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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Meet Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a four time tire rotation champion. When he was
a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid. Bob's
so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
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has it that Kyle can change your oil with his
toes and that he can tell your tires ill pressure just.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
By how you're walking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
Kfab good Saturday morning to This is a Mister Mechanic show.
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do it live off the cuff and just answer the
questions as we go. So where Buchanan Service Centers that
you heard there you can in eightieth and Dodge fiftieth
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Stop in and see us, and we'll get you back
on the road for summertime, because summertime is coming. At
least it was yesterday, was it yesterday? Days ago? Two
(01:26):
days ago, it was summer. How we're back to winter. Yeah,
a couple of days, we'll be back to summer again. Yeah,
it's just this time of.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Year, three or four fake seasons, and then you know
we'll get into blistering hot heat.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Stop. Yeah, that's just what happens. It is, it is. Yeah,
it's just part of what we do. So you know,
you gotta that's why you gotta maintain that. You can't
just pour water in when you think so. I mean,
you gotta could freeze the next day around here.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, that's a game a Russian rouletter place.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, pretty much filled.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
My radiator with water a few days ago. It's like, okay,
so we've had eighty degrees, we've had twenty seven, So
is it frozen or is it boiling?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I've already getting a couple of air conditioning calls.
Oh yeah, we've done a few, Yeah already, it's uh
it didn't work when they wanted to turn it on,
and mles, well, get it fixed now, why it's cold.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It takes you know, I'm well into you know, may
at least and before the air conditioner kicks out in
the car. Yeah, you know, I'll do a trial run.
You know, Hey, is it going to work when I
need it?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Cool and me shut it back off and hit the windows.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But you got a black you got a white car. Yeah,
if you've ever had a black car, you've got them
on in January. Oh yeah, just because that car soaks
up so much heat.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Cars get hot.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I did not like that. I got rid of that car.
Did not like that. I'm not going to get into
the black car.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I remember that Mustang I had years and years and
years ago. It was black and it was I mean,
it was not a nice Mustang. I don't mistake this
by any pa. I'm selling it high. But anyway, so
we had a built engine, headers, the whole deal of
painted black. You know how hot that thing got?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, it's like the old corvettes with
a transmission hump right there and just bake your right
hand leg or left.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, the passenger window quit work I felt like I
was in an air fryer. I'm about to just smash
the glass out of this thing.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
A little bit of crispy in the morning. Oh, let's
head over to Cliff. Cliff's got a twenty twelve Dodge Ram. Cliff,
what's up today?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, it's not actually my truck. It's a friend of mine,
but we work together, and so I told him, Hey,
I'll call mister mechanic and he might have an answer
for you. So, first of all, I appreciate I love
your show.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Guys, So you bet well, we'll try to help you out.
Then you can decide just what you want to tell him.
How's that? We got it?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Okay? So he's got that twenty twelve Ram three quarter
ton with a five point seven Hemi in it and
the motors. The motor's locked up, and so he's looking
for another motor, and we're having a tough time trying
to find one. But the reason being is people are
saying that if you take a twenty twelve half ton
with the same motor that we're hearing two stories. They're
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saying the changeability of those two motors, there's gonna be
a lot more work put in rather than a straight fit.
I didn't know if you guys know that answer or not.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So are you trying to are you trying to get
a used one or just rebuilding?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, we're looking for a used motor. And they say
the same year with a five point seven, but it's
a half ton. We're hearing from some mechanics or some
people who are think they're mechanics, that the interchangeability of
from a three quarter ton and a half ton it's
not just going to fit right in as far as
because they're talking. Some say something with the cams, some
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saying the wiring and sensors and stuff. So I didn't
know if you guys knew any answer to that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know, I have run across and I do know
there is a difference because I do have somebody at
work that has a twenty five hundred, and then they
also have a a smaller, you know, vehicle that has
just a regular five to seven HEMI in it, and
there is a difference. To tell you specifically what there is,
you know, I don't know because I'm not that deep
into mopart to be able to tell you how you
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know what will fit here what won't fit here? Kind
of like when you used to take one heads off
of one Ford and put them on a different Ford
kind of thing. But there are differences, but I just
can't specifically tell you what they are.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's going to be an internal thing, probably.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Something to do with I would say duration.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Is going to be another thing, because anytime you're talking
three quarter ton, you need to make a lot of torque. Yeah,
and I mean yeah, there are essentially. I mean we think,
you know, five to seven five seven, they're the same engine,
but they're built different. Yeah, and it's always been that way.
I mean, go back to the small block Chevy. The
car three fifty and the truck three fifty were totally
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different engine, same displacement, just different design. So yeah, I
mean you're gonna run into some problems. And trust me,
that's not a job you want to gamble with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let's see if it were. Yeah, you just you run
into problem after problem after problem. And I tell you what,
anytime we've run across this and we've got engines locked
up or a bad I've gotten to the point that
I don't use any used engines at all on this
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particular vehicle. In fact, I don't even use any rebuilt
engines on this vehicle anymore. The only engine that will
put in is something that comes straight from the dealship.
And here's the reason why we have put engines in.
I mean, how many how many? How many engines did
you do from a rebuilder here in town on one
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for on one Dodge pickup six six one car, six times,
we're talking the same years.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
One of them didn't even make it through the warm
up cycle and the cam was in the oil pan.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yep. Another one had lifter problems. Six motors, one vehicle,
and we made nothing on this car by the time
we got done. Other than we it's a great customer
and it took a lot of time to get it done.
But we're just done with the what they are now.
