LIVE On Sunday NIght with Bill Cunningham 7/26/2026

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Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best,
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for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Good to everyone with
me this evening and right now there's some news breaking
about the fact that Iran is now threatening Ukraine. You're thinking,
what's wrong with this picture? And there was a release
issued at six pm Eastern Time by the Foreign Minister
of Iran saying any attack on Iran always comes with

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a cost, and that remains true today. The US and
Israel are well aware of this cost. Ukraine too. Ukraine
may soon come to understand that Iran does not let
actions go unanswered. So this is an attempt by the
Iranians to make it look as if if Trump continues
a little bit of a lull and bombing the last
two or three nights, that maybe Iran would attack Ukraine. Allegedly,

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Ukraine may have hit a ship somewhere in the Caspian
Sea that was connected to Iran, so Iran wants to
make this thing as large as possible. The President's going
to meet with Benjamin Netchin Yahu Bibi on Tuesday, unless
Mom Donnie arrest him first, and they're going to meet
in Washington, d C. To talk about the next few
steps forward. And at this point, the last couple of

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weeks has been no attacks by Iran on Israel and
no response back that we're aware of, other than the
regular political assassinations that Israel carries out frequently against its enemies.
So we'll see what happens with threats now by Iran
to Ukraine. Incredible, unbelievable, plus some other good news this

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morning in the New York Times. I read it so
you don't have to, headline says inside the phone throwing
drama at the troubled broke Democratic Party. I read the
story with interest. In fact, I subscribe to the New
York Times, so you don't have to. The Democrats should
be well positioned to make gains in the years midterms.
But inside Democratic Party headquarters every week it's paranoia, worries

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about money, and occasional emotional eruptions. I read the rest
of the story essentially the following. You know, money is
like the mother milk of politics. Money, money, money. Right now,
the DNC is at least three point four million dollars
in debt. Another story out of my friends at town
hall dot com, Democrats mortgage headquarters for fifteen million dollars

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to bail out their financial fiasco. First time that's ever happened,
The story points out it was also at the New
York Post. The massive loan adds to the pilot debt
the DNC has accumulated, as the organization is already more
than three million dollars in debt heading into the midterm cycle,
has sixteen million in cash on hand, but they're burning
through about three million dollars a week. And on the

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other hand, so the Democrats are broke, they're mortgaging their
home to pay ongoing expenses. On the other side of
the coin, the Republicans. Trump's pack has about four hundred
million dollars, the RNC has one hundred and thirty million.
My simple Deer Park High school man tells me that

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the Republicans have about five hundred and thirty million dollars
compared to the Democrats that are three point four million
dollars in debt and just mortgage their homes. So you
would think, and The New York Times points out in
this article written by a couple of their reporters, Shane
Goldmacher and Reed Epstein, that this should be the best

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of times for the Democrats because they perceive the president
is unpopular. The economy, they say, which it is, is dysfunctional,
and that somehow the cost of living is way too high.
Of course Democrats would take it higher, not lower. And
they go on too all these negative things happening in
the country with Donald Trump in charge. So they make

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the point that Ken Martin, the party chairman, should be
singing happy days here here again. Essentially, they're bankrupt, They
have lousy candidates, including doctor Abdul in Michigan, and of
course Graham Platin was just replaced with another clown, and
there's a vanishing circle of people he trusts. There's a
sism of split in the day Democratic Party, the likes

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of which we've not seen since nineteen seventy two, in
which kind of normal Democrats, our old time Democrats, want
to have a little bit of position. It's a little
bit left to center as opposed to the Democratic Socialists.
We have a guest coming on later, Colonel Rob Mainez.
About the Democratic Socialists. They want things like no prisons,
bulldozed the prison walls so they can't be rebuilt. They

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want open borders. They want immediate citizenship for everyone residing
in the country, irrespective of citizenship. They want to eliminate
the Department of War, Department of Defense. They want to
guarantee income of seventy five thousand dollars a year and
no cost whatsoever for medical care or for food. Sounds
like Cuba. How's Cuba looking not good? Also, there was

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an incident, a so called phone tossing incident, in which
Ken Martin, the leader of the party, fired a telephone
toward the head of one of his assistants the desk
of a junior aid while unbraiding the person. The tossing
incident resulted in a formal complaint by this woman to
the DNC's HR department, and Martin said he was trying

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to throw the phone at the desk rather than at
the at the assistant. No one witnessed the encounter. You've
not read it by this in the media because it
is so bad for the Democratic Party. They don't put
things in the paper bad about Democrats. But he was
counseled by the HR department at the Democratic National Committee
to quit throwing telephones, quit doing that kind of stuff.

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It's unbelievable, of course, Martin, Ken Martin is the decline
interview Request Executive Director Roger Law of the DNC said
the matter is a close. No one's talking about it
because it is so bad. I guess right now Ken
Martin is thanking God. The phone didn't hit this poor
woman in the head, causing injuries, but she filed a
complaint against her boss, the party chairman of the Democratic

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National Committee. So the headline of the New York Times
article is inside the phone throwing drama at the troubled
broke Democratic Party. And that's where the Democratic Party is.
So Republicans have about four hundred and thirty million going in.
By the way, the election itself is one hundred days away,
a little over three months. For those mathematically challenged, the

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Republicans have five hundred and thirty million. The Democrats are
in debt and not looking good, and the party is split.
In fact, Bernie Sanders this morning did not apologize whatsoever
for supporting the rapist Graham Platner. He was accused of
rape by girlfriends, along with a bunch of other stuff
you can't mention on the radio. Some of the things

