2-25-26 Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in
the Tri State. Great you have you with me this afternoon,
getting ready for REDGS baseball and spring training in the
Cactus League coming up later on thirteen sixty Getting ready
for REDGS Baseball. I guess in about three and a
half weeks we're gonna have Red's opening day March twenty
sixth or so. But last night I can only say

(00:28):
that the state of Union addressed by the President reminded me.
I wasn't there in eighteen sixty three in July at
the Gettysburg address by Abraham Lincoln, but it had to
be a little bit longer, and it was just as
profound to me as an American to have such a
sense of pride in my nation and discussed for those
who wanted to have a different viewpoint about what happened
last night, But joner you and I now was Congressman

(00:48):
Warren Davidson who was in the hall, and I mentioned
you off the air, Congressman that I didn't see you
much on camera because you weren't holding up signs, didn't
have the F word on your lapel, and you stood
up at the right time and sat down at other times.
And first of all, give me, from your perspective, the
two or three highlights of last night's speech.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, it was really an honor to join you, and
what an amazing experience to be present for that state
of the Union in particular, it's an honor to get
to do this job. And that was particularly good, I
thought by the President of the United States. I mean,
and I think one of the best lines he had
that summed up really the presidency so far. What a
difference a president makes, right, because a lot of what
he's doing isn't that that we passed major laws.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's he just followed the law.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Like it's already illegal to enter the country illegally legally,
so he secured the border. And you know, we didn't
have to pass some new law for him to secure
the border. He just followed the law and secured the border.
And you know, he didn't have to create some new
law to remove people in the country illegally. He just
followed the law and removed people from the country who

(01:56):
are here illegally, just like Obama day, you know, with
Tom Hoe, who was the same guy that we'ma awarded,
you know for leading Ice before so.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
And you look at crime.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I thought one of the real moments that
kind of sums up the other part of the speech
is he talked about Arena Zarutzka, who was murdered on
public transportation in Charlotte, Charlotte, North Carolina by a guy
who's you know, more than twelve offenses, you know, but
set free with no cash bail. And we see some
of those kind of crazy practices going on in Cincinnati
and Hamilton County, but you don't see it in you know,

(02:31):
one county north or you know a county east. You know,
so these kinds of things that follow the law, and
for the life of us, we don't see how that's partisan,
but yet it is. And you saw it when Democrats
wouldn't even stand when he honored Arena Zerutzka's mother and
and some angel moms who you know, their children were

(02:51):
killed by illegal immigrants, and he's like, how do you
not stand for that? And you know, he's kind of
points to them, He's like, these people are crazy, and
I you know, that's the thing. It's like normal verse
is crazy. And I think it was highlighted in a
lot of ways last night.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
When the US hockey Olympic team came in Jack Hughes
and n Connor Hellbuck. I'm not much of a hockey fan.
I don't understand what it means to be off sides icing.
I don't know. I'm not sure what that meant, but
I do know that there was such a sense of
pride on that morning when most of us got up.
Twenty six million Americans watched all or part of the

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hockey and what happened at the end with Jack Ughes, etc.
And they had them come down there at the State
Union address. And then I watch MSNBC, so you don't
have to. I assume you didn't see this morning's coverage.
I watch it because I have to, and I want
to get a perspective of the radical left. Did you
know the USA Hockey team is a political prop that
are young men that don't know what they're doing, and

(03:47):
they're being used by the president to promote a right
wing agenda. Did you know that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm not surprised, you know. And probably the biggest ratio
ever on Twitter is the Huffington Post or the Huffington
Puffington Post, as Rush Limbo like to refer to them.
In the midst of men and women both winning gold medals.
They put out a tweet on x this said, you
know who's offended and just disgusted by all these flag

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waving ceremonies, And you're like, if you can't feel like USA, USA, USA,
right after the men and women win gold in the Olympics,
you know what's wrong with you? And you know that
isn't It's also like not partisan in our slice of America.
I mean, there's a few crazy people that give credence
to this, you know, in our neck of the woods.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But here in DC, somehow that's partisan.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But even for the hockey team, I will say Democrats
stood for the hockey team. They stood for that, and
they stood for the two medals of honor. And I
will say everybody there's probably twenty or thirty Democrats that
that didn't stand for anything, including the hockey team, including
two medals of honor, one guy one hundred years old,
one guy just from the Venezuela mission, an incredible heroic action.

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And then there were seventy or so that didn't even come.
You know, they held their own little counter protest out
there with the furries on the mall. So you know,
there are some crazy folks, but it's well out of
step with what most people believe in our neck of
the woods.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thankfully. I answer you off there about Congresswoman Rashida Talib
and also Maxine Waters, unrelated to Jesse Waters. I think
Fox News and you told me off the air that
Rashida Talib, who wore the F button, is sitting there
worldwide State of the Union address representing America. She's got
the F word on her lapel. And also Maxine Waters,

(05:39):
who has never had a good day. And I look
at those two and you told me off the air
that they're kind of normal people away from the microphones.
Is that? Are they normal?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You go at times and you're like, I don't know
if they have split personality or not. You know which
one's the real personality, but they're both in the kit
bag and you see, you know, mad max Maxine Waters
is at time, you know, that's her brand publicly and rare.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Sheated to lead.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Can seem pretty toxic, but in other situations you talked
to him, they seem like reasonable, like okay, decent neighbors,
maybe even just to avoid politics, you know. And it
is an interesting place in that way, and there's things
that don't make the news, like we've passed a housing bill,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, unanimously about a
month ago in Financial Services Committee, unanimously out of our committee,

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and three hundred and ninety votes on the floor of
the House. So not con the partisan Republican bills out,
the partisan Democrat bills out, and they're both on the
Financial Services Committee. And you know, we were able to
work together constructively because people do want housing to be
more affordable for everyone. But then if you go do
the interviews, generally they'll come up with some toxic comment
and blame Trump for everything.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, it's unbelievable. And last night was lengthy, almost two
hours long. And I said at the end, I asked
out about this, tweeted out about this, that maybe there
should be a vote by acclamation that in twenty twenties
we call off the presidential election and simply let Trump
serve as long as he wants. How popular would that.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Be, Well, it'd be very popular with about twenty or
thirty percent of the base, but it'd be extremely unpopular
with a lot of the rest of the country. And
he did have a funny joke He's think it should
be his third term right now, because you know, I
think there's a lot of evidence that there was a
lot of problems with the twenty twenty election. Obviously, that's
still something that resonates with President Trump and a lot

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of our constituents, you know, and that's where, like, you know,
you talk policy in the future. One of the things
President Trump laid out was past the Save America Act,
which is very simple and it's already the law in Ohio.
You got to show voter ID. There's only teen states
that you don't have to have voter ID in. But
all the Democrats united and saying, oh, this is terrible

(07:47):
and it's oppressive and it stops women in minorities from voting.
And I'm like, well, apparently the women in minorities in
Ohio have found a way to vote, you know. And
the other one is you've got to be a citizen.
And you know, we had a referendum on that in
Ohio a couple of years ago, I think twenty twenty two,
and you know, my Democrat opponent at the time said, oh,
there are no illegal people, so everyone should be able

(08:07):
to vote. Even the state Democratic Party wouldn't touch that.
They're like, look, this isn't you know, the illegals, of
course shouldn't vote in Ohio, but you do have states
where they're doing it, and that's why we need to
pass it. You have fourteen states in particular that are
really bad on these kinds of issues, and you know,
it seems like we ought to get Republicans in Democrats
from all the other states, and at least the Republicans

(08:29):
from those fourteen states to say, yeah, this is common sense,
but it breaks on party lines and we can't find
a way to get it through the Senate.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's passed twice in the House congressmen on the issue
of illegal voting. Right now, parts of the federal government
are shut down. That is, this Secret Service is not
being paid, Homeland Security is not being paid large numbers
of people. We have a crisis on the Eastern seaboard
with the blizzard that hit. I would assume soon there'll
be more weather crises of one type or another. TSA

(08:58):
is not being paid, and so that's being done so
to coerce you to change the rules, to change the
law when it comes to when it comes to ice.
What is the status of the Voter Protection Act, the
so called Safe Act as we speak this Wednesday afternoon.
By the way, two thirty five. Today we go to
rets baseball with the Chicago White Sox. But nonetheless, d

(09:19):
you see by the end of the week this thing
ending in the Democrats voting to reopened the government.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, you know, we we found a way to
get it through because we can push it out on
party lines in the House. But the real hang up
is the Senate. And you know, Schumer's put out his
list of demands. President Trump's negotiat England Schumer and you
could see last night he's like, look amount of patience
to you guys. You're just you know, pushing for things
that aren't going to happen. And we already funded ICE,
so they're doing it over defund ice. Ice is already funded.

