R Explains Why He's Now a D

Yes, I understand the double meaning of that title!  But it's all in fun, as is my conversation with "Huge D" Jeremy Aspen, the lifelong Republican who tells us why he registered yesterday as a Democrat.  After that interesting conversation, Lucy and I turn our attention to other matters, like a strange arrest finally made in Bennington, the JFK files, the Trump-Putin call, and more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scottie, I've seen this on social media, asked sarcastically quite
a bit over the last few days. What in the
world is the Republican Party here in Omaha going to
do without Jeremy Aspen? And so now we ask Jeremy Aspen. Jeremy,
welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, thanks so much, Scott, thanks for having me, thanks
for having this fantastic show.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I can answer that question. Yes, it's not going to
do much. They're not.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
They're not as actually as worried as I thought they
probably should be.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, let's let's lay out a few things here. You've
you registered as a Republican on your eighteenth birthday, which
is an increasingly longer time ago. Every day. You and
I are about the same vintage, which is to say
we are super super old. We just sound young. Who's
the first president you voted for that?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, no, yeah, it would have been probably Clinton.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I think, I mean I didn't vote for Clinton, right,
dald I metal I was actually on the on the
on the trail back then.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You're and you're going to break Senator Bob Dole's heart
by now changing your political affiliation to Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think there's not much of a chance he would
have stuck around in the Republican Party either. I mean
he would have done it just because he was a
very disciplined person. But like I had been for the
last several years, but this isn't the same Republican party
that Dole grew up.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
There, let's lay it out here. You don't like Trump.
You haven't let Trump for ten years since he came
down the golden escalator. You have not liked Donald Trump
before the social media post. You haven't liked Trump. You've
been You've been agitating from an anti Trump perspective on
social media since his first term in office. Before so well,

(01:43):
but before he was a more of a media figure
and he would ask some questions about whether Obama was
born in Kenya.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's the issue for me. So the reason that I
was never Trump in twenty fifteen. Before it was cool,
it's not as cool before twenty fifteen. People with a
conspiracy laden mind and coupled with power are really dangerous people.
So for me, the only issue really, there's plenty of reasons,
and I think I mentioned this in the column. There's

(02:14):
plenty of reasons not to like Donald Trump as president.
But the only one that I needed was that he
believed in conspiracies, and that's not a good thing because
of the you know what's happened since then.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
There's a whole bunch of kind.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Of conspiracies that people he promotes and people believe now
in a world that's run in that space and that
kind of environment, Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Believe that Obama was born in Kenya and not. This
is a way that really gets under his skin, and
I'm just going to keep hitting it because that's the
kind of guy I am.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, I would say that's definitely the kind of guy
he is, which is also a decent reason not to
vote for somebody, because the moral out, the ethics. You know,
you don't don't be a what's the right way of
saying dic k on the road?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
We all know how to spell right. Jerk usually gets
some across. That's a jerk face. But yeah, so well,
Trump also said that, you know, Obama was spying on
my campaign and I had nothing to do with any
Russian collusion, And as it turns out later the Obama
administration had been spiring spying on Trump's campaign through the

(03:19):
Department of Justice, and there was no Russia collusion. So
Trump certainly has a big mouth. But you've you've you
just don't like it, which is I'm not sitting here
wearing a Trump Maga cheerleading outfit or even a red hat.
I don't work for the man. I just want to
have interesting, compelling conversation. Donald Trump doesn't live here in Omaha.

(03:44):
You do. You've been pretty active in Republican Party politics.
You even were the spokesperson. That's how I first got
to know you in the recall campaign against Democrat Mayor
Jim Subtle of Omaha. So you've it's not like you
just completely came out of left field and like, who's
this guy? Uh, you don't like Trump? He doesn't live here.

(04:05):
A lot of people who you do know live here
in Omaha who voted for Trump. Oh yeah, all you
know most of my friends. So what about your relationship
with Trump voters?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, so, one I do always like to clarify that
it's not that I don't like Trump, is that I
think he's a bad president. And there is a little
it's a nuanced difference, but it's kind of a big
enough difference to highlight it. But you know, as far
as my friends go on the Republican side, there matter
of fact, I'm getting a whole bunch of texts and
everything like, Hey, we're gonna miss it. We're still gonna
get some beers together, We're still gonna have a good time.

(04:38):
Like that's not really going to change. But most of
them do really understand that the dynamics and the culture
of the Republican Party is guided by somebody who I
think is unfit for that position, which of course is
Donald Trump, and that it's become more of a taken

(04:59):
orders then it has been a party that's based on
some sort of ideology. And so that's why for me,
like I like conversations too, Scott, I like conversations a lot.
It's one of my most favorite things. That's why I
really enjoy being here. But at the end of the day,
I kind of feel like I'd like to be useful
in the Republican Party. If you don't kowtow to Donald Trump,

(05:23):
there's really not much of a place for even your voice,
much less you as an individual, like going to caucus
at the conventions and whatnot. You either fall in line
or you're out. You know, well that's another story. And now,
so to be effective, I think and kind of the
point of my column is I'm gonna keep my Republican

(05:46):
friends and I'm gonna I'm gonna make some new Democrat friends.
But the Democratic Party, I think is in a better
position to change. It's kind of crazy wokeness which has
driven me nuts, and it's the reason that Trump is
in office.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And turn it into it or not. I can't.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm Jeremy all right, I'm not going to change the
Democratic Party, but it is going to have to be
people like me that are willing to like give up
a little bit of our you know, preference for you know,
what the Republican Party was, and and vote like in primaries.
You know, the primary system here in Nebraska for Democrats
is a waste of time. You need redshare as a

(06:26):
Republican so you can pick which Republican you prefer better
then vote for the Democratic ticker right. Never written a
column about that too, and I think it's a fair assessment.
I think it's a fair accusation that the Democratic Party
in this part of the country where we live has
not been extremely effective in putting up the right candidates

(06:47):
to compete the well.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
They can't get anyone in a lot of state wide
offices the Democratic Party and several state wide offices, including
US Senate. This last time, Yeah, did not have a candidate. Terrible.
So are you thinking that you want to be that candidate? No?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, I don't want to run for politics at all.
That sounds like the worst job in the world now,
And you know, the filtering process for getting good candidates
is harder and harder, like without being disparaging, and do
you do that? You know, the caliber of people that
are willing to run for offices getting a little bit

