Postgame Sports Talk w/ Austin Elmore -- 11/28/25

Austin recaps the Bengals exciting Thanksgiving night win in Baltimore!

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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hi, Hello, and welcome in to a victorious postgame sports
talk here on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty.
Happy Black Friday to you. I hope that you had
a wonderful Thanksgiving. However, you may have spent your Thanksgiving
holiday with your family, whether you were at work, whether

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you were going to your in laws, whether you were
passed out on the couch eating turkey and watching football.
There is a lot to be thankful for in our
everyday lives. But I think all Bengals fans can say
tonight we are thankful for Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow makes
his triumphant return to the gridiron and the Bengals beat

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the Baltimore Ravens thirty two to fourteen at MNT Bank
Stadium in Baltimore. It is never easy to go on
the road in a short week. It is especially never
easy to go on the road in a short week
inside the division in the AF Well, the Bengals, for

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the third straight year played a Thursday primetime game in
Baltimore against the Ravens, and finally they won one.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
They did it on one of the.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Biggest stages, the Thursday night Thanksgiving Night game on the
NFL John Madden Thanksgiving and beat Lamar Jackson and the
Baltimore Ravens. This was an unbelievable game because you didn't
really know what to expect. You didn't know what Burrow
was going to look like. Having not played since the

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second quarter of Week two against Jacksonville. You knew that
Baltimore hasn't been great and Lamar was a little bit
banged up. But he's still Lamar Jackson. He's still electric.
And he showed that a couple of times, and you
really weren't sure if the Bengals defense we saw against
Pittsburgh and New England was an anomaly, wasn't an outlier?

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Was it fools gold or were they legitimate? Well, the
Bengals defense tonight forced five takeaways over the Baltimore Ravens.
The Bengals haven't forced that many takeaways in a game
since two thousand and seven. They did something unthinkable tonight,
forcing fumbles, getting interceptions just all over the field. Joseph

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Osai was magnificent, Miles Murphy was wonderful. Cedric Johnson oh
by the way, on the offensive side of the ball,
Jamar Chase returned from suspension. All he did was catch
seven passes for one hundred plus yards, and the Bengals
scored thirty two points and they didn't get even that
many points off of all the turnovers that they had.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
It was just what a game? What a game like?
It's sweaty.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You never feel comfortable, I don't think because you know
the Bengals defense, you've seen it for most of the season.
But when you really think about it, Baltimore had a
couple of big chunk plays, but they really weren't all
that competitive. Their offense was in shambles. They refused to
run the football and hand up. One of the things

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I'm thankful for is that Todd Munkin didn't run the football.
I mean, Derek Henry had like ten carries for seventy
five yards. He probably could have went for two hundred.
But the Ravens because they were playing from behind, because
the Bengals just kept getting points and getting points and
getting points. It was a strange game. It was an
unexpected outcome, and although the chances remain slim, the Bengals

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are alive. If you think back to this time last year,
Cincinnati was four and eight. Well, with the victory tonight,
they're four and eight. They've got to win their last
five if they want to have a chance to get
into the playoffs. And you can't win the last six
if you don't win the first one. They took care
of that business tonight. We've got so much to get

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to between now and three am. Gonna be on here
until three am on ESPN fifteen thirty and seven hundred WLW.
I'm gonna open up the phone lines at five one, three, seven, four,
nine seven thousand, your reaction to what you saw tonight
in Baltimore, and what's going through your mind as a
Bengals fan right now, Because I know that a lot

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of fans were split on whether or not Joe Burrow
should play, and then some of the answers that Burrow
gave during the week made me think, Ooh, I don't
know if he really is one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I don't know if he is able to go.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then the report of this carbon fiber plate that
he had in the bottom of his cleat and this
tape job he has on his big toe coming out
of surgery, and I don't know what's gonna happen tonight
in this house of whoors that is M and T
Bank Stadium, where Joe Burrow has already had one season
in the injury before. Like a lot of Bengals fans,
I was kind of expecting the worst to happen. I

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wasn't sure what to think, what to expect. And while
it took Joe a little bit of time to knock
the rust off, he knocked it off and the Bengals
were victorious over the Baltimore Ravens. We'll go through all
the stats we'll get some postgame audio if we can
uh to listen to some of that, But I want
to hear from you. If you're still awake, if it's

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a Black Friday, maybe you're gonna be one of those
Black Friday shoppers. Maybe you're a door buster, an early
bird type of person. Do people still do that? I
remember when I was growing up as a kid, Black
Friday was a big deal. People would go out at midnight.
They'd go out till one or two or three o'clock
in the morning. You know, all across the street over
here at the Kenwood Mall. That parking lot looks pretty good.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
People.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Are people still doing that? If you are feel free
call in five one, three, seven, four nine seven thousand,
and you can also tweet it me as well at
Audi Elmore A U T y E L M O
r E. Let me just start with the numbers for
Joe Burrow before we go any further, because I'm sure

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that's what so many of you want to know. Burrow
finished tonight twenty four of forty six. Yes, he threw
the ball forty six times. In his return from turf
toe surgery. He threw it for two hundred and sixty
one yards. That's a five point seven average. He threw

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two touchdowns, no interceptions, He was sacked just one time
and finishes the night with a QB rating of eighty
three point seven. You know, the other part, Joe Burrow
rushed the ball three times. He had three runs. One
was a quarterback sneak, one was a two, one one
was a quarterback sneak, one was a scramble, and one

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was a broken down you know, busted play on an
RPO where he just kind of dove forward for a
couple of yards. He carried the ball three times for
eight yards as well. So the story is both Joe
Burrow returning and also the Bengals defense doing what they did.
You know, I was at one point mesm with what

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I saw, and it felt like over the last couple
of weeks, the defensive coordinator Al Golden has unlocked something
with this defense and primarily putting a bunch of guys
up at the line of scrimmage and some of them
are dropping and some of them are not, and some
of them are coming, and half of them are blitzing
and half of them are dropping. There's all sorts of

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stuff going on and it's confusing offensive lines and it's
giving the Bengals a bit of an advantage. On top
of that, they've tackled better. I think they've been better
on early downs. They've set the edge a lot better
in the run game. I think the edge rushers tonight
and everybody who plays that position tonight, from Cedric Johnson

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to Joseph Oside of Miles Murphy, every single one of
those dudes played really well tonight. And that's without Trey Hendrickson.
It's without Cam Sample, who's one of their better run defenders.
I mean, they're a little bit banged up at that position.
Isaiah Fosky was getting some snaps at one point point
in that unit as a whole played some pretty dog

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on good football and was a big part of why
this team won this game tonight. So we have a
ton to get to between now and three o'clock. We'll
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Speaker 3 (09:59):
Welcome back again.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Two the try Saint Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk Show
on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
My name is Austin Elmore. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Happy Black Friday to you, Happy Victory Friday to you.
As the Bengals beat the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving nights
to get to four and eight now on the season,
phone lines are open five on three seven, four nine,
seven thousand. If you're awake, I want your reaction. What
are you thinking as the Bengals get another victory over

