November 10, 2025 • 17 mins
Willie talks with the US Senator from Ohio John Husted about the agreement made last night to end the government shutdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, Billy Cunningham, the great Americans welcome this Monday
afternoon in the price dates and the snow is everywhere,
whether it's terrible, So just saddle what next to your
radio and listen up. Last night went on the air
and my syndicator show. I'm watching all the channels and
their Senator John Houstad conducting the Senate. He is, of course,
the junior senator from the state of Ohio, in such
a way as to have the Senators vote to open
(00:29):
up the government subject to what's going to happen this afternoon.
Senator John Eusta, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Senator, can you tell the average American what in
the hell happened yesterday and what's going to happen later
this afternoon, because it takes all one hundred senators to
wrap this thing up. Where are we now as we
sit on early Monday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So there was a continuing resolution passed yesterday along
with three what they call minibuses and minute three appropriations
bills for the legislative branch for military construction, for agriculture,
which would includes snap and things like that. They put
them into one package. They would keep the government open
(01:11):
until the end of January, appropriate the money for those things.
But we've always needed sixty votes for this because the
Senate has a rule to in debate on something, you
have to have sixty votes. We'd had fifty five all on,
but last night five more Democrats joined us to get
to that sixty vote margin, and so we've crossed that
(01:35):
threshold now and today we will vote on the final package. However,
if one senator objects to it, it will delay the
vote until tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I can see that happening. You're in charge of
the Senate right now. Do you see that happening? That
one senator, maybe some Socialism Vermont, might say I object,
and then you're in this twenty four hour vote rama.
Do you have some indication that Democrats will let people
get their snap benefits where the Democrats allow air traffic
controllers to work, where the Democrats allow the FBI to
(02:06):
get paid.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And what happens if Sanader says.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, Well, if one senator says no, it will delay
the process another day. Essentially, That's that's what will happen.
Anyone can do it. But whoever that senator is, if
they want to delay, if they want to create more
delays at airports, if they want to stop people from
getting snap benefits, if they want to start, you know,
not pay their staff, not pay the TSA agents and
(02:32):
everybody else and all the families that are struggling, then
that Senator, I guess, can can face the American people
because that will it will be on them.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So Senator you said, come Hell or high Water. That's
one of my favorite movies. By the way, either it's
this afternoon or tomorrow, it will pass the Senate because
of the additional four or five Democrats, and then it'll
go to the House.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Is that correctly, Hell or High Water?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah? Yeah, Now we only need fifty votes because once
you once you asked the filibuster threshold of sixty and
you allow it to come to the floor for a vote.
Now you only need fifty votes to get the rest
of it done. So we're past the tough vote. We
will have the votes to get this final package done.
It's just a matter of when that will be. So.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Forty one days ago, the Democrats voted not to provide
somen benefits. The Democrats voted not to pay TSA in ATCs.
Forty one days ago, the Democrats had shut down the government,
and practically every Republican said keep the government open. So
for the last forty one days, what did the Democrats
gain by their shenanigans? Is anything different now than it
(03:40):
was forty one days ago?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Not really. No, we said this from the very beginning.
We just said, if you open the government up, we're
happy to give you a vote. And then you want
so now they're going to get a vote on their
Biden COVID bonuses that they put into bailout Obamacare. They'll
get a vote on that. There's no guarantee it'll pass.
As a matter of fact, if unless they do it
(04:05):
on a bipartisan basis, there's a probably little chance that
will pass. And so they got nothing other than they
caused pain and suffering for the American people. But we
always knew this is how it's going to end. We
were going to hold strong to our principles of opening
up the government and then negotiating like government like you're
supposed to do. Act like an adult. For goodness sakes,
(04:26):
you know, fund the government, keep services. The people are
paying for these services. It's just you're but they're not
getting them. And that's what's happening when you shut down
the government, and they should have stopped this long ago.