(09:46):
We funded that with a big, beautiful bill, so there's
no change there. And the things that they want to
do with ICE are you know, essentially to get them
to stop enforcing the law or you know, so there
are some some reform that people could agree to and say, okay, fine,
we can be you know, you know clear cut about
how ICE works and everything were professionalized, but the same

(10:08):
they want to get rid of ICE. Well, they used
ICE as travel agents back when Joe Biden was president.
They had tents set up at the border and the
same guys that work at ICE today were being deployed
temporary duty to go down to the border and basically
say which sanctuary city would you like to go to?
And morale was just in the pits. I mean, these guys,
you you you knew what they were doing before you

(10:30):
get to the border, but you couldn't appreciate it until
you went on the ground and just saw like they
joined you know, customs in bor Patrol or ICE because
they wanted to secure the border. They want to defend
America and they know they were doing the opposite at
the time. Well, now you have people that have you know,
orders from the president to follow the law and do
you know their job that they came to do, and

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they're they're deploying in cities around the country and they're
making them more safe like Washington, d C. Like you know,
even Minneapolis at some marginal level hopefully is a little
more safe. But Memphis and you know New Orleans, places
where we've a surge of enforcement effort just to focus
on applying the law and we need to shut down

(11:12):
these sanctuary cities.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
If you look at the cartels, if you follow.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
The news, you know the Mexican government took out one
of the leaders of the New Hollisco cartel down there
and arrested some other cartel members, and they responded with
essentially acts of terror, including against Americans and shutting off
roads and everything else. These are the kinds of people
that are embedded in cities all over the country and

(11:37):
not random cities sanctuary cities, because they're like, yeah, okay,
these are strategic locations, so come here and we'll keep
you safe. And that's what places like Minneapolis are doing.
And so they're completely not cooperating at times. And I
will say they improved that when Tom Homan went up
and negotiated with them. So hopefully we can just fund

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the government and get on with life, right.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Congressman Warren Davidson on that, you brought up the issue
the same laws operating now or exactly the same laws
under Barack Husain Obama when more than five million illegals
were deported, the same law, and you talk about Hamlet
County and maybe Butler County, and I know Kenton County
had on the rob Sanders the other day that the
same law applies to Sincere Griggsby in Hamlet County as

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to another Sincere Griggsby that might be in Butler County.
By that, I mean this, We had a ring of
a young individuals stealing cars that they would use to
commit robberies, burglaries, and just joy writing to watch them
wreck and destroy people's lives. One of those individuals, Ryan Hinton,
was killed by Cincinnati police when he pointed a gun
at a cop, and he's dead. One of the other

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crew members, a guy named Sincere Griggsby. He was given probation,
of course, for all those activities. He is a nasty
previous criminal record. He's in front of Judge Katie Cash
and she gives him a probation. While on probation, he
was three weeks after probation was granted, he's back to
his arm robbery ways, sticking guns in people's faces and

(13:04):
stealing money. He then goes back to court the next
day under arrest and he gets a very low bond.
Since here greags me, let's say in Butler County and
your district now involves I think at least Butler County
and parts of Hamblety County. What if in Butler County
the same section sections of the law were violated by
some person in Hamilton, do you think they'd be dealt
with the same way. No, they're a clearly different approach.

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I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And the great thing is is in Hamilton County, you know,
the local law enforcement did their jobs. They arrest the guy,
they find him, you got to prosecute him, and then
you bring them before a judge and you get these
creampuff sentences and they're back on the street. And it
does demoralize law enforcement because you go bring people in
and they're like, well, there's not going to be no justice.
I mean, he ringing miners, and there is no justice

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for some of these people.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
They have a very different approach through the county.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And this is where you want to think, well, look,
the facts and circumstances of cases matter, so judges should
be able to you know, judge, that's that's.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Literally their job.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
And but but then you go, well, look, we clearly
have people that aren't capable of exercising reasonable judgment, so
we need mandatory sentencing laws. And and that's where you see,
like the case in Charlotte where this guy that killed
Arena Zarutskas slashed her throat and stabbed her. Uh and
she bled out in seconds right after that. Just a

(14:26):
horrific thing to watch the video of. But this case,
you know, a dozen plus times violent crimes and then
he gets no bail. Yeah, you know, and and you
know at some point you're like, shouldn't there be like
you've done enough violence, you get an extra ten years,
Like we're not reforming this person. They just need to
be set aside from society. And the reality is if

(14:48):
you took like, you know, the top you know, few
percentage yet few percentage points of people that commit crimes,
and you're talking maybe two hundred people in all of
Hamilton County, if you just put them in jail, the
crime rate would go down by like eighty percent.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right, Democrats don't want them. I don't want that. I
don't want that.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, and that's where you're like, we shouldn't have to
go to mandatory sentencing things, but apparently you do because
judges just don't exercise judgment and somehow they get elected,
which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, lastly, on one other issue of last night's State
of Union address was that illegal truck drivers should be
able to read English. Good friends of mine in the business,
Wayne Carucci, Jeff Beckham, and others are outraged with the
idea that truck drivers cannot read and speak English. They
have no idea what the signs are saying. And last
night they had a child there that was mortally wounded
by an illegal alien. Shouldn't been on the roads with

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an eighteen wheeler and fifty five pounds going seventy five
miles an hour. They can't read English. Is that law
now been changed so that only those who can read
English can drive a big truck? Well, that's already been
the law.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
The President's just basically clarifying with an executive order to
push Dot.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Department's resportation to go out and enforce it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And because you know, the licenses themselves are being granted
by states and uh, and so they're not screening for
things that they're supposed to uh when they issue the license.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
And so.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
They're cracking down on truck drivers who are illegals for
one and two that you know can't understand the language.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
And yeah, and then the other.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Part is that it's a crackdown as well. And the
President didn't emphasize this last night. But Sean Duffy, who's
just a missing being.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
In the house.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
The guy is a great just a great person and
was very effective here, but he's been very effective as
the Secretary of Transportation.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Hoping to get him here in Ohio soon.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But uh, he's cracking down on the shell companies that
these guys create as well, which you know, if if
they get caught with a truck driver that does a
horrible accident like that, of course there's going to be
lots of legal liability, but they keep no assets in them,
and then they just bang in corupt it right away,
so there's no payout. And then they've got another shell
company that's like instantly already got a a license with

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DOT and they start operating uninterrupted with all the same
illegal It.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Can't happen, you know, it can't happen because, as you said,
the same law that applies now applied under Obama, and
all you began by saying, how about enforcing the law?
What a novel concept, Warren Davidson, We've got to go.
And I just think by acclamation, we should just thank
God that God gave us Donald Trump and that somehow
we need to keep this guy as long as we
can with the power. And we can't lose midterm elections

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and turn things over to Rashid Talib and elon Omar.
We can't do that. Got to run, Warren Davidson, Good
luck to you and God bless you, and God bless America.
Thank you very much, bless you and all your listeners.
Thank you. Let's continue with Mora news. Coming up in
my comments later on is Adam Byrd and later on
is also is an expert on Larry Bird and more

(17:54):
to your home of the Reds and Bengals. Course, the
Reds today at about two thirty five, teed up against
the White Sox on News Radio seven hundred WW. You
know I'd hit the music, Dave Keaton, hit the music.
Great to be with you this afternoon practice. Great to
be anywhere I'd rather be seen than viewed. Coming up later,
we have Reds Baseball on the Big One starting about

(18:15):
two thirty five this afternoon. The Reds and the White
Sox live in the Cactus League Action. See what happens
with that. After two o'clock today, I want a guest
that wrote a book called Heartland. Keith O'Brien's going to
be here to talk about the life and times and
one Larry Bird. It's a fabulous story. Getting ready for
March Madness. I'm not sure there'll be a lot of
local teams in March Madness this year. I guess it's possible,

(18:39):
but quite unlikely. And he's going to talk about the
life and times of Larry Bird. And normally I don't
cover a lot of sports stories. I leave it up
to Lance and Rock and many others. But this one
with the Larry Bird is incredible. We'll talk about that
later on after one o'clock today is unrelated. Bird we
have Adam Bird. Bird is the word. Talk about this

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speech last night, the State of the Union address, which
I compared to the Gettysburg address just longer. And also
we have coming up later the Student's Report at one
thirty five and more. But getting back to the State
of the Union address, there were several highlights, and there
were so many highlights. And this guy referring to Donald
Trump has grown into the presidencies in ways that I

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simply sit back to admire what he's done. And the
drama having someone present in the hall began with Ronald
Reagan and over the last forty or forty five years
has become an art form. But last night it was
practiced in a way that we could never equal. The
of the Union address for the drama USA Hockey team
being introduced to watch Jack Hughes and then Connor Helbok.

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I'm not much of a hockey fan. I leave that
up to the segment. I don't understand icing offsides, that
kind of stuff. It's the toughest the sports because you're
traveling at high rates of speed. Physicality is involved. You're
gonna get hurt, You're gonna get hit. It's almost like
football on ice. On top of that, you have to maneuver.
I puck a biscuit on a wooden stick and drive

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it into a net at high rates of speed over
one hundred and fifty miles an hour. The skaters are
going maybe thirty to forty miles an hour. It's an
incredible sport. I wish I got into it earlier, like
Chris Sabo did in Michigan, but I didn't. But when
the US Hockey team came down into the arena and
they were wind dying in pocket line first in Miami.
Have you seen some of the video out of Miami.

