January 9, 2026 • 50 mins
Protests (here, there and everywhere), Hurricanes, Trevor Thrasher on dangerous obstructors, Greg Wagner from NE Game and Parks, Lucy tossing out her "Men of KFAB" calendar, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great to have you with us. Thank you so much
for being up on a Friday morning here on Nebraska's
morning news. My name is Scott Voorhees. I'm here with
Lucy Chapman and Craig Evans. Jim Rose is here too.
Scott at kfab dot com is open for you. That's
the Zonkers custom woods inbox. Jim has got bags under
his eyes. You could put groceries in because I imagine
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you were up late watching now. The timeline is Jim
Rose's daughter went to ole Miss. Yesterday on the radio,
Jim Rose said, if ole Miss wins the national Championship,
I will sing the old Miss Alma mater right here
on the radio. I was looking forward to for a
couple of reasons. One, I like that quarterback for that team.
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And I like the fact that this guy who's kind
of been serving as their head coach was Lane Kiffin's
Tody there for assistant I should say coordinator for several
months and then suddenly it's like, hey, you ever head
coached before? No, all right, you are now, And he
could lead his team towards the national championship. Well. In
the last seconds of last night's game, all of that
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came crashing down as the Hurricanes prevailed. The running ReBs
didn't get it done, and Jim Rose looks like he
stayed up and watched the entire Dad, I watched the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I was pretty upset, and then I had to go
out and take a walk around the block, you know,
because I was all mad. But yeah, after Trinidad Chambliss
hit the go ahead touchdown pass, I knew there was
too much time left and I'm thinking, okay, we either
need a quick strike by Miami to get you know,
all missed the ball back with three minutes to go
or two and a half minutes to go, or they're
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going to have to get a stop and they couldn't
get a stop. But you know, Miami really dominated the game.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It was it was not that close. If you look
at the statistics of the game. Miami had a double
the amount of time of possession, They dropped four interceptions,
they missed a field goal. So he as much, which
is you know, hotty Toddy. We were all hoping for
a miracle, and you know, I thought they had a
shot there after they won that that got that last
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touchdown and then hit the two point conversion. I knew
there was just a little bit too much time left.
I figured Miami would get a field goal and go
to overtime. But too bad for the Revs. They lost it.
It was a wild last month and a half of
the year for them. With Lane Kiffin leaving taking half
the staff, Pete Golden got the job as the defensive coordinator,
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elevated a head coach trying to figure out which assistants
wanted to stay and which ones wanted to go because
Kiffin was putting a lot of pressure on the assistance
to leave.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And now we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
How many of the Rebels will stick around, just like
any other team now in the playoffs. After tonight, it'll
be the same deal with Oregon and Indiana. Which players
are going to get plucked away by other programs in
the transfer portal now that the season is over. But
if you're an old miss fan, and I don't know
how many of them around here, there aren't a lot
of Mississippi people.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't think there probably are, but I think there
are a lot of Miami detractors.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, a lot of people hate Miami. That's the camp
in which I fall. I don't know who they're playing.
But whoever they're playing, I love them because I hate
Miami except Texas. But yeah, yeah, Texas is in that group.
But I don't know how many Ole Miss fans are
around here, but this was This was the best football
they've played in sixty some years. They were really good
back in the nineteen sixties under a coach named Johnny Vott.
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They probably were the national champion in nineteen sixty one.
But the writers screwed them because of the race riots
down there, because they were trying to, you know, put
a kid in a black kid into Ole Miss, and
we had all sorts of really dreadful activities as associated
with that, and the Eastern writers really screwed Ole Miss
and kept them out in the national chancel.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's how it goes in Trump's America. It can I
heard some protesters and that's what they said. Yeah, so,
but you know, we're proud of them. I'm going to
try to get down there next year.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I love going to ball games down there because the grove,
that pregame experience is just like any other in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, your daughter went there, and so therefore you got
an affinity to the school. My daughter to k state,
and I'm only slightly coming around to the idea that
I can't hate the Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, well, and it's closer for you. It's a lot
easier to get down there than it was for us.
You know, it's seven plus hours driving to Oxford from Omaha.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I got to go through Arkansas then, and then when
you get there, you're in Oxford.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah. Well that's a pretty cool little town. Now you
just go easy, you go easy on Oxford. It's William
Faulkner's down there. It's a very cultural epicenter. Yet he's
not anymore, but he was. There's a big shrine to
you know, there's a lot of music originated, a lot
of great jazz originated down there. And Shepherd Smith, the
Fox News anchors from Ole Miss. Yep, he went to
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Ole Miss. Yeah, a couple other people. Yes, he's got
pretty eyes. And they have the speed limit of eighteen
around the campus. That's right, eighteen is the campus speed limit. Yeah,
that's because that's Archie Manning's number.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, all right. We had a few protests yesterday. When
I say a few, very few protest protest is a
seventy second at Dodge, I counted six on the news.
That's all it takes. The news will go out there
and go protest in Omaha today after ICE agents shot
a woman in Minneapolis, and here's like six people, one
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guy with a megaphone shouting at cars. Now this is
as it's pouring rain. People of course got their radio
turned up to KFAB. They can't hear this guy yelling
at them with the megaphone. I especially liked it when
KMTV three News Now showed one of the signs that
says Republicans in uniforms are armed and dangerous threat to life,
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limb and liberty. Thanks Channel three good stuff. Well that's
what the sign said. The story said, despite cold rain
and dropping temperatures, protesters who could have all driven there
together in the same suv, gathered at seventy second a
Dodge to demand justice after ICE shot and killed a
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woman who was obstructing ICE operations and would knock get
out of the car as instructed to do, and then
tried to gun her car in the vicinity of where
an ICE officer was standing. And there's an investigation in
all of that. But they were out there holding signs
saying Republicans in uniform are armed and dangerous, and one
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of the demonstrators holding a cardboard sign said, I'll stand
out here. I'll be out here until this cardboard dissolved.
I looked it up. It takes about two months sure
or cardboard to dissolve to completely dissolve in water. So
you can look forward to seeing Billy out there at
seventy second dodge if I take him at his word,
and why wouldn't I for the better part of the
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next two months. That puts us in early March the
weather should be a little better.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But well, you know, next week, the weather's actually looking
pretty favorable for Billy, you know, Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
If you were to go through the.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Crowd of people protesting, and we had protests in Portland, Oregon,
had them in the Twin Cities, had them all over Minnesota,
actually not all over Minnesota, because a lot of Minnesotas
think this is really really bad stuff, these protests and
these these these agitators and these anti ice people. A
lot of Minnesotas all over the state of Minnesota are
just thoroughly disgusted with the way their leadership is behaving.
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If you were to go through the crowd and ask them,
do you know what you're protesting. Do you have a
functioning knowledge of all of this? Well, then that's it
was going to be. Let me get back to you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh sure, you know we have Hitler who sent his
gestapo out there to murder young mothers. Exactly. The Vice
President spoke about that young mother yesterday. That didn't calm
down anyone who is very, very upset all the time
with the Trump administration. I'll tell you what Vice President
Advance aid in just a moment. First though, let's get
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to sports brief.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Kayfby Husker Info strong man Sean Callahan at six forty seven.
He'll update us on who coming in and who's going out.
Kenneth Williams was a big surprise. They made a big
deal out of him mid season. Hey, this is the
guy you know, we want so much for that. And
like I said, Anthony Jones.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Why do we need to have Sewn on here? We
already got the assessment from you.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But because Sewn actually takes the emotion out of it.
And then Jones, the guy that a guy that has
five schools in four years, so five years, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
How many schools are there, he's only been to five.
He's only been to five statistically zero surrounding error. All right,
thank you very much, Jim Rose. Now to someone who
is panhandling in the inboxed via an all staff email.
It's Lucy Chapman. Lucy Well, she just emailed everyone on
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staff and said, does anyone have a calendar I can
use to hang in the traffic? You're what you're you're
begging our co workers to buy you a calendar. I'll
buy you account.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We're still sign here saying I can't stand here.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I you know I gave you. I lovingly gave to
you the men of KFAB twenty twenty six calendar and
uh promptly wondering what happened to it?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, it got thrown away. You know those little sohos,
those little fireplaces that you can put on your deck
and either smoke free or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That is infuriating. Terry Lahey was January. I think he
went up first this winter. We're going to talk in
an hour from now with the frequent eleven to ten
KFAB contributor Law enforcement military background tactical expert Trevor Thrasher
will be our guest to answer questions like, you know,
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why didn't they just shoot out or tires you know what,
And also the mobilization of protesters around the country and
how dangerous that is in a situation where law enforcement's
doing their work and some woman decides non not on
my watch, and I'm just gonna try and obstruct them,
including blocking the road with my car. About that woman
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in Minneapolis, Vice President jd Vance addressed the media yesterday,
called that woman brainwashed, said I can believe that her
death is a tragedy, while also recognizing that it's a
tragedy of her own making and a tragedy of the
far left, who has marshaled an entire movement, a lunatic
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fringe against our law enforcement officers. What young mother shows
up and decides they're gonna throw their car in front
of ice officers enforcing legitimate law. You've got to be
a little brainwashed to get to that point. Now, the argument,
and it's a legitimate argument, but you never hear the
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other one. The legitimate argument is, well, why did the
officer have to shoot? Was his life really in danger?
Of course, the other side of that argument is why
couldn't she have stopped the car and gotten out? When
law enforcement repeatedly asked her to do so, and you
had a guy standing in front of her car, So
no one ever asked that question she was trained, But
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well she was. He's trained.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She's an anti ICE protester. She was trained how to resist,
how to use your car as a weapon, what to
do if you encounter ICE agents. This woman was trained
to do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All of this. She's a warrior. And look, I don't
have any problem with the investigation as to whether this
was justified. But as I said yesterday loudly and repeatedly,
these people who are, to Jim's point, training these protesters
to act like this are going to get more people arrested, injured,
and potentially killed if they don't tell them. Look, if
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cops are telling you to get out of the car
or show your hands or whatever, you got to do that.
