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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Nebraska's morning News. I'm Scott Borhees. Jim Rose
is here, Craig Evans back from Vegas, which is a
miracle in and of itself. Lucy Chapman is here, which
is a miracle in and of itself as well as confirmed. Yeah,
just not the fact that you're here. You're always here.
It's just you're a miracle. Was I supposed to unhook

(00:23):
my hoses and cover my plants this weekend? I guess
it got cold, was it? I didn't get that message?
But I supposed to do that. So let's see here, let's.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Check out the water in your basement. You're gonna know. Okay,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
So it got cold, and we got ice and snow
in areas of the country that traditionally never almost never
get ice and snow. There was a phenomenon known as
exploding trees that was kind of making the rounds on
social media. I would love to see a video of
that actually happening, and not AI. I'd probably enjoy an

(00:55):
AI video of it. Anyway, we had the Super Bowl
set and we've got Nebraska basketball ready to go for
arguably the biggest game in Nebraska basketball history tomorrow night.
Now it doesn't necessarily mean anything about how the rest
of the season can go. But when you've got a

(01:17):
top five matchup between Nebraska and Michigan here tomorrow, this
is the game. This is so exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is the toughest game of the season so far,
and we'll see where Braden Frager's ankle is. It's in
the wishing boot right now. I don't know if it's
going to be okay for tomorrow night. Yeah, this is it.
There's a big build up. This used to be the
big ESPN game. You know, everybody would gather around the
tube to watch the infraternity houses and dorm rooms to

(01:44):
watch the big ESPN game. I think it's a BTN
game tomorrow night. How to check the sea because ESPN
doesn't have a contract with the Big Ten, so it
won't be on ESPN, but it's going to be on
somewhere and it'll be on all over the state of
Nebraska for sure. But this is an exciting time and
Nebraska's in first place in the Big Ten Conference by
a game over Illinois, Michigan, and Michigan State. They have

(02:07):
the tiebreaker against two of those, but we still have
twelve games to go, including tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And we've got the biggest news in the country. And
this's gonna sound familiar to you. Ice and a protester
got into a what ended up being a violent altercation
in Minneapolis over the weekend. All right, what are our
thoughts here this morning. I'm sure that everyone's had a
chance to review seventeen different angles of this video. They

(02:35):
have heard the assessment of those who want ICE out
of Minneapolis. They've heard the assessment the Department of Homeland Security.
You've seen with your own eyes these videos. How are
we feeling about this this morning, Jim.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, a couple of things. There are multiple issues sort
of in the air. The first one is, of course
that any violence that's coming from the pro to Honestly,
this is a very very challenging time for them and
public and when they hear elected officials say things they
ought not be saying, that's a shame.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
But that's one issue.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
The second issue is the response by Christinome, the Director
of Homeland Security. Christinomes said things she should not have
said in the wake of that shooting. She did not
know what his intentions were. She said he was there
to massacre ICE agents. That is not proven that has
not been proved, and nor will it be proved because

(03:29):
he's dead now. But at the same time, I think
the public opinion Scott on this is pretty clear. We
want illegal immigrants out of this country. We want criminal
illegal immigrants in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, but we
don't want ICE people shooting protesters, even though protesters in

(03:51):
many cases probably deserve it. But in this case, you
can't make that assertion based on the evidence that we've seen.
And it seems to me, granted I may see things
through a prison that few don't, it seems to me
that the guy was on his hands and knees, the
ICE agent had the weapon. Why was it necessary to

(04:13):
put seven hot ones into him at that point?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Let's address that coming up here in a moment. And
in case you're wandering the level of passion, yes, I
had to hit the delete button.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
What happened here, Jim, just happened here to go I lost.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
For those of you up listening on iHeartRadio, you get
the you get the uncensored feed. So that's that's how
we're starting off. Look, a lot of people very passionate
about what they see, what they feel about what's going on.
Up in Minneapolis. I want to pick your brain about
a couple of things you said there that did make
it on the air after traffic, weather and a news

(04:49):
update next.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
On Newsrady eleven ten KF. Nothing like a little uh
kaim and pepper in your socks in the morning.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
All right, We're doing it everyone on social media and
news exactly what happened in Minneapolis here is we had
ICE agents carrying out a rage of an Ecuadorian migrant
linked to domestic assault. And there's obviously a lot of
protesters who felt the need to try and impede that operation.

(05:17):
They were there in the streets, they were following around ICE.
Let's let's at least try and agree in a couple
of things. This wasn't something where ICE agents were out
looking for the people who were out there in the street.
Whether it's the woman who got pepper sprayed or the
guy who ended up getting shot. These guys went out
looking for ICE. There's any number of different ways social

(05:41):
media apps where you can follow the movement of ICE.
ICE is I'm not even sure if they were actually
staying in this particular hotel in Minneapolis. Protesters are out
there smashing the windows It is just the ugliest scene
you could possibly imagine there in Minneapolis. Now, Jim rows
am to go had some issue with the Secretary of

(06:03):
Homeland Security Christy No. I'm saying she needs to go,
she needs to go. This guy went there with the
intent to mask her agents. We obviously we don't know
that for sure. Why would a guy, though, go there
with a semi automatic pistol and a couple of magazines,
no identification and go in there for the purpose of

(06:26):
following around ICE.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
He shouldn't have been there with a gun, There's no
doubt about it. You show up at a protest with
a gun, especially with a tinderbox that we have in
Minneapolis right now, you're looking for trouble and somebody might
wind up getting shot. So that is another side issue.
What was that guy doing at a protest with a
gun instead of a sign or a whistle or a
snow shovel or whatever the hell they're using these days, right,

(06:50):
But that does But that doesn't explain the behavior of
the ICE agents. And nobody is a bigger fan of
ICE than me, and nobody is a bigger fan of
law enforcement than me. But the guy was on his
hands and knees. Why was it necessary to shoot the
guy seven times when he didn't have the gun anymore
and he was on his hands and knees. That's one issue.

