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August 11, 2026 14 mins
In Florida, Gators Have Killed Almost 3 Times as Many People as Sharks, Since 1948. This after a Woman, thisd apst Weekend lost her Arm to a Gator Attack in the crystal clear water in Florida's Silver River. Maverick and Lulu were both surprise to learn, way more Gators have killed people than Sharks. It seems more people though, are afraid of Sharks. Several people wanteed to talk about it. LISTEN HERE

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A story that broke on Saturday. Woman in Marion County,
Florida on the Silver River, which is one of those
rivers that people loved to kayak, loved to paddleboard on
because it's crystal clear.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I was showing low some video of it. I mean
it's beautiful. Oh, totally. A woman was attacked by a gator,
lost her arm terrible, and the screams alerted a nearby
boater who came over and saved her life. Was able
to stop the bleeding with a rope off of his boat,
probably a dock line or an anchor line or something
on a bumper for a boat. Drove her to the

(00:32):
ramp and they were able to save her life, but
she'd lost her arm. And in the news interview, the
boat guy said, I've been on this river my entire life,
never seen a gator.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
And so this.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Comes up after we had the woman in June in
Orlando area was killed by the gator and the boyfriend
tried to get her out of the horrific story. Yeah,
And then I was reading about this in Englewood last week.
We had a little Yorkie that was attacked by a gator.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Were able to get the dog out of the gator's mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
It head collapsed, lungs, broken, ribs, ouch, But the dog's
going to be okay after some recovery time. So I
was digging into this alligator thing because we'll talk about
this occasionally, and I saw an article about Floridians take
risks with alligators.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
They're more afraid of sharks.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
So if I had to ask you, are you more
afraid of sharks or alligators?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Probably I'd say shark only, because that seems like the unknown.
If you can't only see a gator, but I don't know,
I guess a shark.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So most people would agree with you. In Florida, most
people are afraid of sharks. They're not as worried about gators.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Since nineteen forty eight, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission has
documented thirty three alligator attacks that were fatal. Since nineteen
forty eight, in Florida, there have only been thirteen fatal
shark attacks.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Look at that. Does that surprise you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Almost three times as many fatal gator attacks as shark attacks. Well.
FWC State of Florida has been tracking gator deaths only
since nineteen forty eight. But just since nineteen forty eight
in Florida, there's been three times as many gator deaths
on people as shark attack deaths. I wouldn't guess that

(02:16):
pretty crazy when you think about it. Huh oh yeah,
Why do you think people are more afraid of sharks
than gators?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And I don't know if this even makes sense, but
it's just what came to my mind is that gators.
We see them, you know, you can see them on
a golf course, you see them, you know, resting on
a lake, sunning them, so you see them more.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
So you're you think you're more aware of them, can
I know?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So that's the thing that's the scary part about it.
But I think people forget about that because you think
you're always going to see them and be okay or
be able to zigzag and run.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I'm curious these rivers because people ask me all the
time because I love to kayak. Have you been up
in any of the springs and you got to do
it in the summer the water's cold. Now I've been
to Jenny Springs. The Silver River looks beautiful. I don't
know if I'm going to kayak there. If we got gators.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Killing people exactly. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm curious, have you ever had an incident or are
you leary about going to some of these springs and
stuff because of stuff like this? This is twice now
we've had one death and somebody lost an arm, and
my attention, are you more afraid of sharks or gators?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
And you had a thought on this.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Ma'am, good morning, I'm calling about your sharks an alligator?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, who's this, Catherine? What are we thinking?

