9-3-26 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Debbie Culberson about the murder of her daughter. Also Michael Levine describes what life would look like under Democrat rule. Finally James Hirsen breaks down how modern politics could affect 9/11 memorials next week.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Welcome to Thursday
afternoon in the Tri-State. Reds baseball off today. Have three
big games against Milwaukee here at my ballpark, the Great American,
and out to L.A. And we'll see what happens down
the road. The Reds need to win basically the next
21 games in a row, and then they have a sniff.

(00:23):
But assuming that doesn't happen, getting ready for the Bengals
and so much more. Going back in time some 30
years ago, The community around southwest Ohio, especially in and
around Blanchester, were were incaptured by the circumstances involving the
murder of of Kerry Culberson, only 22 years old. And
the person responsible for that was a guy named Vincent

(00:46):
Doan and others who were accessories after the fact, including
the chief of police of Blanchester. The chief of police
of Blanchester, his name was Richard Payton, was criminally charged
and convicted of accessory after the fact. seemingly hiding the
body or other evidence involving the murder of Carrie Culverson.
Joining you and I now is Debbie Culverson, the mother

(01:07):
of Carrie Culverson. And Debbie, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. We talked some 30 years ago. And number one,
I can't believe it's been 30 years. There's a song
by a country artist that talks about don't blink. You're
going to miss your life. And I think the last
30 years have flown by literally. Have they flown by
for you?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes. It's hard for me to believe that it's been
30 years without any answers. But, you know, we still
keep going and, you know, reaching out to whomever may
have information. You know, we don't quit looking. We don't
stop looking, I should say.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Let's go back in time as a mother. How did
your daughter, Carrie Culverson, actually meet Vince Doan? How did
that meeting take place, the first one?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, initially they went to school together. I believe he
was a year or two ahead of her. But when
Carrie came and told me that she was going to go,
she and a bunch of friends were going to go
visit Vince Doan. Well, he was in jail at the
time for shooting his best friend over his girlfriend. He

(02:21):
shot his best friend like three times in the face.
But charges were never filed because the family bought him off.
They bought the boy a card. So there was never
any charges.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
In fact, to put a sharper point on that, this
Finstone at this point would have been like 18, 19
years old. And he was actually in jail when your daughter,
Carrie Culberson, first met him. He was in jail for
attempted murder in which he shot his then best friend
in the face over a girlfriend. And the charges of
shooting his friend were reduced to a smaller sentence. He

(03:00):
was released from jail. And then your daughter began dating
him seriously. Did you have reservations about that at the time?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yes. I did everything to prevent it. But, you know,
when you have children, the more you say to them
about something, the more they're going to latch on to it. So,
you know, she.
She just continued to see.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And during that time, before her murder, the end of
August of 1996, were there incidences where Vince Stone would, uh,
commit acts of DV and beat up your daughter? And
that there was evidence of that before the murder?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Numerous incidents. Um, Whenever they worked together, he would always
call to see where she was at. If he couldn't
reach her, he'd become angry. And he'd go to where
she was supposed to be, just like when she was
at work. If she didn't answer her phone, he'd go
up there to where she worked and stand outside. And

(04:08):
she would go out there, and the girls within the
salon witnessed her being abused out in her parking lot.
She came home. many times with bruises and, and, you know,
scratches on her face. And I would question her about it.
And in the beginning, she didn't tell me the truth.

(04:30):
You know, it was an accident. Like she got up
one morning in November of 95 and she had scratches,
three scratches on both sides of her face. And I said, Carrie,
what happened? Well, I had a bad dream and I
scratched myself. Well, I said, Carrie, you know, I don't

(04:52):
believe that. What happened? So she finally did tell me
that Vince had, they were fighting and he held his
hand over her mouth and her nose and she couldn't breathe.
So she was trying to pull his hands away from
her mouth. And in doing so, she broke off her
artificial nails on her face.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
During these incidents, I know as a mother, just you
had to be in complete pain about what was happening
to your daughter. And did she ever see criminal charges
against him before he murdered her? Did you or she
ever go to the police and say, I can't live
like this anymore?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, it was several months later. It was.
When did she do that? Oh, it was after the
space heater incident. She had gone to his house to
tell him that she was going to go to a

(05:56):
Tupperware party or something such as that. Well, he wanted
to go and Carrie said, don't be stupid. You don't
want to go to a girl party. Well, he said,
I'll show you stupid. So he picked up a space
heater and started hitting either side of the wall. And
then he hit her, which caused her to get five
to eight staples, I don't even remember, in her head.

(06:17):
So she came home and told me what happened. So
I called the live squad, and we took her to
the hospital. And I told her, Terri, I said, you've
got to do something about this. It's not going to stop.
So on the way from bringing her home from the hospital,

(06:38):
we stopped at Vince's mom's house and told her that
we were getting ready to press charges. And so we
went to the police station and, um, we pressed charges. Um,
so that was, you know, that was in effect. And
at the time of she, at the time she disappeared also,

(07:00):
but after she disappeared, um, her, um, judgment or her
case came before the judge and we had to drop
it because Terry was unable to appear. because she was missing.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Clinton County prosecutors reports show that to Carrie went to
a local hospital seeking treatment for head injuries. The incident
caused Carrie to need seven staples to her skull to
close the gas on the back of her head. And
so that incident caused by Vincent Doan was the precipitating
factor that caused her murder. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Now let's go to, let's go to the day, August 3rd,
It was about 1130 a.m. the 28th, the 29th, and
the 30th of August. Can you walk us through when
Carrie was missing and you knew something was seriously wrong?
How were you notified?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, we weren't notified. You know, with Carrie going through
all this DV with Vance, I got to the point
where I had to be very harsh. I said, Carrie,
if you want to be with Vince so much, I
want you to pack your bags and go move in
with him. She says, no, I don't want to do that.

(08:20):
I don't want to do that. I said, okay, then
these are the rules. If you're not going to come home,
you are going to call me and let me know
where you're at and when you'll be home. And so
I said, otherwise, midnight, the door is going to be locked.
And I know that sounds harsh. Sometimes you have to

(08:40):
do stuff like that in order to get their attention.
So she agreed to that. And after that time, every
time she was going to be late, she'd call and
let me know. If she wasn't going to come home,
she'd call and let me know. On the morning of

(09:00):
Carrie's disappearance, which was the 28th of August, I got
up to get ready for work. And I always have
to walk past the girls' room. And I always looked in.
And Carrie and Christina shared a bed because we lived
in a small two-bedroom home. So I woke Christina and said,
have you heard anything from Carrie? She says, no. Did

(09:24):
she call or anything?

Speaker 8 (09:25):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I went to the front door and looked out.
her car was gone, which had been parked up in
the yard the night before when she went to a
volleyball game. I said, okay, well, I'm going to get
ready and go look for Carrie. I need you to
get ready for school and I'll drop you off. She said, no,
I'm going with you. So we got ready and we

(09:49):
went to look for the girls who Carrie played volleyball with. Well,
one girl says, well, Jessica dropped her off at 1130
that night. And I said, well, she didn't come in.
So we went to see Jessica and she told me
the same thing, that Jessica didn't watch for her to
come into the house, which kids, that's the way kids are.

(10:11):
So that's when we started our search. We left there
and In the meantime, Tanya had said, well, Carrie told
me something and she swore me to secrecy. Well, the
Monday before her disappearance, which was the 25th of August,
she told Tanya that she and Vince had gone out
to eat. And instead of going to get dinner, Vince

(10:35):
went down this road, pulled off the side road, got
out of the car and got into the trunk and
he pulled out a gun. So he held Carrie at
gunpoint for five and a half hours until she says,
then let me call my mom and tell her that,
you know, I'll be home late. And then when I

(10:58):
go home, she says, let me go home and tell
my mom that I'm going to be late. So she
came in and told me, well, I was in bed, so...
The phone rang as soon as you got home around
midnight and he always called to make sure she came
straight home. Well, apparently, you know, I was asleep the

(11:21):
next morning, which was Tuesday morning. I got up and
Terry was sitting up on the couch, sound asleep, and
she had a butcher knife in her lap.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
A butcher knife in her lap.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes. So I said, Terry, what's going on? She said
that Vince had Called her and asked her if she
was going to come back over there that night. She said, no, Vince,
you really scared me this time, you know, by holding
her at gunpoint. He said, well, that's okay. I'll just

(11:53):
come over and kill you and your whole family. So
that's why she was sitting up with a butcher knife
in her lap, sound asleep. So that was the beginning
of our nightmare, excuse me, which was August 25th.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
It was 26th.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
He chased Carrie and her sister all over town. Uh,
if he seen Carrie out, he'd chase her. They came home,
jumped over some bushes, got in the house and locked
the doors. So it was just, uh, just horrible. And
then when she played volleyball, she got away and he
came over to the volleyball game, wanted her to leave

(12:34):
with him. And she wouldn't, she told him that she
was a designated driver. So, um, He got angry and
left and peeled out. So when Jessica dropped her off
that evening, I feel that Vince was waiting outside in
our yard for her to come home because he only

(12:55):
lived a street over and he could walk there easy enough.
So I feel like he took her out of our
yard in her car. And again, I didn't know anything
about this happening until the next day when She wasn't home.
So about 10 o'clock the 28th, I went to the