(07:10):
The second one is address number one. The Secretary of
Homeland Security should not be making these declarative statements. And
she did the same thing after the issue with the
lady who was killed by running her car into an
ice agent. Why can't these people just say, until we
have all of the evidence, until we have reviewed the tape,
and until we can conclude something for you, we're not

(07:31):
saying anything fair point to what I've seen on the
videos to your point number one, why they have to
shoot him as he was down there in his hands
and knees, He wasn't He had one officer, that's a
video that I saw, the one officer who disarmed him.
He's still fighting other officers who can't such he should
not have did what And he's trying still to get up.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
He reaches for his holster. He's got something in his hand.
I don't know if it was a magazine of phone
or whatever. There's some evidence that suggests that the gun
that was taken from him had discharged, and now in
that chaotic scene, officers in a split second decision who
didn't have the opportunity to think about it for a while,
they all fire their weapons. So look, this is all

(08:17):
I think started by a fact that a guy goes there,
and don't let's not start calling this like ICE killed
a protest. No, he wasn't killed because he was protesting. Correct,
he was killed because he was impeding in operation and
fighting with ICE agents. And he wasn't even killed because
he had a gun. Well, he had one, which is
not that pest. You should be taking loaded weapons to

(08:40):
a protest, especially in Minneapolis, Minnesota. This again, I ask you,
why would he bring a semi automatic pistol and two
magazines and no identification. I both agree and disagree with
Jim Rose. I agree with you when you said that
Christy Nome spoke too forcefully and automatically assumed the intent

(09:02):
of the guy who went out there with a loaded
weapon with a couple of magazines with the intent of
obstructing ICE operations. And then she added that little bit
like he went out there to commit mass murder as
a domestic terrorist or however, was that she phrased that
By the way, President Trump has not taken the strongest stance.

(09:22):
He just says, look, it's a tragic thing. He wishes
that people would cooperate with ice. But there's a full investigation.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That was too forceful and that assumed intent. Now she's
not judging jury in this one. A very prominent and
influential voice. She probably shouldn't have said that. But let
me also disagree with you and try and crawl into
the head of someone who has been divorced for the
last couple of years. His wife and him used to

(09:55):
go out there and engage in protests. These guys were
George Floyd protesters. But she said, you know, he never
like brought a gun or did anything like that. In fact,
she says, I didn't like his gun. He wasn't allowed
to have his gun around me, which also speaks to
another layer to this conversation, which is here we have

(10:16):
a straight white guy with a gun. The left really
really doesn't like that characterization. They don't like that particular
box checked the straight white guy with a gun bad news.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well, he's welcome to have one. He was licensed to
carry it in the state.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
The left really doesn't like guns. They don't like a
straight white guy with a gun. So this guy goes.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
There, I don't even like straight white guy.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
He's got a semi automatic pistol, two magazines. He does
not have identification. He told his parents, I'm going out
there to protest. They may be sensing that there was
stuff going on in this guy's life, expressly told him,
don't do anything stupid. You can start to get a
picture painted of a guy who potentially left his apartment

(11:04):
that day knowing he wasn't coming home. Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, he was an emergency room nurse at the
Veterans Administration.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
He had a good job. He had.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
That's a tough job, but he had a stable he
had a stable professional life by all indications. He had
a stable family life by all indications. I mean, everybody's
got something, but I mean, by by the general assumption
and the general look of things, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Have a lifeless life, if you will.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
So you know, that's that's assigning all sorts of possibilities
to which is what we do here. I'm not opposed
to that. What I don't like is this, This is
causing trouble for ice. These kinds of episodes are causing
trouble for the giant effort that the people of this
country voted for in twenty twenty four. We want people

(11:58):
who aren't supposed to be here out of here, and
we want people who've committed crimes to be dropped off
in the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans. So that's just
the nature of what the American people desired. They didn't
desire this.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's not ICE's responsibility that they are being harassed, abused,
and in many cases threatened by protesters up there whose
brains have frozen. And it's not ICE's problem that the
mayor up there got dropped on his head as an
infant and the governor is a buffoon. That's not the
problem for Ice. That's what they have to deal with.

(12:34):
But it seems to me the President of the United
States right now, who has been very clear we're getting
them out of there and we don't care what happens
in the process, would do well to have a conversation
with the American people about this, and it would probably
help out.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
If he had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Granted, when you're dealing with idiots, it can be very counterproductive,
but he should have a conversation with the governor and
the mayor in Minnesota and just say, all right, guys, guys,
let's stop yelling at each other for a minute. I'll
be the first one to stop yelling at you. Because
he posted on social media stuff he probably shouldn't have posted.
I don't know if he wrote it, but it came

(13:11):
out on Donald Trump's true social account.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
He always writes.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
He probably always writes it, and that is okay. Here's
what's going to happen. Governor Wallas and Mayor Fry. We're
going to continue to do what we're doing. And I
got more firepower than you do, so le, let's not
have one of those size contests here.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
How about this.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You turn over all of the really bad guys in
your state, and we will take them out of there.
And then we'll start pulling people out of Minnesota, ice
folks out of Minnesota. We're gonna get the thirteen hundred
batties that you won't let us have access to. These
are the rapists and the pedophiles and the murderers and
the thugs that we really don't and I don't think