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I'm thinking that really, they have all these movies, even
I'm shark.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
Nato, which is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I don't know any movies about like a panther that
just goes around killing, and then they have a bunch
of those ridiculously placid with the alligators. So I think
it's just a lot of.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
That, just those movies that scare people.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's interesting that you're right, and when it comes to
bears and panthers and cougars, they're not that interesting. And
it's fast to me that it's the gators and the
sharks for the most part. Snakes are starting to become
a little more especially in the Florida with the python angle.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But yeah, yeah, that has to be a big part
of it. I've seen some gators, like on a golf course.
I was walking down a trail one day and I
you were.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
On a trail? Were you lost?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
What were you doing on a nature trail?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
There was one where my ex used to live, and
so he would go and do his thing, and I'm like,
I'm gonna go walk And then in that same trail,
a squirrel almost fell on my head and I.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Ran into a gator.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's why I don't go out on the trails.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, don't go on that big hole in my aca.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Then I've one hundreds of gator there. I won't the
last time I kayakd out of Mayaka. I will tell
you there are days where you don't see many. Yeah,
and then there are days where you just you could
walk on him.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
There's so many. Oh yeah, and they're.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Not scared of you at all.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Oh no, well of course they're not. No, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm going to ride my bike and swim in a pool.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I thought you attle Meyer's one night.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Oh yeah, that's probably a far eighth.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
So you'll go. You're right, that was great.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Have a great day.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Yeah too.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You got a thought on are you more afraid of
sharks or gators? We're fascinated by them both exactly, But
Floridians seem to be more afraid of sharks. But the
gators are killing us way more.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Isn't that something?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
We've had thirty three fatal gator attacks since forty eight
in Florida and only thirteen fatal shark attacks. I think
people are way more scared of sharks.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I think so too. Well, you probably shouldn't be now, sir.
You had something on this.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
I'm calling in about the gator attack. Yeah, oh, I
think it's definitely like a two parter on miserating statistics
as well as like the conservation efforts store creators is
back in like sixty two or so, they put in
the wall to where you can't hunt them out of season,
so they were endangered before that, and then in the
late seventies they had a big population boom, so there's
more greaters.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
In the water.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Do you think that we are just complacent with gators
and we see them on golf courses, we see them
in rivers and stuff, and we just sometimes we get
lackadaisical around them.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
Oh, without a doubt. I mean the number of Yanks
that come down and lose their dogs because they're letting
the little thing run around the pond is crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well that just happened in Englewood with this little Yorky.
I mean you had to collapse, lung, broke some ribs.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
The dog's fine. I don't know if they fought the gator.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Remember you everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Seen a video of that guy pull up dog from
the gator. But that's the thing, the dogs that get
attacked on the river banks, but you got people getting
close all. I mean, has anybody ever seen a gator
launch out of the water. If you're standing on the bank,
you're toast or losing a limb, just like the Oh
you can go.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
To Gatorland and watch them jump like forty feet out
of the water to go grab the meat on the hook.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Wow, More people need to see video like that and
they'll stay away.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Well, I mean, yeah, they're apex feathers.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, but people don't think about them like that.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I don't think I don't think so either.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Well, it's because you got you got more of them
and you have a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
More interaction with them.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Yeah, when you deal with shark sharks and much deeper water.
But alligators are on the land as well as in
a foot of water.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, the thing too about the gators is.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
You've got people that are going to these springs and
this lady was in the crystal clear water and they
didn't see gators there. The lady that got killed in
Orlando in June, they didn't expect a gator there. I
feel like you have to assume if it's water in Florida,
it's fresh or brackish, there's.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
A gator in it. Like you can't think I've never
seen one here. Okay, well now there is.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
Yeah, I'm it's Florida. If there's a body of water,
if the water's away, there's going to.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Be a gator. But not everybody thinks that, No, apparently not.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
I'm from down to everyglad city, so I'm used to
seeing them everywhere, and I don't mess some of them
when they get.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
To certain sides.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, well, even a small one. Can you can lose
a hand or a finger.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
I don't be putting your hand in their mouth.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Advice.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's great advice, Thanks for thank you. Yep, have more
people are afraid of sharks than gators. Yeah, I would be,
and you are as well, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Is that right.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I'm definitely more afraid of sharks. Last time I was
on my boat, I was in the water woming out
by one of the keys, and the shark swam by,
and my husband thought it was funny not to tell
me until we were right behind me. Just a little hammerhead,
but scared.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Just a little hammerhead, well, a little one, probably not
going to mess you up.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
It was a little fun ahead.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's probably not gonna mess with you.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, but still a shark as a shark.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Thank you, I know.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But if it's not big enough to do any damage,
it's just another fish.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
No, but a shark of a shark. You can go
near the gator and it's just gonna run away from you.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
The shark is a shark.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
A gator's gonna run away for you. They might run
at you too, No, I've never seen that.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I don't care about gators. They always run.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Wow, they've run towards Lulu because I don't know if
I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I I'm not around long enough to test that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm not going anywhere near once I notice it, I'm
the other way.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't know, no no gators ever chased me down.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Because I love that video.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I bet man, what you're saying is what I think
most people feel, which is probably why the gator fatalities
are three times as likely and as high as shark fatalities.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
People just they're there. They're so used to seeing them.
You see them more than you see sharks. But you're
being killed by gators three times as high as sharks
in Florida. That's the thing noted you got because just
like sharks, gaters can pop out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
You don't always see them. Look, and they're sneaky. You
have a thought of this.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now you wanted to talk was the gators, ma'am? About
your sharks and alligators?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Not truly afraid of either one of them, but I
have a decent respect for both of them.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Ah. Yeah, I think we've become complacent with alligators, and
it is kind of interesting to know that you're way
more likely to be killed by an alligator than a
shark in Florida, which is I'm a little surprised by that. Well,
I think a.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Lot of it is human error.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You don't go into your ponds where it says there's
alligators and think that you can walk near there and
they're not going to come up there. Well yeah, And
I also think this lady, you know, lost her arm
in Marion County and the guys that I've never seen
gators there. But as I tell anybody that's new to Florida,
if it's a pond of water anywhere, there's a cater there, yes,
you have to assume just because you've never seen one

