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July 29, 2026 17 mins
Willie talks with former Cincinnati Vice-Mayor Christopher Smitherman about government overreach surrounding today's testimony by Dr. Anthony Fauci.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
By Billy cunning End the Great America. Welcome to this
glorious Wednesday AFTN in the Tri State. As you may know,
the red split last yesterday's doubleheader. Should have won the
first game, could have lost the second one. But there's
still hanging on by their fingernails. There still a faint heartbeat,
and that right now they're five games out of the
Wild Card with about fifty seven games remaining. Who knows
what lies ahead. But more importantly, as an attorney, as

(00:29):
an American who was here every day of what was
going on with the disgusting response of the government to
COVID nineteen, I'm just amused this morning at doctor Anthony Fauci.
He is the Christ, He's the Christ of medical care.
And one of his great apostles was doctor Amy acton
having to take the Fifth Amendment repeatedly because of the

(00:49):
lies he told us for the year or two that
COVID nineteen was rampant. It was an awful circumstance. Plus
we have the issue of the school board raising the
city income tax from zero from their perspective up to
point seventy five. And so right now, according to Christopher Smitherman,
if you work in the city, whether you live there
or not, you pay one point eight and then the

(01:10):
add on top about the point seventy five of the
school board and you can't send your kids to the
public schools are so bad. That's two point five to five,
which may preclude the city from raising the city income
tax to close to three percent, which would be an
all time high of any city in the state of Ohio.
We're trending toward the income tax in the city in
Los Angeles and Chicago. Right now, Christopher Smitherman is joining

(01:32):
you and I, And for first of all, Christopher, welcome
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And let's go back a
few years to March of twenty twenty, in which government
shut down American society. Yours truly found himself at that
point in Naples, Florida, I was whisked off the golf
course to a plane brought back to Cincinnati. I was
the designated survivor by the Trumpet administration. I had to

(01:54):
be ready to go to the pod at the transmitter
in order to transmit to the American people is going
to happen. That's a story I told once I may
tell it again. Secondly, we have the diary entries of
doctor Anthony Fauci, the santed one, which is contradicting the
public comments of doctor Anthony Fauci. So on one hand,

(02:15):
he would say masking is required for everyone, including two
year olds. On one hand, you have to mask. On
the other hand, and his diary he's putting out of
the fact he said quote, obviously masking will not work
unless you're in an oar setting. However, it's a good
method to control the message. So they want to control
over us. They wanted people walking around with filthy, dirty

(02:38):
masks on their face as an indication that I'm cool,
I'm with and I'm down, It's okay with me, even
though Fauci knew would have no impact whatsoever. So, first
of all, at Christopher Smithman at that point, I think
you were in government at that point. Can you talk
about Faucio On one hand, privately is calling Fauci publicly
a liar and we have the evidence and the proof,

(03:00):
give me a full report.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, I think the other piece is that prior to
President Biden leaving right, he pardoned Fauci per Fauci, meaning
clearly people around him requested that pardon. And you're seeing
that feeding the Fifth Fifth play out right now for
the American people. The thing that brings it home for me,

(03:25):
Bill is churches being asked to close and liquor stores saying.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
They can open.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
That was so bizarre to watch school systems being charged
to close, right, But then these places like Walmart and
Target were able to be open, So there really was
no kind of reason reasoning around the decisions. And you're
right that Fauci kind of was the spear here for

(03:52):
everybody's interesting and people who are listening to this all
across the country, they don't understand that Amy Act is
running for governors, meaning this was the person who was
taking the direction from Bout. So you could imagine what
the veck Ramaswami's campaign is thinking right now. Right, they've

(04:16):
got Fauci on TV Live pleading the Fifth who was
given a pardon by President Biden, and now here we
have him saying in a diary that I literally was
lying to the American people, that I knew all these
things weren't true, but I continue to kind of push
that narrative. This is this is probably one of the

(04:37):
greatest conspiracies that is that we're seeing unfold. Bill for
the American people that if you layer on top of
this Biden's health status during the period of time, these
are probably the two biggest scandals that American has seen
since since Nixon.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
One thing, before we talk about the city issues, about
the school board. Another great area of interest to me
is the vaccines themselves. I can recall early on I
worked for a large corporate employer, but irrespective of that,
we were told we had to get a vaccine and
get a card. We issued a card, we had to prove,

(05:15):
we had to show our papers to prove we had
a vaccine. Now, the vaccine caused millions of Americans to
have terrible cardiac conditions, and as soon as you had it,
whether it's Bell's palsy or other immune disorders, the vaccine
caused death and disability to millions of Americans.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now one might ask, how is that possible.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well, because of the urge by Fauci and others, they
gave pharmaceutical companies a complete Texas al Paso. They said,
you develop these vaccines and you'll make billions of dollars,
but don't test them on humans, put them in the
bodies of the American people. They received immunity from civil
or and or criminal prosecutions from the Congress who passed