Chrysler has them rebuilt by their own rebuilder that are certified,
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and we have a certified builder that they know, and
we have zero problems with anything we have put in
with them. So it is it's an expensive repair. It
all depends on how good that truck is and how
how much you really like it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
But well, see he bought the truck. It was a
great body, knowing that there might have been something wrong
with the motor, but it's there's no rust, it's in
beautiful shape. And the thing was as the guy told
him that his daughter put in diesel into the game
as motor and ran it. And I guess we didn't
know how much damage that would do. But obviously that
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must not work too well to run out a while with.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It right for a while. Yeah, if you if you
know what you did, and shut it down quick and
drain it out and start it back up. And we've
done We've done hundreds, Oh god, we've done hundreds and
hundreds of those with no issue at all. So yeah,
that's but if you keep prolonging it, yeah, yeah, unfortunately,
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that's just the again. We just had zero comebacks when we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Have Dealer motors, good quality, rebuilt engine.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah we do.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Okay, Well, thanks a lot, guys, you bet I have
a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You too, appreciate the call. We're going to take a
quick break on the Mister Mechanics show five to five,
eight eleven, tens and numbers to get in. We've got
an open line for you. We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Boy. So I flattened all your tires to conduct to
all your wires. Then I start a banana in your Tailbie,
I didn't let your hood when I told you it
was good. Then I farted in your seat.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh man, that drive.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The best thing about being mean mechanic is when you
break down. I don't Patrick Gale.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Bob whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Oh, I'm totally crazier, totally lazier and kind of hazer
from the Fifth of Jack I drank now, I'm kind
of buzzed in your cattle like greasy hands, greasy pants
on your leather seats. Man, I'm a mean macannock. Whoa,
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Speaker 1 (10:03):
Denise's on the phone. She's got oh eight Malibu. You've
got a question about the rack opinion, Denise.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Go ahead, Yeah, thank you, thank you. Uh, it's actually
for my son and you guys also resolved Toyota nineteen
set old Toyota for my deaf son and he's riding
that thing. It's running great guns.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So he bought this car for one thousand dollars. It
had a steering issue, you know, like the power steering. Okay,
you might know something about that, but it found out
the impact somehow messed up the rack and pinion, so
it's affecting the steering. I just want to know, is
that a Is that? The thing about it is it's
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a salvage car and I'm trying to tell him you're
gonna you're gonna buy the part. I just want to know.
Is that an easy fixed or you know, fairly easy?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Is it worth?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
One quick question I have about the car, because this
is kind of a split era for this car. Is
it Is it fluid driven.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Or is it an electronic rack? Opinion?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Now that I don't know, but the he said he
couldn't figure out. He couldn't just change the power steering pump,
he said, so that would mean it's electric driven.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right, more likely, more than likely. If you can't find
a reservoir for fluid, then it's all turned to electronic,
which just makes it a little more difficult. Yeah, I'm
a little more complicated.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, can he get the rack and pinion in
and out of there on his own?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm sure, I.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Mean, yeah, he's going to do that. But I was wondering,
I said, you know, is it even worth it? He said, well,
I know I could do that, mom. But then I thought,
it's a self itch car.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean if the rest of the car was fixed, right,
I mean, I mean, and he can do that much
of the work himself.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But here's the it's going to have to be programmed.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Right, Yeah, that's what Okay, Now he did. He did
change something out. He went and got something that you
pull it. So he changed the something, not the rack
and pinion, but whatever it is for the story. And
he was wondering, you know why you need to reprogram it,
I think, and I said, well, maybe you do, you know,
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but I said, I.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Give you guys a called but anyway, well it does.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But some of those and I think we just went
through one of these that when the when the module,
not the when the module goes bad, the electronic control unit,
not the rack opinion, the piece the electronic piece that
drives the rack opinion, when that goes bad. You can't
really go get a used one and just plug another
number in there. It doesn't work that way. They have
to come back. Oh, you got to come brand new.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
I think that's what he did. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'll tell him that when used one, it's got another
VIN number in it, and the manufacturer can make it
so that it's then specific. Therefore you can't switch them
from car to car. Because we just had one of
these the other day. We had to buy a new
one from General Motors, which comes blank. It doesn't know
what car is supposed to go into. That's why you
have to program and tell it it's an O eight
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Chevy Malibu. Otherwise it could it could be.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
So I think he did that. So he tried to
reprogram and he said he couldn't do it, and that's
why a specific.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Tools, specific diagnostic stuff.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Good good, Okay, I will pass that to him and
then I don't know, maybe after he replaces a the
rack and pinion will maybe that's not the deal.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Sure it could be.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
You should do that first before the rack and pinion.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right, Well, I mean it is, you know, because you
said it was in a collision and that affected the
rack opinion. So anytime that there's a collision, I think
worm gears in there broken something eternal anaicle is broken.
That's an aspect I mean that you can't skip around.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You gotta do a visual inspection on it, and then
you've got to fix what you know is broke. There
may be more, but you have to fix what you
physically know is broken. Physically can see whether that solves
a complete problem or whether that's the first step into
the problem.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I know it. Anyway, he's not driving it.
He just went ahead and borrowed his brother's truck.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But well, even if.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It doesn't get fixed, I mean he can just run
at manual and just have really strong arms. I mean
you have to go to the gym. He could just
drive this car around, saying, you know, a big.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Old facts built upright, and he was driving it for
about a week.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
But it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Gets old, it gets very we are all we are
so completely lazy with the power steering. We wouldn't even
know what to do. You know, if we had to
go back to the old tractor steering, as I call it.
I've got a couple of cars like that. You got,
I know what you're doing the steering wheels big.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Yeah, he said.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
After he put that part in, it works good for
about an hour and then it starts to get weird again.
So he shuts it off, and then it works good
for about twenty minutes. It goes back and forth. After
he had changed that part, and he said, I need
to reprogram it. I don't even know if he tried
to reprogram it, but he shouldn't even try after what
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you guys told me about that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't unless he's got specific tools. Whatever his programming
did didn't work.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah, because okay, so then it's that part expensive, the
one that you change that he changed. So he spent
one hundred and eleven dollars if you pull it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think this was somewhere in the seven to fifty range.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
He said, I think it's like a seven hundred dollars
a new one. I said, okay, you need to take
that back because he's got thirty days. He can take
that back and get get the money I owned him.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm sure there's something I was broken. Get some Yeah,
they'll give you credit.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, good, good, good, Okay, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You appreciate that. Yeah, it's uh, you know, electronic power
steering is just a whole new ball of wax. It's
not terribly difficult to fix. You just have to have the.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There's certain procedures to it, and you know it's cars
are becoming not like a shade tree mechanic game anymore.
I mean, it's just no, everything is a lot more
detailed than I mean I think it needs to be.
But I mean it's it all makes sense at the
end of the day, why certain things like that have
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to be programmed, why they have these things in place.