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They were supposed to land in New York, but because
of the snowstorm a couple of days ago, on Monday,
they land into Miami. They partied all night long on
the clubs in Miami, well known by Segman Dennison. He's
a South Beacher kind of a guy. Then they get
up early, go Tuesday, do some more media appearances. Tuesday night,
they show up in the State of the Union address,
see the President in the Oval office and he announces

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that Connor Helbik's going to get the Medal of Freedom.
Jack Hughes was there with his chipped teeth, the American
flag wrapped around him in his mouth, a bleeding, incredible moment.
But by the way, it is common for that to
occur the radical left, the New Democratic Party, and that's
not the Old Democratic Party. In nineteen eighty, for example,

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in Lake Placid to New York, when the hockey team
then beat the USSR. In the locker room with the
players was Walter Mondale. At that point there was a
believe it or not, a wall phone they used to
exist water. Mondale puts on Jimmy Carter, the President, to
speak to the US Olympic team in nineteen eighty and
that was. I was certainly around at that point out

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on the radio, and it was just a high moment
to celebrate being an American. You know, sports ought to
be uniting us, not dividing us. I think when the
Seahawks won the NFL title, not too many people felt
that was a kind of a coming together moment. In basketball,
you know, the Oklahoma City Thunder winning the NBA title,
that was nice, but it wasn't uniting. And the college

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football when in the end of the Hoosiers won the
national title, what an incredible story. That didn't like bring together.
If you weren't a high state fan, that wasn't a
big deal. And in college baseball and LSU one that
was interesting. But there's something about the Olympics. When you
wear the colors of red, white and blue of the
United States of America, you don't represent yourself, you represent
the country. Then you succeed famously. It's a coming together moment.

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But not if you're a new left type democrat I'm
talking about. I'm not talking about the Charlie Lukens of
this world, and the John Cranleys of this world, and
the Anthony Celebrezes of this world. The verned rif's of
this world. I'm not talking about the Democratic Party of old.
It's a new Democratic party, the Democratic Socialists, and they're
not happy at all. I watched the MSNBC this morning
so you don't have to, and they went after the

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US hockey Olympic team for being used by Donald Trump
to promote a right wing agenda. Nobody would ever accuse
Obama of the same behavior. When he was in the
locker room in twenty twelve when the American basketball team
won the gold medal, I thought, great, that's wonderful. The
president should be there. But today everything is completely political.

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And with those who watched the State of Union address,
as I did assiduously, sixty four percent enjoyed it greatly.
The other thirty five percent or new left radical democratic socialist.
Another high point to me was the one hundred year
old aviator US Air Force Royce Williams, who flew in
World War Two, who flew in Korea and also flew

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in Vietnam, and he suffered injuries, says his plane was
shot two hundred and sixty three bullet holes in it.
He's living an exemplary life. Got the Medal of Honor
and then Officer Eric Slover slo VR. He was the
Shanook helicopter pilot who ferried some twenty members of special

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Forces to the top of Maduro's compound there in Caracas,
and he was mortally wounded. He was shot. His blood
was running down the Shanook helicopter. He would not give up.
He had a mission to do and he did it.
And he shows up in the House chamber for the
State Union addressed with two canes and his wife in
one arm. And then you have a general put the

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medal of honor around his neck. Then you had Sergeant
Andrew wolf He was the There was two shot in
the back of the head by a radical illegal from
Afghanistan just a day before Thanksgiving. And you might know
that Sarah Bestrom, police police officer slash specialist National Guard

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from West Virginia. Sarah Bestrom was murdered and then Sergeant
Andrew Wolfe survived. You wasn't supposed to make it. You
and I were together at that point thinking there's no
way it's not going to be two instead of one.
He's fought back like a warrior poet for the last
five or six months, and he was in the chamber
then they also had seven year old Delilah Coleman. Was there,

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a little girl who was severely injured in a car
wreck because an the legal alien truck driver, of which
there are thousands on the road as I speak right now.
If you're on I seventy one, seventy five, two seventy five,
we're I seventy. There are thousands of illegal truck drivers,
generally from Eastern Europe, that are given licenses from blue cities,

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blue states to drive trucks when they can't read it
the English and they're not competent. And then what happens
if you're caught, You bankrupt that LLC, quickly have another
LLC and just keep on going. And she was there
to indicate the results of the policies of the new
Left Democratic Socialist Party, the illegal truck drivers and more.
I have to expect that Bad Bunny would be delivering

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the response instead of Governor Spansburger afterwards. To me, it
was simply dramatic, simply great. And one of the highlights
to me also was the de transitioning lawsuits that have
been filed. And this was only about two or three minutes,
but it's happening right now in Greater Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky.
He had Sage Blair and her parents stand up. She

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was a teenager who in twenty twenty three her parents
final lawsuit against the Appamatox County High School staff socially
transitioning her without her parent knowledge. She was on social
media for a long time, and that this point she
was twelve years old, and she became convinced because of
school counselors. Though her body parts indicated she was a female,

(26:12):
she thought she was a male, and so, according to
the lawsuit, Blair began identifying as a male at school.
She would leave the house dressed as a girl, and
then get to school, go in the bathroom, and come
out dressed as a boy. The staff started using male
pronouns to describe her, and she was allowed to use
the male facilities without informing her parents. And of course

(26:35):
she was a biological female. And the lawsuit from last
night alleges, and I potted up on my computer to
read it that Blair ran away from home. She had
severe mental difficulties. When she ran away from home, she
fell into the grasp of sex traffickers all here illegally,
I might add, And she was kidnapped and raped and
sold in several states without her parents' knowledge or consent

(26:59):
to the transitioning, and they went through a living hell
to try to find her. And Trump said that Blair
was fourteen when school officials sought to socially transition her
to a new gender, treating her as a boy and
holding it from her parents. Psychologists testified that because she
was being trafficked as a teenage girl with female body parts,

(27:20):
that she wanted to identify as a boy to stop
the rape. Now is that something that society should stand against.
And there was a judge, a federal judge, a liberal
federal judge, who originally said that's okay, it's her right
at the age of thirteen or fourteen to decide which
gender she wants to be. I might add she was

(27:41):
having severe mental difficulties. If someone is schizophrenic and they
heard voices, the last thing to do is to tell
that schizophrenic you know you're right, I hear the voices too.
Or if some person is blaeming and they have some
mental difficulties, the last thing to do is thinking, you
know what, you shouldn't eat, You should herge because after all,

(28:01):
you look a little heavy to me. We never have
a mental illness, well, we feed into what the person's
claiming to be their mental illness and saying, you know what,
you're right. And so when someone claims to be a
different biological gender than they are, we should not say,
you know what, you're right. We wouldn't tell uschizophrenic, who's
hearing voices you know what. I'm hearing them too, I

(28:23):
hear the voices. You're right. And if someone's having mental
disorders occasioned by God knows what in their life and
they identify as something they truly are not, that is
a problem that needs mental and psychiatric services. And in
her case, it took a couple of years to get
her out of the clutches of the sex trafficking network
in which she found herself and when she ran away

(28:46):
from home later became a victim of sex trafficking. She
then wanted to identify before and after as a male
to stop the rape of her, and the Democratic Party,
the new Democratic Socialist Party, not the old Democratic Party
of Charlie Luken and John Cranley now say that's her
right at the age of twelve, thirteen or fourteen to

(29:06):
identify and get medical treatment that is not appropriate and
which feeds into a mental illness. We never tell someone
who is believe me that you look heavy to me.
We don't do that. You say you need some help,
and we're going to get you help. You never tell
somebody hearing voices. You know what, I hear them too.
You don't tell somebody who's being transitioned when they're twelve, thirteen,

(29:27):
fourteen years old. Yep, Blair, in fact, you're a male,
but you're in a female body. We have to have
mutilation to get you in line with what you truly feel.
It's a mental illness should be treated as such. So
I thought that was particularly profound. And the girl now
is about sixteen years old. She's back with her mom
and dad. She's in treatment, and thank god, she went

(29:49):
through their hormonal treatment and therapies through a school counselor
and a convenient doctor. But once it once she ran
away from home and she was in transitioned at that
point because she we had the right Bardi parts body
parts for her pimp to sell her correctly. And it
is so disgusting. What is happening to thousands of kids

(30:09):
in the tri State who have mental difficulties, which all
of us have at one point or another. You've had them,
I've had them. I have difficulties in my life quite
often thinking I got the blues, I'm not feeling quite right,
I've accomplished nothing in my life. I get down on myself,
and I have my loving wife to tell me that's
not the case. She should not say if I'm having
some profound difficulties with my place in life, telling me

(30:32):
I'm correct and having those feelings, you get help and
the help is available. And so last night, whether it
was Jack Hughes or Connor Helbeck or Royce Williams, or
or Officer Eric Slover or Sergeant to Andrew Wolfe, also
the mom and dad of slain National Guardsman Sarah Bextrom,