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the Baltimore Ravens tonight in Baltimore. Let's start in Indiana.
Let's talk to Todd. Todd, what's up? You're on the show.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Hey, I just wanted to say I'm a lifelong Bengals fan.
I'm from Cincinnati. My parents moved us to Indianapolis moved
on to Fishers.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
And.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
There are very few Cincinnati Bengals fans in my area.
But I just want to point out one thing that
Miles Murphy ran down that guy and taggled him before
he could score. That guy has some speed on him,

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and I love that, and I love that he didn't quit.
And I hope I'm here to say Bengals can win
out win the Super Bowl. Oh and look's call the year.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, if everybody plays the way Miles Murphy played tonight,
I think they got a chance. I mean, that's a
great observation by you, Todd, because that play could have
gotten away from them. And Murphy was all the way
back at the line of scrimmage and he'd chase down
Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
That's no easy guy to chase.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Down all the way down the field, and the Bengals
ended up getting out of there.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
That's a great point, Todd.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, he's got no quit in his moger.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
And there was a play earlier in the game too,
where he beat Lamar Jackson to the edge on a
scramble and forced him out of bounds before he could
gain any yards.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
That was a big play too.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
That show's hard. Yeah, I love that, and I hope
nothing but the best for Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
I want to see that defense seat getting better and
I want to see the Bengals win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'm right there with you, Todd. You're a believer and
saw am I thank you for the phone call. Thank
you there it is yeah, that you know Todd brings
up a good point. The hustle, the heart of the Bengals.
I mean that is listen, hand up. I've always been
a long time Zach Taylor apologist. One of the things
I think you could hang your hat on if you're
a Zach Taylor guy or if you're Zach Taylor, is

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that at no point throughout any of the crap that
his teams have gone through, have they quit. And the
way that the defense responded, especially after getting embarrassed by
Darnell Washington just kind of tossing them aside like rag
dolls in Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago. They have
responded really well with effort, with energy, with getting better

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at tackling, and overall with all the stuff they've gone through.
Effort has never been an issue for the Bengals, and
I do think that's a positive reflection of the head
coach and his coaching staff, Zach Taylor. Let's go to Middletown.
Let's talk to Beth. What's up, Beth?

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Hi, I just wanted to say this Bengals victory was
the start to a fantastic football weekend for us, because
not only do we love our Bengals, but this is
a big weekend because we're from Middletown. The Middletown Midies
are going to face the Saint Xavier Bombers. We're heading
to Welcome Stadium tomorrow night to watch this and then Saturday,

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we hope that our Ohio State Buckeyes beat that team
up north. So this Dingles victory was a great start
to an amazing football weekend for us.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That could be a good sign.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know that not a lot of people are giving
Middletown a chance against say next Not a lot of
people gave the Bengals a chance tonight against the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Maybe the Middies.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Will do it exactly exactly. We're going to cheer those
Midies on, cold and all. We're going to be there
at Welcome Stadium tomorrow night. So let's hope that this
Ingles victory is just the jump start. Yeah to a
fantastic football weekend for us.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, let's hope it is Beth. Thank you for the
phone call. Enjoy the football, and good luck to your middies.
Thank you, all right, that is Beth in Middletown. Yeah,
gonna be a great football weekend. I mean, there's a
great NFL game kicking off in fifteen hours from right now,
thirteen hours from fourteen hours from right now, whatever it is.

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The Bears and Eagles play. Both those teams are eight
and three in the Black Friday Game. Can't wait for
that mentioned Hold another round to high school football, the
playoffs happening in the state of Ohio and Kentucky. You've
also got rivalry weekend in college football Ohio State Michigan
coming up a full slate NFL slate on Sunday. I mean, gosh,

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this is one of the best weeks of the year.
It's also Feast week in college basketball. This is one
of the best sports weeks of the year. Let's go
to Hamilton and talk to Marcus. Hi, Marcus, how's it going,
Oh man, I'm great?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
How are you pretty good? I just wanted to speak
on the Black Friday thing. Me and my buddy are
currently sitting in a parking lot waiting for people to
show up and then we have to go wait.

Speaker 7 (15:43):
Out in the cold.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
But we're all bundled up and we're ready to be.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
First on LN You what are you shopping for? What
are you going to be waiting in line for?

Speaker 5 (15:52):
This is gonna sound absolutely ridiculous, but it's saltwater fish.
Oh like aquariums.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, that's not ridicult list those are? I mean that's
like that's a serious market there.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Oh big time actually at Discover Aquatics and Taylor Milk.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
And they they have a tank and they're signed by
t Higgins.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Old tank.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
He was doing jellyfish for a while, right, the whole
jellyfish thing with t Higgins.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
I'm pretty sure it was eels. He had like big
crazy eels.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, like these things are crazy interesting. Okay, So what
do you what do you got on the Bengals?

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Uh? I thought overall it was a great win tonight,
but you know, you just never know which which side
of the Bengals you're gonna get, you know, if their
defense is going to show up or not. And then
it just goes to show how big turnovers are. Yeah,
I mean, I mean that really won the game. I

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mean they didn't score a ton of touchdowns and they
still put up thirty two points, which I thought also
was really impressive.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah. I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And there is kind of like that pit in your
stomach almost possession to possession during a Bengals game, because
you don't know, are they going to look like the
team that can score fifty points on offense? Are they
going to look like the team that can only settle
for field goals? Are they going to look like the
defense we saw tonight or the defense they can't stop
a nosebleed. They couldn't stop a sentence with a period
earlier this season.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's difficult, but it does make the games fun, right Marcus.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, I mean until it's the fourth quarter and you
think you won and you walk in the other room
and you come back and then you're like, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Marcus, thank you for the phone call. Yeah,
that's the life, you know, that's the life of a
Bengals fan.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's not easy. It's not easy.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And then at the end of the game tonight, trying
to run out the clock and kick a field goal
to go up three possessions. Samaj p Ryan fumbles to
give Baltimore some life and I think to myself, oh
my goodness, it's never easy. Here we go again. How's
this defense going to respond? And sure enough, they responded

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by creating another turnover of their own.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
That was incredible.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So the Bengals schedule from this point forward, they're four
and eight. They have five games to go. They've got
that many by this weekend, so they don't play this weekend,
but they are in Buffalo on December seventh, next Sunday.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Now that game.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Originally was a four to twenty five pm kickoff, it's
been moved up to one pm in Buffalo. Then December fourteenth,
right back here at pay Corpse Stadium against the Baltimore
Ravens again, so two times in three weeks. Then they
go to Miami to play the Dolphins. As of now,

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that is a Sunday night football game on December the
twenty first. That could get flexed out. I would expect
it does get flexed out. Then they come back for
two at home to finish the season against the Arizona
Cardinals and against the Cleveland Browns. Every single one of
those games is winnable based off the way those teams

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have been playing. Buffalo was embarrassed last Thursday night against
the Houston Texans. Baltimore. We saw the way their offense
performed tonight Miami. They've gotten better since they fired their GM,
but they still feel like they're a long ways away
and have dealt with injuries. Arizona feels like it's the
end of Kyler Murray there. They don't have much going

