I think he did well. Essentially. A lot of
his answers were I can't comment because it's an ongoing
investigation when talking about the shooting deaths of two of
the people who were demonstrating or protesting against the ice
operations there in Minnesota. And really wait until you see
what happens today when Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies. Remember
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she went before a Senate committee last fall, and every
time a senator asked a question, she had this dossier
ready to punch back. She's probably doing it for the
House members today too.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We'll be following it here. Rory, I know you will too.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Thanks, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I am Scott Boarh. He's here on news Radio eleven
ten kfab. We welcome back to the program someone who's
earned a lot of conversation here recently, and we're glad
to have him back on the program to join in
that conversation. Nebraska Governor Jim pill and Governor good morning.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Hey, good morning Jim, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm Scott. There's Jim, and so are you. That's all right?
Hellos enough, we got plenty of jims. Got well. And
her name is Jane. Jane Cleb, chair of the Nebraska
Democratic Party, says, quote, while families worry about rising costs
and a growing state deficit, Jim Pillen is awarding no
bid contracts to a female friend and jetting overseas with her.
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And Nebraskans deserve serious leadership, not chaos, insults and cronyism.
We had the state auditor Mike Foley on here. He's
had questions about this no bid contract. Governor please respond.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Number one. I'm in my fourth
year of being the governor Nebraska and Srugerant Pulagh, I'm
not a politician. I'm working to run government like a business.
I'm the first governor of agriculture in one hundred years.
We're now number one in ethanol, we're number one in
cattle ethanol demand is incredible, but we have to do
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more to be able to grow agriculture Nebraska. Make sure
Nebraska corn farmers and soybean farmers knew more. And that
is a part of the bid where second generation ethanol.
I didn't understand it until I became governor and the
transition where like it Blair, there's we are making plastics
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and amino assets and polypropylene from ethanol. So that's the bioeconomy.
The legislature appropriated. The legislature appropriated up to a two
and a half million dollars amount for a consultant to
help us get more than our first share of federal
dollars back home from Nebraska. If you remember back then,
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the Biden administration had the Inflation Reduction Act money. They
had to eight hundred million dollars billion dollars that they
were giving out. We were nowhere to be found. This
legislature appropriated, gave us ninety days. They gave us from
April to June thirtieth to find a contractor. When you
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do an RFP, it takes time. I did not want
to lose time. We did the exception of the rule.
It's a sole source, it's contract, it's what every other
governor has done, and the proofs in the putting this
contract generated three hundred and seven million dollars one hundred
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and fifty x of the costs. And Nebraskans want a
governor that runs government like a business, cut the way
spending getting more than our fair share. So week in
Brewer economy, this money is going to make a big difference.
Why the emergency guys really simple. We can't lose time.
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Time is a essence. That's that's as simple as the
story gets with when we talk about it. No contract, bid,
or whatever the case is, that's as simple as it is.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
A statues Jim require that any contract over fifty thousand
dollars go to a an RFP in a bid. So
the question becomes with ninety days, why didn't we start
the RFP bid process on April first.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Because that's when the money was appropriated from the Appropriations committee.
That's there's no sense in starting at a tarp unless
you have the money approved. The legislature approves the money.
I couldn't say I'm going to go do this. That
is the legislature's privilege. They appropriated the money, and it's
that that started somehow that's getting lost in the shuffle.
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That's that's how it works. You follow the law. That's
how it works.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Would you welcome there is.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And again we followed, we followed the law. You can
do this contract you can do a sole source. We've
done several. We've done a couple of them. They created
extraordinary returns from the breath.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Would you welcome the legislature opening an investigation into this?
Speaker 7 (23:59):
You know, you know, I don't. I don't play politics.
If somebody wants to make accusations, hey, let's let's put
the process in And I'm proud of what our team's done.
You know, the one thing that I totally agree with
with Auditor Foley that there's paper workermissions that took place
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in this process. Unfortunately, the department has a lot of
work to do. We're making progress with our UH, with
our leader there now, but there's been paper work omissions
going on within the department UH for way before we
came into office. And so you know, if paper work
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omissions are criminal, I guess. I guess our department, somebody
in our department is guilty paper worker missions and lack
of discipline. I don't. I don't think that's criminal.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Visiting with Nebraska Governor Jim Pillon on eleven ten KFB, Jim,
the state has a long history of gossiping itself to death,
and we're trying to nip that in the buddy, could
you please detail this is what's come out, whether it's
there's foundation to it or not. And my suspicion is
there isn't. But unfortunately, in a social media age, it's
out there. Detail the history of your connection to Julie Bushell.