But here we are forty one days later, a lot
of inconvenience, a lot of way bill. Do you know
it's like four hundred million dollars a day to some
(04:50):
of these workers work, but a lot of the federal
government they were furloughed, they didn't work. The American people
got no services from them. Okay, but in the they're
going to end up paying back pay for nothing. And
that's what the Democrats did for us.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Let's step back, centator, you staid, look at Obamacare, and
I'm gonna play later on the comments of Obama himself
talking about the Unaffordable Care Act in real time what
he said was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'll play those events later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm looking to my right at something put together by
insurance industry executives, so that if you're a family of four,
it costs about twenty seven thousand dollars a year for
your insurance premium, and each family member has deductibility up
to five to seven thousand dollars each. So if you're
a family of four, you've paid twenty seven thousand dollars
for your premium, and if all four of you have
healthcare crises going on, you have to get to five
(05:40):
thousand dollars each, just twenty thousand on top of twenty
seven thousand. So before you get a nickel and benefits
under Obamacare, you got to spend forty seven thousand dollars
and then you might get care from a doctor you
didn't choose.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And that's Obamacare that the Democrats are defending. In fact,
they want to expand it and make it more expensive.
Can do you understand that what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Obamacare doesn't work. It's been a failure. The Democrats created
the program. Not one Republican voted for it. They put
a bailout provision in during the COVID bailout to keep
these subsidies going for four more years that to expire
at the end of this year. The money doesn't go
to the consumer, It goes directly to the insurance company,
(06:25):
and then we have to hope that as a result
of giving that money to the insurance companies that they
will reduce the premiums for people. But what we really
know is that the insurance companies under Obamacare, their profits
are double. Their stock prices have increased double of what
all the other companies on the Dow Jones Industrial Average
have over that period of time. It's been a windfall
(06:47):
for insurance companies at the benefit of the American consumer
or at the detriment of the American consumer. And we're
stuck now. And Republicans have said, we want to fix
this because we want to down costs. You want to
talk about costs and affordability. The number one driver of
inflation in the twenty per century is healthcare under Obamacare,
(07:08):
and so we've got to fix it. But the Democrats
want to keep subsidizing it. And oh, by the way,
they don't. They want to subsidize it and make your
children and grandchildren pay for it because it would only
run up the deficit even more to continue their subsidies.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, it's failed, so subsidized it is the approach of
the Democrats when this thing passed. Number one, like your doctor,
keep your doctor, Like your plan, keep your plan. It's
going to reduce premiums by twenty five hundred dollars a year,
promises Obama said, it would reduce waste in the medical industry.
That would take four trillion dollars off the deficit, four
(07:47):
trillion dollars off the deficit. He said it would slow
the growth of premium increases. In fact, you'd get rebates.
And then he also said, if all this has failed,
Obama said, if all this doesn't work, we have triggers
and Obamacare that would other federal programs to make up
the deficit.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Did any of those things.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Happen, No, they didn't happen. The exact opposite happened. The
exact opposite happened. And Chuck Schooter gets on the floor
last night and says, this to the Republican healthcare crisis.
Not the Republican health care crisis. It's your health plan Obamacare.
The whole country runners runs under the rules established under Obamacare.
They they ended up, you know, high risk pools, which
(08:26):
used to be a great option for people, you could
pay for your health care and unless you had some
catastrophic event, and then and then the and then the
high risk poolsoul kick kids. They outlawed those things. Those
things were working very well. There there are so many
things that they now they have this program Bill. I'm
telling you it's full of fraud because they enroll people
(08:46):
with zero premiums. The insurance companies enroll them, and no
one knows who they are, where they are they and
the money goes directly to the insurance company. And we
know that there are millions of people. There was one
broker in Florida that got that got fined and arrested
for signing up, not one hundred and ninety thousand fictitious people,
(09:07):
all funded by the taxpayer's money going straight to the
insurance company because they have no checks and balances in
this This doesn't work for goodness stake sakes. I want
to fix it, but lets you got to be honest
about what the problem is before you can go about
fixing things.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They want to subsidize it more.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Obamacare insurers are getting about four hundred billion dollars a
year directly from the federal government and premium support. The
individual on Obamacare doesn't get the money. The insurance company
gets the money, and then they tell the insured, your
deductibility is now six thousand dollars or at seven thousand dollars.
You can't spend any money, you get no benefits till
it gets above that. You also have certain plans, so
(09:44):
you can't go to this doctor can't go to that doctor.
It's out a network. Got to go to this, got
to go to that. This thing is collapsed. That's failed.