(07:26):
worse because the hurdles, the bs that you have to
put up with is getting greater.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know, we don't You wouldn't want to run either,
would you? No? Yeah, nobody really wants to. I mean
it would take a sacrifice. I have so many skeletons
in my closet that doesn't even matter anymore. I talk
about almost all of them on the range. Yeah, I
don't think Anyways, we're still on a lotical campaign. It's
it's weird. So all right, we're talking here with Jeremy Asmin,
who said, who threatened over the weekend, I'm going to

(07:53):
go register as a Democrat? Did you go do that?
I did it Monday morning, Monday morning. You went in
there just here as a Democrat. It's online. Brian Cruz,
the Douglas County Election commissioner, a Republican, was just weeping
in his office. Jeremy was he was he holding onto
your leg?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
No? No, he was very dignified. He was very dignified
when I did it. Brian, Okay, stiff upper lip, upper lip.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I actually almost called him to, you know, ask for
a favor, because hey, you know it's a fellow Republican.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Can you just help me? But it's online. It's so easy.
That didn't even have to bother him. He doesn't even know.
Probably you didn't even go into the office. Big ceremonies,
social media. No, I didn't know that, which missed an opportunity.
There are so many questions I have here. Before we
get into a few words from our sponsors, let me
ask you this one first. Why did you feel the

(08:44):
need to write the column and then go on social media.
It's like people on social media that say I am
leaving Facebook. Go you know, why are you telling I'm
I'm leaving Facebook in three days? After everyone can send
me mess just going? No, no, don't go, just go.
You don't want to be on here, just go So

(09:06):
why the column?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
So one, I sit on the editorial board, so I
get to wat, I get to waffle through all the
submissions all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And we look, now there's no one at all conservative
on the Omaha World Herald editorial board. That's a that's
a topic of discussion. We're gonna get. We're gonna get
some more conservatives up there. It's an easy topic is discussion.
The answer is no, there's no one on the Omaha
World Harold editorial board conservatives. No. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I was the Republican and I think a really good one.
Now I'm a conservative Democrat. I mean can even say that.
I feel like I'm a conservative Democrat.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's that's a few minutes from now. So why did
you Why did you decide? Why write it and you know,
wave a banner rather than just go and do it
and live your life.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well, I think one is I'm humble enough to know
that I can't change the whole world. And like we'd
brought up earlier, I do like the discussion. I'm I'm
not as big of a fan of having discussions online
because they turned into kind of they turn into just
kind of they're rude. But I've had conversations with your publicists.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Or your Facebook friends. Well yeah, except I didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I didn't like all of them, and they're good enough people,
but some of them can be I don't know if
you've seen that on social media, but some people they.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Can be kind of rude.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
But overall it was good, and that's kind of the point.
The reason that I wanted to write the column was
to be able to have kind of a seed for
a conversation about what a healthier two party system looks like.
We do need a healthy two party system. We do
not have a healthy two party system. And if there's
anything I could I think the Democratic Party is in

(10:45):
a better position to be able to affect meaningful change
in the not too distant future because they have screwed
up so desperately in the last ten years or so.
They've gone down a path that hasn't been attracted to
nearly enough people to protect us from what I think
is the scourge of like Donald Trump, And it should

(11:06):
have been easy. They forfeited that with really screaming to
the left, and so now there's a chance I really
believe that the Democrat Party the Democratic Party is going
to make enough change where they can be useful.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, let's pick up there in just a moment here,
Jeremy Aspen, longtime Republican, just switched his voter affiliation to
Democrat because Trump and wrote, well, that's essentially it. And
this was the column in the Omaha World Herald on Sunday.
More conversation with Jeremy next.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten kfaby.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Then the studio is someone I've had a great amount
of conversations with over the years. Started off when he
was and I don't know how in the world did
you get to be the spokesman Jeremy Aspen for the
recall campaign against Mayor Jim Subtle.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
It was like a smoky room sort of an environment
back in the day. I was doing radio, So I
was during that day and age I was probably the
only one Republican that had any kind of media experience,
and so Hal Dobb and.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Of the people who were pushing for other.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
People that were pushing for it, right, So they came
to my office when it was I think it was
how Dobb. Patrick McPherson, you'll remember him, uh, the late
Patrick Patrick, late that's right. They came over, they came
to my office and asked me if I would consider it. Uh,
and uh, sure enough. I was like, you know what,
I talked to my wife about it, and it uh
it was definitely something I could get behind.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And kaboom, Yeah it was you. You were out there
pushing for we got to recall Mayor Subtle, and a
lot of voters are like, the election is just a
few months away, why are we And so eventually Mayrizuttle
was recalled, but it was in the general election.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, well it was a little delay. There's a
delayed recall.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And then then enters Gene, who's been doing a fantastic
job ever since.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, and well, are you voting for Mayor Stothard here
in her reelection? Bid?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, there's no way I wouldn't because I don't really
see these municipal elections as partisan. There's no ideology left
or right that lends itself better to managing a city necessarily.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
So that just goes back to you've left the Republican
Party and registered as a Democrat because you really really
really don't like Trump on any front. You don't like him,
you don't like his policies. I don't like what he's
done to the Republican car So what do you like
about the Democrats? Because so far I've heard about how
the Democrats should be what the Republicans were twenty years ago,
and that's why you want to be a Democrat. I

(13:45):
don't know if you've noticed, but they haven't exactly moved
in that direction.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
They have not moved in that direction. But there are
inklings that are demonstrating that there's a chance that they've
learned from being so silly about some things that they
didn't have to even take much of a stance against,
like the wokeism.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's just one of those things that drives me. Let's
take this one.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
White privilege, all right, So if you really want to
turn off white male votes, accuse them of having a privilege,
right they don't you tell that to a day worker
or a concrete layer or or a white that it's
a really hard pill for them to swallow when they're
living paycheck to paycheck and somehow they have to forfeit

(14:34):
some of their rights, some of their benefits for the
greater for the betterment of some other whatever race, creed, whatever.
Where So the way that that's framed in the Democratic
Party has been detrimental because if you were to reframe
it just a little bit differently, you could easily tell
people or get people to agree that, you know, to

(14:57):
be African American in the United States is a little
bit of a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think you can say black again, can you say black? Yeah? Okay,
so that's been the over writing. So to be black.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
In the United States is no, it's it's a little
bits a few more hurdles, and I think there's a
neat thought experiment on this one.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
You say, you're in heaven, all right, and you get
up to heaven and God's like, Scott.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
It's a stretch already. Okay, it's a stretch, but this
is what's happening. God made his I know, oh I
hear it all the time.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
You're up in heaven and He's like Scott or you know, listener,
I would like to send you back to Earth. But
this time I'm gonna let you pick what race, uh
to send you. I'm gonna send you to to Nebraska.
Pick which race. Generally speaking, without having to get an answer,