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I read about he supposedly did to women totally disgusting,
And of course Bernie Sanders say, well, you know, I'm
not going to apologize for that whatsoever. So this whole
issue and I'm willing to say this. I have a
guest coming up later, jeffkrue Air, on the fact that
many Republicans I tend to vote publican, I'm more independent

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with a right wood shift, a more libertarian. But he
makes the point that he doesn't believe that this is
going to be as bad as we think it's going
to be. November I had a guest on last week,
you might recall, who talked about the fact that it
appears on the Cook Political Report out of Washington, there's
two hundred and thirteen seats secured already by the Republicans,

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getting five of the next seventeen to win and control
the House of Representatives. And they have the Republican Party
keeping the Senate by a margin of fifty two to
forty eight. And so this is the worst of times
for the Republicans, the worst of times for Donald Trump.
But they're flushed with cash, have better candidates, and the
media assaults on Republicans and Donald Trump is offset by

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the fact that the Democratic Party itself was split right
down the middle between the Communists on the far left
and the Democratic Socialists on the moderate left, between the
regular Democrat are on the left. So we'll see what
happens down the road. And in the past, as you
may recall, and Danny boyd to have that Hillary Clinton
cut ready to go. She was asked a question Hillary

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Clinton during one of her presidential runs about Iran and
what she would do if Iron got close to a
nuclear weapon. Now, this won't be played by the mainstream
media because it is so bad for the Democrats.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Danny boy Gleeson hit it that.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
If I'm the president, we will attack Iran whatever stage
of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program
in the next ten years, during which they might foolishly
consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able
to totally obliterate them.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's a terrible thing to say.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
That those people.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Who run Iron need to understand that, because that perhaps
will deter them from doing something that would be reckless.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Hillary Clinton doing exactly or saying exactly what Donald Trump
is doing. Of course now she's singing a different from tune,
but she perceived this unpopular. Those are the beliefs I
can play cut after cut of Obama and Hillary Clinton
talking about deporting illegals, workplace raids, no trial, kids in cages.

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Those are all policies of the Clintons and Obama until
politically he became expedient to do something different. But one
of the best things I have we're going to play
for you later in the comments of Charlie Kirk, which
are said, we're going to commemorate his murder on September
the twelfth. Guiding stars of current Democratic politics. You cannot

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find a Democrat whatsoever to criticize anything that Martin Luther
King Junior said and did. He sacrificed, in his sense,
his life for the country. In Memphis, James RL Ray
before he died, he talked about antisemist, anti semitism and
hating Jews. One of the tenants of the modern Democratic

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Party is we hate Jews, We're antisemitic. Look at the colleges,
look at the fact that Josh Shapiro obviously was the
much better vice presidential candidate rather than Tim Waltz, for
God's sakes, But Josh Shapiro was angered by the fact
that when he was interviewed by Kamala Harris's Alkoholites, they

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asked him whether his loyalties would be toward America or
toward Israel. And so the Democratic Party today is terribly
anti Semitic. They didn't want Jews in any powerful positions.
In fact, a few days ago, one hundred or so
Democrats voted to stop all aid to Israel. These are

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the words of Martin Luther King Jr. About Jews and
anti Semitism. Just before he was murdered. Danny boy Gleeson hid.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
It oh world must see that Israel must exist and
has a right to exist, and is one of the
great outposts of democracy in the world.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
My Jewish brothers and sister said to me, a mere
anti semitism anywhere. We don't need your support. We have
enough Jewish power to deal with this public ourselves.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I would still take a stand.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Against anti Semmetrism because it's wrong.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
It's us, and it's evil.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
If my Catholic brothers and sisters said to me, a
mere biggot to taught Catholics. We don't need your supporting
this because we have enough Catholic power to deal with it.
I would still take us stand against bigger to taught
Catholics because it is wrong, it isn't evil, and it
is on justice.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Now, those are the words of mL King Junior saying,
y Kamala Harris, who I believe now more than ever
that she's going to be the nominee of the Democratic
Party in twenty twenty eight. She's worked assiduously in an
anti Semitic way to take away the power of Jews
in America and to let Israel go on its own.

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If she becomes the president, she'll cut off all aid
to Israel or whatever type and saddle up next to
the most extreme elements of the Democratic Party that are
anti Semitic. There she is again because the Democrats. The
Democrats have no one else. Pete boota j Ed. You
got to be kidding me. That's impossible, John Asoff, impossible.
He's a Jew, the senator from Georgia, and Democrats don't

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like Jews and they have no one else to go with.
I mean, I would anticipate that Evin K. Newsom, the
governor of california'll be indicted in the next six weeks.
Him and his wife are all kinds of fraud. The
only person left standing is Kamala Harris, and she has
a Jewish problem.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Shall we say, let's take a short break hit it.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I want to welcome at least four or five more
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five hundred radio stations this Sunday night. So as we continue,
we'll play one or two more cuts. And something that
really struck my heart. It was from the Turning Point
USA website about Charlie Kirk and before he was murdered,
he talked about his own death. We're going to play
the bit later on for you. And also some comments
becoming My favorite US Congressman is Brandon Gill questioning certain

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individuals about having teenage boys getting pregnant and there are
some government officials who talk about pregnancy protection for teenage
boys who are transgender. That is, boys, by the way,
don't have uteruses, they're not capable of thinking getting pregnant.
But government officials want to educate how do how teenage

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boys should use tampons and teenage boys could use birth
control pills. It's absurd where we are. Let's continue with more.
What's set up tonight's show. By the way, take calls
tonight eight six six six four seven seven three three
seven eight six six six four seven seven three three
seven Bill cunning in the Great American with you and

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all great Americans every Sunday night. Hi, Billy cunning in
the Great American. Later on I'll set up tonight's big show,
including a call from Israel about what's happening now, a
little bit of a law, a little bit of a pause.
We'll see what happens last two days. Of course, now
Iran is threatening to attack Ukraine. They want to broaden