So Vice President Advanced yesterday was asked straight up, do
you really believe that she tried to run over this
ICE agent and hurt the guy.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Look, I don't know what it's in a person's heart
or in a person's head, and obviously we're not going
to get the the chance to ask this woman what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What I am certain of is that she violated the law.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
What I'm certain of is that that officer had every
reason to think that he was under very serious threat
for injury or.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
In fact, his life.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
What I'm certain of is that she accelerated in a
way where she ran into the guy. I don't know
what was in her heart and what was in her head,
but I know that she violated the law, and I
know that officer was acting in self defense. And that's
it raised an interesting point though. Look, if people want
to say that we should have a legitimate debate about,
you know, what was she really doing?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Was she panicking when she drove into this officer or
was she actually trying to ram him. That's a reasonable conversation.
What's not reasonable is for so many of you to
plaster all over the media that this was an innocent
woman and that the ice agent committed murder, which is
what many of you have said explicitly and some of
you have said implicitly.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's what I have an objection to.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
The idea that this was not justified is absurd, and
I think everybody knows it in their heart.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yet that is the Vice President of the United States
of My America, jd Vance right there.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
This is the tragedy aside from a dead person. And
by the way, this ICE agent had been attacked before,
the one that fired the shot had been attacked by
protesters before, dragged with a car, dragged by a car.
The tragedy is where's the news media on this, Scott?
The news media journalism really is dead. We for two
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hundred and fifty years have had opposite views of political issues,
opposite views of how things happen and what worked out.
You had one side see in one thing and the
other side see in the other. And the referee was
the news media. Okay, you think this, you think that
here's what really happened. Okay, we have a blindfold on.
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We're just reporting the facts that has not happened in
this incident.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He's right.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
We've had members of the news media accused this ICE
agent of murdering this woman. Well, murder is a crime
that is an actual crime that should be investigated and
then brought to a trial and then in front of
a jury decide whether it's actually true. But the news
media has already painted this ICE agent as a murderer.
And this woman who was killed, who is an ICE
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anti ICE trained warrior by organized and financed protest organizations
is some sort of victim. She's no victim. She was
there impeding law enforcement. And there is no gray area
on the law. You are absolutely welcome to peacefully protest
anything you want, but you can't impede law enforcement. And
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this was a legitimate law enforcement act. I don't know
why that is so confusing to so many people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I hate that she got shot. The way that should
have worked out was all right, man, you got to
get out of the car. Well, I'm gonna leave my car.
That's fine, we'll move your car. We'll do this, but
you're under arrest for And then she gets led away
in handcuffs and everyone says she's great, and they post
her bail and she goes and she gets to tell
everyone for the rest of her life, Hey, you see
me on the news. That's how that should have gone exactly,
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but due to her actions, it did not go that way.
And to the Vice President's point, there's an investigation into
all this. It's a legitimate question to ask, as is
the other one. Why did she have to act the
way that she did. And to your point, Jim about
people referring to it as murder, it's laughable to me.
Now that you've got the mayor in Minneapolis and the
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governor of Minnesota both referring to the ICE agent as
a murderer in this situation as murder, and then they
turn around and wonder why the FBI took the investigation
into it away from the state of Minnesota, because your
top officials have already decided this man's guilt and that's
not how it works. And they have the audacity to
act surprised about Governor walltas is like, Hey, how come
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the FBI is doing this because you called the guy
a murderer?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You do is they have some sort of organization up
there that is, you know, the Minnesota state Law enforcement
or law criminal behavior agency of some kind. And they said,
why is it that they aren't conducting this investigation? Well,
why is it that they haven't been out there rounding
up these protesters who are breaking the law. Okay, these
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protesters are allowed to break the law, And why is
it that this the FBI has taken over this investigation
for that reason what you said about what the mayor
of Minneapolis and the governor of Minnesota said, but also
this your record of enforcing the laws up here, federal, state, local,
and otherwise is deplorable.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
He has called out the National Guard to I don't
know to what to fight ICE on behalf of the
pro Well, what are they gonna do? It's a tenuous
situation there. We had to ICE agents shoot a couple
of people in Portland. I'll give you a few quick
details on that. Federal ICE agent shot a man and
a woman. The city council president says these people are
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Portland residents. The Department of Homeland Security says they are
illegal immigrant trend arag what Venezuelan gang members. I suppose
both could be true. But of course protests are going
up there because ICE agents could shoot penny Wise from
it and there would still be people out there protesting. Well,
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I don't know why. ICE just couldn't shoot the balloon
out of his hand. They didn't have to shoot him.
You know, that's where we are in this country. It
only happens in the movies. Yeah, I know. Thanks for
being with us as we navigate all of this. Someone
do me a favor and wake my son up. He's
got to go to school. Hey, let's go. Hey, get up.
Quit being such a burden on your poor mother. Go
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to school there that ought to handle that Father of
the Year Scott for he's here with you.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Turn on your trim lights. You can do that from
your phone. Yes, start blinking them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, And those are relatively close to where see. His
head is on his pillow. His window is open enough
that that light would come into the room. But you
don't understand he's a sixteen year old boy. I could
have strobe lights going off with his eyes opened by
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use of like toothpicks, and he's still like there'd be
nothing there. You'd wave your hand in front of his
open eyes and you'd realize he's asleep with his eyes open.
He's like a horse. It's weird. So, speaking of parenting,
we've got a local mother and her friend who had
been sighted by Omaha police. Did you guys see the
story the other day? It was a couple of days
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ago where Omaha Police Department put out a picture of
a little girl and really sadly scant details about this girl,
like she's somewhere between We figure she's somewhere between three
and six, and she only can tell us her first name.
This girl, she doesn't know her last name, she doesn't
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know her address, can't find her way back to her house.
She's just hanging out on a street corner in northeast Omaha.
Doesn't know how old she is, so they estimated her
age between three and six. If she's three, she'd probably
tell you she's three. If she's six, she ought to
be able to tell you she's six, and her mom's
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name and her last name, and her address and what.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
They didn't graduate kindergarten without that stuff. I remember that
we had to know that stuff before they let us, like, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
One hundred percent true. It took me three years, but
I got out. And I tell you what, if you
spend three years in kindergarten, by the time you're finally
out of kindergarten, no one can beat you in dodgeball.
It worked out in my favor, and I got a
bad case of the dumbs, But no one could beat
me on the blacktop. So they eventually they put her
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picture out on media and social media. Someone says, I
think I know that kid. They call the police. Police
go over to the house. Mom said she fell asleep
at four am and didn't wake up till five pm.
She assumed that her daughter was with her friend. Police
go talk to the friend friend doesn't know stuff from
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page five and has outstanding warrants. So mom's boyfriend's been
taken into custody and the mother has been cited for
child neglect. Thankfully, girl's okay, relatively speaking. At some point
she's back in this situation in her home. I you know,
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it's I still think it's the holiday season, so I'll
charitably say, I hope this mother takes advantage of the
second chance you will be given to be there for
her daughter. I don't know where the girl's dad is.
Perhaps they could rouse him and say, hey, someone might
want to take care of your kid, because you can't
just be out wandering the streets at the age of whatever.
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Turns out she's four and she's I don't know who's
got her in custody right now, maybe family members. But
so that sad update to that story. Again, Thankfully, the
girl's okay. Remember the story, Geez. A year and a
half ago, lady goes to a bank, goes home in
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Elcorn where she gets jumped by a car load of
thugs broad daylight, middle of the afternoon, some weekday afternoon.
They thought, well, I think she was followed from the bank.
We had That was August of twenty twenty four. We
have an update on that story. I'll have it for
you next after traffic, weather and a news update. Scott Vorhees,
Lucy Chapman is shaking her head at me. Don't hurt
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your neck, but if you do, we have lots of
chiropractors on standby, including several listeners who would be happy
to rub your neck for you. Really sure?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And why is that?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because there are messuses in training, and it's kind of
like when you go to the Bonner School of Hairstyling
and you got someone who's learning to cut hair cut
your hair for a few bucks. You know, it's the
same thing. We could let these several steal thumbed massuses
in training who listen to this radio station rub your neck.
I'll put up the few bucks and we could get
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that done for you.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Copy that. I'll make a note of it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Who wants to rub Lucy? Email rub Lucy. Let's calm
down here, Well why are you emailing he wants to
rub Lucy? It's legitimate, it's therapy. It's Jim Rose, Creig
Evans here, I'm Scott Vorhees. What this is? News Radio
eleven ten kfab August twenty twenty four, lady goes to
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the bank, drives home. As soon as she gets home
to her home in Elkhorn, she is jumped by a
car load of thugs who robbed her in her own
driveway middle of the afternoon, broad daylight in Elcorn brazen attack.
They steal her purse, they stole the envelope she had
from her bank, even took her engagement ring. They fled
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in a vehicle that did not have license plates.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Wait what yeah, no license no.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
License plates in the car. The police at the time said, well,
here's a car we're looking for, and then that trail
seemingly stopped. Not so fast. The Douglas County Sheriff's Department said,
we've heard some reports that there are gangs coming up
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from Texas targeting Omahawk As they think, all right, well,
no one's going to be looking for us around here,
and they've been staking out banks and watching people and
then just driving home when these unarmed civilians women suddenly
get home and they follow them home and they jump
them as soon as they get out of their car.
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And we think that there might be people coming in
and out of Texas, so they started looking for that
vehicle on license plate readers up and down the interstates
and highways coming out of Texas. They found the car
that still had the license plate on it. They get
to the border, they take the license plate off so
they get around undetected, and then they leave, go back
down to Houston or wherever, and they put the plate
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back on. We got a hit on the car, an
investigation goes underway, and now a year and a half later,
we've got one guy in custody. Another guy is still
in custody in Texas because he's got crimes he's got
to relate to or got to answer for down to Texas.
Twenty one year old guy has been extradited to Omaha
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from Houston, and then this nineteen year old is still
in Texas. So these guys were teenagers when they committed
these crimes a year and a half ago. And Douglas
County Sheriff Aaron Hansen said, we're still looking for two
additional suspects who jumped this woman in the car, and quote,
we want to make sure we're sending a message not
only to the innocent moms in Douglas County, that we're
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going to pursue these guys relentlessly until they're in custody.
We also want to send a message to those crime groups,
don't waste your time coming to Douglas County. Go to
Sarpy count All right, he didn't say that last part.
