8-3-26 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie previews the trade deadline with Ken Broo and Mo Egger. Also Hamilton County Commissioner Denise Driehaus explains why the Commission wants to add a tax to the books for Children Services.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
My Billy Cunningham's Great America. Welcome this Monday afternoon in
the tri States. Here's her on the cusp of something
really good or something really bad with Reds Baseball, and
with the Bengals, and with society in general. The man
with perspective on all this to reprise in a very
important role with me and with you is the great
ken Brew and ken Brew. Welcome again to the Bill

(00:28):
Cunningham Show and ken Brew. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
My God? You've called all these mondays. I've been sitting
by the phone waiting for you to call. You know,
my wife would say, sweetheart, do you want to go
to church? I said no, Willie may be calling. She said, sweetheart,
would you like to maybe go to lunch? We can
go somewhere in nice today. I said, no, sweetheart, Willie
baby calling. She said, would you like to go upstairs
and play? I said no, I can't. Willie maybe calling,

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And she said, Willie never calls you. And look at this,
my God, you've called again. Oh my god, this is
so wonderful. Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
How are you? These are special times, ken Brew, because
we're on the cusp of greatness or complete depravity, many issues,
so little time we have the situation with your Reds.
As of twelve eleven pm on this Monday, there's no news.
Can you tell me why we don't keep stevenson us
a catcher? Can you tell me why Dela Cruz in

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a sense was offered to the Boston Red Sox. Can
you tell me what the Reds are going to do
between now and six pm? Can you tell me anything?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, first of all that Dela Cruz stuff, there's a
bunch of hohoy. I'm just going to tell you right now,
is that they had a conversation about Dela Cruz. It's
kind of like the conversation I had with Marissa Tomay's
agent about twenty five years ago. I said, he said,
do you think she'd be interested in dating me? He
said you, and he hung up the phone. That's kind
of what happened. That Red Sox probably called Nick Crawl
and said, hey, would.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You would you be interested in.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Dealing Ellie da La Cruz? No Click. So I don't
believe that for a minute. Four guys you can't trade
maybe three, but I think four one you can't trade
South Stewart.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Three. You can't trade Eli Dala Cruz.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Three you can't trade Chase Burns. No, And I'm fensitting,
but I think I'm leaning towards You can't trade Hunter
Green anybody else. Get rid of them. They're not helping
this team. There are a lot of nice guys. There
are a lot of role players. There are a lot
of four eight players that look good in Louisville until
they get up here. I would say, let's make a
deal on anybody, and everybody except those four, but.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
The other teams. I would think Stevenson would be attractive
to a whole bunch of clubs as a catcher. Am
I right? This? Am I wrong to say this? When
he was crying on the field yesterday with a great
Jim Day as the last the first about as the
Reds was a home run. He wants to last about
not to be a home run. What's wrong with keeping Stevenson?
Who's a better than average catcher? You got some guru,

(02:46):
it's twenty years old down there in the Double A
who may come up? What's wrong without signing him to
a three year contract? Why did he want a deal? Stevenson?
Why won't he sign? What's the deal there? Ken Brew? Well?
He's hot, right? I mean he's hitting the ball.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, this maybe the best streak he's been on in
his life, and I think he can't overreact to that. Look,
Stevenson is going to cost somebody a lot of money
at the end of the year, right, So why not
the Reds. You're going if the Major League Baseball owners
get what they want with a salary cap, you'll get
a ceiling and you'll get a floor. In essence, the
floor is the minimum you have to spend on salary.

(03:22):
If you look at what the Reds are spending right
now on salary, they would have to increase their spending
by fifty million dollars if they get a salary cap
in this next CBA. So yeah, from that logic, I'd
go ahead and keep Stevenson. They're not going to get
a lot for him. He's a rental and you can
just look at the history of rentals you're going to get,
you know, a middling prospect who may or may not

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eventually make it to your major league team. But baseball
logic would dictate trade him, maybe get something for him,
and then, although it's a rarity, maybe in the offseason
you try to resign him back. But again, he's not
somebody I keep going. I just think they're four guys,
and once you get past those four guys, I think
you can deal anybody on this team and probably get better.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Tyler's twenty nine years old, hitting the ball like crazy.
He's an above average defensive catcher. But you bring up
an interesting point. You've already talked about next year. In
the year after, does the Tarik Scuable deal to the Dodgers.
I think makes it more likely the owners are going
to dig in and say, we can't do this anymore.
And I want to know where Bowie Kune is. You

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might recall Bowie in nineteen seventy seven saying to the
Red Legs, that dominant big team in baseball, you can't
trade for Vita Blue. So where's your Vita Blue? Now?
Why can't the commiss step in and say you can't
do that?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, Bowie Kuhn couldn't do it in this day and age,
could he?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean, he just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Bowie Kuhne was effective in a system that had a
reserve clause and there was no free agency. Uberov came
in and free agency fermented, and we all know what
happened to the Reds in the late seventies and early eighties.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I just to me, I mean, if.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You look at this team, tell me give me one.
I mean you're talking about Tyler Stevenson, and I understand
that completely. I think Tyler Stevenson, as you said, he's
above average defensively, he's hitting the ball as well as
he's ever hit the ball right now, But one way
or the other, he's going to be gone at the
end of the year. So there's no contract. According to him.
There's been no extension talks since last year, so I

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think the Reds pretty much have put the writing on
the wall with regard to him. But I mean, these
other they really would have liked to have traded in
my opinion, Nick Ladolo and Spencer Steere, but they're both hurt.
So other than Hunter Green, I don't know what kind
of ransom you're going to get back from anybody that
you would make available in the trade market. But I mean, Bill,
this team, even if they do all the right things,

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are they contending next year?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I don't know. I really don't.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I don't think anybody can look at this team and say, yeah,
they've always had a recipe for winning. They haven't been
relevant since twenty thirteen on the main Ajor League Baseball
Grand Stage. Why would it suddenly happen overnight?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
That was a good answer, but it didn't answer my question.
Here's my question to reak Schooble. Does that make it
more likely there's going to be a lockout? And I
think the Dodgers likely will sign him to some five
hundred million dollar deal in October to get around whatever's
going to happen with the lockout. Does scoobal make it
more likely the owners are going to say we can't

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live like this?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, of course your question wasn't answered initially because it
became convoluted, but I'll try to get precise here in
this answer. I think it's excellent the chances of there
being a lockout after the season, regardless of Schooble or not.
And yes, I think they will try to resign Schooble.
But that's where baseball is right now is they're a
collection of thirty owners that can't govern themselves. When they

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try to govern themselves, the court step in and they
get into trouble. They've never won against the Major League
Baseball Players Association to arbitration or in a law. So
that's the problem with baseball right now is that they
have unleashed this mass of just feeding frenzy. When it
comes to salary for the big market teams in New

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York and Chicago and LA they can't police themselves. They're
unable to police themselves. So yeah, that's why they're going
to dig in and demand a salary cap. They want
they being the lesser lights in baseball, the smaller market teams,
they're looking desperately for some sort of competitive balance and
they're looking, I think, at somebody to come in and
try and fix the situation. They blew up themselves when

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they didn't play ball. No pun intended with the players
all those years ago in the sixties and seventies where
you couldn't move from one team to another because you
were bound to that club for the rest of your life.
Think about that. So no, I think there will be
a lockout, and I think there will be an interruption
next year. And whether or not there's a salary cap,
I don't know. But I do think the owners, some

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of them, at least, they are willing to die on
that hill.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Home home has a ceiling, and every home has a basement.
The players want a basement. And the owners want a ceiling.
Will there be a basement and or a ceiling? Give
me a full report.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, the players won't agree to a salary cap in
any way, shape or form, so they're not going to
call it a salary cap, but in terms of actual dollars,
there will be no agreement from the players Association unless
it forces teams like the Reds, like the Royals, others,
teams that don't spend a lot of money on salary,

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unless it forces them to spend money to make it
more competitive for the players that are out there having
their services bid for in free agency. And I don't
know whether the Castellinis have that kind of money. I
think they do, but I don't know. I haven't seen
their books. I think it's very hard to lose money
in Major League Baseball, particularly with all of these ancillary

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ways you can raise revenue with signage and things like that.
But I think there will have to be a floor
for the players to agree to any salary cap. They
don't want a ceiling. They want a ceiling that's on
infinitem that goes up into the stars and the clouds to.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Be paid by by the Dodgers, the Reds, have a
payroll now of about one hundred and twenty one hundred
and twenty five million, and the players, some of their experts,
are talking about a floor of one hundred and seventy
five million dollars. Now the Reds get off their books
next year, lots of money. The Reds man to spend
an additional sixty or eighty million dollars to play And

(09:32):
I'm not saying the Castellini said that kind of money.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, and that goes back to your Tyler Stevenson argument.
Why would they pay him now? And why would he
agree to any contract now if he knows that's the
case for all thirty teams, even the small market teams,
if this cap goes through, would have to spend at
least one hundred and seventy five million dollars in salary. Well,
the Reds aren't going to give him any kind of

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money that he could command on the open market come
reagency beginning in November, if indeed there is a season
next year, So why would they commit to that now
with next season uncertain? And why would he commit to
that now? Knowing that if there is a Florida a
salary cap, he might be able to make infinitely more money.
So the economics and all of that plays into where
they are today, which is, if i'm them, put all

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of that aside. One of these guys makes me better
in twenty twenty seven. And I think the list of
the players they have right now is a lot. It's
a lot thinner than what the average fan knows.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
This is another interesting subject matter, which is the WNBA.
I'm sure you're a great fan of Caitlin, etc. You
love her, and I agree with that. I would take
this approach with your permission. Of course, the WNBA ought
to be about women's sports. Maybe that's unique. I'm watching
a story right now on Fox and WNBA coaches defend

(10:53):
transgender athletes. Almost all of them do. Sophie Cunningham, my
distant cousin, disagrees. I would say that ken Brew when
camp opens next year, I think they open up like
in February or March. A WNBA they ought to say
that if you're a biological male who identifies as a woman,
you're more than welcome to come into our camp and

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to compete for a spot. I could see four to
five hundred male athletes who couldn't quite get out of
college to go to the NBA to say, you know what,
I'm a man, but I identify as a woman. Therefore
I want to play in the WNBA. So if Caitlin
Clark and Sophie cunning Him, etc. And Caitlin Clark was
so much, I always say noncommittal, but certainly Sophie cunning Him,

(11:37):
my distant cousin, is not. For some reason, the WNBA
wants to embrace biological males who identify as a woman.
I think there's a few hundred biological males who would
dominate the WNBA, including Caitlon Collins would have no chance
or Sophie Cunningham would have no chance playing against a
six foot seven inch man who identifies as a woman.