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this war as much as possible. Are they worse oft
than we think? Are you one of the thirty percent
of Americans with me that support what the President is doing?
How valuable it is. But are you one of those
watching Congressman Brandon Gill from the Great State of Texas
quiz and others like doctor Anthea Artig who's the director
of the Smithson and others who put out these pamphlets,

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and one I'm looking at right now involves the interchangeable
accessories of dolls, and the headline here in Fox News
is unbelievable transgender dolls to be available in Minnesota for
the school children as young as four and a program
backed up by Governor Tim Waltz. The transgender dolls will
be accessible to Minnesota school children between the ages of

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four and ten starting this fall. The my gender dolls,
which were developed in part through the University of Minnesota's
Early Innovation Fund, will be used by clinicians and educators
starting this year. The New Post first reported it's designed
to have a doll with interchangeable genitalia, so if a

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four year old girl would like to have a penis,
she has a doll that's available to make that happen.
And this is going to be preached to in the
schools in Minnesota. Interchangeable accessories and swapped out genitalia to
help children quote real all the different options that exist
for them. This is a four year old boy and
a girl up to the age of ten, four and ten.

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But in that vein, Danny boy, if you got it ready,
This is a question asked by one of the government officials,
by Congressman Brandon Gill in the Great State of Texas.
Danny boy, hit it.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I can't even say this without laughing.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Adapting an LGB plus inclusive teen pregnancy prevention program for
transgender boys, I can't even say this without laughing. Do
you think that that is a useful form of our
tax spend?

Speaker 11 (17:39):
I am not familiar with that grant, but I think
bench research government investment in scientific and.

Speaker 10 (17:45):
Foring pregnancy for transgender boys. Do you think that that
is a useful spend of our tax dollars.

Speaker 11 (17:53):
I think government investment in all kinds of scientific research
is of the utmost important.

Speaker 10 (17:58):
Including pregnancy prevention for transgender boys.

Speaker 9 (18:02):
Okay, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Can't make it up. Tim Waltz has tampons and boys'
restrooms in school. Now, Tim Waltz has approved four to
ten year old children receiving transgender dolls with interchangeable genitalia,
and now we're going to have pregnancy information for teenage boys,

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should they get pregnant.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Just when you.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Think you've hit the bottom of the barrel with some
of these public officials and these fools on the left,
something like this occurs and to totally redeem themselves.

Speaker 11 (18:37):
I think government investment in all kinds of scientific research
is of the utmost.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Important concept is have these children select bodies, genitals, clothes,
and other accessories. Has to visualize their own atona, anatomy
and gender.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
That's the goal.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
How many children you know, four or five six years
old that care about sex and sexual activity and genitely?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
How many? The answer is zero.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's in doctrination of the youth to believe an alternative
lifestyle is somehow worthwhile. Let's continue with more. Your calls
are next eight sixty six, six, four seven, seven, three
three seven Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday.

Speaker 12 (19:18):
That joy Danny Boy, Danny Boy, hit the music.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Come here.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Later we have a report from Israel, Shiloh, Israel, from
a man named Ruben, David Rubin. Also later on is
the great Colonel rob manis to talk about democratic socialists
as they're not democratic socialists, damn it, they're communists. A
wise person, a wise woman once said that's so socialists
will impose communism through the ballot box, while communists impose

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immediately the tanks, which will cause communism. So if you're
a socialist, you want communism, use the ballot box. If
you're a communist, you use tanks to impose your will
upon unsuspecting individuals, like in Venezuela or Cuba, or the
old Soviet Union Russia kill all the royal family then

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imposed communism at the butt of a gun. So what's
happening in America is democratic socialists. They're not democratic socialists.
When you read their platform about government taking over the
means and manners of production of goods and services, that
is pure and simple communism. It is communism, not socialism.

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Bernie Sanders is much closer to communism than socialism. And
this morning on one of the talk shows on Fox,
there was a democratic socialist on who talked to the
fact that fifty percent of all businesses should be owned
by the United States government, that the southern border should
become wide open, knock down the fences, that every resident

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in America needs to be a citizen with the right
to vote, which by the way, could be imposed when
the Democrats control everything that will happen at some point
in the future. That is exactly what's going to transpire.
So when a socialist came on this morning in Fox
News and talked about no prisons, no police, no Department
of Defense, no Department of War, free public education through

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college or law school, whatever it might be, free food,
free groceries, eventually the destruction of our country would be
at hand delivered to the left wing communists at every ilk.
And that's exactly what's intended. Here's intended. It's not a
different brand of democratic politics. Fetterman knows that Rami Manuel
knows that Van Jones knows that so called traditional liberals

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are not democratic, socialists or communists. I've watched the Democratic
Party go from a little bit right of center, which
was John F. Kennedy who ran to the right of
Richard Nixon. Then it became shall we was a moderate.
The liberal began with Hubert H. Humphrey. Then it went
from liberal to progressive, which was of course the Democratic

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nominee in nineteen seventy two, George McGovern. And then we
got back to a little more reasonableness with Bill Clinton, who,
by the way, Bill Clinton ran a budget surplus with
new gingrich. Bill Clinton is the one who wanted to
keep illegals out of the country. Bill Clinton is the
one that wanted to have a pats of citizenship very difficult.
He wanted immediate deportations. And then even Barack Usain Obama

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in twentyh six, twenty seven, twenty oh eight, talked about
shutting down the southern border, talked about workplace raids, talk
about quick and easy deportation of illegals in America. That
was Barack Husain Obama. We'll not talk about something radical
as far away as you know twenty thirty years ago.
I'm talking twenty nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve.