Health savings accounts with catastrophic high risk pools is the
way to go. If a family of four would take
that twenty seven thousand dollars and put it into a
health say give me some account which might be over
three years in the range of seventy or eighty thousand
(10:05):
dollars sitting there ready to use for health care. Then
they have catastrophic high risk pools. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It would be great because then they would if they
didn't use it, then the money would be there for
them in the future when they had a problem. It
would give an incentive for people to shop to find
lower cost health care. It would force it would add
market forces into the process. Would it would give people
an incentive to take better care of themselves. Right now,
it doesn't work that way. And you know where the
(10:32):
money is going. Do you want to know what happened
during the last presidential campaign, ninety percent of the insurance
company money health insurance Company went to Kamala Harris versus
Donald Trump. They want the Democrats to continue to subsidize
this broken system.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So the party against good health care for Americans is
the Democratic Party, and they want to subsidize, subsidize a
failing system because they get huge campaign donations from the
health insurance care companies.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And the media doesn't cover it that.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I haven't seen one so called legitimate mainstream media outlet
deal with this the way you and I just have.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Have you have I missed something with NPR? Have I
missed it?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And Bill, I have to tell you. I have to
tell you. You know, I am the newest member of the
US Senate. I were working at the state level, and
I did not know how bad this was until I
got here and really had a chance to dig into
it a little bit. I didn't realize just how awful
of a failure Obamacare was until I've had a chance
to see it, you know, with a with a closer look.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And Democrats want to spend more on it. Lastly, you're
a Christian man. I'm a Roman Catholic. I think the
hungry should be fed. I think the homeless need help.
I watch US Department of Agricultural Secretary Brook Rollins said
of the forty two million Americans so to speak, on
SNAP about five million or dead people. The benefits still
(11:55):
roll out five million dead people. Another five million appear
to be illegal aliens, and the system is gained for benefit.
In addition of feeding the hungry, probably half the people
on food stamps need to be there, the other half
do not. In the nineteen seventies it was one out
of fifty and now today it's one out of eight.
People are enrolled in large numbers. These EBT cards can
(12:17):
be bought and sold and the dark market for fifty
cents on the dollar. And she says there's massive waste,
fraud and abuse in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program and
they want.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
To reform it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And this is without twenty one states, all the blue
ones not sending to the FEDS who's on SNAP. This
information about these millions of people getting freebies are dead
are from the red states.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
The Blue states will.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not notify USDA as to who's on to cross check
to see if they're alive or dead.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And so, yes, I want the hungary to be fed.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The freeste Ford fre Food Bank does great, great work,
but there's massive waste, fraud and abuse in the system,
and the Democrats in the media want the waste, fraud,
and abuse to continue while feeding the hungry, You're feeding
a bunch of other people.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Have you looked into the fraud, waste, and abuse? She says.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
One other fact, toy centered you said. I'm glad you
brought that up. In May of twenty twenty four, I
have a press release from US Department of Agriculture. This
is Biden's in the White House, Biden's tank quote. In
June in twenty twenty four, the USDA reports that about
eleven billion dollars it's not benefits paid in the fiscal
your twenty twenty three was improper. They were paid to
(13:26):
dead people, to those who don't exist, or they were
marketed on the dark market.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's from Joe Biden himself.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Why can't we reform these programs in such a way
as to feed the hungry and get all the freeloaders
and dead people off food stamps.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Why can't we do that?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, first of all, I want to focus on what
you said. First. Yes, there are a lot of poor people,
including children, yes, who don't who need the help, and
we don't want We want them to have food, to
have nutrition, and to be healthy. But it is one
of the Things Bill. We did increase the eligibility checks
in the in the Budget Reconciliation Package. The BBB is
(14:04):
we we know it more more fondly, so there there
are more eligibility checks in there. In that more needs
to be done. But I want to tell you a story. Uh,
when I was Lieutenant governor, I know, our people that
run the SNAP program found that there was there were
these bodegas, these neighborhood grocery stores in New York that
were running up hundreds of thousands of dollars of of Snap,
(14:29):
you know, cashing in for Snap benefits from ohioans, right
from Ohio Snap. Well, clearly that's not that's not fraud.
We know that that that that's not happening. We informed
the Biden administration of it to cut off that that
the you know, the the SNAP numbers, so that the
store could not charge anymore against it. They refused to
do it, Like you tell people that there's fraud going on,
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and and the Democrats in the past have refused to
address it. We did some of that in the Big
Beautiful Bill. I always think that there's more that we
can be done, But you're right, the Blue states don't
want to cooperate. I want to but remember what the
Democrats wanted it to beginning to shut down US for
us to vote to continue to allow medicaid to go
(15:13):
to illegal immigrants. And I want to touch on this
game again that gets played. They become sanctuary cities, they
become sanctuary states. Millions of illegals go to those cities
and states. What happens when they get sick? They go
to the hospitals. And you know what those states do.