(13:52):
the people of Minnesota want them there either, And you
don't want them on your dime, So why don't you
give us access to them. We're going to haul them
out of there and you don't have to worry about
him anymore. And in the process, we will draw down
the ICE agents in Minnesota for the next six months.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
What he's been saying, well he didn't especially give a timesline,
but you know they're up there. In this case, ICE
is up there trying to get an a legal immigrant
from Ecuador with the governmental history domestic consult involving intentional
bodily harm, disorderly conduct, driving without a license, putting everyone
in jeopardy. And by the way, he got away because

(14:28):
of the people up there agitating and obstructing. So I
don't disagree. But when you hear the rhetoric coming out
of Christinome, and you hear the rhetoric coming out of
Cash Bettel, the FBI director, and you hear the rhetoric
coming out of Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary, who is
on the Sunday morning talk shows, and you see the
entries into Donald Trump's truth social account, it says just

(14:51):
the opposite. It says, we're going to have a size
contest here, and mine's bigger than yours. Yeah, that's not
helpful when people are getting shot. Because if if you
reach out to Minnesota and say, how do we make
this work to where we get the really bad guys
out of Minnesota. We need your police officers to help ICE.
We need your National guardsmen and state patrol to help ICE.

(15:12):
But you can't just keep yelling at each other and
telling each other that you're the problem. You're committing atrocities,
mister Trump, You're an idiot, Mayor Fry and all the rest,
which is what we've had here. And I got to
tell you, I can't believe that ICE, and I saw
some reporting by Bill Maluchin of Fox News over the weekend.
I can't believe that everybody in Immigration and Customs Enforcement

(15:34):
is happy with what's going on, because everywhere in the
country now, these ICE agents are being even more targeted
than before because of what's happening in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Love to hear your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Scott at kfab dot com via the Zonker's custom was inbox.
That's Jim Rose. He's back with sports brief after traffic,
weather and a news update. Next, we solve problems here
at eleven ten kfab. See if everybody would just listen
to us, no problems. Scott at kfab dot com, all right,
what do you think here? We've got emails from Tom
sent to the aforementioned Scott at kfab dot com and

(16:07):
the Zonkers custom was inbox. Tom says, Jim Rose is delusional.
Make a deal with Tim Walls. He's a Democrat under
investigation for fraud. Tim's not having it. Ron emails and says,
I think what happened was this is the situation where
you've got a chaotic scene. Guys on the ground, a

(16:29):
gun has been removed, he's still fighting, he's reaching and
Ron says one officer saw the gun in his waistband,
remove the gun. Another officer saw the gun but was
not able to see who was holding it and yelled gun.
Another officer heard gun and then shot the guy. Someone
else heard the gun, shots fired, more gun shots. It's

(16:51):
a mass confusion situation. And then Ron decides to end
that email with play stupid games, Win stupid prizes. It's
from Ron listening to us via our free iHeartRadio app
in the beautiful Lake of the Ozarks. Ron, thank you
for the email. Dave says, concealed carry does not mean

(17:11):
carrying one singular gun, Carrie two peacekeepers. So when your
life has been threatened over the last few months for
just doing your job and some moron with the gun
is going nuts, it doesn't mean he doesn't have a
second weapon. He wouldn't have been shot if he was
making his macaroni and cheese in the kitchen. Patrick emails

(17:33):
the same assessment says, you know what would have kept
this guy alive one hundred percent staying home. Look, you
have a right to go out there if you want
to stay on the Shardwalk protests and all that. But Jim,
when you say you know no one wants these criminal
illegal immigrants in our community, I think is very clear
there are people who want, for example, this Ecuadorian illegal

(17:54):
immigrant with domestic violence assault, our records going back and
someone who should be move from our community. ICE is
trying to get him. These guys are disrupting the ICE
operation in the middle of the street, getting in the
way of ICE agents, and this guy brings a firearm
in a couple of magazines there. Why would they do
this if not for wanting ICE not to get this

(18:18):
criminal into customers.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
No, I don't think that's the case. I don't think
anybody with functioning gray matter in the state of Minnesota.
Albeit people do freeze their brains up there this time
of year, and there are a few Boo radleys out
walking around. I get that, But I would say ninety
five percent of Minnesotan's are not protesting ICE getting rid
of bad guys. They're protesting ICE's behavior. They're protesting the idea.

(18:42):
And some of it is founded by no evidence. It's
just been circulated through social media and reverberated by people
like Jacob Frye, the mayor up there, who probably should
be locked up for some of the things he said.
These people don't want criminals walking the streets of Minnies soda.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Nobody's saying does.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
What they're saying is okay, yeah, we want the bad
guys out, but before we get the bad guys out,
we want ICE to stop behaving this way. What do
you mean behaving like what? That's the fundamental question. This
is about playing to the base of people who have
bleeding hearts for somebody who they believe is underserved.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And that's okay.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Our country is a generous nation, it's an empathetic nation.
It's a nation of people who care about others. That's fine.
But the misinformation up there is what's stirring all of this.
The misinformation about a five year old boy who was
detained by ice. No, that never happened. That wasn't the case.
Nobody kidnapped a five year old. What they did was

(19:45):
they protected a five year old and kept him with
his family so he wouldn't be standing out there on
the street.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Alone, including his father who ditched him and who's trying
to bring him out, who told his mother, don't open
the door to let these people put our son back
in our house. Okay, that's all the information that has
been badly mangled by everybody from the mayor to the governor.
It doesn't help when Christy Nome, who probably needs to