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This consultant kind of a one man band. She has
a lot of experience in this area. But what is
your particular connection to her?
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know, be exactly the same as my connection with
Julie would be the same as it was is with
other contractors, people that we put on her cabinet from
the time this started happening. And I'm meeting people, I'm
listening to people in countless meetings. When people speak and
they have a vision, they have something that makes really,
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really good sense, and there's a way above average. You know,
I'm always interviewing for the best people, whether it's a consultant,
whether it's a contractor, whether it's a cabinet member. And
that's my relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
How long have you known her?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Two and a half years something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Visiting with Jim pill and Nebraska governor. Yeah, Well she delivered.
This woman was paid two and a half million and
brought in three hundred million because of her connections in Washington,
d C. And her expertise in the biofuels area. Pretty
hard to argue with the results.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
As we're going back around on that one, I want
to bring up a couple other things here, Governor. There
were enough people who responded to this radio station in
the wake of your teletown hall who weren't real appreciative
of a term you used a few times in that call.
So they want to know, Governor, have you gotten the
word libtards out of your system?
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Well, you know, honestly, Jim's it's not a lap of
matter if you use a word that offends somebody from
a real from a community, the disability community. I've talked
to a number of people. There's a number that have said,
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you know, we know exactly what your heart said, what
your reference to They Some have said, thank you for
standing up for our values. The far left has been
extraordinarily disruptive and they're trying to take over our values.
I experienced it earlier in that day. I don't know
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where that came from, but it came out. Some people
love it. Some don't, you know. I say this, look,
you know, don't listen to politicians. Politicians talk, let's go
by business people of what we do. Here's what we've done.
We inherited a developmental disability registry. I found out a registry.
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It was a if you had a developmental disability baby,
you waited eight years before the state helped you. This
has been going on for thirty five years. We put
a team together, attacked it, and we got it solved
in eighteen months. The other special education, I'm about kids,
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special education in K twelve. We inherited where there was limited,
hardly no dollars helping in special education. We increase that
through our Education Future Fund two hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Governor, we just have a just a moment left here.
I want to ask you about this as well. Turning point,
USA chapters in every single high school. Of course, the Democrats,
the young Democrats, President, they're all losing their minds. No
student has to join one of these things to graduate, right,
that seems to have been lost.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Now, this is totally voluntary. This is calling people to
their heart to be a part of it. If you
can have a Democratic club, you can't have a club
America club. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, that's that again, seems to have been lost. They
don't like the competition in some of these schools. They'd
rather walk out on a Friday and protest ice and
go get donuts. Jy thirty seconds left, Jim rose gub
one other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Bill Moose, the former athletics director, came out with a book.
You're pretty prominent in there. You remember the board of
regents who approved his contract for hire and was a
part of his association here in particular a case involving
Dana Aldman, and I want you to give you a
chance to clarify this. Dana Aldman, Hall of Fame basketball
coach was on the list to replace Tim Miles. In
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Bill Moose's book, you vetoed that and said Nebraskans would
never accept Dana Aldman. Is that true? And if so,
what did you mean by that, because I don't believe
you believe that.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, well, what my point was simply to Bill, which,
by the way, we had a meeting on a Sunday
sunrise on a daylight Savings Sunday, last game that Tim
Miles coached at eleven o'clock, and Bill was an hour
late for the meeting. He forgets to tell that in
the story, which is really fascinating. But yeah, my comment
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was really simple. We'll Bill, there's there's We got to
look for the best coach possible and if if that's Dana,
But I said, my view of the world would be
that Dana's been at Nebraska. He's left Nebraska twice. He
left and went Hog Suey for two days and came back.
And I said, and then Dana has gone to Oregon.
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We needed to make sure the next coach is committed
to our program, committed to Nebraska. And I said, I
think Fred Hoiberg would be incredible. So I all you
have to do is look at the proof of the pudding.
And I don't think there's anybody in Nebraska not excited
about our Huskers. And by the way, I got to
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be at the game last night with my son and
a couple of grand babies, and what what a Nebraska team.