(13:16):
police station to make a report. And I made the
report with Richard Payton, which only amounted to about a paragraph.
He got up from the table and went and called
Lawrence Baker, who has been Stone's dad. And, you know,
then our search continued.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Let's stop right there at that point because we'll take
a break. Then we're going to come back. So at
this point, she has gone through a living hell for
the last three years of her life. She's only 22
years old at this point. Beaten on a regular basis,
staples in her skull. And when the heater was used
to bash her skull in, there was a real concern

(13:56):
that this time would be the last time and that
there was a concern that on Vince Doan's part that
I got to do something. He has shot people before
in the face and he got out of it for
some ungodly reason. And so at this point, that's the
last time you saw your daughter, Carrie Culberson, alive was
when she had the butcher knife.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
In her lap?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, it was the next day when she left to
go to the same volleyball game with her friends. They
came and picked her up. And, of course, you know,
we always hug and say I love you. but I
was telling her friends as they walked out the door,
I said, please look out for Carrie. Something's going on

(14:40):
between her and Vince, and they both said, we will.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And you reached out to Chief Richard Payton. He was
the chief of police of Blanchester, Ohio. You reached out
to him for help, and numerous times you reached out
to law enforcement for help on DV, and it was
never taken seriously, and you tried to get Carrie away
from him, Vincent Doan, but that turned out to be
darn near impossible. It just wasn't going to be in

(15:07):
the cards. And then for some reason, she broke off finally,
and that's when the rifle incident took place with him
holding her hostage. By itself, that's a serious felony. And
at that point, the law enforcement had to intervene, and
they did not. Well, let's take a short break. We'll continue.
Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW. Well, let's continue now with

(15:30):
the story of Carrie Culverson that was murdered by Vincent
Doan and the accessories after the fact are another complete
story by itself. And the lake, the body in the lake,
the bloodhounds indicating there's a cadaver there, etc. Let's pick
it up from that point on. Joining us again is
Debbie Culverson, who is the mother of Carrie Culverson. And

(15:52):
we left it with a point the last time she
saw Carrie Culverson alive. So, Debbie, let's continue now with
the story. And at this point, can you talk about
a mother's agony and a mother's heart at this point
when you know something serious has happened? I think she
was driving a red Honda, if memory serves me correctly,
from 30 years ago. And the car was never located,
nor was your daughter's body ever found. So take us

(16:14):
from the point the last time you saw her alive
and what happened the next day or two. Well, we.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I made the report with the chief of police. Well, initially,
we had gone out at 7 o'clock in the morning
and started our search for Kerry. We went over to Vince's,
and he wasn't there. Kerry's car nor Vince's car was there.
So we just started searching, and then 10 o'clock, we

(16:42):
came back into town. Well, actually, we went out to
the junkyard and was out there looking around because that's
where Um, he had held her at gunpoint was out
there at the junkyard at the end. So we went
out there and we didn't see anything out there and
we looked around a little bit. Um, but then we
came back into town, made the report with the chief
of police. Um, and then from that point on, we

(17:06):
just continued our search. I went to me and the
three girls, me, Tanya, and, um, Jessica went to Vince's
house again. And we didn't see anything, but we got
out of the car and we picked up sticks and
stuff and walked up to the door and knocked on

(17:27):
the door, no answer. But the door was unlocked. So
I opened the door and we walked in, but we
were all too afraid to go any further. So we
just turned around and left there. And again, Vince wasn't there.
So we drove just right up the road. where his

(17:48):
dad lived, and there stood Vince, his brother, and his
dad standing at the back of the wrecker in a conversation.
So I got out and I called Vince to where
I was standing. I said, Vince, have you seen Carrie?
She hasn't come home. I haven't seen her. You know,
she hasn't come home yet. He says, no, ma'am, I
haven't seen her for three days. I said, well, if
you happen to see her or hear anything from her,

(18:09):
let her know that we're looking for her. So I
walked back to the car and You know, I know
that he was involved, but I was telling the girls
what he had said, and they said, well, that's a lie.
He was at the volleyball game last night, wanting her
to leave. I said, okay, well, let's, you know, just,
you know, keep looking. So, again, we continued our search,

(18:34):
and again, I went back a second time, and they
were still standing out the back of the wrecker, talking.
I said, Vince, you know, we looked everywhere. I can't
find her. Do you have any place where we might
go look for her or anything? Is there anything you know?

Speaker 9 (18:53):
No, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
She stopped by last night and wanted me to go
out drinking with her. And he said he didn't want
to because he had to go to work.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Long and short, let's kind of move this story along
to the pond because at this point, explain about the pond,
which is likely where Vincent Doan put the body of
Carrie Culberson, your daughter. Explain about the pawn and how
this is how Chief Payton got involved with accessory after
the fact. Explain that circumstance.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Sure. That happened. It was Labor Day weekend. Deputy came
to get a T-shirt from me. He had a bloodhound
and he worked for Claremont County Sheriff's Department. He said,
I need something to had Carrie sent on us why
what's going on he says well we're searching the junkyard

(19:48):
but they told me to stay away. Well, I did.
But they went down there and they took the bloodhound
in and the bloodhound had hit at the back of
the door because there was blood. They continued a grid
search and went out to the pond. They followed the
scent out to the pond. So the Claremont County detective

(20:11):
pulled the dog off of there, and they brought in Gracie,
who was a cadaver dog, also from Claremont County, and
started the grid search. It, too, hit on the back
of the trailer with the bloody handprint and pulled off
the grid search and headed to the pond. They had
him in the boat, and the dog was so agitated

(20:35):
that it had the boat in motion because she was
trying to get out. So, uh, Loretta poured, pulled her
dog off. They went to the road and told Chief
Payton what was happening. Well, Chief Payton says, well, your
service and are longer needed. You go ahead and go
and we'll take care of it. So all of the

(20:58):
detects are all the law enforcement left. They said, are
you sure you don't want us to stay and watch
the pond? He says, no, go ahead. And, um, you know, leave.
So what happened was Chief Payton did not secure the pond,
which allowed this family to come in and take whatever
it was in that pond, whether it be carry, any

(21:19):
part of carry, the weapons or clothing, we don't know.
But the next day, I called the prosecutor and I
asked him, I says, what did you find out at
the pond? He says, I don't know what you're talking about.
So I told him what had transpired the day before.
So the chief or the prosecutor set up his own search.

(21:41):
So when they went out to the pond, he had
the pond drained and what they found were footprints going
into the pond and footprints coming out. And there was
mud all over the weeds and that had not been
there that day. So that is how the chief of
police became indicted because he allowed this family to come

(22:02):
in and take whatever was in there out.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know, one might ask, why would an officer, a
Chief Richard Payton, he was indicted and convicted of accessory
after the fact, and he went to prison. Why in
the world would a police chief assist? And after the
murder of your daughter, what was the motivation for the
chief of police to assist the Doan family? What was that?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Um, this family has been the record service for the
village of Blanchester, and Richard Payton was part of that
good old boy network, and I don't know why he
wanted to protect that family. I have no clue, because
Richard Payton and I grew up together, and so when

(22:50):
I went to him with the disappearance of my daughter,
I thought I would have gotten so much more from
him than what I did.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Debbie Culverson, what do you think happened? Can you, based
on everything you know, it's been 30 years almost to
the day. What happened, from the best evidence you know,
and you follow this thing for the three decades, what
do you think happened to Carrie Culverson and how did
it happen?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I think that Vince got upset because Carrie wouldn't leave
with him that night. So he was waiting for her and, um,
he picked her up. They got into a fight and
he was seen beating her in front of a neighbor.
And he, he was chasing her. They heard Carrie screaming,

(23:40):
help me. He was chasing her. She tripped in a hole.
He jerked her up and turned around, punched her in
the face. And I told, said, I, um, I told
you that the next time you do this, you F-N-B-I-T-C-H,
I would kill you. So the one that witnessed, she
went to get her husband. When she got back, you know,

(24:01):
they were both gone. So I feel like Vince took
her back to the junkyard or someplace, continued to beat her.
And I think he beat her to the point where
I think he knew she wasn't going to recover. So
he went and got his brother Tracy out of bed.
And when he got to Tracy's house, he was knocked
on the back door. He had nothing on but a

(24:22):
pair of jeans, and he was covered in blood. So
he asked Tracy's wife if he was home. She said yes.
So Vince went to the bedroom where Tracy was. He
got cleaned up, found fresh clothes. Tracy went to the kitchen,
got seven trash bags and a gun, and they left.
They came back, and they both were covered in blood.

Speaker 8 (24:44):
And....