They use the Medicaid program to reimburse the hospitals for
(15:36):
that quote uncompensated care. They do this. This is one
of the frauds that's going on. It's one of the
things that Democrats wanted us to vote for that we
stopped by standing strong in this latest budget fight.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Oh I can you know?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
An informed electorate is the republics the last a domain.
If we don't have an informed electorate understanding these issues,
we got no chance of succeeding long term. I'm glad
you're there, Senator john Used this afternoon. Hopefully Senator Sanders
doesn't object. If he does object, here we go. It'll
be another twenty four hours. But you're saying that this
thing we'll get to the House. I watched Speaker Mike
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Johnson this morning saying this is going to pass the House.
I watched the President said I'm going to sign it.
So the thing holding it up are the democratic games
being played, and the fact there's all these crises anywhere
is because the Democrats would not vote forty one days
go to feed the hungry.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I will commend the eight Democrats that finally did it.
There were three of them that were always with us.
Five more came along last night. But Bill, this is
the thing. You've got to feel bad for those eight Democrats.
The radical left that runs their party is pillaring them
today for doing what for doing the common sense thing
and just shutting or opening up governments so that people
(16:50):
can get paid, that we can keep our air traffic safe,
all that kind of stuff. Those eight Democrats are getting
the radical left runs their party. They've been beating them
up all day because what they did a reasonable, rational thing.
And so at least I'm going to give credit to
those eight Democrats who finally said that the madness has
to stop.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Good luck this afternoon, Senator, and thanks for reporting back
to the American people what's happening. In Washington, Senator John Housted,
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's continue with more. Which party voted do not feed
the hungry? Which party voted not to pay cops. Which
party voted to continue the subsidies of a failed government program,
what party voted to put in crisis the financial status
of this country. They're all Democrats. But watching the media,
you think Donald Trump's the problem? Are you kidding me?
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All right, Billy Cunningham, the great Americans welcome this Monday
afternoon in the price dates and the snow is everywhere,
whether it's terrible, So just saddle what next to your
radio and listen up. Last night went on the air
and my syndicator show. I'm watching all the channels and
their Senator John Houstad conducting the Senate. He is, of course,
the junior senator from the state of Ohio, in such
a way as to have the Senators vote to open
(00:29):
up the government subject to what's going to happen this afternoon.
Senator John Eusta, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Senator, can you tell the average American what in
the hell happened yesterday and what's going to happen later
this afternoon, because it takes all one hundred senators to
wrap this thing up. Where are we now as we
sit on early Monday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So there was a continuing resolution passed yesterday along
with three what they call minibuses and minute three appropriations
bills for the legislative branch for military construction, for agriculture,
which would includes snap and things like that. They put
them into one package. They would keep the government open
(01:11):
until the end of January, appropriate the money for those things.
But we've always needed sixty votes for this because the
Senate has a rule to in debate on something, you
have to have sixty votes. We'd had fifty five all on,
but last night five more Democrats joined us to get
to that sixty vote margin, and so we've crossed that
(01:35):
threshold now and today we will vote on the final package. However,
if one senator objects to it, it will delay the
vote until tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I can see that happening. You're in charge of
the Senate right now. Do you see that happening? That
one senator, maybe some Socialism Vermont, might say I object,
and then you're in this twenty four hour vote rama.
Do you have some indication that Democrats will let people
get their snap benefits where the Democrats allow air traffic
controllers to work, where the Democrats allow the FBI to
(02:06):
get paid.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And what happens if Sanader says.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, Well, if one senator says no, it will delay
the process another day. Essentially, That's that's what will happen.
Anyone can do it. But whoever that senator is, if
they want to delay, if they want to create more
delays at airports, if they want to stop people from
getting snap benefits, if they want to start, you know,
not pay their staff, not pay the TSA agents and
(02:32):
everybody else and all the families that are struggling, then
that Senator, I guess, can can face the American people
because that will it will be on them.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So Senator you said, come Hell or high Water. That's
one of my favorite movies. By the way, either it's
this afternoon or tomorrow, it will pass the Senate because
of the additional four or five Democrats, and then it'll
go to the House.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Is that correctly, Hell or High Water?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah? Yeah, Now we only need fifty votes because once
you once you asked the filibuster threshold of sixty and
you allow it to come to the floor for a vote.