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So why don't you say to the WNBA, Okay, you
embrace this, go at it, don't talk about it, do it?
Open up your camps to college basketball male players who
claim to be a female but are males. Does it
make sense to the WNBA to be involved on these
social issues when they're struggling anyway and losing money? You

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know what I'm saying? Will they embrace males playing? Don't
talk about it? Do it?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah? Well, I don't think they will. I don't know
what their strategy is. A lot of this stuff that
seems to be going on to me seems to be contrived. Look,
the WNBA, in games not involving Caitlin Clark, average is
about eight hundred and thirty to eight hundred and forty
thousand viewers per game. This is in a country of

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three hundred and forty million people. In games that Caitlin
Clark is involved, that number goes to about one point
two million viewers. But it's not great. My data on
this is old, but I can tell you when I
finished my television career at WCPO Channel nine, the ABC
affiliate WNBA games would lead into our Sunday six o'clock

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news broadcast. The numbers for those NVWNBA games were minuscule.
I don't mean like ten percent, fifteen percent. I mean
like three percent. Two percent of all television sets in
the greater Cincinnati area, whether on or off or on
the dot, we're watching the WNBA. It's a leg that

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really has not had any identity until Caitlin Clark came around.
So again, I'm not saying that she's not getting hurt.
I'm not saying that there's resentment for her, whether it's
right or wrong. And it's not to dodge your question.
I will get to it here in just a second.
I'm just saying I think it's a league that is
striving for any kind of attention it can get, and

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I think a lot of this talk and all that
is designed to do that. Some of these coaches that
are weighing in on that that's their personal opinion. You
haven't heard that, to my knowledge yet from the woman
that's in charge of that leg, the commissioner. You haven't
heard that from Adam Silver, who is in charge of
the NBA. So I don't know if these are isolated

(14:21):
instances coaches saying the right things, trying to keep peace
on their team. You know, it's kind of reminds me
of what was going on when we had the whole
kneeling thing before NFL games, and you know, some teams
didn't want to be on the field, some players didn't
want to kneel on all. I think you got a
lot of people going rogue right here on this, And
until you hear anything definitive from the people leading that leg,

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I wouldn't draw any conclusions. I will say this though,
to go back to my main point. I don't think
it's a leg that gets on a hole in the nation,
a whole lot of attention, particularly outside of markets that
have WNBA teams.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
None, that's none, Ping Pong's more or exciting, ken Brew.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I say, I'm saying, on a Sunday afternoon, would you
sit down and watch a w NBA game when the
sun's out, the weather's nice, wouldn't you be out doing something.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I would not? And the answer is yes, I'll do
anything because that's it. I'm not going to watch it.
But anyway, ken Brew, let's not wait several months for
your next two parents. You bring something many do not,
what's in the historical references and also great judgment.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, let me ask you this. Do you think you'll
call again? Should I have the phone handy on Mondays?
Could I turn down all of these offers, exciting or
otherwise on Mondays just to be available in case you call?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Maybe, ken Brew, thank you for on vacation. Go on
vacation so I can work. Ken you're the man, the
voice of the the uncommon voice of the average American.
Thank you, ken Brew. Continue from my perspective out what

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you're saying. If you want biological males to play in
the WNBA, invite them in a summer camp and let's
see what happens. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW
My Billy Cunningham, hit the music, Dave keeps in. Hits
the music and picking up the pieces of what ken
Brew had to say will be quite interesting looking to

(16:23):
my right. There's no afternoon baseball games today, I guess
for a specific reason, since today's the trading deadline six
pm Eastern time. According to one knowledgeable source, the Reds
are going to wait between four and six pm to
pick up the pieces of what's left to see who
comes and who goes. It's kind of said the economics
of the game. It's awful, and you have the majority

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of teams that can't afford to have a shall we say,
a floor, and they don't want to spend the ceiling
because there is no ceiling. So you have teams like
Milwaukee and Tampa that have lower pay rolls in the
Reds and the floor being discussed is in the one
hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five million
dollar range, which means the Reds spend right now about
one hundred and twenty five million, but after shall we

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say this season, they drop off about thirty five million,
which means the Reds would have to spend an additional
one hundred million dollars a year in payroll to get
to the floor. And I doubt the Reds are going
to vote for that, and the majority of baseball teams
and the major leagues aren't going to vote for that.
They do not want They want to be able to
control their own checkbook, you know what I'm saying. They

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want to be able to control what they spend. So
if you're one of the small market teams such as
Kansas City or Minnesota, or maybe Cleveland, or the Angels
they stink even though they're in LA, they really stink.
Or the Athletics, I guess the Vegas Athletics or the
Miami Marlins don't spend much money. The Nationals don't spend

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much money. The Mets spend like drunken sailors on shore
leave and they're terrible. The Reds don't spend much money,
not to Saint Louis or the Pirates. About over half
the clubs will not agree to a U huge basement
of spending because they barely make money at this point.
In fact, a lot of them lose money. And I

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would think, despite the protestations of the great Ken Brew
that the Schoopal deal with Los Angeles is going to
impel the owners to say, we can't live in this
system at all, even though believe it or not, the
Milwaukee Brewers, a small market team that spends less money
than the Reds, right now have the best record in Baseball,
better record than the Dodgers. And of course Tampa Bay

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traditionally has got along quite well with less. They've won
right now about sixty percent of their games, and they're
in first place by two and a half over the Yankees.
But Tampa Bay, shall we say the Rays have won
ever has won a World Series Yet Milwaukee, I think
has won one, like a nineteen eighty two. So I

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don't know what to say. I know one thing is
all screwed up. And the NFL, you're gonna have small
market team like Pittsburgh and like Green Bay and like
the Bengals can do well every now and then against
the big market teams, and New York Giants have stunk
for many, many years. And the Rams, by the way,
are pretty good in Los Angeles. So maybe it involves

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itself in football more with the general manager and the
selection of players. But the Reds now between the rock
and a hard place. And you heard him talk about
Tyler Stevenson, who wants to be on the ball club.
He's twenty nine years old, he's making eight million dollars
a year. How they fought like crazy in March. They
were like two hundred thousand dollars apart and Tyler Stevenson
went to a final conclusion and won. Additionally, he's making

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like eight million dollars a year. So it's all messed up.
It's screwed up. I don't know where it's headed. But
this team right now is in last place. But no
team in the division has had a better record than
the Reds the past ten games. In fact, since the
All Star break, what about three weeks ago, they've been
pretty good. Nonetheless, how long does that last? I have

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no idea. Plus, it appears that they would happily get
rid of Suarez, who they're paying fifteen million dollars to
that's not performed at all. And if someone would say
to me or you, who plays left field for the Reds, Well,
it depends who plays center field. Well, this guy or
that guy Marte or maybe Jo. I don't know TJ.
Who plays right field. Now, we don't know who's at

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third base, Well Hayes, but he's terrible. Dela Cruz is
a star who plays second base. We thought the future
was a Arroyo didn't turn out at all. McClean okay,
first base, Well, I guess that's Sal. I'm not sure
he's got to play somewhere. He's been unbelievable this year.
And the catcher Stevenson starting pitchers not too bad. So
we'll see what happens with that. You and I can't

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control it. We watch it. And I was born a
Reds fan, I live a Reds fan. I will die
a Reds fan. Secondly, sometime later today, by six o'clock,
there should be some trading going on. We'll see what happens.
And according to ken Brew, he would keep four players.
They're untouchables, and the rest of them like a bag
of balls and a rosen bag. Just get what you
can and away you go. But the next few months

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will be interesting, and the one wild card next year
is going to be Donald Trump for the Reds. By that,
I mean May if there's no settlement. Donald Trump's going
to impose one by executive order, much like he's going
to have an executive order on the Save America Act.
So I don't know what's going to happen next year,
but it's going to be ugly. Secondly, today, as you

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may know, is August third. Mitch McConnell by Kentucky law,
should he die or become incapacitated and resign from the Senate,
there would not be a special election. Thomas Massey, my
good friend in yours from northern Kentucky, was waiting to
become the next US Senator from Kentucky because if there
was a vote statewide, would Massy win. I don't know,

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not sure, but he wanted to at this point. If
he dies or becomes disabled resign today forward, there would
not be a special election, and the candidates are running
and each party in November would simply stand for election
to the US Senate. And so at least we think
Mitch McConnell's been alive the past several weeks, but many

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are uncertain. Nonetheless, that is a part of the Senate
which has begun retirement Center. Two of the problems with
the founding Fathers. One, we should have had term limits,
term limits and term limits for every federal officer elected
term limits. They didn't do that. Secondly, they should have
had some provision that said that the United States must
every year balance its budget. We can't. We can't deficit

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spend unless there's a two thirds vote, two thirds of
the Senate. But for that. Those are the two mistakes
I think the Founding Father's made, which are almost insoluble
at this point, there's nothing to do. It reminds me
of your good friend of mine, John Adams. My wife
the people Judge Penny loves to read about Thomas Jefferson
and John Adams. She believe it or not, My wife

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has simultaneously three different books she's reading. Ever since I've
known her, going back some forty some years. She has
three books she's always reading. One an historical book about
generally the Founding Fathers, another one is a novel of
one type or another, and the third book is how
to Make something. She has three books reading simultaneously. And

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she tells me to look up what John Adams said
about a terrifying prediction which is now coming true. And
I said, what is it? John Adams? One of the
Founding Fathers, among other things, said that in today's world,
quote democracy never lasts, it's soon waste, exhaust, and murders itself.