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on in Cleveland has a super Bowl caliber defense. I
will give them that, but they really aren't playing for
much in Shadoor Sanders as their starting quarterbacks, so you
don't know what to expect. So when you think of
the future, how about this the Joe Burrow effect. Earlier
this morning or Thanksgiving morning, the Bengals odds to make

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the playoffs on FanDuel were plus twenty five hundred. Now
they're plus nine eighty. They're odds to win the AFC
North On Thanksgiving morning morning were plus four thousand, Now
they're plus eleven hundred. The Joe Burrow effect in a
road win in primetime in the AFC North to put

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the Bengals at three and one in the AFC North.
That's the Joe Burrow effect and all of a sudden,
there's a lot left to play for for the Bengals.
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Speaker 8 (20:47):
Borrow a shotgun right, two is right, shotgun staff Joe
under pressure flings it down the middle of.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
The film, LC Bosh leaves at the three and takes
it into the end zone. Eight yard touchdown to Andre
Yo Si Vosh and the Bengals.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
Lead is back to eleven with a pat coming up.

Speaker 10 (21:09):
I love the way Yoshi caught the football cut up
and just you know, quietly let the baul rolled off
his hand and looked at the crowd.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
The Baltimore crowd just did how about that throw?

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Oh, just dynamite. Dynamite.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Indeed, that was the call from Dan Horde and Dave
Lapham of Joe Burrow's touchdown pass to Andre Yoshivas. That
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That was the play too that Joe Burrow said after
the game. That's when he was like, okay, I got
it back like I felt it. He had to split,
you know, right over the linebacker and in between the
safety and andre Yoshivash wins on the kind of throw
it out in front of him, catches it on a
big third down where he's feeling the pressure on third
and nine, and Joe Burrow makes the throw. Andre Yoshivash

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makes the play and as you heard Dan say in
that clip right there, the Bengals lead went back to eleven.
That was right with fifteen seconds to go at the
end of the third quarter. That was a big, big
moment in the game four the Bengals, who would go
on to win thirty two to fourteen. By the way,
you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports

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talk show presented by RNL Carriers. My name is Austin Olmore,
with you until three o'clock on this beautiful black Friday morning,
this victory Black Friday. As the Bengals beat the Ravens
thirty two to fourteen. I mentioned the statistics for one
Joe Burrow, the completion percentage not where he wanted it

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to be, not what we're used to with Joe Burrow.
But he admitted after the game there was some rust
that he needed to work off, and I thought that
was evident early on. There was a play in which
Jamar Chase had one on one coverage on the outside
and he had a step He had beaten his guy,

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and it was if Joe throws the pass that were
typically used to seeing Joe throw, it probably ends up
a touchdown or if not, a thirty or forty yard
gain to Jamar Chase, and Jamar really didn't have a
chance for it. There was also a quick out route
that Jamar really didn't have a chance for. There was
a ball that was thrown behind Jamar that kind of

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clanked off his hands. You could tell early on Joe
had some happy feet and he was just trying to
get the ball out quickly. I was going back through
my notes and at one point I wrote, Joe does
not want the ball in his hands. He doesn't look
comfortable with the ball in his hands, and That's the
thing about Joe Burrow. He's been in the league for

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six years now. We've seen enough of him, especially early
in the season, to know that he needs reps and
he needs to get into the flow of the game.
And once he gets into the flow of the game,
then it's like, Okay, yes there's Joe Burrow. But he's
not always a fast starter, which you know, we've talked
about fast starts a lot with the Bengals over the

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last couple of years, but it's especially evident with Joe Burrow.
He wasn't great in Week one against Cleveland. He was
fine up until he got hurt against Jacksonville, and then
he didn't play for nine weeks, and so I wasn't
expecting him to come out and immediately be the guy
from the twenty twenty four season who was capable of

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winning the MVP and put together the best statistical season
ever by a Bengals quarterback. I didn't expect that. I
expected some rust. We saw some rust. Here's the thing
that I think that's interesting with Joe because early on,
when the Bengals offense got onto the field, we saw
a lot of under center. We saw some under center
play action. We saw an under center toss, we saw

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a run, we saw and that's been a conversation that's
been had a lot while Burrow was out and Joe
Flacco was in. It is this prevalence to go under
center that people want more of for the Bengals and
that they think has been a big part of unlocking
the Bengals offense and specifically the Bengals run game. And

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I do think there's something to it, but I do
think it's probably a bit of an overblown topic to
talk so much about that. But I was worried and
I do a show with Tony Pike on ESPN fifteen thirty,
and Tony was kind of talking about the intricacies of
playing the quarterback position, and especially when you're under center,
where you've got to push off with that right foot

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that Joe had the toe injury on. You got to
kind of push off with that right foot you worry
about getting stepped on by an offensive lineman and to
get back into your drop or to get back the
hand the ball off, there's like some torque on that foot.
Really expect to see under center much from the Bengals tonight.
We saw a lot more of it that, to me

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is a reflection of just how healthy Joe Burrow feels
with his toe. They got some easy completions, they moved
the pocket. I thought it was a safe, comfortable, and
overall really good opening. A couple of drives for Joe Burrow.
They didn't result in a ton of points. They scored
points on their first drive of the game, and after

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that it was it was relatively you know, normal stuff,
nothing crazy, and you could tell. I think they were
just trying to get Joe to settle into the game
a little bit, and I think he did a pretty
good job of that, especially once they got into the
second half, in which he was able to look more
like the Joe Burrow that we're.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Used to seeing.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
And the other thing that I find interesting over the
last month or so, no offense in the NFL has
been at as good at running the football as the Bengals. Yes,
at running the football. Now, samajp Ryan's been a little
bit banged up, and you relied on Tos Brooks and
he was out tonight with the concussion. But Chase Brown

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in the Bengals offense, and specifically that Bengals offensive line,
has been excellent at running the football like the best
in the National Football League over the last month. And
then you go through the first half of tonight's game
in Baltimore and you see that Joe Burrow has thrown
thirty two passes, the most by any player in a

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first half of a game in the NFL this season,
And I'm thinking, why on Earth are there so many
passes being called? But I was also kind of going
through my notes and writing down there was a ton
of Joe Burrow at the line of scrimmage checking out
of a play or checking into a different player, killing
one player, whatever it might be. That's the difference between

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Burrow and all the other quarterbacks on the roster. I
think with Jake Browning or Joe Flacco for the most part,
if Zach Taylor calls a run play, those guys are
going to get up there, snap the ball and hand
it off. If Zach calls a run play and you
get to the line of scrimmage with Joe Burrow and
Burrow doesn't like the look or he gets a key

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that says, Okay, this is not how we want to
run the ball. We want to adjust this motion, we
want to adjust this player. Boll then he'll check out
of that to a more advantageous play call for the Bengals,
and I think that often is out of a run
into a pass, and because of that, those numbers get
a little bit inflated. I think there is a balance

