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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't want to start off this Wednesday morning on
a dour note or anything, but I feel like it
needs to be said. I as a as a white guy,
I'm tired of the racism. I am, frankly, I'm I
am glad that I have the opportunity to speak my
truth and use this platform here. I'm tired of the racism.
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Apparently you can just take any tall, white, blonde guy
and say that's Rank Masted for the Nebraska corn Huskers,
and that's that's just who that is. And you know what,
on behalf of white guys, I'm tired of the racism.
So we learned last night that the Nebraska basketball team,
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despite having two of its best players not available to
go for the game three, despite having three of its
best players, yeah best three points shoot Connor Sigions. Yeah,
but he's been gone the whole season. I'm talking about.
I'm tired to have them. Yes, it's certainly what I'm
talking about. Last night's game, we knew it was going
to be able to go. He's out, So we were
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out two players that we hoped to have for this game,
thought we'd have for this game. We're on the road.
Ten point underdogs, and we can still hang with one
of the best teams in the country. We learned all
these things last night. We also learned that Rank Mass
is just any big, any big, tall, blonde white guy
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can be Rank Mass the starting center for the Nebraska
corn Huskers. That's what we learned last night. Jim Rose
is all fired up looking at free throw totals. All right,
let's get into it now. It's hard to win when
it's eight on five. I don't see any shame in
this loss. Well, me neither, but it would have been nice.
Let's see three of four from the foul line, go
the Huskers, nineteen of twenty three, go the Wolverines.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We must have fouled them a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You're obviously not going to get a lot of whistles
on the road. But that last blast of Sam Hoiberg,
you know that happens outside. There's a white chalk outline,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But no, he took a charge. They didn't call it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Look, look, I'm Chinese this morning.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What can I say?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It was a fabulous performance. It was inspiring, and uh
that's Nebraska right there. Okay, that's Husker sports. What we
saw last night in Michigan no excuses, tough, disciplined, faith, trust,
do what you're supposed to do. You do your job,
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I'll do mine. Uh, this is what we're good at.
We're going to be good at what we're doing, which
is defense and three point shooting. And they did it
without two players that would have made a difference if
Rin mast and Braden Frager played last night. Nebraska wins
that game by ten points.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And as I you know, because my wife was watching
the game with me last night and she said, well,
if these shots are gone in and I said, if
wishes and butts were candies and nuts, we'd all have
a merry Christmas. What I saw wasich. I love it
because that's what my uncle used. I like my uncle.
I saw a team go completely cold in the last
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what four minutes of the game, scoreless for the last
three plus minutes in the game, and still have a
good chance to get it to overtime last night against
one of the best teams in college basketball, with one
of the better coaches in college basketball. I like Dusty May,
but Fred Hoiberg is an outstanding basketball I think he
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has these guys believing and working hard.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think he had he sewed up National Coach of
the Year last night. I think there is more. I
think there's more positive impressions of Nebraska basketball after last
night than if they'd won because they didn't have an
all Big ten center. You take an all big ten
level center out, and you take your most dynamic athlete
off the floor and you're hanging there, and you take
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you take a team that very likely could be in
the Final four, and you don't surrender the lead to
him until the last one minute of the game. Yeah,
at their barn. This is a Nebraska basketball team that
one fans last night. So you know, I know a
lot of Husker fans are bummed out, and they should be.
But unlike football and other sports, basketball there are so
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many games. One loss is not a killer for the season. No,
this is a good time for this to have. Candidly
think this might have improved their stock.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Actually, President was in Clive, Iowa, and no news made
last night. He didn't say and Christy Noomas out secretary
of Homeland Security. Please welcome your new secretary outgoing Iowa
Governor Kim Rentels. You know that would have been pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ashley Hinson.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
She's going to be the So there were no news made.
There was a familiar refrains by the President last night.
The economy is going great, You're gonna get big old.
But the more I hear the White House talk about
how our tax return is going to be filed and
we might get a lot more money back in a
refund than in previous years, the more I hear that,
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I add another five percent to what I think I'm
gonna get back in a refund. Right now, I'm doing
a Porsche and Lamborghini shopping. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I wonder how many people today they keep hearing the
news and hey, you're gonna get a bigger refund this year, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That'd be the biggest refund you ever had.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I wonder how many people are out there just walking
around going, ah, I'm gonna be a millionaire here in April.
I just hold on to pump the brakes on that.