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Democracies always commit suicide quote unquote. John Adams said that
in seventeen seventeen eighty nine, and I thought, okay, put
that in more practical terms, America. You might recall when
Adams came out of the last meeting in the Constitutional
Convention Independence Hall in Philadelphia. Have been several times my

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wife and sister we go there regularly said that the
Founding Fathers believed they knew about history, knew about the
Greek philosophers, knew about the greatest political and economic and
philosophical thinkers of all time. And they deliberately created in
America a constitutional republic, a constitutional republic built upon limited government,

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physical responsibility, the First Ten Amendments, or individual liberty, and
the protection of inalienable rights. They believed in three things. One,
our rights come from God, not from government. I don't
want to tell the Democratic socialists this. God gives each
person human rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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Not happiness, but pursue happiness. And God gives us those
rights individually, according to John Adams, and that the role
of government is to guard and protect us from those
who would take away our individual rights. We are, in
a sense and a real sense, above the government. We're
more important than government because God gave you rights from

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the moment of conception until natural death, and government's rollers
to protect those individual rights. That's number one, rights come
from God. Number two a novel concept. All men and
women are credit equal. In fact, it was so important
that Thomas Jefferson put that in the Declaration of Independence,
like the first line that all men are credit equal.

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Now we also include women and transgender All men, all
human beings are credit equal. That's a novel concept in
seventeen seventy six when there were no democracies. And secondly,
there was never a sense your rights came not from
God but from government or the king. And secondly, what
do you mean men are credit equally. There's slavery everywhere

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all over the world. In fact, America stop slavery, and
the English stop slavery when Africans and Asians can continued
it through today, there's more slaves alive today than ever
before in human history. Right now, enslaved in the Arab
world and also in Africa, and the African leadership during
the slave trade benefited greatly from slavery, and they were

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angry that America stopped it. They were angry that the
English stopped it. They wanted to keep going, and they're
still going today. For example, in Nigeria, there's one hundred
thousand Christians and Catholics slaughtered by the Muslim Arabs. And
guess what, there's no outcry from anybody at any point.
So I kind of digress. Number one, God gives us rights,

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not government. Number two, all men and women are credit equal.
And number three limited government and democracy in a sense
that we vote and that the people are held to
account to have become informed. So one, rights come from God.
Number two we're all equal at the starting block when
we're born. That's the goal. And number three, we have

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limited government, which involves fiscal responsibility. Think about this. In
the last two hundred and fifty years, we have survived many,
many wars, one ongoing today, great recessions and great depressions.
We have survived pandemics and invasions. British troops invaded Us

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in the War of eighteen twelve and burned the Capitol
and burned the White House, and we survived because the
principles that were rested upon at the creation, which are
values of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, physical responsibility, individual liberty,
protection of unailable rights, are duty to vote, etc. So

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what's happened now? According to John Adams that looking at
what we're facing now, the stock market's way up right now,
and most Americans, you and I I have an alarm
going off in my head. Maybe you that's something wrong.
We have plentiful financial markets, we have ubiquitous government programs,

(28:08):
We have impressive Americans accumulating great wealth. We have relatively
mild inflation compared to historical standards, and we have relatively
low interest rates to get a mortgage, unlike when I
got my first house and the mortgage rate was sixteen
or seventeen percent. So you might say to the great American, well,

(28:30):
what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Then?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Why are you saying this to me on this Monday afternoon?
It is simple. One reason the national debt is hiding
in plain sight as a dagger into our hearts that
will be thrust at some point by foreign powers. The
national debt right now is forty trillion dollars. We pay

(28:55):
more an interest, not principal interest on the national debt.
Ye that any department of government, which is about one
point two trillion dollars every year. And according to Donald
Trump and I'm sure the next Democrat, that they're adding
two to three trillion dollars per year to the national debt.

(29:18):
In fact, going back from seventeen to eighty eight until now,
forty trillion dollars of that number is going to be
sixteen trillion of the forty trillion. Pretty good number. Sixteen
of forty that's about what about forty percent of the
total debt of this country has been accumulated during the

(29:38):
presidencies of Donald Trump and the next guy and Joe Biden.
If you take assuming he completes the last two years
of his term. So many people want to kill the guy.
I have my doubts. But assuming Trump completes eight years
in office, along with the four years of Joe Biden,
you take all that together, the two of them are

(30:02):
going to have approximately twenty four trillion and national debt,
which is over fifty three percent of the total, and
it's accelerating. We're no one's having a debate, right now
about how to cut federal government spending. Nobody History tells
you and I repeatedly that no great nation, no matter
how strong, can abandon financial literacy and discipline. Empires throughout

(30:29):
history have risen and fallen based upon financial collapse first,
and that's the name of that tune. So when the
crash happens, it may be tomorrow, It maybe in a week,
it may be a month, hell, it might be in
ten years. But it's going to happen that when we
offer every quarter trillions of dollars of new debt, there

(30:52):
won't be enough money to handle it. And secondly, insurance companies,
foreign governments and powers won't be able to buy it.
They're going to say, we can't afford this anymore, and
there'll be no one left to rescue you. In the
United States, our economy share of the world economy is
about twenty five percent, and those consequences are going to

(31:13):
extend far beyond borders in nations. It'll be a devastation
worse than the Great Depression. And right now, the GDP,
the debt right now is one hundred and thirty percent
of GDP, and it was thought one hundred percent would

(31:34):
be dangerous and now it's about one hundred and thirty
And each year we have to refinance trillions of old
debt and maturing debt while simultaneously borrowing trillions more to
cover the annual deficit. And twenty twenty five alone we
roughly ten trillion dollars in borrowing will be required to

(31:55):
roll over a maturing debt. On top of that, we
go back into the market to borrow more and more money.
And the whole strategy depends upon lenders continuing to purchase
you at debt US debt at affordable interest rates, which
is why inflation is going to be a constant problem.
And I had hopes that this president would restrain federal spending. Instead,

(32:18):
Donald Trump is accelerating it. And the next president, God forbid.
If in twenty twenty eight Kamala Harris wins the presidency
and AOC is the head of the Senate and a
King Jeffrey is going to run the House, that debt
they will spend will be well dwarf all the borrowing
of Donald Trump, much like Joe Biden did after the

(32:39):
first Trump term. That is the problem. I may not
be here with you at the time, but mark my
words in this August third. This is a dagger that
will destroy America, and our enemies want that to take place.
Let's continue after one o'clock today. We've scheduled Denise tree House,

(32:59):
the chair of the Hamley County Commission, to come on.
Bridget Doherty, the news Authority tells me she'll join me
live in about ten minutes at shown of the Reds.
Hopefully the Reds will make the right trades between now
and six o'clock, if they trade at all. On News
Radio seven hundred, I'm Billy cunning in the Great American

(33:26):
f two o'clock today, a live report from Oegar. Any
possible Reds trades that might be occurring. As you may know,
the trading deadline is six o'clock today, and I'm sure
at Denise tree House, head of the County Commissioners, keeping
an eye on that. Denise tree House, welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Denise, I
know you have lots of free time. What are your
thoughts keeping Tyler Stevenson or not with the Reds? Do

(33:49):
you think that are the Reds calling you? Frenny wece
on the trade deadline?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Not yet Willie. But I am a big fan of
the Reds and so I trust their judgment.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I do love it.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
We're bringing the County Commissioners Association down here to Cincinnati
in a couple of weeks and we're taking them all
to the Reds game, and they could not be more excited.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Great, let's talk about the Children's services levy, which is
more it's your main to your Bailey Wack. What was
the vote this morning and the County commissioner about the
children's services level? What was the vote?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So we voted to put a moderate increase on the
ballot thirty eight percent, down from the recommendation we got
from the Tax Levery Review Committee, which was closer to
seventy five percent. But we recognize that people are struggling
with property taxes and we took it as low as
we could go and still sustain some support for children

(34:41):
in this community that we're trying to keep safe.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
What services does the levee cover?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
So these are.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Cost of care for kids coming into our system. So
it's kinship care, foster care, and those are really important
and a lot of the kids are in those those
kinds of settings. But what's constant the most by way
of increases is this higher level of care because the
kids that are coming in have more severe needs, they've
got more severe trauma, and so they cannot go into

(35:11):
a foster care setting and be safe and keep the
rest of that family safe, and so they need to
go in this higher level of care. It takes more
people and it takes more resources to do that. And
so over the last since twenty twenty one, we've seen
a ninety percent increase in placement costs and so that's
driving off the cost of the levy.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
So Teddy in the last five years has been a
ninety percent increase.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Placement cost of increase more than ninety percent since twenty
twenty one. Why because of this cost of care that
I just talked about. Because the level of care has
to be higher and it costs more, and the providers
have the options because everybody's looking for this kind of care,
like we're not the only ones in this situation, and

(35:58):
so they're getting calls from county and Warren County of
Montgomery County to place kids, and so we're competing for
these placements and we want to keep these kids as
close to home as possible. So you know, We're challenged
to find spots for our kids sometimes and it costs
more to do it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
And Denise Treehouse, isn't this terrible timing. I look at
the school board tonight, I think is going to put
on the ballot a big property tax increase for CPS.
They're likely to rescind their income tax proposal because the
Democrats and city council went crazy on that one, thinking, Okay,
we're going to ask for an increase, call it a
safety levee, and in the next three or four months,

(36:37):
we're going to increase. We want the voters in the
city to vote for a big increase on the on
the income tax. And so they were more or less
told by the Democrats on council have to have pure
of all at all, don't do that. So they're going
to back down and say, Okay, it's going to be
a property tax increase. And so this fall the citizens
are going to be asked to grossly increase children's services

(36:59):
levy and it appears that's a fifty percent increase rising
from one hundred and twenty one dollars per one hundred
thousand for four years and a big increase on that's
going to be a big increase on the school levee,
both hitting in November. Isn't this bad timing?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
So let me just say that for the taxpayers related
to the Children's Services levee, the increase is thirty nine
dollars on a homeowner that has one hundred thousand dollars home.
And I know that's some metrics that we always use,
but that's what we've got. And so from my vantage point,
you know, the recommendation was quite a bit higher than
this to cover the cost. And so what we've had