(20:12):
go Christine nom can't be making declarative statements representing the
Department of Homeland.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Security like that. She's the she is the leader of
this organization, and you can't be reckless like that. It's
just this is it's all part of the brew that's
causing frump.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Send your declarative statements to Scott atkfab dot com. Doug
says Christy Nomes should be done this week. She hasn't
qualified for the job. All this BS will means something
come mid term time. And Monica says, please tell Jim
to stop lecturing us on a Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's what I've been doing for twenty five years. Monica,
Welcome to the party. Which morning is okay for Jim
to lecture you because week lecture here, we just fire
stuff off and lets.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You consume it.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
We we're talking about what's happening in the news, kind
of what we do, kind of what we do here.
Adam says, one thing lost in the shooting this past
Saturday in Minneapolis is the totality of the past year
and all the violence from the left, from burning Tesla
dealerships to shooting conservatives, it all serves to weaken americans

(21:18):
attention span. We're tired of the crying, storming of churches,
keing of cars, violence against cops, etc. We understand the
crazy leftists are few, but man, they cry loud. Bring
on the midterms. That's from Adam. I think a lot
of people feel like it's no Republicans going to get
re elected in November right now, because the media keeps

(21:38):
telling you that even Trump supporters, look at what's going on,
for example, in Minneapolis, and say we've had enough of
this one thing to consider, and then I'll turn the
floor over to you because I can see you jumping.
There are ice operations going on all over the country. Yes,
they're happening in Omaha, Democratic, they're happening in Texas. They've
been happening in Chicago. Loss, we don't see the same

(22:02):
things that we've been seeing in Minneapolis. Why is Minneapolis
ground zero for people to think is perfectly fine for
them to go up there and get in the face
of these ice operators, infringe upon their operations, taking bad
criminals into custody, try and smash the windows of the
hotels where they're staying at night. Why has this happening

(22:22):
in Minneapolis? And if you guys wanted to stop, let
these guys do their job, take the criminals off the streets,
and then you can destroy the streets on your own
after isisn't there it's your community. Do what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Continues to boggle my mind.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Scott, that a mayor like Jacob Fry again, who I
believe has some sort of an impairment, and Tim Walls,
the governor who's proven that he has multiple impairments. Why
they will allow these people to destroy property in their
own communities. The spray painting on the walls of buildings,
the breaking of doors and windows, the damage that is

(22:58):
done in the city Minneapolis by Minneapolis folks, by Minnesotans,
people who live there. Where is local law enforcement protecting
private property owned by Minnesotans who may be sympathetic to
the cause. They just let this happen. It was like
George Floyd burned down a whole big chunk of Minneapolis, Minnesota,

(23:20):
just because we can. Where are these people protecting Minnesotans.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's a weird dynamic. They're there, They're kind of there.
And the protesters who hated them a few years ago
in the George Floyd deal now seem to love local
law enforcement. They've got local law enforcement wearing like hunting vests,
so hey, we're not homeland security. Where are your local cops?
Where are your good guys? And the same protesters, the

(23:46):
same ilk who hated these guys and wanted them defunded
and dead a few years ago, now look at them
as heroes because they're not Trump's gestapo. That's a weird dynamic.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Look at some of the look at some of the
damage up there. It's minus fifteen degrees in Minnesota, and
yet they have broken out windows on businesses, doors, sliding
glass doors that you go through to enter a building,
whether it's an office building or a hotel or a restaurant.
They've just how are you going to function in a
restaurant if there is fifteen degree windshield coming through your

(24:19):
front door. This is the thing that blows my mind.
In what world is this allowed by people you elect
to enforce? The piece that's not getting discussed. This is
all about the jack boot thuggery of ice, which of
course is a misnomer, but the challenge, and I think
this is maybe one of the most salient remarks that

(24:40):
I heard over the weekend. This erosion of trust may
never ever be rebuilt. The news media up there is
getting it wrong. The national news media is getting it wrong.
The elected officials are making things up. The elected officials
in front of microphones are saying things that are simply
not true just to appeal to a political base. There

(25:03):
is a coordinated, agitated attempt by outsiders to influence this.
It's too organized for it not to be. You have
food for them, you have weapons for them, you have
instructions for them, you have information that is provided to
these protesters by somebody or something that probably doesn't even

(25:23):
live in Minnesota. It's tragic because of the people who
live up there.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I said this.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Before, whether you know you're a Republican or a Democrat,
most Minnesotans don't like what's going on in their communities.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
And it's not the ice that they don't like.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
They don't like the destruction, they don't like the chaos,
they don't like the crime being committed.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Aaron says.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Jim says, ninety five percent of the Minnesotans think correctly. Well,
that's still leaves about two hundred thousand psychos, and I
think most of them are in Minneapolis. There's something weird
going on in that city. Yeah, it certainly seems that way, Aaron.
I appreciate email. Jim and I were talking off the
air here and amongst the conversations some of these high

(26:06):
school transfers coming to Miller South by way of the
University of Nebraska before the even play a snap for
the Huskers, I should tell you that one funny thing
happening on social media amongst the current high school high
school crowd are all of the whether they're athletes or
non athletes. Mostly non athletes are posting on their social
media committed and it shows them like saying, we're all

