9-1-26 Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, Billy Cunningham, The Great American. Welcome to Tuesday afternoon
in the Tri-State. Reds baseball kicks off about 540 tonight.
Last night's game was awful. They play well in Chicago,
then play horrible at home once again. See what happens
tonight starting about 540. Joining you now is Vivek Ramaswamy,
running for the governorship of the state of Ohio in
the Republican Party. Vivek Ramaswamy, a Cincinnatian, Welcome again to

(00:29):
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Vivek, my
experts tell me, like Tony Bender, my executive producer, having
done a lot of research on this subject, that we've
never had a race for governor, where the Republican and
Democratic candidates both have never been in public office before,
at least elected public office. And so since there's not
a record upon which somebody can run, assuming you win

(00:51):
the governorship, which is going to be close. I know
many think it's going to be easy, but it's not
going to be easy. The polling indicates it's pretty close.
In fact, I think Kalshi, whatever Kalshi is, has you
as a betting loser by like 54 to 46 against Dr.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Amy Fauci.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
And let's face it, almost destroyed the state of Ohio single-handedly.
What qualifications do you bring to the job that maybe Dr.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Amy Fauci does not?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Look, I talked about this last night when I was
back in my hometown of Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Really, we were at Jim and Jack's near the river and.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Exactly got one question from the audience exactly to this effect.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
And here's what I told him.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I have actually signed the front of a paycheck rather
than the back of one. I'm a business owner, an entrepreneur,
somebody who's actually created value.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I've developed a company that has.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Developed five, actually, as of two weeks ago, six FDA-approved medicines,
one of which is a life-saving therapy in patients. That's
one of three different multibillion-dollar businesses I've built. I understand
how to bring high-paying jobs back to Ohio. I understand
how to bring down the tax burden in Ohio, including
and especially the property tax burden immediately. And the person

(02:05):
I'm running against really has no executive experience whatsoever. Other
than for a short stint serving as Ohio's health director
during which he shut down the economy and then quit
on the job after being.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Forced to reopen it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
And so the idea that that person could be responsible
for the seventh largest economy and 12 million people in
the state. is, I think, a frightening notion, but we're
not going to let that happen. We're going to win
this thing. We're going to win it solidly, and we're
going to lead Ohio to be the state that Texas
and Florida look up to, Billy, rather than the.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Other way around.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I had on the governor, Mike DeWine, a few weeks ago,
and he came on to talk about the fact that
Ohio is now the number one state in America to
open up a business. And so when we're already at
the top, as far as a new job creation i
know the democrats hate to hear this but ohio's doing
a great job right now when it comes to job
creation a new businesses opening up how can you be

(03:02):
better than the best.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well look great if you were a great state no
doubt about it and i think that we have a
lot to celebrate but great is not good enough i
want us to be greater than we've ever been we
led the first industrial revolution willie cincinnati was the queen
city the machine tools hub the consumer products capital of
the world Toledo was the glass capital. Akron, the rubber capital.
Youngstown to Cleveland, the steel production capital of.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
The Western Hemisphere. That's what I'm shooting for, right?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Neil Armstrong and John Glenn and the Wright brothers and
Thomas Edison. That is who we were as a state.
So we're a great state already, right? We're not Minnesota. Okay,
we're not New York or California here. We're doing great,
but great is not good enough. We have always aspired
to greater. That is who we are. And a few
things I want to do, Willie, just to sort of

(03:49):
put a fine point on this, to take this to
the next level, is I want to bring down that
property tax burden. Okay, so as great as we're doing
as a state, the truth is there are some things
we still need to fix. The property tax burden is
insanely high in this state. I've laid out a pragmatic,
very practical plan to bring that down back to where
it was effectively to pre-pandemic levels before the end of

(04:11):
the pandemic. That's the biggest property tax cut that any
state will have delivered in this country.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I want to bring down electric bills, right? Everybody's listening
to this.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Take out one of your electric bills and log in
online to AEP or.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Wherever it was. Log in five years ago.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
See what it was.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Now look at what it was last month.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I want to take it back to where it was
half a decade ago, and I have a clear plan
to do it by producing more energy in this state,
which is also something where we can improve, Willie. So
just because we're doing great, which we are, doesn't mean
that there aren't improvements that we need to make. And
I think coming into this as a businessman, as an outsider,
I can bring that fresh perspective in a way that

(04:50):
a failed bureaucrat who quit on the job is not
going to be able to really succeed in the way
that Ohio deserves.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
All right, Vivek, let's get into these data centers.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And I do these topics regularly with the so-called experts
around the country. And even Governor Abbott in Texas has
seen the light. Number one, that the data centers have
got to be away from residential areas so there's not
a hum going on constantly. Number two, it must be
at a minimum energy efficient. negative, and hopefully energy positive.

(05:19):
That means they have to produce all your own electricity
on the data center site, whether it's a modular nuke
or a gas turbine. And number three, it's got to
produce thousands of jobs. So where do you stand now?
The Democratic Party is using this as a club against
John Husted. And 70% of the American people believe that
data centers are bad. When I look at my Duke
energy bill, hell, last month I paid $ 810. And I

(05:43):
haven't looked back five years, but it surely wasn't $ 810.
And so the Democratic Party policies cause the energy bills
to go up. But they're pinning this on the Republicans.
When you're trying to have more energy, they want windmills
and solar panels. Republicans want fracking and want clean coal
and natural gas. So explain to the American people your

(06:04):
policies when it comes to data centers, if any.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
We've got the clearest policy. I've laid it out.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
My opponent has offered literally nothing. No legislative commitment, no
executive order description. By contrast, I'll tell you what I've
laid out. I've laid out commitments to Ohioans that say
that If a data center does not produce meaningful, tangible,
measurable benefits, big benefits to the community, it's not going
to get built in the state of Ohio, period. Full stop,

(06:33):
that's it. And I've laid out an executive order and
a legislation to ensure that. Let me be specific about
what those benefits need to be. Bare minimum conditions to
build here. On electric bills, I'd go a little further
than you laid out. I think that electricity in the
immediate zone, these data centers need to produce more energy
as a buffer.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
They're doing that.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
They're going to want to do that anyway.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That has to go to the local community for free
electricity in the immediate zone and lower electric bills across
the state.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's number one.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Number two is they've got to pay their property taxes, right?
So then you expand the property tax base and send
that revenue directly as a rebate to homeowners. That's number
two is lower property taxes for you. Number three is
the water's got to go in and come out exactly
as clean as when it went in. And then I
think we need to process transparency with respect to the NDAs.

(07:22):
And there are some other simple solutions here. Build them
on abandoned industrial sites away from residential communities instead of
on virgin uninterrupted farmland.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
That's common sense.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Do it in a way that if you're going to
have it insulate the sound, vegetative insulation, build trees around it.
That prevents the unsightliness problem. It actually can take an
abandoned industrial site and make it look good rather than
bad and insulate the sound. These are all bare minimum standards.
And my view, Will, is if those aren't met, they're
not going to get built, period. And this goes back

(07:56):
to the earlier point about what's different between me and
my opponent. She, with all due respect, does not have
a clue about the substance of any of these issues.
which is why she has not taken a single voter question,
I kid you not, in 18 months. What I was
doing at Jim and Jack's in Cincinnati last night, we're
doing that several nights a week.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm on my way to three events today. And I
think a.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Governor deserves to be able to take hard questions and
answer to the people. And also, you need somebody who's
smart enough and capable enough and tough enough to negotiate
with these companies to say, here's the deal that we're.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Going to strike for Ohioans.

Speaker 9 (08:31):
And you know what?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Other parties respect that, actually.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
If you have a tough negotiator for the state, but
you have.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Someone like Amy Acton, special interests are going to be
running straight over her and the voters are going to
get no answers from her.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
We're not going to let that happen.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
On my watch, we're going to be tough fighters for
Ohioans and in a way that creates economic growth that
lifts up communities rather than harms them.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Do you think Dr. Amy Fauci is still drinking and
using drugs? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Look, I'm not going to go there, Willie, but I
do encourage people to look at the facts, okay, because
I want to focus on my policy agenda and how
to save the state. But I will say, imagine if
a Republican were the person for whom, right, that you're
talking about. I mean, this is some seriously concerning stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
And for anybody who has problems in their lives.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And people go through different, I pray for them and
I pray for their recovery and for their families. I
absolutely do. Whoever they are across the state, I want
to fight for them and I want to help them.
But there's a difference between seeking help yourself versus putting
yourself in a position to lead 12 million people of
this state who need help of their own. And there,
I think we need a stable, successful, common sense leader

(09:41):
at the top. And my family and I, we're in
this together. I believe in I believe in common sense.
I believe in good judgment. And so I'm not going
to go to some of those other places, but people
should do their own reading. And what I think is
the double standard of the media is, especially the local
media outlets.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Is hypocritical. When when there's a Republican in a different race.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Somewhere else, they will pick it apart for far less than,
you know, the police records and everything else that are
on display for people to view on their own, even
though the media makes it hard.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Look at those police reports and judge for yourself. But
I'm not going to go there.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Let's not go there.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
But I'm thinking of Congressman Max Miller, who's had some
DV problems, maybe, and have not been arrested. Congressman Northern
Ohio and the media goes around every Republican. You got
to talk to him. He's got to get out of
the race. He can't run again. Please don't do it.
Then you got Dr.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Amy Fauci.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Who has police reports, multiple, and let's face it, alcoholism
is all over my family.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I get it. I pray for her.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
In fact, tonight, before I go to sleep tonight, I'm
going to say a prayer for the recovery of Dr.
Amy Acton so she can live her best life without drugs,
without alcoholism, without domestic violence. I'm going to wish her well.
Now let's move on to another public issue, is public education.
There's a proposal in Columbus in which failing public schools,

(11:02):
you went to Princeton grade school, And I think you
tried to get to Deer Park High School, couldn't make it.
But then you went to St. X, unfortunately, and became
the valedictorian, which is unfortunate. Nonetheless, St. X, you had
to go there. And the rest is history. Now, public
education in urban areas is awful.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
The schools are completely dysfunctional.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
When I had on the Speaker of the House, and
I have on certain state reps, there was a proposal
in Columbus to pass a law that would allow the
state of Ohio to seize failing public schools in Cincinnati,
of which there are many. in which the kids are
functionally illiterate, in which kids graduate with a piece of
paper that says they have a diploma, but they can't
read it. And I have black teachers and white teachers

(11:44):
tell me that about half the schools in Cincinnati are
nothing but daycare centers.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Teachers are being beaten.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
The superintendent, I'm sorry, the president of the labor union
in Cincinnati, CPS, say teachers are assaulted in Cincinnati every
day by the students. I would suspect that didn't happen
in San X High School.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
So no, it didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And this is where I'm both pro student and pro
teacher at the same time, Billy is.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
For teachers, they can't expect you to be magicians.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
If these kids are not getting discipline at home, they
need to at least be empowered to bring discipline to
the classroom and to school.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
And right now, our teachers' hands are tied. That's wrong.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And I want to support our teachers in our schools
to bring standards of every kind to the classroom, including
disciplinary standards. And I also want to, as much as
I am a strong proponent for parental rights, I am
also a proponent for parental responsibility and accountability, really. And
we don't talk about that enough, and we should, including
in the Republican Party, where kids who are not showing

(12:47):
up at school or showing up at school and wildly
deviant or violent in their behavior, there have to be
consequences and real stakes and accountability for the parent. And
then you combine that with actually improving our schools. I
want to say one thing about what did hurt the
public schools.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
And I want people to.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Hear this loud and clear from me. I'm a product
of public education in Cincinnati, Ohio. And I respect many
of those public school teachers that I had. I want
every kid in those public schools to be able to
have the same opportunities that I did. But there has
been nothing more devastating for the public school students of Cincinnati,
Ohio and all of Ohio than the COVID school closures