(15:56):
people are gonna say, people understand what that thought experiment Okay, yeah,
there is probably a little bit more of a disadvantage
for somebody who's black in America. That is an easier
pill to swallow for everybody to get behind than to
say that I'm privileged because I'm white. It's a little
offensive to people who especially the ones that aren't privileged,
and that's the kind of thing that has to change

(16:18):
in the Democratic Party. They need to be able to engage.
They need to be able to say, you know, what's
great about America instead of whining about everything that's going wrong.
They've got to have more of an optimistic take on everything.
And my point is that I think that that's what
that's the direction they're going. It's more of an optimistic

(16:39):
kind of viewing. It's not this negative nant like on
the Republican side of things. It's just it's just chaos.
It's so tiring to listen to the news or read
the news, and to feel like you can't get anything
done in that environment just makes it unattractive for a
guy like me.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
It seems like you started these thoughts as saying the
Democrats have been pushing this white privileged narrative, which turns
off that which turns off white people, especially white guys,
and then by the end, now as a new Democrat,
you've gone over their hat in hand, basically apologizing I'm
so sorry I am a straight white guy. And I
gave you that. Yeah, because you're You're the whole idea

(17:20):
about you know, if you're going back to Earth from
heaven and you could choose what race and so forth,
it's you. You now have seemingly transitioned over to the
Democratic way of thinking by showing up in their party
and basically apologizing I'm so sorry I'm a white guy.
Because that was my first thought when I was reading
that on Sunday morning, I was like, Oh, the local

(17:42):
Democrats are like, hey, we got a white guy. We
gotta we gotta straight white guy. This is this is great.
You know, let's let's hear what he has to say
that I don't I don't think that they care.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, I mean, I think there's a decent chance that uh, okay,
just on the anecdotal feedback that I've gotten, there are
a lot of Republicans that are in a very similar
position to that I'm in. There are so few of
us that are super excited about the Republican Party, but
they couldn't get themselves to vote for Kamala Harris because
of that, those sorts of things like like the wokeness.

(18:17):
It's just it's irritating. It's not important. Well, okay, I
don't need to necessarily say that it's not important. But
it's a super small fraction of the United States. It's
not important enough for everybody to be willing to sacrifice
a lot of who they are to be able to
let's not fit in.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
But the the.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
The feedback that I'm getting from the right is pretty positive.
They they do like the idea of maybe having a
more moderated Democratic Party. And it's not because the color
of our skin.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I would I would hope that a lot of people
would feel that way. Jesse Kel is a he's evenings
nine to midnight here on eleven ten kfab and he
gets out the handcannon every single day and just fires
away at the Democrats. So I almost pulled off the
road a few weeks ago, and he said, I would
love to have the option to vote for a Democrat.

(19:15):
Do you have to have some you know, two parties
that you know go back to we only disagree on
these few little issues, and we've got good people on
both sides, and we all seem to be reasonable. I
think that would be great for America. And I'm like, wow,
I never thought i'd hear Jesse Kelly say that. But
you know what, this is the Republican and Democrat party

(19:38):
that so many of us, Jeremy grew up with, and
it would be you know, the the tip O'Neil Ronald
Reagan standard bearers for their party, which I mean, now
that looks like so quaint and beautiful and it seems
like it's so many years and miles away from where
we are now. How in the world do we get
back there?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, the the hardest thing is this social media environment
has made it such a bifurcaded environment. There's really tribalism,
to use that overused phrase. But we all do see
ourselves in one of the two tribes, and in order
to really demonstrate your part of the tribe, people you know,

(20:21):
pull out their feathers and just they show, hey, look
at me over here, I'm a little bit more left
than you to just to show their allegiance to the tribe.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Let me put it in another way, I think people
take it too personally, whereas when you know, you go
back forty fifty years, it was I voted for this guy,
I voted for that guy. But we got to keep
an eye on them because I don't know if I
trust any of those scoundrels in Washington.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, they make them all. Both sides are making the
other people out to be enemies. And the fact of
the matter is that most Democrats are not radical, most
Republicans are not radical. And kind of the point that
I usually making my columns is that I am anti radicalization.
I think the Republican Party more so that more than

(21:06):
that it's Trump. The Republican Party has taken on an
air of extremeism that is unhealthy, and the Democratic Party
has less of that nowadays, and kind of I think
is looking for a different flavor, something a little bit
more moderate, less radicalized.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, which gets us back to I think that you
want to be a part of a Democratic party that
doesn't seem to exist looking anymore at their candidates. So
I'm going to ask you here in just a moment,
so which candidates who have been Democrats over the last
ten years would you have voted for and why? And

(21:47):
what did you like about President Biden. So we'll address
that and talk about some of the is here leaning
back on to cheese. I don't know, You've got a
few minutes, got a few minutes to think about that.
Fox News updates? Sorry, can I do a Fox News update?
And you're a new Democrat? Okay? So then Anti Aspen

(22:07):
Fox News Update. Jeremy Aspen is our guest. He is
just re registered away from the Republican Party to being
a Democrat because Trump. And we'll talk more with Jeremy next.
Our guest in the studio is someone who is a
longtime Republican, was the spokesperson for the recall campaign against
Mayor Jim Subtle, and in the Omaha World Herald on

(22:31):
Sunday said that's it. I can't take Trump anymore. I
am registering as a Democrat, which you did yesterday. Yes,
that's why you still got that new Democrat. Democrats smell well,
it's it smells like President Biden and it's a it's
a mix of disappointment and ben gay. So what about

(22:51):
President Biden is so great that you're like, I got
to be a Democrat?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, I mean the reason I switched to the Democrat
Party wasn't because I was fueled by the greatness of Biden.
I think he was probably very very mediocre president, you know.
But if to answer the question, because I'm not going
to duck at Scott, thank you, Jared, I think he's
actually he was actually a decent human being, and that
is a big win. You want a person that's a