(26:28):
transferring to Millard South to play football. It's pretty funny.
Like my son was showing his buddies all talking about, Hey,
I just real proud to be a part of the
Patriot program. Can't wait to get started. So it looks
like there's a million different athletes here in the Omaha
area all transferring to Millard South.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
My favorite was Nebraska's all next year's Nebraska alternate uniforms,
it was Millard South.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Tim email says, I want to thank you guys for
telling us about the Frank Caliendo show at the Funny Bone.
I went at the Saturday night six o'clock show. Tim,
I was at the Saturday night six o'clock show. Sorry
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, Frank didn't like you sign an autographs on stage
like that.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, I thought we need. He had some dead time
there and so I Tim says, he's even more amazing
than on TV or the radio. I wouldn't have known
about it if not for Kfab that Caliando show was
packed at the new Funny Bone location. Been there for
a while, but it's the first time I've been there.
Back in the old Vicinity on Lower Dodge near one

(27:30):
hundred and fourteenth, just north of Dodge. They've also got
an arcade with beer that's under the same roof of
the Funny Bones. You can see the show and then
go over there, or you can go over there and
then go see the show. I felt bad for the
people waiting for the eight thirty show. That line was
way down the whole Strip mall and it was cold
on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Did you do any Did he do any imitations of
Greg McDermott.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, he didn't do McDermott, but he did all the
rest of them. As far as you know. It was here.
But they're talking about, let's see here, eight hundred and
twenty thousand people without power right now. That's about two
hundred and fifty thousand and tennessee a more than twelve
thousand flights were canceled yesterday. We're looking at thirty five

(28:16):
hundred cancelations thus far today. At least nine deaths blamed
on this monster of a winter storm. And I know
some people here in Omaha, like this isn't a winter storm.
Omaha is one of the best places to be period
and one of the best places to be. You know,
that's not Scottsdale or San Diego. You know here across
the Midwest and points you know, even southeast.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Of we got lucky on the weather. We got real
lucky and it was it snowed a little bit out
west on Friday night and Saturday morning. But we've had
our share of ice storms and seven to eight inch
dumps so and we've had our power outages. Thankfully none
this time. But yeah, you got to feel for those folks,
especially you know where it's really okay, I mean it's colder.

(29:02):
We have what twenty degrees in Houston. I mean it's
just a lot colder than it's ever been anywhere else.
But then when you don't have power, those people are
just not equipped for it.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, there'll be some people able to go back to
work and school today, and they're saying this might put
more of a strain on the power grid than over
the weekend as people try and get back to their lives,
and today it could be a bad day for power outages.
Hopefully not across the Southwest power pool, including Omaha. This
email from B then that's not B like b EA,

(29:34):
but just the initial B from Lincoln says. These ICE
officers are basically shake and bake with a training pipeline
that's only forty seven days long. Police spend about a
year before graduating, then six months training with the field
officer before patrolling on their own and being fully certified.
I realized the mission is different, but many of these

(29:57):
ICE agents seem like untrained, un disciplined goobers. An ICE
officer who was all of two hundred pounds shoves a
one hundred pound woman ten feet to the curb. Why
no reason for that? Which only escalated thing. This seems
to me like a bunch of roided up losers with
low self esteem and anger issues are put through a

(30:18):
lame forty seven days training course and giving a gun
an absolute immunity And this is what you get now
they don't have absolute immunity. And if you don't want
to be shoved from the street to the curb, stay
out of the street where ICE is engaging in operations
to take a criminal into custody. And look, we can

(30:44):
all argue about the tactics and all that stuff. I
personally would not like to see this woman shoved into
the street. And the way that you do that is
not be in the middle of the street when Ice
is doing operations and then shouting at them and putting
a camera in their face. You can do that in
the sidewalk. You can't do that in the street. So
if you get nudged to the street and then pepper

(31:05):
spray and then here comes this guy coming in there
with his firearm, which he didn't draw, to his credit,
but you're fighting with the officers and then reaching for
the gun, it just creates a very chaotic situation where
things can go terribly wrong. President Trump has yet to

(31:27):
issue definitive judgment on the ICE official who fatally shot
this guy in Minneapolis, saying that his administration is reviewing
everything about the case. He continues to say that the
officials in Minnesota, whether it's the mayor or the governor
that Jim Roses has some pretty pointed comments about, are

(31:47):
a big problem. And well, you continue to say factually
that that is the mayor of Minneapolis was dropped on
his head at birth.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
There can be no other expert a nation for his behavior.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
We don't know for sure whether he was drippled like
a basketball at birth, and then I'll stay to that
as a fact. I'm not arguing. I'm just well, you're right.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I sort of make it sound like it's true, and
by all indicators it is. But we don't actually have
a medical report of him being dropped on his head
as an infant. But when you just look at him walking, talking,
saying things, you get the impression that's exactly what happened here.
We all know about Tim Wall we watched him during
the twenty twenty four campaign. Here's the quote from Governor Wallas,

(32:31):
Nebraska native. He says, which side do you want to
be on the side of an all powerful federal government
that could kill, injure, menace, and kidnap its citizens off
the streets, or on the side of a nurse at
the VA hospital who died bearing witness to such government.
That is such a gross misrepresentation of what happened here.