So President's saying, with inflations, beating borders, closed, economy is
going great, We're making America great again. And then a
few hours north of there, congress Woman il Han Omar
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of Minnesota is having a town hall and some guy
as she's saying, it's time for christy know, him to go.
That's when this guy took his opportunity to move down
the center aisle at this town hall and spray a
liquid that was in a syringe toward the congresswoman. As
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he was intercepted by a security guard. Everyone in the
room said that these substance. They don't know what it was,
but it smelled really bad. It's hard to do that
in a syringe. I don't I don't know what it was.
They didn't clear the room, and they asked her if
she wanted to leave, and she said, no, that's what
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they want. We will continue quote these blanking, blank blanks
are not going to get away with this. And the
man was taken out, arrested. A lot of people very
interested to hear who this guy is, what he's all about,
And of course social media is already teeming with the
possibility of oh, this was all stage, this was all fake.
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Congressman Ilhan Omar hasn't had a town hall in months,
and suddenly she gets a chance to act all big.
They we're not going to give these guys what they want.
The crowd's like yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
DHS Secretary christinom must resign or face impeachment.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And then here comes the guy down.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He comes down the center sprayser with something out of
a stringe I don't know. Security tackles the guy, but
not before ilhan Omar starts walking towards him with her
hand up like she's gonna like she's gonna punch this guy.
She's gonna lay this guy out. She says, I need
a napkin. She's got some sprayed on her. Now an
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aide is saying, you need to leave. You need to
go get checked. You don't know what's sprayed on you.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's whatever you smell so bad. She needs to go
get checked.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's that's what they want.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's about your safety.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, he sprays Lise. She's back at the post. We're
gonna keep talking, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So that's that. And then she kept going there. She said,
we're not gonna let these blanking blank blanks, uh get
away with this. Now they got a guy who was arrested.
I don't know if he's still in custody. I heard
a name today like some fifty some year old guy
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looking at the freeze.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Frame here on the picture. He's a.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
White ish guy. He looks like if we were doing
sent I'm trying to describe here on there. If we're
doing central casting and we need kind of a New
Yorker guy to go in there and not have enough
money to buy pretzels, this is the like I don't know,
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I don't know what the movie plot is where we
need the guy, but we need kind of have a
dumpy looking New Yorker white guy who's like, oh, I
want the President, I don't have enough money.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Then that's this guy. That's what he looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So he sprays her with something, apparently some liquid substance
in a syringe. She says, I need a napkin. Her
assistant there is like, I smell so bad, you gotta
go get checked out. We don't know what he sprayed
you with. She's like, I'm fine, let's keep talking. And
the crowd there appreciative as they grab this guy and
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take him away. Of course, there are people saying this
was staged. Here's the email from Terry sent to Scott
at kfab dot com and the Zunker's custom was inbox.
Terry has got it all figure out, he says, totally staged.
She nodded to the assailant before he got up and
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sprayed her. Then she oddly, really oddly pursue him. As
I said, after after this guy comes at her, she
takes like three steps at the guy with the right
arm up, like I'm gonna give you old right teyer,
you meet the window maker.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I saw that video, said this is a giant fraud.
This was totally staged, and they they did this to
make it look this is a Jesse Smollett deal. Okay,
Harry is calling her Esse Somalia. Yeah, this is just
like Jesse Smollette. She's got all of this negative publicity,
people hate her, people water dumped in the ocean, and
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so she says, I gotta do something to win some
to win some some hearts back. I've got to do
something to make it look like I'm the victim. Even
though I've lied about my marital status, I've lied about
my wealth, I've lied about my involvement in the fraud
cases and everything else up there. I gotta be portrayed
as the victim. And you watch the national news media,
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We'll do that. They'll say an attack on ilhan Omar.
But yeah, if you look at the video and you
have functioning gray matter, it's pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
This was stage There are lots of emails people saying
it was probably some sort of pig matter her of
her religious it might have been Bosco.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Look this is this was all that. It's a very
very tasty chocolate drink. This was staged. She did this
to try and it's just like Jesse Smolette about the
time my career is on the rails, I've got to
do something to gin up sympathy. I gotta do something
to take the pressure off of my behavior. And that's
what this was. Look at the video. Study the video.