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that Joe and Zach are going to have to find.
We've complained about this, and we've heard a lot of
Bengals fans complain about this over the years, that they
don't run the ball enough. And that was my complaint
early on in this game, that they didn't run the
football enough, and that you were putting a little bit
too much stress on Joe Burrow. And I don't want

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to take away from what Joe does well, which is
obviously an elite level of processing and having a complete
mastery and a complete control of the offense.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
And that is.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
A skill and a talent and a trait, however you
want to describe it, that not a lot of guys
have in the NFL that complete and mastery.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
There's only a few of them, and.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
So I don't want to take that away from Joe,
especially if that's where he's comfortable.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
But also.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think if you're running the ball well and your
offensive line is playing well and you've got a good,
dependable running back, sometimes you can just hand the ball
off and trust that they're going to make a play.
I don't think that every single time you have to
check out of one thing into another. And I don't
know if there's just they have to find a happy

(29:53):
medium if you're Zach and Joe. I don't know if
they need to adjust some of the keys that they
look at and how they I don't know, and I
don't know enough about the intricacies of that, but I
remember thinking in the first half, he's throwing the ball
way too much, why aren't they running it? And then
also realizing Joe's checking out a lot of stuff at
the line of scrimmage. But the run game continued to

(30:16):
perform well tonight. As a team, the Bengals had thirty
three carries for one hundred and twenty eight yards. Most
of those came from Chase Brown. Chase had fifteen carries
for seventy eight yards on the ground, he had seven
catches for one hundred and thirty or excuse me, seven
catches for thirty five yards, so he was over one

(30:38):
hundred yards on the night. Samaj p Ryan fourteen carries
for thirty nine yards. Burrow, as I mentioned earlier, carried
the ball three times for eight yards, and there was
one checkdown pass that was actually a backwards pass to
Drew Sample, so it counts as a run for sample,
but it was a three yard completion slash run to
Drew Sample. So as a team thirty three yards thirty

(31:02):
three carries one hundred and twenty eight yards for an
average of three point nine per carry. Specifically, when you
go up to Chase Brown five point two yards per
carry for him, in the words of Dave Lapham, that
dog will hunt. And even if you take the team
total of three point nine yards per carry, that dog

(31:24):
will hunt. And I do think there are plenty of
reasons to criticize Zach Taylor and his play calling this year,
and I would hear many of them. But one of
the things I do think Zach is really good at
is adjusting to his personnel and adjusting his scheme. And
the way that the run game has grown from what

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it was in the first three weeks of.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
The season to what it is now.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I think that is indicative of good offensive coaching, good scheme,
and ability to work around what you have and fix
it and doing that while also trying to install an
offense with a new quarterback and dealing with the backup
and all the other stuff that's been going on. I
think that Zach Taylor deserves some credit for that. We'll

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get into some of the other team stats as we go.
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
My name is Austin Elmore.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Already almost one hour down and one hour to go,
going till three o'clock this morning on this beautiful black
Friday morning. Bengals victorious over the Baltimore Ravens on Thanksgiving Night,
the John Madden Thanksgiving By the way, I just want
to say I think the NFL has done an awesome
job honoring an awesome man in John Madden. They've done

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this now, I think the last three years on Thanksgiving
they've made it the John Madden Thanksgiving and I hope
this is a tradition that never dies. They have a
John Madden MVP Award that they give away in all
three games and the player gets a ten thousand dollars
donation in their name to Madden's Foundation where they help

(33:39):
underprivileged kids. And every year they tell the story.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Of John Madden.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And I think that's so important to continue to educate
people on the man and the impact of John Madden,
not only on football, in the game of football itself,
but also on the presentation of football and to a
national audience, international TV and all of it. John is

(34:06):
just so incredibly important to the history of the game.
And a couple of years ago after he passed away,
there was a documentary that was released about him and
about his life, and I believe it's just simply called Madden.
And I cannot recommend that enough. If you're a football fan,
if you're a football junkie like I am, any of it,

(34:27):
Like cannot recommend that enough. It is such a good,
good thing, and I think the NFL just continues to
do a great job and it's pretty cool that they
honored him again. Let's review the Guilty Windows Window of
opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key to
quality windows. That's trusting the pros at Guilty Windows. Think

(34:52):
about this game for a moment. You have no Trey Henderson,
you have no cam sample and you're on the road
short week AFC North Baltimore Ravens Thanksgiving Night. You've got
Derrick Henry on the other side, You've got Lamar Jackson
on the other side, and your defense desperately needs to

(35:15):
continue the good momentum. And with no Trey hendrickson, there
have been more and more snaps, more and more opportunities
for Joseph Osai and Miles Murphy. Now you might remember
in those final five or six games of last year
when Joseph Osai was spectacular, had five sacks at the

(35:35):
end of last season and was really a big part
of the Bengals winning those last five games. Well it's
that time of year again, and tonight Joseph Osai stepped up.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
He had two sacks.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Tonight and was one of the most important pieces on
this Bengals team. He played fearless, he played fast, He
had three solo tackles, He had four quarterback hits. He
was part of a defensive line in that unit that
I think was a huge part of the Bengals winning

(36:09):
this game. And so the window of opportunity is about
those chances that Osai got and also that Miles Murphy got.
We got the caller earlier talking about the hustle for
Murphy on that long play to Derrick Henry where Murphy
chases down Henry and is able to get the stop.
Miles had two tackles tonight, he had a pass defense.

(36:30):
He was really playing a great game, I thought, on
the edge and being able to show his speed and
his strength and be able to set that edge. And
then you had Cedric Johnson, who's only playing as his
second or third game back, and he did get banged
up with the knee injury a little bit later on,
ended up walking off under his own power. But sad

(36:51):
Johnson recovered two fumbles tonight when the ball falls right
in front of him and has continued to put a
little bit of extra pressure on a pose offensive lines.
I think he deserves a lot of credit. So to me,
the window of opportunity in the way that those guys
seized it goes to Osai, goes to Murphy, goes to
Cedric Johnson. I mean force and fumbles, just incredible force

(37:17):
and fumbles, getting sacks, putting pressure on the quarterback, qb hits,
making them uncomfortable in there. All that stuff for me
is a big deal. And that's our guilty windows window
of opportunity, and of course Guilkey Windows the key to
quality windows. That's trusting the pros at Guilkey Windows. In
case you missed the other games in the National Football

(37:39):
League earlier today, the Bengals did get a little bit
of help from the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys knocked off
the Kansas City Chiefs at At and T Stadium in Arlington.
Thirty one, p. Twenty eight was the final in that game.
Dallas is now six five and one on the season
and the Chiefs are six and six. Kansas City is

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one in five away from Arrowhead Stadium. That's kind of
hard to fathom. First game of the day was the
Packers and the Lions in Detroit. Detroit's going through some
woes offensively, and they got even worse in the first quarter.
I'm and Ross Saint Brown, their great all pro wide receiver,
went out with an ankle injury. He was rolled up

(38:22):
by one of his offensive linemen while he was blocking
downfield on a run play.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
He did not return.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
His timetable as of now is unclear, but Detroit loses
to green Bay thirty one to twenty four. Detroit now
seven and five on the season. They're on the outside
looking in, and green Bay goes to eight three and
one on the year, and of course the Bengals over
the Ravens. If you look at the playoffs right now,

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this is crazy. If you look at the playoff picture
in the AFC right now, the following quarterbacks on the
outside looking in CJ Stroud, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
The last spot in the AFC playoffs right now belongs

(39:09):
to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, and they are not,
by any means playing up to the standard that we've
expected out of that team. Right now, your top seven seeds,
the top seven teams to make the playoffs in the AFC,
New England at ten and two, Denver at nine and two,
Indianapolis at eight and three Pittsburgh at six and five.