I mean, I'm working on a ford today that you know,
the power steering isn't working at all and it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Needs an angle sensor.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But to get to this angle sensor like underneath the dashers,
that motor that kind of it looks like a window motor,
but much bigger, much larger, a lot of gears. Well,
it needs to know this angle sensor or torque sensor
is what initiates this thing to want to work. If
it doesn't see it turning, it doesn't know you're trying
to turn the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, you know exactly. And we had one in the
other day that had been bumped a curb and the
angle sensor was at five hundred and sixty yeah, and
the trans attraction control was on. It was going in
and out and wanting to do all sorts of funny things,
and we did a reset to it and brought it
back to zero and light went out and everything steered great. Now,
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as I told him, I don't know if this is
a a We tested over it a couple of times
and it was fine, but I don't know if this
is a day fix or the next curb fix. Yeah,
or it's a year fix or forever fix.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean, there's so many of those scenarios that we
see week in and week out that yeah, there's no
part necessary to fix it. It just needs to be calibrated,
or we learned.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And we just you know, the funny one that we
had this week was and there's always something new. As
we were talking off the air, it's always something new
every day, every week, for sure. Sometimes every day. We
changed a battery on a toe to Rev four and
just very instantly it was five years old. It was
time to change this battery and we repair that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Any guy, you know, with tools and capability would be like,
I'll just do this myself.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, no trouble. And as soon as we got done,
the the uh the impotainment center and the radio would
come on and off and on and off and on
and off, and it's just there. Change in the battery
is very very simple. So what we finally figured out
was after a little bit of research, is that you
have to put the car it got, you know, to
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start the car, you got to put the car on
in accessory mode and then just put the gear shift
in reverse and let it sit for ten minutes. So
that's what we did. We just turned the car on,
put the gears shift in ten minutes, then in reverse
ten minutes. So the camp was on, and we walked
away and did something else to the car, came back
and then it had relearned itself and everything was fine.
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Who put that in the manual? And I mean, imagine
this sage on the manual was that it's not it
is not in the manual.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Imagine that. So, I mean, I know that when you
guys saw that, you swallowed your spit. Now imagine the
guy at home that just put his battery and in
the driveway and this is happening. And I mean, the
first thing I'm doing, I'm shutting the thing down. I'm
throwing the keys on the counter. Let the old lady
take it. I'm gonna blame her, you know, I mean,
you're just trying to get out of it, because.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now something's broke.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Something broke, and when you see a digital screen, you
immediately know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's not cheap. Yeah, it's either going to be a
quick reset or it's going to be ugly on the
other side. And the repair from what the research that
I did on this particular vehicle is that if it
turns out to be a screen or a module or
something else, it's a dumb, ugly repair. And I mean, like,
how much is the cost of that repair about it?
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It's it's the price of the cars. So yeah, it
can be very, very expensive. So you gotta be careful.
That's what we're after. You can't just go flipping flipping
new batteries in without And that's the first time we've
ever had that happen. Oh yeah, ever on any car whatsoever.
So but I'm sure there's other models. But at least
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the engineer left and out. Good for him. Usually we
were beating up on those guys a little bit, but
this time, the guy that designed it left and out. Yeah,
and now we know what they out is. Mike's got
a battery story similar to ours. Mike, what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh man? You guys made me laugh. I had just
a quick comment. I did a twenty twelve FOURD escape
battery on my wife's car. And when I got done,
I drove it and it started, you know, bogging down
and jittered jump in and I'm like, what in the heck? Oh,
it was changed the battery. And of course she was
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blaming me, like you guys said, I just wanted to
be like, man, I just changed the battery, and that's
exactly what I had to like.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What it was.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
But there was a sequence of turning off and on
the ignition to reset something, I was like, holy cow,
it was a battery.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, I know, and I hate to admit it,
but there are some vehicles that we will take two
batteries to change the And I know people aren't gonna
they're not gonna like this, but I'm gonna tell you anyway,
we changed these batteries live. We'll start the car and
run it and to have somebody hold the cables why
we changed the battery. And that's and I'll tell you
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what it works. It works. It works, and we have
a few, if any problems. And this was a car
that we normally would have done that too, But have
ever experienced that particular thing on that car? I can
tell you the next time one comes in. We're gonna
we're gonna change it live and we're going to see
when the car is running and you do it pretty quickly.
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You have two people doing it, uh, and we're going
to see how that turns out. Because I've never had
any kind of electronic glitch problem or anything else along
that line. And we change a lot of batteries. So
just a little bit of it, just a little for thought.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That just made me laugh when you guys said that,
because there was getting blamed.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, it get getting blamed and you're doing the most
simple thing in the world, and it just it just
turns south in a hurried It's like, what did I do?
I know what I did? Now, how do I get
out of it?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Right? Appreciate the call, Mike, Yeah, great show, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You bet We're gonna over to Rod. Rod's got a
nineteen four Runner. Rod, what's up today?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I got you bother We can hear you, Okay. I
drive it and said maintenance maintenance required soon and then
it went to maintenance required now. I took it into
where I bought it because I only had it a
couple of months, and uh, it came back they said
(23:17):
it had three codes, and uh, they said leave it
with us, and they called me and said it was done.
And they said the only code they could find was
a PEE sixteen oh four and then the battery had
whoa boldage and they couldn't get it to start. But
I've never had that problem with it at all. And uh,
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driving at home, it came back maintenance required and I
got no check engine lights or nothing on.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
And the more I.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Drive it, the more the maintenance required light comes on.
He said, I needed to drive it more to charge
the battery. But I drive it twenty minutes to work
every day. That ain't enough to charge the battery.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, but something doesn't sound right. A maintenance acquired light.
That's that's an oil change. That's uh, maintenance required. Soon
is telling you it's coming up maintenance required now, is it?
It's over top of the mileage that that's what it
sounds like. It needs the it needs the maintenance or
the oil change light reset.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Yeah, that's what they said too, because I had the
oil changed on it. And uh, I'm I'm at a loss.
Is that a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, No, it's not. It's not a huge problem. My
guess is that the low voltage code they had in
it was they had the key on while they were
trying to figure out what the problem is. Sounds to
me like you have you just need to reset the
maintenance light. You know how to do that.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
No, it doesn't really say in the owner Spaniel that
I've seen. So if it doesn't even tell you how
to change the oil.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It just take it to Yeah, stop by one of
the stations. We'll uh, we'll walk out side and reset
it for you. Stop buy and say hi. It's it's easy.
It's easy to do. Yeah, very simple.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's tough for me to tell you on the phone
because there's there's a few procedures, a few things you
got to punch and do and this and that and
the other. So there's not enough time here in the radio.
But yeah, I stop by one of the stations and
talk to Bob or Kyle and we'll help you out.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Okay around there Wednesday, yep, all right, I'll see you wednesday.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
All right, thanks, Rod, appreciate you. Bet. All right, we're
gonna head over to Archie. Archie has got a thirteen
GMC arcadia Archie. What's up today?