I'm just checking the sea. If Lucy's paying attention. Frequent
KFAB contributor, someone who's got decades of experience in law
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enforcement and our United States military tactical expert, Trevor Thrasher
joins us now on news radio eleven ten KFAB. Trevor,
We've talked about this before, but we're really seeing it
get ramped up now with this push where they're trying
to deputize or militarize or incentivize regular citizens like a
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thirty some year old mom up in Minnesota to go
out there and obstruct law enforcements, specifically ICE. What does
this do in terms of danger to ICE and to
the public when people start acting like this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, this kind of behavior has been encouraged by some politicians,
and what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We are losing We're losing our connection here with you, Trevor.
All right, it's okay now, now, yeah, go ahead and
say so politicians are encouraging this and then.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And what happens is it creates an increased danger for
everybody involved. So if ICE agents are trying to make
an arrest and protesters are approaching on them and adding
that stress level, all they're going to get is more
danger and people are going to make worse decisions because
of that. So what they're actually doing is increasing the danger,
as we saw in this case, to the people that
ICE are dealing with. They're actually causing more danger to
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the community than they are helping the community. So obviously,
for example.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's it's I mean, peaceful protest is part of what
makes this country great and doesn't make us like Venezuela,
where the your dictator can just put you in jail.
You know, peaceful protest is fine driving your car in
the path of an ICE operation and blocking the road
and then not getting out of the car when ICE
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is like, all right, lady, this is apparently what you
want to do today, get out of the car, and
then using that car to try and drive off with
an ICE official in the vicinity of her path. There's
some investigation going on on all that, but a lot
of people looked at this video Trevor, and they come
away with wildly different interpretations of it. What do you
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think about that instance up in Minneapolis the other day, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Think unfortunately people day are conditioned to do things from
a very tribalistic standpoint. If you look at the raw
facts of the incident, I mean, clearly, this woman was
disobeying orders and she's driving in a willfully reckless manner
with agents around her vehicle. This is just setting the
stage for something bad to happen. This is not an
unpredictable event. This was eventually going to happen. Incident similar
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to this have happened previously, and in fact, you just
had another one happen up in Portland. So she's doing
all this perfectly knowing that she's endangering herself, and from
when I saw on the video, you know her actions.
Could reasonably interpret it as attempting to run over an agent.
And that's it. You don't have to look at this
with twenty twenty hindsight or down to the fine details
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of what happened. You have to put yourself in the
shoes of that agent who fired the shots and understand
that human behavior, human reaction time is going to be
a big part of this. You can't He doesn't have
the option of going through things frame by frame, zooming in,
looking at multiple campra angles. The entire event was over
with in less than two seconds, and that's all he
had to respond to this threat.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now people say, well, this was They know she wasn't
a threat. She wasn't going to kill anyone. It's just
some mom, thirty something year old protesting mom up there,
and they should have known she wasn't a threat. How
many times do law enforcement end up being called out
to a situation and end up in a very precarious
situation from someone that some observers after the fact might
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look at and say, well that they should have known
that person wasn't a threat.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well that's a big mistake. And you're trying to have
the offer to get completely into somebody's mind and know
their whole history afterwards, which is an unreasonable take on it.
Officers are attacked and injured by people of every demographic,
including women, including women of this age, and you can
find video after a video of it on us Elderly
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people women attack all.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Losing the phone. We lost a little bit of that
phone connection, Trevor. We'll give a second to establish itself.
Are you still with us?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah? I'm here.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You can't use demographics to determine that's an irrational way
to do it. No.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And the other issue is is people look at this
and go, well, why didn't they just like you know,
follow her and pull her over and arrest her later?
Why did the guy have to shoot? And if you
had to shoot, why can't you just shoot out her
tires or something like that? Can you, as a tactical
expert in such things, speak to that? Please?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, first of all, they're prohibited by policy of shooting
out to tires. It's a really bad idea because it
won't stop the forward movement of the vehicle. I've chased
vehicles and pursuits that had only two tires working and
we're on rims. You can't shoot the engine block. That
won't stop it either. The only thing you can do
is shoot the driver, and even by doing that it
may not stop the cars forward movement, but if you
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disable the driver, at least stops them from being able
to steer the vehicle towards you. Again.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Trevor Thrasher is a tactical expert military law enforcement. If
people want to find you online, Trevor. How do they
do so?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, check out my Threatproof newsletter at threatproof dot substack
dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Threatproof dot substack dot com. Yes, sir, all right, Trevor.
Thank you very much. We'll be in touch and talk more. Unfortunately,
I think these situations are going to continue. We'll need
your expertise. Appreciate the time this morning, Have a good weekend.
Thank you Scott at kfab dot com and the Zonker's
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custom Woods Inbox email here from Richard says, it's just
sad that we took a tragedy talking about what happened
up in Minneapolis. It's just sad that we took a
tragedy and both sides politicized it. This is why we
will never be great. Everything is going to be political.
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How is this politicized? How has this been politicized by
the right? How's it been politicized by DHS? How has
it been politicized by the White House? How has it
been politicized by ice? Because anytime President Trump or anyone
in his cabinet administration says anything, people will say that
they're politicizing an issue because they're politicians.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This I can see how it's politicized by Jacob Frye,
and I can see how it's politicized by Tim Walls.
But candidly, you know, the facts are the facts, and
facts are stubborn. This is what happened. There's no denying
what happened. Now, if we can establish that we have
to follow laws or there are consequences, can we establish that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Apparently?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Now, apparently apparently we don't follow laws in this country,
at least some people do.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I do. I think you do.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
If a police officer comes up to me and says
I need your license, registration and proof of insurance, the
last thing I'm gonna do is turn my phone on
and argue with the guy, which is what happens all
the time. Okay, if I'm at a protest and I
don't like what Ice is doing, which is fine, You're
happy to not like that. But I use my car
to a impede the enforcement of a federal law that
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has been debated, amended, voted on, and then signed into
law by the President of the United States. If I
do that with my vehicle, that's against the law. Now,
I'm perfectly entitled to stand on the sidewalk and wave
my sign around and even say mean negative things to
the ICE agents. But I'm not allowed to use my
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car to get in the way or as is obvious
with this video, run over an ICE agent.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Right. And if you want to stay on political to me,
that's factual. You want to stand there in the rain
like Billy did at seventy second and Dodge. Yesterday, he
talked to KMTV three News Now and said, I'm gonna
stand out here with this sign. By the way, the
signs said Republicans in uniforms are armed and dangerous, threat
to life, limb and liberty. And the news put that
on last night and he said he was going to
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stand out there in the rain. Quote, I'll be out
here until this cardboard dissolves. AI says cardboard dissolves in
approximately two months. Several kfab listeners noted that he is
no longer out there today. It's a miracle that cardboard
is already dissolved. Amazing great points though, Jim. You can
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send your points in as well, scottkfab dot com. That's
how you reach us via the Zonker's custom what's inbox?
But you got people at their gym as political, well,
they said everything is, but they say we're at war
with Venezuela. We're not at war with Your definition of
war does not comport with the facts. You know that
there are approximately eight hundred and sixty three people detained
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as political prisoners by that dictator that we've removed from
power in Venezuela. They're now being released from prison. If
you turn on the news, you'll see people out there
anxiously and happily finding family members, loved ones who are
finally getting out of political prison and put there by Maduro.
This started happening the other day. President Trump said, we're
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getting great cooperation from officials in Venezuela. And this is
still something that people are all sour about. Oh, it
would be at war with Venezuela over oil. We're not
at war with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Well, it's like we saw yesterday on Capitol Hill, five
Senate Republicans jumped over to vote with Democrats on a
resolution to keep the president from doing his job.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
None of them with Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Of them were from Nebraska, one of them was from Missouri.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
They just they say, we can't have you do that.
What can't have you do?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
What this was?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
This is not an act of war? Was this was
enforcement of laws. Seventeen House Republicans, by the way, voted
with Democrats to try and subsidize Obamacare. Again, none of
them were Don Bacon. In case you're wondering, there's a
lot of holiday stuff still kind of hanging up around
the hallways here at news Radio eleven ten Kfavy. Generally,
as you get into the second week of January, I
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think it's probably okay to take that stuff down. Could
you reach out to State Centaer Mikayla Kavanaugh and have
her go through the hallways and just start tearing stuff
off of our walls?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know, actually I did, did you?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah? I did. She busy, she had her hands full,
she was busy.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
She was looking for some new stuff to filibuster about,
and I think she'd come up with it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So, yeah, this legislative session, Jim, is going to be fun.
Kathleen cal th reinstituted the stay out of the Girl's
Bathroom guy bills, which is, as you know, nothing's more
controversial in our day and age than asking boys not
to go in the girl's bathroom, locker rooms and places
like that. So that's going to be a fun filibuster. Yeah,
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she probably will attempt to do it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Maybe we'll get enough Republicans to say, we have only
sixty days. We don't have time for this, so we'll
end the filibuster. In the ninety day session two years ago,
they didn't have that. She has her constituency of people.
I don't understand it, but she has them, and this
is her last session. So she's going to go on
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a scorched earth policy. And this is her because she's
term limited. She can't run again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
You were hanging out with state officials last night. Are
they going to put her in the corn Husker clank
for taking She tell everyone what she did and whatever
one's matter about and what could happen.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But she went through the hallway of the Capitol and
started tearing things down off the wall. These were pieces
of artwork that were hung as part of the two
hundred fifty year Celebration of America, and it was a
depiction of some Nebraskans who have been inte gold in
the development of our country over two hundred and fifty years.
Some cases, I believe there were some women, some very
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important women whose picture and story were on the walls.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I don't know who let that happen? But okay, Mikayla.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mikayla said, well, wait a minute, we can't hang things
on the wall, so I'm just doing my civic duty
by pulling them down. Well, if Jim Rose or Scott
Vorhees or Lucy Chapman walk into the State Capitol and
start yanking things down off the wall, we get arrested.