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You're right. She nodded at the guy. She said, okay,
it's time. Why didn't she just give him a sign
from the third base box.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I'll tell you what I do. What I do think
is funny as to comment. And here her name is
now Jesse Somalia.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's Terry. Thank you for that one.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Scott at KFAB got a guy and we'll see what
that's all about. Tim emails says the guy you're describing
who sprayed the stuff on il han Omar. Based on
your description of the guy, I'm picturing dan Ackroyd in
a Santa suit walking around drunk.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Thank you, there's your eighties movie reference for this segment
of the radio program, Lucy, do you want to take
a whack at that one?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
That's gonna be a National Lampoon?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
What dan Akrod is not a National Lampoon Ghostbuster? National
Lampoon's Ghostbusters?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So close? No, that was trading places.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh yeah, trading places with.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Looking feeling good Lewis with it. Yeah, that was. That
was dan Ackroyd and Eddie Money. Now not Eddie Money,
Eddie Munster. That's uh, classic John Landis film from the eighties.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Can you imagine for one second anybody getting something sprayed
that you can smell it and say, oh, it's fine,
it's fine. We're just gonna absolutely ridiculous. That would never happen,
not in today's world.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
All right now, Lucy is Jim has already said the
thing was staged. Every single emailer this morning has said
that this thing was staged. And you're just joined us going,
what what was staged? Lucy, you're saying the same thing. Yes,
ilhan Omar, Congressman Minnesota. Uh, I was doing a town
hall last night, first one in a long time, and
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a guy comes down there spraiser with some stinky stuff
and they tackle him, get him out of here. By
the way, nice job security, What are you doing there.
We're gonna get you. You're gonna be able to do
whatever you want. But then after that, exactly you're not
gonna get away with that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's another.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
This guy comes down the center aisle, right down the
center aisle. The security knew who it was, and no
one rushes the guy. Yeah, until after a spraiser with
who knows what with hot chocolate.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You're saying it's hot chocolate, And I'm I'll be the
one to say, well, there's a guy in custody. We'll
see what he has to say, what the investigation is
all about. It could be the same guys that went
after Jesse Smollett. All I know is I don't know.
The only thing this guy doesn't have is a Maga
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hat on. Yeah, it's really that would have made all
the difference in the world. But he'll be back at
the Lering Center by noon. Well, I can tell you
what Newsweek has dug up about fifty five year old
Anthony kez Mehrichk. He does not appear to have ever
been charged with a violent crime in Minnesota. He's been
twice convicted of driving well under the influence of alcohol,
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got divorced in about twenty seventeen, got a couple of kids.
As of that point in twenty seventeen, he was not
employed maybe that's why he's not married anymore. Was receiving
disability insurance payments, and he's been married and divorced twice.
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Has a Facebook profile reported by CNN to belong to
this guy with a history of political posts involving criticism
of President Biden former Vice President Harris. October twenty twenty one,
he posts a political cartoon criticizing ilhan Omar's spending on
our national security. He liked Charlie Kirk. President Trump changed
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his profile picture to a picture of Trump speaking at
a Turning Point USA event in the wake of Charlie
Kirk's assassination. A couple weeks after that, changed it to
a photo of Trump being and Eric Kirk, and has
profile pictures showing his support for Ukraine. His account describes
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him as quote an empty nester looking to enjoy retirement
and second half of my adventure. He got a really
cute dog in one picture looking at that Minnesota Vikings.
Blah blah blah blah blah, follows Ben Shapiro Candice Owens
on an x account that purportedly belongs to him.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's that's what we got on this count.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, this guy got a check from somebody or a
water cash from somebody to do this. There's no question
this thing with stage. Just look at it. Trust your eyes.
She nods at the guy. If you're standing up there,
let's say you're standing up there and you're ilhan Omar. Now,
this gal, all right, this thing of her is a
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major target by the hard ride in this country. She
has been vilified by the president, She's been lampooned by media.
She has been made out to be a true villain. Okay, Now,
if you're up there doing a town hall, which is
pretty risky, she probably had some security there. But if
you're doing a town hall and somebody lunges toward you
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on stage, you're not going to stand there and wait
for it. You're gonna notice it and try to get
out of the way, not going to lunge back at him.
I don't especially if you don't know who this is. Look,
this was stage. This is Jesse small Lette two point zero.
You're declaring things which I have zero problem with. I'm
just letting people know.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
This is thed Hey, I'll.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Tell you this.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I know we're still recovering from the Joe Biden years,
when they said something that did not match what we
saw or heard, and we just sort of got brainwashed
into accepting what they said about the president, about the border,
about everything else, about the withdrawal from Afghanistan. But we're
starting to recover from that and we can trust our
eyes again.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, I have eyes. I will tell you this. I
don't know how either of us would reacting the same.