Speaker 2 (24:47):
They both left for their respective jobs at that point.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Did they put the body in the pond?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know. Something had to have been there. Like
I said, something led both of those dogs to that pond.
So it had to be Carrie. There was a barrel
in the pond. I don't know if she was in
that barrel.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I don't know. Right.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, at this point, here we are 30 years later,
Vincent Doan, the perpetrator, serving a life sentence without possibility
of parole. Who else was convicted other than Vincent Doan,
the murderer, after the fact?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
His brother, Tracy, was indicted, and he received eight years
for tampering with evidence and, gosh, a couple of things.
He was also charged, indicted on abuse of a corpse,
but they couldn't charge him with that because they have
no corpse. So he received eight years, and he served

(25:53):
his eight years. The chief of police was indicted, and
they made a plea agreement with him, which I did
not agree with, but, you know, that's what happened. Then
his father was indicted for giving Vince an alibi.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
So.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
He went to trial and was found not guilty, but
the jurors soon realized they made a mistake, but it
was too late. And then we had the federal trial.
So we went through five trials.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
And at the end of the day, the only one
still in prison is Vincent Doan, the murderer. And by
the way, I would note that according to media accounts,
two weeks after he murdered Carrie Culberson, He moved in
another girlfriend. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes. And he was seen before Carrie even disappeared because
people would tell me after Carrie disappeared that they seen
him with this girl. And they thought it was Carrie
because she looked from a distance. She looked like Carrie,
had the long dark hair and thin like Carrie. So
she looked enough like Carrie from a distance that even

(27:06):
Carrie's dad thought it was her.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Well, lastly, Debbie Culberson, what's in your heart now, 30
years later, of having a daughter, a beautiful daughter, murdered
by Vincent Doan and what you went through with her
and the beatings and the bruises and the cuts and
the staples in her head and then ultimately the rifle
and the garbage bags and the blood everywhere? Do you

(27:32):
have closure in this thing at all?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You know, you deal with a lot of guilt because
you think of what more I could have done. You know,
I tried to get her to leave, but she wouldn't
do that because she said she wanted to be there
for her sister to go through all the high school
drama and stuff. And so she wouldn't leave. And I

(28:01):
feel guilt because I did not, could not, or did
not do enough to save her life. So, you know,
I live with that. But I also know that she's
not going to come home because Carrie would never just
leave and let us go through this. And Carrie would
never leave Christina for any amount of time because if

(28:26):
Carrie loved anybody, she loved her little sister.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Now, Vincent Doan is looking for the murderer of Carrie
Culberson the same way O.J. Simpson was looking for the
murderer of his wife in those sand traps. Well, I
would say this. It's an incredible story. It's been nationwide. Now,
30 years later, you're left, and according to media accounts,
you received a civil judgment of the family of about

(28:50):
$ 3. 5 million from the city of Lanchester. Were those monies
ever paid?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yes, but we settled for $ 2 million, which sounds like
a lot, but people don't realize the financial drain of
having a missing child, you know? So, but yes, it was,
it was settled for 2 million.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
All right.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Uh, well, and where's Richard Payton now, the chief of
police of Lanchester, who was more or less an accessory
after the fact, is he still, still alive or has
he met his maker?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
As far as I know, he's still alive. He was
in Florida teaching criminal justice. Imagine that, uh, But he
is no longer allowed to be a police officer anymore.
I don't know if he's moved back to Ohio or not.
I have not kept up on him.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, Debbie, may you find peace in this world or
the next. And it's a terrible story. And I know
you have a sense of guilt. for what you could
have done, should have done, might have done as a
loving mother. You did everything that could be done to
save your daughter's life, but she was so infatuated with
him or has such a horrible image of herself that
she permitted herself to be beaten regularly by, by this

(30:08):
vicious criminal. And that's not on your side of the ledger.
And I'm not going to blame Carrie Culberson whatsoever for
what happened to her. There are many other women have
walked down that same path and she did not survive. But, uh, Debbie, uh,
once again, thanks for coming on the bill Cunningham show. And, uh,
I'll often like to say, well, we'll do it again,
but I'm not sure we will. But I would say

(30:29):
on behalf of me and all my listeners, I hope
you can find peace.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, I hope to find Carrie before I leave this world.
So that will be my peace.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Find her in this world or the next. And Debbie Culberson,
thank you very much. God bless you. Let's continue. Thank you, Debbie.
God bless you. Let's continue with more. And in the
last 30 years, there's been a metamorphosis when it comes
to treating domestic violence victims. And 30 years ago, it
was a little bit more difficult for women, generally women,
beat up by men repeatedly to get justice. And Debbie

(31:06):
tried like crazy to get it done. She went to
law enforcement. And the person she went to in law enforcement,
Richard Payton, was ultimately charged with crimes himself in the cover-up.
So we'll see what happens down the road. Bill Cunningham,
NewsRadio 700, WLW. Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course,

(31:30):
Michael Levine has been the PR director of Michael Jackson
through Charlton Heston, author of the new book, Authentic PR.
This guy who's been around for a long time knows
how PR should work for companies, for nations, and for persons.
He can be found, of course, at MichaelLevineConsulting.com. He's also
the founder of Boundless Media USA. And Michael Levine, welcome

(31:52):
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. I have your column
up about the status of food trucks in L.A., but
before we get there, I want to probe your mind
in some other area. Would that be okay?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Of course. Of course.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I'm honored to be with you, dear friend. Let's talk.
I'm reading this story, one story out of Germany, another
story out of Japan. And I'm reading these stories about
how great the American economy is. And we don't get
this from our media. Everything that happens in America is
a disaster because eggs used to be about $ 12 a dozen.

(32:26):
Now they're $ 1. 50. And beef used to be inexpensive. Then
it got expensive. Now it's going to be inexpensive again
because Trump has changed the rules about ranchers processing their
own beef. And so the media angle on, for example,
the hamburgers and the beef is, They go to the
ranchers who may be affected by this negatively by getting
lower prices for their beef, and that's a disaster. They

(32:47):
don't go to consumers and talk about, Tony Bender, would
you like to spend less money if you're a double cheeseburger?
The media goes to the persons whose ox not being gored.
And so the German newspapers are saying the following about
our economy. Number one, 96% or more of the media
reports on Donald Trump Republicans are negative. But from the
German perspective, They are jealous of our economy. They call

(33:11):
it the greatest economy in the world right now, the
American economy. They talk about job creation. They talk about
the fact that we have 5 million open jobs and
8 million people that refuse to work. They talk about
the fact the stock market is at an all-time high.
They're jealous of our inflation rate. Over in Germany, it's
about 8% here. It's about 3%. They're jealous about our

(33:33):
manufacturing base. In Western Europe, you can't put up a factory.
It's impossible because of their green energy demands. But America
is an industrial powerhouse. The Trumps are going to return
to America over the next one to three years about
$ 4 trillion of new manufacturing jobs. We have data centers
here that are not in Europe. The data centers put

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to work about 6,000 construction workers annually. And they pay
high school kids $ 135, 000 a year to work in and
around these data centers. And they also talk about the
green energy that's not taken over America yet. They don't
have coal-fired power plants, don't have much nuclear plants. Energy
costs are through the roof. There's little job creation in Europe.

(34:16):
And the same thing in Japan. Japan's a basket case.
Right now, and China, they tell me, have a terrible economy,
as does most of Europe or India. And so from
the European perspective, the GDP of America is about $ 31 trillion.
I'm going to share with you one fact, Michael Levine.
In 2010, America and the EU had about the same GDP.

(34:39):
Here we are 16 years later, and we have... 30%
more GDP than Europe, and they have more people. The
Indian GDP is about a quarter of ours, and they
have four times the number of people. China is in
economic trouble, I'm being told. We don't get much reported
out of there, of course, at all. So from the
European and Asian perspective, the American economy is the envy

(35:01):
of the world. Why don't we perceive that? Why can't
we perceive reality in America?

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Well, because people like bad news.

Speaker 10 (35:12):
People, I.

Speaker 9 (35:15):
Shouldn't say they like bad news, they buy bad news.
We live in a world in which the media is
in the business of trying to attract clicks and And attention,
it's a dying business. And so the only way they
can do it is by trying to convince Americans that

(35:40):
every single hour of our life is a greater catastrophe
than the last hour. Breaking news, breaking news.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Today we are going to die.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
An hour later, breaking news, breaking news, the monster is
at the door. An hour later, breaking news, breaking news,
Godzilla is here.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Now, that does.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
Not mean that there aren't challenges to the average American.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
There are.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Food prices are too high. You walk into a fast
food restaurant today, a McDonald's, right? It's a very common
American experience. And damn it, the food prices are too
high to buy a Big Mac and a soda and

(36:38):
fries today. is not uh... what it used to be
a a very reasonably priced endeavor it's expensive it's too
hard but that doesn't deny the many many many things
you said about the strength of the american economy prick

(36:59):
typically when you compare it to other parts of the
world you know people who complain about america uh.
Have their language and their little stories and songs. And
some of the things are true and some are exaggerated.
But then I say to them, really fascinating, where else

(37:19):
would you like to go or live?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, it's expensive here to live, but it's much more
expensive to live in other nations against we benchmark. And
much more expensive.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Right.

Speaker 9 (37:32):
And the quality of life is, That, you know, our
power does not go out in most American cities every month.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Try living in Europe, right?

Speaker 9 (37:44):
This summer, they had a great heat wave, right? 90%
of people in England, 90, 90, have no air conditioning.
That means even if you're an affluent person in England,
let's say you're living in London, you're an affluent person, 90%. Now,
how would you like to live through a summer heat

(38:06):
wave without air conditioning?

Speaker 8 (38:09):
No.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
I know lower middle class people in America who live
in apartments that have air conditioning. So, you know, I
think perspective is important. On the other hand, there is
some validity to hype. Gas prices are too damn high
in California. I'll tell you right now, we got $ 6

(38:30):
gas prices. Now, why do we have $ 6 gas prices?
Because our damn government in California puts on massive taxes
and regulations. There isn't $ 6 gas prices in South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, not here.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
There isn't $ 6.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
Right. What are your gas prices, son?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I filled up my Chevy Blazer last night. It got
to empty. The little buzzer came on. I pulled into
a UDF store, and it was $ 3. 49 a gallon.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
Now, $ 3. 49.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
$ 6.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
25 in California.

