September 4, 2026 • 18 mins
Willie talks with Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network about two recently unearthed 9-1-1 police calls to Democrat candidate for Governor, Dr. Amy Acton's Bexley home.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, Billy Cunningham to Great America. Welcome to Friday afternoon.
The Tri-State Reds baseball kicks off about 540 tonight. I
keep saying this about every two weeks, but the next
13 games should tell it all. Got three at home
starting tonight with the Brew Crew. Then go out to L.A.
for three. Then to Milwaukee for three. Then back at
home with the Dodgers for four. And so these 13
(00:29):
games should say it all. Seven against the Dodgers, six
against Milwaukee. And if they can win those 13 games,
they're back in it. If they lose one or two games,
not so sure. But hope springs eternal. But joining you
and I now this Friday afternoon, getting ready for Labor
Day weekend, et cetera, and the fireworks, Jack Windsor, the
(00:49):
great proprietor and CEO of the OhioPressNetwork.com. And, Jack, can
I make an opening statement?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Please do, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We do not consider ourselves part of Ohio. You may
know that about the eight or nine counties around Cincinnati
are kind of our own little fiefdom, along with three
counties in Indiana and about eight counties in Kentucky. So
the Boone, Kenton, and Campbell types... think they're not part
of Frankfort or Lexington or Louisville. They're part of Cincinnati.
And those of us who live here know that we're
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not part of Columbus. In fact, we don't like Columbus.
We like nothing about Columbus because Ohio State football urinates
us off. The basketball team wouldn't play UC. In fact,
UC beat them twice for the national title. And so
when I talk to you in Columbus, I hear things
I've never heard before because we don't cover anything in Columbus.
We don't care about Columbus. In fact, we don't like Columbus.
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We want no part of Columbus. And Boone, Kenton and
Campbell want no part of Lexington, Louisville or Frankfurt. We're
in the Republic of Cincinnati. Do you know what I'm
saying or not?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Willie, I'll leave it at this. I can go on
a cruise in the Caribbean and walk out of my
room and yell O-H and somebody will yell I-O. If
I go to Cincinnati and yell O-H, somebody yells N-O. So, yes,
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We don't care about Columbus. It's a bad place.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's flat.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And a bunch of politicians are there. They're crooked. So
let me ask you this. I have your headline of
a couple of days ago. Quote. Beckley, I assume Beckley
is some little Berg, irrelevant Berg in Columbus. Beckley records
obtained by the Ohio Press Network, that's you, confirm Acton's
daughter placed 2019 911 call, quote, mom has been drinking
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and throwing things and breaking glass, quote, unquote. This is
like news to us. We have no idea what you're
talking about with Amy Acton. Can you tell those in
the Republic of Cincinnati what in the hell is going
on with Amy Acton and your coverage of her drinking,
her drugs, and also domestic violence? Give us a full report.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yes, let's do that. And we'll talk about the debate
maybe after that. So this goes back to a 2019
incident where Bexley police were called to her home. And
there are two significant issues with this. Number one, it
happened and it's. What you just read is from the report.
Her adult daughter called and said, Mom has been drinking,
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throwing things and breaking glass. And then the dispatcher made
a note on the 911 call log indicating that the
daughter left and went to her dad's. Now, Governor Mike
DeWine this year. admitted that he didn't know that happened
and expressed disappointment that Amy Acton, who was the acting
Department of Health director back then, didn't report this to him.
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So this was an issue and it's something that the
Vivek Ramaswamy campaign brought forward. because Amy Acton in 1994
answered some questions on a medical school application involving drugs, alcohol,
and mental health counseling or mental health treatment, rather. And
so they brought this forward and said, okay, does she
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have a drinking problem? Does she have a drug problem?