(23:17):
decent human being in the White House, and he was
all of that, Okay, So factoring out all the conspiracies
and stuff people put him in, he I think in
his life was a good human Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I always like the story Chuck Grassley told me. After
Biden was in office as vice president for a few months,
he called Grassley's office. These guys are old guard senators,
and Senator Grassley was like, what can I do for you,
mister Vice President, and Joe Biden said nothing. I just
I just kind of missed my friends, you know. And
that's also a quaint story that seems like it was

(23:48):
a million years it couldn't happen. I don't know. Yeah,
I'd ask Grassley about that. Over the years of Biden's president,
he goes, I don't think Biden's in charge anymore, which
gets us now to this mechan that is that a
lot of people look at and say, well, this is
kind of the Democratic Party right now. And there is
an element that is incredibly woke. There is an element

(24:10):
that says, you can't be pro life and be a
Democrat anymore. There is an element that says, we think
throwing bazillions of dollars at Ukraine for his never ending
war is a great idea. You know, Trump comes along
and says, we're not doing any of this anymore. And
sometimes he won't shut his big fat mouth. Sometimes all
the time he won't shut his big fat mouth. And

(24:32):
that's caused I think some people to say, well, I
don't like him. But from a policy standpoint, why don't
you like Trump? Well, for the start, that brook the
Camel's back was tariffs. I am a free trader.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I believe that government intervention in the free markets is
a bad idea to control. To try to control the
economy is what the old Soviet Bloc used to do.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
All of these countries that have big tariffs against us.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Though are more socialists than we are. Yeah, all right,
so we don't want to take on so Canada they
like two d and twenty percent tax on eggs. So
the answer, in my estimation to fight back against that
is to let a free economy drive what's going to happen.
So what Canada does is they impose on their own

(25:18):
people an expense that doesn't have to be there. If
they were to lift those bring in some eggs from
the United States, they would have more spending money to
use on other things. Controlled economies. Central controlled economies don't work.
And to try to shift this economy, mostly service based industry,

(25:41):
into a manufacturing economy is one not going to work. Two,
even if there's any hint of success, it will necessarily
mean that the quality of life for Americans had to
have gone down to get there. Tariffs that for me
was like, if I can't be a free marketer in

(26:04):
my own party, I am out and the Democrat Party,
the Democratic Party is more in line. They're anti these
stupid tariffs.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Now they're anti Trump. They don't like anything Trump, but
that's part of it. What what about Biden's economic policies
or Bernie Sanders or whoever would be a Bernie terrible?
Well mean, but what about the Democrats ideas on economy
that we've seen under President Biden that resulted in twenty
percent plus inflation during his four years in office. What

(26:37):
about any of that is a great idea.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, the inflation, now, then we got into a conversation
about how the inflation was caused, all that that was
quantita A vs.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
And And all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
But I mean, I can say, for one, Biden didn't
put tariffs, ridiculous tariffs on our and pick fights with
our with our allies, with our best trading partners. That
alone makes him, I think, probably a better press.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I would, and I would be curious to see whether
a lot of these tariffs are still there in a month,
six months, a year. It seems like President Trump is
trying to say, you guys were supposed to be allies
and friends. You're hitting us with tariffs like this. So
here we're putting a tariff on you. You want to
change that, bring your tariff down, We can eliminate ours,
which is what President Trump's stance has been.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I know, but in order to do that, you
have to necessarily be a more so like you have
to at least threaten to be more socialist. I don't
think that's a good idea. I don't think it's becoming
of a Republican to say, okay, you're we should expect Canada,
being a much more left leaning country, to do things

(27:42):
that socialists do. Why are we surprised and why would
we think that we have a say in how they operate.
They're doing harm to their own people, that's their thing.
But to make it better by doing harm to our
people is dumb.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
What about? What about what's happening here today? A conversation
between Trump and Putin to try and end the war
in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's another one that was super frustrating for me, because
I do believe that our World War two allies.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
We have a lot in common with them.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Western civilization is better served by a strong America that
is willing to take on a leadership position and essentially
police the world, because that's the deal we made after
World War Two and since World War Two. The world
is a better place when it is pro Western civilization.
Putin is not pro Western civilization, just like China not

(28:39):
Western civilization. They have real differences. Our friends in Europe
and Canada and Mexico, we have so much in common.
It's such a useful relationship. We've all gained so much
that to start to make it to really damage those
relationships in the long run, is not going to it's

(29:01):
not going to be a long term advantage for Americans.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Nobody what Okay, the policy has been, we throw billions
of dollars at Ukraine. This war has been going on
over three years. There's no end in sight. Trump is
looking to end it and save lives and save American dollars.
And he's pushed Europe, our allies over there that said, yeah,
we're right there with you. But they haven't sent any weapons,

(29:26):
they haven't sent any money, they haven't sent any troops
right there. They sent in the last month.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, no, no, before that, they still had more. They had
sent more money and not weaponry because it's American weaponry
like Denmark. But they had sent more money to the Ukraine.
But regardless, I do believe, and it is an unfortunate
situation when I say, uh, like the policeman of the world,
protecting democracy, having democracy uh in the world is very

(29:56):
useful and making sure that when it's attacked that there's
some thing pushing back against it is ours is I
do believe our responsibility and UH in Europe, I mean
they have to have they have.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
To have UH.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
They have to participate also, and they are we need
I do believe the world is better served by making
damn sure Russia doesn't impose itself on a democratic ally.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And they did under Biden and Obama with attacking oh yeah,
like Georgia, and yeah they did. They went in there
until no, and Obama Biden didn't push back, and Biden
didn't push back, which is Trump. Trump is pushing back.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
No no, no, well no no, no, I don't no no.
I mean, what what Biden and Obama should have done
is what Biden did right, pushing by sending arms. And
it's a Croatia to help them. But at the time,
with like Chromania, Crimea, they didn't put up their own
fight and they weren't going to battle against Russia at

(30:59):
that point in time. But when when Ukraine put troops
against Russia and they fought so well and it looked
like there was a stronghold for democracy, that's something you
can take advantage of, sure, and really protect.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Unjordately, if America then takes this stance, you know, Congressman
Don Bacon seems to be wanting to take this stance
that we need, we need to stand up against Russia
in any way by any means necessary. Now that brings
China in, Now that brings Iran and Syria in, and
we've got world War three over a small section of Ukraine.

(31:34):
I don't want to risk American lives because of a
small section of Ukraine. I hope those guys are doing
the best they can, but I'm not willing to do
world War three, and either is Trump.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
But the risk of world War three, if we want
to go to hyperbole, is that if Russia can continue
to make headway into our NATO Allies territory, then at
some point it can go too far. And that's when,
like OURNATO Allies have to go to war because now
Russia has attacked one of them them that's just treaty.