And I don't know what exempts Senator Mikayla Kavanaugh from
getting locked up over this, but maybe not. She might
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be cited. Now, is this grounds for expulsion from the
unicamer It would be good for getting business done, But
the answer is probably not. They're not going to go
through that process of bouncing Mikayla Kavanaugh out of the
unicameral for this.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
But some sort of citation by the state patrol would
be good. Some sort of.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Least admonishment from the rest of the unicameral would be
good because you just can't be doing that. Look, if
she's your state senator, you either voted for her or
you didn't. She's yours and you can live with the
emotional outbursts, the unhinged behavior, the remarkably you know, thoughtless
(38:21):
things that she will say from time to time.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's her.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's the nature of an elected body of legislators. They
are picked by their people, and it doesn't matter what
the rest of us think, because she is theirs. And
if you live anywhere else in the state of Nebraska,
you may be deeply embarrassed by her. You may think
that she's a scourge upon the state of Nebraska, which
she may very well be. But that's that's too bad,
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because she belongs to her people, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
You know, she is the one who did the filibuster
a couple of years ago, who was saying like, well,
we love trans people. Trans people belong here, we love
trans people, and did that for a couple of years.
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Speaker 6 (39:13):
Good morning, Kfab family. This message is for Michayla Kavanall.
We need wall pictures. We love wall pictures. Wall pictures
belong here. We need wall pictures. We love wall pictures,
wall pictures belong heird.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
That goes on for another two and a half minutes.
It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Jeez. I don't know why Gary
left you people, I really really don't. So we got
that going on. And you know that this was not
something where she just showed up and said, well, these
wall pictures on there, they're not supposed to be there.
You're not allowed to hang stuff up. This was highly
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orchestrated because of where these images of America's greatness over
two hundred and fifty years came from. Do you know
whose response for kind of orchestrating the putting them there?
Praguer you? Conservative Dennis Prager and his kind of Hillsdale
like think tank Praguer you. And there were people who
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were before the legislative session started posting online. I see
one of them here online from a woman named Kay said,
heads up, these cardboard posters now adorn the halls of
the Nebraska Capital, sent by President Trump to Governor Pillen
for children to read and scan. This is exceptionally serious, folks.
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Praguer you is recognized as a propaganda and Christian nationalist
organization trying to read what write history and it goes on, Wow,
a Christian, a patriotic and Christian organization hanging up signs
in the Nebraska state capital. How did they ever allow
such a thing to happen to celebrate the founding of
our nation by largely Christian people. But be that as
(40:59):
it may, Mikayla Kavanaugh was the one state senator from
Omaha took it upon herself to go and do that.
Five Republicans, you said earlier, Jim sided with all the
Democrats in the Senate yesterday and said, look, we just
want to remind the President you can't declare war with
a congressional authority. We're not at war with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Well, this is what got them, And you know, Rand
Paul has been sort of a thorn and Trump's side
for ever since Trump came down the escalator. Susan Colline off,
Lisa Murkowski, two other Republicans in Alaska, not Republicans, Yeah,
Tim Young, the Senator from Indiana, and Josh Holly, the
Senator from Missouri, jump in and they both said we
(41:38):
were fine with the president until he just sort of
flippantly suggested boots on the ground. And if the President
of the United States says boots on the ground, we
need to step up and act so as we know,
we've talked about this, and anybody who's been awake for
the last ten years knows this president says things thoughtlessly.
He will just pop off and say things that he
(41:58):
probably doesn't mean, but he just popped into his head
and he says them. And that was probably the case
with boots on the ground. Boots on the ground is
different from law enforcement activity.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I want to push back a little bit on what
you did. So that's what they said yesterday I asked
about it. I don't think that President Trump, when he
talks about the possibility all like, hey, it can't rule
out boots on the ground of Venezuela. That's not something
that just pops into his head and he says thoughtlessly.
This is a long standing tradition by this president where
you don't tell your enemies what you will or won't do. Sure,
(42:31):
you got to tell your enemies, Hey, anything's possible. It's
up to you to decide what we're going to do here.
I don't think that was a thoughtless and careless comment
by the president at all.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, the deft way to handle that, Scott is to
not say anything. You don't answer that question with specifics
regardless of whether your intent is to make sure they're
confused or not. This is the problem with this president.
Not saying anything is not Trump's strong suit exactly. This
is the thing with this president. This is what you
get with him. Now, you get a whole bunch of
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other great stuff that's working out like Trump's terrorists, for example,
are working out great.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You get the border shut off like he's promised on
day one, and it pretty much happened on day one.
You're getting all of these bad guys rounded up and
either detained or sent back home to wherever. But you're
also getting somebody who says whatever the hell he wants
and he doesn't care what impact it has. Same thing
when he goes on truth social he says things that, hey,
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you're the president. When the president says that, that's different
from some shoe clerk in Fremont, Nebraska saying it. And
that's where his enemies and that's where his political detractors live.
They use his words against him to charge up some
sort of political frenzy, whether it's in the state of Minnesota, Portland, Oregon,
or anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
He ain't changing, Okay, he's going to be president for
pretty much three more years.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I was thinking about this this week, how a lot
of people thought, perhaps in the hours after the president
was given a speech in Pennsylvania and a gunman nearly
took his life and stroke a miracle, and people thought,
you know, maybe this will kind of set things up
for a kinder, gentler, more thoughtful, someone who's like, wow,
(44:18):
I the lights almost went out there a moment ago,
and I've been given a new lease on life. And
maybe this will be a Donald Trump that we've never
seen before, someone who's a bit more gracious and uh,
a little more humble, a little more humble. How long
did that last? And didn't last long?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I mean, he talked about it at his convention that
this has had a profound effect on me, but then
it was over, and it's over now. And if you
listen to him now, you did get the impression that
there was nothing in that incident that affected him.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I think it put a clock in his head. He
knows the midterms might not work out well for the
Republican Party. I think if they were held today, I
don't know that a single Republican would be re elected.
If you listen to the across the country. Yeah, I
know it's like exaggeration, but he knows if we're gonna
get anything done, we have this year to get it done. Sure,
I got the people or Trump maybe gonna vote my
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people out of office. Sure, some of my Republicans are
leaving me on various things, and there are a lot
of people out there that want me dead. So I've
got to move. I gotta go. No, I like eight things.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, and I appreciate that. I don't think there's ever
been a harder working president than this guy. He never
takes a vacation, Joe Biden. He never takes a vacation.
He's constantly got things going. He's got ten balls in
the air. And not too any presidents do that because
they just want to play the long game, get along,
do something here and there that says that their legacy
(45:42):
will be okay with historians not thinking that. Historians really
don't care what a Republican gets done. They can cure cancer,
they could end every war and ensure free sex for
everybody and they would still be fine.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
But the truth is, I think that is in short
or not you're gonna get it, is one thing you
don't always have to pay.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So he but he's thinking, you know, I only have
so much time here, and when I'm gone, they're gonna
tear everything I did down, unless my vice president becomes president.
They're gonna tear all my presidential orders down, all of
my proclamations down, all of my executive orders down. They're
gonna peel the gold off the Oval Office and put
whatever they want in there.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Now that Jim is something I am not gonna push
back on. From Nebraska Game in Parks. It is Greg
Wagner here on Nebraska This Morning News. Now, listen, Greg,
don't bring in your politics in here. We've been here it.
We've been hearing all day about how you say ice
is dangerous. And then Craig Evans told me that you're
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talking about that talking about the lake's ice fishing. Yes, okay, God,
Greig Wagner talking ice. Thought you were bringing your politics
in there, Craig, Yeah, Do people honestly think, like, hey,
I know it was sixty the other day, Maybe I'll
get in some ice fishing.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
You know, I live off Flanning in Lake and I've
seen people the last week or so on splotches of
ice fishing, and I'm like people, people know, or I've
seen people casting from that ice into open water. Weakest
ice in the lake is right, there no safe ice
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for ice fishing.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We call animals dumb.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I mean, there's no animals on the ice.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
What about if you can stand there on the bank
or some dock or something like that, find some open
water which is easy to find. How is fishing right? Now?
Here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 7 (47:38):
We've had ketches of crappie, catfish and trout where we
have them stuck by people bank fishing, casting into splotches
of the open water and using minnows where you can
use them, or they're using waxworms, which is an ice
fishing bait, kind of like meal worms. Yeah, and you know,
catch an occasional fish here and there. Unbelievable well for January,
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Rosie January in Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, it's certainly shortening up our winter to have and
then back in the fifties early next week.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Basketball is fifteen and people are catching fish.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
What's going on? If global warming is responsible for all
of this? The weather Husker basketball team, I'm all for it.
I'm gonna start breaking some styrofoam up hunting obviously when
you have snow and you have colder temperatures, that lends
itself better to certain tests hunting. So when we have
these conditions, I've been out, you.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
Know, we have a late season firearm deer hunting season
going for dose. Basically it's been tough. You know, when
you got a fur coat on, you don't need to
eat as often when the weather's warm, and you know,
it's all about food this time of year to try
to find those dough groups, and it's been tough. And
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you know, deer move the last few minutes of light,
or they're moving at night when it's colder, and so
that's been a little tough, little tough too for the
uppling ambered hunters, and a little tough even for some
of our Canada goose hunters that are out there in
the field as well. Ye, with mild temperatures in times,
not much wind.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
And not a bad weekend weatherwise, I mean it's not
sixty it's going to be you know, mid to upper
thirties through the weekend. What's going on in our state parks.
Speaker 7 (49:17):
Well on the state parks end, it's the other end
of things, So things are very good there.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Parks are all open.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
We had a New Year's Day kind of a big
hike thing mornings and afternoons. Tremendous numbers of people came
out because we had good weather. But our grounds are
all open. Our indoor facilities if things are a little
too chilly for you, a lot of those at Mahoney
State Park and also a neat facility. We have indoors
at Shram Education Center. It's a naturalist facility. So the parks,
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we're loving it because we're getting a lot of sights.
Here's a lot of people wildlife watching, got a lot
of swans in the area of bald eagles.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
It's really cool for the parks. And finally on the
outdoor bulletin board, well.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
We think spring and we're gonna start selling spring wild
turkey hunting permits Monday at one pm Central Time. There
is a non resident quota on them of ten thousand.
Those ten thousand spring turkey permits will go in less
than four hours. Go online, tell your friends and family
members that their non residents get on the stick with that.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Just walked down Underwood and looked for the wild turkeys
crossing Pete Rickett's
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yard and Listen to Greg Wagner on this not jimro
Nebraska Game of Parks Greg, Happy New Years, hear you, guys,
Great to have you with us. Thank you so much
for being up on a Friday morning here on Nebraska's
morning news. My name is Scott Voorhees. I'm here with
Lucy Chapman and Craig Evans. Jim Rose is here too.