(37:37):
to do here is go lower by way of property
taxes and find that funding somewhere else. And so the
administration has worked on that, and so we've got other
reserves that we're going to use to fill that gap.
So we have gone down significantly and what we're asking
the taxpayers for by way of property tax, and I
think that's important. But to your point, yeah, people are

(37:59):
strained by way of proverty tax. Remember I was on
that property tax committee. The governor appointed me a bipartisan
commission to look at this, and we made recommendations to
the state as to how they could provide some structural
relief but also some short term relief. They took up
the structural relief and that's fine, but they did not
do the short term relief that we were asking them

(38:20):
to do. And so people are really struggling right now
to pay that increase in their property taxes.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
You have connections in Columbus, a legislator, etc. Alesha Reese
was also a legislator. Are you looking toward the state
government to pay more of these services for investigations of CPS,
foster care, adoption, family reunification, all that. Do you want
Columbus to pay more money for this program?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Well, well, let me put that in perspective for you.
And I'm not going to speak about the school because
they do they speak well for themselves. But by way
of children's services, we are the second last in the
country when it comes to the states funding children's services.
Couple of years ago we were last, and to double it,
we'd still be last. And so Governor de Wine, because

(39:06):
this is a high priority for him, put in more money,
not much mine. You were still second last in the country,
but at least it was a move in the right direction.
But we're woefully underfunded by the state. Should be a
partner in this. I mean, these kids are our kids,
all of our kids, and they should be a partner
like every other state in the country, but they haven't
done it, and so now we're made up to make

(39:27):
the difference here locally. And it puts so much pressure
on local taxpayers because the state is not doing their part,
and they're sitting on the highest ever Rainy Day fund
and they have some capacity to help out here.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I kind of know those men and women in Columbus
say they're very proud with having a Randy Day fund
and no taxes, as low taxes as possible. The veg Ramaswami,
who is likely to be the next governor, who knows
what might happen with Amy acting, but at least it's
close in the polls. But he wants to get rid
of the property taxes completely and also get rid of

(40:01):
the state income tax. So if you get rid, if
you get rid of the property taxes completely from and
also the state income tax, how do you raise money?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Well, how do you provide services? I mean, you know,
what what does that mean? I mean, talk and talk
to the folks out in the townships about that. I mean,
we have a reliance on taxes to pay for safety services.
Sheriff deputies nine to one one call taker. I mean,
that's what that's what the taxes pay for. And so
if you're going to eliminate our ability to provide the resources,

(40:32):
I want to know what that means. I mean, who
in the world is going.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
To do that?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
And so that's creates a huge hole. And let me
just say Willie that that I hear that. That's one perspective.
But we have been working closely with the business community
in Hamilton County related to this levee, and the Chamber
of Commerce has come out and endorse the levee at
the thirty eight percent increase that I talked about. So
we are doing our work here to make sure that
we've got a coalition of individuals to support this. And

(41:00):
so it's the chamber and the business community, it's also
the faith community who held a press conference yesterday. We're
talking to labor, We're talking to everybody to make sure
that people are on board with this levy and they
understand the need and how low we have gone by
way of what we're asking taxpayers to do.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
You may know I had on Alisha Reese last week
and she said on the air and she wanted to know.
I'm sure you've heard this from her that why did
you vote to approve a new lease agreement with the
Bengals contributing three hundred and fifty million dollars for upgrades
to pay Corps when you knew the Children's Services Levy
was at risk. What's your answer to that.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Well, we're talking about completely different things. The sales tax.
Remember people voted for that sales tax back in the
day to build and maintain two stadiums on the riverfront,
and so we are you know, we have that fund
set aside for that purpose. The only fungible amount there,
by the way, if you look at the obligations in

(42:00):
what we've got there and what we've had to do
over the years is debt service maintenance on the building,
and we've got that pilot for the schools, which we
have to do. The part that's fungible that moves around
a little bit is the PTR the property tax rebate,
and so we have always tried to do as much
as we can there. It's not always been thirty percent

(42:20):
on the first to admit that because the numbers don't work,
I mean, it doesn't pencil out, and so it's not
as if we've got a lot of money sitting around
in that fund and if we were to take it
from the PTR, that's property tax relief for property tax payers, right.
So it's a little confusing for me to think about
it in those terms because we're talking about the Children's

(42:41):
Services levey, which relies on property tax. But we're looking
at other ways to fill in that gap through our reserves,
through some of the interest earnings. So we're being creative here.
We've never done this before that Children's services is funded
through property taxes and in our county and every other
county in the state, and so now we're all because

(43:02):
of all these pressures, we're having to look at creative
ways to fund it, and that's what we've done.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Alisia Ree said that it takes some take ten percent
of the sales tax for the obligation, and she said,
we're not doing that. Why can't you take ten percent
of the sales tax revenue to fund Children's Services levy.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
The money is obligated to other things related to the
sales tax, So you can't cannot pay debt service. You
can't say to you the debt service. You know, the
people that bought that day, Oh yeah, we're not going
to pay you. What do you think that does to
our credit rating? I mean that we can't do that.
We can't renig on the obligations that we have, and
so we have no choice but to look for the

(43:45):
resources that are available to us, that have always been
available to us to fund children's services. And this community
has always stepped up when it comes to children's services.
And so once again I understand. I mean, we're all
out in the community, we're all talking to people, and
we had three public hearings on this, and we heard
a lot about people talking to us about the needs

(44:08):
in the community. They want us to support the children's
services levy, They supported the increase in it. We had
a couple people come in and talk about the pressure
on property tax which I understand and I hear. And
so what the equation for me was, how do we
do as much as we can to stabilize this fund
and go as low as we can go for the taxpayers.
And that's where we arrived at the thirty eight percent.

(44:30):
So it's thirty nine dollars, as I said, per year
for one hundred thousand dollars home.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I had on your fellow commissioner at David Young and
Warren County, and I went over some of the things
I paid for in my property tax bill, which all
Hamlet County residents pay for, and he said, we pay
for most of those out of general revenue of the
county without having to have special levies. And I said, well,
the reason is you don't have pay corps and you

(44:55):
don't have the Great American Ballpark. You don't have those issues.
Said yeah, well we got the tennis tournament and that's
a net positive because of the sales tax that we use.
We have all these other services we provide in Warren County,
but we don't go to the taxpayer to pay for
it specifically, because we have enough money from the sales
tax to pay for everything. What's your response to.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
That, Well, if you looked at the chart on our
sales tax income for Hamilton County, it is and I
have a chart. Hold on, I'm going to go grab
the piece of paper because I have this chart. We're
very low when it comes to what we're relying on
by way of sales tax. So which county were you
talking about?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Warren County, Warren County, Tennis.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Tennis turn Warren is out. Warren County has a higher
sales tax than we do in Hamilton County. Now I'm
not talking about the dollar amount, but rather the percentage.
And so we are doing less for our general fund
by way of sales tax than other counties, and we
are like the lowest in the state. It's really something

(45:56):
because we've got these pressures, don't forget about and I
you know, look, I support all these things, but that
also puts pressure on the sales tax, and so we
have to rely on different funding sources. And Willie, let's
just say that when I arrived at the County Commission,
all seven levees existed and they rely on property tax.

(46:17):
So it's not like I set this up. This is
the first time ever we have said we can't just
rely on property taxes for children's services. We've got to
look at other funding sources. And that's what that's what
you're saying, and that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
When I look at my property tax bill from Jill Schiller,
I see that as a homeowner, I pay for the
Zoo Senior Services, Children's Services, Crime Information Center, which is
nine to one one, the Park District, Developmental Disabilities, mental
health Levey, the Health Hospital Care Indigent Levy, the Family

(46:54):
Services Treatment Levy, the public Library Levy, the general Fund
of the county which is you, the joined Vocational School Levey,
the township. I had them all up. It's a huge number,
and the number one expense is Children's Services, other than
of course the school district which is Indian Hill, and
also the township gets a little piece of that, Tom weedman.

(47:17):
But the most expensive of these ten or eleven for
all taxpayers in Almony County is Children's Services Levy. How
many kids are how many kids are served by that?
Do you have any idea each year? It's a bunch.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
So it's it's thirteen thousand, I believe thirteen thousand, and Will, yeah,
it's a lot of kids. We've got over twenty two
hundred kids in our care right now. Willy, let me
just say, let me convey a story to you, and
I'm going to get back to the pie chart that
you just referred to. Let me just talk about something.
So on a recent Friday afternoon, we had a call

(47:53):
at Children's Services. Fourteen kids came into our care that afternoon,
fourteen kids from this community. And so we had to
place those fourteen kids are caseworkers. They spent all day,
they were well into the evening trying to make sure
that they could place those kids. And I have them
sleeping in our offices over the weekend, which has happened before.