(30:53):
was there murdered a course by an illegal alien from Afghanistan.
Acts as if it's okay, it's normal. No, it's not normal.
And so the policies that Donald Trump is now enforcing
are the same laws and policies enforced by Barack Hussain
Obama when over five point two million were thrown out
of the country. And for some reason, the Modern Democratic
Socialist Party is now believing that somehow the path to

(31:16):
great success politically is to convince you that their policies
are successful. And if they are, look at what's happening
right now in major cities in this country. Look what's
happening in Cincinnati. But Brian Combs just had it. Two
more people were shot and killed at a playground and
the city of Cincinnati the bloods running in the streets,
and what city Council concerns herself with is a bunch

(31:38):
of Bovine's catology instead of dealing with public safety. So
let's continue with more, and once again, after one o'clock today,
we're going to have Adam Bird to talk about the
representative talk about the state of Union address and what
is happening to transitioning children through the public school system
into a different gender instead of getting them the help
they need, and they need help. And also after two

(32:01):
thirty five today will be Red's Baseball Alive on the
Big One, the White Sox and the Reds teeing it up.
And also after two o'clock today I have an expert
on Larry Bird, Keith O'Brien getting ready for March Madison
more just a little preview of that. Can you imagine
Larry Bird, the great basketball player, recruited by Robert Montgomery

(32:21):
Knight to go play for Indiana. He doesn't fit in,
doesn't look quite right. He's not very quick, and he
can't jump, and he's ugly. And he's at Indiana with
Quinn Buckner and Scott May and all the rest in
the general He's in pickup games and they don't throw
him the ball. He's not part of the team. He
quits school, hitchhikes from Bloomington to french Lick, where he

(32:46):
takes the job as a garbage man picking up garbage.
And French Lick is an eighteen and a half year
old boy and his father kills himself, commits suicide. You
talk about someone at the bottom. Four years later, Larry
Bird is playing for the national title against Magic Johnson's
Michigan State team. By the way, Michigan State beat at
that point undefeated Indiana State the Sycamores. But then he

(33:10):
was drafted by the Boston Celtics and the rest is history.
So if you're down on the dumps, if things aren't
going right, think about Larry Bird, eighteen and a half
years old as a garbage man picking up garbage. And
French lick. Four years later he's playing for the national title.
Six or seven years later, he's a Celtic. They win
the three national championships NBA, the Larry of Brian Trophy,
he wins three or four MVPs, and he's wine, dying

(33:32):
and pocket lined. No matter how bad things are in
your life, guess what they can and should get better
when you act properly. Well, let's continue with more after
one o'clock Today will be Adam Bird and Moore at
Show of the Reds and the White Sox playing at
two thirty five Today, Bill Cunningham the Great American live
on News Radio seven hundred WLW Cunningham the Great American,

(34:01):
and once again we'll pick up the pieces of the
State of Union address from last night. One of the
most remarkable things I saw, I saw many remarkable things,
was the USA hockey team, and then I saw the
military heroes being honored and the seven year old Delilah
Coleman who was severely injured by the legal truck driver.
And I think bad Bunny may have given the democratic

(34:22):
response Bad Bunny. I'm not sure who that woman was,
but bad Bunny, I guess was unavailable also transgender rights.
That the President said, you know what transgender rights, parents
should have a say and whether or not there a
boy becomes a girl with vice versa. Democrats didn't like
that at all. And when the President said, do you
support Americans or legal aliens? I think one Democrat stood

(34:45):
out of about one hundred and eighty. Of course they
were about ninety that didn't show up at all, and
so they sat on their hands. Jodan you nine now
is representative Adam Byrd and Adam Bird. Welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, are you
related to Larry Bird? I have a guest on coming
up to talk about Larry Bird. Are you related to
Larry Bird? Adam Bird?

Speaker 4 (35:05):
You know, Larry Bird is one of the greatest players
in NBA history, and I would like to be related,
And I say, I am, but I have no proof of.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It, but you like to be because Larry Bird was
pretty good on the basketball court. Now let's go to
the state of Union address. What were the A couple
of things last night from a political perspective, you found
very attractive to what the President said, and I compared
it maybe to the second Gettysburg addressed that might be
an overstatement a little bit. I stood up several times
and applauded by myself. I thought it was wonderful. It

(35:34):
was great. Gettysburg address. I have a dream maybe the
second inaugural speech of George Washington. Maybe the address to
the nation by Eisenhower nineteen sixty as he left the presidency.
Give me the two or three things that you found
quite impressive.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, you know, first of all, Republicans got a workout
last night, didn't they getting up and down at all
of the positive things. They burned a lot of calories last night, Willie.
But the two things that really stuck out to me
was the fact that Democrats could not stand up and
recognize that the first duty of government is to protect

(36:11):
American citizens. Did you see that they refuse to stand
for that, Willie. That is unbelievable. Who are these people
that claim to want to represent our nation and govern
us when you can't admit that the first duties to
protect Americans. The second thing was honoring the hockey team, Willie.
That was an unbelievable patriotic moment, and Democrats refused to

(36:33):
stand for that too.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Well, when you're against the USA hockey team, and I
point out to make this thing less political. Now, maybe
you don't recall this. I know Tony Bender does, he's
an old guy. But in nineteen eighty in Lake Placid,
New York, when the American hockey team, which were college kids,
beat up on the USSR, in the locker room after
the game, there was Walter Mondale, the sitting vice president

(36:56):
and other cabinet officials with Jimmy Carter celebrate with the team.
I know Cash Patel has caught a liven crap because
he went in there. And he's a hockey player. By
the way, Cash Patel, FBI director, has amateur hockey in
his blood and he still plays on a hockey team
in Washington when he has time. And he caught serious
flock for celebrating with the Americans. Jack Hughes, etc. And

(37:18):
also Connor Helbuck who got the metal Freedom last night.
And in nineteen eighty, under similar circumstances, Water Mondale was
in the locker room and he went to the wall.
He might recall in those days there were wall phones
and President Jimmy Carter spoke with the hockey team in
the locker room after they beat the Soviets, and there
have been numerous other examples, like Obama going into the

(37:40):
locker room of a victorious NBA champion and President Obama
went into the locker room of the Olympics when he
was the president in twenty twelve to celebrate with Magic
Johnson and others. And it's part of the American tradition
to embrace winning and to embrace this and so to
go after the president. And I watched ms NOW this morning,

(38:02):
so you don't have to MSNBC, thank you, thank you.
I did it on your behalf. And I watched their
commentators talking about the USA hockey team, that Jack Hughes
and all the other guys, and that they were political props.
Do these young men know they're being used by the
president to advance a right wing and gender band for
this country? And so that who's politicizing the hockey team?

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, the left is and ms NOW is. And by
the way, Cash Fottel was invited into the locker room,
what do you want him to do? Say? Know, you know,
if you're an American, if you're a red blooded American
and you're a patriot and you love our country and
you love your sports, how can you say no to that?
The FBI director or any member of government that was

(38:45):
afforded that opportunity would go in and celebrate the team
if they were asked to do that. And oh, by
the way, the fact that he was in the locker
room allowed the President of the United States to call
and talk to the team right away. So that was
an unbelievable patriotic moment for our country. And if you
can't see that, we've got deep problems of political divide

(39:06):
in our country.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
One other issue arose, which was the girl. She was transitioning,
not because her parents wanted it, but because the school.
Something like this is an incredible number. Twenty six percent
of teenage girls identify as something other than heterosexual twenty
six percent, and the great majority consider themselves to be fluid,

(39:29):
but something the range of seven percent of teenage boys
and girls consider themselves to be transgender. That is, biology
doesn't exist, reality doesn't exist. And the worst part of
this is that in many parts of our nation, blue cities,
blue states, blue school districts. Guess what the parents are
not told if their girl wants to become a boy
or vice versa. And in this case, she began the

(39:50):
process of transitioning from being a girl to becoming a
boy without the knowledge, of course, to parents at home
notice some change in behavior. And so she was encapsulated
in some legal proceeding in which a liberal federal judge
took away temporary parental rights a mom and dad so
the transition could continue. Somehow, she got out of that world,

(40:11):
got back to her family, and now she's a girl,
and they didn't go through the mutilation process to change
the sexual parts to make them different. Is there something
in Ohio that would keep a parent from knowing what's
happening to their transitioning child.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
If that's the case, there's a couple of things. Wellie,
I'm so glad you asked that question. So, first of all,
Ohio one of the first states in the Union to
ban transgender mutilation surgery. Now we've got to make sure
that it's not happening, and we've got to make sure
that it's being enforced adequately by the Attorney General's office
and researching and all of that kind of thing. But

(40:47):
we are one of the first states to protect our
young girl from this predatory kind of behavior. And then
also last, I think it was two years ago, maybe
one year ago, we passed a parent's bill of rights
that said that as a school, you cannot talk to
my child about transgender issues without telling me. You have
to inform me of these kinds of conversations that are

(41:09):
occurring with my child at school, and you can't do
that without my knowledge. So that was passed, and again, Willie,
we're forced to make sure that these kinds of things
are being properly enforced across the Ohio.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, so let's on a related matter about parnal rights
Princeton High School. There have been others Walding Hills High
School and others in Ohio have scheduled walkouts of their
student body. A couple parents got a hold of me
from the Princeton school district. I'm not sure this happened
in New Richmond, the home of the Lions, but nonetheless

(41:43):
in Princeton, the students at two o'clock, while class was
going on in mass left Princeton High School, walked across
the street to the football stadium and I guess protested
ice on the field and the students involved did not
get parental permission. In fact that the parents know nothing
about it. Several parents have skilled the Prince called the
Princeton School Board, Princeton High School, and then and they

(42:06):
got no return call. Well, what does a parent do
if your child is used as a political prop by
the radical left during school hours to protest law enforcement?
What can lawmakers do about that one?