Speaker 9 (39:10):
Is that the fault of Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Absolutely. Absolutely. That's his fault. Absolutely. Absolutely. He did that.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Yeah. And by the way, that is that is another
good point you're making. People, for some sad. Actually, pathetic reason.
love become addicted to blaming little and blaming people for
their lot right this is a terrible American problem it's

(39:41):
a greater problem in that we belittle and blame people
for our destiny than it is that we pay too
much at McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Michael, who do we benchmark against? Whatever country you benchmark against,
the poor in America live about the level of middle-class
Europeans against whom we might benchmark. And the biggest health
problem with poor Americans is obesity. It's not hunger.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
And so in California, when the average cost of gasoline
across the country is like four dollars a gallon or
four fifty, it's only because you put into the mix
the blue states that have five and six dollar and
eight dollar for diesel. But the media doesn't tell you
the policies of the Democrat Party is what's driving high
fuel prices. And if they completely take over, I'll be

(40:34):
paying six dollars a gallon in Ohio for gasoline. We're
right now I'm paying three forty nine. And they want
to get rid of fracking, get rid of coal, get
rid of nuclear. And we live by windmills and by
solar panels. And we can't do that. But the media
doesn't tell the truth. And I fear that people base
their vote upon lies and perceptions instead of reality. You

(40:55):
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 (40:58):
I wish I could disagree with one word you said. Now, look,
let's establish one thing very clearly. If you cannot figure
out that most media in America, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR,
National Public Radio could be the worst, Associated Press, Reuters,

(41:21):
if you can't figure out that all of these people,
Without exception, CNN, MSN Now, if you can't figure out
that every single one of them has an agenda to
help Democrats, to hurt Republicans, if you can't figure that out,
you're too stupid to vote, in my opinion. You're just

(41:44):
that dumb. Because it's true. You may say it's good.
You can say, well, that's wonderful, and that's fine. If
you take that position, it's fine. But to say that
the mainstream media in America, and I mean the New
York Times, the L.A. Times, every single major newspaper, if

(42:05):
you can't figure out 98% of the people working in
the New York Times, 98% voted for Kamala Harris. Now,
do you think that 98% of people who voted for
Kamala Harris can produce a fair, independent newspaper?

Speaker 8 (42:26):
No.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 8 (42:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, it's impossible. And I fear that objectively, this is
the greatest economy in the world, the greatest economy in
the history of the world. We don't recognize it. Garbage in,
garbage out. So if we get garbage in, garbage comes out.
And imagine Kamala Harris and Tim Walz had won. Imagine that.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
Sir, excuse me. You can't imagine it. Whatever your darkest
fears would be right now about that scenario.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Triple it. You can't.

Speaker 9 (43:04):
It is beyond imagining.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You have Kamala Harris in California. You have the same philosophy,
and I would assume, I guess, Bass is going to
win the uh... mayorship over the communist on her left
and so no one in california recognizes reality or new
york city right now kathy hopeful the governor of new
york's running around with a parka and a job and

(43:28):
i'm thinking we're going to celebrate nine eleven with kathy
hope one mom donnie in charge of new york city
the financial capital of the world in the governorship of
new york And they're sympathizing with radical leftists. Let's get
on to your column, because I could spend all day
with Michael Levine. You have a line in your column
under the date of August 31st that says the following.
This is about street food health hazards that the government

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in L.A.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Ignores.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
You say the following. The allegations reportedly include a dog
eating meat from a vendor's bag before it was served,
cockroaches crawling from a food truck, mice near open salsa,
raw meat sitting unrefrigerated in the heat, and people urinating
around cooking equipment. And there are hundreds of these so-called vendors,

(44:15):
these food truck vendors, serving food all over California. And
you're saying, what world do I live in? Is it Bangladesh?
And the L.A. County officials say they walk by as
health hazards and they do nothing.

Speaker 9 (44:28):
Why? Well, because we elect people like Karen Bez in
blue cities. These are people, my friend. that most Fortune
500 CEOs, and I know some of them, most Fortune

(44:51):
500 CEOs wouldn't hire Karen Bass to manage a Walmart.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
No, no.

Speaker 9 (45:00):
They wouldn't hire her to be a greeter at a Walmart.
These are incompetent people. They are DEI hires, if you will.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Sure.

Speaker 9 (45:12):
Right?

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Their primary attribute is the color of their skin and
the fragrance of their smile. They have no competence whatever.
I literally wouldn't hire Karen Bass to manage a pizza parlor.
She's incompetent. And then she gets into power, and who

(45:37):
does she hire? Well, she hires all her cronies and
her friends and her other DEI hires, and they can't
run a bath. They can't run a bath, no less
a city.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Brandon Johnson, Mom Donnie, I have to have pure of all,
just name them, completely incompetent. And I'm thinking, you get
the government you deserve. And there was a guy, Spencer
Pratt was running, he was somewhat competent. And by the
time they finished counting the ballots three weeks later, guess
what he lost? Well, Michael Levine.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
Isn't that fascinating?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
And I'm looking at this. And lastly, about a minute remaining,
I saw this mother who was dropping her daughter off
at USC, University of Southern California, which is a private,
expensive university. And she drove through block after block after
block on the streets and on the sidewalks, homeless encampments
with open fires, public fires. deprecation, urination. And she says,

(46:31):
right across the street from my private university are thousands
of drunks and derelicts and drug abusers getting their drugs
from the city government. And she says, what is this?

Speaker 9 (46:42):
It's all accurate. It is all accurate, 100% accurate.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I've been there. I go downtown.

Speaker 9 (46:50):
And it goes on, not for a block or two
or three or four or ten years, It goes on
for miles. You look at it. You can't believe it.
You think, no, this is not possible.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
No, not possible. But it's not only possible, it's happening
in front of, and the cops drive by in their
marked cars watching IV drug users, watching public fornication, urinating
around the food trucks, and they do nothing, and Karen
Baskin is going to get reelected. She gets the message,

(47:26):
it's okay. This is what the people want.

Speaker 9 (47:30):
And Karen Batch, as incompetent as she is, and I
told you I wouldn't hire her to run a pizza parlor,
is better, better than the idiot running against her, this socialist,
insane person who wants to defund the police and abolish ICE.

(47:50):
You cannot make it up. It's as if we're living
through a Saturday Night Live skit.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Michael Levine, consulting.com. New book is Authentic PR. Michael, you're
great at this. All we can do is here in
the red states, I'm in a blue city in a
red state. At least when you have blue cities run
by incompetent fools, you have a red governor saying you
can't do that. When you're in a blue city in
a blue state like Brandon Johnson in Chicago.

Speaker 9 (48:17):
It's suicidal.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
You're done.

Speaker 9 (48:21):
You're living on the Titanic.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Michael Levine, you're a great American. Once again, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're sounding the alarm,
and hopefully people will listen. Michael Levine, you're great. God
bless you. Thanks, Bill. Bye. Let's continue. That is what's
coming to America if this philosophy wins nationally again. Look
what the damage done by Joe Biden in just four years.

(48:46):
Imagine that philosophy for the next eight to 12 years.
Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW. Goodbyes only, guys.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Hello.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Hello. Hello.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Quiet, numbskulls. I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
Go for it, you bonehead.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
All right. It appears Geno Suarez is now a U.S.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Citizen.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
That's correct.

Speaker 7 (49:12):
He passed his citizenship test in Miami the other day.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Maybe I should ask you some questions. Goodbyes only, guys.
on the citizenship test to see if you can maybe
you want to get him here to get him here
give you some questions well get tell him to call
me i don't he speaks english better than i speak
spanish That's for sure. Talk about the Joe Nuxall event.
You're here breathless almost. Tempstar quality you can feel, Andy Buecher.

(49:38):
It was a big day today. The 41st annual.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
You're all choked up talking about it.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You're breathless. 41st annual Joe Nuxall tournament.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
They raised a lot of money out there for scholarships
for kids. Headed to college and that. It was wonderful.
Marty was there.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
A wife, Amanda. Marty didn't play. Why didn't he play?

Speaker 7 (50:02):
I think he hurt himself doing something.

Speaker 10 (50:05):
Too hot.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
But he had the Reds coaching staff out there. Andrew
Abbott was out there. Let's see. What about Lindsey Stone?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Lindsey Stone was there. The Mrs. Andrew Abbott.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
And she was mobbed by autograph seekers and people wanted
pictures with her.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Was it the Elks again? They didn't want any pictures
of him. They wanted pictures of her. I would, too.
And then I.

Speaker 7 (50:32):
Understand that Bonnie Nuxall and you had the same government,
I guess, teacher.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
At the park. Jerry Wood. Yes. Who died about a
week ago. And I understand, was it, he was a tomb?
He walked, tomb of the unknown soldier. He was one
of the honor guard. I mean, she told me all
that today.

Speaker 7 (50:55):
One year he spent. I had no idea about that, Willie.
That is a true honor.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
From October until May, what, about six months?

Speaker 9 (51:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Basketball, then baseball. I was with that guy every day.
And he never told anyone he was an honor guard
for the Tomb of the Unknown. Is that right? Yes,
he never told anybody. I mean, that's like the honor.
I asked him at a Deer Park function, you know,
hold on. Is this John Barrett? It's not.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's his assistant.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Diane.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I was just calling to confirm.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
Okay, now wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Hold on, Diane, because I'm on the air. I thought
it was John. Let me do this. Let me call
you right back. I'm on the air, Diane. I'll call
you right back when I get off the air, okay?
God bless you. I thought I was Barrett. That was
his number one assistant, Diane.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
She told me that, Willie, and I was just, I mean,
if you didn't know it, I mean, that is one
of the greatest honors, I think, of all time, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I asked him at one of our events, and I said, Coach,
tell me about this. He said, I was selected as
the Soldier of the Year in Washington, D.C., and they
gave me the honor, 24-7 marching on the Tomb of
the Unknown. And I said, why didn't you tell anybody?
And he said, well, I'm not going to publicize my service.
I worry about the guys in the coffin, not about me.