And so that became an issue. What's really interesting to me, Willie,
we can talk about many avenues out of this story,
but one that's interesting to me is that her lieutenant
governor running mate, David Pepper, back in April of this year,
talked to News 5 out of Cleveland. And he was asked,
why do you think that or who do you think
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called the police to Amy Acton's home? And he said, essentially,
I'm not this isn't verbatim. Well, I think somebody was
concerned for Amy.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So they called.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
OK, here's the weird part. That interviewer showed footage of
David Pepper sitting with Amy Acton and said Amy Acton
didn't do the interview. Okay, so she's there with David Pepper,
and the 911 call log has been on the books
since 2019. So why is David Pepper telling people that
the police were called because somebody had concern for Amy
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Acton when the reality is the person who called was
a daughter who didn't have enough concern? She left the house.
And who said, mom's been drinking, throwing things and breaking glass.
No state house reporter other than yours truly has asked
David Pepper that. He won't answer me. And the people
he will answer won't ask him that question.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And this is a 60-year-old woman, Dr. Amy Fauci. I'm sorry, Dr.
Amy Acton is running for governor. She's 60 years old.
So these events took place when she was 53. We
all have moments in college like Tony Bender when you
act up, moon out of the fraternity window, do all
kinds of weird stuff. But by the time you're 55
or 60 years old. You should get it together, should
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have your life together. And this wasn't the first time
that Dr. Amy Fauci had this problem. Your story indicates
the August 2019 response was not the first time Beckley
police were called to Acton's home by a member of
her family. Explain that one.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes. So we got a tip that in 2013, the
police were called to her house. As we got that,
I did it records request and I was able to
procure those documents and And there were some inaccurate statements
about that incident that were made before I had the
documents in my hand and we wrote about them. What
(06:05):
I know from 2013 is really simple, and I don't
want to mention names, but there was a minor child,
and that minor child called the police department. And after
the police got there, what they put in the report
essentially was that the minor was intoxicated. The minor was
concerned that mom and dad were going to be really
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upset and start fighting. So the minor called police. That's
why police went out. And originally it was positioned as
Amy Acton was the one who was intoxicated. And that's
why the police came. But that is not accurate. So
that's what I know from the 2013 incident.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And the minor was Acton's teenage daughter. hit 9-1-1, quote,
we're going to get into some type of altercation. Both
parents said they were fine. No altercation occurred. But you
have found separate public records with the city of Beckley
on the 2013 incident. And so Governor Mike DeWine had Dr.
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Amy Acton as the face and the voice of COVID-19
in Ohio. And you're saying that, I haven't asked Mike this,
Governor DeWine this question. Did he know about the criminal
history of Dr. Amy Acton when he appointed her to
be the face of COVID-19?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I have to be careful, and I'll let you say
that word. I can't say that word, but I don't know.
What I do know is that she sailed through the
state senate unanimously. And I remember back in 2020 talking
to state senators saying, after she had really implemented these
draconian COVID measures, and they said if we had known
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who she was and what she was, we just kind
of went on the merit and trust in Governor Mike DeWine.
I don't know what Governor Mike DeWine knew about Amy Acton,
but if you do get him back on the show,
the thing that I would be interested in you asking
him is this, Willie. He says that the buck stops
with him, but that's not what the Ohio Revised Code
said back then. Only Amy Acton could issue orders and
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sign orders. And she said so back in 2025 on
NBC4 here in Columbus. She said, I was the only
one authorized to sign orders. In fact, there were rumors
that I left that position because I was getting harassed
and people were showing up at my house. But the
reason I left that position was because I didn't want
to sign an order to open the county fairs. Those
were her words, not verbatim, but that was the essence
of what she said. So I'm curious why Governor Mike
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DeWine is doing a dog and pony show for Amy
Acton when his words are really easily refutable by the
Ohio Revised Code.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, by law, DeWine could not have issued orders. Only Dr.
Amy Fauci could have issued them, and she did. And secondly,
it played a convenient political ploy for Governor DeWine. If
things went right, he could take credit. If things went wrong, well,
Amy did that. That wasn't me at all. And so
now he's got fingers pointing in both directions. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And by the way, maybe we'll use this as a segue.