That's his work. They never give up in the darkest.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Hours, a lot of hard governor. Thank you very much
for the time today, always a please appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
You guys have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Let's once again here and this is the full We
only played you about half of this earlier. Here's a
bit more of yesterday's hearing on Capitol Hill. This was
a Democrat House Committee member, Representative La Monica Mackiver, New Jersey.
She's the one who demanded to be let into an
ICE detention center and then took a swipe at law
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enforcement saying, you guys just can't come barging in here,
and she got arrested for it. Well, she's not been
happy with ICE, and here she is questioning the acting
director of ICE, Todd Lyons, about his afterlife.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We are here for answers, we are here for accountability,
and we are here because people are dying. Let me
repeat that people are dying, and you don't seem to care. So,
mister Lyons, I've heard my colleagues ask many questions over
and over again, and you cannot answer them. So let
me ask you some questions that you may be able
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to answer. Mister Lyons. Do you consider yourself a religious man?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yes, ma'am?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Oh, yes, okay, Well, how do you think judgment day
will work for you? With so much blood on your hands?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm not going to entertain that question.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Oh okay, of course not. Do you think you're going
to hell? Mister Llions, I'm not going to end how
many general Lady will suspend, the general Lady will suspend.
Speaker 9 (32:19):
Chairman as a general Lady will suspend. As I said,
the issues we're debating here are important to ones that
members feel deeply about.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process, members
are reminded that we must adhere to establish standards of
decorman debate. The witnesses are here voluntarily, and I will
continue remind continue remind members that while oversight is important,
aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not in
keeping with the traditions of our committee.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Mister Sherman, I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You all.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You guys are always talking about religion here in the Bible.
I mean, it's okay for me to ask a question, right,
but let me continue on.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I got it just makes me there's so much about
that that is so infuriating. Jim, please, before I go
off like a Roman gandal your response to what you
just heard there.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You have some extraordinarily limited people that are members of
the United States House of Representatives, to say nothing of
her general lack of intellect is given by the subject
predicate challenge that she was unable to meet. This is
nothing more than partisan politics designed to get something that
is recorded and then repurposed as a means to generate
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campaign funds. This is about appealing to people who are
so dogmatically partisan that they believe everything they are told
about Republicans, about Conservatives, about men, about white men. And
when you have an African American woman who accuses a
member of the United States government executive branch of doing
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their jobs and then wondering if they're going to go
to heaven or hell, you have someone with a very
narrow imagination.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But Jim, let me ask you a question. People are dying.
That's not a question. Here. I'll respond, and I'll give
you a measured response.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You just have to consider the source, Scott. This woman
is limited, She has a very narrow imagination and lacks sincerity.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
She's right, people are dying, Sarah. They are dying, Sarah Rout,
Molly Tibbets Lake and Riley, many others. People are dying.
What about the ones? You would you go ask the
families of these young women whether they think they're going
to heaven or hell? What is your problem? With rounding
up criminals in this country, regardless of status. ICE has
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a job to go after those who don't have status.
That's what they do. Cops go after those who do
have status when sometimes work with ICE to go after
those who don't. That we're rounding up dangerous criminals because
Congressman Mackaiver people are dying, but she only selectively cares
about which people are dying because it makes me pute.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And those are the people who will or will not
vote for her, which is where our body politic is.
We don't have statesmen and women anymore. We have political hacks,
and there are plenty on the right hand side too.
But again, at the end of the day, to batter
a battered cliche, either this is a country of laws
or it isn't. And the executive branch by the constitution,
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and if we want to treat the constitution like used Charman,
be my guest. But if the idea and it's written
down that the executive branch executes the laws that are
passed by the congressional legislative branch, then they're doing their job.
Their job is to enforce laws. We have laws that
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forbid people from being in the country illegally, either casually, serendipitously,
or by force of purpose. We have people in this
country illegally and they're not supposed to be here, and
we have to enforce laws. Now, can we create a policy?
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Would be nice if we get a law, because we've
got lots of immigration laws that are not being followed
by states and governors and mayors. Could we get a
policy that says, okay, we have two classifications here. We
have the one that killed Sarah Root. We have the
one that killed Lakeln Riley. That's one classification. And we
have someone who came across the border twenty five years
ago seeking some sort of a better life. They paid
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five thousand dollars to somebody who looked like an official
of the government. They're here, they're functioning, they're following the laws,
they have families, and they are a part of our community.