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a really important issue, Willie,
And I'm glad you bring it up, because you know,
these schools are being funded by the taxpayer. Your property taxes,
your federal income taxes are coming back, and then of
course your state taxes are coming back to that school.
And so to for the public to subsidize a school
that is allowing this to happen, that that is very concerning,

(42:43):
and they shouldn't be allowing that to happen. There should
be repercussions to those students who walk out of school,
you know, there should be something. You shouldn't just allow
it to happen. I am suspiciously that there might be
actually teachers in that school that are jetting up the
all of this and talking kids into doing it and
promising that they won't be in trouble. I'd be really interested, Willie,

(43:06):
if your listeners think that schools that permit this kind
of behavior should have some kind of defunding mechanism to them.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, I mean the pocketbook issue. And I'm sure that
the teachers and the teachers' unions would be in favor
of undermining law enforcement because the leader of the teachers'
unions nationally has the same approach. She encourages this under
the banner of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom
of assembly, that doesn't apply in this situation at all.
You don't have the freedom of speech when you work

(43:33):
for an employer. Don't have freedom of speech at work.
You don't have freedom of assembly when you're supposed to
be in school paid for by the taxpayer to be educated.
You don't have the right at that point to exercise
those rights. There's ways of doing that if you have
those viewpoints. It can be downe elsewhere, but not during
class hours under the auspices of Princeton High School. And
I tend to think if there was a vote taken

(43:53):
by the teachers at Walton Hills or Princeton, they would
probably vote in favor of this activity. In fact, they
encourage it because if the if the teachers are against
it and the principles against it, I would think it
would not happen, So there was an acquiescence or a
passive approval of what these students are doing. And that's
only the tip of the iceberg, and there will be
other issues that will arise. Here we are in February,

(44:15):
in March, April, and May, there'll be other issues. And
I would tend to think that if these children are
used as political props for a left wing agenda during
the school day, that's different than going somewhere at noon
on a Saturday in a public square and so called
protesting or making a fool of yourself. You can do that,
but you can't do it during school hours. Now. Thirdly,
before I let you go, I heard you last week

(44:36):
with Rock and the other boys and Eddie talking about Nil.
Give you an example. Maller High School just lost its
star quarterback. He did a great job as a guest
on My show once or twice. And now there's a
kid contacting I'm told indirectly Maller High School to want
to be paid ten thousand dollars to transfer from some
other high school to come play quarterback from all our

(44:57):
high school and get ten thousand dollars to play quarterback
in Mauler High School. Is that legal.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
This is exactly why I have a bill to prohibit
nil to seven through twelve students here in Ohio because
the language that schools were asked to approve is so broad,
so undefined, it lacks clarity on investigations. And this is
why I introduce a bill, and we have hearings on

(45:24):
this bill, and I'm still pushing on this bill, and
I think it has a good chance. It is because
I think it's extremely difficult to enforce and nil compensation
on your notoriety is almost indistinguishable from compensation due to
your roster position. So when you cat a, when the
OHSAA guidelines and byballs don't really talk about transfer inducement,

(45:48):
that's a big issue. And I'm thankful that you told
me about this, Welly, because this has got to be
added to the reasons to pass my bill. And I'm
still working on this, and I believe that we have
a good chance of stopping this because this is going
to be extremely harmful to sports, to the locker room,
to the reason that we even create sports, because they're

(46:11):
an extension of the classroom. We're trying to teach character
and leadership and discipline and communication skills and fitness, and
instead we're using these taxpayer paid facilities in order to
allow kids to have paid for their play, and that
cannot happen in Ohio, Willy.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
And twenty twenty two, the principals got together and then
a vote of more than two to one said no
to nil for high school and I guess grade school kids.
And now in twenty twenty six, or maybe if it
was in the twenty twenty five, the same group of
principals and superintendents and public schools, some five hundred and
sixty strong, voted two to one yes. What happened between

(46:52):
twenty two and twenty six.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Well, there's a couple of things that happened. Number one
is when you look at those numbers, Willie, I think
you have to also add in the two hundred some
schools who abstained from the vote. Okay, so the vote,
I think all those obstensions have to be counted as knows,
which means it's actually like a fifty five percent of
the schools in favor of forty five percent of those no.

(47:16):
And I have had conversations, Willy, with superintendents, and I
believe that many of those people who voting guests didn't
really want to. They held their nose while doing it,
and they did it because OHSAA was rushing this upon
its member schools in order to respond to one single
judge in Franklin County who issued a temporary injunction against

(47:38):
the OHSAA. And this is why this is being pushed.
And don't will I've said this before. I don't think
one single judge should be determining the policy for the
state of Ohio. I think that's our role as a
state legislature. And don't forget, Willie that we've all had
to step in before with OHSSEA. We did it on
the issue of allowing boys to play in girls sportsa

(48:00):
HSAA wanted to continue to allow that, the state legislature
said no to that, and then we also forced HSAA
to accept cash payment when you enter one of the games.
And so there's been times before where we've had to
step in and say no. And I'm advocating among my
colleagues that we need to do it again.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Well let's see what happens. I think an eighteen year
old man it's different than a fourteen year old boy
who wants to earn a bunch of money. But on
the other hand, the facilities. If somebody would transfer to
Molor High School who's eighteen years old to play quarterback
for Muller High School and some rich alumnus wants to
pay ten thousand dollars for that to happen, that opens

(48:39):
a Pandora's box of everyone else getting paid one thousand,
five hundred dollars, fifteen hundred dollars, two thousand dollars to
play high school sports. This thing is completely out of control.
It's ridiculous. In fact, Mick Cronin, my good friend, the
coach of UCLA, we texted back and forth quite often.
He talked about the President getting involved to somehow stop
the illegal we calls illegal transfers kids and that you

(49:00):
can't coach kids anymore if they don't like what you're
saying to them at UCLA or uc or Savior. Guess
what not, Just sit down, I'm not going to play anymore.
I'll transfer at the end of the year and make
more money and somehow this thing is completely screwed up. Now, lastly,
before I let you go, Rashida Talib, who you may
know as a congresswoman from the Detroit area in Michigan
sat in the State of Union a dress last night,

(49:22):
had on her lapel a button and she spelled it out.
It was the F word ice. So during a presidential
address across the world you have Democratic congresswomen like Rashida
Talib and Elon Omar wearing buttons that used the F
word spelled out phonetically correct an ice and then screaming,

(49:44):
hollering and shouting down the president. There's a time and
a place for everything. And there was a rebuttal from
Spanberger afterwards, the Governor of Virginia, which I thought was ridiculous.
And while the event was going on, there was another
presentation with cartoon characters on the mall the loudspeaker, with
people making a fool of themselves. What does this say
about public discourse? Can you imagine you and maybe the

(50:07):
Democrats are completely in charge in Ohio, which I would
anticipate at some point it might happen. In fact, in
the seventies and eighties and nineties, you generally couldn't find
a Republican with a search warrant. It was all democratic.
And if things flip around, could you imagine Representative Adam
Bird sitting on the House floor in Columbus with a
lapel button that said, f whoever the Democrat is, could

(50:29):
you imagine engaging in that behavior.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
It's unbelievable, Willie. And I just remind you that that
congress woman that you're referring to is from Michigan. They
don't have photo ID requirement to vote, Willie. And so
that's a problem because now you're allowing anybody who can
somehow escape into our country or get into the state
of Michigan to vote in elections illegally. That should not

(50:55):
be happening. And there is there continues to be an
effort from the left to have a world without borders.
They want America to be an economic zone that's uncontrollable,
that allows NATO to be in charge, or the WEF
or whoever. And so we have got to enforce our borders.