I would have ducked, I would have gotten out of
the way.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm certainly not going to confront the guy. I don't
know what he's got.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
We don't know how either one of us would react.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I had a syringe full of hot cocoa.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I don't know if it was hot coco that she
was prayed with. If that was the case, you just
pray that right in my mouth. If it's not too hot,
I don't want to be have my tongue. Also, golden stuff,
we don't need that, So I don't know. I can
tell you also this. She hasn't done a town hall
in a very long time, and considering the political climate
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in Minneapolis, the timing seems suspect for wanting to go
out there and do something. So I can add that
as well. You know, if someone really wants to think now,
I'll tell you someone else who doesn't think this was real.
They found President Trump last night. I said, what do
you think of this? She says, quote, I don't think
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about her. I think she's a fraud. I said, have
you seen the video?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
She probably had her self sprayed, knowing her. I haven't
seen it. No, I don't have to bother so President
Trump also saying that this is fake news.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, it's just it doesn't add up, Scott in that
point that you just made. I don't know how often
she does a town hall, But when you are in
the crosshairs, and I pardon upon, that's not intended to
be an encouragement to assassinate her. No, when you are
in the public narrative crosshairs, you don't go out there
and make yourself more vulnerable, make yourself a little bit
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of an easier target. You stand behind an iron gate
and wait until the clouds pass. Instead, she says, oh,
you know, man, things are really starting to close in
on me. They're starting to look at my husband's finances.
They're starting to talk about me and the Somali fraud stuff.
I gotta do something to you to make this media
narrative take a U turn. How about this, Let's do
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a town hall and have somebody charge the stage and
attack me with something.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It has also been pointed out that as ICE is
doing operations around the country, the only place that turns
into a nightly riot in melee and fights and shots
fired is in the place where they're trying to expose
all the fraud of the mayor, of the attorney general,
and the governor and the congresswoman in this area. So
that's also been pointed out. Ryan email says this was
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not staged. This is a real hoax. Thank you, Ryan,
Thank you for that. Scott at kfab dot com. Somebody
coming here.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Somebody texts something in about her brother in an aphrodisiac.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, I decided not to read that. I had read it,
Luke says. My guess is they sprayed her with goat urine.
I understand that's an aphrodisiac for her brother. There you
asked for it. As far as what Ilhan Omar was
saying before a guy jumped up there and began going
on a tirade and spraying her with something and was
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let out of there. What she said was it's time
for christinom to go.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
She's not the only one saying that. Jim Rose has
said that, said it again yesterday. You feel any differently today?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I I like Christinome. I don't know what kind of
a governor she was because I'm not a resident of
South Dakota. I do know that if she tried to
run for office in South Dakota now she'd have trouble
making city council and brookings.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But I don't know that that's an accurate stay now.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I don't think she's going to head I know people
in South Dakota, and she really alienated a lot of
people in her last.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Couple of years. But I don't think she's going to
head up the Humane Society.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
And I can tell you this. She she's a really
good conservative. She's a rock rib conservative. She's a rock
ribb Maga conservative, and I like that a lot. I
thought that her I thought she delivered the very best
speech of all the speeches at the twenty twenty convention,
Republican convention. But you have to have a certain degree
of discipline if you're going to be a cabinet secretary,
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especially when your issues are front end center in the
American in the American mind. And she's lacked discipline in
response to these two shootings. And you can't be that,
especially when the White House contradicted what she said. You
can't be this now. Stephen Miller is also a firebrand
in the White House, but he's not a cabinet secretary.
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He's not in charge of Trump advisor. Yeah, he just
gets to talk to the President, but he's not in
charge of anything.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
A Republican Senator Tom Tillis called an amateur hour said, quote,
what she's done in Minnesota should be disqualifying. She should
be out of a job. It's just amateurish. It's terrible.
Democratic Senator John Fetterman, who's been aligned with Republicans on
border issues, said quote, Christy Nomes should be fired immediately,
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or we will commence impeachment proceedings in the House of Representative. Well,
that wasn't his statement, that was someone else. He's not
in the House. More than one hundred and sixty House
Democrats said that Fetterman urged Trump to dismiss her quote,
Americans have died. She has betrayed DHS's core mission and
trashing your border security legacy. Though right now she's got
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a job, and Trump says he has total confidence in her.