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In fact, the Obama of twenty twelve sounds like Trump
of twenty twenty six about the same political beliefs.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
How about that. It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
In fact, I've played for you before the comments of
William Jefferson Clinton when he was the president, offering to
yes Heir arafat all of Gaza, We ninety six percent
of Gaza and four percent of Israel, in other words,
one hundred percent of Gaza, it's all yours, and it
was turned down. They don't, They didn't the Palestinians, so

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to speak, did not win Gaza. They wanted to kill Jews.
And then in twenty oh five, after about eight more
years of negotiations, Israel finally said the heck with it,
we will return Gaza completely to the Palestinians. It's all yours,
leave us alone. Let's see what you do. So for
those who say free Palestine, it's been free twice within

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my lifetime without measurable effect. In fact, after twenty oh five,
when Israel finally said it's all yours, take it and
we'll withdraw our soldiers, put up a fence, you live,
it become the Dubai of the Middle East. Instead of
becoming the Dubai, they became about the worst place in
the world to live, which was in Gaza. As soon

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as they had a chance with voting, you might recall,
the UN with Jimmy Carter's involvement, voted for Hamas to
be their government representatives in Gaza. At that point Israel said,
my gosh, we made a mistake. Look what's happening. We
were guaranteed by the Palestinian authority that Hamas would not

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be in charge all of terrorist organization and that the Gazans,
the Palestinians would want to live in peace with Israel.
That didn't last very long, did it. And so for
those who say free Palestine, you're stupid. They've been free
twice and each time the Palestinians then alive, take Tomas
to be their government representative. Billions and billions of dollars

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of aid flowed in from all over the world to
help Gaza rebuild. Hamas took the money to buy bullets
and guns and artillery shells and later on drones. Whatever
they killed Jews. The whole organization of a mass was
in charge of killing Jews wherever they might be located,
or killing Americans and killing other Muslims.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
It's a death cult.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And so for those who say free Palestine, damn, it
has been freed twice and look what happened. They immediately
went back to terrorism. And after October the seventh of
twenty twenty three, enough was enough. Israeli said we can't
keep living like this, so they largely obliterated Gaza as
careful as they could to take as few civilian civilian

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deaths as possible, unlike what Hamas did. But a mass
of course located at their armaments and located at their
command centers, and located their artillery and their shells underneath
hospital and schools, in orphanages, in apartment buildings. And so
if that's the case, what he do just keep getting No,
we wouldn't put up with anyone sending over a six

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week period, almost three thousand rockets and artillery shells into
our country. And Israel can't live like that, and so
they responded. So the fools who now talk about free
Palestine has already been freed. And each time the Palestinians,
the Gosins, gave their territory back to the terrorist groups

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that they used to launch horrible attacks on the Jews,
which they would keep doing. If somehow Israel was disarmed today,
it would be obliterated by Friday afternoon. If on the
other hand, if Iran was disarmed, there'd be peace in
the Middle East. All the Jews want is peace. Live

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in peace.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
That's all they're after. And they're in the toughest part
of the world. And I think Donald Trump is exactly
correct when he says what he says about completing the
Iranian more. I wish you would do it more quickly.
Let's take some calls. We have three lines open eight
six six six four seven seven three three seven. Let's
go to Michael and Oregon the home of the Ducks

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and the Beavers. And Michael, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Michael, how are you.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
Billy, I'm good after I listened to you. It's an
honor to talk to you again, sir. I'm the red
stand and conservative here in Oregon, but I have all
the respects in the world for the Ohio State Buckeyes.
I think we're going to have a great team. I'm
hoping the Ducks will have a good team. And you know,
of course you always have our favorite opponent, the Indiana Hoosiers,

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so they're going to be in there. I wanted to
just you know, I had a comment. I want to
make a plit call a little bit, but a quick
note on the Reds. I wish they were doing better
in the standings, but I want to compliment Chase Burns.

Speaker 14 (27:55):
What a picture trying, by the way.

Speaker 13 (27:59):
Yeah, and he got a contract one hundred five million,
and you know, not every athlete deserves their contract. He
certainly does.

Speaker 9 (28:06):
And what a.

Speaker 13 (28:07):
Picture, Billy, uh and uh boy? I love to watch
him every time I get a chance.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Well, how did I how did someone from Midwest get
stuck in Oregon? Because a lot of Oregon wants to
go to Idaho. So how did you end up in
Oregon from the Midwest?

Speaker 13 (28:25):
Good question, Billy, My, my wonderful brother, David. Two. We're
both conservatives. We love your show and you know you.
To me, you're the best show on the on the radio.
There's some other great shows.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
Sure, we'll mill Haven.

Speaker 13 (28:41):
He's a show pick up. He's a Midwestern guy. Great show,
but you're number one with me.

Speaker 14 (28:47):
Billy. Uh.

Speaker 13 (28:48):
My my dad was from here, eastern Oregon. We've all
been government workers. He worked thirty years for the state Highway,
a great dad. My mom thirty years for the state
as the secretary. I worked for city, state and county.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (29:04):
And my.

Speaker 13 (29:06):
Like it's my brother has worked amazing forty eight years
for the state. In August. He's a coruction this officer Okay.
And like I said, we've we supported, of course going
back to the eighties President Reagan. Uh and your President
Bush And like I said, loved Rush Limbat. To me,
you're the best radio host since the Great Rush.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
I'm not worthy.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I'm unworthy to be compared to the great. He's the goat.
Sean Hannity is great. I love Mark Levin and I
love listening to people like when Mark Levin when he's on,
I turn to travel at night so I can hear
Mark Levin. I love what I love what he does. Uh,
And I just think, you know, talk radio has taken
off because it is the alternative to the mainstream media,

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which often is so indoctrinating and so left us. I
watched The Correspondence Center the other night, and uh, I
just thought he was in a room of vipers. Every
chance he got, they would manish what Trump wants to do.
And American people are fundamentally conservative, and talk radio reflects
often that conservatism, which NBC, ABC, CBS fails to do.