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Well, I'll talking about minding because say, while I'm minding it, uh,
this guy was viving it and the place that he
worked at they told me about get rid of the
GMC and get afford. So I went to the village
ship where was that? And they wanted they want six
(25:58):
thousand dollars for it. And there's a twenty thirteen with
one hundred and seventy nine thousand miles on it. Okay,
so I googled it and just said on the last
the motive would probably last about two hundred thousand. Then
you shall have a problem with it. Is that true
or not?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, that all depends on maintenance. That all depends on maintenance,
But that depends on what they've had done to that car.
I will tell you that car is a great car
for Kyle and I. We love fixing those cars because.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
By now they're easy to us.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
They're easy to us, and they break like crazy. I
don't know how good they're going to be for you,
but yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
They already for my daughter. I tell you about the
Human Society at Omaha, and she worked out to the base,
so she's doing about it. I don't know about twenty
five miles.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, and they can be they can be good cars.
But you have to go with what Kyle said is
that it depends on what they've done. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I this car have to be maintained. You change that oil,
three thousand miles on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The dot, they got timing, chain problems, rack and pinion,
catalytic converter, power steering pump, water pump.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Not to mention your nettion codes that just come and
go as they please, shut the whole thing down.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, electronics and okay, is.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
That pretty hard to maintain.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, we don't know where we're at with this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, it's miles on it, So it all depends on
what somebody's done before you. Yeah, and I'll.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
See where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean you could you could have got
you could have got Grandma's car and.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
God have a lot of wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, yeah, I mean one hundred and eighty seven that'll
that could be a lot of highway miles, which is
very very easy on a vehicle, or that could be
one hundred and eighty seven intown miles, which is extremely
hard on just about everything. So yeah, it boils down.
Every car boils down to the maintenance. There are some
cars that we would never recommend to buy. But if
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somebody has bought that car and maintain it from day
one to the day they got rid of it, it
could be a great car for somebody.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
So should I.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Recommend that call what you should ask for the records
and you should have a mechanic go to look at it.
Don't buy anything that that you don't have. Somebody independently
go take a look at it. And if they're not
willing to say, uh, yep, you can take it and
go look at it. If they say, yeah, we had
our mechanic, look at it, go find something else because
they got something to hide.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Okay, I have one more questions ask you about Honda.
Is a Hama a.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Good fun to buy, great car to buy? It is great.
It's a great car to buy, except for let the
thing I just told you there. Make sure you try
to get as much of the maintenance records as you
can and have it checked out by somebody. But if
that if that Honda, a Honda is a car that
you can maintain it halfway and it still runs.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, less than halfway in some case. Yeah, more these
with no oil than anything else.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yes, you can, Yeah, you can. You can Hanta until
you can very minimally maintain one of those vehicles. No
run for two hundred thousand miles.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Okay, why okay, I come Ahnda on a lot compboard
in on cors For.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What we just said.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
They are reliable, they are easy to maintain, they have
a track record that speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
They are essentially if you do you're recommended maintenance. They're
a no brainer, easy car to maintain. You're not going
to have the problems that you're going to have with
some of these other throwaway cars out there and in
you know, the European market I don't like, but I mean,
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you're not going to have the problems.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, and people know that, so it's supply in demand.
So I have I have a Honda that I bought
many years ago, probably five six years ago. It's just
an old, uh runabout car. But I can sell that
car today for what I bought it for five years ago,
I know, because of the quality of the vehicle. And
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that's why I'm not going to sell it because so
that that's why. Oh yeah, but you get what you
paid for. So you can you could go buy a
Suzuki and you get which paid for. Yeah, so it's
it's supply and demand and you get which paid for. Okay,
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you bet Archie appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So let's talk a little bit more about this. Since
it's the end of the hour. I'll make it quick.
Kyle's case study review here, getting back on this. So
twenty fourteen Equinox two four. You know echo to motor
that everybody loves.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We've worked on a few thousand of those.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, so it comes in P one one. This car's
got ninety seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Miles on it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, original intake, manifold, original valve cover, original.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Turbo charge m so all potentials. This is a stored code,
by the way, okay history code, which means this code
set and then had three successful test drives cold to
hot where it didn't set, so it stored the code away.
(31:36):
Just put this back here. We saw that, We'll just
put it back yep. Anomenaly, So the check engine lights on,
so I opened the hood. I'm looking at this thing.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I've got three pretty easy targets to throw a rock at, right,
and so I test the valve cover, which we know
they leak air. Not leaking original valve cover.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay, yes, let me go to the intake manifold. Has
the detent sucked through there? Do we have an open
port in er intake manifilm. Nope, still there, great shape.
Test drive it. Looking at fuel trims. We know it
won't set a light until positive thirty five short term
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fuel trim. This is a little bit above you guys,
but some people will get this. So I'm driving it.
It's fine fuel trim, staying at four, going down the road,
sitting at idle. I catch it twice, letting off the
throttle dcell two to one down shift. It goes fifty
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two positive hm hmm, clear to the end of its spectrum.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It can't be any leaner. I could take the intake
manifold off, it'll be that lean Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Drive it again, same thing. So I'm thinking, you know
what's happening here? Mess around with the perd solenoid A
little bit, nothing, nothing at all. Look through their glove box,
you know, start talking about history. We put a throttle
body on this car a year or so ago. Okay,
you look at freeze frame. The first time of this
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thing set was you know, fourteen hundred miles ago. It
was the first time that saw this instance. You know,
now I'm seeing it down the road. It may not
have even set a light. But the first time that
this computer saw, hey, there might be something happening. Take
it and drive it again. Nothing, Drive it again, nothing.
Then it happens on DSL two to one downshift. So
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I look at VVT. Is the intake VVT sticking on?
Sure it's working fine. Everything seems to be fine. The
throttle body was the issue.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
So that throttle body coming down to an idol where
it would downshift. You know, you're basically at a stop
at that point, has to be below twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Percent shut more or less. It's because you got your
foot off the gas.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
But it has to be above nine percent. So this
switching or this butterfly in here was dropping to three
to six percent, way below the ring.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Before it would recover. It was back to.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Physically running lean. The car ran great. The computer thought
that this thing was slam shut, shortened injector time to
almost nothing, almost, you know, as minimum as it could.