What a great opportunity it would be right now in 2026,
in September, as we sit, what, 61 or 60 days
away from the general election for Amy Acton to accept
the invitation from WLWT right there in Cincinnati and CNN
and join the vague Ramaswamy in debating and to really...
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Look at him in the eye and say, no, this
is not true. Yes, this is true. And then say
all the things that her campaign says about him, right,
that he's a billionaire, that he's a con man, that
he performed a pump and dump with one of his
drug companies, so on and so forth. It would be
a great opportunity for those two to have that conversation.
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And then once that's out of the way, maybe they
could get into some really good policy discussion about where
they want to take the state. But the big story
this week, Willie, is that Amy Acton will not debate.
And here's what's even more interesting. She didn't even say so.
She republished a statement from her campaign, and it wasn't
because this didn't work. It wasn't because she didn't like
the station or the format. All she could point to
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is that Vivek Ramaswamy is, quote, a con man, and
he's only interested in helping his billionaire buddies, and she
does not want to platform him. I don't think that
plays well with independent voters. We will see. It's probably
not going to change anyone's mind who is already going
to vote for her. But I know there are a
lot of Ohioans who are sorely disappointed that Amy Acton
will not debate Vivek Ramaswamy.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, on that front, her commercials look like she's loopy.
More than one woman, lady, has told me she looks
like she's on something right now because she looks loopy
in her commercials. I see that a little bit. But
another issue is you're in the media. I'm in the media.
And Max Miller has caught living hell for his allegations
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against him by his, I guess, ex-girlfriend, who's the daughter
of Bernie Marino. And he's been put through hell because
of allegations of domestic violence or domestic disturbances. Why isn't
the history of Dr. Amy Acton front and center, much
like Max Miller?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That is a great question. And the short answer is
there is nuance when it helps you. And there's blunt
force trauma when it hurts your opponent. And that's really
the long and short of it. And I always remind
people due process will play out. And it's really difficult, though,
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in the middle of a heated and contested general election.
in the case of Max Miller, because due process will
play out. But of course, his political opponents are going
to use this to try to beat him over the
head and make him look like an abuser and a
really bad guy. But the reality is, if you dive
into everybody's background, everybody has something. And one of the
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things I think I'm starting to get from Ohioans as
they respond to our stories and my on-air coverage is,
you know, we're kind of done. with the guilting and
shaming and blaming and trying to smear. We really are
wanting to see where people are going to go policy-wise.
But I'll tell your listeners this. They may want to
watch my ex account today, at Jack Windsor, because to
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your point, as you dive into Amy Acton's background, not
everything adds up. And so we're looking into her medical licensures,
her claims that she was a pediatrician. And of course,
we already know that her biological mother has contested her claims,
Amy's claims that she was homeless and living in a tent.
And so, you know, the spotlight's going to shine on
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Amy Acton over the next couple of days and we'll
see what comes out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, her first commercial said she was living in a tent.
She was in a tent on Route 9 and her
Mother said, that didn't happen. And so did she live
in a tent? Is she a doctor? I mean, does
she have any patients?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So, yes, I live in a tent. So there are
people who are from the Mahoning Valley who have said
to me, if Amy Acton lived in a tent, when
she says she lived in a tent, I don't think
that she could have lived in a tent. It gets cold.
It's not going to happen. Her mother says it didn't happen.
And I don't know how you prove that, right? And look,
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people have narratives about their lives and they love to
tell stories. And every story has a villain. Every story
has a victim. And Amy Acton has herself as the
victim and her you know, circumstances and, and estranged family
members as, as the villains. Is that true? I don't know.
Her mother says it's not true, but there are a
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lot of things.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
When your mother says, Hey, that's not true. I'm mom.
And mom's telling you that's not true. Maybe I believe
Amy Acton's mother more than her living in a tent.