Speaker 13 (30:11):
Yes, Billy, I wanted to add, Yeah, the two best
presidents I ever voted for at the two best in
my lifetime. I feel, of course President Trump, but also
the great Ronald Reagan. You know, just love both of
those guys. And you know they they had, you know,
they have things right. And you know, like I said,

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the polls that I hear believes this frustrating to me.
They say you know, one poll I heard fifty six
percenter against the war in Iran. But what are we
supposed to do? Let Iran have a nuclear weapon? And uh,
you know, present that threat and President Trump realize that,

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are you?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Hillary Clinton, just give me the Democrat Hillary Clinton was
one hundred percent for invading Iran and destroying Iran. Hillary
Clinton and Obama if they ever got a nuclear weapon.
I've played cuts before. Of all the Democratic leaders outside
of Bernie Sanders, he's not much of a leader. All
the national leaders said we must make certain that Iran,

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because they're suicidal, it is a death cult, is not
a normal state, can never get a nuclear weapon because
they would use it in a heartbeat. And so you
hit all these Democrats supporting exactly what Donald Trump is
doing until the media and the Democrats turned the American
people against it. And I'm glad in the sense that
I'm one of the one third of the Americans who
think this is an historical struggle that America must win

(31:40):
to reorder the Middle East, and if that happens, will
be in good shape.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
But I got to run.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
And thanks for your call, Michael. One other quick little snippet, Michael,
thank you you know, the WNBA had their All Star
Game on Saturday night, and you know, to quote the
words of Charlie Kirk, three important things in life. Number
one is God, Number two is family. Number three is country.
So God, family, and us of a there have been one.

(32:08):
There's one organization in this year that has not worn
the America two hundred and fifty Birthday patch the following half.
The NFL included the initiative in their uniforms, the NBA
did it, the NHL put the two fifty USA patch
on their uniforms. Major League Baseball did it, Major League

(32:29):
Soccer did it, NASCAR did it, the UFC did it,
the WWE did it. Every player wore one during either
the Super Bowl, NBA players, etc. All the sports organizations
represented the country well accepts except the WNBA. Their treasurer

(32:50):
is ground a turner. And whoever, she said who called
for the WNBA All Star uniforms to have the two
fifty patch should have thought through considering no WNBA player
would have been free two hundred and fifty years ago.
So she equates wearing a patch supporting this country with

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the creation of slavery in this country, which, by the way,
for three thousand years we've had slavery. In fact, America
and England were the first two countries to stop the
Africans and Muslims from importing slaves and exporting slaves all
over the world. It was America that stopped it, along
with the British. In fact, there were one thousand, five
hundred British sailors who died to keep the slave ships

(33:35):
from leaving Africa, which Africans captured other Africans that sold
them into slavery. Slavery continued for a century or two
after we stopped doing it because it was so wrong,
and about four hundred thousand Northern soldiers gave their life
to free African Americans in the South. I'm proud of
the fact that we stood up against it and no present,

(33:58):
no person alive today was a sla and no slaveholders
alive today. In fact, the only place slavery still exists
is in Africa. In Asia, according to the UN, there's
at least fifteen million slaves still in the world today,
the majority of Africans, but of course the WNB doesn't see
any of that. I'm not proud of the fact that

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my country had slaves, was legalized for about sixty years.
But I'm proud of the fact that we were the
forefront of stopping slavery when the rest of the world
did not stop slavery, and the rest of the world
continue with slavery, Africans continuing slaving people. In fact, according
to the UN, in the past seven years, there's been

(34:38):
one hundred thousand Christians killed in Nigeria and in Western Africa,
and there's at least two million Christians, many Catholics that
are slaves to other Africans still existing in Africa. So
maybe put that in your pipe and smoke at WNBA,
which by the way, is lousy basketball. Let's continue with
more line becomes of eight six six four seven, seven

(35:02):
three three seven, Bill cunning and the Great American with
you and all great Americans every Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
You know, my friend there.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
From Oregon, Michael, talked about the great one, not Mark Levin,
who's great, but Rush Limball. I think the four horsemen
of the apocalypse of the last twenty years have been
Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Rush Limball and Charlie Kirk.
And we have a expert on what's going to happen
to America coming up in a few minutes to talk

(35:38):
about the Democratic Socialists of America. Shannon Breem this morning
had one of them on talking about what they want
to do to this country and not for this country.
It's pure and simple communism. But here are the words
of Charlie Kirk about a year before he was murdered
in cold blood at UVU and talking about maybe his
own death and what's coming ahead. Any boy hit it.

Speaker 15 (36:02):
This is not the last of the crazies that will
do this, last of the I know Matt Walsh has to.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Have full time security. I have that full time security.

Speaker 15 (36:09):
It is open season for anybody associated with MAGA. They
can't beat us, so they are trying to deploy the
shock troops of the base of the Democrat Party to
murder all of us. Not an exaggeration. They couldn't care less.
They would delight and laugh if any one of us
were to be murdered. That it's us. We need to
tone down the rhetoric. We get shot at, we get

(36:30):
death threats, and it's our fault because we are kind
of we magnetize all of you MAGA people talking about
how much you love the country and how you want
to stop mass migration. Oh, you don't want to see Aurora,
Colorado overrun with Venezuelan gangs like trend de Agua.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
You deserve to die.

Speaker 15 (36:46):
I hear this all the time, by the way, from
Democrats on social media, where they say, Charlie, be careful
of this kind of language, be awful if something happened
to you. This is the type of mentality built into.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Your average Democrat.