(52:16):
It's not about me. And that's Jerry Wood. And so
Deer Park is somehow going to honor Jerry Wood at
some point in the future. Yes. And I would like to,
you know, he's got all full military and all that kind.
He was simply a coach and a teacher, Jerry Wood.
And he gave his life to public education and to
coaching people like me.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
And I was just one of thousands of boys that
benefited from his leadership. There you go. Now, hold on.
We've got another great American here. Segment, hold on.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
He's the coach of the fourth best team in the world, Willie,
in baseball.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
He's the Tito Francona. That's correct. Ray Nickting, congratulations on
what you've done in the boys of Hamilton. How do
you feel now? Number two in the nation, number four
in the world. That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Pretty impressive run wasn't it i just very proud of
the way my kids battled through all that.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And to get through it i mean look at the
games they played and they lost their first game to
nevada what a walk-off hit then they they had to
win five elimination games to get where they were am
i right coach.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
Yes, sir. Five eliminations.

Speaker 7 (53:29):
I mean, their backs were against the wall each and
every day, and those kids got to be proud of that.
I mean, it has to be a record.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
You know, just to be on TV that much and
to keep winning and... Having the Hamilton jumping and Bruce
Barr team, what a great feeling. Back home now, everybody's
telling me.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
How awesome it was.

Speaker 8 (53:58):
Yeah. Just good for Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I watched occasionally in the past. I watched every game.
And I thought, this is unbelievable. And next year, is
the team, do you rebuild or reload? How do the
12-year-olds look for next year? Are those boys moving on?
Is the cupboard full or bare?

Speaker 8 (54:19):
All of them, mostly all but one of those kids
move on. Most of them are all 12-year-olds. So we've
got to revamp the whole system, Billy.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Can you recruit all over the nation like nil money?
I mean, Segment wants to put up some nil money,
maybe some candy bars or whatever. How do you recruit
to get the kids to play? How does that happen?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
We're just a.

Speaker 8 (54:45):
Little old website little league. You know, you live in
our boundaries. And our boundaries grew a lot, so.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
We need all the kids in the Hamilton Fairfield area
to come to Westside Little.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
League next year and try to make that 12-year-old All-Star team.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
One of the tryouts.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
You have to actually get eight regular season games in
during the season and pretty much up to Coach Coomer
and Coach Nick King to pick the 12 best kids.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
So it's in a league, then you pick the hammers.
And then from the hammers, then you move on. Well,
I mean, do you have to live within Hamilton? Can
you recruit some kid from Michigan?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Only if he's got a four-year-old to a seven-year-old sibling.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Say that again.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
There's crazy rules that, you know, but pretty much in
our boundaries for.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
The most part.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
But our boundaries are bigger now.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, because Seg wants to put up some NIL money.
And then, Coach, I guess what?

Speaker 7 (55:55):
City Hamilton's going to come out because on Labor Day Monday,
this Monday, you're going to have the kids and everybody
in that parade. They're going to welcome you guys back
home in style.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
There's a parade going from Westside Little League down to
Markham Park and hope to.

Speaker 8 (56:15):
See a lot of people out there and.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Just a nice tribute to the way our little league
team plays.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You know, every now and then I see Fran Kona
make a mistake as the manager of the Reds. Have
you thought about maybe going into big league coaching and
maybe big league? It's all the same game. Have you
thought about managing in the major leagues, Ray Nickting?

Speaker 8 (56:38):
No. Ray was my dad, but God love him. But
I learned all my baseball from Ray Nickting.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
We wish you the best every year.

Speaker 8 (56:52):
They holler at me, Billy.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
They tell me that I went to Xavier and I
guess we had the same old coach way back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
What?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Wait a minute. What the? Joe Hawk was one of
my coaches and then Gordon Veterino. Were you with Joe Hawk?

Speaker 8 (57:09):
I played for Gordon Veterino at Xavier.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I had him in here on his 90th birthday. Were
you a catcher?

Speaker 8 (57:17):
I was the catcher.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I vaguely remember you. I remember you.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Tim.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
You're that guy.

Speaker 11 (57:22):
Tim, yes.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
It's been about 50 years. What the hell? Time flies
when you're having fun. You were that guy. You were
the catcher. I remember him now.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
I'm that guy. So, Tim, how was he pitching wiser?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
The great American.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
Did he pitch back then, or what was it?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
He had to put sponges in his catcher's mitt. I
was burning his hand. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I see.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
He said, I can't take it anymore.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Yeah. Unbelievable. Billy had some gas there, Chase.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I passed some gas, too.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
He wasn't at the game with Delta State, was he?
Do you remember when I was chased off the field
by the Delta State Warriors because I took a baseball
and planted it on the nose of something? A guy
took me out at second base, and I planted the
baseball at the end of his nose, causing blood all
over the place.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
The Delta State Warriors charged me at second base. I
run into the center field over the fence, and none
of my players moved. Then I get back to the
bench about a half an hour later. I'm in the
woods hiding in my Xavier uniform. And Joe Huck says
to me, Willie, you shouldn't have hit that guy in
the face with that baseball. That's going to be a problem.
I said, Coach, the guy took me out and almost
broke my leg. He said, well, we're going to take

(58:30):
you down now for a game or two as punishment.
I said, come on, Coach. He said, sit down and
shut up. I said, okay. That was it. Well, Ray,
if you need me next year to come out and
throw batting practice, you let me know. I got the fastball.
I got the curveball. I got the slider. I got
the knuckle curve. I got the slip pitch. And I
got the screwball. That's all I got. All right.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
I'll put you on speed.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Now, Billy.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
That's beautiful. Tim, I tell you what, Tim Nairn, you're
about the best there is. I wish you nothing but
the best next Monday for the big parade. And those
kids are signing autographs, is that correct?

Speaker 10 (59:08):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
They're signing autographs.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Signing autographs. They're big men on campus. Most of them
are sixth graders. All right, Tim. May God bless you
and God bless America. Coach Naring, you're the best there is.
And I'm going to tell Segment and tell Fancona, you
need to be an honorary manager for the weekend series
against Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (59:30):
Get it done, could you?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Get her done. Get her done. Get her done. Thank you.
We'll do it again next year.

Speaker 8 (59:39):
That sounds wonderful. Thank you, guys, for everything.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You got it. Tim, you're the best. God bless you.
Thank you. How about that? How about that segment? The
kids are signing autographs. They're celebrities. What about me pitching
to them next spring? I think you ought to do it.
That'd be big. I'll throw the high heat. Back them
off the plate.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
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We need some segment. You need it right now from
Tempstar and Andy Buecher. You're not kidding. And also, Willie,
we want to thank Ron's Roost. Restaurant and bar, it's
clucking good for our lunch today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Don't say that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
Let's see, it was young Pam bringing down our lunch today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Princess Diane.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
66 years in the good old west side at 3853
Race Road.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
How about Gordon Veteran? It was like 9192, still getting around.
Burnett Pontiac. Deer Park Pharmacy, Deer Park Pony Keg, Xavier University, Midland.
He did it all. Willie, a Reds update.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Sal Stewart, Big Sal, continues to make his case for
the National League Rookie of the Year. Reds rookie has
been named the National League Rookie of the Month for August.
He becomes the first player in franchise history to win
the award multiple times. In August, Mr. Stewart hit. 304,
eight home runs, 21 RBIs. And the Reds get ready

(01:01:05):
to face off against those first-place Brewers tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
And the Brewers play tonight again in Chicago.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
They're going to come in late and tired. What if
the Reds sweep the Brewers over the weekend? What would
you say then, Segment?

Speaker 7 (01:01:18):
Then they got some momentum because they got to go
all the way to Los Angeles on Sunday and play
there Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Next three games. My God. Thank you, Judge. Judge Nadel.
Next three games are here against Milwaukee.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
They then go out to L.A., For three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Then fly back to Milwaukee for three. Then come home
and play the Dodgers for four. My God. That's what
I said.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Goofiest road trips of all time this year, Willie. Those
13 games. I mean, all the way to L.A., back
to Milwaukee. The last one was San Francisco, Arizona, San Francisco, Chicago.
Then the other one was like Seattle to Colorado to St.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Louis. I think the schedule maker went there. Mexico City.
I think somebody made the schedule maker. Then flew to Berlin.
I think. Then came back. But the next 13-game segment,
what do you think? Seven against the Dodgers, six against Milwaukee.
What if the Reds sweep all 13 games? What would
you say then? They better make....

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
Statues.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Tito Francona, the manager of the year. I think Tim
Nary ought to be out there doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
College basketball, Willie. Get the latest on the Savior Musketeers tonight.
Richard Pitino's show at 6.05 here on 700 WLW. High
school football tonight. Roger Bacon and Hughes. New Miami takes
on Preble Shawnee.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
By the way, Roger Bacon, high school golf team, under
the leadership of Wayne Carucci, has won the state championship.
Roger Bacon. They have one girl and a bunch of boys.
And Wayne Carucci, one of the flying tuners, taught those
kids how to hit the golf ball. And we also
want to say, Willie, congratulations to the man who is Mr. Xavier,

(01:02:57):
Tom Iser.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:02:59):
40-year anniversary today for Tom Iser at Xavier.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
He's been there not as long as you and me.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
40 years.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
And also, Willie, we say unbelievable action with Cincinnati native
and 2010 Sycamore High School grad Ben Diamond. He reached
the pinnacle of trail ultra running.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
One year after finishing as the runner-up in Mont Blanc, France,
Diamond hit a new event record by transversing the 174-kilometer,
108-mile race with almost 32,000 feet of vertical gain in
18 hours, 16 minutes, and 29 seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
That kid can run. And I got a text here
from theology professor Ken Craycraft who says the Reds will
go 10-3. Would you accept 10-3? Heck yeah. Next 13 games?