But they've asked Tom Holman to go to Minneapolis and
report directly to him and not Christy Nos.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I hesitate.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
My hesitation here is do I really want to call
them out? Obviously, any one can make a statement, anyone
can say anything they want, and they did. The Nebraska
Nurses Association was among those in the last few days
that issued a statement on the shooting of the guy
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up in Minneapolis because he is a VA nurse. But
he didn't he didn't die while he was nursing. He
was rendering eight Well see that's the other thing, but
we'll get to that in a moment. The Nebraska Nurses
Association is deeply disturbed and saddened by the death of
Alex Pretty, thirty seven year old registered nurse who was
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fatally shot during a federal immigration enforcement operation conducted by
federal agents in Minneapolis July or January twenty fourth, twenty
twenty six. Is passing as a profound loss for his family, patients, colleagues,
and the nursing profession. And they go on talking about
how trusted nurses are and all the rest of this stuff.
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But circumstances around his death sparked deep concern and public outcry.
We join these groups and calling for a full, transparent
and independent review of the incident. Yeah, and they're they're
doing that again. He wasn't shot in the process of nursing.
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And as far as rendering aid, I'll grant that absolutely.
But here's another thing that I hesitate to say, but
will say anyway, however well intentioned, and I get that
there are a lot of people posting stuff like this
on social media, and their hearts are in the right place,
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But I WinCE every time I see one of these
social media posts that starts with a woman was assaulted
by ICE agents and this guy ran to her aid
and got shot and murdered in the streets because of it.
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The woman and the man in this instance, the man
being the now dead Alex Pretti, were in the streets
impeding a federal operation where ICE officials were trying to
take a dangerous illegal immigrant criminal into custody. None of
this would have happened had they not inserted themselves in
the middle of that operation. So, yes, they were a
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woman and a man. But it's not like they're walking
along licking ice cream, which would be interesting choice when
it's like twenty below zero up there. I'd still do it.
I love ice cream. But it's not like they were,
you know, at work, and these guys came barreling through
the door and said, all right, I'm gonna shove one
of you. Who's it gonna be? You know, these were
people who were committing crimes in being there in the streets,
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impeding a federal enforcement operation. So yeah, accurate, say woman
and a man. Not accurate, not to include the rest
of that stuff. Now, does that mean the guy needed
to die? I wish he had. They're doing an investigation
up there. But let's try not to be so simplistic
about all of this. Lucy, it's January twenty eighth. What
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happened forty years ago?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Today?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six? Eight, Yeah, forty years ago,
it is eighty six.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I added a couple I know it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It seems like forty years ago should be like what
nineteen seventy six sixty six, don't you hate doing that math?
Saying wait a second, if you know my kids at
this age, if I've been doing this at this age,
that would be I'd be doing something. And then you
start doing the math in your brain crashes and freezes,
and that's why we can't get Fox News updates. It
just all goes off the rails. But eighty six, Yeah,
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who wants to take a crack at this one?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Marriage ever?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, we had a little we had a really really
tragic accident happened involving the space program. Yes we did,
and I'll never forget it. It was a particularly warm day.
I was working in Kansas at the time. It was
a very very nice day, and I was playing golf.
I went on and played golf at the public golf
course that day. I mean it was like sixty five
seventy degrees in January in Kansas, and so, you know,
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we didn't have phones back in those days.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It was a nice day here in Omaha because I
remember riding my bike after school that day.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, and you know, we didn't have phones and they
didn't have this immediate news, so I kind of, you know,
I got done with my radio shift and then I
went out and played golf, and I needed to come
back for the afternoons because I wanted to take advantage
of the nice day. So I went straight after the
morning show off to do play golf. Came back and
everybody was just stunned at the radio station.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Because the space the Space Shuttle challenger blew up?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I go, what what? Yeah? That was?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It really was special to kids because there was a
teacher yes on that and for most people that's the
only name we remember of the souls who were lost
that day. Krista McCollough, a name I'll never forget. That
was forty years ago. Today, Rory O'Neil, our national correspondent
here on eleven ten Kfab will talk about that and
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the four decades since. That's coming up here this morning
at eight fifteen on Nebraska's Morning News. Jane has a
more vivid memory of the weather in Omaha forty years
ago today, January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six. Then I
just remember I think I was a third grader, so
fuzzy memory is to exactly how cold it was that day.