Speaker 15 (36:57):
The average democrat in this country, I truly believe, does
not care if Donald Trump dies. They're just upset it
hasn't happened yet. They are legitimizing and normalizing assassination attempts
against conservatives.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
They're not going to stop everybody.

Speaker 15 (37:11):
And if this is too much for you, go get
drunk and watch football. We have a country to save
and we will defeat these savages, the savages that want
us all dead.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
You included.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
God bless you Charlie Kirk in heaven above. And it
is despicable. What's happening to the defamation against Erica Kirk
by so many on the radical right, including Tucker Curlson
and of course many others. I mus continue, what are
the dangers of democratic socialism that Charlie Kirk spoke so
well about who gave his life for his country, gave

(37:44):
his life for his political beliefs. Colonel rob Man is
to coming up next and more to talk about it,
and that Candice Owens, May God have mercy on you.
Go cunning and the Great American with you every sing.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
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Speaker 2 (38:28):
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Speaker 3 (38:49):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American, of course, for the last
election cycle where two there have been numerous so called
Democratic Socialists of America DSA says, I call them really,
they're communist, really, running a platform of getting rid of
the police, getting rid of cash bonds, getting read now,
get rid of the presidency, get rid of the Supreme Court,
open up the Southern border, bulldoze the prisoners, let all

(39:12):
the inmates go and seize the means of production, which
is seizing control of American business and have bureaucrats run
them from Washington. You think, oh my god, where's Joe
McCarthy when we need them. But the fact of the matter
is they've had great electoral success in blue cities and
blue states, and I think the flag is being a
waved that there's danger and difficulty ahead because they are

(39:36):
in the Democratic Party. And it appears that even Van Jones,
not exactly a conservative, is raised in the alarm, along
with James Carville, saying we can't have this in the
Democrat Party. They're pure and simple communist and if it's
not stopped in the beginning, it will grow and grow
and grow because of a mismanaged college education system in

(39:57):
which colleague kids are shall we say, Indoctrinata educated. One
of the men raising the alarm is Colonel Rob manus
US Air Force retired, has a book out what you
can do about it? And Colonel Rob manis welcome, I
think for the second time to the Bill Cunningham Show. So,
first of all, Colonel, let's talk about the platform which
had great electoral success in New York and Colorado and

(40:18):
Chicago and other places.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
What is the platform of these dsas.

Speaker 14 (40:24):
I want to.

Speaker 16 (40:24):
Destroy the republic bill. Thanks for having me back on
and that's not being hyperbolic either. You know, your opening
was really great. I think we owe an apology to
Joe McCarthy in this country because the man was right.
You know, young men that are on our side of

(40:45):
the aisle, which is the American side, to be honest
with you have been saying that for years in the
younger crowd, and now as an older American, I've come
to see that they've been absolutely right. These people are
not socialists, they are communists. They want to you know,
you went down the laundry list of the things that

(41:05):
they want to destroy and dismantle. You know, one of
the things is the US Senate, which takes a not
just an amendment, a normal amendment to the Constitution, but
all fifty states would have to approve abolishing the United
States Senate according to Article five to the Constitution of
the United States. And that is how far they're going.

(41:27):
And if you think just Mandani and his ilk were
the pocket of success and it's not a big deal,
take a look at the primaries that are coming up
here over the next few weeks. And it states like Arizona,
Kai Ki. Keep an eye on that guy. He is
one of them. He's a communist and he's running against

(41:48):
an entrenched Democrat incumbent. Florida has one running against the
Democrat incumbent. Missouri has one running against the Democrat incumbent.
So this is not just an isolated pocket. That's why
Carville and Jones are sound in the alarm, because they
know the Party of the Democrats is already controlled by

(42:11):
these communists.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
In fact, you can't win a primary it appears without
the permission of the Democratic Socialists, whether it's AOC or
Senator Sanders. In fact, one of the big ones coming
up in August is going to be the primary in Michigan,
where a guy named doctor Abdul who's not a doctor,
not a physician, is running against an incompetent Liberal Democrat

(42:33):
to run against Mike Rogers in Michigan. But some of
the things they want to do could happen, such as
a constitutional amendment. If they get two thirds of the House,
two thirds of the Senate, and get the Senate out
to the states, in which case three fourths of the
states would vote, they can get rid of the presidency,

(42:54):
they can get rid of the US Supreme Court, they
can defund the military. They want no Department of War
or Department of Defense. They want none of that. And
so for those who think we're alarmist, alarmist Hill that
one of their socialist friends run the largest city in
America right now, Mom, Donnie, who wants to get rid

(43:14):
of the landlords and have the Federal Housing Apartment determine where.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
You live and how you live.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And so this isn't something that's arguable in the future,
is present, and it's here, which is why Van Jones
and many other Democrats, liberal Democrats, progressive Democrats say even
they can't stand it. And so when you talk about
getting rid of the Senate, I watched this speech the
other day in Michigan by AOC, probably not your favorite politician,

(43:41):
who may skip running for the Senate seat from New
York against Schumer, and she soon will announce she's going
to run for the presidency. AOC wants to be the president,
and she compares herself to Barack Hussein Obama. Of course,
in six and seven, Obama had no chance to get
the nomination.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
That was already a sewn up.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I mean, he wasn't going to get the nomination it
was going to go to Hillary Clinton, and.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Look what happened.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
And so what happens in this nation if they get
more power, which is their plan, and they passed constitutional amendments,
what happens in this country without a Senate, without a
Supreme Court, without a border, without police, and without a
Department of War, what happens.