(32:57):
This guy had a laudable rest. May I wish that
he would have taken the opportunity over the weekend if
he didn't have to go to work to rest, recuperate
and be ready for work today.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
He did not get killed for bearing witness to a
government that can kill, injure, menace and kidnap it's citizens
off the streets, Governor Walls. But that's what he said.
Now we've got President Trump issuing more restraint than Governor Walls.
That's the America you've woken to this morning. Glad to

(33:32):
have you with us here Nebraska's Morning News. Well, I
think we can be thankful that we don't have this here.
And you brought up the point last hour, Scott, which
is again is somehow lost on the national narrative. But
there are ice operations in most every major city in
this country right now, including some that are run by Democrats,
particularly Memphis, Tennessee, New Orleans, Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
We don't have the problems there. And the reason we
have the problems there is that the mayors of the
Memphis and New Orleans, and the governor of Tennessee and
the governor of Louisiana, they are not actively circumventing the
efforts of immigration and customs enforcement by going on television
and going on the Internet and telling people to do

(34:14):
stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
John Ewing released a statement yesterday as a bunch of
people began protesting near seventy second at Dodge because they
don't like ice and they didn't like what happened with
the shooting of a guy up in Minneapolis. Here's the
statement from Mayror Ewing. As we grapple with recent events,
there's anger and confusion. This is, no doubt, a tenuous time.

(34:36):
If you decide to protest, as is our shared constitutional right,
please do so peacefully. The Omaha Police Department will work
to keep all safe. I ask all to practice restraint
and care. I would ask all of us in Omaha
to hold each other, friends and strangers alike in our hearts.
I would ask us to deepen our commitments to one

(34:57):
another as human beings, regard less of circumstance, so that
all who live here feel included, welcomed, and safe. That's
the statement from Mayor Ewing.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Well, I think that's an unfortunate statement because that doesn't
speak to law enforcement. That doesn't speak to the rule
of law. He says, all that speaks to Okay, if
you're here illegally, you get slack.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's not a good message. God bless John Ewing. He's
a nice man.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
He wants everybody to hold hands and get along, and
that's noble. But this has to be about enforcing the law.
And what I would hope that the mayoral policy is,
even if it's not public, is that Omaha police law
enforcement in this community will not impede federal actions, will

(35:45):
not get in the way, and will actually assist in
crowd control or protests if they break out. Now, we've
had a little bit here and there. We've had one
hundred people here or seventy five people there. We have
not had large scale protests. In fact, I would offer
that the accuracy in the reporting of the crowd protesting
crowds in Minneapolis has been inflated. I don't think that's

(36:07):
very big either than it is.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
They're saying up to five hundred to seventy second and Dodge, Yo, Well,
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
There were five hundred people at seventy second in Dodge.
But the truth is that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
But you can't trust him, Scott, I mean you cannot
trust I'm sorry, but you cannot trust the local media
here to report on this story fairly and objectively. The
local media in this community has been on the side
of the protesters and illegal immigrants here consistently that's Jim Rose.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Well, it has Sorry, Lucy, what am I describing? People
had their eyes glued to the TV over the weekend,
wondering how it was going to go. They felt anxious
and very nervous about it. Am I talking about that
guy climbing the skyscraper in Japan? Or just the news,
just the news in general. Yeah, and now we have
the added anxiety of wondering, are the government is going

(37:01):
to shut down again? Sounds like that could be imminent.
We welcome on Here News Radio eleven to ten kfab
White House correspondent John Decker. Back to the program, John,
do we have a government shut down on the horizon.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah, it's possible. You know, if you ask me that
question on Friday, I give you a different answer than
the answer I'm giving you today. And the reason has
to do is that fatal shooting that happened on Saturday
morning in Minneapolis that has changed the dynamics of the situation.
Democrats now say they will not support funding the Department

(37:37):
of Homeland Security as long as their procedures for dealing
with protests on the ground in Minneapolis remain in place.
And so that's the issue. And we have four days,
four days until that deadline for reaching an agreement to
keep the government open.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, partial government shut down January thirty, This defunding deadline,
I can't. I mean, there's no way that Democrats are
going enough of them are going to come over with
the Republicans and do this. So what happens after this
deadline passes later this.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Week, Well, just that a partial government shutdown. You know,
there are some parts of the government that are indeed
funded because of funding bills that will likely be passed
between now and that deadline that you mentioned, But as
it relates to the DHS, that's the department that has

(38:34):
oversight over ice, for instance, that would not be funded. So,
you know, we'll see, we'll see if there are any
meetings of the minds that take place between now and
that January thirtieth deadline to avoid that partial government shutdown,
and we'll see if that changes the way in which
the entities, the federal agents that work for the Department

(38:55):
of Homeland Security deal with those protests on the ground.
In Minneapolis, we.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Just went through a forty three day shut line shutdown
I think probably about forty three days ago, maybe a
little more than that.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, is this shutdown.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
When you talk about a partial government shutdown, does this
next one here potentially after Friday, look like the last
one with military members not getting paid and all the
rest of this.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
No, it doesn't. And that's the reason why we call
it a partial government shutdown, because there are certain departments
that have gotten their legislation approved, their appropriations approved by Congress,
and so that kind of situation that we saw happen
in November with the government shutdown would not exist with

(39:40):
this potential government shutdown which would happen at the end
of this week.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Got it, John Decker, thank you so much for the reporting.
As always, thank you. Keith emails and says, I can't
seem to remember when Republicans ever had a real good protest,
a protest just to protest something that won't change a thing.
I think what he's talking about is standing out there
in the street holding signs, encouraging people to honk and

(40:04):
wave and so forth. It doesn't exactly seem to be
Republicans thing, not to say that conservatives don't gather. As
the wind chills were below zero and snow was bearing
down on the East Coast, the media probably mostly neglected
to tell you that the March for Life was held