(10:58):
doesn't mean there is a one there at lurk.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think that's a lot of what happens with these
gator situations, bad injuries or fatalities, is people are just complacent.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, you've got to restruct the animal.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
You never know where he's going to be, never know.
Oh my gosh, they're there. A yeah, yay, careful now.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah bye.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You got a thought on this?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Are you surprised like Lulu was, We've had way more
gator fatalities than shark fatalities in the last seventy years
in Florida. Yep. Have you been kayaking to been on
one of the springs in Florida? You had something on this? Hello, Hi,
who's this Kenzy?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I'm calling about the gator story that you guys just
talked about.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I have a theory.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Okay, so I.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Don't like to go in the water alone because I
feel like if you go in the water where more people,
they have more options. Oh my god, I'm not the
main date.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think you have a career in comedy coming up.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
And you're like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean, she's got a point there. There's two things
in numbers. The more people thrashing about in the water
maybe the less likely something will come around, clearly. But
then there is the option of, well, if there's more people,
your adds go down on getting attacks.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, you know you're smart.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Do you kayak in the lakes?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
No? I'm with you on that one.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's not safe at.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, no, that's for sure. The thing is too Kinsley.
I have seen people, and I was telling Lulu this,
you can't stand up in a kayak or a canoe
unless you're very experienced and you know what you're doing.
I've seen multiple people roll it and come over.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You just can't do it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, do you swim in freshwater lakes? Sometimes Yeah, yeah,
you wouldn't lose no, hung in the pool and I'll
go in up to my waist maybe in the golf
and keep my eyes open.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well to your waist. Yeah, I've done that recently.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh okay, yeah, very daring of me.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Right, I was going to say, get a little crazy,
I know, right, Kinsley, thanks for calling you got It's
a good thing you didn't see Shark Week because they
were doing one of the episodes.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It was on the east coast of Florida. These spinner
sharks coming in into the surf.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
So do you watching that? And in terms of the.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Kayaks and canoes, I remember the last time I was
out of Maaca State Park and I did a day
where I went kayaking or I took.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
A canoe there. Because it's a little more stable.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
When you go out there, you always see people that
have never done it before.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Right, there's gaters everywhere there, and.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So these people are in the shallow area and there's
gaters not far away, and they get scared because they
see the gator. So what do they do? They stand
up and the kayakers over and then then.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Then they're in the water with the gator.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now they were aware it was shallow enough they could
drag it up.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
On shore, but they didn't get back in.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't blame them, but here's the thing. Don't stand
up in a kayaker canoe if you're not comfortable and
you're not familiar and don't know how to do it.
If you're scared, you want to stay seated.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, Wow,
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