Scott at kfab dot com is open for you. That's
the Zonkers custom woods inbox. Jim has got bags under
his eyes. You could put groceries in because I imagine
(00:23):
you were up late watching now. The timeline is Jim
Rose's daughter went to ole Miss. Yesterday on the radio,
Jim Rose said, if ole Miss wins the national Championship,
I will sing the old Miss Alma mater right here
on the radio. I was looking forward to for a
couple of reasons. One, I like that quarterback for that team.
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And I like the fact that this guy who's kind
of been serving as their head coach was Lane Kiffin's
Tody there for assistant I should say coordinator for several
months and then suddenly it's like, hey, you ever head
coached before? No, all right, you are now, And he
could lead his team towards the national championship. Well. In
the last seconds of last night's game, all of that
(01:07):
came crashing down as the Hurricanes prevailed. The running ReBs
didn't get it done, and Jim Rose looks like he
stayed up and watched the entire Dad, I watched the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I was pretty upset, and then I had to go
out and take a walk around the block, you know,
because I was all mad. But yeah, after Trinidad Chambliss
hit the go ahead touchdown pass, I knew there was
too much time left and I'm thinking, okay, we either
need a quick strike by Miami to get you know,
all missed the ball back with three minutes to go
or two and a half minutes to go, or they're
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going to have to get a stop and they couldn't
get a stop. But you know, Miami really dominated the game.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It was it was not that close. If you look
at the statistics of the game. Miami had a double
the amount of time of possession, They dropped four interceptions,
they missed a field goal. So he as much, which
is you know, hotty Toddy. We were all hoping for
a miracle, and you know, I thought they had a
shot there after they won that that got that last
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touchdown and then hit the two point conversion. I knew
there was just a little bit too much time left.
I figured Miami would get a field goal and go
to overtime. But too bad for the Revs. They lost it.
It was a wild last month and a half of
the year for them. With Lane Kiffin leaving taking half
the staff, Pete Golden got the job as the defensive coordinator,
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elevated a head coach trying to figure out which assistants
wanted to stay and which ones wanted to go because
Kiffin was putting a lot of pressure on the assistance
to leave.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And now we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
How many of the Rebels will stick around, just like
any other team now in the playoffs. After tonight, it'll
be the same deal with Oregon and Indiana. Which players
are going to get plucked away by other programs in
the transfer portal now that the season is over. But
if you're an old miss fan, and I don't know
how many of them around here, there aren't a lot
of Mississippi people.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't think there probably are, but I think there
are a lot of Miami detractors.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, a lot of people hate Miami. That's the camp
in which I fall. I don't know who they're playing.
But whoever they're playing, I love them because I hate
Miami except Texas. But yeah, yeah, Texas is in that group.
But I don't know how many Ole Miss fans are
around here, but this was This was the best football
they've played in sixty some years. They were really good
back in the nineteen sixties under a coach named Johnny Vott.
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They probably were the national champion in nineteen sixty one.
But the writers screwed them because of the race riots
down there, because they were trying to, you know, put
a kid in a black kid into Ole Miss, and
we had all sorts of really dreadful activities as associated
with that, and the Eastern writers really screwed Ole Miss
and kept them out in the national chancel.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's how it goes in Trump's America. It can I
heard some protesters and that's what they said. Yeah, so,
but you know, we're proud of them. I'm going to
try to get down there next year.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I love going to ball games down there because the grove,
that pregame experience is just like any other in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, your daughter went there, and so therefore you got
an affinity to the school. My daughter to k state,
and I'm only slightly coming around to the idea that
I can't hate the Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, well, and it's closer for you. It's a lot
easier to get down there than it was for us.
You know, it's seven plus hours driving to Oxford from Omaha.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I got to go through Arkansas then, and then when
you get there, you're in Oxford.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah. Well that's a pretty cool little town. Now you
just go easy, you go easy on Oxford. It's William
Faulkner's down there. It's a very cultural epicenter. Yet he's
not anymore, but he was. There's a big shrine to
you know, there's a lot of music originated, a lot
of great jazz originated down there. And Shepherd Smith, the
Fox News anchors from Ole Miss. Yep, he went to
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Ole Miss. Yeah, a couple other people. Yes, he's got
pretty eyes. And they have the speed limit of eighteen
around the campus. That's right, eighteen is the campus speed limit. Yeah,
that's because that's Archie Manning's number.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, all right. We had a few protests yesterday. When
I say a few, very few protest protest is a
seventy second at Dodge, I counted six on the news.
That's all it takes. The news will go out there
and go protest in Omaha today after ICE agents shot
a woman in Minneapolis, and here's like six people, one
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guy with a megaphone shouting at cars. Now this is
as it's pouring rain. People of course got their radio
turned up to KFAB. They can't hear this guy yelling
at them with the megaphone. I especially liked it when
KMTV three News Now showed one of the signs that
says Republicans in uniforms are armed and dangerous threat to life,
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limb and liberty. Thanks Channel three good stuff. Well that's
what the sign said. The story said, despite cold rain
and dropping temperatures, protesters who could have all driven there
together in the same suv, gathered at seventy second a
Dodge to demand justice after ICE shot and killed a
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woman who was obstructing ICE operations and would knock get
out of the car as instructed to do, and then
tried to gun her car in the vicinity of where
an ICE officer was standing. And there's an investigation in
all of that. But they were out there holding signs
saying Republicans in uniform are armed and dangerous, and one
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of the demonstrators holding a cardboard sign said, I'll stand
out here. I'll be out here until this cardboard dissolved.
I looked it up. It takes about two months sure
or cardboard to dissolve to completely dissolve in water. So
you can look forward to seeing Billy out there at
seventy second dodge if I take him at his word,
and why wouldn't I for the better part of the
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next two months. That puts us in early March the
weather should be a little better.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But well, you know, next week, the weather's actually looking
pretty favorable for Billy, you know, Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
If you were to go through the.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Crowd of people protesting, and we had protests in Portland, Oregon,
had them in the Twin Cities, had them all over Minnesota,
actually not all over Minnesota, because a lot of Minnesotas
think this is really really bad stuff, these protests and
these these these agitators and these anti ice people. A
lot of Minnesotas all over the state of Minnesota are
just thoroughly disgusted with the way their leadership is behaving.
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If you were to go through the crowd and ask them,
do you know what you're protesting. Do you have a
functioning knowledge of all of this? Well, then that's it
was going to be. Let me get back to you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh sure, you know we have Hitler who sent his
gestapo out there to murder young mothers. Exactly. The Vice
President spoke about that young mother yesterday. That didn't calm
down anyone who is very, very upset all the time
with the Trump administration. I'll tell you what Vice President
Advance aid in just a moment. First though, let's get
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to sports brief.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Kayfby Husker Info strong man Sean Callahan at six forty seven.
He'll update us on who coming in and who's going out.
Kenneth Williams was a big surprise. They made a big
deal out of him mid season. Hey, this is the
guy you know, we want so much for that. And
like I said, Anthony Jones.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Why do we need to have Sewn on here? We
already got the assessment from you.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But because Sewn actually takes the emotion out of it.
And then Jones, the guy that a guy that has
five schools in four years, so five years, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
How many schools are there, he's only been to five.
He's only been to five statistically zero surrounding error. All right,
thank you very much, Jim Rose. Now to someone who
is panhandling in the inboxed via an all staff email.
It's Lucy Chapman. Lucy Well, she just emailed everyone on
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staff and said, does anyone have a calendar I can
use to hang in the traffic? You're what you're you're
begging our co workers to buy you a calendar. I'll
buy you account.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We're still sign here saying I can't stand here.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I you know I gave you. I lovingly gave to
you the men of KFAB twenty twenty six calendar and
uh promptly wondering what happened to it?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, it got thrown away. You know those little sohos,
those little fireplaces that you can put on your deck
and either smoke free or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That is infuriating. Terry Lahey was January. I think he
went up first this winter. We're going to talk in
an hour from now with the frequent eleven to ten
KFAB contributor Law enforcement military background tactical expert Trevor Thrasher
will be our guest to answer questions like, you know,
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why didn't they just shoot out or tires you know what,
And also the mobilization of protesters around the country and
how dangerous that is in a situation where law enforcement's
doing their work and some woman decides non not on
my watch, and I'm just gonna try and obstruct them,
including blocking the road with my car. About that woman
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in Minneapolis, Vice President jd Vance addressed the media yesterday,
called that woman brainwashed, said I can believe that her
death is a tragedy, while also recognizing that it's a
tragedy of her own making and a tragedy of the
far left, who has marshaled an entire movement, a lunatic
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fringe against our law enforcement officers. What young mother shows
up and decides they're gonna throw their car in front
of ice officers enforcing legitimate law. You've got to be
a little brainwashed to get to that point. Now, the argument,
and it's a legitimate argument, but you never hear the
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other one. The legitimate argument is, well, why did the
officer have to shoot? Was his life really in danger?
Of course, the other side of that argument is why
couldn't she have stopped the car and gotten out? When
law enforcement repeatedly asked her to do so, and you
had a guy standing in front of her car, So
no one ever asked that question she was trained, But
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well she was. He's trained.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She's an anti ICE protester. She was trained how to resist,
how to use your car as a weapon, what to
do if you encounter ICE agents. This woman was trained
to do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All of this. She's a warrior. And look, I don't
have any problem with the investigation as to whether this
was justified. But as I said yesterday loudly and repeatedly,
these people who are, to Jim's point, training these protesters
to act like this are going to get more people arrested, injured,
and potentially killed if they don't tell them. Look, if
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cops are telling you to get out of the car
or show your hands or whatever, you got to do that.
So Vice President Advanced yesterday was asked straight up, do
you really believe that she tried to run over this
ICE agent and hurt the guy.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Look, I don't know what it's in a person's heart
or in a person's head, and obviously we're not going
to get the the chance to ask this woman what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
What I am certain of is that she violated the law.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
What I'm certain of is that that officer had every
reason to think that he was under very serious threat
for injury or.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
In fact, his life.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
What I'm certain of is that she accelerated in a
way where she ran into the guy. I don't know
what was in her heart and what was in her head,
but I know that she violated the law, and I
know that officer was acting in self defense. And that's
it raised an interesting point though. Look, if people want
to say that we should have a legitimate debate about,
you know, what was she really doing?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Was she panicking when she drove into this officer or
was she actually trying to ram him. That's a reasonable conversation.