(13:28):
that my opponent drove in this state. Ohio became the
first state in the country to shut down public schools
while private schools like St. X managed to remain open.
That is a travesty. That is what created true educational inequality.
You want to walk around the streets of Cincinnati where
the kids switch buses but now don't switch buses and
hang out in vagrancy and commit crimes, loitering on the

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street as large, juvenile, as grown juvenile students?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's wrong, and it's because of the school closures.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
That is on the feet of none other than Amy Acton,
the woman I'm running against, who now preaches about inequality—
And yet created the very inequality that she complains about.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So are you saying yes to the state and CPS?
Forty six percent are chronically absent. Seventy one percent of
black boys are chronically absent. And the majority of graduates
in the public school system are illiterate. And so in
that situation, should the state seize control of Taft High
School or Western Hills High School or Aiken because it

(14:31):
is so bad? Can you imagine the Democratic Party going
nuts over the fact, let us destroy our own students.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You don't do it. We'll destroy them.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
I mean, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Do you support yay or nay seizing control of public schools?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I support the state bringing hard standards to those schools
and accountability to the bureaucracy that is failing them. And Billy,
we will use one mechanism or another, but which starts
with setting statewide standards. And if you don't meet them,
then there have to be real consequences and accountability. And
the issue is the bureaucracy and really people like Amy

(15:06):
Acton who fail. You say there's 71% absenteeism. Well, what
if you forced them to be absent for two years, right?
Then they don't come back. Whose fault is that really?
I think it is the fault of the government bureaucrats
who caused it. But I'm not here to complain about
the past. I'm here to change the future for the better. William,
so I'm looking to the future. My goal is not

(15:27):
to litigate and point fingers. I'm running against an opponent,
and I'm drawing a contrast because people have to make
a clear choice in this election. But in the end,
it's going to be our vision that lifts this state up. Okay,
that's not right versus left. That is about up versus down.
And we're choosing up for our students from the inner
city of Cincinnati to our suburbs, to our rural communities.

(15:49):
We're going up for those kids in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
All right, Vivek, we've got to run, but maybe join
me tonight in saying a prayer for the recovery of Dr.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
May she give up the alcohol and the drugs and
the domestic violence, and may she live a good and
productive life, just not in the governor's position. And maybe
if you get elected governor, you can have more programs
for certain individuals that need help with alcoholism. And I
wish her nothing but the best, but not in the
office of the governorship, but in her private life. Hope
she can get it all together. So I hope you

(16:18):
join me in saying that hopefully she'll recover. That's all
we can say.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
And in the best of ways, with sincerity for all
the people in the state, you know, Willie, there's people
who need help.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
We're going to fight for them.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's my job, and that's why I'm in this.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
All right.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Vivek Ramaswamy will do it again, and God bless you,
and God bless America.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Thank you, Vivek.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
All right, let's continue with more, and I'm serious about this.
Alcoholism is all over American families and drug use, and
we all have difficulties of one type or another, and Dr.
Amy Fauci needs to confront her own demons before she
seeks public office. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW.
All right, Dave Keaton, hit the music, another... Journey into

(17:00):
broadcast supernity begins today. Reds baseball kicks off about 5.40 tonight.
The Padres, the religious zealots, are back in town. The
Reds look awful last night, inept, shall we say, having
played greatly, having played well in Chicago. They come back
home against the Padres. We'll see what happens tonight and
then tomorrow, business special. Then over the weekend, day off Thursday,

(17:22):
then the Brew crew is in town Friday, Saturday, and Sunday,
and we'll see what happens with that. And Della Cruz
seemingly is not going to be in the lineup tonight
on the field, likely to hit those at DH. We'll
see what happens with the Reds baseball. The allegations of
alcohol use and prescriptive drug abuse is present, prevalent, ubiquitous

(17:45):
in our society.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
In my family, likely in your family, it's colored many events, etc.
And as alcohol is often the... the ubiquiter. It is
the grease. It is the oil. It is the gas
that charges many community events and other things in that character.
And the abuse of alcohol is a serious problem. And
as is illegal drug use, whether it's prescriptive drugs or otherwise.

(18:14):
When it comes to the ads being run against Amy Acton,
educating you about what's happened in her past, largely the
media will completely ignore it. However, if it's a male,
like a Max Miller, U.S. congressman from northern Ohio, who
may have had DV incidents and maybe some drinking, not

(18:36):
resulting in police calls or 911 calls, etc., it becomes,
at that point, a large issue. And in Amy Acton's case,
because her judgment is critical when you become the governor,
if she becomes the governor, she's the most uniquely unqualified
person ever to run for the governorship.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Of the state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And I'm not sure there's ever been a case where
two candidates, Republican and Democrat, neither one have ever held
a political office. And the only public office held by
Amy Acton was the chief medical director appointed by, shall
we say, Mike DeWine to hold news conferences on a
regular basis.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So we relied upon her judgment.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
She said at one point that the fatality rate, the
death rate of COVID-19 is 50%.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
So before this.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
All began, what, in March, April, May of 2020, when
all hell broke loose, all of us were, may I
use the term, spooked, frightened, scared, uncertain. We needed advice.
And the issue became, is this the bubonic plague? Is
this Ebola? Are we all going to die? And Amy

(19:47):
Acton played into those fears right here on The Big One.
regularly by talking about a 50 fatality rate and ohio
was the first state in the union to shut down
the public schools under the order of dr amy acton
relying upon her judgment shut down everything couldn't move In fact,
I've related the story to you once or twice in

(20:09):
the last, what, gosh, I can't believe it's been six years.
Related to the story that yours truly, because I'm connected
to the Trump administration, was given special status as a
designated survivor. That is that there was a pod under
the transmitter in Mason in which I would go there
for up to a 90-day period with a pneumatic tube

(20:31):
giving me information about in order to broadcast through transistor
radios that you would pick up at shopping centers throughout
the tri-state to get information, assuming all hell broke loose.
It could have been an EMP, could have been a nuclear,
but it largely was centered upon COVID-19 and Dr.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were in trouble. And the public
schools shut down quickly for long periods of time, colleges, universities,
grade schools, high schools, etc., except the Catholic schools and
the private schools couldn't do that. Or they could have
done it, but they didn't because they shut down for
one to two weeks and that was it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
They got back at it.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Not one person in America under the age of 18
was killed, died, COVID-19.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Not one who was otherwise healthy. It was a disease.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
It was a serious flu that attacked the lungs and
things of that character. So if you had immune compromised circumstances, Yes,
you were at risk. About a million, one million Americans
supposedly died of COVID-19. But the coding of those deaths
is highly suspicious because if hospitals would code COVID-19, they
were reimbursed for millions of dollars of care. Otherwise, they

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would not have been coded properly. So that's another issue
off to the side. So the judgment of Dr. Amy
Acton at that time was very important. There was no history.
We knew nothing about her events in 2019. that police
reports on her that never hit the public consciousness to my.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Memory.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I can't recall any time in 2020 when the Columbus
Dispatch released information about the drinking and perhaps illegal drug
use of Dr. Amy Acton in 2019. I would strongly
suspect that that when she took over the airwaves in
March of 2020 through that summer, six months, that Mike

(22:29):
DeWine knew nothing about this, though he could have, because
her judgment was critical to everything she ordered to be done.
And so my good friend Jack Windsor of the Ohio
Press Network has done some work on this. You may
get some of these records at theohiopressnetwork.com.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Jack Windsor.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Headline, this was as of about a month ago, Beckley
records obtained by the Ohio Press Network confirmed Acton's daughter
placed 2019 911 call. Quote, mom has been drinking and
throwing things and breaking glass.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Quote, unquote. That's from the 911.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Call placed by her adult daughter to 911 saying, quote,
mom has been drinking and throwing things and breaking glass.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Unquote.

Speaker 8 (23:16):
Mom, it's Dr. Amy Acton.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'd like to have known.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
In 2020, when she shut down everything in the state
of Ohio, whether the media, I didn't know, knew this
and did not make it public to provide a background
for Dr. Amy Atkinson's control. It's truly unbelievable this happened,
how it happened. Now we found out from Dr. Anthony

(23:43):
Fauci in his journal and his diary that that he
lied through his teeth repeatedly about the seriousness of COVID-19.
He lied about where it originated. He lied about the
death slash fatality rate. He lied about six feet of separation.
He lied about children being at risk. He lied and
he lied and he lied so badly, he received a

(24:05):
pardon from Joe Biden and the auto pen going out
the door.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
That's serious.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
So to put a sharper point on this, The caller
to 911 in 2019, this was in some youthful indiscretion
of Dr.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Amy Fauci.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
The caller was described then as an adult family member,
and Beckley, Ohio police told News 5 in Cleveland that
the department no longer retained the dispatch audio because of
the incident's age, which was at this point, what, six
and a half years ago. But according to one other source,

(24:44):
it was NBC News, According to the call log, a
9-11 call came in at 9.45 p.m. on Saturday, August 17, 2019,
and was classified 911 domestic disturbance. Priority one. Officers were
dispatched at 9.48 p.m.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
To Dr. Amy Acton's home.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
First arrived at 9.52 p.m. and a second one at
9.58 p.m. Columbus Fire and Medic also was sent to
the scene because of the behavior of Dr.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And there were read no transport officers cleared at 1031.
So he spent about 45 minutes there. The field report
by Beckley police written by the responding officer and approved
the following day. State the officer spoke with the parties
involved and determined that Acton's had gotten into a verbal
argument over her extended work hours.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
This was 2019.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It states that Acton became upset because she felt her
husband was antagonizing her and wanted to leave and that
she was descending the stairs, quote, She grabbed hold of
the mirror on the wall and pulled it down, shattering
the glass, quote, unquote. The report also says, quote, she
went to the garage to get into the car and leave,
but her husband talked her out of it. They both

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stated they had been drinking. And that Acton stated she
had taken, quote, an unknown amount of prescription drugs. It
states she checked by the medic and advised to go
to the hospital. So the medic on scene said, Dr.
Amy Acton, you need help.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You're in trouble.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Go to the hospital. And Dr.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Amy Acton refused.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
So she tried to get into a car, drinking, likely drunk,
on high on something. And her husband and the officer
stopped her from getting behind the wheel of a car.
She was checked by the medic who said, go to
the hospital.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But Dr. Amy Acton refused.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The same report states, quote, there's no evidence of any
physical violence between the two, and it was determined it
was a verbal dispute only. No arrests were made and
no charges were filed. But secondly, here we go with
incident number two that we're aware of. Beckley police obtained

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a second report.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Here it is.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
The response the first time was to call it a
Beckley's home by a member of the family, etc., There
was a second incident taking place of a similar character
involving a different man at a different address.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
My point is this.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Information of this type, in my view, should have been
critical to the idea of putting this person in charge
of your life for like a six-month period. And to
go a little sharper point, the August 2019 response was
not the first time Beckley police were called to Acton's
home by a member of her family.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Ohio News reported in June.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
2019, citing a Beckley police report it attained, officers were
dispatched to Acton's home at 12.20 a.m. in the morning
on June 16th regarding a DV disturbance after Amy Acton's daughter,
then a teenager, called authorities worried that her parents, Acton
and her ex-husband, quote, were going to get into some