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For me, I just have a vivid memory of being
on my bike. We didn't watch it live in our classroom,
but some classes did and they got the message about
what happened when the Challenger blew up. And I was
on my bike after school and kids were talking about it,
and I just have a vivid memory riding that bike
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and thinking about that in the way home. I s
remember it was sunny day, but Jean says it was
windy and bitter cold. Were very Jean said, this is
in Omaha. Jean says, it was windy and bitter cold.
We were burying our grandfather heard the news about the Challenger.
We were leaving the cemetery in Fremont. I was you know,
it was it was the eighties. The kids were outside playing.
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It doesn't matter what the weather was. Yeah, and we
have frostbite and and dermatology scars to prove it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's how that was.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
But yeah, it was an awful, awful day, and it
caused a lot of concern that maybe, you know what,
maybe we should deemphasize the space program and maybe we
should not be doing this anymore. It was a good
run there in the seventies, you know, and we had
guys on the moon and then coming back and then
we put some on Mars and that was really cool too,
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but maybe we should think about something else. Well, President
Reagan will not allow for that, and President Bush after
him said no, no, no, no, no, no. This is
this is what astronauts want us to keep going. We're
gonna have setbacks, just keep going. And we did. And
they figured out what caused the accident. And it's too
bad that the political pressure to get that thing in
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the air caused them to launch when it was very,
very cold, and that's what snapped the old rings on
those gigantic rocket boosters. But it was It was such
a such a sad day, but an inspirational day.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
A couple of emails here from the Zonker's custom was inbox.
Becky says it was my ninth birthday, January twenty eighth,
twenty A parton me nineteen eighty six. And by the way, Becky,
happy birthday today, my ninth birthday. We were all eating
the cupcakes I brought from my birthday. The teacher had
wheeled in a TV so we could watch it live.
A moment in time I'll never forget. Forty years later,
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where did the time go? Neil says, I was a
sophomore at UNL in class in the CBA building, maybe
five ten minutes into the class, a couple of students
came in declared the news. They just watched it on
TV at the Union, seeing what so many people saw
live as they were watching the Space Shuttle challenger.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
If you're looking very carefully at the situation, obviously a
major malfunction.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's how it sounded. On CNN News Radio eleven ten
kfab national correspondent Rory O'Neil joins us live here on
Nebraska's Morning News forty years later.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Rory, indeed, I was in high school at the time,
still living in the northeast, so when I distinctly remember
algebra two class the announcement came over the loud speaker. Yeah,
and I think it is a defining moment for jen
Xers like myself, who remember where we were when we
got the news. You know, so many children were watching
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that day because the first school teacher in space, CHRISTA. Mccauliffe,
was part of that seven member crew. You know. Later,
of course, we would find out it was a faulty
design with the old rings and the cold weather in
Florida that freakishly cold day for Florida, combined with a
NASA attitude of what they call either launch fever or
countdown fever, that combined to cause that tragedy.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You know, we never ever got the identity of that
flight controller whose voice was reverberated millions of times, you know,
the guy that we heard just before he came on, Rory.
I mean, that voice will never be forgotten by people
on that day, but we never actually found his identity. Really,
I think anybody ever told us who that guy was.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm sure it exists somewhere, and the internet's a big place,
but what is I mean? Krista mccauliffe. She was the
teacher they decided we're going to send a teacher up there, which,
as you noted, Rory, is the reason why so many
school kids were watching it. Oh we're sending a teacher
into space. You know, school kids were thinking, I'd like
to send my teacher into space, and then we saw this.
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Of course, she was one of seven people who lost
their lives in that explosion that day. And now we
have NASA talking about the next phase of what we're doing,
maybe the Moon, maybe Mars. What is the impact of
Challenger if both psychologically and from a realistic standpoint on
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the space program these past four decades, well.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Look it's this combination of factors. You've got the as
I read referenced before, this idea of launch fever or
countdown fever. There's a pressure to get this thing off
the pad. In the Christo mcculloff Challenger case, it had
gone several days of delays. They would come down and
then oh technical problem, got a scrub today, and they
did it again and again. So there was a lot
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of pressure on NASA saying, look, the whole world is
watching the school teachers on this one. Let's get it
off the pad. To heck with the fact that it
was so cold outside, and that sort of led to this.