(01:03:53):
Heck yeah. They can do it, segment. Call upon God Almighty,
Professor Craycraft. If they can do it, Willie. Reds go 10-3.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Other people that were out there today, Willie, your good friend, Mr.
Pickle Juice, Dave Miley. Jim Tracy was out there today.
Billy Hatcher, the Reds. He lives by me in Madeira.
Some of the Reds coaching staff were out at the
Nuxall Tournament. So it was a good time had by all.
They're going to raise a lot of money for scholarships.

(01:04:21):
They got $ 7 million for the gym out there in
the big building. They need about $ 5 million. So if
you got money, send it to the Joe Nuxall Scholarship Fund.
Talk to the Westside All-Stars. They got all the money.
Second man to get me out of the Stooges report,
Jim Herson, coming up next. Willie, in honor of a
hot day here in the Tri-State, and you need 10-star

(01:04:42):
quality you can feel. We leave you with the immortal
words of the Stooges report.

Speaker 11 (01:04:49):
The only pitch I knew how to throw was a fastball.
I didn't know it. Curveball, slider, change, I didn't know
anything about this. My dad says, rear back and let
her fly. And that's all I did. And the first
pitch was a high. If I remember correctly, it was
high and outside. Because I was going to throw it
right through the back and cross the field. That's Hamilton Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
The best. 700 WLW. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, the great American.
James Herson. is a media psychologist, in a sense, New
York Times bestselling author, a media analyst and law professor.

(01:05:30):
His most recent column, about a week ago, is at Newsmax.com,
run by my friend Christopher Ruddy and James Herson. Welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. The fight is underway.
The midterms are coming up. And the headline of this
column you've written, which is brilliant in my viewpoint, is,
among other things, you say the following, moral relativism made
norms optional. Let communism in. And so you're on the

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left coast. We had liberal Democrats, and then we had DSAs,
Democratic Socialists of America, and now we have full-blown communists
layered with Islamic extremism. You take those four horsemen of
the apocalypse, which is liberalism, democratic socialism, communism, and Islamist

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revolutionaries now controlling New York City, for example, and other
parts of our country. What happened to the United States
of America, James Herson? What in the hell happened?

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Well, yeah, that's exactly the question. And people are wondering,
how is it possible that we could have people who
want to lead us and occupy very high political office,
want to, for example, eliminate prisons, defund the police, destroy

(01:06:46):
our ability to enforce our own borders? How is that
possible that they would think that those would be the
kind of issues that that they should publicly proclaim. And
the fact is, the reason that they're doing that, obviously,

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these DSA people, is because they follow the dictates of communism. And,
you know, socialism is actually too soft a word to
describe them, because the communists have always hated all norms.
if you notice that they hate the family, they hate religion,

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they hate any institution that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Promulgates moral values.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
And the reason is because what their desire is is
to create moral chaos. And one of the ways to
do that, and lots of anxiety, of course, in the population,
so that there can be an opportunity for them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
To basically impose.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Basically set up totalitarianism, which is what their goal is
and what they always do. They always do that. And
they wrote about it. You know, the founding fathers of
communism wrote about it. They called it the dictatorship of
the proletariat, meaning the dictatorship of the workers. And in

(01:08:14):
their mind, you know, this class struggle that Karl Marx
talks about justifies the anything, which is why every time
they set up rule, more and more people died. Under
the Soviet communism, we're talking about as many as 10 million.

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Under the Mao Zedong version, tens of millions. Under the
Khmer Rouge version in Cambodia, 25% of the population was
murdered or killed And it's celebrated. It's celebrated because anything
in the path of their pursuit of power is can

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be eliminated, but especially moral norms. And when you get
rid of norms, you create a vacuum. And that vacuum
is being filled by, right now, people that follow Hassan Piker.
And you mentioned those horsemen, but they're really, in the end...
they're still spouting communism.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
And that's how they're getting in.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
And they're using, you know, Alinsky techniques to demonize anyone
that they have classified as an enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Well, you have in your column, James Hurston, a couple,
I think, powerful statements. One is, it wasn't that long
ago the majority of Americans would have considered it preposterous
for a major American political party to openly advocate Marxist
governance You say, here we are. And you also say that, additionally,

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we've had generations of refugees in our country welcomed here
to remind us of the misery that awaits when the
crooked path to communism is taken. And that many folks
today are in a state of shock trying to figure
out it was unthinkable. It's happened. And so we're not
talking about something that's going to occur. We're going to

(01:10:15):
commemorate the sacrifice of 9-11, 25th anniversary. And it will
be presided over maybe by Mamdani, a left-wing Hamas supporter,
who's also a avowed socialist, and Governor Kathy Hochul, who's
wearing a hijab. in order to pander to the most
extreme elements of the Muslim faith. And the pillars, you say,

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are actually displaced over time by a worldview known as
moral relativism. There's no marriage. There's no God. And get
from government what you can get. And you say, when
a society adopts a morally relative worldview— it is considered
morally acceptable as wholly dependent upon whatever a person, family, culture,
or system deems so. So I can identify as something

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I'm not simply by verbally stating it, and the WNBA,
for example, would accept it. And I said to you
off the air, I'm a little bit demoralized by the
fact that it appears in the midterms that there's going
to be more of an embrace of democratic socialism, which
is communism, and Dr. Abdul, who's not a doctor... can

(01:11:21):
campaign just before the election with Assan Piker, who talks
about killing white middle-class Americans and talk about destroying the
American family and opening up the southern border and bankrupting
further this country. And in some polls, Dr. Abdul, who's
not a doctor, is going to beat his Republican opponent.

(01:11:41):
And I'm thinking, what in the hell is going on?
And you have more optimism than I have. Why is that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
It doesn't even matter whether someone is optimistic or pessimistic.
We've been through things where we've We've seen enemies of
this country. We were close to destruction in the Revolutionary War,
the Civil War, really actually still in World War II.
I just think we have no choice. We have to

(01:12:12):
fight this. And when you mention that part of my article,
I talk about how preposterous these beliefs are. You mentioned
the fake Dr.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
Abdul.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Think of someone.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Saying, I'm running for Senate. but I want to abolish
the Senate and how, how could polls register anything for, um,
this guy's, you know, policies. And then, of course, now
he's trying to distance himself from Hassan Piker after being
buddy-buddy with Hassan Piker and making Hassan Piker his running

(01:12:48):
mate during the primary. It's very obvious that he seeks power,
he'll say anything, and that he has no moral leaning
at all, which is a brand of communism. You know,
Kathy Hochul, as you mentioned, putting on the hijab. Actually,

(01:13:13):
our governor, Gavin Newsom, might as well wear a hijab
because he's about ready to sign into law a law
that that makes Muslim holidays a legitimate part of the
California law affecting schoolchildren. They're all pandering. Every Democrat who

(01:13:40):
thinks they possibly have a chance to run for president,
and of course that's all Gavin Newsom has been doing,
is basically pandering to the Muslim population that's going to
vote in the primaries, particularly in Michigan. So that's why
we see these people pandering. And they have no moral center,

(01:14:02):
and they're willing to take out the really unnegotiable values
that have to do with family, that have to do
with the pillars of freedom. And they're willing to jettison them.
They want to abolish the Supreme Court. They want to
abolish the Senate. They want to abolish the Electoral College.
They want to basically remove and erase part of the Constitution.

(01:14:26):
They want to erase and replace our history.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
All of this is.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
In perfect sync with the communism that we saw kind
of coming into our country in the 1960s. And it
reminded me, you know, because of my background in music,
I used to play a song every night when I
was on the road with the Temptations called Ball of Confusion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Great.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
So I wrote about that in my article because it's
really the same ball that they are pushing. They want confusion,
moral chaos, a lack of personal safety. They want a
lack of personal safety, particularly in urban areas, because they.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Take advantage of the chaos.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
To basically put in totalitarian communism.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
And, you know, you would think that would fail, but
it is largely successful now to get elected in major
blue cities and blue states. You must embrace radical Islam
and their candidates. Otherwise, you can't win a primary. And
I would have thought it would have been possible for
a radical Muslim to be elected the mayor of New
York City. Twenty-five years later, it's occurred, and I look

(01:15:44):
at Mike Rogers is a pretty good conservative candidate in Michigan.
Doesn't excite the masses much, but Mike Rogers is certainly
most qualified to be in the United States Senate. But Dr.
Abdul may win the race, and there's about 200 other positions.
from school board up to governor and U.S. senator embraced

(01:16:04):
by Islamic extremists, and the media tends to be on
the favor of those who advocate such things. Here in Ohio,
we have a Dr. Amy Acton running for the governorship
who won't debate her opponent, who is Vivek Ramaswamy. who has,
shall we say, been arrested. She has a drug problem,

(01:16:24):
and she won't debate him, and the polls are somewhat even.
And I'm thinking, how is this possible? And I look
at other school boards. I look at this woman in
California that was telling her first graders, in California, your
home state, you have to write down and choose what
your preferred gender is. And this is your six- and
seven-year-olds that have to pick their preferred gender And if

(01:16:46):
a parent objects in the public school system, the parent's
in trouble. How do we fall this far, James Herson?
How did this happen?