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type of altercation. According to the police report, quote, both
parents said they were fine. There was no fight whatsoever reported.
And the Ohio Press Network's trying to get more records,
but the Bakula Police Department won't release them. When Max Miller, Republican,
had difficulties with Bernie Marino's daughter, to whom he has

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a relationship with, there were calls by the Republicans to
get rid of Congressman Max Miller, get him out of office.
And media will go around to every Republican saying, what
do you think about Max Miller and his problems with
domestic disturbances? Well, in this case, Max Miller is one

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of 435, right? Well, Amy Acton would be one of one.
She'd be the governor of the state of Ohio, where
her judgment on an hourly and daily basis would have
to be solid and good based upon facts and the
best interest of the people of the state of Ohio.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And as Vivek Ramaswamy just.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Said, She will not, she has not yet, excuse me,
she has not yet sat down for an interview in
which she explained herself in any of these areas of life.
And to his credit, David Pepper, just add Pepper. And
by the way, I like David Pepper. He's been an

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office holder here in Hamilton County, Cincinnati. I think he
was Hamilton County Commissioner for a while. And he's the
Lieutenant Governor.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
David Pepper.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Pepper defended Acton at the time telling News 5 in Cleveland, quote,
I think someone called because they believe that Dr. Acton
was under threat. Well, quote, unquote, she was not under
the threat. Her family was under threat by Dr.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And the written call log, which survives, identifies the caller
in the records. She told the dispatcher, quote, my stepdad
and mom are fighting and mom has been drinking and
throwing things and breaking glass. And she had left the
house and was heading to her father's home. So those

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are the facts. Are they important facts? Are they critical facts?
In Congressman Max Miller's position, they're critical facts because he's
been told to leave the race. Because you don't handle
domestic disturbances properly. You might have been the instigator, might
have not. But nonetheless, there's a more clear example here

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of Dr. Amy Fauci having at least two instances with
two different men, circumstances that relate to her judgment and
the fact she was going to get behind the wheel
of a car when she had been drinking and was
told to go to the hospital.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
And Dr.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Amy Acton refused to go to the hospital because, you know,
she didn't want to go. Put that in your pipe
and smoke it. Don't know what it all means. It's
out there. You make decisions based upon known facts. In
Vivek Ramaswamy's situation, he went to Princeton grade school. He
got into Sanex. His mom and dad lived in Evendale,

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GE engineers. Top of his class. I think it was
year 2000, 2001. He was a valedictorian of Sanex High School.
Went on to college, got advanced degrees. And went out
to the tech world, made billions of dollars, which is
a positive to me, not a negative. Put to work

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tens of thousands of people and came back to his
hometown to run for governor. So his life is also
in the public domain. Is it a positive or a
negative that he's a billionaire? Is it a positive or
a negative that he's built businesses? Is it a positive
or a negative that seemingly he's lived his life without
excessive drinking, breaking things in his home, and having family

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members call the police to come help? I can't imagine
a Republican having this record able to get the nomination
of their party, right?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's difficult.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
In fact, it's been reported that Donald Trump got a
hold of Max Miller directly in northern Ohio and said,
you sure you want to do this?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
And he was way up in the polls. Now he's
like tied.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I don't follow that race very closely because it's
200 miles away. It's in southern Cuyahoga County. But when
a Republican does something in a similar way, not nearly
as serious as Amy Acton, it's a national story. He's
one of 435 Republicans. And whether he did those things
or not, he says he didn't do them. She says

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he did. They're fighting over custody of their daughter.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I don't know. These things happen.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
But up to this point, Max Miller has been a
damn good congressman. On the other hand, Amy Acton has
kept these incidences as quiet as you can, which you can't.
But I wonder if Mike DeWine knew when he appointed
her as the face and the voice of of the
pandemic response medically knew about these circumstances, I tend to

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think he didn't know. Otherwise, you could find somebody better
than Amy Acton upon whose judgment we must rely.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
We got to rely upon that person's judgment. She took
over the state of Ohio for like six months until
the late summer when she refused to shut down all
the state fairs. By that point, the gig was up.
And in fact, if we knew then what we know now,
about Dr. Anthony Fauci, we wouldn't have paid attention to

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a damn thing he said because he lied so many
times his teeth have turned yellow.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And now several states are investigating Fauci for what he
said publicly, which was at divergence to what he believed
privately and many similar. In fact, his number two in
command at the Infectious Disease Department of Health in Washington
has been criminally charged And his number two is singing
like a canary against Anthony Fauci. The problem is Biden's

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auto pen gave him a pardon.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
And Dr.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Amy Acton is now saying, look at my life's work.
Look at what I've done in my life in public health.
Look at what kind of person that I am. And
I want to be your next governor. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (34:23):
Really?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You want to be the next governor?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
When you've held no political office and the one time
in your life, that you've been involved in a public issue,
this is what you've done to the state of Ohio.
And it's amazing to me that Vivek Ramaswamy is this close.
And the polling has Ramaswamy up a couple points. And

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in fact, Couchy, which is a betting service, has Amy
Acton as the favorite to win the state of Ohio
governorship over someone who's built businesses from our community that
led seemingly an impeccable life. And it speaks to the
idea that maybe Ohio is not as red as we

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think it is.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I can't imagine Frank LaRose losing.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
He's running for auditor. I can't imagine him losing. I
guess anything is possible. But when you run for public office,
you put your private life in the public domain, especially
when it comes to your judgment. Because judgment is all
a governor has in office.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And when your own daughter... adult daughter.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
At one time, the other time was a teenage daughter,
calls police and say, get over here. This is serious.
This is bad. Things are happening in my home. Quote,
mom has been drinking and throwing things and breaking glass.
That mom is Dr.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Does this record indicate to you she'll be the next governor?
Is that what you want over someone who also has
not had political life? You can only imagine if Vivek
Ramaswamy had the background of Amy Acton, what the media
would have done to him.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
He doesn't have that background. But when it's a.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Liberal female Democrat, different rules apply than if you're a
male Republican, completely different rules. And the media is accountable
for what they've done and things they have not not done.
And I have respect for David Pepper, who said, well,
I want to put a more positive spin on this.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Just add Pepper.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Pepper says, you know, I think, quote, I think someone
called because they believe that Dr. Acton was under threat. Well, actually,
her family was under threat from Dr. Amy Fauci, Dr.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Amy Acton.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's the person. The family was under threat because of
her behavior. And she tried to get into a car
driving drunk before she was stopped. Does judgment matter when
you're the governor? Now, let's continue. We have more coming up.
After 1 o'clock today will be Dr. Scott Gerber. He

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taught law at Ohio Northern University. He's got a great
column up on Fox News. And later on is Christopher
Ruddy of Newsmax TV and more. 1256, Home of Truth, Justice,
and the American Way. Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW. All right,

(37:25):
Billy Cunningham, the great American professor, Scott Gerber, who's been
out studying, teaching constitutional law for a very, very long time.
He also has a great column and opinion piece at FoxNews.com.
Headline is, the left's constitutional hypocrisy is on full display
in its war against Donald Trump. Professor, once again, welcome
to the Bill Cunningham Show. Explain what the liberals, what

(37:46):
the left and the constitutional hypocrisy is.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Describe that to the American people.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
Okay, well, first of all, it's good to talk to you, Bill,
as always. My article in Fox News is simply pointing
out that the left, you know, other presidents have taken
this exact same position on Supreme Court decisions that President
Trump is taking. So the president also swears to uphold

(38:17):
the Constitution. And he's allowed to have a different interpretation
of the Constitution. I'll give you the two most famous examples.
Abraham Lincoln, who is almost universally regarded as the greatest
president in American history. When he was running for president,
the Supreme Court decided Dred Scott versus Sanford, which, as

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you know, since you're a lawyer, is universally regarded as
the worst decision in the history of of the Supreme Court.
And that decision upheld a particular, upheld the right of
states to have slaves. And Lincoln refused to accept that.
All he said was it bound the two parties in

(39:02):
the case, but it didn't bind the nation. And he said,
when I become president, I'm going to get rid of slavery. Okay,
so that's pretty good. He disagreed with, and then the
second one, During the Great Depression, when FDR, Franklin Roosevelt,
was trying to get the country out of the Great Depression, he,

(39:25):
as you know, had a series of federal programs. to
try to help do that. And the Supreme Court kept
striking them down. So he would use the taxing power
to do something, for example, and the Supreme Court would
say that's unconstitutional. The taxing power can't be used to

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do what you want to do. So he would then
You know, he then used the commerce power, a different
provision of the Constitution, to enact the exact same program,
and eventually the Supreme Court, in the famous switch in
time that saved nine, upheld his power to do it.
And so my message is simply, many great presidents have

(40:10):
refused to accept judicial decisions that they, in their solemn
oath to uphold the Constitution, think are incorrect. And President
Trump is just doing the very same thing that Abraham Lincoln, FDR,
Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, et cetera, have done.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
And the difference is the threat to democracy is a
moniker used by the radical left in this country, whether
you're a member of the DSA or a communist or
Islamist extremist. They say the president's Whenever he disregards or
criticizes a Supreme Court decision, he's a threat to democracy. Well,
if that's the case, then Thomas Jefferson was a threat

(40:53):
to democracy. And then Abraham Lincoln, I think it was 1858,
was the Dred Scott decision. Lincoln was a threat to democracy.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
FDR.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
ignored Supreme Court decisions. In fact, wanted to pack the
Supreme Court. That was okay, too. And so it depends
whose ox is being gored, whether you're a threat to
democracy or following the law. You can always say, well,
this is binding only upon the two parties before me,
which is Marbury versus Madison and Jefferson.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, then eventually they eventually won.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
And so let me ask you a simple other question,
maybe contained within your article at Fox News. And that is,
how is it possible that one federal district court judge,
appointed by Obama, say, in Massachusetts, can issue a TRO against.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
The entire United States of America? How is that legitimate?

Speaker 10 (41:42):
It's not legitimate. And as you know, the Supreme Court
a year or two ago finally said it wasn't legitimate.
And so that practice, for all intents and purposes, is
supposed to be dead. It doesn't mean... that left-leaning federal
judges who want to stop President Trump or other Republicans

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aren't going to keep trying to do it. But the
Supreme Court said they can't do it. They can't do it.
It's called universal injunctions. And the great Clarence Thomas had
been arguing against those for years. And then Jeff Sessions,
when he was attorney general in the first Trump administration,
one of his most important speeches was arguing against universal

(42:25):
injunctions that what you're talking about for the very exact
reason that you just.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Said as far as the uh issue of uh birthright
citizenship it is obvious that uh in the late 1860s
right after the civil war the 14th amendment was put
in and passed by the states in the congress in
order to give uh citizenship rights to recently freed slaves.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That was the purpose.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
And now Donald wants to say, well, it doesn't apply
to other groups such as those who come across the
border in order to have birth tourism or those illegals
who come here to give birth. And the dispute is
fundamentally about constitutional interpretation. And so when Donald said, well,
I'm going to go another... And he issued another executive
order about birthright citizenship of those who come here for money.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Ultimately.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Do you buy as a professor what the Supreme Court said?
It was either five to four, six to three about
birthright citizenship. Or do you think the Trump approach is accurate?
Which is it, professor?

Speaker 10 (43:27):
Yeah, on that, I'm just going to simply say the
point of my essay. I think the great strength is
and if I could, I'm just going to read you
a couple of sentences that relate indirectly to your point.
I say this near the end. after I've made all
the points I've kind of summarized for you listeners already.