Now you only need fifty votes to get the rest
of it done. So we're past the tough vote. We
will have the votes to get this final package done.
It's just a matter of when that will be. So.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Forty one days ago, the Democrats voted not to provide
somen benefits. The Democrats voted not to pay TSA in ATCs.
Forty one days ago, the Democrats had shut down the government,
and practically every Republican said keep the government open. So
for the last forty one days, what did the Democrats
gain by their shenanigans? Is anything different now than it
(03:40):
was forty one days ago?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Not really. No, we said this from the very beginning.
We just said, if you open the government up, we're
happy to give you a vote. And then you want
so now they're going to get a vote on their
Biden COVID bonuses that they put into bailout Obamacare. They'll
get a vote on that. There's no guarantee it'll pass.
As a matter of fact, if unless they do it
(04:05):
on a bipartisan basis, there's a probably little chance that
will pass. And so they got nothing other than they
caused pain and suffering for the American people. But we
always knew this is how it's going to end. We
were going to hold strong to our principles of opening
up the government and then negotiating like government like you're
supposed to do. Act like an adult. For goodness sakes,
(04:26):
you know, fund the government, keep services. The people are
paying for these services. It's just you're but they're not
getting them. And that's what's happening when you shut down
the government, and they should have stopped this long ago.
But here we are forty one days later, a lot
of inconvenience, a lot of way bill. Do you know
it's like four hundred million dollars a day to some
(04:50):
of these workers work, but a lot of the federal
government they were furloughed, they didn't work. The American people
got no services from them. Okay, but in the they're
going to end up paying back pay for nothing. And
that's what the Democrats did for us.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Let's step back, centator, you staid, look at Obamacare, and
I'm gonna play later on the comments of Obama himself
talking about the Unaffordable Care Act in real time what
he said was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'll play those events later.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm looking to my right at something put together by
insurance industry executives, so that if you're a family of four,
it costs about twenty seven thousand dollars a year for
your insurance premium, and each family member has deductibility up
to five to seven thousand dollars each. So if you're
a family of four, you've paid twenty seven thousand dollars
for your premium, and if all four of you have
healthcare crises going on, you have to get to five
(05:40):
thousand dollars each, just twenty thousand on top of twenty
seven thousand. So before you get a nickel and benefits
under Obamacare, you got to spend forty seven thousand dollars
and then you might get care from a doctor you
didn't choose.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And that's Obamacare that the Democrats are defending. In fact,
they want to expand it and make it more expensive.
Can do you understand that what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Obamacare doesn't work. It's been a failure. The Democrats created
the program. Not one Republican voted for it. They put
a bailout provision in during the COVID bailout to keep
these subsidies going for four more years that to expire
at the end of this year. The money doesn't go
to the consumer, It goes directly to the insurance company,
(06:25):
and then we have to hope that as a result
of giving that money to the insurance companies that they
will reduce the premiums for people. But what we really
know is that the insurance companies under Obamacare, their profits
are double. Their stock prices have increased double of what
all the other companies on the Dow Jones Industrial Average
have over that period of time. It's been a windfall
(06:47):
for insurance companies at the benefit of the American consumer
or at the detriment of the American consumer. And we're
stuck now. And Republicans have said, we want to fix
this because we want to down costs. You want to
talk about costs and affordability. The number one driver of
inflation in the twenty per century is healthcare under Obamacare,
(07:08):
and so we've got to fix it. But the Democrats
want to keep subsidizing it. And oh, by the way,
they don't. They want to subsidize it and make your
children and grandchildren pay for it because it would only
run up the deficit even more to continue their subsidies.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, it's failed, so subsidized it is the approach of
the Democrats when this thing passed. Number one, like your doctor,
keep your doctor, Like your plan, keep your plan. It's
going to reduce premiums by twenty five hundred dollars a year,
promises Obama said, it would reduce waste in the medical industry.
That would take four trillion dollars off the deficit, four
(07:47):
trillion dollars off the deficit. He said it would slow
the growth of premium increases. In fact, you'd get rebates.