Come on, man.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And the other interesting part is, you know, she talks
about having a medical license and doing a residency outside
of her internship. I don't know that I've been able
to pinpoint that she was a practicing physician. She's told
outlets that outlets have reported that. I'm not seeing that yet. So,
you know, again, why not get on the debate stage
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and answer all of these questions and eliminate any doubt,
particularly if you're going to lead a state of 11.7
million people?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, it's interesting because without a debate, she hopes to
skate through this thing. I think her advisors are telling her, look,
it's tied in the polls right now. And so why
mess things up by telling the truth? Because now people
believe you lived in a tent. And people now believe
that you're a pediatrician. And people now believe that you're
working hard on behalf of average Ohioans and their paycheck.
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If the truth comes out, that may not help the campaign.
And so maybe she's being told, just maintain the status
quo and keep the Ohioans ignorant about your background. And
can you imagine her controlling a state of 150,000 employees,
a budget of $ 50 billion? Imagine her controlling a state
and she's making all these thousands of appointments when she
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looks loopy. Is she still on drugs, by the way?
Because let's face it, Jack, I have members of my
family that have alcohol difficulties. And I have members of
my family that have prescriptive drug problems and a little
bit of violent at times. And so I'm not putting
her down. I want Amy Acton at some point to
regain sobriety and to have a good life and be functional.
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And so I don't want to put her down because
of all of her mental difficulties and her alcoholism and
her drug use. I don't want to do that. I
want her to live a good, productive life. You know
what I'm saying? Not as the governor, but you've got
to get yourself together at some point. She's 60 years
old after all.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, two things here real quick. Number one, listen, you
and I probably share a common faith. And, you know,
our founding document, if you will, the Bible says we
all fall short.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We all have a mess.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And so, you know what? If we own it, if
we repent in our hearts truly, our mess can become
our message. And that can be hope that we share
that other people get to see. And so when I
see circumstances like this, I go, okay, Amy, if you
had a problem and you had a mess, own it.
And make it your message. But where it gets tricky
is when you don't own your mess and you say,
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that wasn't my mess. And then people show up and go, well,
I've got proof it was your mess. And now not
only are you not owning it, now you're losing the
opportunity to turn your mess into a positive message and
hamstringing your campaign. And listen, Americans especially, we love comebacks.
We're hardwired to love the underdog and the person who
got their fecal matter together and finally did something productive.
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And so I don't take anything away from Amy Acton,
but Ohioans want to know what they're getting into. And
then finally, I'll say this. Amy Acton is not going
to run the show. state if she's governor. Let's not
fool anybody or try to fool anybody. David Pepper is
a Democrat operative. The Ohio Signal news outlet, that's what
they call him. He's a Democrat operative from Cincinnati. That's
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the guy who's going to build the administrative state. That's
the guy who's going to run the operation behind the scenes.
And Amy Acton will be the puppet that David and
the D.C. Beltway Mark Elias of the world pull the
strings on. So you have Amy Acton. She is your
window dressing. You have You have David Pepper and the
Democrat deep state that will be running the state of
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Ohio if she wins.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, I mean, if you're in a tent using drugs,
you have to overcome that. And I wish Amy Acton
sobriety and I wish her good luck. I've known David
Pepper for a long time. He's a Democratic politico. He
would run the state and Amy Acton would be the face.
And hopefully she'll get off drugs and quit using alcohol
and quit being violent in her home. And hopefully she'll
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get her life together. And if not, David Pepper will
be the governor ex officio. And all right, we got
to run. I have many more questions. Haven't gotten to
them yet, but at some point I will. And once again, Jack,
thanks for Jack Windsor. Thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham show. And Jack, you're a great American. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Thank you, Willie. Have a blessed weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
God bless you. Labor Day weekend. And let's face it,
we all have fallen short of grace. And maybe Amy
Acton will get her bovine scatology together. Let's continue with
more news coming up at your home of the Reds
playing tonight. The next 13 games will define the season.
On NewsRadio 700, WLW.
Hi, Billy Cunningham to Great America. Welcome to Friday afternoon.