That set a leading code and it would only happen
for I caught it at maybe two milliseconds.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, and that right there is why it's a little
bit tough to fix your car. Sometimes
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Stop in and see us, and we'll get you back
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(01:26):
days ago, it was summer. How we're back to winter. Yeah,
a couple of days, we'll be back to summer again. Yeah,
it's just this time of.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Year, three or four fake seasons, and then you know
we'll get into blistering hot heat.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Stop. Yeah, that's just what happens. It is, it is. Yeah,
it's just part of what we do. So you know,
you gotta that's why you gotta maintain that. You can't
just pour water in when you think so. I mean,
you gotta could freeze the next day around here.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, that's a game a Russian rouletter place.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, pretty much filled.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
My radiator with water a few days ago. It's like, okay,
so we've had eighty degrees, we've had twenty seven, So
is it frozen or is it boiling?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I've already getting a couple of air conditioning calls.
Oh yeah, we've done a few, Yeah already, it's uh
it didn't work when they wanted to turn it on,
and mles, well, get it fixed now, why it's cold.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It takes you know, I'm well into you know, may
at least and before the air conditioner kicks out in
the car. Yeah, you know, I'll do a trial run.
You know, Hey, is it going to work when I
need it?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Cool and me shut it back off and hit the windows.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But you got a black you got a white car. Yeah,
if you've ever had a black car, you've got them
on in January. Oh yeah, just because that car soaks
up so much heat.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Cars get hot.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I did not like that. I got rid of that car.
Did not like that. I'm not going to get into
the black car.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I remember that Mustang I had years and years and
years ago. It was black and it was I mean,
it was not a nice Mustang. I don't mistake this
by any pa. I'm selling it high. But anyway, so
we had a built engine, headers, the whole deal of
painted black. You know how hot that thing got?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, it's like the old corvettes with
a transmission hump right there and just bake your right
hand leg or left.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, the passenger window quit work I felt like I
was in an air fryer. I'm about to just smash
the glass out of this thing.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
A little bit of crispy in the morning. Oh, let's
head over to Cliff. Cliff's got a twenty twelve Dodge Ram. Cliff,
what's up today?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, it's not actually my truck. It's a friend of mine,
but we work together, and so I told him, Hey,
I'll call mister mechanic and he might have an answer
for you. So, first of all, I appreciate I love
your show.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Guys, So you bet well, we'll try to help you out.
Then you can decide just what you want to tell him.
How's that? We got it?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Okay? So he's got that twenty twelve Ram three quarter
ton with a five point seven Hemi in it and
the motors. The motor's locked up, and so he's looking
for another motor, and we're having a tough time trying
to find one. But the reason being is people are
saying that if you take a twenty twelve half ton
with the same motor that we're hearing two stories. They're
(04:11):
saying the changeability of those two motors, there's gonna be
a lot more work put in rather than a straight fit.
I didn't know if you guys know that answer or not.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So are you trying to are you trying to get
a used one or just rebuilding?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah, we're looking for a used motor. And they say
the same year with a five point seven, but it's
a half ton. We're hearing from some mechanics or some
people who are think they're mechanics, that the interchangeability of
from a three quarter ton and a half ton it's
not just going to fit right in as far as
because they're talking. Some say something with the cams, some
(04:49):
saying the wiring and sensors and stuff. So I didn't
know if you guys knew any answer to that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know, I have run across and I do know
there is a difference because I do have somebody at
work that has a twenty five hundred, and then they
also have a a smaller, you know, vehicle that has
just a regular five to seven HEMI in it, and
there is a difference. To tell you specifically what there is,
you know, I don't know because I'm not that deep
into mopart to be able to tell you how you
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know what will fit here what won't fit here? Kind
of like when you used to take one heads off
of one Ford and put them on a different Ford
kind of thing. But there are differences, but I just
can't specifically tell you what they are.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's going to be an internal thing, probably.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Something to do with I would say duration.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Is going to be another thing, because anytime you're talking
three quarter ton, you need to make a lot of torque. Yeah,
and I mean yeah, there are essentially. I mean we think,
you know, five to seven five seven, they're the same engine,
but they're built different. Yeah, and it's always been that way.
I mean, go back to the small block Chevy. The
car three fifty and the truck three fifty were totally
(05:59):
different engine, same displacement, just different design. So yeah, I
mean you're gonna run into some problems. And trust me,
that's not a job you want to gamble with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let's see if it were. Yeah, you just you run
into problem after problem after problem. And I tell you what,
anytime we've run across this and we've got engines locked
up or a bad I've gotten to the point that
I don't use any used engines at all on this
(06:30):
particular vehicle. In fact, I don't even use any rebuilt
engines on this vehicle anymore. The only engine that will
put in is something that comes straight from the dealship.
And here's the reason why we have put engines in.
I mean, how many how many? How many engines did
you do from a rebuilder here in town on one
(06:53):
for on one Dodge pickup six six one car, six times,
we're talking the same years.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
One of them didn't even make it through the warm
up cycle and the cam was in the oil pan.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yep. Another one had lifter problems. Six motors, one vehicle,
and we made nothing on this car by the time
we got done. Other than we it's a great customer
and it took a lot of time to get it done.
But we're just done with the what they are now.
Chrysler has them rebuilt by their own rebuilder that are certified,
(07:28):
and we have a certified builder that they know, and
we have zero problems with anything we have put in
with them. So it is it's an expensive repair. It
all depends on how good that truck is and how
how much you really like it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
But well, see he bought the truck. It was a
great body, knowing that there might have been something wrong
with the motor, but it's there's no rust, it's in
beautiful shape. And the thing was as the guy told
him that his daughter put in diesel into the game
as motor and ran it. And I guess we didn't
know how much damage that would do. But obviously that
(08:06):
must not work too well to run out a while with.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It right for a while. Yeah, if you if you
know what you did, and shut it down quick and
drain it out and start it back up. And we've
done We've done hundreds, Oh god, we've done hundreds and
hundreds of those with no issue at all. So yeah,
that's but if you keep prolonging it, yeah, yeah, unfortunately,
(08:29):
that's just the again. We just had zero comebacks when we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Have Dealer motors, good quality, rebuilt engine.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah we do.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Okay, Well, thanks a lot, guys, you bet I have
a good day.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You too, appreciate the call. We're going to take a
quick break on the Mister Mechanics show five to five,
eight eleven, tens and numbers to get in. We've got
an open line for you. We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Boy. So I flattened all your tires to conduct to
all your wires. Then I start a banana in your Tailbie,
I didn't let your hood when I told you it
was good. Then I farted in your seat.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh man, that drive.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The best thing about being mean mechanic is when you
break down. I don't Patrick Gale.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Bob whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Oh, I'm totally crazier, totally lazier and kind of hazer
from the Fifth of Jack I drank now, I'm kind
of buzzed in your cattle like greasy hands, greasy pants
on your leather seats. Man, I'm a mean macannock. Whoa,
(09:46):
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Speaker 1 (10:03):
Denise's on the phone. She's got oh eight Malibu. You've
got a question about the rack opinion, Denise.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Go ahead, Yeah, thank you, thank you. Uh, it's actually
for my son and you guys also resolved Toyota nineteen
set old Toyota for my deaf son and he's riding
that thing. It's running great guns.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So he bought this car for one thousand dollars. It
had a steering issue, you know, like the power steering. Okay,
you might know something about that, but it found out
the impact somehow messed up the rack and pinion, so
it's affecting the steering. I just want to know, is
that a Is that? The thing about it is it's
(10:50):
a salvage car and I'm trying to tell him you're
gonna you're gonna buy the part. I just want to know.