And then he also said, if all this has failed,
Obama said, if all this doesn't work, we have triggers
and Obamacare that would other federal programs to make up
the deficit.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Did any of those things.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Happen, No, they didn't happen. The exact opposite happened. The
exact opposite happened. And Chuck Schooter gets on the floor
last night and says, this to the Republican healthcare crisis.
Not the Republican health care crisis. It's your health plan Obamacare.
The whole country runners runs under the rules established under Obamacare.
They they ended up, you know, high risk pools, which
(08:26):
used to be a great option for people, you could
pay for your health care and unless you had some
catastrophic event, and then and then the and then the
high risk poolsoul kick kids. They outlawed those things. Those
things were working very well. There there are so many
things that they now they have this program Bill. I'm
telling you it's full of fraud because they enroll people
(08:46):
with zero premiums. The insurance companies enroll them, and no
one knows who they are, where they are they and
the money goes directly to the insurance company. And we
know that there are millions of people. There was one
broker in Florida that got that got fined and arrested
for signing up, not one hundred and ninety thousand fictitious people,
(09:07):
all funded by the taxpayer's money going straight to the
insurance company because they have no checks and balances in
this This doesn't work for goodness stake sakes. I want
to fix it, but lets you got to be honest
about what the problem is before you can go about
fixing things.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They want to subsidize it more.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Obamacare insurers are getting about four hundred billion dollars a
year directly from the federal government and premium support. The
individual on Obamacare doesn't get the money. The insurance company
gets the money, and then they tell the insured, your
deductibility is now six thousand dollars or at seven thousand dollars.
You can't spend any money, you get no benefits till
it gets above that. You also have certain plans, so
(09:44):
you can't go to this doctor can't go to that doctor.
It's out a network. Got to go to this, got
to go to that. This thing is collapsed. That's failed.
Health savings accounts with catastrophic high risk pools is the
way to go. If a family of four would take
that twenty seven thousand dollars and put it into a
health say give me some account which might be over
three years in the range of seventy or eighty thousand
(10:05):
dollars sitting there ready to use for health care. Then
they have catastrophic high risk pools. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It would be great because then they would if they
didn't use it, then the money would be there for
them in the future when they had a problem. It
would give an incentive for people to shop to find
lower cost health care. It would force it would add
market forces into the process. Would it would give people
an incentive to take better care of themselves. Right now,
it doesn't work that way. And you know where the
(10:32):
money is going. Do you want to know what happened
during the last presidential campaign, ninety percent of the insurance
company money health insurance Company went to Kamala Harris versus
Donald Trump. They want the Democrats to continue to subsidize
this broken system.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So the party against good health care for Americans is
the Democratic Party, and they want to subsidize, subsidize a
failing system because they get huge campaign donations from the
health insurance care companies.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And the media doesn't cover it that.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I haven't seen one so called legitimate mainstream media outlet
deal with this the way you and I just have.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Have you have I missed something with NPR? Have I
missed it?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And Bill, I have to tell you. I have to
tell you. You know, I am the newest member of the
US Senate. I were working at the state level, and
I did not know how bad this was until I
got here and really had a chance to dig into
it a little bit. I didn't realize just how awful
of a failure Obamacare was until I've had a chance
to see it, you know, with a with a closer look.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And Democrats want to spend more on it. Lastly, you're
a Christian man. I'm a Roman Catholic. I think the
hungry should be fed. I think the homeless need help.
I watch US Department of Agricultural Secretary Brook Rollins said
of the forty two million Americans so to speak, on
SNAP about five million or dead people. The benefits still
(11:55):
roll out five million dead people. Another five million appear
to be illegal aliens, and the system is gained for benefit.
In addition of feeding the hungry, probably half the people
on food stamps need to be there, the other half
do not. In the nineteen seventies it was one out
of fifty and now today it's one out of eight.