The Tri-State Reds baseball kicks off about 540 tonight. I
keep saying this about every two weeks, but the next
13 games should tell it all. Got three at home
starting tonight with the Brew Crew. Then go out to L.A.
for three. Then to Milwaukee for three. Then back at
home with the Dodgers for four. And so these 13
(00:29):
games should say it all. Seven against the Dodgers, six
against Milwaukee. And if they can win those 13 games,
they're back in it. If they lose one or two games,
not so sure. But hope springs eternal. But joining you
and I now this Friday afternoon, getting ready for Labor
Day weekend, et cetera, and the fireworks, Jack Windsor, the
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great proprietor and CEO of the OhioPressNetwork.com. And, Jack, can
I make an opening statement?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Please do, sir.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We do not consider ourselves part of Ohio. You may
know that about the eight or nine counties around Cincinnati
are kind of our own little fiefdom, along with three
counties in Indiana and about eight counties in Kentucky. So
the Boone, Kenton, and Campbell types... think they're not part
of Frankfort or Lexington or Louisville. They're part of Cincinnati.
And those of us who live here know that we're
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not part of Columbus. In fact, we don't like Columbus.
We like nothing about Columbus because Ohio State football urinates
us off. The basketball team wouldn't play UC. In fact,
UC beat them twice for the national title. And so
when I talk to you in Columbus, I hear things
I've never heard before because we don't cover anything in Columbus.
We don't care about Columbus. In fact, we don't like Columbus.
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We want no part of Columbus. And Boone, Kenton and
Campbell want no part of Lexington, Louisville or Frankfurt. We're
in the Republic of Cincinnati. Do you know what I'm
saying or not?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Willie, I'll leave it at this. I can go on
a cruise in the Caribbean and walk out of my
room and yell O-H and somebody will yell I-O. If
I go to Cincinnati and yell O-H, somebody yells N-O. So, yes,
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We don't care about Columbus. It's a bad place.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's flat.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And a bunch of politicians are there. They're crooked. So
let me ask you this. I have your headline of
a couple of days ago. Quote. Beckley, I assume Beckley
is some little Berg, irrelevant Berg in Columbus. Beckley records
obtained by the Ohio Press Network, that's you, confirm Acton's
daughter placed 2019 911 call, quote, mom has been drinking
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and throwing things and breaking glass, quote, unquote. This is
like news to us. We have no idea what you're
talking about with Amy Acton. Can you tell those in
the Republic of Cincinnati what in the hell is going
on with Amy Acton and your coverage of her drinking,
her drugs, and also domestic violence? Give us a full report.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yes, let's do that. And we'll talk about the debate
maybe after that. So this goes back to a 2019
incident where Bexley police were called to her home. And
there are two significant issues with this. Number one, it
happened and it's. What you just read is from the report.
Her adult daughter called and said, Mom has been drinking,
(03:17):
throwing things and breaking glass. And then the dispatcher made
a note on the 911 call log indicating that the
daughter left and went to her dad's. Now, Governor Mike
DeWine this year. admitted that he didn't know that happened
and expressed disappointment that Amy Acton, who was the acting
Department of Health director back then, didn't report this to him.
(03:39):
So this was an issue and it's something that the
Vivek Ramaswamy campaign brought forward. because Amy Acton in 1994
answered some questions on a medical school application involving drugs, alcohol,
and mental health counseling or mental health treatment, rather. And
so they brought this forward and said, okay, does she
(04:00):
have a drinking problem? Does she have a drug problem?
And so that became an issue. What's really interesting to me, Willie,
we can talk about many avenues out of this story,
but one that's interesting to me is that her lieutenant
governor running mate, David Pepper, back in April of this year,
talked to News 5 out of Cleveland. And he was asked,
why do you think that or who do you think
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called the police to Amy Acton's home? And he said, essentially,
I'm not this isn't verbatim. Well, I think somebody was
concerned for Amy.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So they called.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
OK, here's the weird part. That interviewer showed footage of
David Pepper sitting with Amy Acton and said Amy Acton
didn't do the interview. Okay, so she's there with David Pepper,
and the 911 call log has been on the books
since 2019. So why is David Pepper telling people that
the police were called because somebody had concern for Amy
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Acton when the reality is the person who called was
a daughter who didn't have enough concern? She left the house.