(40:25):
over the weekend in Washington, DC, and there were thousands
and thousands underdople there and hundreds of billions and billions,
millions and millions. There were a lot of people out there,
a lot more people there than protesting in Minneapolis. Right,
Is that a protest? Well, no, it's just it's a gathering.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Nobody got shot, nobody's building got spray painted, nobody's windows
were punched out.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
As far as here in Omaha. I had to laugh
when Jim Rose, without evidence, said I don't believe the
local news. Let me I tell you four to five
hundred people were out there at seventy second at Dodge yesterday.
Now you weren't out there. You weren't out there. Crowd
estimating well, jd emails and says his wife Jenny, Jenny

(41:14):
happened to be driving at seventy second a Dodge yesterday
and she was gonna go to the target there at
that intersection, but ended up not going because of how
many people were there and in the area. She didn't
give me an estimate, but she said there were a
ton of people there. So there was two thousand pounds
of people. According to her estimate. But you wonder i'd
be twenty people. How many people were going to go

(41:37):
to Target. We're going to go to Raisin Canes, maybe
even I mean, we did go down in that area.
I didn't notice the protesters yesterday because we approached seventy
second and then took that jog over on Rose Blunkin
because I wanted to go look at her refrigerators, so
we I didn't see any of that protests. But for

(41:59):
people who went through the intersection, you wonder how many
people are like I just got to run into Target
for something and then thought, eh, maybe not today. I
can't imagine those business owners are real pleased about all this.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
No, they never are.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
And there are also a number of people who were
patronizing those businesses. There are a lot of businesses on
that corner going to be more when the library opens,
A lot of people down there are going to go
to the library. I certainly would. It's a pretty cool building.
Not a big library goer myself, but I might pop
into that. Well, you should learn to read, well, I
read other things rather than go into a physical library.

(42:31):
That's a separate conversation. But yeah, there's a lot of
stuff there, drive through coffee places on that corner. Target
is a popular destination on the weekends. That's a popular
target because it covers a lot of territory in midtown.
There are also apartment complexes over there, just off seventy second.

(42:52):
A lot of people coming and going. So how many
protesters were there? Good question. But I mean I've watched
estimates from people in the local media of crowds in
the past that have absolutely not been accurate.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Right, Well, the media loves the show. If there are
three people out there holding a sign, protesters gathered it,
it sounds like there were a lot more than that.
However many that was I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
For me, but there was no damage, which is near
the WEE can tell there's unlike maybe some of the
marches from the George Floyd summer.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
It was peaceful. That is awesome for me. I'm still
boycotting the area of seventy second and Dodge until they
bring back fud Ruckers buildings still there, I think of
the logo is still on the building.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I want fud Ruckers. I want that back immediately. And
Family Fund Center, Jim, are you not going to do
the news about how Nebraska has made history in the
world of sports. In sports brief, we have now given
a Division one power flag football offer to McKenna Cook

(43:54):
from California to play flag football for the Huskers.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You got an offer.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Matt Rule was part of the little video conference with
her to say, hey, you're gonna play.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Here is she gonna go to Millard South.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
She's gonna go to Millard South. Yeah, she's gonna go
to Millard Well, she's gonna transfer. She's gonna every day
she's gonna commute to Millard South via California, and then
she's gonna play a flag varsity flag football for the
Nebraska Cornhusker flag football team.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Well, they don't have flag football at Millard South unless
it's an intramurro sport. So unless they add girls flag football,
she'll be forced to play on the boys team, which
could gin up a big controversy in UH boys and
girls and girls and boys sports.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
This is Nebraska's Morning News. Jim respond to New York
Congresswoman Alexandria Ocazio Cortes. She says Senators need to vote
no on the spending bill. She doesn't want them to
fund the Department of Homeland Security because that funds ICE.
She says, we need to shut this down because the
Department of Homeland Security quote just shot a man in

(45:03):
broad daylight, two weeks after they shot a mother in
the face without consequence unquote. That's why we're going to
have a government shutdown after Friday. Apparently, well that's what
she'd like. She's a member of the House, so she
doesn't get to decide. There will be an ongoing discussion
about funding Homeland Security and immigration and customs enforcement. The

(45:25):
President is sending Tom Holman to Minneapolis to meet with
the folks there specifically, I think the mayor and the
governor in Saint Paul.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Hopefully these guys can and I think Tom Holman has
enough credibility because you remember he was appointed originally by
Barack Obama and was kept around during the Obama administration.
Went really heavily for President Trump in twenty sixteen when
he was running against Hillary Clinton. But Holman does have

(45:55):
some horsepower that I think can't appeal to the right.
He doesn't throw a lot of bombs out there when
he does his public appearances.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
He's very pointed and very direct, and he's obviously very
very passionate about illegal immigration in this country and what
we need to do to stop it. He's been the
architect of that border policy that has essentially shut that
border down in record time. Nobody is coming across illegally anymore.
So maybe he'll make some progress with these guys. And

(46:27):
maybe we can give Christi a vacation to the Virgin
Islands for a week or two so she doesn't make
any public and press appearances representing the Department of Homeland Security.
Maybe that'll help tone things down now.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Jane Kleb is responding, she's the head of the Nebraska
Democratic Party. She didn't like what Christy Nomes said. She
never likes anything Christy Nomer anyone from this administration.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Says, and like anything right in Republicans.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Jane also says that this guy who was shot was
a nurse who cared for veterans. He showed up not
to provoke violence, but to help his neighbors as they
exercise their constitutional rights.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Well, she doesn't know that, that's her that's her speculation,
and just as Christy nomes speculation was that he showed
up to massacre ice agents.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, he showed up with no intent to provoke violence.
He had a gun, weapon and two magazines and no
identification and told his parents, I'm going in. They said, hey,
don't do anything stupid. He also comes from the George
Floyd protests and and it it says to me that