(32:07):
So if yeah, I don't want to go to war,
Ukraine is a buffer from World War three. And that's
why I think it's so important to protect democracy.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, Jeremy asked, been a couple more minutes here,
You've you announced publicly here you're no longer a Republican.
You yesterday registered as a Democrat. And it's a lot
this is because of Trump. As we started off the conversation,
You've got friends who are trumps supporters. Voted three times

(32:37):
for Trump. Yeah, and you're like, hey, these are still
my friends? Yeah? Yeah, knowing as we've talked about here,
that everyone takes all of this so personally, why do
you think that they continue to vote for Trump? And
how can you still be friends with them? Are they stupid?
Are they ignorant? Are they in a cult? How does
how did they continue to vote for Trump? And you

(32:58):
still call them friends?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, I mean our friendship is based on more than
just politics, of course, but the reason I'm part of
their tribe and we're friends, it's like, truly we're friends, but.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
They're not dumb, They're I mean, they're not They're not
even wrong in a lot of ways, like the reason
that people voted for Trump. There are real gripes with
the Democratic Party that made it so that people couldn't
vote for them, and and there are issues that Trump,
for whatever better or worse, he highlighted the the the

(33:38):
frustration and capitalized on it. So you can't really blame
anybody for those particular issues. You don't blame anybody or
think somebody stupid because they like Trump. You just as
far as the friendships go, we're just friends because we
all kind of agree on the same thing. We're just
disagreeing a little bit on the way that we get there.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Have you had anyone from the Democratic Party reach out
to you and say, hey, we'd love to have you
at this next meeting? Yeah, are you interested in a
leadership position? Do you want to run for office because
no one else will? Has there been any of that conversation.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, I have been reaching Some people have reached out,
and people do want to have conversations. I'm not looking
to have conversations about like official roles in the Democrat Party,
but I am interested in having the conversations for the
sake of conversation and to see what local Democratic party
would look like. That has a little bit more of
an infusion of moderation, because that's when things can change.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Your wife is run for office as a Repupublican. Is
she packing her stuff right now while you're out of
the house and leaving you?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Or yeah, no, she's actually and she is actually I
believe right now or Republican. But I think she'll be
switching to the Democratic Party too.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know, do what her husband says, damn it, that's
a very old world Republican thought. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
We haven't talked about what she's going to do, because
she did that for that for the strategy of, you know,
picking the right Republican in the primaries kind of a deal.
But I think she's felt more at home in the
Democratic Party longer than I have.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh oh, all right, well we'll see how that goes
with you and Quinn. And please tell her I said, Hi,
I will, Jeremy, we will always be friends. You so much.
I appreciate it. I think conversations like this that don't
devolve into yelling and screaming. All right, so this is
this is how we continue to move forward. That's right,
and I appreciate the opportunity on this. Fantastic As long
as you and your ILK never win another election, it's

(35:32):
always good conversation, all right. It wasn't long ago you
were saying the same. All right, man, we'll talk more.
That's Jeremy Aspen right here.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Scotties News Radio eleven TI kfab.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
In the Zonker's custom was inbox Scott at kfab dot com.
Like was seventy seventy five percent of every single email
I received via Scott at kfab dot com in the
last hour, and the first sentence has some variation of
the phrase this guy, this guy, ask this guy, tell
tell this guy. Who does this guy think he So,

(36:10):
it's a lot of this guy here in the inbox.
I always like talking to Jeremy. I don't care who
he votes for. I always say this, I don't care
for whom you vote. I care how you treat people
who vote differently than you. Yeah, but I gave him
every opportunity to trash people in his life who are
Trump supporters. I even teed it up. I was like,

(36:32):
do you think they're dumb? Are they duped? Are they ignorant?
Are they in a cult? What's the matter? Are they hateful?
He wouldn't do it, and you can call it any
way you want. I say, that's that follows along my reasoning.
I don't care for whom you vote. I care how
you treat people who vote differently than you. I know

(36:53):
I can hear you right now, if you could hear
eye rolls, I know, I know. Hey, that's do you
know what?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I know? You and I agree that that is your stamp.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right, which is not that? Which is not to say
if someone is being a rabid jerk that you just
sit there and take it. I do not sit there
and take it.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And yeah, I give everyone and a great opportunity not
to be a raging jerk if they want to do that, though,
and they've proven time and time again they want to
do that. I do have that gear, but I don't
look for it. I don't start there, but I finish it.

(37:34):
What are you doing? All right? Last fall we started
telling you about these stories. There were people driving out
near Bennington on Highway thirty six and they come over
this hill and there'd be this junk in the middle
of the road. To be at night, and they come
over the hill and there'd be like a bicycle there,
a bunch of trash in the road, a dishwasher, nuclear warhead.

(37:58):
I mean, they come over this hill and they'd start
crashing into stuff. And in every single instance, there was
a guy who just happened to be nearby who said, oh,
I saw you hit that stuff. Do you need any help?
Do you need a ride anywhere? Do you want me
to call the cops. I'll give you a ride. And
more and borant people started talking in the town or

(38:21):
contacting the authorities, and suddenly there was a thread there
of yeah, and there was this guy. They're like almost
kind of like parked on the side of the road,
almost as though he were waiting for us to come
along and hit this thing that was right there in
the middle of the road at night, and then he'd
show up and try and help somehow, and it creeped

(38:42):
us out. And we are getting these stories back around Thanksgiving.
It is now around Saint Patrick's Day, and yesterday finally
the Douglas County Sheriff's off Office arrested a guy and
he has been charged with let's see here, arrested. What's

(39:09):
He been charged with one count of attempted first degree
assault in relation to a crash on December eighth, one
count of criminal mischief, which involves five thousand dollars or
more property damage that his actions caused. In other words,
even though people were telling us at the time, we

(39:31):
think this guy is out there putting stuff in the
road for us to hit, it was really apparently it
took all this time to pin this on him, but.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
They kind of knew, oh, we had this guy in
their sights for a while.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I reached out to the Douglas County Sheriff's office several
weeks ago and said any update on the story, and
they're like, not yet. Just sure we've identified a person
of interest. Well, they have to.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Make sure that their investigation goes well. I want to
know what the background of this guy is. Like, is
this the kind of story you're going to see on
Dateline in about five years? No of the next serial killer.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Look this is I always say that the Omaha metro
area is the biggest small town on the planet. Everyone
kind of knows everyone. You bring up someone's name and
it's like, oh, I know that guy, or I know
as I answered something like that. So far be it
from me when this guy has yet to see a
courtroom for me to come on the radio and say,