(48:15):
That's what we're talking about. And the needs of these
kids is so much higher than they used to be.
Back when we were kids, we didn't have the trauma
that we're seeing in these kids right now. They're abused,
they're neglected. It's terrible, and we just saw play out
in Finton County. So you need to look no further
to Minton County to try to get to understand what
we're talking about here. And so that's the reason we've

(48:38):
got so many kids coming into care. Children in care
have increased nineteen percent since twenty twenty one, So that
plays into the equation as well. But let's get back
to your pie chart and talk about where your taxes
are going. Because the property taxes you are correct, depending
on where you live, the municipality is getting a lot
of that share, the schools are getting a lot of

(49:00):
that share, or you know, depending on where you live.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
So, but if you look at that pie chart and
you look at those slivers of levees. Children's services is
one of the biggest levees for Hamilton County because the
need is so much higher than and the zoo is
a very small levee, and some of them are tiny,
but this one's the larger because of the need in
the community for it, and this community has said yes
to providing that kind of care for kids. So you know,

(49:27):
and as you know, the libraries and the parks are
not under our control. We controlled seven of those levees
and those levees were set up and the voters have
voted for those levees in the past to provide those services.
And you're right, it's people with disabilities, it's children, it's seniors,
it's mental health. Those are the kinds of things we're

(49:48):
talking about.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
All right, We got to run. Thanks for reporting this
to the American people, and thirteen thousand kids need help,
and it's said we live in a society where so
many adults are irresponsible when it comes to children. Denise
tree House, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Denise,
You're a great American and thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Thanks for your time.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Willie, God bless you. Let's continue with more. There's the
answers from Denise tree House on news radio seven hundred WW.
So that's all I have to say. Hello, Hello, Hello,
piet And I'm spokes I'm broadcasting saying that's Nick Crawl

(50:29):
saying he's got nothing to say. Well, we got the
we got a live feed Willie from the Reds Trade
trade room. Let's let's hear it. He's got nothing to happen. Well,
what's happening at one point PM? I need information? The
latest is rumors that JJ Blodet and the Reds or
the Reds is uh could be traded to the Astros

(50:51):
on the other and it may not be, it may
not be. Another one is another one that's making the
rounds is Brady Singer. What about him? Who's one of
the ones who is expiring contract done, may be headed
to the back end and be a part on the
back end of the rotation of the Philadelphia Phillies. What
about Tyler Stevenson? We don't know, and that he's up
in the air. Two what do we do segment? I'm

(51:15):
sure they want to get something for some of these guys,
and not when they're gone they walk in free agency,
you get nothing.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
In like it.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Why not keep Tyler Stevenson who wants to be here? It'
said eight million a year? Is that too much?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
You got Alfredo Duno coming up? Will he he's any good? Yes?
Very good? How do you know he's tearing up the
minor leagues like crazy? Why not happen? Is the catcher
in the future and keep Tyler here for a couple
of years. I don't know that that's that's a pay
grade above me what he just said. I I don't
have anything to say. Probably around four o'clock or after

(51:47):
the deadlines at six. Got to do something. I'm going
to stay this shocking. Somebody said this morning what happens
if they do nothing? I mean, it's okay compared to
what I don't know. I mean, who's said the last
ten games, no team in the division is a better
record than the Reds. They've only lost one series since
the old start break, and they're only five games out

(52:10):
of the way. They took three out of four over
the weekend of the Pirates and and and rain storms
and hurricanes and typhoons. They got down Lennings coming to town.
They're no good. You know what we get? We give
a gold start of the Reds grounds crew a job
for doing their doing that job. In the middle of
all those I got a question for you before you
get to the formal aspects of the student report. Uh huh.

(52:32):
The w n B is in the news like every day,
and I'm thinking, Okay, why don't you because all these
coaches and players that want biological men to play in
the w n b A, right, do it? Yeah, don't
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, I'm a biological male, but I identify as a woman. Yeah, okay,
well you come in and play. You can shoot. Come on,
let's go for the fever. I mean, Kaitleen Collins wouldn't play, no,
am I right, they got they that started out as
a nice deal and everything else, and now they're getting
into the they're getting into all these all these issues

(53:12):
and stuff, and the w n b A is like,
it's a mess. It is a mess. Well, your commissioner
won't come on, Dan Patrick show, it won't go on.
I mean, come on, commission your commissioner. If you want
men in your league, you're a woman, bring them, bring
them in. Right, Let's see what happened. Yeah, what do
you think would happen? They would start screaming to get

(53:33):
rid of them. I thought the w n B A
was about women, am I am I wrong? That's usually
what it is. You say, girls and girls, boys and boys, women, women, men,
mat I don't get it. Okay, then don't talk about it.
If you identify as a woman, Yeah, let's go play. Yeah,
get about one hundred players from the uh you want it?

(53:54):
Don't make the NBA, and let I identify every now
and then segment I identify as a woman, Well you could?
You could still shoot. I can shoot right. You can
hit him from the V I can hit him for
the midway logo catches. What if I was twenty two
years old, me and Caitlin Clark would tee it up
and see what happened. You don't make it to the NBA,
go to the w NBA and they get paid the
good one a million dollars. Put a wig on. Why

(54:17):
not do you identify as a woman now and then?
I think I do? Oh, you'd be wilma. I'm just
saying that, don't talk about it. Do it? Fight them
into the league. Let's go. When do they have spring training?
As a February March ors up, Let's go bring one
hundred guys in from the SEC that didn't make it

(54:38):
right to the NBA and say, okay, you identify as
a woman. There you go identify as a woman, let's
play basketball. Are they stupid? And they would go crazy
within within two weeks and we don't need I know,
a fifteen year old boys soccer team hammered the US
women's Olympic soccer team. And I guarantee you a good

(55:01):
high school boys team would hammer the w NBA. And
these are sixteen seventeen year old boys, they would hammer.
Why not have leagues for women and leagues for men?
I thought it was the women?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Then?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Am I right about the women National basketball? Yeah? What
about women? I can identify? Can you identify a woman?
Can you say that's a woman? Yeah? Right there? Yeah,
right there? And they come out on this BS all
these social reasons that men have better fay women's sports.
I know, separate but equal? What's wrong? What's wrong with

(55:35):
title nine? Bless her? But she don't know what to say.
And my distant cousin is Sophie Cunningham. Now she's mouthing
off all the women. The w NBA stands for women's
doesn't it not? Man, am I missing something here? Come
on in, let's play and see what happens. Will he

(55:56):
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the Reds are off today. What's wrong with women? I

(56:19):
like women? I want to love more women. Yeah, you
gotta be kidding me. The homes den continues tomorrow night
first with three up against those Athletics. The trading deadlines
coming up at six. As I said to the man
of Moeler, former Red Brett Suitor has been traded from
the Angels to the Braves. Three time batting champion Luis
Arise has gone from the Giants to the Phillies. That

(56:41):
he'll play second base in Philadelphia and move Bryce Harper
to right field. Let's see Bengals working out worked out
this morning for in about an hour and forty five
minutes preseason opener a week from this Thursday against Detroit.
Say that again a week for this Thursday, NASH Football
League preseason pay Corps Stadium versus Detroit. Oh, there you go.

(57:07):
Chicago Bear safety former Cincinnati Bearcat, and I think he's
a Super Bowl champion. Kobe Bryant carted off the field
today during the Bears practice. Looks like some kind of
leg injury with him. The UC Bearcats will kick off
training camp Wednesday at the NIP What about in the
higher ground? What happened? They didn't go there? They're going

(57:27):
to lower ground. Well, yeah, let's see Notre Dame in
Southern cal. This is all ushered in by Rocky Boyman.
Rocky Boyman did this? Notre Dame in Southern cal have
agreed to a four year contract to resume their rivalry
beginning in twenty thirty. Tennis News Cincinnati Open wild cards

(57:48):
go to Serena and Venus. Williams awarded a doubles wild card,
also getting a wild card for the upcoming Tournament of
Sloan Stevens. Scott Sloan, Yeah, lated, he never works anymore?
Does he?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Is?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
He out again? Today? I defense? I defend Scott Sloan's
the clown. NBA News former Saver standout Naji Marshall has
signed a three year, fifty two million dollar contract extension
with the Dallas Mavericks. Really deal runs through twenty thirty.
Marshall averaged fifteen points a game last season. Under about

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Della Cruz going to the Red Sox, well, I guess,
I guess there are reports over the weekend the Reds
and Red Sox had discussions about him, but they couldn't
agree on the deal. I think the Reds wanted Big Poppy,
Carl Yustremsky and and oil Canned Boyd and one of
them all. Yeah, I think they're retired segment. Well whatever,

(58:47):
let's see.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Of course the Dodgers get richer, they get Trek Sobl
Sobl from the from the Tigers. What do you think
about that one? Tyler Malley remember him right handed? Gwent
for the Giants to the braves. Let's see what else
is going on? Anybody big? I need somebody big? Nothing?

(59:08):
Nothing every so far, everything's kind of quiet. I think
there's gonna be a deluge of days. What do you say, then,
why they're gonna have to do? I think they're gonna
do something, but why do something? Right? I like keeping
Tyler Stevenson Am I wrong about this? Nicol keeping Hunter Green.
Nicolodolos set to throw sixty to sixty five pitches in

(59:31):
a rehab of simon Wednesday and Louisville Brandon Williamson remember
him and seen him since April thirtieth? Where is he?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
He pitches Thursday at Triple A. As he's coming back,
coming back, He's coming back. Forgot about him? Let's see.
Also also also Willie and Bengal news. We say congratulations
the Bengals director of cheerleading Charlotte Simons. She was inducted
into the National Football Cheerleaders Hall of Fame over the weekend. Charlotte, Charlotte,

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I like her. Congratulations And last but not least, a
happy birthday goes out today? Who Fritz is four years old?
The hippo? What does Fritz look like now? Little Fritzy? Uh,
he's about a ton yeah, a little bit less, a

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little bit more than me. What about a match up
between areas? We had some update that audio up and
was going to say anymore, I was gonna say, what else?
A matchup between a hippo and a male large grizzly
bear at the grizzly bear and the hippo. Who do
you like in that matchup? What I think is unbeatable,

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isn't it? I would say, I would say so, I
mean they got a bite on you and that's it. Yeah,
Grizzly would claw and fight. Yeah, there's Tucker, Tucker Anger, Tucker.
I think it was a new excuse me a little
like pardon me a little flat ones right there. I

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agree with you. But Joe the male leaders was not
involved with the birth of this new gorilla. Was that
possibly one of those test tube deals? Or was it
the real deal with the gorilla? Oh you mean that
the thirty five old Yeah? Yeah, what about done? Thirty
five year old gorilla? Gorillas are fertile when they're thirty one.
They name him Aramba. If they call him Joe harambe

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Guerrilla Joe, Yes, that'd be the best in honor of him. Yes,
So we'll see what happens. But that's true. I like
to have the Reds to make a real run in
twenty seven or twenty eight with this team, make a
real after the school ol deal. Maybe the owners who
say we can't live like that, and then and then
the Dodgers president said we're not done. What Yeah, they