(05:57):
laws saying the pharmaceutical company is going to make billions
of dollars with an untested vaccine that itself killed and
disabled millions of Americans, and we all fell in line because.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
We were scared to death. Was this the bubonic plague?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Was this the flu of nineteen eighteen nineteen nineteen, in
which twenty five million people died all over the country.
And privately in his emails, Fauci told his cohorts, thinking
these words will never come to light, that obviously this
vaccine is untested, We're not sure of the results, but
this is something we have to do.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
He didn't have to do it.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And another issue rose this morning with the testimony of Fauci,
is the American taxpayer, through an organization called eco Health,
paid for the creation of COVID nineteen. And when Fauci
discovered it got out of the lab when the first
three people infected were Chinese scientists who died from it,
he quickly said, you know, and emails, we got problems here.

(06:54):
We funded this thing, and if we funded COVID nineteen,
how do we go to the American people and not
be feminally charged. So what they did then, according to Fauci,
come up with the wet market theory of a bat
and a lizard somewhere eight hundred miles south of Wuhan
that originated the vaccine in a wet market, transported the

(07:14):
bat and some weird duck to a wet market in Wuhan, China,
and they pended on the weird duck. And they depended
on the bat and not Fauci, who fundedth the vaccine.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
How about that one, Christopher, Well.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's everything you said is true and what is scary
And I'm just gonna kind of just bring this point. Look, Bill,
family is really important to me, as you know, we
have a wonderful family to smith in a family. Look,
the vaccination conversation puts so much stress sometimes on people's families,

(07:49):
like my family. So if you are a person that said, look,
I do not trust the vaccination, right there were people
in the family that would ostracize you. There are people
there are families, Bill who are still not talking right now.
Their families were blown up over the discussion you and
I are having right now. People who said, no, I

(08:12):
don't trust the vaccination, who rolls the vaccination out and
basically says in a few months the vaccination is good
for mass consumption of the American people. And so you're right,
there are a lot of health conditions that people have
had because of the vaccination. But think about the military
where there were so many people in the military that said, no,

(08:34):
I don't want to do the vaccination. Now, I know
this president has said he brought all those people back,
but before that, they lost their jobs. Think about all
the Americans across this country that said, Bill, they heard
what you just said, which is full vindication. Stole Chief
Fleeding the fifth is full vindication for them today. But

(08:54):
think about all of those people that lost their jobs
and they didn't get their jobs back. They lost their houses,
they lost their families, they lost their cars. Bill. This
is really serious because there were very serious economic decisions
that people were saying, no, I don't want to get vaccinated,
but then they lost everything for standing up for their rights.

(09:14):
And I will also say this this whole discussion, I'm
not a person that supports abortion right, so I'm not
that guy. But the Democratic Party who says my body,
I make the decision about my body, they threw that
out of the window. So somebody that said, no, I
don't trust this, I need more information. The Democratic Party
said no, we're going to tell you what to do.

(09:35):
I think it was almost the birth of laying the
ground of the socialism and communist movement that we see
within the Democratic Party because they then said we're going
to take control.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Of your life.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Another issue is doctor Fauci testified in Congress in March
at twenty twenty to a question this what do you
think will be the COVID mortality rate which is going
to drive our policy? He said it's going to be
th e a five percent. Now one percent of the
American people is three point five million. Five times that
is something in the range that twenty million people are

(10:08):
gonna die because of this. In reality, in his own
diary a month earlier and his buddies, he said, it's
probably gonna be between zero point two to zero point three,
which is ten times less deadly than he testified to.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
In Congress under oath.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
So in order to create this this terror in the
minds of the American people, you're gonna die, your mother's
gonna die, your kids are gonna die. You have to
wear a mask, you got to take the vaccine, and
all of that was a bald faced, unmitigated lie. And
we know that not because he had bad judgment. Anyone
can have a bad judgment about something. Because in his
own words, Fauci called Fauci a liar, and now he

(10:48):
won't answer questions about the diary which came out on Monday.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
And look, this is a.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Part of this discussion. If you remember, they were saying
saying that if you were a part of a specific
ethnic group, you were more exposed to the conditions are
the results of COVID nineteen. So they were really focusing
on if you remember this, a lot of minority groups,
they were demanding to go out and get that COVID