And in two thousand and three the Columbia tragedy, same
idea of well, we saw that the falling foam had
caused problems before, but we never really thought it would
be such a big deal and we'd have to redesign
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the whole tank, and that seems like a big deal,
and let's just keep launching because we have to finish
completion of the space station. And here we are, a
new rocket is on the pad now about to take
humans for the first time on a long trip around
the moon and back. Baby launching in the next ten
days or so, and of course Challenger is fresh there
in the back of their minds.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, that's that's much different than William Shatner going up
in the Blue Origin or whatever that thing is called.
This is the real deal. Rory as our youth. Thank
you very much for the conversation this morning.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
As always, thanks talk to you too.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I'm really enjoying the emails sent to Scott at kfab
dot com and the Zonker's custom woods inbox. We're talking
about this fortieth anniversary of the explosion that gripped the
nation when Challenger blew up. Michelle emails and says I
was in seventh grade at Norris Junior High and science class.
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We were all watching when it exploded. And Omaha, Council
Bluff's such a close knit community. I guarantee there are
people listening right now going, oh, hey, I know her.
It's Michelle, and you've probably tell me your last name
as well. Don't email and say what she look like
these days, I don't know's it's just an email. We're
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we're not set up for video calls yet, but that'll
be fun.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And then this.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
One from Unsigned says, I was the manager of an
Applause video. Oh it was the eighties, wasn't it nineteen
eighty six? I was the manager of Applause Video, and
I was wondering when Scott's friend Jordan's and his whole
family were going to bring back all of the movies
that they rented from Applause Video and never returned. That's
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not what she said, but it's an accurate statement.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
What are you gonna play them on?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
See, this family had four kids, and then the two
parents and each of them had to take out new
accounts because they couldn't continue to rent movies like you
got to bring back the Danny DeVito, Joe Piscopo movie
wise guys before we let you rent more movies. And
so they all were able to rent a bunch of movies.
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And I to this day, in that house in Ralston,
I guarantee there are still several Applause Video rentals in
that house. They never returned anything. It's fun for sleepover.
It's like, what do you guys want to watch? You
guys want to go to Applause. Now, let's just go
over to the shelf, so sorry if that was your
Applause video, She says, I was the manager of an
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Applause video. Regular customer came in to tell us what
had happened. So we had a video on the big TV.
We changed over to the news. About that time, the
chain's owner came in. Mister Applause, Jene Applause, the owner
of Applause Video came in and crabbed at me for
not having a movie on the TV. But we're we're
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watching the news. The Space Shuttle just blew. I don't care.
But let's see, it's nineteen eighty six. Put Top Gun
on there, though in January eighty six. I don't think no,
Top Gun. That was a summer movie. So we're looking
at an eighty five blockbuster. Put Pretty of Pink on there.
I think that was eighty five. Put Breakfast Club on there.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah, there you go. Now you're right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Then Luke emails Untel you I'll give away the end
of the email first and says, I'm sure you'll think
less of me now, but put me in the conspiracy
theory category with Lucy. I guess that's how the email ends.
Luke says Scott I can't believe you think we already
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landed on the Moon. Now, back up, I never technically
said that, and I'm not arguing one way or the other.
I can see I can see the whole situation both ways.
And if it's the way where we didn't and we
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were just trying to get everyone to think that we did,
I don't have much of a problem with it. Take
that Russia anyway, Luke says, if we had the technology
to land on the Moon in the sixties but haven't
been back in sixty years because there's nothing to see there,
there's nothing to see at the International Space Station, and
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we're constantly going there. I don't believe we ever set
foot on the Moon. I don't know if we have
the technology to do it now, but we definitely didn't
have the technology to do it then. And have a
live phone call with the President in the Oval Office,
give me a break. I'm sure you'll think less of me,
but put me in the conspiracy theory category with Lucy,
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I guess we've never had I think a conversation where
I've asked you and Jim Rose directly, did the United
States land on the Moon or is that just a
bunch of hooey.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well, if you don't think the United States landed on
the Moon, then you've been fitted for a tinfoil hat
multiple times in your adult life.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You can't see the point of the people who say,
come on, it's wagged the dog saw this.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
There's plenty of that. But no, I think this is
truly one of man's greatest accomplishments. It was not hatched
in some back room in Washington, d C. To win
over political favor. I'll handle this, Lucy. So why haven't
we gone back since? Don't need to. We've been back
multiple times. We've got everything we need.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, well, I don't need to go back to Council Bluffs,
but I go over there from time to time.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Going to Council Bluffs from Omaha going to the Moon.