(43:47):
And this is what I wrote. This is not an
abstract point for me. Long before Donald Trump entered national politics,
I wrote a book published by Oxford University Press, making
the historical case against popular constitutionalism and departmentalism and an

(44:08):
originalist defense of judicial finality. But that scholarly position does
not mean President Trump is ignoring the rule of law
or behaving like an authoritarian when he advances a theory
of judicial review that other presidents and scholars have likewise advanced.
And what I mean by that paragraph, Bill, is I

(44:29):
don't agree with the theory that President Trump is advancing
or that FDR advanced and the like, but my point
is that other people have made good historical arguments that
that theory is correct. And so simply because Trump agrees
with them and doesn't agree with me doesn't mean that
President Trump is lawless.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
That's it.

Speaker 10 (44:51):
And so I didn't get into the substance of, say,
whether his position on birthright citizenship is correct or whether
his approach to putting his name on the Kennedy Center
is correct or whether his approach to tariffs is correct.
So I tried to stay out of it. And so
on the birthright citizenship point, The best I can do

(45:12):
for you is refer your listeners to an amicus brief
filed by my former lawyer of a couple years ago,
Ben Flowers, who's now on the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals.
He wrote a brief, and he's one of the great
brief writers of recent memory, making your argument for you,

(45:37):
and he was doing it on behalf of Richard Epstein.
who's the most important libertarian legal theorist in the world,
teaches at NYU. So if your listeners want to understand
what a good historical and theoretical and textual defense of
President Trump's position is, they should read Ben's brief, which

(45:57):
is freely available on the U.S. Supreme Court website.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
And Professor Scott Gerber, I can recall that for years,
Barack Hussein Obama said, I have a pen and a phone.
So when the Congress did not do what he wanted
to do or the Supreme Court ruled in a way
that he did not want, Obama said, I got a
pen and a phone. I can recall during the Biden
administration of Joe Biden was mentally alert to another issue.

(46:22):
But when the Supreme Court struck down his forgiveness of
student loans, Biden essentially said, I'm going to ignore that.
It came up with another way to forgive student loans
and lower the interest rate. So it appears that when
Democrats ignore judicial rulings, they're perceived as heroes. But when
Donald Trump does it, he's somehow an authoritarian. Isn't that revealing?

Speaker 10 (46:43):
Yeah, beautiful point. And I'll also point out that the
leading academic theory on popular constitutionalism was penned by then
Stanford Law Dean Larry Kramer. And he did it to
try to say just because the Supreme Court under President

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George W. Bush is conservative and issues these decisions that
we on the left don't like, we can simply ignore
them because it's the people acting through Congress that decide
what the Constitution means, not not the Supreme Court, right?
And so Trump is simply making the same point.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Well, lastly, Professor, if the Founding Fathers were transported from
1789 to 2026... And what would they say about the
preeminence of the judicial system in America that they perceive
to be the weakest and the most irrelevant? Would they
be shocked of how the U.S. Supreme Court, what they've

(47:50):
done to the Constitution?

Speaker 10 (47:53):
Yeah, they would be shocked. Alexander Hamilton in February of 78,
as you well know, famously said that the federal judiciary
would be the, quote, least dangerous branch.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Not anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
In fact, every big issue that the Congress and the
president can't resolve somehow makes its way to the court system.
And whether it's affirmative action or tariffs or student loan
debt or whatever, we all wait for the last part
of the last week in June in order to determine
whether or not how society is going to be ruled.

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They'd be shocked that the Congress and the president have
taken so little authority on their own and given it
to another branch of government.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
Correct.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
And just let me harken back one second about your
point about how the left approaches this question, depending on
what the outcome is they want. You know, that's the
point of my piece. But, you know, and the left
knows that the Supreme Court barely recently said, you know,
upheld anti-abortion rules. And, of course, the left is saying,

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you know, ignore those, that's incorrect and all of that.
So that's another example of If the court issues a
decision the left doesn't like, they say it doesn't matter
what the court said, right? But if Trump, if the
court issues a decision President Trump doesn't like, they say

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he has to follow it if they like it.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
You get it?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yep, I got it. And it's all politics from the
left end. And then when the Democrats go one direction,
the news media and colleges, universities, most of the law schools,
go with the Democrats, because they are Democrats. Lastly, I
would point out that the Supreme Court should be extremely
weak on the issue of abortion. Essentially, they said Roe

(49:48):
versus Wade was wrongly decided, and they're going to send
the issue back to the states and let the states
determine abortion within wide parameters, and the states have done that.
In fact, in Massachusetts, a practicing Roman Catholic, allegedly governor,
named a female named Healy, is allowing abortion up to
the moment of birth. There's about a thousand of those

(50:09):
partial birth abortions around the country. And so essentially, the
Supreme Court said to the states, you're 50 laboratories in democracy,
you make your own rules. And so whether it's a
referendum initiative or bypassing statutes, essentially, the Supreme Court empowered
the people. But Democrats didn't like that either.

Speaker 10 (50:29):
Yeah, on that one, of course, I seriously doubt that
the Democrats are objecting to what the governor of Massachusetts did.
But when the governor of Mississippi goes the other way
in this pro-life, they raise heck about that.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
All right, we've got to run, but Professor Scott Gerber
reminds me of situational outrage or situational ethics. It depends
if you're a popular Democrat that says, I've got a
pen and a phone, or if you're a popular, so-to-speak,
Democrat in Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
who says.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
After the Supreme Court ruled contrary to him on forgiving
student loan debt, well, we're going to ignore that and
we're going to do it anyway. Biden, Obama, Abraham Lincoln, FDR,
we're all applauded. When Trump does it, it's a threat
to democracy, which is all a bunch of bovine scatology.
But Professor Scott Gerber, good piece at Fox News. And

(51:22):
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Professor, you're a great American.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
Thank you, Bill.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
God bless you.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Have a nice week.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
God bless you.

Speaker 9 (51:30):
Bye-bye.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Let's continue. Depends whose ox is being gored. When a
Republican does it, it's outrageous. When a Democrat does it, well,
it's about time. Bill Cunningham, 700 WLW. Okay, now my
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And secondly, I mentioned this, I think, yesterday or the
day before. One of the great men in my life,
that had an impact upon me was Coach Jerry Wood
of Deer Park High School. He passed away silently with
family at his bedside about two days ago. And between
the months of, I would say, middle of October until May,

(52:39):
he was the head basketball coach and the head baseball
coach at Deer Park High School when I went there.
I spent more time with him than any other person
because he was the coach.

Speaker 8 (52:50):
He was the man.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
And I did not know at the time the extent
of good life that he led before he came to
Deer Park High School. He graduated from Loveland High School
in 1951, went to Wilmington College, and served in the
military for three years. And remarkably, his military service included
being a sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

(53:11):
in Arlington. He was one of those men that marched 24-7, 365,
and doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
He was one of them.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
In fact, Jerry Wood was selected as the soldier of
the year by the military district in Washington, D.C. in 1957.
After that, he came to Deer Park High School, taken
over like in 1960 or so, remained there for about
10 years. And when my father departed, shall we say,

(53:40):
with drinking difficulties, I didn't look for them. They arrived
in my life, men like Hal Pennington and Gordon Veterino
and Jerry Wood and and Hank Estes and Tom Griswold
that helped to form my character. When I could have
gone off in a different way, a guy like Jerry
Wood would not permit it. He died a couple days

(54:00):
ago at the age of 93 years old. In fact,
the basketball court at Deer Park High School was named
the Jerry Wood Court under the leadership of Greg Uster
and Jim Stahl. So the family's going to schedule some
sort of a remembrance, some sort of celebration of life.
I'll let you know when that's going to be, but
May long live Jerry Wood and his family. And he

(54:23):
was a great man that had a great impact in
my life. Bill Cunningham, 130, home of your Reds, and
Coach Jerry Wood. Bill Cunningham, 700, WLW.

Speaker 8 (54:33):
What was his crown?

Speaker 7 (54:35):
What was his crime?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Hello?

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Hello?

Speaker 9 (54:42):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Quiet numbskulls, I'm broadcasting. Go for it, you bonehead.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
All right, guys.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
All right, we have a special one. We've got a
special appearance of the yid man, Marty. We've got an
early student, the third man.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
In the booth.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Remember Dick Carlson? Remember that guy? Oh, do I?

Speaker 6 (54:59):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
So to say. Say, you remember that?

Speaker 8 (55:02):
Yeah, he didn't smell too good.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Not too good. What is it, Marty?

Speaker 8 (55:07):
Sorry.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Well, Marty, how are you doing, first of all? What's
the latest? I'm doing good, Billy. I'm doing fine. For
an 84-year-old guy, I'm doing okay. You're getting old, man.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
I know I am.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Believe me when I say it. People can't hurt my
feelings by saying you're really getting old.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
In 1974, in April of 1974, could you have seen
the next, my God, 52 years of your life this way?

Speaker 9 (55:26):
Never.

Speaker 7 (55:27):
Never?

Speaker 9 (55:27):
Never.

Speaker 11 (55:33):
Not as transient as my business is. Guys always leave
me because the grass is greener somewhere else. I was
smart enough to know to stay in the greatest city
in the world. And you got out at the right
time in October of 2019.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Could not have been better.

Speaker 9 (55:45):
Better.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Did you miss it the first few months? I've never
missed it one second. Not one bit?

Speaker 6 (55:50):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Are you responsible for Tito Francona being here? I'm told
you're the one that talked him into it.

Speaker 11 (55:55):
Well, I don't know that it took a lot to
talk him into it, but he and I have been
very close.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
We talked a little bit about it. What's wrong with
the Reds? They're not very good.

Speaker 11 (56:06):
I mean, I'm not saying anything out of school. They
played 140 games or something close to that.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
About eight games. 15 times they were shut out this
season last night. That's not good. Who picks the players? Well,
they're a combination of people that pick the players.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Before we go to the Yid Man right here, I
have this theory. This is the most important thing in
this room right now. I've got to talk to the
Yid Man, Dave Armbruster.

Speaker 9 (56:28):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I had a list of the Reds spending about a
quarter of a billion dollars on baseball talent over the years.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Take Homer Bailey.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Take.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Moustakas. Moustakas. Namush. Take the third baseman.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Key Brian Hayes.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
And that guy before him, $ 137 million we gave.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Candelaria. Candelaria. Throw in one or two more. They spent
$ 250 billion. Is it a matter of spending the wrong
money and the wrong players, picking the wrong players, or
a combination of both?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I think it's probably a combination of both.

Speaker 11 (57:00):
I mean, as much as I love Suarez, and he's
one of the finest people I've ever met in a uniform,
and was genuinely thrilled to come back, you really have
to ask the question, in his case, after hitting, what,
50 home runs or somewhere close to that last year,
if last year was his best bowl. He may go
somewhere after this year and bring it all back again.

(57:20):
Sometimes I think it's bad luck and bad timing.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Do you miss it in the booth? I miss the.

Speaker 11 (57:27):
Well, you know, you had made a comment one time
that you thought one day maybe writing a book and
talk about the things that were discussed during commercial breaks.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
No way on God's green earth is that going to happen.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
That'll never happen.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It was good stuff, man.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You're a dinosaur. I think all of us in a
sense in this room are dinosaurs.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
We are.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Are you kidding? We all remember how our business was
better years ago. Now you're throwing a ball.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
You can.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You throw a bowling ball out there and not.

Speaker 8 (57:56):
Hit a pin.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
That's right. That said, you should go bowling with Thomas Edison.
He did? And people like that. He called him Tommy.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I had to buy out every frame. Now, explain what
this is to honor the young man.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
What happened?

Speaker 11 (58:10):
He's going to be honored tonight along with a bunch
of other guys in the television business and the scoreboard business.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
He represents the radio.