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They now lead the AFC North after tonight's result. The
first wild card team is the LA Chargers at seven
and four, the Jags at seven and four, and Buffalo
at seven and four. If you're wondering about this weekend,
Buffalo at Pittsburgh in that game, if you are a

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Bengals fan, and if you're trying to believe in the
hope and the optimism and the fact that maybe, just
maybe they have a chance with Joe Burrow at quarterback,
well then you you are a big Buffalo Bills fan.
This coming weekend in Pittsburgh, Josh Allen up against Aaron
Rodgers in the Steel City should be fun. If you're

(40:11):
a Bengals fan, you're rooting for those Buffalo Bills. We'll
take a break for the news. We'll come back. We'll
keep talking some football on this beautiful Black Friday. Victory
Black Friday morning right here on seven hundred WLW and
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Speaker 2 (41:25):
Hi, Hello, and welcome in too. Postgame Sports Talk here
on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. My name
is Austin Elmore. Thank you for being here, and thank
you for allowing me to be a part of your
Black Friday morning and maybe just a little bit of
part of your Thanksgiving festivities, whatever they might be. I

(41:46):
am thrilled to be talking about a Bengals victory Cincinnati
thirty two fourteen winners over Baltimore in Baltimore on a
Thanksgiving Thursday nighter, and Cincinnati now four and eight on
the season. I want to talk about the biggest story,
which is that Joe Burrow played.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
In the game.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's kind of amazing that he did what he did.
And I know, going back to all the conversations over
the last couple of weeks while he's been practicing of
should you play him or should you not play him?
And my whole thing was, you're still technically alive in
the playoff race. He's been medically cleared to play. He

(42:29):
feels confident in playing, So why shouldn't your best player play?
And I think the team needs him around. I don't
know if you heard the locker room report with Wayne
box Miller, but they had those interviews with Dan Horden,
and Dan kept asking the same question to everybody, how
much did the team feed off the presence of Joe Burrow?

(42:51):
How much did they need having him back? And they
all basically said, dude, yes, like him being here and
helpful and like it. We know we have a chance
when Joe Burrow is on the field. And I think
that's how a lot of Bengals fans feel too. I get,
you know, wanting to be careful with him and trying
to think and balance out whether or not a draft

(43:12):
pick is more valuable or winning games and getting him
reps is more valuable and him not playing but two
and a half quarters of football over the course of
fifteen months or whatever, Like you're trying to balance out
all the different stuff. But at the end of the day,
he's a great player who's medically cleared to play and

(43:32):
feels comfortable playing, and your team technically still has a
path to the playoffs, So why not play him? That
was my whole thing. And at the other part of
it is too Joe is the best quarterback that's ever
played for this franchise. And how many times or how
many players would you think back on their career in

(43:54):
Cincinnati and you would give anything to watch them play
one more game. Anthony Moon, Isaac Curtis, Ken Anderson O
Cho Sinko, maybe it's Corey Dillon, you know all, there's
just so many great players that you would just do
anything to watch them play one more game for the Bengals,
Geno Atkins, AJ Green Like this stuff, it goes away quickly.

(44:20):
Burrow is already in his sixth season. His contract is
up five years from now. But I just told you
he's in his sixth, sixth season. Like, think about how
fast that goes. I want to watch great players play
for my favorite team, and I was thrilled that Joe

(44:42):
played tonight and performed the way he did and led
the Bengals to a victory, And especially when you think
of all the crap that kind of was going on
around this game. Let's start with the fact that for
the fourth year in a row the Bengals have had
to go to Baltimore for a prime time game. That's
hard as hell to do. Three out of those four

(45:04):
have been short weeks Thursday night games in twenty three,
twenty four, and twenty five. That's insane. The Bengals are
understandably upset about that. But if you rewind to twenty three,
that was the night in Baltimore where Joe's wrist popped.
I did the postgame show that night. We had no
idea what was going on, but as the night went on,

(45:27):
we realized, oh crap, this is serious and that's kind
of a place that as Joe said to the media
last week, it would mean a lot for him to
come back and play on that field in that moment.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
And he did.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
That's also rewind to last night, the Bengals trying to
fly to Baltimore. Their plane has mechanical issues. They're stuck
on the tarmac on the plane for hours without being
able to move or get off. Finally they switched play
to a much smaller plane with these ginormous men. They
don't get to Baltimore until almost one am local time.

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That throws off their meeting plan, their bed plan, their
dinner plan, all of it, and I'm sure messes up
their morning a little bit going into Thanksgiving morning. And
yet they found a way to show up. What about
the other part of two of this kind of battle
between the Ravens fans in the Bengals. You know, a

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couple of years ago, on that Thursday Night when Burrow
screwed up his wrist after the game, Lamar Jackson is
on the set with the Thursday Night Football crew and
he's talking to them, and all the fans are gathered around,
and you hear this loud, clear as day chant from

(46:52):
the Baltimore fans saying, F Joe burr Row, F Joe
burr Row, F Joe Burrow number one, classless number two.
Another part of the chapter of this rivalry and part
of why it means so much for Joe to come

(47:14):
back in that spot in that game. On that stage
and perform the way he did. And listen, when the
Bengals have Joe Burrow, they're a different team. When you
go back the last eight games that Joe Burrow has
started for the Bengals, you want to know their record

(47:36):
eight to no last five from last year, first two
from this year and tonight against Baltimore eight and oh.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Are the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
So when you think of all the history of Baltimore,
the nonsense with the travel and getting there already being
a short week and playing a division rival again, which
has been a real problem for every team in the division,
all the stuff going on, and Joe having not played
in nine weeks, which was he's like three weeks ahead

(48:13):
of schedule. Going through all that and finding way to
perform the way he did, knock the rust off and
play the way he did in the second half incredible.
Like I hope we understand the greatness that we have.
This is an elite of an elite quarterback. And when
he's healthy and when he's you know, in his rhythm,

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he's as good as any.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Player in the league.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Doesn't matter, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, I don't
care Burrow is as good as any one of them,
if not better, And it's so fun to watch. And
I just you know, tonight was only the second time
in the history of the franchise that the Bengals have
played on Thanksgiving, and their superstar quarterback was healthy enough

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to play, and he played.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I'm just enjoying that. I'm soaking that in.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
And as much as the debate has been about, you know,
should Joe play or should Joe not play? I thought
it was cool the answer that he gave to Melissa
Stark from NBC prior to the game.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Take a listen to this exchange.