What's not reasonable is for so many of you to
plaster all over the media that this was an innocent
woman and that the ice agent committed murder, which is
what many of you have said explicitly and some of
you have said implicitly.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's what I have an objection to.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
The idea that this was not justified is absurd, and
I think everybody knows it in their heart.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yet that is the Vice President of the United States
of My America, jd Vance right there.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
This is the tragedy aside from a dead person. And
by the way, this ICE agent had been attacked before,
the one that fired the shot had been attacked by
protesters before, dragged with a car, dragged by a car.
The tragedy is where's the news media on this, Scott?
The news media journalism really is dead. We for two
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hundred and fifty years have had opposite views of political issues,
opposite views of how things happen and what worked out.
You had one side see in one thing and the
other side see in the other. And the referee was
the news media. Okay, you think this, you think that
here's what really happened. Okay, we have a blindfold on.
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We're just reporting the facts that has not happened in
this incident.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He's right.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
We've had members of the news media accused this ICE
agent of murdering this woman. Well, murder is a crime
that is an actual crime that should be investigated and
then brought to a trial and then in front of
a jury decide whether it's actually true. But the news
media has already painted this ICE agent as a murderer.
And this woman who was killed, who is an ICE
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anti ICE trained warrior by organized and financed protest organizations
is some sort of victim. She's no victim. She was
there impeding law enforcement. And there is no gray area
on the law. You are absolutely welcome to peacefully protest
anything you want, but you can't impede law enforcement. And
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this was a legitimate law enforcement act. I don't know
why that is so confusing to so many people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I hate that she got shot. The way that should
have worked out was all right, man, you got to
get out of the car. Well, I'm gonna leave my car.
That's fine, we'll move your car. We'll do this, but
you're under arrest for And then she gets led away
in handcuffs and everyone says she's great, and they post
her bail and she goes and she gets to tell
everyone for the rest of her life, Hey, you see
me on the news. That's how that should have gone exactly,
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but due to her actions, it did not go that way.
And to the Vice President's point, there's an investigation into
all this. It's a legitimate question to ask, as is
the other one. Why did she have to act the
way that she did. And to your point, Jim about
people referring to it as murder, it's laughable to me.
Now that you've got the mayor in Minneapolis and the
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governor of Minnesota both referring to the ICE agent as
a murderer in this situation as murder, and then they
turn around and wonder why the FBI took the investigation
into it away from the state of Minnesota, because your
top officials have already decided this man's guilt and that's
not how it works. And they have the audacity to
act surprised about Governor walltas is like, Hey, how come
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the FBI is doing this because you called the guy
a murderer?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You do is they have some sort of organization up
there that is, you know, the Minnesota state Law enforcement
or law criminal behavior agency of some kind. And they said,
why is it that they aren't conducting this investigation? Well,
why is it that they haven't been out there rounding
up these protesters who are breaking the law. Okay, these
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protesters are allowed to break the law, And why is
it that this the FBI has taken over this investigation
for that reason what you said about what the mayor
of Minneapolis and the governor of Minnesota said, but also
this your record of enforcing the laws up here, federal, state, local,
and otherwise is deplorable.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
He has called out the National Guard to I don't
know to what to fight ICE on behalf of the
pro Well, what are they gonna do? It's a tenuous
situation there. We had to ICE agents shoot a couple
of people in Portland. I'll give you a few quick
details on that. Federal ICE agent shot a man and
a woman. The city council president says these people are
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Portland residents. The Department of Homeland Security says they are
illegal immigrant trend arag what Venezuelan gang members. I suppose
both could be true. But of course protests are going
up there because ICE agents could shoot penny Wise from
it and there would still be people out there protesting. Well,
(17:16):
I don't know why. ICE just couldn't shoot the balloon
out of his hand. They didn't have to shoot him.
You know, that's where we are in this country. It
only happens in the movies. Yeah, I know. Thanks for
being with us as we navigate all of this. Someone
do me a favor and wake my son up. He's
got to go to school. Hey, let's go. Hey, get up.
Quit being such a burden on your poor mother. Go
(17:37):
to school there that ought to handle that Father of
the Year Scott for he's here with you.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Turn on your trim lights. You can do that from
your phone. Yes, start blinking them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, And those are relatively close to where see. His
head is on his pillow. His window is open enough
that that light would come into the room. But you
don't understand he's a sixteen year old boy. I could
have strobe lights going off with his eyes opened by
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use of like toothpicks, and he's still like there'd be
nothing there. You'd wave your hand in front of his
open eyes and you'd realize he's asleep with his eyes open.
He's like a horse. It's weird. So, speaking of parenting,
we've got a local mother and her friend who had
been sighted by Omaha police. Did you guys see the
story the other day? It was a couple of days
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ago where Omaha Police Department put out a picture of
a little girl and really sadly scant details about this girl,
like she's somewhere between We figure she's somewhere between three
and six, and she only can tell us her first name.
This girl, she doesn't know her last name, she doesn't
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know her address, can't find her way back to her house.
She's just hanging out on a street corner in northeast Omaha.
Doesn't know how old she is, so they estimated her
age between three and six. If she's three, she'd probably
tell you she's three. If she's six, she ought to
be able to tell you she's six, and her mom's
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name and her last name, and her address and what.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
They didn't graduate kindergarten without that stuff. I remember that
we had to know that stuff before they let us, like, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
One hundred percent true. It took me three years, but
I got out. And I tell you what, if you
spend three years in kindergarten, by the time you're finally
out of kindergarten, no one can beat you in dodgeball.
It worked out in my favor, and I got a
bad case of the dumbs, But no one could beat
me on the blacktop. So they eventually they put her
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picture out on media and social media. Someone says, I
think I know that kid. They call the police. Police
go over to the house. Mom said she fell asleep
at four am and didn't wake up till five pm.
She assumed that her daughter was with her friend. Police
go talk to the friend friend doesn't know stuff from
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page five and has outstanding warrants. So mom's boyfriend's been
taken into custody and the mother has been cited for
child neglect. Thankfully, girl's okay, relatively speaking. At some point
she's back in this situation in her home. I you know,
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it's I still think it's the holiday season, so I'll
charitably say, I hope this mother takes advantage of the
second chance you will be given to be there for
her daughter. I don't know where the girl's dad is.
Perhaps they could rouse him and say, hey, someone might
want to take care of your kid, because you can't
just be out wandering the streets at the age of whatever.
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Turns out she's four and she's I don't know who's
got her in custody right now, maybe family members. But
so that sad update to that story. Again, Thankfully, the
girl's okay. Remember the story, Geez. A year and a
half ago, lady goes to a bank, goes home in
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Elcorn where she gets jumped by a car load of
thugs broad daylight, middle of the afternoon, some weekday afternoon.
They thought, well, I think she was followed from the bank.
We had That was August of twenty twenty four. We
have an update on that story. I'll have it for
you next after traffic, weather and a news update. Scott Vorhees,
Lucy Chapman is shaking her head at me. Don't hurt
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your neck, but if you do, we have lots of
chiropractors on standby, including several listeners who would be happy
to rub your neck for you. Really sure?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And why is that?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because there are messuses in training, and it's kind of
like when you go to the Bonner School of Hairstyling
and you got someone who's learning to cut hair cut
your hair for a few bucks. You know, it's the
same thing. We could let these several steal thumbed massuses
in training who listen to this radio station rub your neck.
I'll put up the few bucks and we could get
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that done for you.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Copy that. I'll make a note of it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Who wants to rub Lucy? Email rub Lucy. Let's calm
down here, Well why are you emailing he wants to
rub Lucy? It's legitimate, it's therapy. It's Jim Rose, Creig
Evans here, I'm Scott Vorhees. What this is? News Radio
eleven ten kfab August twenty twenty four, lady goes to
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the bank, drives home. As soon as she gets home
to her home in Elkhorn, she is jumped by a
car load of thugs who robbed her in her own
driveway middle of the afternoon, broad daylight in Elcorn brazen attack.
They steal her purse, they stole the envelope she had
from her bank, even took her engagement ring. They fled
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in a vehicle that did not have license plates.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Wait what yeah, no license no.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
License plates in the car. The police at the time said, well,
here's a car we're looking for, and then that trail
seemingly stopped. Not so fast. The Douglas County Sheriff's Department said,
we've heard some reports that there are gangs coming up
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from Texas targeting Omahawk As they think, all right, well,
no one's going to be looking for us around here,
and they've been staking out banks and watching people and
then just driving home when these unarmed civilians women suddenly
get home and they follow them home and they jump
them as soon as they get out of their car.
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And we think that there might be people coming in
and out of Texas, so they started looking for that
vehicle on license plate readers up and down the interstates
and highways coming out of Texas. They found the car
that still had the license plate on it. They get
to the border, they take the license plate off so
they get around undetected, and then they leave, go back
down to Houston or wherever, and they put the plate
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back on. We got a hit on the car, an
investigation goes underway, and now a year and a half later,
we've got one guy in custody. Another guy is still
in custody in Texas because he's got crimes he's got
to relate to or got to answer for down to Texas.
Twenty one year old guy has been extradited to Omaha
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from Houston, and then this nineteen year old is still
in Texas. So these guys were teenagers when they committed
these crimes a year and a half ago. And Douglas
County Sheriff Aaron Hansen said, we're still looking for two
additional suspects who jumped this woman in the car, and quote,
we want to make sure we're sending a message not
only to the innocent moms in Douglas County, that we're
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going to pursue these guys relentlessly until they're in custody.
We also want to send a message to those crime groups,
don't waste your time coming to Douglas County. Go to
Sarpy count All right, he didn't say that last part.