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got to they got to catch their former red from
from the Mets. So that's that's it. I thought that
might be a place where Stevenson may end up with
the Dodgers. I'd rather keep him here. I don't know
kind of text here from a cop Arambe lives now
only in our memories, Fritz. Never this ARAMBEI of Coursembe

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is dead, right, so executed by Joe Dieters. Now I
knew a name for this gorilla, Arambe two. What about
Harambe Junior? I wonder if he is going to kill
him too? Not in charge of it? Well, he's still
an issue in order from the Serene dies gorilla go

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in front of the Supreme Court of Ohio. That'd being
interested for some kind of problem. You know, I don't know, Seing.
I'm in a state of turmoil right now. I don't
know what to tell you. I don't know what to
tell you either. We'll just we'll just keep monitoring. And Toms.
I found this place on the west side. Never heard
of it, Nick, and Toms, I've heard of it. Had
ever been been there? No, I haven't been there. Went

(01:02:59):
there southday night, loved it, getting ready, of course for
Ron's Rose and the big honoring of Olga and Buddy
de Rosa on August the eleventh. That's gonna be big
that night, big event. I'm the MC of course, to honor,
give roses seg to the living. Don't have remembrances, have
celebrations of life. Correct. And Olga and Buddy DeRosa Trump, Well,

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they were told put him in the put him in
the h ring of honor. Now I said, well, let's
not do that now, the Trumpsters and there there he is.
I hear his voice. Yeah, it's everywhere. He now lives
only in our memory. Yeah, thank you. Give me out

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the stooge report Willie and Otter of a beautiful day
here in the trace date and Fritz is four years old.
Happy birthday, my boy. By the way, it's Fritz and
male I assume, is that right? Do they have female
hippos down there? I think he us to play in
a w NBA, maybe with Harambe Fiona. They got BB
and Fiona. I guess you can tell by hooking them

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up with the gorillas. When you have something there, then
that'd be weird. Now you're got weird. That's weird, Yeah, weird.
And Tucker get them all together, Fiona, get them all together.
See what happens if I tear each other up. That's
a good matchup, right there, a large male silver back
against the hippo. We leave you with the immortal words
of the stood report. I'm satisfied. I'm not sure he is.

(01:04:32):
I hope he is the godfather of sports talk. The
greatest Bengal tied end ever. Yeah, number eighty four from
Utah Bob Trumpy A news radio seven hundred ww toy Moeger.

(01:04:56):
It's now on two to ten Eastern time. A little
less than four remain. I don't know if there's interest
or not in the Reds players to the Reds management
of interest in trading? What about Tyler Stevenson give me
a full report.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Well, the trade deadline is three hours and forty nine
minutes away. And while there have been some deals done
today so far by other teams, as of now now
there has been no Reds activity.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Could it be much ado about nothing and comes six
to ozho one. Nothing's happening at all. It's not a possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, sure, I mean it's a possibility. Although you know,
I think what you have here, there's a difference between
players that you covet and players that you wouldn't mind having.
I think the Reds have some players that other teams
in serious contention wouldn't mind having. I don't know how
many of those players are coveted, and so you know

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they the guys who the Reds have been most connected
to trading have been described as fallback options for other teams.
Most of those guys are rentals. The ideal time to
trade a guy if you're not in the hunt is
when he has a couple of months and then more
time left on his deal, like JJ Bleday, But is

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there a huge market for JJ Bleday? Like Spencer Steer,
But Spencer Steer is hurt. All the other guys are rentals,
and historically speaking, rentals don't get you that much back.
Players that you're going to get for two months, like Stevenson,
Ejuhaneos Juarez, Rock Burke, Pires Johnson, guys like that. So
my guess is there is a deal or two or

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three done. I think if you're hoping for some sort
of franchise altering hall of players back for the guys
the Reds are looking to deal, you're probably going to
be disappointed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
So you trade six baseballs for a half a dozen. Sure?
In other words, is like it, We'll give you time.
Why not just keep Tyler Stevenson, who wants to be here,
who cried on the field with Jim Day. He's no
contract next year. I think he's making eight million dollars
this year. He's entitled to some sort of long term,
guaranteed bonus Layton contract. The Reds don't know if it's

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going to be a ceiling or a floor with the
new CBA. Will there be a ceiling, whether it be
a floor, I can't conceive of they're being a ceiling.
I can conceive of they're being a floor. And if
the Reds have got to spend an additional fifty or
sixty million dollars next year, Tyler would be a good
price for some of that money.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Correct, Yeah, I think there's validity to the suggestion that
they're not going to find next year anybody who's better
than Tyler Stevenson. But maybe Tyler Stevenson now wants to
be a free agent, and so like you could say,
well that the red should offer him an extension, they
can't force him to sign it. And so, yes, he
was very emotional yesterday yes, I wonder who you're going

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to have next year who's better than Tyler Stevenson who's
not yet thirty years old. They have a prospect in
their system by the name of Alfredo Duno, who everybody loves,
but he's twenty and still maybe a ways away. And
so if it's hey, find a way to bring back
Tyler Stevenson next year or for two years, let's go.

(01:08:04):
If it's hey, Tyler's looking for a place where you
know he's going to get a four or five year
contract for a catcher who's moving into his thirties, the
Reds would probably hesitate when it comes to doing such
a thing, and I know they have because if not,
I think there would have been more chatter about signing
him long term.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Let's talk philosophically, Okay, scoobl signs. I guess he's going
to sign in October. I would think I read some
stuff out of LA that, assuming he works out the
next two months, which is likely, well, the Dodgers would
sign him to some extension before that CBA expires December.
The first school ball is going to make five hundred
million dollars something in that range. Does that make the

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owners think we got to change this system, or does
it make the players think things are pretty good?

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I think that silently, there are a lot of owners
who are happy that Trek Schooble's a Dodger because what
it does is it emboldens the collective right, because I
think the way we talk about a possible lockout reached
a tipping point this past offseason when the two time
defending World Series champion LA Dodgers signed Kyle Tucker, and

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you just had a sense that within the sport like
it galvanized owners in ways that historically they haven't been
galvanized before. All Right, there's the Dodgers. This is why
this isn't working. There's anger at the Dodgers. There's frustration
with the Dodgers. I think you also have a lot
of owners who like these labor negotiations. The public sentiments

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also often a big part of this conversation. I think
both sides want the public on their side. I think
anything that makes fans feel more helpless because the Dodgers
got even better the owner's view is a good thing
because they want fans to take up their costs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yes, So, I think in a weird way, I wonder
why the Brewers didn't try harder to get Trek Scoogle.
I wonder why the Braves didn't try harder. I wonder
why the Phillies didn't try harder the Cubs other contending teams.
That's weird to me because I think there is a
I think there is a thinking among owners that it's like,
you know what, if Scooble goes to the Dodgers and

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they win a third World Series, You're gonna have more
fans who throw their hands up and go, my team
can't compete, right, And if that's the case, they're going
to have more fans who are on the side of
the owners and what they want, which is obviously a cap.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
And if my team cannot compete, I'll come Tampa and Milwaukee.
Milwaukee is a better record than the Dodgers, and those
two small market teams have a better record than the Yankees.
The Yankees have said, Steinbrenner, how we can't compete. The
Yankees have said, we don't have the money, We're not competing.
So when you make the argument you can buy a
World Series, well, Milwaukee's not one. One what since eighty

(01:10:47):
two Tampas they've never won never one one, and those
are the teams are the best record in baseball. So
you can compete, but you can't win a World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah, I think that's whole. A lot of fans feel
like my take when it comes to the Reds. As
you hear people say, well, we can't compete with the Dodgers,
and I go, fine, compete with the Brewers, which that
are never able to do either head to header. In
the standings, Milwaukee said to make the postseason for the
eighth time in nine years. The Reds haven't finished above
third place since twenty twelve. But yeah, I think you
have Like I am philosophically opposed to a cap because

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I don't like anything that restricts what anybody can make.
That said, the sport has a problem, and the problem
is you have a lot of fans who love the game,
grew up with it, want to watch more of it,
want to go to more games, but feel like third
team doesn't have a legitimate chance to win big. Yes,
we can maybe have a team that sneaks into the postseason.

(01:11:40):
We might even have a team that is a postseason mainstay,
but they have no chance of really winning big and
really winning big repeatedly over a sustained amount of time.
And so as long as you have that problem, baseball's
got a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Nineteen seventy seven, you might recall mm that Vina Blue
the trade was turned down by Bowie kun because the
Reds were so good in nineteen seventy seven that to
bring a left handed starter from the Oakland A's would
have been terrible. Why doesn't Manford actually say, you know,
at this point, I'm not in the best interest of baseball,

(01:12:15):
Scooba Tucker, you can't go to the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Well, I think the office of Commissioner of Baseball has
changed since Bowie Kuhn had it. Boey Kuhn was a clown.
Should not be in the Hall of Fame. It's ridiculous
that he is. He is one of the most ineffective
leaders in the history of pro sports. And that's saying
something because most baseball commissioners have been boobs. But back then,
the commissioner had a lot more independent authority, and that

(01:12:38):
changed with Bud Selig when they staged decup against Fay Vincent.
Where now, I mean Bud Seeligg didn't just work for
the owners. He was one and so you know, he
was in power for whatever it was, a couple of decades.
And then they hire Rob Manfred, Baseball's labor lawyer. He
works for the owners, and so the nature of the
office of commissioner has just changed. Or now the commissioner

(01:13:01):
is basically an employee of the owners. Going back to
nineteen twenty when we first had a Major League commissioner
for the first seventy five eighty years of the job,
that person was a lot more independent. And could you know,
hand down punishments against owners. I'll off a vincent against
George Steinbrenner, I'll low some of the punishments against Marg Shott.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
That's the answer all right now. Secondly, two or three
other issues Philosophically, Dela Cruz spectacular playing quite well right now.
Not as good as just call sal He's playing pretty good. Yeah,
everyone says he turned down a ten year or twelve year,
two hundred and fifty three hundred million dollar contract. He's
got the worst agent in the history of baseball. Marty
loves him, and as a consequence, we're gonna watch him