(51:16):
We got to enforce our law. And it's very upsetting, Willy,
when you have people who have been elected to governments
who want to tear down our country, our constitution and
let anything go. And when you talk about political discourse
and how it has changed in America and become more divisive,
it's not because Republicans have changed. It's because the left

(51:38):
has moved so far to the left, and you know,
some of the things that you heard the President talked
about last night could have been uttered by Bill Clinton,
the kinds of things about protecting our border. And so
the left has changed radically, kareem to the left. And
I would argue, Willie, that some of that has happened

(51:59):
because of political indoctrination that hascurd in some of our
higher ed campuses.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
And also Princeton High School and Walnut Hills. That's a
different issue. But once again, Adam Bird, thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. And next time I run
into Larry Bird, I'm going to check out your relationship.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Thank you. It's great to hear that Trumpster talk about,
you know, the photo ID and the lower inflation and
the secure borders in the lower taxes and teams around
the world. Willie, we are living in a great time
for a great president. I'm so thankful that I voted Born.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It was like the Gettysburg address. But once again, Adam Byrd,
thank you very much and continue to have a great
day this afternoon. Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Honor to be with you, sir.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
God bless America. News coming up in my comments on
the state of Union. Next on news radio seven hundred
WLW Doura's.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Heavily protected military fortress. This was a major military installation,
protected by thousands of soldiers and guarded by Russian and
Chinese military technology.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
How did that work out? Hello, Buiet, I'm broadcasting you know,
so I know you're a great supporter of AOC and
and it's no.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
They should have tossed her and that other who's the
other lady that was a no?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
The other lady that was sitting next door said I
think that was a caregiver. She had a little sign
on it said release the fire of Epstein files also
had the word how about the f work fold threw
her out with that other guy.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
So you're not a great supporter of AOC. The snot
to leave? No, she none, none of them.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
And I'm also upset.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
What are they going to do in uh in New
York City about the cops getting hit with all these snowballs?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
These people My mom, Donnie the marriage said that simply
was a little bit of a childish snowball fight. Oh,
I see, I didn't I didn't see ah, I didn't
see a policemen throw one. Well, can you imagine if
that happened in Hamilton with Richard K. Jones or Rob Sanders,
they would have called out the National Guard to stop
that kind of guard. I don't blame him. Also, not

(54:11):
much of a hockey kind of a guy. I know
you are. But the moments when the hockey team came
down Jack Ughes, what was it, Connor Helbeck, Connor Bach, Yes, unbeatable, untied,
and then you had I watched MSNBC this morning, so
you don't have to ms now. They said they were
young political props used to advance Donald Trump's agenda, and

(54:32):
they should have said no. It should have turned down.
The Medal of Freedom, should have turned down going into
the Oval office, should have turned down coming into the Congress,
should have turned it all down. When Jack Ughes shed
blood for the American people.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Their comments and uh yeah, well that that channels is
a bunch of you know what's clowns and dopes. You're
playing for your country over there. You're not playing for
anything else. You're playing for your nation, and they want
it all for the United States. And you know, I mean,
come on, well, I'm.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Telling you this. When when o'biden was in the White House.
I call him o'biden. When they were in the White House,
there was a player on hockey that they won the
Stanley Cup. One of the players did not want to
go to the White House and he put out something
the effective, Look, this is something I don't want to do.
I don't support what's going on in the country. He
was viciously attacked. The hockey player was attacked by the

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mainstream media including msnbcms NOW, CNN, and all the rest
for not honoring the country, but by winning a Stanley Cup,
se the Stanley Cup. I think the Florida Panthers hold
the Stanley Cup right correct. When they won it, that
wasn't like a national issue. When Indiana Hoosiers won the
football title college football, that wasn't such a big deal.

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In basketball, when the Florida Gators wanted Okay, a lot
of people didn't want the Florida Gators. But who doesn't
want America to win? Who doesn't want the American people?

Speaker 6 (55:57):
I mean, we should be united and the Olympics, well,
he that's what America is all about, is the Olympics
and winning. They didn't win the medal count but I mean,
look look what they They won major of major events
except for the the guy that flips on the skates, uh,
the you know, but other than that, the quad god yeah,

(56:17):
quad god yeah him so. But I mean he'll make
his money on holiday, on ice or whatever coming to
town and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And you know it's, uh, I don't know. You're playing
for your nation over there. You're not.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
You know, these other channels are just dopes. They just
don't get it that you're playing for your nation. And
that's what those guys are over there for. And it's
a brilliant move that they bring the NHL ers over there,
because if they would bring college kids, I mean, who knows,
it would have been would have been another miracle in Milan.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I don't think so. And I think today NHL starts again,
I may start watching hockey, which I've never done. I
don't understand icing. Do you understand icing? Yes?

Speaker 4 (56:56):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I'll get to it in a minute. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
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Speaker 1 (57:28):
And made right here. They made a made right here
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Speaker 3 (57:35):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
And you had meat and cheese lasagna. You had DLM
Italian meatballs, rosemary for katcha. Also DLM house salad. And
you can and and also Willie, you can go to
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there on Mason Montgomery Road where you'll find a robust
selection of homemade meal options that are already prepared and heat.

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You got to do is heat and neat love it
and made right here is what you hear those words.
It's made right there at Dorothy Lane Market.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Love it. So thank you for that very much. SEGM man,
give me some sports and make it fast, Willy.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
The Miami RedHawks rolled to twenty eight and oh and
fifteen and oh in the MAC Yes. Travis Steele's team
holds Eastern Michigan scoreless for the first six and a
half minutes.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Last night, Eagles go.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
Down and they win seventy four to sixty four. Up
next to Western Michigan the next victim, bron THEWKS Red.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Hawks on a roll. Ready for the big question about
Miami go ahead. If they lose during the MAC Tournament,
do they still get to the Big Show? Lance McAllister says, no,
they don't deserve it. They played a lousy schedule. They're
ranked rank his schedules, like two hundred and eighty ninth
in the country. Lance McAllister is well intended, but he
can be a clown. What are your comments about Miami

(58:57):
losing an attorney and then not going I think I
think they're gonna make it. I didn't ask you that.
Please continue, Oh.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
Dayton upset number twenty three, Saint Louis number sixteen, Texas
Tech over the Bearcats stopped that four game win streak
down Tonight Xavier and Providence seven o'clock on fifty five
krc NKU and Cleveland State at six thirty Fox Sports
thirteen sixty.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Red's update. We got the reds action today.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Nick Lodolo going for the Red Legs up against the
White Sox three two thirty five with that RNL carriers
inside pitch.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Today we got the action.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Let's see Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits,
Winding Tobacco and Party Town, thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky.
Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin spoke at the
NFL Combine. Did not reveal whether or not they're going
to tag number ninety one Trey Hendrickson. And it's a
very important offseason for this team and.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
He knows it. Hey critic, because right now, think of
a segment. The Browns are going to be the the
tailors are down, new coach Ravens are going to be down.
New quote. This is the time when the Reds, when
the roster for the Bengals have to be positioned in
such a way as to maximize Joe Burrow number one
and number five, take one, five to nine, one, five
to nine, take nine and five adds up to fourteen.

(01:00:17):
You might know, four rivers, Pete Rose one, five to nine.
You've got to maximize it. Right now. The time is now, segment,
The time is now.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Also tonight Willy A TQL Stadium, It's round two of
the CONCA Camps Champions Cup Series O and MFC out
of the Dominican Republic taking on FC Cincinnata and the
Action at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. EHL Hockey Tonight,
our beloved Cyclones are home up against the Toledo Walleye
and also Willie. We will say congratulations. In the Great

(01:00:47):
Fruit League yesterday, the Yankees beat Toronto eight to seven.
But in the ninth inning for Toronto, Jake Casey with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
A home run. What the sun?

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
The son of the mayor number twenty one? Forever Sean Casey?
Can he run as fast as Sean Casey?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Who? Jay Casey? I thank you could No, I can
run probably faster than Sean Casey, but not Jake. Please continue.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
So that's that's looked like. That's about it. But big
night in college basketball last night. Willie and Xavier and
Providence will play tonight. They were postponed last night because
the Providence Rhode Island got nearly three feet of snow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Well, hopefully tonight they can play last night's stated union.
How about Officer Eric Slover was there? It was a
SHINEK helicopter pilot wounded, mortally survived, dropped those Great American
Eros on top of the palace. Also one hundred year
old Royce Williams. How about that too. Korea and also
Vietnam shotdown on four or five or six Soviet jets.

(01:01:57):
Knock out the medal of honor. Knock them all. Herple
heart was given the sergeant Andrew wolf who survived the
back of the head shooting by an illegal immigrant, legal
alien who wanted to kill somebody in uniform. He picked
Andrew wolf and Sarah Beckstram. Sadly, Sarah did not make it.
She's dead. Her parents were there, and Andrew Wolfe was
there to get the purple heart. Democrats didn't stand for

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that either. No, and it's just awful. And then seven
year old Delilah Coleman, who's a little girl who was
almost murdered, killed by an lego alien truck driver. I
know you're a great supporter as I am with truckers,
but if you can't read the signs in English, I
know you support the legal aliens. Now, if you can't
read the sign in English, don't drive a truck.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
Would you agree? Correct? Correct, keep that goal. I have
enough problems to signs myself.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah, But imagine if you don't speak of the English,
she got no chance of operating the truck. Oh boy,
I don't I agree with you. You know, I think
bad bunny. What did you think? What did you think
of the overall of the speech?