Speaker 16 (44:23):
What happens is we devolved back to where we were
under the British government in the seventeen hundreds. My friend,
and we can't let them take our weapons away, our
firearms away. We've got to protect our rights to own firearms.
We've got to protect our rights to physically, protect our
rights to take care of our families and those kind

(44:46):
of things. Because we're not being hyperbolic, they are coming
for it. The march through the institutions is well underway.
The DEI marched through the institutions of the United States
and all of the states down to the local level,
was part of this Marxist effort and continues to this day,
even though we have an administration that's fighting it, and

(45:09):
I'm part of the nonprofit groups that have been fighting
it in the Department of War for years now, and
we are being successful. But all it will take is
when they win enough of the state legislatures to be
able to do those amendments that you talked about. That'll
be the end of it. Except for one place they

(45:30):
can't do the United States Senate because it takes all
fifty states. Because the burbage in the Constitution says eat
without each state's consent, you cannot change the United States Senate.
I'll tell you that's the reason why it's never been
done before.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
You know, Colonel Rob Manez on the way station to
communism will be if this election in November goes the
wrong direction, then in November of twenty eight, if the
Democrats control the House is sent and the Presidency, they're
telling us what they're going to do. For example, it
takes a majority vote in the House and the Senate
and the president's signature to add.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
A state to the Union.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
And they're telling us that what they're going to do
is make Puerto Rico thoroughly democratic, in Washington, d c.
Thoroughly democratic. New States. They then are going to add
four members to the United States Supreme Court, like Justice
Jackson or Soda Mayor.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
They're going to add four.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
They can do that with a majority vote and get
rid of the filibuster.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
The filibuster will be ended.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
And if the filibuster goes away, that means fifty one
Democratic Senators can do all kind of mischief in this country,
including permanently winning the.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
United States Senate.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
You had six to you had four to six more
Senate seats that are all democratic. It is going to
be damn near impossible for the Republicans to have any
control in the Senate. Then get rid of the filibuster.
They can pass whatever law they want to pass. And
then the US Supreme Court with four Supreme Court justices
like Kintanji Jackson and her philosophy. For God's sakes, there'll

(47:04):
be thirteen members of the US Supreme Court, and on
any one panel they're going to have a majority of
people like Soda Mayor. And so we talk about, Okay,
it's not going to happen for five to ten years.
We're talking about these things happening this November and two
years from now. What are their plans in twenty twenty
eight If AOC is the president and you have someone

(47:25):
in charge of the Senate who's a liberal Democrat, and
someone in charge like a Keem Jeffries in the House.
What are their intermediate plans for the country once they
get rid of the filibuster.

Speaker 16 (47:35):
Oh, you've already gone down the list. But that's not
the only problem. You know, those problems are all going
to happen if they get that much power. But here's
the really upsetting part about this communism is you mentioned
the State Senate, the the US Senate candidate in Michigan
and doctor f doul will He and Mandami and those

(47:59):
still of those guys is. They are Islamis that are
wearing communism like a skin suit. So the communists use
their own useful idiots to get communism entrenched into a
society to be able to take it over and take
over the means of production, take over private property and

(48:21):
those kind of things. But the Islamists are using the
communists as their useful idiots so that when they get
in power, you will see Sharia law spread across this
country like you have never thought that it would be possible,
because that is the real function of a lot of
these people like mom Dominie and doctor Abdul, And it

(48:43):
is already happening in states like Texas where Sharia enclaves
are trying to be established to real law civil courts.
Unofficial civil courts have already been used and are being
used in a couple of counties in northwest, the northwest
Dallas metroplex area and those kinds of things. So that
is extremely dangerous. And none of this is hyperbole, Bill,

(49:07):
as you said, as you have said multiple times, we're
just sounding the alarms about things that are happening right now.
This is not about five years in the future, as
you mentioned. You know, in twenty twenty eight, if they
get the presidency and they get the House and they
get the Senate, we are done because they're going to

(49:31):
take over private property. Bombay's already selling what's happening. He's
going after the apartment buildings, the landlords in New York City,
and guess what's happening. The rents under his rent control
policies and those things that he's already implemented. They're higher
than they've ever been before in my lifetime. And I'm
almost sixty five years old. So rents are through the

(49:54):
roof because of the communist policies that are being put
in place. You can expect that that will expand out.
They're going to try to eliminate the Department of War
to the maximum extent possible. They're going to eliminate ICE,
and we will not have a society anymore that calls
that can call on American citizens to protect it, because
we will have the government that we desired when we

(50:18):
passed the Constitution of the United States anymore number one.
And people will be able to just come into this
country and declare that their citizens whenever and however they want,
and there will be nobody to stop them or enforce
our laws because those laws will be eliminated. When they
eliminate ICE, they will eliminate our immigration law, and then

(50:40):
it's a free for all.

Speaker 12 (50:41):
I'm looking that once that happens, well, you.

Speaker 16 (50:44):
Better have plenty of guns and AMMO and train and
talk to your neighbors because once that happens are going
to start protecting themselves.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
We'll never get it back. I'm looking at the website
of the Democratic Socialists off America dot org. The headline
is DSA's mission is to unite workers into a powerful
political movement to win the battle for democracy and change
the world. We demand that all jobs in America be unionized,
whether they're teachers, auto workers, tech, workers, nurses, graduate students.