I'm just checking the sea. If Lucy's paying attention. Frequent
KFAB contributor, someone who's got decades of experience in law
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enforcement and our United States military tactical expert, Trevor Thrasher
joins us now on news radio eleven ten KFAB. Trevor,
We've talked about this before, but we're really seeing it
get ramped up now with this push where they're trying
to deputize or militarize or incentivize regular citizens like a
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thirty some year old mom up in Minnesota to go
out there and obstruct law enforcements, specifically ICE. What does
this do in terms of danger to ICE and to
the public when people start acting like this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, this kind of behavior has been encouraged by some politicians,
and what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We are losing We're losing our connection here with you, Trevor.
All right, it's okay now, now, yeah, go ahead and
say so politicians are encouraging this and then.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And what happens is it creates an increased danger for
everybody involved. So if ICE agents are trying to make
an arrest and protesters are approaching on them and adding
that stress level, all they're going to get is more
danger and people are going to make worse decisions because
of that. So what they're actually doing is increasing the danger,
as we saw in this case, to the people that
ICE are dealing with. They're actually causing more danger to
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the community than they are helping the community. So obviously,
for example.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It's it's I mean, peaceful protest is part of what
makes this country great and doesn't make us like Venezuela,
where the your dictator can just put you in jail.
You know, peaceful protest is fine driving your car in
the path of an ICE operation and blocking the road
and then not getting out of the car when ICE
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is like, all right, lady, this is apparently what you
want to do today, get out of the car, and
then using that car to try and drive off with
an ICE official in the vicinity of her path. There's
some investigation going on on all that, but a lot
of people looked at this video Trevor, and they come
away with wildly different interpretations of it. What do you
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think about that instance up in Minneapolis the other day, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Think unfortunately people day are conditioned to do things from
a very tribalistic standpoint. If you look at the raw
facts of the incident, I mean, clearly, this woman was
disobeying orders and she's driving in a willfully reckless manner
with agents around her vehicle. This is just setting the
stage for something bad to happen. This is not an
unpredictable event. This was eventually going to happen. Incident similar
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to this have happened previously, and in fact, you just
had another one happen up in Portland. So she's doing
all this perfectly knowing that she's endangering herself, and from
when I saw on the video, you know her actions.
Could reasonably interpret it as attempting to run over an agent.
And that's it. You don't have to look at this
with twenty twenty hindsight or down to the fine details
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of what happened. You have to put yourself in the
shoes of that agent who fired the shots and understand
that human behavior, human reaction time is going to be
a big part of this. You can't He doesn't have
the option of going through things frame by frame, zooming in,
looking at multiple campra angles. The entire event was over
with in less than two seconds, and that's all he
had to respond to this threat.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now people say, well, this was They know she wasn't
a threat. She wasn't going to kill anyone. It's just
some mom, thirty something year old protesting mom up there,
and they should have known she wasn't a threat. How
many times do law enforcement end up being called out
to a situation and end up in a very precarious
situation from someone that some observers after the fact might
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look at and say, well that they should have known
that person wasn't a threat.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well that's a big mistake. And you're trying to have
the offer to get completely into somebody's mind and know
their whole history afterwards, which is an unreasonable take on it.
Officers are attacked and injured by people of every demographic,
including women, including women of this age, and you can
find video after a video of it on us Elderly
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people women attack all.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Losing the phone. We lost a little bit of that
phone connection, Trevor. We'll give a second to establish itself.
Are you still with us?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah? I'm here.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You can't use demographics to determine that's an irrational way
to do it. No.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And the other issue is is people look at this
and go, well, why didn't they just like you know,
follow her and pull her over and arrest her later?
Why did the guy have to shoot? And if you
had to shoot, why can't you just shoot out her
tires or something like that? Can you, as a tactical
expert in such things, speak to that? Please?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, first of all, they're prohibited by policy of shooting
out to tires. It's a really bad idea because it
won't stop the forward movement of the vehicle. I've chased
vehicles and pursuits that had only two tires working and
we're on rims. You can't shoot the engine block. That
won't stop it either. The only thing you can do
is shoot the driver, and even by doing that it
may not stop the cars forward movement, but if you
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disable the driver, at least stops them from being able
to steer the vehicle towards you. Again.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Trevor Thrasher is a tactical expert military law enforcement. If
people want to find you online, Trevor. How do they
do so?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, check out my Threatproof newsletter at threatproof dot substack
dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Threatproof dot substack dot com. Yes, sir, all right, Trevor.
Thank you very much. We'll be in touch and talk more. Unfortunately,
I think these situations are going to continue. We'll need
your expertise. Appreciate the time this morning, Have a good weekend.
Thank you Scott at kfab dot com and the Zonker's
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custom Woods Inbox email here from Richard says, it's just
sad that we took a tragedy talking about what happened
up in Minneapolis. It's just sad that we took a
tragedy and both sides politicized it. This is why we
will never be great. Everything is going to be political.
(31:19):
How is this politicized? How has this been politicized by
the right? How's it been politicized by DHS? How has
it been politicized by the White House? How has it
been politicized by ice? Because anytime President Trump or anyone
in his cabinet administration says anything, people will say that
they're politicizing an issue because they're politicians.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This I can see how it's politicized by Jacob Frye,
and I can see how it's politicized by Tim Walls.
But candidly, you know, the facts are the facts, and
facts are stubborn. This is what happened. There's no denying
what happened. Now, if we can establish that we have
to follow laws or there are consequences, can we establish that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Apparently?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Now, apparently apparently we don't follow laws in this country,
at least some people do.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I do. I think you do.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
If a police officer comes up to me and says
I need your license, registration and proof of insurance, the
last thing I'm gonna do is turn my phone on
and argue with the guy, which is what happens all
the time. Okay, if I'm at a protest and I
don't like what Ice is doing, which is fine, You're
happy to not like that. But I use my car
to a impede the enforcement of a federal law that
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has been debated, amended, voted on, and then signed into
law by the President of the United States. If I
do that with my vehicle, that's against the law. Now,
I'm perfectly entitled to stand on the sidewalk and wave
my sign around and even say mean negative things to
the ICE agents. But I'm not allowed to use my
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car to get in the way or as is obvious
with this video, run over an ICE agent.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Right. And if you want to stay on political to me,
that's factual. You want to stand there in the rain
like Billy did at seventy second and Dodge. Yesterday, he
talked to KMTV three News Now and said, I'm gonna
stand out here with this sign. By the way, the
signs said Republicans in uniforms are armed and dangerous, threat
to life, limb and liberty. And the news put that
on last night and he said he was going to
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stand out there in the rain. Quote, I'll be out
here until this cardboard dissolves. AI says cardboard dissolves in
approximately two months. Several kfab listeners noted that he is
no longer out there today. It's a miracle that cardboard
is already dissolved. Amazing great points though, Jim. You can
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send your points in as well, scottkfab dot com. That's
how you reach us via the Zonker's custom what's inbox?
But you got people at their gym as political, well,
they said everything is, but they say we're at war
with Venezuela. We're not at war with Your definition of
war does not comport with the facts. You know that
there are approximately eight hundred and sixty three people detained
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as political prisoners by that dictator that we've removed from
power in Venezuela. They're now being released from prison. If
you turn on the news, you'll see people out there
anxiously and happily finding family members, loved ones who are
finally getting out of political prison and put there by Maduro.
This started happening the other day. President Trump said, we're
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getting great cooperation from officials in Venezuela. And this is
still something that people are all sour about. Oh, it
would be at war with Venezuela over oil. We're not
at war with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Well, it's like we saw yesterday on Capitol Hill, five
Senate Republicans jumped over to vote with Democrats on a
resolution to keep the president from doing his job.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
None of them with Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Of them were from Nebraska, one of them was from Missouri.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
They just they say, we can't have you do that.
What can't have you do?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
What this was?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
This is not an act of war? Was this was
enforcement of laws. Seventeen House Republicans, by the way, voted
with Democrats to try and subsidize Obamacare. Again, none of
them were Don Bacon. In case you're wondering, there's a
lot of holiday stuff still kind of hanging up around
the hallways here at news Radio eleven ten Kfavy. Generally,
as you get into the second week of January, I
(35:30):
think it's probably okay to take that stuff down. Could
you reach out to State Centaer Mikayla Kavanaugh and have
her go through the hallways and just start tearing stuff
off of our walls?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know, actually I did, did you?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah? I did. She busy, she had her hands full,
she was busy.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
She was looking for some new stuff to filibuster about,
and I think she'd come up with it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So, yeah, this legislative session, Jim, is going to be fun.
Kathleen cal th reinstituted the stay out of the Girl's
Bathroom guy bills, which is, as you know, nothing's more
controversial in our day and age than asking boys not
to go in the girl's bathroom, locker rooms and places
like that. So that's going to be a fun filibuster. Yeah,
(36:12):
she probably will attempt to do it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Maybe we'll get enough Republicans to say, we have only
sixty days. We don't have time for this, so we'll
end the filibuster. In the ninety day session two years ago,
they didn't have that. She has her constituency of people.
I don't understand it, but she has them, and this
is her last session. So she's going to go on
(36:35):
a scorched earth policy. And this is her because she's
term limited. She can't run again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
You were hanging out with state officials last night. Are
they going to put her in the corn Husker clank
for taking She tell everyone what she did and whatever
one's matter about and what could happen.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
But she went through the hallway of the Capitol and
started tearing things down off the wall. These were pieces
of artwork that were hung as part of the two
hundred fifty year Celebration of America, and it was a
depiction of some Nebraskans who have been inte gold in
the development of our country over two hundred and fifty years.
Some cases, I believe there were some women, some very
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important women whose picture and story were on the walls.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I don't know who let that happen? But okay, Mikayla.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mikayla said, well, wait a minute, we can't hang things
on the wall, so I'm just doing my civic duty
by pulling them down. Well, if Jim Rose or Scott
Vorhees or Lucy Chapman walk into the State Capitol and
start yanking things down off the wall, we get arrested.