That's a classification too. If we can at least come
to that, I think we have. I think we've got
some consensus because I promise you conservatives don't want employees
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to be thrown out of the country that are good
employees and who are a part of the community.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I don't want that. Excellent rants. There is TDS an issue.
We talked to a psychiatrist about that. At eight thirty
five this morning. Here on Nebraska's Morning News, Jim Rose
a sports brief in just a couple of minutes. Sam
Scott vorhees it was a six to one vote by
the Omaha City Council yesterday to require a convenience store
in northeast Omaha forty second and Bedford. This is the
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former Jay and J Store grocery store. I think there
are a few of those, or there had been. They
changed their name. The new name of the grocery store
and this was not what they were voting on. Is
T and A Grocery, probably Todd and Andrew or something
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like that. The vote was whether or not to require
T and A Grocery to submit a long form application
for a liquor license. People in the communities say there's
a high amount of crime in the area and maybe
if they take away their ability to sell liquor, then
maybe we won't have as much crime in the area.
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The business owner's attorney says, if you pulled the liquor license,
he can't stay in business. And now you've got an empty,
vacant building and that's not going to stop the crime
in the area. We're willing to work with the city
to deal with this. We've added more cameras lighting trespassing
signs at the request of police. Brinker Harding voted against it,
(38:24):
and the rest of them said, yeah, you've got to
jump through a few more hoops and go through the
long form application process to continue to sell liquor at
this convenience and grocery store. The attorney says, sounds like
you guys are shutting us down. The council said, no,
we just have more questions. That's near forty second and Bedford.
(38:46):
I just wish that they would ask all the convenience
store owner customers stop throwing those little fireball shooters all
over the ground now. The KFAB Certified Transmission Sports Brief
Jim Rowkay Scott The moment of the day at the
Olympics courtesy of a Norwegian skier named stuur Holme lag Red.
After winning bronze in the twenty kilometer biathlon, he appeared
(39:08):
before Norway TV and admitted cheating.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
On his girlfriend. Here is Stuart purging his bilge and
I am happy to translate. It seemed like the right
thing to do at the time. She came to my
hovel wearing only a fur hat and ski boots, holding
a plate of grodlocks.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What was I supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I'm a guy. She begged me to treat her like
a frolic through the fjords. Trust me, man, you wouldn't
have walked away either.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The zoncer's custom was in box. Scott at KF A
b dot com got a great email here a few
weeks ago said I would love to hear you talk
with a therapist, a psychiatrist and address why so many
people who, whether it's people you know or people we
don't know that we see on television, seem to be good,
(40:03):
reasonable people suddenly just get whipped into an angry, potentially
violent frenzy. And it seems to be related to politics.
The news of the day is Trump derangement syndrome an
actual thing. We welcome on here back to eleven ten kfab,
the host of Doctor Carrol's Couch on Voice America dot
(40:25):
com and the host of the Terrorist Therapist podcast. It's
Doctor Carol Lieberman here on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Doctor Lieberman, thank you very much for taking the time.
Good morning, Good morning, is TDS Trump derangement syndrome. Is
this a real thing? What do you make of this?
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yes, it's a real thing, and it'll be a realer
thing once I get it accepted by the American Psychiatric Association,
which is what I've been working for the past year.
It's been almost a year already on a very detailed
diagnostic detailed diagnostic categories mild, moderate, severe for Trump Arrangement syndrome,
(41:12):
with the aim of proposing it to the American Psychiatric Association,
who writes the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. And you know,
because that's what makes it an official diagnosis. When you're in,
when you're in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, you know,
that makes it real. But I mean that makes it
(41:34):
officially real. However, we all know anyone who has met
anyone who has Trump Arrangement syndrome knows that it is real. Now.
I define it as an irrational, quasi psychotic hatred of
anything Trump, resulting in rage and over the top efforts
(41:56):
to destroy him and his work. And it can also
to people who are associated with him, for example JD.
Vance and Elon Musk and even Milania. We saw what
had the reaction to her movie. I mean, they did
really well, and a lot of people obviously really liked it.