Is that an easy fixed or you know, fairly easy?
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Is it worth?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
One quick question I have about the car, because this
is kind of a split era for this car. Is
it Is it fluid driven.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Or is it an electronic rack? Opinion?
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Now that I don't know, but the he said he
couldn't figure out. He couldn't just change the power steering pump,
he said, so that would mean it's electric driven.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right, more likely, more than likely. If you can't find
a reservoir for fluid, then it's all turned to electronic,
which just makes it a little more difficult. Yeah, I'm
a little more complicated.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, can he get the rack and pinion in
and out of there on his own?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'm sure, I.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Mean, yeah, he's going to do that. But I was wondering,
I said, you know, is it even worth it? He said, well,
I know I could do that, mom. But then I thought,
it's a self itch car.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean if the rest of the car was fixed, right,
I mean, I mean, and he can do that much
of the work himself.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But here's the it's going to have to be programmed.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Right, Yeah, that's what Okay, Now he did. He did
change something out. He went and got something that you
pull it. So he changed the something, not the rack
and pinion, but whatever it is for the story. And
he was wondering, you know why you need to reprogram it,
I think, and I said, well, maybe you do, you know,
(12:23):
but I said, I.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Give you guys a called but anyway, well it does.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But some of those and I think we just went
through one of these that when the when the module,
not the when the module goes bad, the electronic control unit,
not the rack opinion, the piece the electronic piece that
drives the rack opinion, when that goes bad. You can't
really go get a used one and just plug another
number in there. It doesn't work that way. They have
to come back. Oh, you got to come brand new.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
I think that's what he did. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'll tell him that when used one, it's got another
VIN number in it, and the manufacturer can make it
so that it's then specific. Therefore you can't switch them
from car to car. Because we just had one of
these the other day. We had to buy a new
one from General Motors, which comes blank. It doesn't know
what car is supposed to go into. That's why you
have to program and tell it it's an O eight
(13:16):
Chevy Malibu. Otherwise it could it could be.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
So I think he did that. So he tried to
reprogram and he said he couldn't do it, and that's
why a specific.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Tools, specific diagnostic stuff.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Good good, Okay, I will pass that to him and
then I don't know, maybe after he replaces a the
rack and pinion will maybe that's not the deal.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Sure it could be.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
You should do that first before the rack and pinion.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Right, Well, I mean it is, you know, because you
said it was in a collision and that affected the
rack opinion. So anytime that there's a collision, I think
worm gears in there broken something eternal anaicle is broken.
That's an aspect I mean that you can't skip around.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You gotta do a visual inspection on it, and then
you've got to fix what you know is broke. There
may be more, but you have to fix what you
physically know is broken. Physically can see whether that solves
a complete problem or whether that's the first step into
the problem.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, I know it. Anyway, he's not driving it.
He just went ahead and borrowed his brother's truck.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But well, even if.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It doesn't get fixed, I mean he can just run
at manual and just have really strong arms. I mean
you have to go to the gym. He could just
drive this car around, saying, you know, a big.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Old facts built upright, and he was driving it for
about a week.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
But it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Gets old, it gets very we are all we are
so completely lazy with the power steering. We wouldn't even
know what to do. You know, if we had to
go back to the old tractor steering, as I call it.
I've got a couple of cars like that. You got,
I know what you're doing the steering wheels big.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Yeah, he said.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
After he put that part in, it works good for
about an hour and then it starts to get weird again.
So he shuts it off, and then it works good
for about twenty minutes. It goes back and forth. After
he had changed that part, and he said, I need
to reprogram it. I don't even know if he tried
to reprogram it, but he shouldn't even try after what
(15:23):
you guys told me about that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't unless he's got specific tools. Whatever his programming
did didn't work.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Yeah, because okay, so then it's that part expensive, the
one that you change that he changed. So he spent
one hundred and eleven dollars if you pull it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think this was somewhere in the seven to fifty range.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
He said, I think it's like a seven hundred dollars
a new one. I said, okay, you need to take
that back because he's got thirty days. He can take
that back and get get the money I owned him.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm sure there's something I was broken. Get some Yeah,
they'll give you credit.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, good, good, good, Okay, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You appreciate that. Yeah, it's uh, you know, electronic power
steering is just a whole new ball of wax. It's
not terribly difficult to fix. You just have to have the.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There's certain procedures to it, and you know it's cars
are becoming not like a shade tree mechanic game anymore.
I mean, it's just no, everything is a lot more
detailed than I mean I think it needs to be.
But I mean it's it all makes sense at the
end of the day, why certain things like that have
(16:45):
to be programmed, why they have these things in place.