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I thought it was like the Gettysburg address all right,
only longer. Okay, I mean I was standing up. I
was cheering the hockey team, the military heroes, Eliah Coleman,
the little girl almost killed murdered by legal trucker right,
and the sore Democrats seeds sat down. So I don't
want to blame Democrats specifically. This is the Democratic Socialist Party.

(01:03:14):
So the party of Charlie Lucan and John Cranlee are
Anthony Celebrazy or vern Riife Dick Celestie. That's not the
Democratic Party today. He's a The Democratic Socialists are put
here to sow seeds of discord and distrust among us,
and you and I segment cannot let that happen. And
I thought too.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
He took a couple of shots at the Supreme Court,
and I thought that might be I thought that might
be a little bit rougher.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
But I don't know. I guess he you know, what
do you do? I guess Obama did the same thing,
and he was a plot. He might recall that Obama
overall lies about the Supreme Court, and Samuel Alito said
that's not true, and the media went crazy on who
the Supreme Court, not on Obama. They let Obama alone
correct and Segment, well, I'm glad you brought this up.
The streets of Cincinnati continuing to run red with blood

(01:04:00):
in a park this morning, and two more were killed,
and city councils worried about illegal aliens. I worry about
the health and safety of the American people. When will
the voters in Cincinnati figure it out? Segment? When will
they figure it out? Twenty thirty seven? I doubt it?
I doubt it. I felt proud to be an American.
I loved it. And I got a text here from

(01:04:20):
Frank Zibel the best state of the Union in the
history of this country. I could. I thought it was.
The Gettysburg address went on and I kind of wish
it would have gone on at one more hour. I
want it one more hour at the Trumpster, I want
it one more hour if I could. And I also
tweeted about this or exed about this. In twenty twenty eight.
There should be an acclamation. Just keep Trump there for
four more years by acclamation and simply canceled the presidential

(01:04:44):
election in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
What about that segment? Now, let me ask you something, Willie.
If they send JD Vance up there, can Trump become
vice president?

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yes? Okay, but then the constitution says you can't be
elected to the offic more than twice. But he's been
elected twice to the office. You got to change the
Supreme Court, change to constitution. We get waive all that
by acclamation. At some point Cincinnati City Council will pass
a resolution calling for the third term of Donald Trump.

(01:05:17):
I think that will happen. No, seg get me out
of the Stuge Report? Coming up after the news will
be Keith. Will be Keith O'Brien, who wrote a book
about one of my favorite players of all time, Larry Bird.
Bird is the word segment Get me out of the
Studge Report?

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Please will Leon Honor of Ritz Baseball coming up in
about one hour, we leave you with the immortal words
of the Stood Report ends up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
These people are crazy. I'm telling you they're crazy. City Council.
At one point we'll be voting for Donald Trump because
her policies have failed. Even they'll recognize they're on the
wrong track. Yeh, segment, Thank you very much. Let's continue
with more one fifty four Home of Your Reds Live
on the Bigger One in about forty five minutes on
news Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy cunning Ham, The

(01:06:15):
Great America. Of course, many many months ago, it might
have been as long as a year ago. I had
on Keith O'Brien who wrote the definitive work on Pete
Rose and Charlie Hustle, and it was a fabulous dissertation
of Pete Rose and his life where he came from
his relationship with his father, Boldfaced Park, all the way
up from nineteen sixty with Tony Perez in New York

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and playing minor league baseball all the way through his death.
Keith O'Brien is a new book out which is called Heartland.
It's about Larry Bird and it's coming out from March
Madison More. And I am not aware of the research
that Keith O'Brien did on Larry Bird and what it meant.
But once again Keith O'Brien, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

(01:06:56):
And Keith first of all, Larry Bird almost didn't have happened.
Can you relate? First of all, let's go back before that,
before he went to Indiana and did not play for
the Hoosiers and Bob Knight. Go back in time to
Larry Bird's background, what happened in his early years that
made him Larry Bird.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
So our Land is an origin story. It's not a
soup to nuts biography. It's really an origin story of
Larry Bird's rise in rural Indiana in the nineteen seventies.
This narrative unfolds between nineteen seventy three and nineteen seventy nine.
Everything after that for me is epilogue in this narrative.
And you're absolutely right, Bill, you know, in you know,

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the early nineteen seventies, Larry Bird very nearly slips away.
There is one hundred percent an alternative reality out there
in which we don't know Larry Bird's name, in which
he never escapes French like, in which he, you know,
ends up getting a job as a wood finisher at
the Kimball Piano Plant and French liake just like his father.
You know, you know, in yearly seventies, Bird wasn't considered

(01:07:59):
a great star even at his little high school in
French Lick Springs Valley High School. For the first three
years there he was never the best player on his
own team. You know, in that way, he's a lot
like Pete Rose. But you know, before his senior year
of high school, Bird has something happens to Bird that
really changes basketball history. He has an enormous gross burt

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and he grows about three or four inches in a
span of several months. And you know, this, this Grothsburg,
you know, puts him on the radar of at least
Midwestern college recruiters. And so you know, in that winter
of seventy three seventy four, you know, school's like Louisville,
University of Cincinnati, Purdue Indiana, Miami of Ohio. They're taking

(01:08:47):
a look at Larry Bird. They're going to games at
Springs Valley. And as you indicate it, Byrd ultimately does
sign and agree to go to school at Indiana and
play for But it doesn't go well there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Why didn't he go? Because I would think looking back
in time, and I've seen Bobby Knight give interviews before
his passing. Of course, in fact, he barely knew the
guy he said he had an odd name, he didn't
look right. He's an ugly guy, and he was tall
and gangling. His name was Bird, and he didn't stand
out at all. Why did he not stand out in Indiana?

(01:09:23):
Why didn't Robert Montgomery Knight pick up on this talent
which he missed completely? And why didn't he and Knight
get along at all?

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Well, I think it's two reasons. Number one in Knight's defense.
You know, in the spring of seventy four when he
signed Bird, you know I mentioned there was some Midwestern
schools that were recruiting him, but a lot of schools
are peeling away and not interested. University of Kentucky Joby
Hall was interested in Bird for a while, then decides he's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Not good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
He's not fast enough, he's not quick enough to play
in sec basketball. So, you know, schools are falling away.
And in the voters, the high school polsters in Indiana
and in the spring of seventy four don't consider Bird
a top fifteen player. I mean, think about that for
a second. According to the AP voters in Indiana and
the spring of seventy four, there are at least fifteen

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players who are better than Larry Bird. So Knight signs him,
but he's not excited about him. And you're right, he
doesn't know him. And this is something that I think
is specific Tonight. You know, when Bird shows up on
campus there in Bloomington in August nineteen seventy four, that's
a really great team. Ho's your basketball team. It's already

(01:10:34):
there at Assembly Hall. This is Quinn Buckner, Scott may Ken, Benson.
You know without Bird, without him, they're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Have an undefeated season.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
One year later, they're going to have a stretch of
basketball where the Hoosiers win like sixty five games and
lose one over the span of two years. So they
don't really need Bird. And Knight doesn't know him at all.
And you know, when Bird arrived on campus, you know,
he's a sensitive young man. He's a troubled young man

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coming from an impoverished home. You know, he really needs
more than what Night is giving. And based on my reporting,
you know he Bird is just not treated well by
members of that team. You know, they take his ball
at the pickup games, they don't pass the ball to him,
they don't sometimes play him in the game. And you know,

(01:11:26):
I interviewed one student manager who told me he had
a vivid memory of the last game the Bird ever played,
the last pickup game that he played in September seventy four.
And at the end of that game, Bird was complaining
because they weren't passing to him or they hadn't played
him at all. And one of the players, the Hoosia
players in the locker room, looked at Bird and said,
tell me again where you're from. And and the point

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was clear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
You know, Bird was a nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
He was from nowhere. And you know, based on my reporting,
that was the last game that Bird played at French
at Bloomington, and he hitchhikes home to French Lick within
an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
We'll get to that up part in a moment. I know,
Bird's father killed himself, and you talk about Bird being troubled,
Explain the troubling aspects of Larry Bird's life before he
got to Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I mean, you know, his parents are divorced. French Lake
at the time is an impoverished town. Bird's home is
impoverished as well. Larry's father is you know, is an
alcoholic and has been for years. You know, in the
winter in which he leaves Bloomington and hitchhikes home to

(01:12:34):
French Lake, Larry's dad will kill himself. And you know,
these days, Bill, you know, we have a word for that,
especially when it comes to kids. It's a trauma. You know,
a suicide is a trauma and a family and unfortunately
all too many families out there know that. But in
nineteen seventy four, seventy five, it wasn't treated like that.