But then there were, of course there had to be people,
(42:16):
the people with TDS, you know, protested against it, didn't
like it, found all kinds of horrible, mean things wrong
with it. So that is what it is. And and
then I go on to you know, make more specific
kinds of of of diagnostic diagnoses, like, for example, obsession
(42:38):
with Donald Trump and simmering anger towards anyone, even strangers
who might like him. That's one of the symptoms of
a mild case.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Sure, so when does that case go from mild to
something like we saw where someone who was described as
not anyone who was real politically active for so much
of his life v a nurse Minneapolis, alex Pretty and
then now the public has introduced to him and he's
either as was once described, a domestic terrorist who was
(43:08):
interfering with the operations by Ice on two separate occasions,
got himself hurt in one case, damaging a vehicle, and
then got himself shot in the next one, and people
said that, you know, this isn't the person we knew
just a few years ago. We don't I mean he
got radicalized. So what happens between people who don't like
(43:28):
Trump and then turn.
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Into that, yes, yes, actually yes, that some people do
start off liking him. Usually it has to do with
something in their own life, not something having to do
with Trump. Like, it's not something logical like some executive
order that Trump put forth. You know that you might
(43:53):
not like a more or more executive orders, but you
don't necessarily overnight develop Trump drangement syndrome. So it has
to do with when your life isn't going well and
you're angry about that, and you project this onto Trump,
and particularly you know, you look at his life and
he seems to have what every little boy and girl
(44:16):
for that matter, but especially with boys is expected to
have or hope to have by their parents. You know,
he's rich, he has good education, he had, he's very smart,
he has beautiful wife, he has a lot of power.
President two times. I mean, you know, excuse me. These
are all major accomplishments. And so when your life isn't
(44:40):
going well, it's you know, it's easy to look at
his and be jealous and blame, you know, blame it
all on him. And for women, the the the demographic
UH that has the most people with Trump's arrangement syndrome
are white, college educated and it's for a slightly different reason.
(45:02):
It's because they have never had good relationships with men,
and and so that you know exem On too, they
focus on him, target him for all the reasons why
they haven't had a loving relationship with a man. So
so it's about the person, not about Trump.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Is there a cure for all of this, doctor Lieberman, Yes, there.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
Is a cure, And that's part of why I want
to get it into the diagnostics and statistical manual because
you know, when you get a category a number, you
got assigned a number for each diagnosis, then you can
that goes to insurance companies when you know, you try
to get reimbursed for therapy. So my my treatment that
(45:49):
I recommend is first of all, individual psychotherapy. Now this
this therapy isn't shouldn't be focused on Trump. It should
be focused on you, on what is what you're angry
about in your own life. So for example, therapy can
help men cope with their masculine insecurity issues, help women
(46:12):
cope with their dysfunctional relationships with men. Then I also
recommend couples and family therapy because a lot of divorces
are happening because of Trumps arrangement syndrome. Now, again, the
couple's therapy wouldn't be you know, directed towards to correct
the person's the partner who has TDS. It's it's to
(46:37):
correct the behavior. It's to work out compromises with the behavior.
You know, let's say the man or the woman you know,
screams and throws shoes at the television every time that
Trump appears, and that upsets the other partner, or family therapy,
it could be upsetting the kids. So it's on the behavior,
not on the person. Then the person could have individual
(47:00):
therapy also, then medication for moderate and major cases, because
that's when we get into the quasi psychotic and the psychotic.
So you could have medication that is, you know, helps
them get back in touch with reality or also if
they're very depressed, you know, antidepressants, whatever the accompanying symptom
(47:24):
is that is responsive, responsive to medication. You can also
add that.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
And that wouldn't be something like, hey, you're cured, now
go out there and support Donald Trump. We're not talking
about that. We're talking about not blaming all of everything
in your life on one person who has nothing to
do with you, where you get so violent, despondent, and
people are losing hope over all of this and the
entire thing makes me sad. Relationships are being severed. I
always think of a million other questions when we talk.
(47:52):
We'll have to have you back on the program soon. Doctor.
Thank you very much for the time today.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
You're very welcome.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
That is the host of doctor Carroll's Couch on Voice
America dot com, as well as the Terrorist Therapist podcast,
Doctor Carol Lieberman here on news radio eleven tan kfa
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