And who said, mom's been drinking, throwing things and breaking glass.
No state house reporter other than yours truly has asked
David Pepper that. He won't answer me. And the people
he will answer won't ask him that question.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And this is a 60-year-old woman, Dr. Amy Fauci. I'm sorry, Dr.
Amy Acton is running for governor. She's 60 years old.
So these events took place when she was 53. We
all have moments in college like Tony Bender when you
act up, moon out of the fraternity window, do all
kinds of weird stuff. But by the time you're 55
or 60 years old. You should get it together, should
(05:28):
have your life together. And this wasn't the first time
that Dr. Amy Fauci had this problem. Your story indicates
the August 2019 response was not the first time Beckley
police were called to Acton's home by a member of
her family. Explain that one.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes. So we got a tip that in 2013, the
police were called to her house. As we got that,
I did it records request and I was able to
procure those documents and And there were some inaccurate statements
about that incident that were made before I had the
documents in my hand and we wrote about them. What
(06:05):
I know from 2013 is really simple, and I don't
want to mention names, but there was a minor child,
and that minor child called the police department. And after
the police got there, what they put in the report
essentially was that the minor was intoxicated. The minor was
concerned that mom and dad were going to be really
(06:26):
upset and start fighting. So the minor called police. That's
why police went out. And originally it was positioned as
Amy Acton was the one who was intoxicated. And that's
why the police came. But that is not accurate. So
that's what I know from the 2013 incident.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And the minor was Acton's teenage daughter. hit 9-1-1, quote,
we're going to get into some type of altercation. Both
parents said they were fine. No altercation occurred. But you
have found separate public records with the city of Beckley
on the 2013 incident. And so Governor Mike DeWine had Dr.
(07:03):
Amy Acton as the face and the voice of COVID-19
in Ohio. And you're saying that, I haven't asked Mike this,
Governor DeWine this question. Did he know about the criminal
history of Dr. Amy Acton when he appointed her to
be the face of COVID-19?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I have to be careful, and I'll let you say
that word. I can't say that word, but I don't know.
What I do know is that she sailed through the
state senate unanimously. And I remember back in 2020 talking
to state senators saying, after she had really implemented these
draconian COVID measures, and they said if we had known
(07:43):
who she was and what she was, we just kind
of went on the merit and trust in Governor Mike DeWine.
I don't know what Governor Mike DeWine knew about Amy Acton,
but if you do get him back on the show,
the thing that I would be interested in you asking
him is this, Willie. He says that the buck stops
with him, but that's not what the Ohio Revised Code
said back then. Only Amy Acton could issue orders and
(08:06):
sign orders. And she said so back in 2025 on
NBC4 here in Columbus. She said, I was the only
one authorized to sign orders. In fact, there were rumors
that I left that position because I was getting harassed
and people were showing up at my house. But the
reason I left that position was because I didn't want
to sign an order to open the county fairs. Those
were her words, not verbatim, but that was the essence
of what she said. So I'm curious why Governor Mike
(08:27):
DeWine is doing a dog and pony show for Amy
Acton when his words are really easily refutable by the
Ohio Revised Code.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, by law, DeWine could not have issued orders. Only Dr.
Amy Fauci could have issued them, and she did. And secondly,
it played a convenient political ploy for Governor DeWine. If
things went right, he could take credit. If things went wrong, well,
Amy did that. That wasn't me at all. And so
now he's got fingers pointing in both directions. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And by the way, maybe we'll use this as a segue.
What a great opportunity it would be right now in 2026,
in September, as we sit, what, 61 or 60 days
away from the general election for Amy Acton to accept
the invitation from WLWT right there in Cincinnati and CNN
and join the vague Ramaswamy in debating and to really...