Speaker 11 (58:19):
Business that had served with great honor in TV and
radio and scoreboard business down at the ballparks. And in
Yud's case and all the other guys, Strickler, Jim Strickler,
and all the rest of those guys, J.K. and Roy Alpers,
they were there at Riverfront. And they're going to be honored.
And I think it's wonderful, the wall of honor. And

(58:41):
I think what they're going to do tonight down at
the ballpark is recognize guys that have been sensational. Obviously,
I'm much closer to this guy than the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
You and I were together how long?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
34 years, I believe.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
34 of my 46 years was spent with him in
the booth.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Every spring training from Plant City on. I remember Plant
City with Pete. Also Tampa with the Center for the
Performing Arts.

Speaker 7 (59:07):
With Riho.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
With Jose Blayman on Riho. remembers the Center for the
Performing Arts like you do. You referring to Yidmen? No,
I'm talking to you.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Yidmen, before... Yeehaw Junction, though.

Speaker 8 (59:21):
Yeehaw.

Speaker 11 (59:22):
That's where the girl asked about we stopped at Yeehaw
Junction coming back from Fort Lauderdale or somewhere across the
state to Sarasota. And Joe went and bought a six-pack
of beer, and the woman asked him, could she see
his driver's license?

Speaker 7 (59:38):
Right or wrong, Yed?

Speaker 5 (59:39):
That's 100% true. He was only like 74.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
What did Joe do? I got my AARP card. And
Yed and I were on the floor laughing. Who did
it before you, Yed? Do you recall? There were a
bunch of guys.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Dan Allen did it for one year. Dick Moss did
it for a long time.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Dick did it for... How long were you and I together?

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
34.

Speaker 11 (01:00:02):
Okay, so that means 12 years. Of those 12 before Yid,
Dick did them more than me. He might have done
11 of the 12.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
But he worked for Channel 5 when we were together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Nothing happens until Yid hits the buttons and he gives
you this signal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And every now and then I get a small case.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
A small case?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
And it was usually because of bad equipment.

Speaker 11 (01:00:23):
And Yid was a guy that said every time, just
shut up and sit down and do your job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And when he said it, then I would shut up
and do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Your job because without him, none of the Reds broadcasts
ever got on the air.

Speaker 11 (01:00:36):
And let me in all honesty and seriousness, it was
never a two man team. It was always three because
he was one of them, along with Joe and me
and along with Jeff and me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
He was always included. Yet how much longer?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I am putting out on 17. You're on seven. Go
around the horn a little bit. You're going to do
the loop. 18 is it. You're putting out on 17.
You got 18 to go.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
And that is it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Then what? How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Join Marty in the fields of maybe naked in a cornfield.
Remember you, me, Sag, and Joe naked?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Joe got mad.

Speaker 9 (01:01:12):
He got.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
As I said, I'm going to sit in the wheelbarrow
and I'm going to be buck naked. And they'll take
the picture to go in the Cincinnati Women's Garden calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
And he said, I'm going home if you take your
clothes off. Yeah, I'm going home. He got mad. You
kept your undies on?

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
That wouldn't be the first time you got him mad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
A few times. Did you have terrible fights with Joe?

Speaker 11 (01:01:35):
No, I get terrible fights, but it was so easy.
Because God bless him, he was naive. He'd buy anything
you told him. He'd get bent out of shape, and
sometimes he would want to pinch my head off, and
that didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
How about the day that we pulled into Tampa, and
the parking spot wasn't there? Oh, that was, you remember
where it was? That was in Red Sox, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
No, Yankees.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
No, wrong, too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It was in Eden, playing the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 11 (01:02:03):
When he pulled up alongside the clubhouse down the right
field line, that guy wouldn't get out of the way.
And Joe said, if you don't get out of the way,
I'm going to run over you. And he started the
car up and that guy just swam.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Van Van. Joe had a temper, didn't he? Had one
of the all-timers. We loved him like a brother, though, man.
Plant City.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
He is the only person that liked Plant City.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
He loved it. He loved Plant City. Him and Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I mean, Pete liked it because he got it for free.
It was cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
We're in Sarasota and Joe picks me and Seg for
the baseball heaven team. And at that point, I could
still throw, you know, in the 90s.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
And so I have a no-hitter, bottom of the seventh,
last inning, winning one to nothing over this world series
title on the line.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And for the guys playing on the team, big deal, right?

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Joe starts walking out. I said, what the hell do
you want? He said, give me the ball. I said,
what do you mean, give me the ball?

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
You're out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I said, I'm out. Winning one to nothing. I got
a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Brings in the left fielder, long and short. It was
a walk, walk, double. We lose the game two to one.
We go in the locker room. Seg is there with me.
And I start screaming at Joe, calling him everything but
a white man. He starts running at me with a
baseball bat. Fortunately, I was near an exit. I go
out the exit. Well, he couldn't catch you. He couldn't
catch me. He chased me down. Dale Mabry went through

(01:03:24):
two red lights with a ball bat. Both of us
are in uniform. At this point, what did I do, Seg?
I can't remember to tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I called Delta.

Speaker 11 (01:03:36):
721-7000.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Get me the hell out of Tampa. And flew home.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
And I flew home. I missed all the crap because
Joe would have hurt me. Was that story true? No,
it's true. Seg was there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
It's true. He was there. He didn't even remember it.
He don't remember it. Dale Mabry. It's terrible. Well, Joe,
you know, it is what it is. Do we have
any hope, Marty? Do you have any hope? I have
hope every day I wake up. For the Reds, you
have hope?

Speaker 9 (01:03:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:03:59):
For what?

Speaker 9 (01:03:59):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I think next year they're going to be better. I
always have to feel that way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Well, in the last 13 years, they've not finished first
or second in the Central Division.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
That's correct. Is that good or bad? That's very, very bad.

Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
That's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
There's a consistency there that doesn't work. You've got to
be consistent in life.

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
Yeah, that's right. Tracy called me consistently serviceable as a broadcaster.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
How much longer will you keep doing this than what
you do? Well, I'm doing what I like. That's why
I'm at it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:27):
I don't even know why you're retired. Cause you're still
doing so much in town. I said, I retired from
what I wanted to retire from. And that's broadcasting baseball.
And it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
The way it is. Now see your ego will not
allow you to retire. My ego allowed me to retire.

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
You got a bigger ego than I got.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Cause I would still be working if I did. I
like what I'm doing though.

Speaker 11 (01:04:49):
It's the weakest answer on earth because I liked what
I was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
No travel. And I live, I live right there.

Speaker 11 (01:04:55):
You've never been to Europe. Um, Amanda and I have
been to Europe five times since I retired. We've gone
all over Europe. I mean, we haven't missed a thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Yeah, Willie, I thought you were going to spend like
the summer in Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I thought about getting a place, but Penny's going there
with some of the old retired female judges.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
You want no part of it. No, I said, honey,
if you want to go to Europe, run a villa.
And if you call doing what you're doing.

Speaker 11 (01:05:18):
In comparison to going to Italy and Germany and London
and all these other places, you've got a real mental problem.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Well, I do have a mental problem, but I like
what I'm doing. If I get somewhere else, I like it.

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
I do, too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
That's a weak answer. Why do you like traveling so much, Marty?

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Because I've expanded my horizons. You're 85 years old. That's right,
and I'm healthy as a man. A day is long.

Speaker 9 (01:05:40):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
How much longer? You look like you've been painting closets.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
What?

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
About my legs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You look like they dug you up five minutes ago.
My wife says I have attractive legs.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
No, you don't, Bubba. So, Yid, what happens tonight now?
Do you get on the wall? Could it be on
or on the field? On the field.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Yeah, just do a little wave and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Couldn't happen to a better person. Believe me when I
tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
He was my assistant PD for two years until... until
Mark Chase told him he's fired.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
I got fired January 4th, 1999. Listen to this, Marty.
But I wasn't allowed to leave. He fired me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
In walks my boss.

Speaker 8 (01:06:13):
Who was that?

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
Mark Chase.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
He comes in. No kidding?

Speaker 9 (01:06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I'm running the station.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
He says, Assistant Petey walks in and he sits down
and says, I have to tell you guys something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
He said, Dave, you're fired. I said, no, wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I thought it was a joke. He said, no, you're done.
I said, what do you mean he's done?

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
He's done.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
He's done.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
Why? Why?

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
He didn't give me a reason. But I wasn't allowed
to leave. I said, well, I'm going to leave, and
you're not allowed to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
He said, you're not leaving, man. We need you here.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
So here I am, 27 years later. He's still here.

Speaker 12 (01:06:38):
No one knows he's still employed. That's how screwed up
this place is. I never heard that story. I can't
believe I never heard that story. He leaves, and I said,
what the hell was that? And you said to me,
is that a joke?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I went up and saw him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
I said, look, you've got to tell me these things.
I'm going to fight for that guy. He said, no,
he's gone. But you told him he can't leave. We
need him here too much.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
What the hell are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
That was my boss.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
That's a great story. It's a true story, and you're
still here. Sadly, a lot of that happens in this business.
You can't believe this business, Mark. You can't believe it.
Mine was a little bit more sane.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
When you walked in, who'd you tell you're done? Was
it Phil? I told Phil. Phil, what'd he say? He
tried to talk me into working four more years. Four
more years.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
So I could say I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Had 50 years.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
50.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
What about that?

Speaker 11 (01:07:27):
I politely said, you people don't have enough money to
get me to come back for four more years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
What if they doubled your money? I was done. You're done?
Stick a fork in me. What was it that said
you were done? You were done doing... You know, I
wish I could answer that question. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:07:41):
I just started thinking about it. And finally, I told
Amanda in November after the 19 season, after the 18 season,
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I think I'm going to do this.

Speaker 11 (01:07:51):
Because I remember when Joe retired, Joe worked a little
bit longer than he should have. And he was unable
to do a lot of the things he wanted to
do that physically he could not do. And that made
a major impression upon me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And at that point, you were, what, 77? I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:08:07):
78?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I'm 84 now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's about right. 77, 78. Yeah,
that's old. That's getting old. How old are you?

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
78.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Oh, you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
You're not 78.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
You look it, but you're not. No, no, I am 78.
I look like they just dug you up. Last time
I looked. Well, Marty, congratulations on a life well lived.
Thank you, Marty.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
You've got a good sense of humor, Billy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I got it. In this business, you better have a
sense of humor or you're out of here. God bless you.
God bless America.

Speaker 7 (01:08:36):
I will.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
All right, man. Segment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yid, congratulations.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
Thank you, Segs.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
Thank you, Willie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Seg is outed in sports.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Give me out of the Stooges report. We never got in.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
We never got in.

Speaker 13 (01:08:46):
Willie, in honor of the Yid man, we leave you
with the immortal words of the Stooges report.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I trust you'll have more clothes on when I see
you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Who were you referring to?

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
More clothes on at Wrigley.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Hope you have more clothes on when I see you
at Wrigley.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
I said that to somebody?

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Maybe I don't want that released.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
It's now a cut.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Another one. Maybe you'll have more clothes on when I
see you. That's what you said.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Hit that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Let him listen to this. Listen to this. Hit that again.
I trust you'll have more clothes on when I see
you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
That's Brantley, isn't it?

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
2012.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Remember that one?

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:09:28):
No, no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
April 19, 2000.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I feel better after hearing that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
April 19, 2012. We have stuff on you you can't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
This head wore out six bodies now. Six bodies.