(40:32):
let me tell you about this guy. I'm not even
like I usually do on the program. I'm not even
throwing his name out there. Good. I will say this though,
which is consistent with what I said admonishing me. No. No,
I'm answering the question that we all have because Scott,
it sounds like you have some information you're not telling us. Now,
I'm gonna tell you the same thing that I told

(40:53):
you months ago, as listeners were telling me, people who
live in Bennington. They basically said, we all know who's
doing this, and the person who's doing it is not
some evil guy. It's not anything like that. There might
be some deficiencies that would cause him to do something

(41:20):
like this, but no one scared of this guy. Misguided,
maybe not watched like he should be. That seems to
be the feedback I've gotten from our dear friends in Bennington.
And now this guy has been arrested, I don't What

(41:41):
I still don't know is, well, what happened from he
was identified as a person of interest back before Christmas,
and so here we are three months later and they
finally arrested him. Well, they didn't arrest him because like,
all right, I'm tired of waiting, Just go ahead and
arrest him something either or an admission was made or

(42:02):
a witness statement. I mean, you can say, because everyone
had the same guy identified, but he was identified as
just happening to be there when people were hitting this
stuff that they had a hard time seeing in the dark,
coming over this hill off Highway thirty six, and so
it was really easy. I mean, like in the court

(42:23):
of come on, everyone knew what was going on here,
but the courts don't operate because I would be a
great lawyer showing up there and going, your honor, our
friends in the jury, come on, right, I mean come on,

(42:44):
and they're like, yeah, I know, and then they would
just convict everyone. I would have an incredible right and
I'll also use that as a defense, you know, the
prosecution to be up there going we think that this,
and I go, our friends in the jury, your honor,
take a look at my client. Come on, I mean,

(43:07):
come on, I would be a great attorney. I would
charge so much money so on this one. I mean,
in the court of public opinion, I'd be one hundred
percent on this one. Yeah, he just happened to be there.
Everyone just happened to hit stuff that But here was
the extenuating circumstance. And this is where in a court

(43:30):
of law they're like, we need a little bit more
than come on. I mean, we hear you. We want
to believe we do, but there's gotta be other circumstances.
Why else would this stuff be on the road. Well,
it is on the way to the landfill, and so
it's actually not that crazy that stuff is falling out
of the back of trucks. On the way to the landfill.

(43:53):
But the circumstance of and he just happened to be
there at night, hanging out watching, waiting for someone to
come over the hill and hit this stuff and then
come up and go, are you okay? Do you need
any help? Do you need a ride somewhere? Couples were

(44:14):
out there and they're like, we're not getting in the
car with this guy. Now, We're good. But upon learning
more about this person who's now in custody, the people
who know him are like, he's not he needs to
be instructed and know on certain terms that this is
not appropriate behavior. Why any of this was allowed and

(44:40):
how many I mean right now it's only one count,
so I don't And and it also says the investigation
is still ongoing because there were a few other people
who had the exact same situation. So what happened in
the last three to four months where they either they

(45:02):
had the evidence that this person put something in the road,
I don't know. We don't have that information, that stuff
that comes out in the court and we don't have
And I mean, he was just arrested. He was served
an arrest warrant yesterday and booked yesterday in Douglas County Court.

(45:27):
So that's all we know on that one. That took
a really long time, not as long as since President
Kennedy was assassinated. And we're waiting today for what Buck
Sexton has already said is going to be a huge
pile of nothing, the release of the Kennedy files. I'll

(45:48):
tell you what little we know, and we we might
know more next.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Scott Bodes News Radio eleven ten k FA.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Lucy Chapman, addition to fantastic Timesaver traffic updates, witty banter
occasionally with me from nine to eleven here in the morning.
Also is the official KFAB conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Sounds like Lucy has a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
But has never I have never heard you talk about
any conspiracy related to maybe the biggest conspiracy right up
there with Roswell in the last one hundred years of
this country, the Kennedy assassination. The CIA killed him. I

(46:39):
don't know. I don't know if anything is would be
a conspiracy. Last night, and this is why I say this.
Last night, I'm sitting outside with my fifteen year old
son and we happened to see in the I guess

(47:00):
the south eastern sky a flash of light and it
was it was too big, I think to be a
real shooting star, and it seemed really close, but there
was no sound associated with it for it to be
something like a firework, So there was just something. There

(47:22):
was just an incredible flash of light last night here
in Omaha, and just real brief and we both saw
it and we're like, wow, did you see that? What
was cool? And so then we started talking about aliens
and I said, I've often believed that if aliens were
to land on this planet, that most people, especially your

(47:45):
generation son, would be interested in watch a few videos,
but then it would be like right back to whatever
we were doing, Like it wouldn't be that big a deal, like, oh,
the aliens are here, mayeah, Okay, yeah, they're fun. Can
I have one?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
All right, I'm gonna be outside. And I don't think that.
I mean, I think that everyone's so desensitized by everything.
I honestly think aliens could land and people be like,
all right, well, let me know, I'm gonna go get
some coffee, Like it wouldn't be something we'd all be
sitting around dumbfounded, staring at the screen over so same

(48:22):
thing with the Kennedy assassination. We've been told that President
Trump is going to release another seventy thousand or so
pages unredacted from what Trump, well, from what the government has.
I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
The government did it, they're not gonna Oh, here's the
proof we did it.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Well, here's the only thing that I'll push back on that. Okay,
I don't think Trump gives a rip. You know, so
some some secret swampy people in the government sixty years
ago had Kennedy rubbed out. He's like, hey, here are
the people did it? Some of them are still alive.
I don't I don't think Trump cares. No, I don't
think so. So that's why people are like, well, maybe

(49:03):
there will be something with this. But more people have
said there've already been five million pages from the government
that have been released over the years. Just a few
years ago, there were documents that were released that tied

(49:24):
Oswald into the Soviet and Cuban embassies. There were visits
by Oswald to the Soviet and Cuban embassies during a
trip to Mexico City weeks before the assassination. That stuff
we learned about, I don't know eight years or so ago,
and people are probably hearing that going, oh, that's crazy,