Speaker 12 (49:23):
I'm just excited to get out there and play, have
some time with the guys.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
You're wearing a hard plate in your shoe.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
What impact will that have?

Speaker 12 (49:30):
Well, see, I don't think it'll have much impact. I
feel pretty good moving around, feel pretty good throwing. So
excited to be back out there.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
The team is three and eight, slim chances of making
the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
Why was it so important for you to come back
and play tonight.

Speaker 12 (49:43):
We're getting paid a lot of money to play a
kid's game. I love playing. I just want to put
on a show for the fans, be out there with
my guys, go on play.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Well, how cool is that? I want to put on
a show for the fans. I want to play with
my teammates. We get paid a lot of money to
play a kid's game. What an awesome answer from the
face of your franchise. I thought that was cool. I
thought that was refreshing. I also thought it was awesome
that Joe didn't really waste any time throwing the ball

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to his guy, Jamar Chase also a comeback of sorts
for him. Jamar fresh off the suspension for spitting on
Jalen Ramsey. He was fresh after having not played against
the Patriots, and he performed. Well, that's actually our connection
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hundred and ten yards. Did Jamar Chase fourteen targets? Bunch
of those came on third downs, and the Bengals were
able to move the chains with those two. Always fun

(50:59):
to see the LSU connection back in action. We'll take
a break, we'll come back. You're listening to the Tri
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Speaker 3 (51:29):
My name's Austin Olmore.

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Speaker 6 (51:44):
Well.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Joe Burrow, he delivered tonight. It was also cool after
the game, they're doing the whole Turducan celebration. Joe gets
the MVP the Madden MVP award, which was cool, and
all the guys are gathered around and they're getting turkey
legs and duck and chicken legs and the whole nine

(52:06):
yards and they're all kind of celebrating and having fun
around Joe Burrow and Melissa Stark is trying to ask him,
you know, what are you thankful for?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Like, what does this moment mean to you? And it's
very rare that we.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
See emotion from the quarterback of the Bengals, and you
could tell there was a moment where it kind of
hit him where it kind of like, you know, thankful
for the people that got him here, that got him
to this point. The trainers, his friends, his family, his teammates,
his physical therapists, his doctors, like all the people. You

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can just tell this moment were like he just did
something that Joe Burrow, the little kid growing up in Athens, Ohio,
always wanted to do, and you could just you could
tell it hit him for a moment.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
And you know I've said before, I'm a kid from
a small town in Ohio, just like Joe, and you know,
he's lived out the dream of a lot of kids
who grew up in Ohio. He went on to Ohio
State and obviously things didn't work out the way they
expected it to, but he played for the Buckeyes, goes
and wins the Heisman trophies, the number one pick in

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the draft. He gets back to Ohio with the Bengals
and goes through all that he's gone through. I find
him to be a relatable guy. I think, you know,
in a lot of different ways. Obviously, there is nothing
that relates to me about having a two hundred and
fifty million dollar contract, but his personality and his upbringing

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and you know, the experiences.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
He had as a kid.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I relate to a lot of that as well, and
I've always just seen I thought it's so cool to
see how he handles those moments, and I thought it
was cool again tonight. Let's go over some of the
other stats from this game. The Bengal as I said
it was, it was a little dominating, like it wasn't

(54:05):
as close of a game I think as maybe it
felt to a lot of people watching it. The Bengals
had twenty two first downs, Baltimore had sixteen. The Bengals
were eight of nineteen on third downs, Baltimore was three
for ten. Both teams were four for two or one
for two on fourth downs. Total yards, Cincinnati had three

(54:29):
eighty two to Baltimore's three forty six. Baltimore had one
extra drive two in that entire situation. Rushing numbers were
about the same. Cincinnati won twenty eight, Baltimore won twenty three.
Penalties Cincinnati six for thirty five, Baltimore seven for fifty three.

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The Bengals were one for six in the red zone,
Baltimore was one for two. As I mentioned, Baltimore fumbled
four times and Jackson threw an interception. The Bengals did
have one fumble they lost late in the game by
samaj p Ryn. But here's the big one, here's the
big kicker. Time of possession thirty eight forty six thirty

(55:16):
eight minutes forty six seconds for the Bengals Baltimore twenty
one minutes, fourteen seconds. So the Bengals had the ball
for seventeen more minutes than the Baltimore Ravens did.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
And the total plays was eighty for the Bengals offense
to fifty seven for Baltimore. That's just that's crazy. You
just don't expect that. And I think that's going to
be part of the thing, like kind of going back
to that conversation about Joe changing the plays at the
line of scrimmage and maybe doing that a little bit

(55:59):
too freequly, or figuring out the balance. When your defense
struggles the way that your defense has, you have got
to get them off the field. You've got to keep
Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and those guys off the field.
Next week against Buffalo, you got to keep Josh Allen
and Dalvin Cook or James Cook and those you got

(56:20):
to keep them off the field. And so you have
to be able to operate an offense and be efficient
and move the sticks. And you want chunk plays and
you want exposive plays, and there's a place for that,
but also you want to possess the ball. You want
to run a bunch of plays. You want to wear
that defense down, you want to drain that clock. You

(56:42):
want to make sure that your defense is getting a
break and they're not on the field every three plays,
every three plays, every three plays. And that complimentary football
that we talk a lot, a lot, a lot a
lot about, I think is just incredibly important for the
success of this team. And I thought you saw it tonight,

(57:03):
even though it was a short week. The defense I
felt like was really flying around. They were amazing with
their speed, with their athleticism, with their motor. They looked
fresh every time they took the ball or every time
they took the field, and I think that's because of
the way the offense was handling the ball. I mean,

(57:25):
if you look at the numbers and what Lamar Jackson.
Did I mean this guy is still an MVP candidate.
He's still as good as anybody in the NFL. He
was seventeen of thirty two two hundred and forty six yards,
no touchdowns, and an interception. The Bengals sacked him three times.

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Other stats for Baltimore Dereck Henry ten carries, sixty yards,
one touchdown. Jackson carried the ball just six times for
twenty seven yards. He had a long of eleven. Keaton
Mitchell carried twice for nineteen rasheen a Lee four carries
for seventeen yards. As a team, Baltimore twenty two for
one hundred and twenty three yards. That's getting it done.