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:44):
I'm out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Thank you. All right, boys. Congratulations, Jed.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Once again, anything in sports you want to relate to
the American people? We'll get to it at 2.30. Do
I need to report to somebody?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
On News Radio 700, WLW.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Christopher Ruddy is the CEO and founder of Newsmax. And
full disclosure, I often appear on Newsmax TV with Todd
Starnes and others. And he's got a great column up
about the chances for the Republican Party winning in November.
And he's headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida. And let's face it,
there's few people that have the ear of the president

(01:10:30):
more closely than Christopher Ruddy. And Christopher, Chris, welcome again
to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, give the
American people just an overview of how difficult the election
might be on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
November the 3rd of this year. How hard will it be?

Speaker 9 (01:10:45):
Well, Bill, first of all, I got to, you know,
full disclosure, you don't really come on Newsmax. You don't
have the time for us. What we do is we
do an AI-generated... doppelganger and he sounds just like you
he's a little better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Looking thank you and it works thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
That's right people keep saying who is this guy cunning
him i said you wouldn't believe if you actually met
him but uh any event i think it's going to
be um you know i think you and i tend
to have similar worldviews on things it's going to be
a tough ride right it's not this is not a
i mean we're going to have um it's the we're
up against incredible odds We shouldn't be in pretty good

(01:11:24):
shape if the media was somewhat fair and balanced in
this country. But they're out to get Trump. They're out
to get the Republicans. And we're now seeing the polling
data doesn't look all so great, right? So it's a
tough thing. It's nothing you can, you know, you and
I were chatting a little offline. We know it's going
to be an uphill battle all over the place, including
in Ohio.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
And let's face it, off-year elections tend to be bad
for the incumbent. And I think two or three factors
are at play. One, there's a little bit of Trump fatigue.
He's been at it for about 11 or 12 years now.
And secondly, the war in Iran is perceived not going well.
I think it's a battle that we must win. And
this is the first president in our lifetime to actually
fight the monstrous evil and all the tentacles of Iran.

(01:12:07):
And we're going to win that at some point if
we stick with it. And just thirdly, there's lots of
candidates around the country that are not the strongest.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I got a short list here.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
And the U.S.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Senate in Ohio. Maine, Michigan, Texas, Alaska, Georgia, Florida, your
home state, Angie Nixon against Ashley Moody. And everywhere I look,
I see opportunities. And what's not helping is Trump's falling
approval ratings. It's quite low. And for those of us,
more or less, you're closer to him than almost anybody.

(01:12:40):
And we understand that the media does not care about objectivity.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
I give you an example, Dr.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Anthony Fauci, He had all those revelations about lying to
us on important matters, costing lives, and the mainstream media
didn't cover it at all. And so if we had
an objective media, it would be better. But nonetheless, what
do you see as the two or three things dragging
down the Republican Party in November?

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
Well, let's start with interest rates.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
Hmm.

Speaker 9 (01:13:12):
The president had said he wanted interest rates lower. He
pushed and pushed. He finally got a Fed chairman in.
The guy hasn't lowered rates yet. Rates are high now.
It's 4%, but the longer bonds are going up even higher.
And interest rates in my book should be 2%. There's
no inflation. There's no monetary inflation. There's an inflation due

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to the product linked to gasoline, which is a temporary thing.
So costs are going up because of this demand, not
because of inflation of the currency. And what they should
be doing is offsetting that. And you're seeing huge cancellations
in the home purchases, the highest mortgage rates.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
That hurts.

Speaker 9 (01:13:51):
Gasoline prices, which is really a phenomena of the Iran war.
I happen to support the president on this. I think
getting rid of Iran has shown tremendous leadership. But I
think they've done, the administration, the failing is in the administration,
they've done a poor job on communications issues.

Speaker 6 (01:14:10):
The public just doesn't know.

Speaker 9 (01:14:12):
They haven't really walked through why we should be in Iran.
You just get little bits and pieces. I mean, I've
never seen anything quite like this. The president is a
master of communication, but it's just him. There's no other communication.
They don't even go, most of the administration officials other
than Fox, they don't go on other networks. Lower-level officials
are not allowed. Again, it's so bizarre. You call over

(01:14:34):
there and say, I'm the biggest station in Cincinnati, Bill Cunningham.
I'd like to have the Secretary of the Navy talk
about this. They won't let him on. It's so bizarre.
You can't make it. So I think those things are hurting.
Trump has a really good record. He's only been president
a year and a half. He secured the border overnight,
stopped inflation within six months. Jobs have been pretty good.

(01:14:59):
Massive investment in AI. I know that's controversial, but it
is growing the economy in key parts of the country. And,
you know, I think there's a lot of things, but
it's early. And I think Big Beautiful has been good.
A lot of things are good, but the lowest prescription
drugs in history. The Trump accounts for young kids. These

(01:15:21):
are the huge things that will be remembered 50 years
from now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Well, and on top of that, no tax on tips,
Social Security, no tax on overtime, the lowest prescriptive drug
prices ever. The southern border is now shut down. The
economy creates more jobs, actually, than can be filled. There's
about 5 million jobs unfilled in America today. And there's
about 7 or 8 million Americans, males, between the ages

(01:15:47):
of 18 and 45 that don't work at all. They
live in their mother's basement. I look at it objectively.
If somebody take away Donald Trump's name, which is radioactive
in parts of our world, take that away and just
line up the 10 or 12 things going on in
America today, you would think, well, the incumbent's going to
win this thing going away. And in fact, that's not
going to be the case. You had the president's ear.

(01:16:10):
Does he privately understand how difficult life would be for
him if the House and the Senate, I think most
people say the House is gone. I pray to God
it isn't. But how difficult it will be in the
last two years of his term if he has a
Democratic House by Akeem Jeffries and AOC and a Senate
with the last two years of the term of the U.S.

(01:16:33):
senator from New York. who is acting as if he's
not Jewish. Can you imagine the last two years of
that term, what it's going to look like? Does Trump
understand that?

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
Short answer, no.

Speaker 9 (01:16:46):
No. I did speak to, I just spoke to him
the other day and, you know, he's a very positive mood.
And as you know, I've known him for almost 30 years.
We've talked a lot in that period of time.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
And I've seen the whole thing.

Speaker 9 (01:16:59):
But If you say to Donald Trump, if you do this,
this and this is going to happen, you've got to
be careful six months, six years, whatever. Trump doesn't think
that way. He thinks, well, it's good now. I've got
to do it now. He's a now person. He's not
a tomorrow person. It's just part of his DNA. So

(01:17:19):
it adds to a tremendous sense of urgency on his part,
why he never stops and So much, he really has
accomplished a lot in short order. But also, there's no
real long-term planning on things. We see that in the
Iran war and other aspects. And he's not, his view,
I think, would be, look, I took them on before,
I'll take.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Them on again. So what's the difference? I don't care.

Speaker 9 (01:17:41):
You know, I've had discussions with him. I oppose the broadcasting.
consolidation rules. They're allowing all these big TV networks to
buy up all the local stations in America. You're only
going to have two or three TV companies owning all
the licenses. This is insane. They oppose Republicans. They oppose conservatives.
They oppose Trump. And his attitude is, well, I beat

(01:18:01):
them before.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
I'm like, well, you beat them.

Speaker 9 (01:18:03):
But, you know, 10 years from now, I'm still fighting
these guys. Bill Cunningham's still fighting these guys. You know,
he doesn't think that way. And it's just that's the
way he thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Imagine in Michigan if Dr. Abdul, who's not a doctor, wins,
and Tallarico wins in Texas, and Angie Nixon wins in Florida.
Do we not perceive reality? If you and I sit
here on November the 4th and 5th and say, okay,
we've got Dr. Abdul, we have Tallarico, we have Angie Nixon. Maybe–

(01:18:34):
do you and I not perceive reality?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Is that possible?

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
I think you're mispronouncing his name, Bill. It's Talafrico.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Talafrico. What if he's the next senator? Cornyn's leaving.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
He's angry.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
And so I think i i i don't know what
to say maybe well are you and i the problem
yeah the guy that runs newsmax and me and talk
radio that we don't perceive reality that actually talafrico would
be a great u.s senator who thinks jesus christ is
binary and that and that the virgin mary was a
skank that that somehow that person gets.

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
Elected I know it's really, and you would never think,
but Texas is changing. Paxton, you know, you have occasion
where you don't have a, I mean, I like him.

Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
I think he's a great guy, but I don't think
he's the strongest candidate in that race.

Speaker 9 (01:19:23):
And everybody, you know, and then, you know, in Ohio,
I don't think Divick is that strong a candidate. And
so you're going to, you know, key races we're not
going to lose, losing, you know, Ohio governorship. Hopefully a
Florida will hang in there and we'll do well with
Byron Donalds. But, you know, sometimes we're not picking the
candidates to it. So they're picking guys that are a

(01:19:46):
little bit crazy. You'd think they normally wouldn't win. But,
you know, there's the media is never going to focus.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Just like you said earlier, they didn't focus on Fauci and.

Speaker 9 (01:19:56):
All the incredible lies. They don't they're not going to
focus on Tyler. Tyler Frico's incredible, incredible stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
That he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Well, I tell you what, when Mamdani, we're about to
commemorate the sacrifice of 3,000 Americans on 9-11. If somebody
had told you on 9-12 that 25 years from now,
a radical Islamist will be elected the mayor of New
York City, and he'll be supposedly on site for the
25th year commemoration of the sacrifice and the murder of

(01:20:29):
3,000 Americans on 9-11, Christopher Ruddy of Newsmax You wouldn't
have believed that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
That's not possible, right?

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
Well, I'm sitting in New York right.

Speaker 9 (01:20:43):
Now, and the idea that his wife was saying things too,
and just the amount, and I just saw the news.
We had it on Newsmax that the president's not planning
on showing up at the ceremony, so it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
May have something to do with that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:21:01):
But it is a shocking phenomenon. And Israel, like, I'm
supportive of Israel. They are our only democratic ally. On 9-11,
they didn't attack Israel. They attacked the United States. They
could have easily sent planes into Israel. But we're the
great Satan. They're out to get us. Israel is sort
of just an obstacle in the way. And the Islamists

(01:21:23):
want to get us, the radical jihad. And so I
think why President Trump is doing this, you know, they
have a long history of killing Americans, Iranians all over
the world.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Christopher Ruddy, one thing comes to my mind on occasion
is that the average American is 30 years old. So
the average American was born in like 1996, maybe come
of age about 15 years ago. That whole chunk of
half the American people have little or no memories of
the Iran takeover by the Ayatollahs in 1979. They don't

(01:21:56):
have a reference to the 1980s or the 1990s. And
they're not taught American history, American education. So many of
our so-called elite schools are indoctrination centers and not centers
of higher education. There's little debate happening in most of
the urban high schools or most of all the colleges
about conservatism and William F. Buckley and Thomas Sowell and

(01:22:17):
how great Ronald Reagan was. There's no debate about that
or Rush Limbaugh. There's no debate. Half the American people
came of age about 10 or 15 years ago. And
they don't have a history, and they don't want to
know the history.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
When I see some of.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Your Newsmax reporters or Jesse Waters with Johnny going into
the streets and talking to people about who's the vice president,
who's the attorney general, how many states are there, how
many representatives are there in the House, how many senators
are there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
You never get a correct answer. They have no clue.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
They're stuck to their phones in their left hand like
I am and looking at the phone screen constantly. And
I'm harking back to the words of Benjamin Franklin, who
came out of Independence Hall and said, well, we have
a republic if we can keep it. And the answer is,
after 200-some years, if the electorate doesn't arise and say,
you know what, we can't live the way that Talafrico

(01:23:13):
and Mamdani and that Angie Nixon and Dr. Abdul wants
us to live, but they're attractive because the candidates are
physically attractive on the left and And by talking about
Medicare for all and free food and excuse all your
student debt, there's not a grounding by those individuals in reality.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 (01:23:35):
Well, I hear everything you're saying. I do think the
reverse of that is, why am I dominating? New York
is sort of a conservative-leaning town. It has Giuliani, it
had Bloomberg, it had Ed Koch. These were not left-wingers.
And so, you know, how does a guy like that
get elected? Because he realizes there's a group of people

(01:23:57):
that don't feel they have jobs, don't have money for housing, whatever,
and he's answering their problems. We know the answer is
crazy and it leads to worse, but they don't know that, right?
But it's their solution. I think conservatives like we need
to have solutions for people, too. We need to think
about that. Jack Kemp was great in those type of things.
But we're not always thinking there's a massive polarization going

(01:24:20):
on because the oligarchs in this country, you know, increasingly
I'm seeing it. We had our Newsmax magazine cover on oligarchs.
You know, you have 50 percent of the country have
no wealth whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Nothing.