(47:29):
either he forgot his ID or potentially with someone who
went there with a loaded gun no ID, told his
parents maybe some form of goodbye, and didn't intend to
go home. I don't know. Jane doesn't know, Christy doesn't know.
I don't know. We don't get a chance to ask
this guy. If he'd stayed home, he'd still be at
a v A nurse if he had.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
If he had shown up with a sign, not a gun,
he would have reported to the Veterans Administration Hospital this
morning for his shift. Why he approached the most mootitile
public position in the country with a loaded weapon is
a great question, and it's unfortunate. But when you go
into that scenario, with all of the tensions at the

(48:12):
place where they were, a loaded gun can get you killed,
and it did so did he deserve it? Well, Let
the investigation play out and we'll know. But these declarative
statements by people like Janekleb, who doesn't know her rear
end from third base about it, or Christy Nome, who
is the Director of Homeland Security and should know better

(48:32):
and should keep her lip buttoned until she has the facts.
If these people would just stop making declarative statements in
front of live microphones, we'd probably make some progress. If
we could keep that buffoon governor of Minnesota from putting
on a stocking cap, reaching over the fence of his
walled mansion and telling people to take videos so that

(48:55):
we can document the atrocities, which is a reference to
not see concentration camps, we probably make some progress.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I would love to see the face to face conversation
between you and Secretary Nome where you tell her why
don't you keep your lip buttoned?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah? And I would What decade is this?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I I just say, Secretary Nome, First of all, I'm
a big fan. I think she's one of the great
conservatives in American and the American body politic today. But
she has a tendency to say the wrong thing, and
that's not healthy when you are the director, you're the
Secretary of Homeland Security. Now, if you're just some hockey

(49:34):
puck walking up and down the street like the rest
of you can say anything you want, but when you're
the Secretary of Homeland Security and it's your job to
manage this.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Stuff, you can't say stupid things like that.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Why don't you keep your lip, keep that lip buttoned,
keep that yap closed until you get all the information.
I have a statement, and this talks about where whether
some Republicans are changing their vote that is leading up
to this potential government shutdown I think presumed government shutdown

(50:06):
later this week. Partial government shutdown. It comes from Senator
Pete Ricketts of Nebraska says, the nation witnessed a horrifying
situation this weekend. My prayers are with the family of
Alex Pretty, that is, the guy who was shot. My
support for funding ICE remains the same. Enforcing our immigration
laws makes our streets safer. It also protects our national security,

(50:28):
but we also maintain our core values as a nation,
including the right to protest and assemble. I expect to
prioritize transparent investigation into this incident, which is going to
be tough to do since two people see the same
video and they see wildly different things, whether it was
the woman in the car or the guy in the street.
Now you got a statement here from Dan Osborne. He's

(50:50):
the independent Democrat, independent running against Ricketts, and he says, yeah,
our pulling shows that it's neck and neck. We're essentially
tied here before November election. Do you believe that dan
Osborne and Pete Ricketts are tied right now?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I believe it's closer than people think. And the reason
for that is that dan Osborne has not yet seen
the wrath of Pete Ricketts's negative ads. We are still
sort of looking at dan Osborne through the lens of
the twenty twenty four election when he gave deb Fisher
a long run, because Deb frankly slept on that race
until the last two months. So we haven't seen the

(51:26):
full weight of what the Ricketts campaign will do with
negative ads detailing his behavior, detailing his activities, detailing probably
some very very personal things about his life and his family.
But the truth is Nebraska is a populist state. Now,
It's not a populis state conservative. It's just populist, which

(51:48):
means that we tell the government get that out from
time to time, and dan Osborne represents that. I think
he's a democrat, I think he's a socialist. I think
he subscribes to the liberal orthodoxy. But you can't argue
that populism pops up now and then in Nebraska, and
the established Republicans, the conservative Republicans, and the country club

(52:11):
Republicans in the state need to remember that once in
a while, folks say I've had enough, You've screwed this up.
We're going to get somebody new. Whether that's a good
idea or not. As irrelevant, it happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
No statement from Dan Osborne on the Ice situation a
budget issue.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
He needs to be asked.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
He's not going to issue a statement about anything. He
needs to be asked. And if he's asked, tell us
what your view. If you'd been a United States Senator,
would you vote to shut off funding for ice? Mister Osborn.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I'd love to have him back on the program. I'm
come sure we will soon.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
The President said I'm not supposed to tell you guys this,
and then started talking about the discombobulator. That's not a
reference to himself, though it would be an excellent I
wonder is that the Secret Service nickname for President Trump,
the Discombobulator. He started talking about how we used a

(53:08):
secret weapon the discombobulator to disable equipment in Venezuela when
the US brought into custody wanted fugitive and illegitimate former
leader of Venezuela, Nicholas Maduro. He said, he says the discombobulator,
I'm not allowed to talk about it, and then talked

(53:29):
talked about it. He said the weapon made Venezuelan equipment
quote not work unquote, said they never got their rockets off.
They had Russian and Chinese rockets, but they never got
one off. We came in, they pressed buttons, nothing worked.
They were all set for us. And then he says
the US had turned off almost all of the lights

(53:51):
in Caracas. Didn't detail how exactly that was done, and
says they said, what more can you tell us? He's
allowed to talk about it. And then what about all
the oil aboard these seven oil tankers connected to Venezuela
that the United States has seized but won't reveal where
the ships are because I'm not allowed to tell you

(54:11):
that either. But let's put it this way, they don't
have any oil. We take the oil. That's the comments
from the discombobulator aka President Trump