(49:46):
and either they didn't it didn't register when we were
told that information years ago, or what I think I'm
about to hear from Lucy is they didn't believe it. Well,
this is the government releasing it, and they still want
to put in a on Oswald sixty years later. So
no matter what comes out in these documents, if anything,

(50:08):
I think it's going to be like everything else we hear,
people believe what they want to believe. You could tell
someone today is Tuesday and they would say, well, I
know that's the popular opinion. I know that's what they
want you to believe. But if you already have a

(50:30):
consistent belief that today is Tuesday, you're like, well, yes,
of course it's Tuesday. And I don't know why some
people can't see that. People don't believe facts anymore. But
to your point, Lucy, if you believe the government did this,
and now the government is releasing the documents, why should

(50:52):
any of it be believed? Well, I think that I'm
not asking you that question. I am supporting your analysis here.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
I first of all, I don't think very many people
care because it's been Yeah, because it has been so long.
We all know, we all know what. We don't know
exactly what happened in the sequence of events.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Our parents care. I mean, this is still something that's
very real.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
To them when I say it.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Do you talk about standing there staring dumbfounded at the
TV or listening to the radio? As an entire nation
we had that on nine to eleven, Like our kids
generation Lucy still didn't have kids. They think they look
at nine to eleven the way we looked at the
Kennedy assassination. Oh, this happened five thousand years ago, and
that's something our parents and I said was a really

(51:42):
big deal. But you know what do I care?

Speaker 4 (51:44):
And what I would like to see, even if I
was ninety five years old, I would like to see
documents from the government saying, yes, the government did nine
to eleven. That's what I would want to see. Would
it mean anything?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
No, I hope you don't believe that.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
But if I was as you just described, if I
was somebody in their eighties or older or whatever that
remembered it and is still just broken up about it,
as the whole country, the whole world, you found people
that were just just blown away by this just so
sad they would still want to know. I suppose they

(52:19):
would still want the government to say, yeah, we did it.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
But short of that, that's not going to happen exactly
you know, dear citizens of the United States, all right,
you got.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Us exactly right. So there is nothing that they can
release that is going to make a difference to anybody
on either side.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
So don't even release it.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
No, go ahead. I mean, it'd be an interesting read,
but I don't think it's going to make any kind
of an impact. Release the the the investigation that was
made on JFK. Junior. I'd like to see that investmenttigation.
I'd like to crash it.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
He crashed his plane out.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
My point is, like Lucy has a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Anything anything could happen. You don't know what happened, like.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
You do you believe anything has ever just happened or
was it all orchestrated?

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Well, I think some things happened accidentally that somebody might
use as an opportunity, of course, but I think there's
a lot of stuff that's been orchestrated.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
In case that you've just joined us for the first time,
you're on spring break, or you got it. You're still
nursing a hangover from yesterday, and you're like, I'm gonna
listen to the talk radio. That sounds like it'll be soothing,
and it isn't. Let me tell you how this works.
I say something, Lucy offers up a conspiracy theory. I
try and learn more about it, and she just says,

(53:51):
follow the money, and then she just backs away from
the microphone, very self satisfied, and it's very frustrating.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
But I'm not doing that now. I simply say I
don't know anything about JFK Junior. I don't. But what
I do know is that it seems suspicious. And that's
all I can tell you. That's all I can tell you.
To me, it seemed suspicious.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Has every plane crashed suspicious? Nop Okay? Mostly we will uh,
we will get a Fox News update and wait today
to see what Trump is able to release and whether
there's anything in there that's new and interesting and anything
that Lucy might believe. Scott Boyes News Radio eleven kfab

(54:42):
and I should probably talk a little softer, a little quieter,
because there might be some people just coming to this
morning after little Saint Patrick's day revelry that went late
into the night. They called in sick today and now
they're still green, except that it's in the facial region.
So I probably shouldn't get all hyper and start yelling

(55:05):
ow my head. Lucy, I'm sure that applies to you.
I'm sure you went out and just tore it up
last night, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Well, if you're talking about dirt and yard, then you'd
be absolutely correct.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Lucy does more excavation in her yard than Keywit around town.
It's amazing, Like, Lucy, what you do over the weekend.
I just was digging in the backyard, shallow graves, nothing
but shallow graves. I was so lame last night. I
was so close. I thought, I'm gonna go out. I'm

(55:37):
gonna go hang out with these guys over here. Maybe
I'll go down here, you know what. I haven't been
here in a while. And I was like, I'm gonna
do all this stuff. And I decided this is so lame.
I decided to go home and hang out with my
family because my kids were both home. They weren't gonna
go running this way and that, and my wife was home.

(56:02):
She wasn't running around on me last night. So I
was like, you know what, let's just take advantage of
this situation. And I grilled some cheeseburgers and played some
basketball and made fun of my daughter and just had
a wonderful time hanging out with the family.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
And finally I was like, what's Saint Patrick's Day? I
should do? So I had a little bit of Irish cream.
There you go, because I have a lot of Irish cream.
Lucy has made sure of that.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
You haven't drink all that yet It doesn't matter with you.
We can all our friends.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Can we talk about this?

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Which part on?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
It was my birthday last November you got me a
keg of Irish cream, and then just a few weeks
later for Christmas, you got me another keg of Irish cream.
And I thought, how much of this do you think
that I drink? No? I haven't. How much do you

(57:02):
have left both of them? I haven't even I'm still
working on the one you got me last year. I
just I don't drink that much Irish cream.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Oh well, you know I bought the big giant bottle,
which because it has such a better value.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I know, well it's so cheap, which is as you are, No,
I don't want to that shot. I know, yeah, I
know it was a cheap shot. I do enjoy some
Irish cream, but I don't weigh a thousand pounds. It's
just a little bit of Irish cream on ice once

(57:35):
in a while, like maybe once a month. I'm like,
you know what, I kind of want some ice cream,
but I also want to drink it. Wear's my Irish cream.
So last night that was a night for a little
bit of Irish cream.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
You're welcome whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
No, that's another thing about the Irish cream. We still
haven't determined whether it ever goes bad. It is a
dairy based product and mostly and it mostly isn't refrigerated yet.
You would think that this would kill people on contact.
I have been to people's house where I'm like, oh,
there's Irish cream sitting out. It's been open and I
think expired seven years ago. I'm gonna try it. It's great.