(11:17):
nineteen shot the ramifications of And I want to say
if his staff and they're listening, Congressman brad Winstrop, we
thank him for all of the work that he did
in this area because he was spearheading this prior to
him leaving Congress about what was happening in COVID nineteen. Also,
let me say, Bill, it's important that we say this

(11:38):
over and over again that those people who stood up
and said Fauci wasn't telling the truth. Those people are
being vindicated today because they were ostracized from our society. Bill,
you couldn't say what you're saying right now ten years
ago are five years six years ago, because they would say,
you're not following the science. And now what we're finding

(12:00):
is in Fauci's diary he was the one not following
the science.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, I you know, every major company, h every labor union,
liquor stores and strip clubs kept open because of doctor
Amy Acton. You know, each date was given wide berths
to implement the orders of doctor Anthony Fauci. And here
in Ohio, I at two o'clock every day, she would
come on and talk about putting my arms around you

(12:28):
and loving you.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Virus go away. It was it was mystical.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Doctor Amy Acton was what was rather mystical in her
relation to what was going on in the country. And
at the time, you better fall in line. And in fact,
I did not have any more knowledge about this than
the average American or other talk show host. I naturally
assumed that doctor Anthony Fauci and the experts around the

(12:53):
world knew what they were doing, and I assumed it
came from a wet market and a duck. I assumed
the masking my work. I assume that that certain other
medications already in the marketplace would be completely ineffective. We
did not know, except by the disclosure of the diary
on Monday of this week, the lie's deceptions and why

(13:14):
it was being done. But for the diary of Fauci's
own words calling Fauci a liar, the hearings today would
not have taken place.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I want to know the Democrats, your friends on the
Democratic side, Christopher Smitherman, are still defending Fauci did the
best he could.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is a character assassination.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
They can't talk about the facts of what he said
in his diary and contrarian to what he said publicly,
because it is so injurious to the public health and
how many people two year olds were told. I can
recall that basketball rims were taken off backboards. There were
times on golf courses where you couldn't touch the pin,
you couldn't touch the rake and sandtrap.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
There was soccer. There's soccer games being.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Played without the ball, and I'm thinking, I'm watching soccer
being played without the ball because somebody could touch the
ball on the throw in and somebody else are gonna
die of this terrible disease.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
And at the end of.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
The day, think about every graduation, Bill, Think about very
junior and senior graduation around the United States that didn't happen.
That those students walked out of there in the most
odd way, their inability to bring closure, no prom no graduation,

(14:30):
no saying goodbye to their teachers. And all of those
families who died, meaning their fathers, their mothers, their grandmothers,
their aunts, their uncles, whoever. They died alone in rooms
in hospitals because of Fauci. Now this is personal to me,
and I'm blessed that my beautiful wife passed before COVID brother.

(14:52):
I would have lost my mind Bill if I could
not touch and resolve and let my wife go by
being next to her, if somebody was telling me, no,
you can't be there with your wife while she's passing.
People are listening to this interview that we're acting right
now and they have a choice. Amy Akin, who clearly

(15:14):
made terrible decisions. Clearly she didn't know what she was doing.
Now it's saying I want to be promoted to governor
so I can continue to make those very bad decisions. Now,
we have to make a decision right now. And I
don't care whether you're a Democrat and independent like me,
an independent or Republican. You have to decide right now
because early voting starts in October the fourth or the

(15:37):
fifth or so. People are going to start voting here
really soon and dialing in on this gubernatorial race. There
is only one choice. It's the veck Rabmaswami. Why in
the world would we put Amy Akin in the chair
of governor while Fauci is leading the fifth in Congress
right now?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, doctor Amy Acton may have to take the fifth
at some point for for a domestic violence against her
husband and getting drunk and using drugs legal or illegal
according to police reports.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
She's got other problems. Well, look, christ m h. I
got a run up against the clock.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
We were going to talk about that point seventy five
percent increase of the school board and taken away the
ability of city council to raise taxes.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
But we can't do it. Seventeen minutes that let me in.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Let me in with a personal note. A place that
I love called Jim and Jacks went up for sale. Yesterday.
It's on fifty.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
You've been here.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
They just put their business up for sale. They're not
closed at all. They've been here forty two years. So
I just want to make sure because they're things that
are going out on the news. This is a business
that's a live, it's vibrant, and Bill on your show,
I want to say, Jim and Jackson's open for business.
They just put it up for sale.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
So thank you so much. People can follow me at
vote Smithman and vote the veak Ramaswami for governor.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Please, thanks Christopher, and we'll talk about the increase of
income tax later. It's great to tax people who cannot
vote against it. It's wonderful to have a facility available.
When those who work in the community don't use the
schools or the resources of that community are taxed to
pay for people who live in that community. That's wrong,
isn't it. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundreds WLW

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