(09:21):
Look at him in the eye and say, no, this
is not true. Yes, this is true. And then say
all the things that her campaign says about him, right,
that he's a billionaire, that he's a con man, that
he performed a pump and dump with one of his
drug companies, so on and so forth. It would be
a great opportunity for those two to have that conversation.
(09:42):
And then once that's out of the way, maybe they
could get into some really good policy discussion about where
they want to take the state. But the big story
this week, Willie, is that Amy Acton will not debate.
And here's what's even more interesting. She didn't even say so.
She republished a statement from her campaign, and it wasn't
because this didn't work. It wasn't because she didn't like
the station or the format. All she could point to
(10:05):
is that Vivek Ramaswamy is, quote, a con man, and
he's only interested in helping his billionaire buddies, and she
does not want to platform him. I don't think that
plays well with independent voters. We will see. It's probably
not going to change anyone's mind who is already going
to vote for her. But I know there are a
lot of Ohioans who are sorely disappointed that Amy Acton
will not debate Vivek Ramaswamy.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, on that front, her commercials look like she's loopy.
More than one woman, lady, has told me she looks
like she's on something right now because she looks loopy
in her commercials. I see that a little bit. But
another issue is you're in the media. I'm in the media.
And Max Miller has caught living hell for his allegations
(10:46):
against him by his, I guess, ex-girlfriend, who's the daughter
of Bernie Marino. And he's been put through hell because
of allegations of domestic violence or domestic disturbances. Why isn't
the history of Dr. Amy Acton front and center, much
like Max Miller?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That is a great question. And the short answer is
there is nuance when it helps you. And there's blunt
force trauma when it hurts your opponent. And that's really
the long and short of it. And I always remind
people due process will play out. And it's really difficult, though,
(11:25):
in the middle of a heated and contested general election.
in the case of Max Miller, because due process will
play out. But of course, his political opponents are going
to use this to try to beat him over the
head and make him look like an abuser and a
really bad guy. But the reality is, if you dive
into everybody's background, everybody has something. And one of the
(11:47):
things I think I'm starting to get from Ohioans as
they respond to our stories and my on-air coverage is,
you know, we're kind of done. with the guilting and
shaming and blaming and trying to smear. We really are
wanting to see where people are going to go policy-wise.
But I'll tell your listeners this. They may want to
watch my ex account today, at Jack Windsor, because to
(12:09):
your point, as you dive into Amy Acton's background, not
everything adds up. And so we're looking into her medical licensures,
her claims that she was a pediatrician. And of course,
we already know that her biological mother has contested her claims,
Amy's claims that she was homeless and living in a tent.
And so, you know, the spotlight's going to shine on
(12:30):
Amy Acton over the next couple of days and we'll
see what comes out of it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, her first commercial said she was living in a tent.
She was in a tent on Route 9 and her
Mother said, that didn't happen. And so did she live
in a tent? Is she a doctor? I mean, does
she have any patients?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So, yes, I live in a tent. So there are
people who are from the Mahoning Valley who have said
to me, if Amy Acton lived in a tent, when
she says she lived in a tent, I don't think
that she could have lived in a tent. It gets cold.
It's not going to happen. Her mother says it didn't happen.
And I don't know how you prove that, right? And look,
(13:16):
people have narratives about their lives and they love to
tell stories. And every story has a villain. Every story
has a victim. And Amy Acton has herself as the
victim and her you know, circumstances and, and estranged family
members as, as the villains. Is that true? I don't know.
Her mother says it's not true, but there are a
(13:39):
lot of things.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
When your mother says, Hey, that's not true. I'm mom.
And mom's telling you that's not true. Maybe I believe
Amy Acton's mother more than her living in a tent.