(58:12):
I think it gets better with age, like a fine wine.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I drink it.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yeah, Corley, I think speaks for several kfab listeners. I'm
looking here at the Zonker's custom woods inbox got at
kfab dot com. Corley says, one of these days, Lucy
is going to kick your rear end live on radio,
and I'm going to be here to hear it all.
I'd like to see you try.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I'm not going to do any such thing.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Please I need it so desperately. This emailer unsigned fellow
conspiracy theorist says, Lucy, I'm with you. We live in
a simulation.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
See I'm not alone in this simulation.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
And then Erica says, because I said my fifteen and
I have fifteen year old son and I were out
I saw a big flash in the sky last night.
Erica says, my sixteen year old saw the flash in
the sky last night too. We are in Earlham. Is
that how you pronounced it? Thirty minutes west of Des Moines.
He was all excited and said it was crazy. He's

(59:18):
never seen anything like it. We told him it was
probably a shooting star, but maybe it wasn't. No, it
was a It was like the flash of a firework
with no sound, and it didn't streak like a shooting star.
It was more of a flash.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Maybe it was a shooting planet.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
It could have been a shooting planet. Could someone count
the planets pay particular attention to Uranus?

Speaker 4 (59:44):
There it goes Pluto again.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Pluno is off the list again. Trump was talking to
Putin and trying to figure out whether or not we're
going to have any kind of However, ten you was
it is peace in Ukraine. There is an opinion piece
written in Fox News by an author who is also

(01:00:09):
a strategic military intelligence analyst formerly with the US Defense
Intelligence Agency, also the author of a book called Putin's Playbook,
So she's been watching the guy for a while. Her
name is Rebecca Kouffler, and she says don't expect any
big revelations today in the Trump and Putin call. But

(01:00:31):
she also says, don't expect the Trump's just giving Putin
whatever he wants. I know that there are a lot
of people who hate Trump, who say, oh, he's you know,
he and Putin are just buddies and so forth. I
don't think Trump is interested in giving Putent everything that
he wants. I also, based on what Trump has said

(01:00:51):
and done, I also don't believe that he believes that
Ukraine can just get everything they want. I don't know
where we think that history is so different just because
it's twenty twenty five and we have smartphones, that the
rules of invading lands, go into another land, invade and

(01:01:13):
take over property. And that's how maps have been created
and recreated and redrawn throughout all of human history. But
that doesn't apply today because it's twenty twenty five and
we're more sophisticated. Well yeah, yeah, not all of us.

(01:01:34):
I mean, you think the hoothy Rebels or Hamas or
any of the rest of these guys, do you think
that they're all really sophisticated or do you think they
still believe it's power that gets us what we want,
and that's often derived through war stance or sometimes action. So, yeah,

(01:01:55):
it was wrong for Putin to invade Ukraine make that
argument about every country like, oh, we just let's just
give everything back. Well, you know it doesn't work that way,
but you still had to tell Russia, hey stop that,
knock it off. And so at some point if both

(01:02:16):
sides are reasonable, which is where Trump is coming down
the middle here saying, look, we don't want any more
people to die, and we're also just about done giving
you everything you've asked for in terms of money and weapons.
We're not doing that anymore. But we got to be
strong against Putin. But let's face it, Putin went in there,
invaded your country and took a lot of land. We're
gonna get you some of that land back, but not

(01:02:37):
all of it, because this is what Russia does. Well, yeah,
but they're gonna hey, whoa, whoa, let's let's And this
is where Trumps said, give America a bigger stake in
some of your minerals. And now we've got American interest
in Ukraine. So next time Russia invades you, they're invading

(01:02:58):
United States direct interest, and that gives us more of
an opportunity to get involved. And Russia knows that Putin
is an older man now, and that either means he
maybe is a little bit softer or he's just old
and doesn't care. Either way, he's not going to be
in power forever. There will be a new group of

(01:03:20):
even worse Russian dictators to deal with. This is not
just something to try and deal with the last couple
of years. This is something for the long term security
of Ukraine. American needs to be able to get what
we want here, which is going to be a little
bit of what Russia wants, a little bit of what

(01:03:41):
Ukraine wants, and everything almost everything Trump wants. That's the
best scenario, because the other scenario is all right, Ukraine,
you're on your own, We're done, and Russia goes in
and takes all of it, and that's terrible. But this
person says, look, this is just a first conversation, or

(01:04:04):
maybe the latest conversation. I wouldn't expect Trump to come
out today and say, well, I did it. I solved
all the problems between Russia and Ukraine. Here's the other thing,
the other front here. And this is where I asked
the question A moment ago. Am I a monster? I

(01:04:25):
read the news today, actually saw the report. Late last
night Israel started bombing in Gaza again, and then this
morning I saw the death toll. And they think it's
probably four hundred members of Hamas and their affiliates, because
that's all who's left in that region. Israel told them

(01:04:48):
about a year and a half ago, if you don't
want to get killed, then you don't want to be here.
You got to go someplace else. You can go over here,
you can go over here, but do not stay here.
There's a really good chance you could find yourself killed.
And so whoever's there right now probably because well I

(01:05:11):
learned that four hundred people died, five hundred people injured,
and it barely even registered. If I have a needle
that shows my emotions, it barely moved. Oh, a bunch
of like four hundred people the terrorist Hamas group who

(01:05:31):
killed Israelis simply for being Israeli in October of twenty
twenty three and have held hostages since then and killed
hostages since then, and decided like, no, no, we're making
the rules here. We get to tell Israel and America
what to do, and Israel just killed hundreds of them.
You know, you would think four hundred people die. I

(01:05:52):
would like to think that I have an emotional response like, oh,
the humanity, I didn't. Am I a monster?

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
I think you aren't right there? So all you have
is the pictures and the words and the descriptions, and
so are you a monster?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I don't think any of us can really understand, and
I think if we did, we might be monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Here's the emotional response I had. We have the pictures,
and the associated press immediately put out a picture going,
here's the bombed out rubble of a school. They haven't
had kids in school there in a year and a half,
but they had to tell like here's they bobbed a school.
There are no kids in that school. Who's the monster?

(01:06:37):
So we the Middle East be Middle Eastern here since
last night, Omaha time. We'll get the latest in a
Fox News update here in just a few minutes. Clay
and Buck, we'll take it from here. Here's another thing.
This transplant specialist doctor from Brown University who has been

(01:06:59):
detained as she tries. I had to come back into
the country from Lebanon, and people are like, she's a doctor,
she's a professor, she has a clean record. Do you
know why she went over to Lebanon the funeral of
the Hesbalah leader. She's got questions to answer. The media
tell you that no playing, Buck will. They're on next

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