I mean, I'm working on a ford today that you know,
the power steering isn't working at all and it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Needs an angle sensor.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But to get to this angle sensor like underneath the dashers,
that motor that kind of it looks like a window motor,
but much bigger, much larger, a lot of gears. Well,
it needs to know this angle sensor or torque sensor
is what initiates this thing to want to work. If
it doesn't see it turning, it doesn't know you're trying
to turn the steering wheel.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, you know exactly. And we had one in the
other day that had been bumped a curb and the
angle sensor was at five hundred and sixty yeah, and
the trans attraction control was on. It was going in
and out and wanting to do all sorts of funny things,
and we did a reset to it and brought it
back to zero and light went out and everything steered great. Now,
(17:38):
as I told him, I don't know if this is
a a We tested over it a couple of times
and it was fine, but I don't know if this
is a day fix or the next curb fix. Yeah,
or it's a year fix or forever fix.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean, there's so many of those scenarios that we
see week in and week out that yeah, there's no
part necessary to fix it. It just needs to be calibrated,
or we learned.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And we just you know, the funny one that we
had this week was and there's always something new. As
we were talking off the air, it's always something new
every day, every week, for sure. Sometimes every day. We
changed a battery on a toe to Rev four and
just very instantly it was five years old. It was
time to change this battery and we repair that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Any guy, you know, with tools and capability would be like,
I'll just do this myself.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, no trouble. And as soon as we got done,
the the uh the impotainment center and the radio would
come on and off and on and off and on
and off, and it's just there. Change in the battery
is very very simple. So what we finally figured out
was after a little bit of research, is that you
have to put the car it got, you know, to
(18:45):
start the car, you got to put the car on
in accessory mode and then just put the gear shift
in reverse and let it sit for ten minutes. So
that's what we did. We just turned the car on,
put the gears shift in ten minutes, then in reverse
ten minutes. So the camp was on, and we walked
away and did something else to the car, came back
and then it had relearned itself and everything was fine.
(19:08):
Who put that in the manual? And I mean, imagine
this sage on the manual was that it's not it
is not in the manual.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Imagine that. So, I mean, I know that when you
guys saw that, you swallowed your spit. Now imagine the
guy at home that just put his battery and in
the driveway and this is happening. And I mean, the
first thing I'm doing, I'm shutting the thing down. I'm
throwing the keys on the counter. Let the old lady
take it. I'm gonna blame her, you know, I mean,
you're just trying to get out of it, because.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Now something's broke.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Something broke, and when you see a digital screen, you
immediately know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's not cheap. Yeah, it's either going to be a
quick reset or it's going to be ugly on the
other side. And the repair from what the research that
I did on this particular vehicle is that if it
turns out to be a screen or a module or
something else, it's a dumb, ugly repair. And I mean, like,
how much is the cost of that repair about it?
(20:04):
It's it's the price of the cars. So yeah, it
can be very, very expensive. So you gotta be careful.
That's what we're after. You can't just go flipping flipping
new batteries in without And that's the first time we've
ever had that happen. Oh yeah, ever on any car whatsoever.
So but I'm sure there's other models. But at least
(20:26):
the engineer left and out. Good for him. Usually we
were beating up on those guys a little bit, but
this time, the guy that designed it left and out. Yeah,
and now we know what they out is. Mike's got
a battery story similar to ours. Mike, what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh man? You guys made me laugh. I had just
a quick comment. I did a twenty twelve FOURD escape
battery on my wife's car. And when I got done,
I drove it and it started, you know, bogging down
and jittered jump in and I'm like, what in the heck? Oh,
it was changed the battery. And of course she was
(21:05):
blaming me, like you guys said, I just wanted to
be like, man, I just changed the battery, and that's
exactly what I had to like.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
What it was.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
But there was a sequence of turning off and on
the ignition to reset something, I was like, holy cow,
it was a battery.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, I know, and I hate to admit it,
but there are some vehicles that we will take two
batteries to change the And I know people aren't gonna
they're not gonna like this, but I'm gonna tell you anyway,
we changed these batteries live. We'll start the car and
run it and to have somebody hold the cables why
we changed the battery. And that's and I'll tell you
(21:49):
what it works. It works. It works, and we have
a few, if any problems. And this was a car
that we normally would have done that too, But have
ever experienced that particular thing on that car? I can
tell you the next time one comes in. We're gonna
we're gonna change it live and we're going to see
when the car is running and you do it pretty quickly.
(22:11):
You have two people doing it, uh, and we're going
to see how that turns out. Because I've never had
any kind of electronic glitch problem or anything else along
that line. And we change a lot of batteries. So
just a little bit of it, just a little for thought.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That just made me laugh when you guys said that,
because there was getting blamed.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, it get getting blamed and you're doing the most
simple thing in the world, and it just it just
turns south in a hurried It's like, what did I do?
I know what I did? Now, how do I get
out of it?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Right? Appreciate the call, Mike, Yeah, great show, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You bet We're gonna over to Rod. Rod's got a
nineteen four Runner. Rod, what's up today?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I got you bother We can hear you, Okay. I
drive it and said maintenance maintenance required soon and then
it went to maintenance required now. I took it into
where I bought it because I only had it a
couple of months, and uh, it came back they said
(23:17):
it had three codes, and uh, they said leave it
with us, and they called me and said it was done.
And they said the only code they could find was
a PEE sixteen oh four and then the battery had
whoa boldage and they couldn't get it to start. But
I've never had that problem with it at all. And uh,
(23:38):
driving at home, it came back maintenance required and I
got no check engine lights or nothing on.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
And the more I.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Drive it, the more the maintenance required light comes on.
He said, I needed to drive it more to charge
the battery. But I drive it twenty minutes to work
every day. That ain't enough to charge the battery.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, but something doesn't sound right. A maintenance acquired light.
That's that's an oil change. That's uh, maintenance required. Soon
is telling you it's coming up maintenance required now, is it?
It's over top of the mileage that that's what it
sounds like. It needs the it needs the maintenance or
the oil change light reset.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Yeah, that's what they said too, because I had the
oil changed on it. And uh, I'm I'm at a loss.
Is that a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, No, it's not. It's not a huge problem. My
guess is that the low voltage code they had in
it was they had the key on while they were
trying to figure out what the problem is. Sounds to
me like you have you just need to reset the
maintenance light. You know how to do that.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
No, it doesn't really say in the owner Spaniel that
I've seen. So if it doesn't even tell you how
to change the oil.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It just take it to Yeah, stop by one of
the stations. We'll uh, we'll walk out side and reset
it for you. Stop buy and say hi. It's it's easy.
It's easy to do. Yeah, very simple.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's tough for me to tell you on the phone
because there's there's a few procedures, a few things you
got to punch and do and this and that and
the other. So there's not enough time here in the radio.
But yeah, I stop by one of the stations and
talk to Bob or Kyle and we'll help you out.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Okay around there Wednesday, yep, all right, I'll see you wednesday.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
All right, thanks, Rod, appreciate you. Bet. All right, we're
gonna head over to Archie. Archie has got a thirteen
GMC arcadia Archie. What's up today?