People are enrolled in large numbers. These EBT cards can
(12:17):
be bought and sold and the dark market for fifty
cents on the dollar. And she says there's massive waste,
fraud and abuse in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program and
they want.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
To reform it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And this is without twenty one states, all the blue
ones not sending to the FEDS who's on SNAP. This
information about these millions of people getting freebies are dead
are from the red states.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
The Blue states will.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not notify USDA as to who's on to cross check
to see if they're alive or dead.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And so, yes, I want the hungary to be fed.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The freeste Ford fre Food Bank does great, great work,
but there's massive waste, fraud and abuse in the system,
and the Democrats in the media want the waste, fraud,
and abuse to continue while feeding the hungry, You're feeding
a bunch of other people.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Have you looked into the fraud, waste, and abuse? She says.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
One other fact, toy centered you said. I'm glad you
brought that up. In May of twenty twenty four, I
have a press release from US Department of Agriculture. This
is Biden's in the White House, Biden's tank quote. In
June in twenty twenty four, the USDA reports that about
eleven billion dollars it's not benefits paid in the fiscal
your twenty twenty three was improper. They were paid to
(13:26):
dead people, to those who don't exist, or they were
marketed on the dark market.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's from Joe Biden himself.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Why can't we reform these programs in such a way
as to feed the hungry and get all the freeloaders
and dead people off food stamps.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Why can't we do that?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, first of all, I want to focus on what
you said. First. Yes, there are a lot of poor people,
including children, yes, who don't who need the help, and
we don't want We want them to have food, to
have nutrition, and to be healthy. But it is one
of the Things Bill. We did increase the eligibility checks
in the in the Budget Reconciliation Package. The BBB is
(14:04):
we we know it more more fondly, so there there
are more eligibility checks in there. In that more needs
to be done. But I want to tell you a story. Uh,
when I was Lieutenant governor, I know, our people that
run the SNAP program found that there was there were
these bodegas, these neighborhood grocery stores in New York that
were running up hundreds of thousands of dollars of of Snap,
(14:29):
you know, cashing in for Snap benefits from ohioans, right
from Ohio Snap. Well, clearly that's not that's not fraud.
We know that that that that's not happening. We informed
the Biden administration of it to cut off that that
the you know, the the SNAP numbers, so that the
store could not charge anymore against it. They refused to
do it, Like you tell people that there's fraud going on,
(14:52):
and and the Democrats in the past have refused to
address it. We did some of that in the Big
Beautiful Bill. I always think that there's more that we
can be done, But you're right, the Blue states don't
want to cooperate. I want to but remember what the
Democrats wanted it to beginning to shut down US for
us to vote to continue to allow medicaid to go
(15:13):
to illegal immigrants. And I want to touch on this
game again that gets played. They become sanctuary cities, they
become sanctuary states. Millions of illegals go to those cities
and states. What happens when they get sick? They go
to the hospitals. And you know what those states do.
They use the Medicaid program to reimburse the hospitals for
(15:36):
that quote uncompensated care. They do this. This is one
of the frauds that's going on. It's one of the
things that Democrats wanted us to vote for that we
stopped by standing strong in this latest budget fight.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Oh I can you know?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
An informed electorate is the republics the last a domain.
If we don't have an informed electorate understanding these issues,
we got no chance of succeeding long term. I'm glad
you're there, Senator john Used this afternoon. Hopefully Senator Sanders
doesn't object. If he does object, here we go. It'll
be another twenty four hours. But you're saying that this
thing we'll get to the House. I watched Speaker Mike
(16:12):
Johnson this morning saying this is going to pass the House.
I watched the President said I'm going to sign it.
So the thing holding it up are the democratic games
being played, and the fact there's all these crises anywhere
is because the Democrats would not vote forty one days
go to feed the hungry.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I will commend the eight Democrats that finally did it.
There were three of them that were always with us.
Five more came along last night. But Bill, this is
the thing. You've got to feel bad for those eight Democrats.
The radical left that runs their party is pillaring them
today for doing what for doing the common sense thing
and just shutting or opening up governments so that people
(16:50):
can get paid, that we can keep our air traffic safe,
all that kind of stuff. Those eight Democrats are getting
the radical left runs their party. They've been beating them
up all day because what they did a reasonable, rational thing.
And so at least I'm going to give credit to
those eight Democrats who finally said that the madness has
to stop.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Good luck this afternoon, Senator, and thanks for reporting back
to the American people what's happening. In Washington, Senator John Housted,
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's continue with more. Which party voted do not feed
the hungry? Which party voted not to pay cops. Which
party voted to continue the subsidies of a failed government program,
what party voted to put in crisis the financial status
of this country. They're all Democrats. But watching the media,
you think Donald Trump's the problem? Are you kidding me?
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