And I don't know what exempts Senator Mikayla Kavanaugh from
getting locked up over this, but maybe not. She might
(37:39):
be cited. Now, is this grounds for expulsion from the
unicamer It would be good for getting business done, But
the answer is probably not. They're not going to go
through that process of bouncing Mikayla Kavanaugh out of the
unicameral for this.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
But some sort of citation by the state patrol would
be good. Some sort of.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Least admonishment from the rest of the unicameral would be
good because you just can't be doing that. Look, if
she's your state senator, you either voted for her or
you didn't. She's yours and you can live with the
emotional outbursts, the unhinged behavior, the remarkably you know, thoughtless
(38:21):
things that she will say from time to time.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's her.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's the nature of an elected body of legislators. They
are picked by their people, and it doesn't matter what
the rest of us think, because she is theirs. And
if you live anywhere else in the state of Nebraska,
you may be deeply embarrassed by her. You may think
that she's a scourge upon the state of Nebraska, which
she may very well be. But that's that's too bad,
(38:46):
because she belongs to her people, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
You know, she is the one who did the filibuster
a couple of years ago, who was saying like, well,
we love trans people. Trans people belong here, we love
trans people, and did that for a couple of years.
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Speaker 6 (39:13):
Good morning, Kfab family. This message is for Michayla Kavanall.
We need wall pictures. We love wall pictures. Wall pictures
belong here. We need wall pictures. We love wall pictures,
wall pictures belong heird.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
That goes on for another two and a half minutes.
It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Jeez. I don't know why Gary
left you people, I really really don't. So we got
that going on. And you know that this was not
something where she just showed up and said, well, these
wall pictures on there, they're not supposed to be there.
You're not allowed to hang stuff up. This was highly
(39:51):
orchestrated because of where these images of America's greatness over
two hundred and fifty years came from. Do you know
whose response for kind of orchestrating the putting them there?
Praguer you? Conservative Dennis Prager and his kind of Hillsdale
like think tank Praguer you. And there were people who
(40:12):
were before the legislative session started posting online. I see
one of them here online from a woman named Kay said,
heads up, these cardboard posters now adorn the halls of
the Nebraska Capital, sent by President Trump to Governor Pillen
for children to read and scan. This is exceptionally serious, folks.
(40:34):
Praguer you is recognized as a propaganda and Christian nationalist
organization trying to read what write history and it goes on, Wow,
a Christian, a patriotic and Christian organization hanging up signs
in the Nebraska state capital. How did they ever allow
such a thing to happen to celebrate the founding of
our nation by largely Christian people. But be that as
(40:59):
it may, Mikayla Kavanaugh was the one state senator from
Omaha took it upon herself to go and do that.
Five Republicans, you said earlier, Jim sided with all the
Democrats in the Senate yesterday and said, look, we just
want to remind the President you can't declare war with
a congressional authority. We're not at war with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Well, this is what got them, And you know, Rand
Paul has been sort of a thorn and Trump's side
for ever since Trump came down the escalator. Susan Colline off,
Lisa Murkowski, two other Republicans in Alaska, not Republicans, Yeah,
Tim Young, the Senator from Indiana, and Josh Holly, the
Senator from Missouri, jump in and they both said we
(41:38):
were fine with the president until he just sort of
flippantly suggested boots on the ground. And if the President
of the United States says boots on the ground, we
need to step up and act so as we know,
we've talked about this, and anybody who's been awake for
the last ten years knows this president says things thoughtlessly.
He will just pop off and say things that he
(41:58):
probably doesn't mean, but he just popped into his head
and he says them. And that was probably the case
with boots on the ground. Boots on the ground is
different from law enforcement activity.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I want to push back a little bit on what
you did. So that's what they said yesterday I asked
about it. I don't think that President Trump, when he
talks about the possibility all like, hey, it can't rule
out boots on the ground of Venezuela. That's not something
that just pops into his head and he says thoughtlessly.
This is a long standing tradition by this president where
you don't tell your enemies what you will or won't do. Sure,
(42:31):
you got to tell your enemies, Hey, anything's possible. It's
up to you to decide what we're going to do here.
I don't think that was a thoughtless and careless comment
by the president at all.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, the deft way to handle that, Scott is to
not say anything. You don't answer that question with specifics
regardless of whether your intent is to make sure they're
confused or not. This is the problem with this president.
Not saying anything is not Trump's strong suit exactly. This
is the thing with this president. This is what you
get with him. Now, you get a whole bunch of
(43:01):
other great stuff that's working out like Trump's terrorists, for example,
are working out great.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
You get the border shut off like he's promised on
day one, and it pretty much happened on day one.
You're getting all of these bad guys rounded up and
either detained or sent back home to wherever. But you're
also getting somebody who says whatever the hell he wants
and he doesn't care what impact it has. Same thing
when he goes on truth social he says things that, hey,
(43:28):
you're the president. When the president says that, that's different
from some shoe clerk in Fremont, Nebraska saying it. And
that's where his enemies and that's where his political detractors live.
They use his words against him to charge up some
sort of political frenzy, whether it's in the state of Minnesota, Portland, Oregon,
or anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
He ain't changing, Okay, he's going to be president for
pretty much three more years.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I was thinking about this this week, how a lot
of people thought, perhaps in the hours after the president
was given a speech in Pennsylvania and a gunman nearly
took his life and stroke a miracle, and people thought,
you know, maybe this will kind of set things up
for a kinder, gentler, more thoughtful, someone who's like, wow,
(44:18):
I the lights almost went out there a moment ago,
and I've been given a new lease on life. And
maybe this will be a Donald Trump that we've never
seen before, someone who's a bit more gracious and uh,
a little more humble, a little more humble. How long
did that last? And didn't last long?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
I mean, he talked about it at his convention that
this has had a profound effect on me, but then
it was over, and it's over now. And if you
listen to him now, you did get the impression that
there was nothing in that incident that affected him.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I think it put a clock in his head. He
knows the midterms might not work out well for the
Republican Party. I think if they were held today, I
don't know that a single Republican would be re elected.
If you listen to the across the country. Yeah, I
know it's like exaggeration, but he knows if we're gonna
get anything done, we have this year to get it done. Sure,
I got the people or Trump maybe gonna vote my
(45:11):
people out of office. Sure, some of my Republicans are
leaving me on various things, and there are a lot
of people out there that want me dead. So I've
got to move. I gotta go. No, I like eight things.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, and I appreciate that. I don't think there's ever
been a harder working president than this guy. He never
takes a vacation, Joe Biden. He never takes a vacation.
He's constantly got things going. He's got ten balls in
the air. And not too any presidents do that because
they just want to play the long game, get along,
do something here and there that says that their legacy
(45:42):
will be okay with historians not thinking that. Historians really
don't care what a Republican gets done. They can cure cancer,
they could end every war and ensure free sex for
everybody and they would still be fine.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
But the truth is, I think that is in short
or not you're gonna get it, is one thing you
don't always have to pay.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
So he but he's thinking, you know, I only have
so much time here, and when I'm gone, they're gonna
tear everything I did down, unless my vice president becomes president.
They're gonna tear all my presidential orders down, all of
my proclamations down, all of my executive orders down. They're
gonna peel the gold off the Oval Office and put
whatever they want in there.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Now that Jim is something I am not gonna push
back on. From Nebraska Game in Parks. It is Greg
Wagner here on Nebraska This Morning News. Now, listen, Greg,
don't bring in your politics in here. We've been here it.
We've been hearing all day about how you say ice
is dangerous. And then Craig Evans told me that you're
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talking about that talking about the lake's ice fishing. Yes, okay, God,
Greig Wagner talking ice. Thought you were bringing your politics
in there, Craig, Yeah, Do people honestly think, like, hey,
I know it was sixty the other day, Maybe I'll
get in some ice fishing.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
You know, I live off Flanning in Lake and I've
seen people the last week or so on splotches of
ice fishing, and I'm like people, people know, or I've
seen people casting from that ice into open water. Weakest
ice in the lake is right, there no safe ice
(47:22):
for ice fishing.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We call animals dumb.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I mean, there's no animals on the ice.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
What about if you can stand there on the bank
or some dock or something like that, find some open
water which is easy to find. How is fishing right? Now?
Here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 7 (47:38):
We've had ketches of crappie, catfish and trout where we
have them stuck by people bank fishing, casting into splotches
of the open water and using minnows where you can
use them, or they're using waxworms, which is an ice
fishing bait, kind of like meal worms. Yeah, and you know,
catch an occasional fish here and there. Unbelievable well for January,
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Rosie January in Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, it's certainly shortening up our winter to have and
then back in the fifties early next week.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Basketball is fifteen and people are catching fish.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
What's going on? If global warming is responsible for all
of this? The weather Husker basketball team, I'm all for it.
I'm gonna start breaking some styrofoam up hunting obviously when
you have snow and you have colder temperatures, that lends
itself better to certain tests hunting. So when we have
these conditions, I've been out, you.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
Know, we have a late season firearm deer hunting season
going for dose. Basically it's been tough. You know, when
you got a fur coat on, you don't need to
eat as often when the weather's warm, and you know,
it's all about food this time of year to try
to find those dough groups, and it's been tough. And
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you know, deer move the last few minutes of light,
or they're moving at night when it's colder, and so
that's been a little tough, little tough too for the
uppling ambered hunters, and a little tough even for some
of our Canada goose hunters that are out there in
the field as well. Ye, with mild temperatures in times,
not much wind.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
And not a bad weekend weatherwise, I mean it's not
sixty it's going to be you know, mid to upper
thirties through the weekend. What's going on in our state parks.
Speaker 7 (49:17):
Well on the state parks end, it's the other end
of things, So things are very good there.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Parks are all open.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
We had a New Year's Day kind of a big
hike thing mornings and afternoons. Tremendous numbers of people came
out because we had good weather. But our grounds are
all open. Our indoor facilities if things are a little
too chilly for you, a lot of those at Mahoney
State Park and also a neat facility. We have indoors
at Shram Education Center. It's a naturalist facility. So the parks,
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we're loving it because we're getting a lot of sights.
Here's a lot of people wildlife watching, got a lot
of swans in the area of bald eagles.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
It's really cool for the parks. And finally on the
outdoor bulletin board, well.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
We think spring and we're gonna start selling spring wild
turkey hunting permits Monday at one pm Central Time. There
is a non resident quota on them of ten thousand.
Those ten thousand spring turkey permits will go in less
than four hours. Go online, tell your friends and family
members that their non residents get on the stick with that.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Just walked down Underwood and looked for the wild turkeys
crossing Pete Rickett's
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yard and Listen to Greg Wagner on this not jimro
Nebraska Game of Parks Greg, Happy New Years, hear you, guys,
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