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Well, I'll talking about minding because say, while I'm minding it, uh,
this guy was viving it and the place that he
worked at they told me about get rid of the
GMC and get afford. So I went to the village
ship where was that? And they wanted they want six
(25:58):
thousand dollars for it. And there's a twenty thirteen with
one hundred and seventy nine thousand miles on it. Okay,
so I googled it and just said on the last
the motive would probably last about two hundred thousand. Then
you shall have a problem with it. Is that true
or not?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, that all depends on maintenance. That all depends on maintenance,
But that depends on what they've had done to that car.
I will tell you that car is a great car
for Kyle and I. We love fixing those cars because.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
By now they're easy to us.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
They're easy to us, and they break like crazy. I
don't know how good they're going to be for you,
but yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
They already for my daughter. I tell you about the
Human Society at Omaha, and she worked out to the base,
so she's doing about it. I don't know about twenty
five miles.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, and they can be they can be good cars.
But you have to go with what Kyle said is
that it depends on what they've done. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I this car have to be maintained. You change that oil,
three thousand miles on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
The dot, they got timing, chain problems, rack and pinion,
catalytic converter, power steering pump, water pump.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Not to mention your nettion codes that just come and
go as they please, shut the whole thing down.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yes, electronics and okay, is.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
That pretty hard to maintain.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, we don't know where we're at with this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, it's miles on it, So it all depends on
what somebody's done before you. Yeah, and I'll.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
See where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean you could you could have got
you could have got Grandma's car and.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
God have a lot of wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, yeah, I mean one hundred and eighty seven that'll
that could be a lot of highway miles, which is
very very easy on a vehicle, or that could be
one hundred and eighty seven intown miles, which is extremely
hard on just about everything. So yeah, it boils down.
Every car boils down to the maintenance. There are some
cars that we would never recommend to buy. But if
(28:06):
somebody has bought that car and maintain it from day
one to the day they got rid of it, it
could be a great car for somebody.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
So should I.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Recommend that call what you should ask for the records
and you should have a mechanic go to look at it.
Don't buy anything that that you don't have. Somebody independently
go take a look at it. And if they're not
willing to say, uh, yep, you can take it and
go look at it. If they say, yeah, we had
our mechanic, look at it, go find something else because
they got something to hide.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Okay, I have one more questions ask you about Honda.
Is a Hama a.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Good fun to buy, great car to buy? It is great.
It's a great car to buy, except for let the
thing I just told you there. Make sure you try
to get as much of the maintenance records as you
can and have it checked out by somebody. But if
that if that Honda, a Honda is a car that
you can maintain it halfway and it still runs.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, less than halfway in some case. Yeah, more these
with no oil than anything else.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yes, you can, Yeah, you can. You can Hanta until
you can very minimally maintain one of those vehicles. No
run for two hundred thousand miles.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Okay, why okay, I come Ahnda on a lot compboard
in on cors For.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What we just said.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
They are reliable, they are easy to maintain, they have
a track record that speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
They are essentially if you do you're recommended maintenance. They're
a no brainer, easy car to maintain. You're not going
to have the problems that you're going to have with
some of these other throwaway cars out there and in
you know, the European market I don't like, but I mean,
(29:55):
you're not going to have the problems.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, and people know that, so it's supply in demand.
So I have I have a Honda that I bought
many years ago, probably five six years ago. It's just
an old, uh runabout car. But I can sell that
car today for what I bought it for five years ago,
I know, because of the quality of the vehicle. And
(30:18):
that's why I'm not going to sell it because so
that that's why. Oh yeah, but you get what you
paid for. So you can you could go buy a
Suzuki and you get which paid for. Yeah, so it's
it's supply and demand and you get which paid for. Okay,
(30:41):
you bet Archie appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So let's talk a little bit more about this. Since
it's the end of the hour. I'll make it quick.
Kyle's case study review here, getting back on this. So
twenty fourteen Equinox two four. You know echo to motor
that everybody loves.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
We've worked on a few thousand of those.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, so it comes in P one one. This car's
got ninety seven thousand.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Miles on it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, original intake, manifold, original valve cover, original.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Turbo charge m so all potentials. This is a stored code,
by the way, okay history code, which means this code
set and then had three successful test drives cold to
hot where it didn't set, so it stored the code away.
(31:36):
Just put this back here. We saw that, We'll just
put it back yep. Anomenaly, So the check engine lights on,
so I opened the hood. I'm looking at this thing.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I've got three pretty easy targets to throw a rock at, right,
and so I test the valve cover, which we know
they leak air. Not leaking original valve cover.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Okay, yes, let me go to the intake manifold. Has
the detent sucked through there? Do we have an open
port in er intake manifilm. Nope, still there, great shape.
Test drive it. Looking at fuel trims. We know it
won't set a light until positive thirty five short term
(32:21):
fuel trim. This is a little bit above you guys,
but some people will get this. So I'm driving it.
It's fine fuel trim, staying at four, going down the road,
sitting at idle. I catch it twice, letting off the
throttle dcell two to one down shift. It goes fifty
(32:43):
two positive hm hmm, clear to the end of its spectrum.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It can't be any leaner. I could take the intake
manifold off, it'll be that lean Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Drive it again, same thing. So I'm thinking, you know
what's happening here? Mess around with the perd solenoid A
little bit, nothing, nothing at all. Look through their glove box,
you know, start talking about history. We put a throttle
body on this car a year or so ago. Okay,
you look at freeze frame. The first time of this
(33:14):
thing set was you know, fourteen hundred miles ago. It
was the first time that saw this instance. You know,
now I'm seeing it down the road. It may not
have even set a light. But the first time that
this computer saw, hey, there might be something happening. Take
it and drive it again. Nothing, Drive it again, nothing.
Then it happens on DSL two to one downshift. So
(33:40):
I look at VVT. Is the intake VVT sticking on?
Sure it's working fine. Everything seems to be fine. The
throttle body was the issue.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
So that throttle body coming down to an idol where
it would downshift. You know, you're basically at a stop
at that point, has to be below twelve.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Percent shut more or less. It's because you got your
foot off the gas.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
But it has to be above nine percent. So this
switching or this butterfly in here was dropping to three
to six percent, way below the ring.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Before it would recover. It was back to.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Physically running lean. The car ran great. The computer thought
that this thing was slam shut, shortened injector time to
almost nothing, almost, you know, as minimum as it could.
That set a leading code and it would only happen
for I caught it at maybe two milliseconds.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, and that right there is why it's a little
bit tough to fix your car. Sometimes
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