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play another two months. The next year, there's no season.
Come twenty eight, it's going to be all in on
Dela Cruz and at the end of that year he's gone. Somehow,
he's got no value. Now I look at Fernando Tatis.
I love that name. I love saying Tatis Junior. And
he filed federal lawsuits against this group called BLA, which

(01:14:06):
is the Big League advantage. He's given ten percent of
all of his money, which turned out to be a
huge number to BLA, and Dela Cruz is the same position.
This is not well known I think among fandom, but
about ten percent or so of Dela Cruz's future earnings
they're not going to be his. I watched someone rich
and famous over the weekend. Say you sign a one

(01:14:27):
hundred million dollar contract. Let's say, for easy figure one
hundred million. Half of that money's going immediately in income
taxes thirty nine point six, so that's fifty down to
fifty million, and then you give what ten percent to
the BLA. That is now you do it one hundred million.
Now you're down to forty million, and then you have
other respond agents five percent. Now you're down to thirty

(01:14:47):
five million. And then I'll talk and then that's over
a ten year period three point five million. And then
you have to live your life and pay off baby
mamas and buy homes and jewelry and cars. So Dela
Cruz now is between the rock and a hard place.
His agent tells him he'll be the first billion dollar player.
And if you go to a big market, the taxes
are confiscatory. Is there any hope you have that Della

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Cruz will remain a Red for the next five to
ten years. You want to think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
If that was ever gonna happen, they would have done
that three years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
This is to me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
I made the argument why they should sign Sala Stuart
now and do basically what they do with Chase Perns.
If you ever want to have a chance with your
own guys to keep them beyond those years of team control,
which right now are six, you've got to pay him early.
Like ask yourself about sal Stewart. Who are the guys
who in three years are likely to be making the

(01:15:40):
most amount of money? Sala Stewart's at the top of
that list. Well, why don't we control it now, and
why don't we try to get out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Of the agent money.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Apparently there's not been much of a conversation I've heard
folks suggests the Reds financially are just not in a
position to be able to do that, especially after they
did it with Chase Perns. Let's make it about money,
Let's also make it about winning. If you're Elie Dela
cur do you want to play in the World Series? Yes,
I think you have a chance here. Do you want
me to honestly answer that question? No? If you're Elie

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Dela Cruz, do you want to take advantage of every
endorsement opportunity nationally or globally that comes your way?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yes' is that gonna happen here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Let's look at recent and even not so recent Red's history.
How many times has a player gotten to the end
of those six years of team control and then re
sign with the Reds. How many times have they kept
their own free agents? Name one for him this century?
Name one for him. He can't, So like the closer

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we get to the end of his deal, which is
the end of the twenty twenty nine season. There's two things. One,
you better win while you have him. Two there's three things. Actually, Two,
there's a very good chance they trade him before he walks,
because there's a track record of that. And three, if
you're Elie Dela Cruz and you continue to ascend, aren't
you dreaming about the open market?

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Yeah? And what am I work?

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
And the billion and the potential of maybe being Baseball's
first billion dollar player. Look, you got to make the distinction.
This offseason, it was stated and reported that the Reds
offered Elliot chance to be the highest paid player in
franchise history.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
That sounds awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Highest paid player in Reds franchise history is not the
same as highest paid player in Major League history. And
while Ellie is not the best player in baseball, it's
about the market. And the market would dictate that a
player of his talent and his age when he's up
to be a free agent could command as much as
a billion dollars in terms of the overall value of
the contract. He ain't getting that here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Lastly, Caitlyn Clark and the WNBA is enveloped in social issues.
They should avoid them, like the play yes, and they
don't they embrace it. Now it appears to be the
WNBA is saying that by don't you go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I don't know that Caitlyn Clark embraces all the fire storm.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Around She doesn't She had an answer yes today well,
we'll talk about it. I think she wants to play basketball,
which is a novel idea, but nonetheless, my distant cousin,
Sophie Cunningham is embroiled in it by saying, you know,
boys should play with boys and girls girls. I guess
the WNBA is now saying that in spring training or
winter camp for next year, we're going to invite biological

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men who identify as women and let them play. Do
they understand how stupid that is?

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Well, I think they have to be prepared for the pushback.
It's been widely reported that seventy nine percent of American
support boys playing boy sports, men playing men's sports, girls
playing girl sports, women.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Playing women's sports.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Makes sense to me, and so if they choose to
go down this road, then they have to prepare for
what is going to be pretty sizeable pushback from a
large majority of the American population. All what that only
a tiny fraction of which is actually watching the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
You have a daughter you love greatly. Imagine she becomes
better athletes. Shes goold athlete, and she's in a locker
room in high school, maybe at Deer Park High School.
Here comes three high school boys. Father is going to say,
get the hell out of that locker room. And if
she's really good to get to the WNBA or maybe LPGA,
you're going to say, women, women, men men, separate but

(01:19:10):
equal Title nine. WNBA can't win this argument, No, can't.
And again, like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Look at and it's not hard to find how most
Americans feel about this split among various gender groups, political groups,
socioeconomic groups. Like the overwhelming majority of people in this
country feel the way you do, and frankly feel the
way I do when it comes to men playing with men,
women playing with women.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Makes sense to me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
If the ends, if the WNBS stupid wants to go
down a road that the majority of Americans don't support,
I would tell them to be prepared for be prepared
for whatever fall out comes its way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Any other questions for Mimo not at the moment. No,
let's continue with more when the watch continues three hours
in thirty four minutes on news radio seven h WLW.
So that's all I have to say, Hello, Bryant, I'm

(01:20:11):
broadcasting all right segment quickly. There's nothing new on the
reds at two thirty nine Eastern time? Is that correct? Correct?
Joining you and I now is Bob Morano is the
tournament director and Pete Holderman charge of media relations, and gentlemen,
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Bob give us an overview later this week. I think

(01:20:33):
the tournament kind of starts. What are going to be coming,
some of the stars unexpectedly that may come and some
of the stars that may not. Bob Moran give us
a full report.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
All the good news you guys are hearing it from
me that we just gave Serena Williams and Minus Williams
the doubles wild card as of noon today. Great as
a big announcement for us. And we just looked recently
announced Novek Djokovic coming for the first time since twenty
twenty three, and then beyond that, it's every top player
on the in the universe, to be honest, So we're

(01:21:04):
we're really excited. What's coming?

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
What what about Carlos Hakatraz? Is Alcatraz coming or not?
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
Well, he's gonna let us know this week. He you know,
he posted on his social that his intention was the
return for Cincinnati. But we're still waiting to hear final verification.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
We're hopeful there What are some of the new things happening?
Rocket Boy wants to know if he comes out to
the tournament. I'm sure he will in a week or two.
What are some of the new amenites in Mason.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Well for us, we opened our indoor courts this year
for the fans.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
So it's a.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Huge indoor, fully air conditioned, fully what I would say
is fans friendly area where they can watch the tenants
on the video board, listen to live music, and get
out of the heat if it gets too hot for folks.
But we're really excited about what our indoor court is
called the Kroger Fan Zone. Fantastic this year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
And what about Coco Golf? What about song on the
on the lady side, give me a full report some
of the stars coming on the lady side.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
Yeah, we're we have full support on the lady's side.
Cocoa Gov's coming Arenas out of the lank Egas fight.
Jess Pagoula, the young lady just won in in Washington,
d C. Which we're all, I would say, very very
excited about. So now her name is Alexander alex Iala.

(01:22:28):
She just won her first five hundreds. She's from the
Philippines an up and coming star, so Naomi Osaka, you
name it, we pretty much have it. On the women's side,
every top twenty five player is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Confirmed to come. And Bob Marie, what about tickets available,
I know sometimes are very difficult. The best times to
go is in the afternoon, I think, rather than the evenings.
But our tickets available for people like Rocky Boyman.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
Rocky, yeah, absolutely, he can have tickets any time. So
we're actually going back. Last year we were on under
you know, getting the whole construction project finished. This year
we're reintroducing grounds passes for the first time in a
couple of years. So that's the place where someone can
just make a decision last minute, come on out and
the grounds passes get them on the site and they

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can go to all the matches on our outer court.
So opportunities for everyone without question.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
And as far as completion of construction is an eighty
percent done, ninety percent what percent Bob Miran have been
have been completed?

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
We were one hundred percent at the beginning of last year,
so we're at the end of last year, so we're
we're good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
All right and give the American people listening around the Midwest,
give them a website to which we can direct those
Americans to get. As I said, the best time to go,
in my opinion is during the afternoon. But nonetheless, what
is the website if.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Any Cincinnati Open dot com had every bit of information
our fans and Americans from across the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
And you can go there this I open dot com.
It starts at the end of this week, ghost until
what two weeks from yesterday. It's gonna keep going, going
and going. And thanks for coming to Cincinnati and give
my best of Pete Holderman and Bob Moran. You're a
great American And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Bob.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
You gotta appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
God bless America. All right now, Rocky, will you be
there for the tennis as many suggested you will go.
I'm going to try to go a lot of football,
a lot of football. That would be the best time
it goes. Have to coach and all yes, what is
your when does your world get crazy? End of this month?