Speaker 9 (01:24:32):
They would paycheck to paycheck or if they get a check.
And then you have the other 50, something like 5%
of the country owns 50% of their wealth.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
And then 10%.

Speaker 9 (01:24:43):
Owns 70% of the wealth. Now, the socialist answer is
let's just take their money and spread it around. That's terrible, right?
Conservative answer is we need more competition. We need more
free enterprise. We need less taxes on working class and
the middle class. and balance it out. When you see

(01:25:03):
people like Elon became a trillionaire, right? But largely it
was through government grants and tax credits for Tesla. You know,
it was all inside government regulations. It's not like, so
I'm for, we have to start thinking creatively about how
we respond. I can't, you know, we pay five to
10 times higher bill for our cell phone bills than

(01:25:25):
Europeans because the FCC under Brendan Carr has given all
the spectrum, Three companies led by AT & T, and
they control the price. It's like a cartel. I could
show you we pay three times as much for pay
TV cable because they gave the broadcast TV licenses, exemptions

(01:25:45):
and rules to help them, and they squeeze out huge
amounts of money that we pay for in a cable bill.
You go through this list.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Of things.

Speaker 9 (01:25:53):
And, you know, generally oil prices in America have been
pretty good because there's a lot of competition.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
And that's what we need to do is, you know,
reaffirm the Reagan ask values were for competition, free enterprise,
stop these oligarchies that are developing in our country and
have a, an agenda that reaches those 30 year old.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
They go, Oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:26:14):
You know, Malay did this down in Argentina and one big,
all the young people voted for him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Well, we need that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
And, uh, Trump is, as far as politics is concerned,
is the leader. And once he leaves the scene, I
can't believe Donald Trump is more than 80 years old.
And when he leaves the scene, maybe my friend J.D.
Vance will pick up the specter, but let's face it,
it doesn't have the magnetism. He doesn't have the star

(01:26:40):
power of Donald Trump. Donald Trump shows up in a room,
and every eye goes toward him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Well, Chris, we're ready. We've got to run.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
I often think we get the government we deserve, and
at times that concerns me greatly.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
And I hope we better.

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
I think we're going to have to start running fast
before this election. Two things I would encourage people to
keep listening to Bill Cunningham. One, number two, download the
free Newsmax app on your iPhone, Android. It takes a minute.
You can watch us anywhere in the world. We're the
only channel that I think lets you do that. are
streaming Newsmax 2 channel.

Speaker 6 (01:27:15):
And it's incredible.

Speaker 9 (01:27:17):
We've had 15 million people go to their iPhone for
Newsmax and Android, and it's been a big number. So
we're keeping the revolution alive.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Let's keep it going for our children and our children's children.
Christopher Ruddy of Newsmax, once again, thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Christopher, you're a great American.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Thank you. And you are as well, Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
God bless you. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham on
700 WLW.

Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Were you naked when you were in that wheelbarrow?

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Was I buck naked?

Speaker 7 (01:27:45):
Yeah, they just had you on the TV side. I
was just wondering because you looked like you were.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
I was not.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
When Joe was pushing it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
They put that thing on TV.

Speaker 7 (01:27:53):
It was on TV. Y'all out in the middle of
a cornfield. A couple of fellas out there just enjoying themselves.

Speaker 11 (01:27:58):
There's the swing up. I will tell you something. I
told Joe I was going to get right down to
the nitty-gritty, and he was offended by it. So I
had to leave my shorts on. Just having fun in
the cornfield.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
Just enjoying themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Two and two, the count.

Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
It's just not something you see every day.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
No, you do not. That was for a calendar.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
Was it?

Speaker 9 (01:28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
For the Garden Club of Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Hello?

Speaker 7 (01:28:41):
Hello?

Speaker 11 (01:28:42):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Quiet, numbskulls. I'm broadcasting. Go for it, you bonehead.

Speaker 10 (01:28:47):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
All right, Seg, tell the story.

Speaker 8 (01:28:50):
You ever been in a calendar, ESPN calendar rock? No,
never have. Especially not naked. Especially not naked, yes. Tell
the story about how this happened. Garden Club of Cincinnati
got a hold of us, Willie. They got Marty and
Joe was in the calendar. You and I were in
a calendar with, well, we.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Had a shovel or something. Yeah, we had like a
crow coming down on top of us, and we're out
there on, what was that? It was a new town
in a cornfield.

Speaker 8 (01:29:14):
New town, right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Were you guys naked?

Speaker 10 (01:29:17):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
I said to Joe, I said, you've got to be
kidding me. You're going to get naked, so I'll get naked.
I said, I don't want to see that, Joe. So
we're down there with Joe and Marty, me, and I
think you and I, I had a shovel and you
had something around.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:29:30):
In a cornfield.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Each month was a different so-called personality, and they would
sell the calendars, get to see us naked.

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
Now, I remember, was it last year we were talking
about this, and someone brought a calendar in or sent
you one?

Speaker 9 (01:29:44):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
It was quite revealing.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
Quite revealing. Of course, that's not the first time you've
been naked.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
I've been naked before. I mean, athletes, aren't you naked
all the time?

Speaker 8 (01:29:54):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
And it's no big deal, right?

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Say, have you been naked recently? No, not in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Well, you play sports in Notre Dame. Like at Deer
Park or Xavier, we were in a locker room in
a big showroom.

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
I can paint Manny naked more than I see my
wife naked.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Have you seen him naked paint all the time?

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (01:30:12):
That's a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
You don't want to look, of course.

Speaker 8 (01:30:14):
That's one of the best ones I've ever heard. I
don't know when I said that or why I said it,
what the scenario was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
It's true, though.

Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
It's very true.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Women don't get naked.

Speaker 8 (01:30:23):
Not enough.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
Not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Men get naked all the time.

Speaker 8 (01:30:25):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I don't care. In fact, I was, you know, the calendar.
I was thinking.

Speaker 8 (01:30:30):
The bodies of the big one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
The bodies of the big one. And I was number one,
and you promised me to be number two. We never
got a copy of that, did we, Ron? No, that
was buried quickly.

Speaker 8 (01:30:37):
Believe me. I think the station did everything they could
to remove that from the archives.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (01:30:42):
It's gone.

Speaker 8 (01:30:44):
What does your wife say when you say, honey?

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
She didn't believe it.

Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
That's something to tell you. You didn't actually pose nude.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
She doesn't listen.

Speaker 8 (01:30:51):
You were on the studio, like on the desk.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
On the desk. She said no. It didn't happen.

Speaker 8 (01:30:55):
Sprawled out like Miss October.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
So I said no. I was like Burt Reynolds in
that one thing he had.

Speaker 10 (01:31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:31:01):
Or like Joe Namath. Joe Namath. I look like that,
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
But I said none of that happened, Penny. That's not true.
He said, okay, I didn't think you'd be that stupid.

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
I said, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I'm stupid, but I'm not that stupid.

Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
Do her friends text her?

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Yeah, tell her.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
And she asked me. I didn't do that. I didn't
say that. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (01:31:20):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
I don't want to knock up Cherie Palolo. It's not true.

Speaker 7 (01:31:23):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
That's all I wanted to know.

Speaker 8 (01:31:25):
That's all I wanted to know. And she just takes
your word at face value?

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Yes, she believes what I tell her.

Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
I believe what I tell her.

Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I don't know. We'll see what happens. Now, one other thing.
I'm glad you brought this up.

Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
College sports right now is in a complete, I read
the stuff, a complete turmoil.

Speaker 9 (01:31:44):
Utter.

Speaker 6 (01:31:44):
It is?

Speaker 7 (01:31:44):
Meltdown.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Because, like, Syracuse University allegedly is going to go bankrupt.
They're talking about colleges going bankrupt. And I look at
some of, like, Penn State. The football team makes millions
of dollars, like $ 80 million.

Speaker 8 (01:31:59):
There are tens of millions in debt.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
And everyone else, like the women's basketball team, loses $ 21
million a year. How long can we go on when
one sport carries everything and carries everything?

Speaker 8 (01:32:09):
But for the longest time, it was an amateur sport
and they weren't paying the players. So there was more
money to go around. But now that these players on
the football teams and the teams that actually make a profit,
now that they require to be paid, that means there's
less resources to go around to some of the other
peripheral sports. So some of the, you know, the gymnastics

(01:32:30):
and the rowing and the. You know, tennis. I mean,
I think Arkansas canceled their tennis team.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
They have to. We can't afford it. We're losing too
much money. And if you're Northwestern.

Speaker 8 (01:32:38):
I said this years ago. Years ago when everyone was talking,
we've got to pay the players. Okay, it's fine. But
just realize, if you're okay with losing some of the
other sports, then that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Title IX keeps that from happening. So they get around
it by saying, this is nil money. This is university money.
This isn't public money. This is something off to the side.
But that's not going to fly too long. So the
lady's going to get angry that the... Women's golf team
isn't free.

Speaker 8 (01:33:02):
South Carolina women's basketball, which is one of the top
programs in the country, lost $ 5 million last year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And that's the gold standard of women's college basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
Like if anybody should turn a profit in women's basketball,
it should be South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Like the WNBA loses money.

Speaker 9 (01:33:19):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:33:20):
Usually like 30 a year. 30 million a year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
And that comes out of the pockets of the NBA.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
And NBA makes up that difference, and it's still not
good enough. Same thing with women's national when they have
the World Cup. The men's team makes billions. The women's
team lose money.

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
I've said this before, but I wonder at what point,
if it takes, you know, again, LSU's roster is $ 43 million.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Their football team, Texas is in the 40s. $ 40 million.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:33:47):
So at what point does winning a national title, but
you're in the hole, tens of millions of dollars. At
some point, that's going to happen because he's... Just three
years ago, Ohio State's roster when they won the national
title was like 20, 22 million. And now here we are.
Now it's at 40. In a couple of years, it'll
be 60. And then it'll be 80. At what point
are you like, boy, man, we put all this into

(01:34:08):
winning a national title, but we're now... 50 million dollars
in debt at what point is it not worth it
at what point do you say you know what i
think now it's nice to have a have a school
and have a football program and fans come out and
they have a good time and and it's great and
it's wonderful we're not going to win a national title
but it's it's you know financially solvent and it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
I know about xavier men's basketball they got a budget
of 26 million dollars middle of the road big east
basketball 26 million for the xavier players And UC's up
there too, right? UC's supposedly 23. But Xavier wants to
compete with the Johnnies. You know, they want to go

(01:34:46):
up to Connecticut. Georgetown's in the nation's capital. Even DePaul
in Chicago is using lots of money.

Speaker 8 (01:34:52):
Xavier's 26 million. How many players are on the roster?

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
15?