Come on, man.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And the other interesting part is, you know, she talks
about having a medical license and doing a residency outside
of her internship. I don't know that I've been able
to pinpoint that she was a practicing physician. She's told
outlets that outlets have reported that. I'm not seeing that yet. So,
you know, again, why not get on the debate stage
(14:13):
and answer all of these questions and eliminate any doubt,
particularly if you're going to lead a state of 11.7
million people?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well, it's interesting because without a debate, she hopes to
skate through this thing. I think her advisors are telling her, look,
it's tied in the polls right now. And so why
mess things up by telling the truth? Because now people
believe you lived in a tent. And people now believe
that you're a pediatrician. And people now believe that you're
working hard on behalf of average Ohioans and their paycheck.
(14:44):
If the truth comes out, that may not help the campaign.
And so maybe she's being told, just maintain the status
quo and keep the Ohioans ignorant about your background. And
can you imagine her controlling a state of 150,000 employees,
a budget of $ 50 billion? Imagine her controlling a state
and she's making all these thousands of appointments when she
(15:04):
looks loopy. Is she still on drugs, by the way?
Because let's face it, Jack, I have members of my
family that have alcohol difficulties. And I have members of
my family that have prescriptive drug problems and a little
bit of violent at times. And so I'm not putting
her down. I want Amy Acton at some point to
regain sobriety and to have a good life and be functional.
(15:26):
And so I don't want to put her down because
of all of her mental difficulties and her alcoholism and
her drug use. I don't want to do that. I
want her to live a good, productive life. You know
what I'm saying? Not as the governor, but you've got
to get yourself together at some point. She's 60 years
old after all.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, two things here real quick. Number one, listen, you
and I probably share a common faith. And, you know,
our founding document, if you will, the Bible says we
all fall short.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We all have a mess.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And so, you know what? If we own it, if
we repent in our hearts truly, our mess can become
our message. And that can be hope that we share
that other people get to see. And so when I
see circumstances like this, I go, okay, Amy, if you
had a problem and you had a mess, own it.
And make it your message. But where it gets tricky
is when you don't own your mess and you say,
(16:14):
that wasn't my mess. And then people show up and go, well,
I've got proof it was your mess. And now not
only are you not owning it, now you're losing the
opportunity to turn your mess into a positive message and
hamstringing your campaign. And listen, Americans especially, we love comebacks.
We're hardwired to love the underdog and the person who
got their fecal matter together and finally did something productive.
(16:37):
And so I don't take anything away from Amy Acton,
but Ohioans want to know what they're getting into. And
then finally, I'll say this. Amy Acton is not going
to run the show. state if she's governor. Let's not
fool anybody or try to fool anybody. David Pepper is
a Democrat operative. The Ohio Signal news outlet, that's what
they call him. He's a Democrat operative from Cincinnati. That's
(16:58):
the guy who's going to build the administrative state. That's
the guy who's going to run the operation behind the scenes.
And Amy Acton will be the puppet that David and
the D.C. Beltway Mark Elias of the world pull the
strings on. So you have Amy Acton. She is your
window dressing. You have You have David Pepper and the
Democrat deep state that will be running the state of
(17:19):
Ohio if she wins.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, I mean, if you're in a tent using drugs,
you have to overcome that. And I wish Amy Acton
sobriety and I wish her good luck. I've known David
Pepper for a long time. He's a Democratic politico. He
would run the state and Amy Acton would be the face.
And hopefully she'll get off drugs and quit using alcohol
and quit being violent in her home. And hopefully she'll
(17:40):
get her life together. And if not, David Pepper will
be the governor ex officio. And all right, we got
to run. I have many more questions. Haven't gotten to
them yet, but at some point I will. And once again, Jack,
thanks for Jack Windsor. Thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham show. And Jack, you're a great American. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Thank you, Willie. Have a blessed weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
God bless you. Labor Day weekend. And let's face it,
we all have fallen short of grace. And maybe Amy
Acton will get her bovine scatology together. Let's continue with
more news coming up at your home of the Reds
playing tonight. The next 13 games will define the season.
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