Speaker 6 (01:24:26):
August twenty ninth of the FCS kickoff on live on
ESPN seven pm on August twenty ninth, And where were
you be if anywhere making Georgia, who's playing?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
If anyone? Mercer and somebody somebody else. Yeah, now let's
talk about baseball and football, et cetera. Yeah, fire away.
The Reds are in a good position or a bad
position right now, there's no trades for whoever? What are
we going to do? If anything? What about Tyler Stevenson.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Well, it's funny like he had that that video where
he kind of got emotional, right, and you saw that,
and now like everyone wants to keep him. If I
want to want everyone, I guess get rid of him.
Now they're like, oh, he seems like a great guy.
He's a good player.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
It's so hard because you know, you got to give
something to get something, and the things we have to
give are good but not phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Right, So the Red Sox segment was hot on that.
Do you think that's gonna happen? No, seg no, don't
they have to wait to see what happens? How to
collect that? The CBA out of baseball should be the news,
But the CBA is the news that's driving everything. And
Scooble's signing at.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
The look and I know how hard it is to
like If you're talking about hanging in there through a workstoppage,
that's a lot. It's not just the baseball player. Think
of all the jobs and the people that have that
make their living off of Major League Baseball being played.
I get that, But in another sense, I wish they
would just hang in there, hang in there and get
it to a situation where there was a salary cap,

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right like like NFL football, where every team had a chance.
That's what I would wiss. I mean short term pain
from everyone has.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Everyone has it except Bajor League Baseball. In fact, the NBA,
I understand, Oklahoma City's got to trade a bunch of
their better players, goes to the apron two of the
salary cap. Same thing with Denver they got to get
rid of one or two of their best players, goes
to the salary cap of baseball. Talk to Bryce Harper
about a salary cap.

Speaker 6 (01:26:22):
I mean, think of what college football has done over
the years. They've gone from the BCS to a four
team playoff now a twelve team playoff. Why because they
found it advantageous in driving more revenue across the country
to have more teams that have a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Right now, there's not a ton of teams.

Speaker 6 (01:26:39):
In Major League Baseball that have an actual shot to
go to the World Series. College football, there's twelve team
you know, actually more like fifteen or sixteen teams that
are in the mix in December that possibly could get in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
And in basketball you can have a team from Oklahoma
City win it all right. You can have nobody in
a small market win NFL. You know, Steelers, Bengals, Kansas City.
That was a small kind of small deal for a while.
In hockey, it's the Carolina wins it one. But in
baseball it's got to be the Yankees for the Dodgers,
and Milwaukee's been there eight in the last nine years.

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They have won the World Series since nineteen eighty.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
I think the powers that be and then people will
hang in there and say no, no, no, no no,
unless we get.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
A salary cap. Do you think that will happen? I
think the players will, Bryce Harper, I think, so seg
What do you say if they're gonna have I just
think Willie there, they have, you know, entrenched themselves into
no no cap, and it's gonna be interesting to see
if you know who's sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue gets involved well,

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what point is it? Shouldn't this sport be about what
the what the fans want? No, that's what the NFL does.

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
A college football does is like, let's serve the fans,
let's get more fan bases in gage, let's make them
feel like they.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Have a chance, and actually maybe they do have a chance. No, no, no, no,
that's ridiculous, and it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
But it's talking to each But nothing is easy. Nothing
like that is ever gonna come easy. It can take someone.
It's gonna take a lot of flaming arrows and a
lot of heat and a lot of all this that
hang in there, hanging in there, and say, you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Know what, fine, we'll do it. It could be hard times,
daddy time. How many times have we gone through sitting
here Marty and Joe's era, three or four times? Massive
ugly strikes, right, and nothing changed on the weekends. Marty
and Joe went one week to what Indianapolis games before
they went to you know, and then they went to
your point.

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
They've had holdouts and work stoppages and then nothing actually happened.
So they either need to sign something now and say
let's keep continued business normal or be prepared to go
all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Please. Does that make any sense? Not at all. But
let's wait till July or August the next year to
start baseball disaster, absolute disaster if they get rid of
most of the season because you either say, look, we're
not going to win this thing, let's stop it, or
mainly the players also won a basement as well as
the ceiling. The Reds spend about one hundred and twenty
five million, which is more than Tampa and more than Milwaukee,

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and so, you.

Speaker 6 (01:29:03):
Know, so there's more more players that are making near
the basement than the ceiling at So okay, give incentivize
them to say, hey, let's raise that a little bit,
and let's get the salary cap, you know, get strength
in numbers, offer some things that make your side of
the deal look better.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Right, makes any sense? None? Right Now, it's seven point
fifty and the players want one point five million, and
the owners, the owners how to say, Okay, let's not
go through this anymore. We will pay one point five
million for a new player minimum of five hundred thousand
dollars a year with one year of service. So at
the end of four or five years, that player, if

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we kept five or six years with all the other
arbitration is going to be at the top, and most
players should say, okay, I'll take that. Most Reds players
right now make a lot less than one point five million,
make it one point five million. Those owner those players
would say, we want we don't want to strike, we
want the money. You got to have a business that
serves the fan. They'll get more, get more. Fan base

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is engaged. And lastly, Dela Cruz, as segment knows, has
agreed to pay this one group I wrote down their
name somewhere. Ten percent is called the big league advantage.
So whatever he makes ten percent off the top goes
to big league advantage. And Fernanda's Tatis lost his his lawsuit.
So that means, let's make it one hundred million dollars. Easy.

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For one hundred million dollars, half of that is income tax,
which is you know, take ten, they take ten off
the top, they take ten off ten. Yeah, that's forty
and now, and on top of that, your agent's fees,
which are Scott borass Is five percent off the top.
That's thirty five million for ten ten years, one hundred
million dollar contract. Thirty five and then you start buying

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things and paying off baby mamas. I mean over ten years,
I'm thinking, okay, three point five it's you see it? Yeah,
and I'm thinking, okay, that's what That's how the players think.
They're not thinking about the gross, thinking about the net
and seg give me a full report. Please, will he
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and former Red Bret Suitor traded from the Angels to
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Bryant carted off the field today with a left leg injury.

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
Cam should go longer. Can I say that camp should
go long? You can keep, okay, the amount of preseason games,
but you got to get these players' bodies acclimated, and
then their CBA will want less practice, less hitting.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Okay, I get it, but now you're getting all the injuries.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
I would agree with all this stuff if the injury
rates went down, but they have it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
They have either stayed the same or gone up.

Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
So we're practicing less, conditioner, bodies less, and guys are
going down more.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Aks Schamar Stewart, As you said, Willie, Cincinnati opened issuing
wildcards today to Serena and Venus Williams, along with Sloan
Stevens and the qualifying tarney actually starts this Saturday. About that?
What about Johnny Wolf He's in there. Let's see soccer
FC Cincinnati z Evander. It's been named to the MLS
Team of the Match Day three assists the game winning

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goal Saturday versus San Jose. When will MESSI play back
in the MLS he played the other night? I think
is he any good? Yeah, he looks pretty good. It
looks upset. I want didn't win it? He would have
been the goat of the goats of all time. Put
all the goats together, put Nicholas and put Michael Jordan,

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put Babe Ruth, put them all there, and Tom Brady.
The go to the goats would have been Lionel Messy.
Do you agree they go to the goat? Yeah, if
they went on the second. Now, he's just he's a goat,
that's all. He is a long with many other I
think he's doing okay. Though he's okay. I think so too.
He's a goat. He's a goat. Yeah, all right, like you,
what's on the big show here?

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Saying you the news about Notre Dame? What about big news?
That's right, rock, Sorry, we said that. You got this
all done. Notre Dame in Southern cal has agreed to
a four year contract to resume their rivalry beginning in
twenty thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
Notre Dame in usc should play football. It's one of
the greatest rivals. It was set up back in the
New Rockey days. They would travel by train like two
weeks across the country and get off and the train
would stop. They'd get off. They practice a little bit.
Get back on the great rivalry. Now the best in
sports is now renewed. Well did you see the other
part of it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Though?

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
By taking on USC, they then dropped their home and
home that was scheduled with Indiana. Had they had a
home and home with Indiana in thirty and thirty one.
They didn't want to play Indiana anymore, didn't know. I
don't want to play them. We never played Southern cal
But so now Indiana no longer has a power for
opponent that's of any merit.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
So what about what about you see get the bear Cats?
I don't know what you're talking about. Never mind, you
see no names. New facility, by the way I saw,
I saw it one hundred million dollars. It's absolutely rocky
boy centers at I gave nothing, not one well a
little rock play it notre dame to be in that.
God willing, so God willing. Oh it's pretty good. Is

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it open now or almost? That's open now?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
I was.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
I was just up there in April and it wasn't
quite open. The indoor facility, like the indoor field was open.
Incredible with the new weight room and all the dining
areas and all the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Stuff they have is is now open. It's incredible. Well,
what else you got on the big show today, Rock,
you got big news doctor Bocabala and talking about Trump
and I ran the back and forth. I'm upset. Say on,
if you got the guts, say on, hear what you say?

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
Off time the blank or get off the pot. We're
either gonna bomb or or not all this. We're gonna
bomb you if you don't stop. Seven times he said
that seven times. Scott's come's coming. Here's you know what
I would do? And I guess this is easy for
me to say. I'm sure I'll take flak for this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
I would.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
I would fly a Giant C one thirty over, I ran,
I drop off about a million flyers on the ground
and say, listen, you have about seventy two hours to
get the hell out of Dodge because everything is going
to be turned to dust. That's our only that's our
only move right now, unless you want to send in
ground troops.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
No one wants that. No, you got to bomb them
into oblivion. Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb, I ran, I
don't know what else is Eddie in today that the
first team is in. That's good, Rock, thank you, thank you.
Last thing. We have a minute remaining. The w NBA
says biological men should be able to play in the

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w n B A who identify as a woman. You
know what I say, bring them all in. Well, hey,
I got a plan for Are you ready write this down?
Write this down? Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
Okay, call Bob coleheb Okay, call uh Dick Farmer, Okay,
call him Linda Weiler Linder. Get all of them and
and found an NBA team. I don't know what it costs,
but but buy and start an NBA team and put
men that identify as females on that thing and go

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win the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
And let's let's put the theory in the play. Want
men to play what the women put your mouth is
women's it's the women right, Well, n b A, I
think it is. I'm much I think boys should play
with bora girl. Do this argument. It's just Caitlin Clark

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wouldn't have a chance against some Division three male player.
She couldn't get shots off. But the NBA says, bring
him in. W n B A, we want let's let's
do it. Seg will you do it? No, I'm not
playing nor give me out pickleball and playing give me
out the stution party. Willie this day we say Happy
birthday to Frintz four years old. Today the party is

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on at the Zoo. We leave you with the immortal
words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
We will bring Championship Baseball to Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
A neglected on seven hundred W l W