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
They're going to probably pay 10 or 11. Making $ 2
to $ 3 million each at Xavier. And the rich guys
don't want to keep paying that money. They're saying, what
am I getting for this?

Speaker 9 (01:35:07):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
Because it used to be that the rich guys got
hit up about every five years.

Speaker 7 (01:35:11):
Hey, we need a new building.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
We need a new training table. We need a new
weight room. Okay, fine. But now it's every year they're
getting hit up for five plus million.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
And if they're really good, they leave. You know, Xavier's
a pretty good program, but they're not University of Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
They're not top, right?

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
So if you're really good, well, you got to pay
me another two million a year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
I'm gone. So the good players leave and the bad
players stay.

Speaker 8 (01:35:33):
And a lot of times the money they put up
for these players, they don't even get a thank you,
not even a, hey, can I take you out to lunch?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
See you, wouldn't want to be you.

Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
No, see you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Last one, glad you brought it up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Randy Freaking, just throwing the inquiry again about him buying
City View Tavern.

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
And I said, look, what's the downside? He's a rich guy.
He made like 10, 12 million in one case. And
he wants to do this. It's like some guy buying
a sports car or buying a big boat. And he said,
I've always wanted to own the city view. I don't
know what he paid, probably $ 300, 000, $ 500, 000. And I said,
what's the worst thing that can happen? He said, I
want to hold the losing down to a minimum amount
every year. Well, make it a condominium.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Condos in mount adams are going for a million but.

Speaker 8 (01:36:12):
He's not trying to make money this is like a
pet like you said like a guy that has a
sports car and goes uh golfing and going golf trips.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
And he wants to make he's gonna cut he was
gonna have fun loses some money he loves it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
He's there every day He's cleaning things up and making the.

Speaker 8 (01:36:26):
Now, I can't relate to that. I cannot relate to
wanting to run a... But I'm glad he does. I'm
glad he does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
I did it five times.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
And after about 10 years, I said, I'm having so
much fun, I can't take it anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:36:39):
Get me the hell out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Who wants to buy? Bingo, bungo, bungo. I'm out. Thank you.
And he asked me, and I said, no.

Speaker 8 (01:36:46):
No it's all right so this is increasing i got
supply chain issues and we got you know martha doesn't
want to come into work today so then what do
we got he's got he's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Got one employee and if the one is not nice
guy apart if he doesn't show up what do you
got the door doesn't get open now what well go
down then open the door you have more than one
employee now he's got one employee.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
Is he going to get back there and start flipping burgers? Yes,
he is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
He's getting for an NIL money.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
One of the finest class action lawyers in America is
going to be flipping burgers at the City View Tavern.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
I'd bet against that, wouldn't you?

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
I would, too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
But if you're, he said, I love it.

Speaker 8 (01:37:21):
Good for him. You got to do what makes you
happy in this world.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
The view's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:25):
He can say, I own this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
This is mine.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
I'm not going to change the name. You had your places,
and Burbank had his places, and Furman. Furman had Furman's.

Speaker 8 (01:37:37):
Eddie had a bar, too. I forget what it was called.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Went out of business because he kept drinking all the beer.

Speaker 8 (01:37:43):
He drank all the beer and ran up the tab
and never paid it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I wish you guys well.

Speaker 8 (01:37:49):
Go get it. I'm glad there are people that want
to do that and enjoy doing it because I'm not
one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
I'd like to see your kids at the fireworks on Sunday.
They would be going nuts. Why don't you take them
on the top of the building with John Barrett, get
the family there, and there's the biggest fireworks.

Speaker 8 (01:38:04):
I have to call John. If he can let me
up in his suite there, then maybe. You got plans.
You got plans.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
You don't want to go. It's college football season. Thank you.
When are you getting back from your game?

Speaker 8 (01:38:16):
I'll get back, well, Georgia Saturday. I'll get back about
1 in the morning on Saturday night, which is good.

Speaker 6 (01:38:24):
You hope.

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
You can fly out of Atlanta, take all kinds of flights.
And then I'm at LSU the next week. LSU, that's
the following.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
How does that guy keep a job? That guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:38:34):
He wins football games. He just keeps moving around.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
He better win the first one against Clemson.

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
Do you agree?

Speaker 8 (01:38:38):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
That's a big one.

Speaker 8 (01:38:40):
I want him to win or else he's going to
be super irritable next week when we have to talk
to him. So, good point.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Say, give me some sports. We didn't have any last time. No.
Marty came in. Too many people.

Speaker 13 (01:38:52):
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Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
Always.

Speaker 8 (01:39:16):
A cut above.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
And also, Willie, first off, we want to say happy birthday.

Speaker 7 (01:39:21):
Willie?

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Number 97 to one of your great listeners and a
great American mother, Betty Snyder. Betty Snyder.

Speaker 8 (01:39:29):
She's 97 years old today. Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Happy birthday. Where does she live, if anywhere? Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Got Olga's 98, Buddy is 96, and she's 97.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Game two of the Reds Padres tonight, 540. Sports talk,
Arnell Carrier's inside pitch.

Speaker 13 (01:39:44):
Kelsey Chevrolet extra inning show after the game. Now, the
Reds have activated left-handed pitcher Brandon Williamson, who has been
out all season with a left shoulder fatigue.

Speaker 8 (01:39:54):
He will start tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
They've also brought up infielder Juan Brito from AAA Louisville
as the rosters expand. Shoulder fatigue.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
The Reds got him in the trade deadline from Cleveland.
How's your shoulder tired when you haven't pitched?

Speaker 8 (01:40:08):
Don't ask me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
This happened in spring training. He's been out since spring training.

Speaker 13 (01:40:13):
He's been tired for five months. Bengals update brought to
you by Midwestern Plumbing. My good friend Chris Wilson, commercial
plumbing experts since 1978. The Bengals signing quarterback Josh Johnson
and tight end Tanner Hudson. and four others to the
practice squad. They're now at the 16-player limit.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Wide receiver Jamar Chase with his knee limited in practice
this week. Tee Higgins with a heel contusion. He's also limited.

Speaker 8 (01:40:38):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
You're going too quickly. Talk to me about Jamar.

Speaker 8 (01:40:41):
Everything was looking great. He didn't hurt his knee. It
was fine. It was fine. He's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
He's got a ligament damage?

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:40:49):
What has he got? He's going to be fine.

Speaker 9 (01:40:51):
Relax.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
I don't like hearing this.

Speaker 7 (01:40:54):
Oh, shut up.

Speaker 8 (01:40:55):
They don't play for another week and a half. I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
I don't like hearing about knee contusions and my foot hurts,
my shoulder hurts.

Speaker 8 (01:41:01):
You need a contusion.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Everybody's hurt. I got a contusion to my thumb right there.
Maybe I can't talk. I got a thumb contusion.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
How'd you get that?

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
Golfing?

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Can't say.

Speaker 8 (01:41:11):
Did it involve something with Sheree?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Can't say. All I can say is can't say. Now,
what's on the big show today? You've got lots of
stuff going on.

Speaker 8 (01:41:19):
We've got Jay Ratliff right out of the gate going
to discuss a British airline carrier is allowing people to
make phone calls on airplanes.

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 9 (01:41:29):
Oh, no.

Speaker 8 (01:41:30):
So is it coming to America?

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
I have not.

Speaker 8 (01:41:32):
We will ask him about it. I don't mind maybe texting,
but no phone calls, please. We have a 4 o'clock
guest going to talk about old people are smoking a
lot of weed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
I talked to Marty Brennan about it. Marty's not smoking weed.

Speaker 7 (01:41:44):
He's not?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Are you smoking weed?

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
I'm not smoking weed. I'd take none of that.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
And then, at 5 o'clock, we have the pride of
700 WLW, Dave Yiddy Armbruster.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:41:55):
He's going to go into the Reds' People Behind the
Scenes Hall of Fame. He's been with the Reds 34 years,
I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
He said he's playing the 17th hole. He's got one
more hole to play.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
Good.

Speaker 8 (01:42:04):
Well, we're excited to have Yid on to talk about
that and all of his broadcasting exploits. And that'll be
at 5 o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Seg, your reaction?

Speaker 8 (01:42:12):
Congrats to you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
I need some more. Tell me again about Jamar Chase's
knee problem now.

Speaker 8 (01:42:16):
He's kind of slid that in, Seg. He had the
knee last week in practice.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
I know that, but what did you just say? He's
limited in practice. They're getting the knee better.

Speaker 8 (01:42:24):
Goof.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
What about T.

Speaker 9 (01:42:26):
Higgins?

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
I don't know where the heel contusion came from.

Speaker 8 (01:42:29):
Maybe he was dancing over the weekend. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Doing the two-step with... Limited also in practice. They'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Relax.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
Oh, be quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
What do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
I do know.

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
Are you a doctor?

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
It all begins with me. No, he's fine. Then all
of a sudden, he's got major reconstructive surgery. He's out
for a year. One with Williamson had a tired shoulder
in March. Now this is September, and he's back. My
shoulder's not tired anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
You've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 6 (01:42:58):
Just saying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
I'm just saying. Any hope for the Reds, Rock?

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Not this year, but we'll get them next year. What
about Elsa Langley?

Speaker 8 (01:43:07):
Oh, Ella Langley?

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Yeah, her too. That's her sister. I used to date her,
you know. That's a different story. Did you ask her
to do the same thing you wanted to do with Cherie?

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Maybe the two-step. I'll do the two-step.

Speaker 8 (01:43:21):
And get a heel contusion?

Speaker 9 (01:43:22):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
I mean, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (01:43:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
You read that as if it's no big deal. That
could be a big deal. They'll both be fine. Zach
Taylor said they're both going to be fine. That's even
worse when the coach says. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
It's like a vote of no confidence. Or a vote
of complete confidence. They have no confidence. Do you have
any hope they're safe for the Bengals?

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
They're the eighth best team in the NFL, according to
the ESPN experts.

Speaker 8 (01:43:45):
What do they know?

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Is that correct, Rock? They're the eighth best team?

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (01:43:48):
And they're going to finish second to the Ravens, supposedly.
So we'll see what happens. This only interests me because
I have Georgia this week, but one of their defensive
tackles just retired today or yesterday on social media. A
college player retired? Yeah, he just said, I'm done playing.
He's like a starting defensive tackle for Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
He said, I'm going to retire with my 401K. I
wonder how much NIO he's giving up.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
The Browns are transferring players to LSU. Is that guy
going to play for LSU, by the way, from the Browns?

Speaker 8 (01:44:23):
Lane Kiffin's going to push for it. I don't blame Lane.
It's his job to assemble the best team he can
and dip his toe over the line. It's up to
other responsible people to tell him no.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Because if the Bengals release somebody, they could play for Georgia,
the University of, correct?

Speaker 8 (01:44:40):
Well, the SEC has come out and been against it.
A judge said that's wrong. There we go again, another judge.
Some district that no one's ever heard of. He thinks
it's okay, so the whole country is held hostage. Psych man,
get me out of the Stooges report.

Speaker 13 (01:44:54):
Willie, in honor of a hot day here at a tri-state,
you need a 10-star quality you can feel. We leave
you with the immortal words of the Stooges report.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Always good to be with you, Bill.

Speaker 8 (01:45:05):
See you later.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Is he going to campaign with Vivek Ramaswamy?

Speaker 8 (01:45:08):
Is he going to campaign with Amy Atkin?

Speaker 7 (01:45:11):
What the?

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:45:13):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
I have my doubts.

Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
What do you say? I don't think he'll do that. Well,
he endorsed.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
The governor endorsed Vivek on 700 WLW.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Thank you.

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