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I'm surprised they didn't run the ball more. Baltimore's leading
receiver was Isaiah Likely five catches for ninety five yards.
He also had that fumble. It was a big play
in the game as well. You want to talk about
the effort of one Miles Murphy on the Derrick Henry play,
What about the effort of Jordan Battle catching up to

(58:29):
Isaiah Likely and slapping that left forearm that led to
the ball slipping out of the hands of Isaiah Likely.
Out of the back of the end zone, fumbled through
the end zone for a touchback, and the Bengals get possession.
That was a big play in the game as well,
and early on it felt like the Bengals just letting
Baltimore hang around, especially because of the way that they

(58:51):
couldn't convert in the red zone. But I do think
the Bengals deserved some credit because Baltimore landed some punches too,
and Cincinnati didn't follow They ate those punches. They stood
right in there and performed pretty well, and typically, you know,
as is usual, tight ends eate the Bengals alive likely
had five for ninety five. Mark Andrews four for forty seven,

(59:15):
including a nineteen yarder. Derrick Henry had that one catch
for forty four yards. But Zay Flowers he did nothing,
two for six, two for six. That speaks to the
importance of DJ Turner and DeAndre Hopkins had two for
twenty five. I mean, when you do that, when you
hold those top two targets to basically thirty one yards

(59:37):
on four catches, and obviously the tight ends not great
in terms of letting them go for yards, but that's
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(59:58):
Hill and DJ Turner, who were marvelous in coverage for
the Bengals. Dax Hill two passes defensed. DJ Turner also
had a pass defensed, and all together the team had
six of them. Josh Newton had a big one on
a fourth down, Barrett Carter had one, Demetrius Knight had one.

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It was just overall really impressive performance against Lamar Jackson
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during the game for the Bengals, except one linebacker Brian
Asamoa for the formerly with the Minnesota Vikings, the guy
who was brought up on the practice squad and had
turned into a really good special teamer for the Bengals
over the last couple of weeks. He left with a
knee injury and did not return to the game. So

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that's something to keep an eye out on when it
comes to the special teams unit. Defensive end Cedric Johnson.
As I mentioned earlier, he got a little bit banged
up later in the game. He did walk off under
his own power. Zach Taylor, from what I heard, did
not provide any injury updates on those so not sure
the status of either one of them. It was a
knee for Brian Osamoa and unclear on Cedric Johnson's injury.

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And during the game, Baltimore's top cornerback, the young Nate Wiggins,
he left with an injury and did not return in
the second half. That was a big part of the Bengals'
success offensively, especially when it comes to Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That is today's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you by Postman Law
Injured call eight four to four. Postman. Others promise, but
Postman delivers. Let's go out to the phones. Let's talk
to Dave in reading. Dave, you're on post game Sports Talk.
What's up man?

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Hey? Yeah? I also got kudos Hugh first off for
bringing up John Madden. Talk about him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Oh yeah, he's the best man, the huge part of
my childhood. I love John Madden.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Hey, yeah, you're a young dude, But you seem to
know a lot about NFL history. I try to tell
the younger people in my family about the football history,
and uh, it's it's a great thing.

Speaker 13 (01:03:37):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
You stole some of my thunder there. I was going
to talk about the Ravens fans. You know. So when
that happened Joeker hurt two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Oh yeah, you know, I never would.

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
I never want to ever want to see a player
get hurts. Bet a quarterback, you know, because they're cheap
in the game. But also I just believe in Fade.
I mean, yeah, he does something. I guess he's gonna
turn on the bike sometime and you know their quarterback
right now, just old guy. He's he's right, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, he definitely I was. I saw a couple of
people talking about this. I think it's the best way
to describe it. Like he just doesn't look right, like
he's not comfortable. It's been a hamstring, it's been an ankle,
it's been a knee, it's been a toe. I just
I don't know if he's got his legs underneath him. Man,
He's just he's not the same guy we've seen in
the past.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
Well, I was wrong about I know you guys, I
guess you're one of them two. When he got drapped,
it was saying he should be picked, and I didn't
believe it. I didn't think he'd be that great. He said.
He proved me wrong. He's he's become a great football player.
But it's all about Joe today. I was a little wary,
just because he's always been a flung starter way you know,

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I mean, began this season all the time, he didn't
evenly look that good in the first game and half
he played this year, and he did like you you
you were dead on it, saying about him struggling early
and everything. But the guy is he's just a winner.
Let's face it's a great leader. He's just a winner.
But let's all real quick about the deep and some
really everybody's been putting them down. And these guys you

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can say what you want about and they're professionals and
getting badgers doing this is terrible. All ESPN and everybody
walls see how bad they are. And they was up
to day. You know, you were talking about Miles Murphy
and he actually deflected that interception, uh that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Past Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
One of the things and he uh, he just had
a really good game as a side did and it
was just great to see it. And you see what happened.
To get pressure on the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
It changes everything, especially if if Lamar's a little bit compromised,
like we're just talking about, then it makes everything so
much harder for for that defense.

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
Good to see al go. You're gonna see him blitz
and I wonder why it's not taking so long to
do that. I guess you just didn't trust him on
the back end.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Yeah, we've seen a lot more of that out of
the bye week, where he's just been more willing to blitz.
And there was a there was at one point I
think it was a second down and a third down
back to back, which that never happens to back to
to blitz on back to back plays. I thought that
was a good like, if nothing else, it breaks the
tendency for the Bengals defense and moving forward, it's like,

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oh crap, they could blitz back to back plays.

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
I thought it was a smart move exactly. Maybe he
just hitting nothing to lose but trying it maybe, but
uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I mean, desperate times called for desperate measures.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Dave k a quick question.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Oh it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I was able to hang out with my dad and uh,
I was up in Covington, Ohio, where he lives, and
I got to spend some time with my family. Got
back home just in time to watch the game. And
I'm here now. I'll tell you what I have about
three plates and I'm gonna sleep like a rock tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
I can tell you about maybe two of cars. Got
tell you a quick thing about my from my thanks
you and I we went out to eat my family
the last couple of years. I won't say where a
restaurant is respected prize see, but we were sitting there.
My brother Scott, he goes, uh, at the table next
to us, he goes, that was like, it's uh, that's

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why it looks like Davy concept she owned sitting there,
And we looked at later on and atad is Davy
concept she owned? Saysar Geronimo was sitting there, and then
Scott says, yeah, the other guy over here. I'm not sure,
but that it was like Tito and they were all
three sitting at the table right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Next to us, no kidding, Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
Yeah, and yeah we waved. They got down to their
meal everything. I actually talked to him for about ten minutes.
You know, Tino, he he did talk hood all your
head off, and he was telling stories about you know,
Pete Rose and some of the Big Red Machine and
Davy's chiming was it was really surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, that's that's a really cool story, Davey.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Yeah, and then we uh well even missed maybe part
of the first quarter by the time we got home,
but didn't watch the game. It was great. But I
appreciate your time. And uh, you're you're not working tomorrow,
of course, no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
No, I'm off with the company holiday tomorrow. But Dave's
good talking to you, man. Have a happy Thanksgiving, happy
holiday weekend. Man, that's pretty cool seeing a couple of
the Big Red Machine and old Tito. It'd be a
fun Thanksgiving story. I can only imagine what was going
on at that table.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Uh, you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame
sports talk show. Bengals victorious over the Ravens tonight. Let's
go back to the phones five three, seven, seven thousand.
Let's go up to Dayton and talk to Jeff. Jeff,
you're on the air, what's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
On your mind.

Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 13 (01:08:40):
All right, great show. By the way, thanks a couple
of comments on the Bengals. I've been following them since
their inception sixty eight. This team right now has the
energy back and that's because of Borrow. Some quarterbacks and
lifted team to no ends. And that's Burrow. You know,

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I thought Brady and Manning had that as well, but
JB's got that. As far as their defense, Osai and
Murphy look like they're coming on now, and I'm wondering,
I want I'm gonna question you on this. Why is
it always so many players have these big years contract

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with contracts coming up? You know that's I know, you
have to grow into that role. You know, it maybe
takes three years.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:09:32):
But now side look, Osai's coming up. He's got five
sacks right now and by the time of the seasons though,
I don't know what he's going to have, but he's
gonna want a big contract. Will they let him go?
Final question? I don't think they're going to ever resign
Chase Brown because Bengals is not going to give big

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money and running back Jeremiah Love out of Notre Dame
is like as he's like the John Robinson that type,
And would they do you think they could possibly in
the first round take Jeremiah leg over any other positions.

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Thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Yeah, Jeff, thank you for the phone call. I have
a hard time seeing a world in which they would
draft a running back in the first round, since they
still have a couple of years of team control over
Chase Brown and because they have so many other issues
on defense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
I'm open to it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I'm open to always like best player available in that situation.
You should always be looking to upgrade your team, and
you never want to be in a position where need
outweighs best player. That's what has gotten the Bengals into
some hot water over the last couple of years. So
I just can't see a world where they go running

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back in the first round. But I do appreciate the
outside the box thinking. As far as the contract year thing,
I think it's interesting. You know, deadlines spur action in
many different phases of life. Like you know, if you
know that you're getting married in twelve months, well then
you start to work out a little bit more. You

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start to put a little bit of muscle on, you
start to lose a little bit of weight so you
look good on that wedding day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
It's kind of like that. And Joseph Osai had a
similar experience last year where he was really kind of
dormant for the first ten or twelve games and turn
it on at the end, and he decided to have
another like one year prove it deal with the Bengals
this year, and I wonder if they would be willing
to keep him around at a bigger deal, but move

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on from Trey Hendrickson. I don't think Trey's going to
play again for the Bengals. I don't think that the
Bengals are going to use the franchise tag on him.
I don't know that they want to go through that
saga again. I don't think Trey wants to be here anymore.
And so if that's the case, then you have all
of a sudden, almost thirty million dollars freed up that

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you may have been earmarking for Trey Hendrickson next year. Well,
what are you gonna do with that thirty million dollars?
I mean, as a whole, you're you have seventy million
in cap space for next year already, so you can
spin that on maybe a Joseph Osai, maybe on a
free agent. Obviously on your draft picks you got some

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you know, other positions that you need to look at.
The difficult part with Joseph Osai is that his agent
is David Mullagedta. David Mullageda, of course, the longtime agent
for Jesse Bates, who the Bengals never got a deal
done with, and he was the agent that was t
higgins agent for a long time, and eventually t Higgins
fired him and got the deal done with Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
So those two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Sides don't see eye to eye from what I know.
But it's not to say it's impossible. Uh but uh yeah,
that's good stuff. It's time to highlight the drive of
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Store where Passion Loves Company. For me, it was the
Bengals first drive in the second half. They came out
and put together a ten play, sixty one yard drive
that was five minutes and twenty six seconds off the
clock and it ended with a touchdown to put Cincinnati

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up nineteen to seven. So halftime happens. The Bengals defense
immediately forces a three and out of Baltimore, and this
drive ensues a six yard run by Chase Brown, an
incompletion by Burrow, and then a six yard pass followed
by a three yard run and a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Three yard pass.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Then on third and four, the Bengals drew a pass
interference penalty on Mitchell Tinsley that got the ball up
to the Baltimore twenty six yard line, which was followed
up by an eight yard run, a three yard run,
an in completion, a one yard run, and then finally
to finish out the drive. This is how the Bengals scored.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
Joe is Ready catches the shotgun, snap begins scrambling right,
Burrow throwing downfield for Hudson.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
He's got it. Wow, touchdown Bengals.

Speaker 9 (01:14:33):
What an adjustment to the ball by Hudson and he
knocks over the back right pylon for a fourteen yard touchdown.
Joe Burrows first since returning from the toe injury, and.

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
Tanner Hudson secures the ball with his left hand, transfers
it to his right, tucks it away man. He caught
the back tip of the football.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
With that left hand and then looked where.

Speaker 10 (01:14:58):
He was on the football field and then he had
both feet down and then as she was going off
the football field, high five in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
The celebrade with everybody. That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
That was an awesome moment for Tanner Hudson, who has
been through a lot, a lot of ups and downs
with the Bengals in his short career. Here to make
that mid air adjustment, one hand snag for Joe Burrow's
first touchdown pass coming back off the injury, and like
I said, it put the Bengals up nineteen to seven.
That is our drive of the game, once again, brought

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to you by the BMW Store. They're over three hundred
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All Right, we're almost done, just a couple of minutes
left to go. As I said, the Bengals are off
this weekend obviously because they just played, but they will

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be in Buffalo on December the seventh. That game originally
supposed to start at four to twenty five, it has
been moved up to a one pm game in Buffalo.
What else do I have here as some things from
the game? Oh, how can we forget Evan McPherson was

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wonderful tonight, and Evan continues to have a sensational year.
He was six for six kicking field goals tonight, two
for two in the extra points, he had a long
of fifty two. He scored twenty of the Bengals thirty
two points. He was marvelous. Evan's having a really good
season so far this year. He's not yet missed an

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extra point. He's one hundred percent. He's eighty eight percent
on his field goals. He did hit a sixty three
yard or just the other week, which is the longest
in Bengals franchise history. Overall, Evan has been just marvelous,
and from fifty plus so far this year he's four

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for seven, but from forty to forty nine he's nine
for nine. Really, from forty nine in he's perfect, four
for four, six for six, nine for nine. He has
been marvelous for the Bengals this season, and he was
one shy of tying the Bengals franchise record for most
field goals made in a game, which ironically enough, happened

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at that same stadium. You might remember two thousand and seven,
the Bengals played in Baltimore and Shane Graham made seven
field goals that day. The Bengals beat Baltimore twenty one
to seven, all seven three point field goals from Shane
Graham in that game. So overall, it's always fun when

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your team wins. You're supposed to have fun, and I
had fun watching the Bengals. The Bengals had fun winning
the game. They had fun celebrating afterwards. And it's always
more fun when you win. And now we get a
stress free weekend off of the holiday, and we get
to watch some college football, we get to watch some NFL,
we get to root for the Buffalo Bills to beat

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the Pittsburgh Steelers. And it's always better when you win
football games. That's what I think. I don't know what
you think, but that's what I think. I've had a
blast doing this. I think this is going to be
the last one I do this year. I assume that
that Miami game is going to get flexed out of primetime.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I hope it doesn't, but I assume that it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
And so for those of you who have listened and
called and been part of the show and the late
night postgame sports talk I really really do appreciate it.
If you like what you heard, you can listen to
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Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
M Ori.

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And Oh, by the way, I have a podcast. It's
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