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Yeah, it's happened over a long period of time. It's
been the proverbial frog being slowly boiled. And it's been
our values. It is moral relativism. It is this idea
that my truth.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Is different than your truth.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
That's what allows them to do this to six-year-olds, to
have them ignore the science of their own.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Chromosomes and be.
Persuaded that they're the opposite gender but on the positive
side i have to say in in.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Michigan there's a lot of democrat donors that are giving
are now turning to mike rogers and they want to
stop those holes have been notoriously jaded because they're controlled
in many cases by either the media or academic institutions
basically i mean we've seen in the primaries the other

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thing is The difference between the general elections and the primaries,
the primaries are the activists who vote a very small percentage.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Compared to the general.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
And in the Democrat Party, the activists tend to be
the crazy people. And so for these people to win
the primaries.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
That's one thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
I think if we see some of these really far
left candidates, like you mentioned, the fake doctor, If he
was in Michigan, that is like, that's a five alarm fire.
That is a real, that shows that the population of
Michigan has been dumbed down sufficiently to accept electing a communist.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
And we have to remind people, Venezuela.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
Most prosperous country in Latin America, turned into a communist.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Hellhole through an election, not.

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
Through a revolution.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
No tanks, no no guns, just an election.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
And get what Hugo Chavez, Hugo Chavez, who was elected
the first communist of Venezuela, described himself as a democrat socialist.
That's how he described himself. So there's nothing democratic about
about the socialism that are advocated by the DSA.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
It's pure Marxism, plain and simple.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
James Herson, thank you. And I look at Venezuela and
I'm thinking it wasn't by tanks and by the bullets.
It's in the ballot box. And then once you're sold
lies accepted by the unwashed masses into believing a lie
is the truth and that black is white and up
is down and left is right, you become confused and demoralized.
And then they take away the ability to vote by

(01:19:37):
either you can't vote or we're going to fill the
ballot box like in your home city of Los Angeles.
After Spencer Pratt was seemingly going to go to the runoff,
within two or three weeks, hundreds of thousands of ballots arose,
and now you got someone to the left of Karen
Bass fighting with her as to who is the most incompetent.
Someone like Karen Bass couldn't run a pizza parlor, and

(01:19:59):
now she's in charge of multi-billion dollar budgets with mile
after mile of homeless encampments and drug use, and also
the decapitation of middle-class values. James Herson, we've got to run,
but your column is up at newsmax.com, and you say
revolutionary Russian Vladimir Lenin surmised that a formally held morality

(01:20:23):
was essentially a ploy that was used by the affluent
in society to maintain their status and wealth and end
up slaughtering millions of people. And maybe in America, we
consider that impossible. But if the communists, the DSAs, The
Islamic extremists take over. The country changes. Haiti becomes a state. D.C.
becomes a state. Venezuela, I don't know, they might become

(01:20:45):
a state. And maybe you're going to have Puerto Rico
becoming a state. Eight to ten more U.S.

Speaker 10 (01:20:51):
Senators.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
And we don't get back our country. But, James Herson,
we've got to run, but your column's up everywhere. And
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And I'm not too proud to beg, according to the temptations.
I ain't too proud to beg for America's future. James Herson,
you're the best. God bless you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
Amen.

Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Let's pray. I ain't too proud to beg. James Herson,
thank you very much. God bless you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
All right. God bless you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Let's continue with more of the columns at Newsmax.com, and
that's where we're headed. Sounding the alarm, it's up to us.
Don't let the communists take over at the ballot box,
which is what happened in Venezuela. Bill Cunningham, Newsradio 700, WLW.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 6 (01:21:34):
We've been promising him for two or three weeks now,
and he's shown up this afternoon. The World Series of Wrestling,
as it pertains to our city, comes to the Coliseum tonight.
I want to say the Macho Man, but it's the
Macho King, Randy Savage.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Randy, welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:21:48):
Macho King, you're right, Marty Brenneman, and I'm glad to
be here in Riverfront Stadium. Yeah, home of the Big
Red Machine type of a thing. Joe Nutz, how are
you doing? All right, Macho, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Great. Feeling fine.

Speaker 11 (01:22:00):
And a swing and a miss by Pagliarulo, and it's
a ball, two strikes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
The Macho King.

Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
The Macho King. I just beat Exxon Jim Duggan two
days ago in Portland, Maine, and I'm the new king
of the World Wrestling Federation. You know, kind of like
won the World Series all in one day.

Speaker 7 (01:22:15):
Doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 10 (01:22:18):
Doesn't get any better than this right now. Yeah, I'm
talking to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Isn't it right?

Speaker 10 (01:22:22):
Riverfront Stadium. What's the score here? What do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
We're down a run, 6-5.

Speaker 10 (01:22:27):
Does Marge need a pinch hitter here or something? Tell
her I'm ready.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
You know something about that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 10 (01:22:36):
Somewhere in my past. You know, is Jimmy led around
here somewhere?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
He's down in the dugout. Down in the dugout.

Speaker 10 (01:22:42):
Jimmy, stay there right now, brother.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
Seg explain the circumstances willie uh let's see that was
uh the year of the motif of wrestling and uh
the macho man randy savage they had a big um
Riverfront Coliseum had one of the big matches. Everybody was
there that night over at Riverfront Coliseum. And he comes

(01:23:20):
in and dressed in his purple outfit and everything else.
We're sitting there and all of a sudden he looks
to his left and he sees a stand-up, cardboard stand-up
of Hulk Hogan. And he just tears the thing into
a thousand pieces and throws it all over the place.
And then he went on Lanny Poffo, real name, and

(01:23:42):
he was a Reds minor leaguer at one point.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
He was a catcher. And then.

Speaker 7 (01:23:48):
I guess everybody kind of decided, well, to heck with
the game. We're going to look at the Macho Man,
and then you know what broke loose.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
That and went on and on, but explain Marge Schott's
reaction to the Macho Man. Well, she wasn't very happy,
and they had a big meeting. How wow.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
How wow. After the game, I wasn't in there, but Marty, Joe, Yid,
and everybody, Steve Schott was in there. Marge and a
couple other people, and they said this was outrageous.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
Wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:24:21):
And Steve Schott said, you know, Mom, I'd have your back.
And I think Marty looked at him. He said, he
would rip your eyeballs out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Something like that. Now, number one, you know, Randy Pofo,
a great baseball player.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Minor leaguer.

Speaker 12 (01:24:38):
He had a strong arm. He naturally threw with his
right arm. He had an injury. Taught himself to throw
left-handed to keep his baseball dream alive, and it died
in the minor leagues.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
That's a true story. And Macho Man is maybe one
of the top four of all time. Absolutely. Ooh, that
I'm the cream of the crop. Elizabeth, the lovely Elizabeth.

Speaker 12 (01:25:00):
Second of all, did Marge not understand the concept of publicity?

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Had no idea.

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
Why was she upset? Because the game kind of stopped.
The game kind of stopped. He was standing up, and
the fans were looking up at the booth, and they're
going nuts. Reds players are coming out, you know, standing
at the dugout rail.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Oh, I'm looking up there.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
The umpire's looking around going, what the heck's going on?
The macho man is in the booth. He's up there
in his purple regalia.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
He had a crown on, too, right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:25:27):
And, I mean, he was it. And, I mean, they
went in and they did an interview with him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Oh, yeah. I think he's on the Mount Rushmore. I
think he is. I don't know. Put up Hulkster, I guess.
Hulk's got to be on it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:25:42):
Steve Austin's got to be on it. Steve Austin, I mean,
there's only four spaces. That's what's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
And then Elizabeth, allegedly, I watched this one match in
which Elizabeth took up with Hulk Hogan. And that caused
some real problems in the ring. That caused some difficulties.

Speaker 12 (01:25:56):
He had a heart attack while driving his Jeep down
in Florida like 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Passed away. Blew up his heart.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Those are the days. But hard shot. She thought Macho
Man was showing up the Reds.

Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:26:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
And she didn't like that.

Speaker 12 (01:26:10):
Yes, but there's a million baseball games a year.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Like, let's embrace this.

Speaker 8 (01:26:14):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
And Marty and Joe went nuts, but they were dressed down.
They were called in after the game, apparently. And it
was like... That's so funny. And it's like.

Speaker 7 (01:26:26):
But, I mean, they had the wrestling motif. We had
all kind of wrestling stuff. And then, I think, before that,
it was Elvis. And that was when we had the
bust of Elvis sitting in between... Marty and Joe and
Red's players tried to assassinate him by throwing baseballs up
into the booth.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
At one point, they cracked Elvis.

Speaker 7 (01:26:46):
They did crack it at the corner. Joe Oliver did it.
But that was the Elvis bust. that traveled with Willie
and I in a limousine and about 18 Kentucky State
police cars to Lexington to get the national championship trophy. Now,
you've got to picture this. It's probably changed now. But
they had like a dark room with all these lights

(01:27:09):
illuminating each of the, you know, trophies for the basketballs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
For basketball. So we get up there and I take.

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
I take the trophy out, and they are surrounding me
like something's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Like you've got the Mona Lisa in your hand.

Speaker 7 (01:27:28):
Right, and then we put the Elvis bust where the
championship trophy was, and we said we'll be back in
a little bit with it. Well, the championship trophy went
to Willie's in Covington.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
And it could not leave the state of Kentucky.

Speaker 9 (01:27:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
What was his name?