You're right, I really can't see the distinction between the two.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
People on Council Bluffs. So like that a shot at potholes.
Now that they've got lots and lots.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Of planets out there, we need to visit before we
go back to the Moon.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
We have lots, and let's go land a man on Venus.
Yeah that sounds like fun.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Sure, Pluto, you know a Saturn Is Pluto a planet again?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Clay Anderson right now is furiously texting me bring me in,
tag me in. You got tag me in?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Way out over your skiz.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I just want to All I want to do is
get on the radio right now. Lucy, do we land
on the moon? She's the official conspiracy theorist here on
Nebraska's morning news.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Sounds like Lucy has a conspiracy theory. Do you well?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
I think to say that you don't think we landed
on the moon put you in a category that a
lot of people are not ready to be in a
lot of people are not ready to talk to, and
there's a lot of conversation about it. That's what I'll say.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
That's a rare non answer from you.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
It's the answer I have for you to.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
The only well, actually it's not rare to get a
non answer, but the non answer answer I always get
from you on anything is follow the money.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
And then she dips back into the shadows.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Which is typically a very very wise path to be
follow This follow the cash, especially as it relates to
anything political, is follow the money.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay, and college sports? Are we going to be able
to figure this out? This morning here on the radio.
You're gonna give it a shot. Definitively, that was my shot.
Did we do we determine anything?
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Not even close?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That was my moonshot. All right, well, there we go.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's a few minutes of your time you'll never get back.
Thanks for spending it with us. I got some pretty
strong opinions though. When it comes to one of those
stories there just reported by Craig Evans. Lucy Chapman's here,
Jim Rose got the rosy Genosi Momentarily, I'm Scott Voorhees.
This is Nebraska's morning news news radio eleven.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
To ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
This is a bunch of well intentioned people, and this
is people of both political stripes that say, well, there
are people who are in this country illegally, and that's
a separate issue, or deal with that, and by deal
with that, we're never going to deal with that. And
then here comes President Trump. But the people are in
the country illegally, all right, they're here. It's not like
we can deport all of them. Once again, here comes
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President Trump. And if they're going to be here, but
they're going to be driving, and we don't want people
driving without being lights drivers. They need a license, to
be able to get insurance. So let's teach them to drive,
and let's make sure that they're in short and if
they're going to be here anyway, then we'll give them
a driver's license and they can They're not going to
be able to vote, they're not going to be eligible
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for benefits. Once again, here comes President Trump. So this
is people both Republican, Democrat and fringe who have said
we need to give illegal immigrants driver's licenses. How many
illegal immigrants actually then go on to get a driver's license.
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Just about every single time you've got someone in the
country illegally and they get apprehended, that's always among the charges.
They're in the country illegally though they've broke immigration law.
But they've also been tied to this gang, drug and
human trafficking. They've murdered one hundred and forty six people.
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They've eaten most of them. So that's cannibalism. You can't
do that. I don't care how hungry you are. Have
a sandwich for crying out loud, jaywalking and driving without
an operator's license and failure to prove insurance. They they're
not coming out of the shadows to get driver's licenses
and insurance. Every single hit and run involving in illegal
immigrants because oh I don't have a license, I'm not
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going They're not sending me back to El Salvador. No license,
no insurance. This nearly always the case. It's just well intentioned,
guilty white people at the Nebraska unic camera going, well,
if they're gonna be here anyway, we should at least
teach them to drive and give them insurance. They're not insurance, well,
to make sure that they can get insurance if they
have a driver uness now you.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Know why your insurance is through the roof.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
They're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
It's you know, we talk about affordability. In fact, I
was thinking of this guy driving in with something we
can discuss.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know, is this right now season?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Right now, let's figure figure out the affordability crisis.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
The problem is the president's president's talking about all of
this progress that he's making and bringing down prices. Well,
I would ask you and you and you and you,
where are you on your homeowners insurance? Where are you
on your property casualty insurance? Where are you on your
utility bills? Where are you on your property taxes? Where
are you on all of these bills you have to
pay every month. Are they going down? It doesn't matter
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how good Wall Street is, it doesn't matter how.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Big GDP is.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
If you don't feel it, you blame the guide that
promised that you would start feeling it.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
We're in a lot better shape, but that was really good,
by the way. We're in a lot better shape than California.
A year after the fires there, fifteen percent of the
homes have started at least started rebuilding that they have
just one done.