(01:12:57):
It certainly wasn't treated like that, you know, for in
French Lig with Larry Bird's family. You know, if he
has to almost soldier on alone, you know, burying this
enormous grief, this enormous trauma, and in a lot of ways,
you know, that will define him in the years to come,
for reasons that are easy to understand now, but I

(01:13:19):
think at the time we're much harder to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
I can imagine that locker room nineteen seventy sixty, who's
your team on? Undefeated, untied, unscored on last undefeated champion,
maybe never to be repeated. Look around a locker room,
Miss Quinn Buckner and Scott May. They're looking down there
and see this tall, skinny, ugly guy named Larry Bird.
Who the hell do you think you are If somebody
had told that group at that point Larry Bird might

(01:13:42):
have been the greatest basketball player of all time? What
would Bob what would Robert Montgomery might have said about that?
If somebody tapped him on his shoulder and say, see
that guy sitting over there, that's the player of the
nineteen eighties, that's the three time Boston Celtics champion, that's
the three time MVP. That is the most respecting a
love basketball player maybe at the last half of the

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twentieth century. What would Knight have said about that? Who
that guy?

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't He wouldn't have believed it. I mean, listen,
you know, Bobby Knight is himself a basketball icon, an
Indiana icon, and a flawed American icon. But one thing
that Bobby Knight was he was confident in his own abilities,
for better or for worse. Sometimes I confidence helped him,
sometimes it hurt him, and it did hurt him when

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it came to Larry Bird. But again in defense of Knights,
for a moment, you know, nobody in the fall of
seventy four thought Bird was going to be any of
those things that you just listed, And in fact, when
he leaves Bloomington and hitchhikes home to French Lake. Just
to give you a sense of how others felt about Bird.
Only one story, only one story, is written about Bird

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leaving Indiana. It's written by the Bloomington Herald telephone, the
local paper. No one cares, No one cares that this
guy is left. And in that winter of seventy four
seventy five, when he's returned home to French Lick, when
he gets that job collecting trash for the town, when
his father, you know, kills himself in that tragic way.
You know, Bird isn't you know, on anyone's radar. He

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has literally slipped to the edge.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Of the basketball map.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
He is playing pickup basketball glorified, you know, over thirty
men pick up basketball with guys who have day jobs
and wives and children. In the scant stories that are
written about Bird in this winter, you know, covering these
games and what we called the Industrial League, the newspapers
can't even spell bird name right. They spell it b

(01:15:43):
A I RB very baard. They don't know who he is.
And so you know, he really is slipping away. And
were it not for a man named Bill Hodges down
on his luck, assistant coach at Indiana State. It's very
possible that we don't know the name Larry Bird. It's
very possible that Bird doesn't ever leave French Lick again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
So Keith o' brownie, let me get this right. He's
his scholarship to the Hoosiers. He fails miserably, he's ignored
by Bob Knight. He hitchhikes from Bloomington to Indiana State
to French Lick, which has got to be a hall.
It's a couple hundred miles and there's no direct interstate.

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So there in September of seventy four is Larry Bird
with his thumb out going from Bloomington to French Lick.
Do I have that right? And now he's a garbage man,
literally a garbage man. You have that right?

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
In that winter of seventy four seventy five, I call
it the Winter of Larry Bird's discontent. You know, he
briefly plays for a vocational school, plays basketball at a
vocational school. I don't mean community college, I don't mean
a JUCO program. He plays for a place called Northwood Institute,
which is essentially a small two hundred student vocational school

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in West Baden, Indiana. He quits that team too, Bill,
and then he gets that job hauling trash. You know,
his father kills himself shortly after that. Bird is now
playing in that men's league that I mentioned, and in
April seventy five, you know, at that moment, you know,
at that moment when he's disappearing, Bill Hodges, his coached
Indiana State, decides to drift down to French Lick and

(01:17:26):
see if he can find Larry Bird. Bill Hodges has
seen Bird play twice in high school, only twice. But
he's wondering what he's doing now. And you know, Bill,
you know, drives down from Terahoe to French Like that's
about a two and a half hour drive in nineteen
seventy five, and he can't find him. He has to
drive around town looking for Bird. And when he does,

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you know, Bird again basically states directly to Hodge's face
he has no interest in returning to college. And actually
Bird tells Hodges that day that there's a couple other
guys in town and maybe he should look at instead.
But you know, Bill Hodges is a lot like Larry
you know, he's from rural Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
He knows what it's like to be poor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
He knows what it's like to be overlooked. He knows
what it's like to bail Hay and milk cows and
Hodgson Bird connect and it's really Bill Hodges this again
down in his love journeyman, assistant coach who connects with
Bird and coaxes him, you know, away from the brink,
away from the void and back to college. And I

(01:18:32):
mean it, Bill, We're not for Bill Hodges. I think
it's very likely we don't know Larry Bird's name.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Four years later, Indiana State, I think the sycamores is
that correct. Indiana State is playing in the national championship
game against Magic Johnson, Irvin Magic Johnson, Michigan State. And
those four years Larry Bird went from a disgraced, ugly,
six foot nine inch garbage man playing recreational basketball, being

(01:19:00):
the player of the year leading Indiana State undefeated. They
lost the national championship game to Magic Johnson's Michigan State team,
and that from that point on, shall we say he
became Larry Bird? And you're saying, without that coach, how
many Americans right now are down to their dumps, not
feeling good about themselves. Woe is me, I'm not sure

(01:19:21):
you get lower than what Larry Bird was in nineteen
seventy five, in April in nineteen seventy five, But four
years later he's a National Player of the Year. And
and then he goes to the Boston Celtics and at
that point rent ourback maneuver to get Larry Bird. He
saw something in Bird that others didn't because Bird wasn't quick,
he didn't run fair, he wasn't quick, he wasn't fast,

(01:19:42):
and he couldn't jump. So in the NBA, if you're
not very quick and you're not very fast and you
can't jump, what are the odds of you making it?
I mean really low?

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
And you make a great point. You make a great point, though,
I mean, I think Larry Bird is one of the
great American understories, full underdog stories, full stop. I don't
mean great underdog sports stories, but great underdog stories. You know,
you're you're absolutely right. You know, he is at a
point in time where he is he is drifting away,
he is lost, he is nearly gone, you know, struggling

(01:20:16):
with all the things we've discussed, and and and he
is you know, really saved. But once he once he
is walks back from the brink. He he makes the
most of that opportunity. And in this way, you know,
I do think Larry Bird and Pete Rose, you know,
are similar. You know, they worked for what they got.
They they they were dedicated to their sport for the

(01:20:37):
nature of the sport. You know, Pete Rose loves hitting
for the sake of hitting. You know, Pete would live
in the batting cage before and after games, even after
he was the star, because he loved it. He won,
he wanted to get better at it. Bert did the same.
He lived on the basketball court before and after games.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I mean when he goes to friend, when he goes
to tear a hote. In the summer of seventy five,
you know, based on my reporting, he lived in the
boys club there, you know, where he gets the key
and is able to shoot baskets, you know, at his
heart's content, deep into the night.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
You know, these guys, you know, work for what they get.
They pull themselves up. And you know, Red r Bachs
sees something in Bird. You know, it's like the opposite
of Bobby Knight. You know, Red Arbachs sees it and
he says out loud. You know one, he drafts him
one year before he's able to play. At the time,

(01:21:35):
NBA teams held the rights to players for one year
if you if you drafted them, and so our backs
drafts him in seventy eight, stashes in the leg and
a dall back very smartly says, and I think this
is there's a lesson in life, a lesson in business
for this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
And I'm paraphrasing here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Arbuc says, a year goes by faster than you think,
and one year from now, a lot of people are
going to be kicking themselves that they didn't take a
chance on Larry Bird.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
And right, well, we got to run. But I can
only imagine the Who's your teams in the late seventies
with Larry byrd on it playing for Bobby Knight. That
would have been a classic. But this is a great
American success story, just like your book, Charlie Hustle and
Pete Rose came from nowhere. It didn't look like a
baseball player. He couldn't hit with power, he couldn't run
very fast, but my gosh, he was the best hitter

(01:22:21):
perhaps of all time. And Larry Bird the same way.
A garbage man from French lick down on his luck.
Bill Hodges takes a shot on him. Away we go
and read Auerbach picked him a year early and the
rest is history. The rest of the story maybe we'll
get you on later on. Talk about the rest of
the story is years in Boston and with the Dream
Team in nineteen ninety two. We haven't touched on that,
but up against the clock and Keith O'Brien. Lastly, we

(01:22:44):
have about thirty seconds remaining. You're going to appear in
Cincinnati area on three to three is when the book's
coming out, thirty three. But where will you be in
Cincinnati area?

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Yeah, book Heartland comes down on March third. I'll be
at the Campbell County Public Library on Friday March sixth,
and I'll be at Joseph Beth and Rookwood on Saturday,
March seventh. Heartland is available wherever you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Buy your books. Well, you know, Keith O'Brien, this is
an American success story. More need to be told. You
may be at the bottom of your dump. You may
feel as if your life is worthless, but look at
the examples of Larry Bird and Pete Rose, and there's
always hope Keith O'Brien, you're a great American and thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Keith,
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
God bless America. The name of the book is Heartland News,
Coming up and more at your home of the Redgs
and Bengals. News Radio seven hundred WULW

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