Speaker 9 (01:27:43):
Merritt?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Was that his name? Colonel Merritt? Police escort. Yeah. Not
for you, the trophy. The trophy.

Speaker 7 (01:27:50):
We got from Lexington to Covington Rock in about, what,
15 minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
We went 90 miles an hour, police escort. We were
flying in that thing.

Speaker 7 (01:27:58):
And I mean, I'm going, it was like, we got
in the limousine in Lexington, and it was like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
90 miles an hour. That they pulled up.

Speaker 7 (01:28:06):
And they thought something was going on and, you know,
there was some kind of raid or some kind of going.
It was like, what, about 10 police cars, right, and
unmarked cars and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
We had sirens because I set up on the dance
floor at Willie's in Covington. A stand-up. Rick Pitino. Rick Pitino.
So you could get a picture sitting on the chair.
On one side over your shoulder was Rick Pitino stand-up.
And then the trophy in the middle. Then the fan
would be there. And they're lined up they're lined up
downtown downtown to get a picture so they thought the

(01:28:37):
real rick patina it was gonna be it looked like
him the pictures look like rick patina's with the trophy
and with you as a as a wildcat fan.

Speaker 12 (01:28:44):
You didn't share that no detail with the rick patina
will be here along with the trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Oh i'm there i'm there okay it was shot and
then we took the trophy back with dennis jansen Yes. Limousine,
and you couldn't leave. And then everything was A-OK. Give
us back the Elvis bust, back to the booth. Sam Newton,
athletic director, said, I was there with Rick, and he said,
tell me again, Rick, what we're going to do. We're

(01:29:11):
going to take the trophy and put it in a
bar in Covington? Are you serious? We're going to do that?
And I grabbed that trophy. The tablet. The holy tablet.
The Magna Carta, for God's sake. I can't leave Kentucky, though.
It felt like Moses, but I picked that up, and
I thought.

Speaker 7 (01:29:26):
You know, the thing about the Indiana Jones and the,
what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Temple of Doom?

Speaker 8 (01:29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
You know, you get the golden figure, you pick it up,
and then you put like a bag of sand.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
And all of a sudden, here comes that, you know,
the darts are flying, and the giant ball comes down.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I'm thinking, something's going to hit me walking out of
this place.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
And there were people, the offices were lined.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Up as we left the building.

Speaker 7 (01:29:56):
And I'm thinking, you're just watching it, and I'm thinking,
we're going to bring it back, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Don't worry about it. Is that like Notre Dame? Does
Notre Dame have the same thing with their national championship?
Because they haven't won one, what, since 89?

Speaker 12 (01:30:08):
It's been a long time, right? But there's, what, multiple
Heisman Trophy winners.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
So, I mean, those are still there. Yeah, they're highlighted.

Speaker 12 (01:30:15):
Could you take one of those trophies out of Notre Dame?
They're up in the $ 150 million building they just built.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Could you take that away?

Speaker 12 (01:30:20):
I don't think so. I don't think they allow that.
Especially go to some bar in South Bend. Go to
the linebacker lounge. We're taking Tim Brown's Heisman Trophy to
the linebacker.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
We'll bring it back. Don't worry. But Pagano said he
would do it. I said, okay, Rick, I don't know
CM Newton. He said, I can get it done. So
fans who went there to look at those trophies for
the next two days had a broken bust of Elvis
Presley in the place of the 1998 championship. With all
these prestigious championships.

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
Some guys traveled hundreds of miles to come see him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Kentucky rain keeps pouring down. Well, that was interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:30:55):
Now, yesterday, Willie, on the Eddie and Rocky show, you
were sharing some stories about Marge's shot. I'm not sure
how exactly it came up, but very interesting. There were
some interesting stories.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Well, it had to do with her going to the fireworks,
and you apparently were her escort.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Slash date. Yes, I was her date. I'd pick her
up and take her back home. To the fireworks.

Speaker 10 (01:31:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
And she sometimes... Over-imbibed, is that the correct word?

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
And didn't know where she was and how she got there.
But she knew Willie was there. She knew I was there,
and she kept wanting to hold me. She wanted to
hold him. And Penny said, have at it. I mean,
it's Father Jesus. I'm going, Marge, please. I always say, honey,
nobody cares. I say, well, I care.

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
I care.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
I care. March, just get her home. Get her home. Say,
give me some sports.

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Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Sports!

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Reds update Willie.

Speaker 7 (01:31:59):
Sal Stewart continues to make his chase for National League
Rookie of the Year. The Reds rookie has been named
National League Rookie of the Month for August. First player
in franchise history to win the award multiple times. In
August alone, Big Sal hit 304, 8 home runs, 21 RBIs.
The Reds welcome in the first place Brewers in the
start of a series tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
And after the game, Ludacris is in concert. Are you
going down?

Speaker 9 (01:32:26):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
I like to rap with Ludacris. If he and I
could get up on stage and rap together, I might
do it. Is Lane Kiffin in trouble because the Georgia
AG says we're not going to kick LSU out of
the league? What about that one?

Speaker 12 (01:32:41):
The SEC has filed a lawsuit against him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Aren't they playing tomorrow night? Can we get into this?

Speaker 12 (01:32:48):
I have some comments on this. First of all, Yes.
They're playing like tomorrow night. This is not like a
big distraction. They have an opening game, okay? And now
this is all anyone's talking about. The other thing I
can't understand is, I mean, the two players, Daquan Wright
and Xavier Harris, were good players, but they'd probably be
like depth players.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
So you're going to go through all this rigmarole and
do all this. I can understand if.

Speaker 12 (01:33:13):
You could get Fernando Mendoza back from the pros to play. Okay,
maybe it's worth all this BS, but this is just
two depth pieces.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
And you're telling your.

Speaker 12 (01:33:23):
Team 24 hours before you play, like, you guys aren't
good enough because we want to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Bring in two new guys. From the Cleveland Browns. Every
way you look at it, this is dumb. And they
play Clemson, which is not in the same league, but
isn't that a big game? It's a huge game. Battle
of Death Valleys. It's huge. They play at LSU? I
think they play at LSU. Do they play at LSU?
Or South Carolina? Clemson? But it's a national championship type atmosphere.

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And nobody knows who's going to play for LSU. And Clemson,
their coach, he's all... It's at LSU. So that's going
to be rocking.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Rocking.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
And you've got it next week.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
I do.

Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
I'll ask him about it. Could they be kicked out
of the SEC? I guess, apparently.

Speaker 12 (01:34:11):
Isn't that what an injunction is?

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Kick them out of the league.

Speaker 8 (01:34:16):
What?

Speaker 12 (01:34:16):
I understand Lane Kiffin. You kind of want to show
your own ego and get your name up. But he
just loves being involved in the middle of controversy. It's
like he seeks it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
It's difficult. This is not Joe Burrow. Hey, we're going
to do whatever we've got to do. Can Joe Burrow
go back to LSU?

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Why not? He's got a year left. He's got five years.
But see, that's the thing.

Speaker 12 (01:34:40):
There's no distinction about, okay, what's the proper amount of
time that you've played at the next level before you
go back?

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Judge Nadel will grant an injunction. Let him play for LSU.
What are you, going back to Notre Dame? Are you
going back to Notre Dame?

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
Saint X?

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Saint X. Saint Xavier?

Speaker 12 (01:34:58):
I played all four years at Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
You've got five years. Well, according to the rules now,
they're 5-5. I need one more year. Yeah, go back
and play. Joe Burrow at LSU.

Speaker 12 (01:35:08):
Wouldn't that be something?

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:35:13):
Again, why do all this for two guys that are
going to be depth P? They've got Trey Desgray, and
he's a great tight end, one of the best in
the country.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Why would you do this? Maybe the Cleveland Brown player
is better than what they've got at LSU. I don't
think so. I think it's like a depth thing, okay?
You've got to have depth. But is it worth it?
Eyeballs will be on this game. Is the juice worth
the squeeze? Would the eyeballs be on this game? Oh,
my God.

Speaker 12 (01:35:35):
So then next week, I have them. They have Louisiana Tech.
He's a good team, actually. And then the next week,
they have Ole Miss. That is going to be the granddad.
That is going to get some eyeballs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
We have a minute remaining. What's on the big show?

Speaker 12 (01:35:50):
Right out of the gate, we have Patty Newberry. It's
the 10th anniversary of the streetcar. Now, how much mileage
did you get out of the streetcar? It was good
for radio. Very good for radio. Here's my question. Say
that all was going on today. Would it be as
big a deal? My sense is it wouldn't be as
controversial an issue.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
You can't hire cops, but you've got $ 100 million for
a streetcar. That goes $ 144 million. $ 144 million. That goes
in a circle. Goes in a circle.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
That you ride for nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
It's a homeless encampment most of the time.

Speaker 9 (01:36:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
And people say ridership is up. Well, yeah, it's free.
It's free. It's free. You just ride around on it.
It's fun. I mean, but again, a talk radio dream.
It's good for radio. That's all that matters.

Speaker 12 (01:36:32):
So, yeah, Patty's going to check in with us, and
we have our fitness guy, PJ Street, at 4 o'clock,
and then some other stuff. Rocky Bowman, back to Notre Dame.
I can see it now. There's NIL now, too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
NIL money, a couple million bucks, you're gone. Say, get
me out of the Stooges Report. I love it here
too much.

Speaker 7 (01:36:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
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Speaker 7 (01:36:53):
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooges Report.

Speaker 8 (01:36:58):
Always good to be with you, Bill. See you later.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Patience. 700 WLW