(51:15):
We've joined the movement to defend abortion rights and help
win ballid initiatives from Ohio to Kansas, to New York
to California. We've also organized three hundred and fifty thousand
college students to demand the dismandling of the war machine
in this country. Our goal is to put workers in
charge of the government through a new democratic constitution rewritten

(51:36):
that established as civil, political and democratic rights for all,
is based on proportional representation, and a single federal legislature,
ends the role of money in politics, eliminating the presidency,
the power of the US Supreme Court and to rule
and with the best interests of unionized workers in mind.
That comes right out of Karl Marx. That is pure

(51:59):
and communism. And they're telling us on their website what
they're going to do and with Mom Donnie. Rents have
risen because you can't freeze rent without freezing expenses. The
landlords are saying, the great majority are not big black
rock institutions. They're mom and pop operations that have four
and six units from which they make a living. You

(52:20):
can't freeze the rent without freezing expenses, and so the
expenses are rising to an extent that their families cannot
keep the apartment buildings, which means the government takes over
Section eight housing. And their website says Unionize workers are
the only workers whose rights we will recognized within a
working class alternative to the Democratic Party. Capitalists and Democrats

(52:42):
and the far right will continue to fight the workers
in America.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Our goal is to.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Defeat the right and to build a real democracy, and
we start against the capitalistic class and those who invest.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
In the stock market.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
And so if you have like a four toh one
k or have some retirement in the stock market, they
want to seize your money. And when that when, if
they control the House and sound the residency, they can
do that.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 16 (53:07):
Yeah, the the Democrat Party, under the guise of being
real Democrats, have been trying to seize four one k
is for a long time. And that's been a plan
that's been floating out there. But but listen to what
you just read, uh bill uh go go Compare that
to the Soviet Union's constitution. Compare that to the English

(53:29):
version of the Communists the People's Republic of China's uh constitution. Uh,
and then compare that to UH to Nazi Germany's UH constitution,
and I'm guarantee you you will not just see similarities.
You're going to see identical language, identical language. And I'm

(53:51):
concerned that what we see evolving here inside the United
States is this mixture of Nazism, MAO is Soviet Communism.
And then you have these Islamists that are also integrated
into this movement, which makes it even more dangerous because

(54:13):
all of those ideologies, they are responsible for killing hundreds
of millions of citizens by their own governments in the
history of this world than any other type of government.
And that is what I'm afraid that we are facing.
And the facts proved that I'm probably right.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
The platform calls for replacing the Presidency and the US
Supreme Court with institutions subordinate to Congress based upon lines
drawn by the Congress. The book is let's talk about
your book, about minute remaining, the books, the call to arms,
How do you get your book?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Which is what you can do about it.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
This is a serious a threat to our country we've
had in the two hundred and fifty years plus. This
is number one, because, as Abraham Lincoln said, no foreign
power will ever take over the United States of America
and then never drink a cup of water from the
Ohio or stand on the top of the Blue Ridge
and look, when American falls, it will be internal that

(55:13):
internally Americans will determine the country's not worth saving. Colonel
rob manis what is your book?

Speaker 9 (55:21):
What you think about?

Speaker 14 (55:22):
It?

Speaker 16 (55:22):
Is the question that I get all the time when
I'm talking to citizens, and that is, well, what can
I do about a specific issue that's got people energized
or mad and those kind of things? And you can
find it at robmanus dot com. There's a bonus chapter
you can get for free. Just sign up at robminus
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(55:43):
ads there. For the book, you'll go to the Amazon.
You can buy the book in paperback, hardback, or get
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The proceeds that go to a five O one C
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there to educate Americans on what they remind them on

(56:05):
what they really are. They are individuals that they have inherited,
what individuals have put together in this Declaration of Independence
we're celebrating this year and the constitution of the United
States that grew out of it and the country that
grew about it out of it. And yes, we can
do something about it. And it starts with the individual,
and it starts at the local level. And I talk

(56:26):
about what I've learned in my life growing up in
West Tennessee, around West Tennesseans and learning about people like
Congressman David Crockett and those kind of folks and great
American individualists like that Eddy Roosevelt. I talk about how
I've learned to deal with problems and look through that
lens of American individualism.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, Colonel, Thank
you very much. Thank you, Bill, God blessed. Let's continue
with more Bill Cunningham, the Great American Live with you
every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham to hear the democratic
socialist talk like this morning with on Fox News with

(57:08):
MS Bream. If you like open borders and no police
and no jails and no Defense Department, and guaranteed income
for all Americans, no medical expenses, Medicare for all government
owning businesses, free college. Everything's free at no one else's expense.
You have a candidate democratic socialist. Let's face it, we

(57:28):
have a place like that already. It's called Cuba. Continue
with more Jeff Creer. Next, Phill Cunningham with you every
Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course,
Jeff crue Air, as a New Orleans native, unfortunately host

(57:49):
a couple of talk shows in and around New Orleans,
as many columns at town hall dot com town hall
dot com, which I love, and Jeff crue Air, Welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
it appears that the Congress is about to take their
August break. Of course, they need a break. They've been
working so hard, so much getting done, and because of

(58:10):
what's happening in the Senate with Mitch McConnell, who's I
think is on life support. Reports of his death may
be premature, but who knows. Add on top of that,
the five or six Republican US senators that loath Donald
Trump and will do nothing to help them. Add on
top of that, in the Congress, I guess there's some
minor difficulty passing anything because you have several Republicans and

(58:31):
the Congress itself that will not vote with Donald Trump
on anything. So when you have all that going on,
I loved your column about amid the chaos, Congress takes
another vacation, give us a full report on that bill.

Speaker 17 (58:44):
I'd great to be with you. You know, most jobs
you have to work, and if you don't show up,
you don't get paid. In Congress, they only work about
one hundred and nineteen days a year now, that is
less than one third of the year, and they get
paid a full salary, and they get paid tremendous benefits, perks,

(59:04):
all kinds of privileges that they get that the average
American can't even imagine. And of course they get the
inside the stock trade and they get all these tips
on stocks. They make millions of dollars on stock trades
that they won't ban, they won't impose termal limits that
the American people want. So they've got it pretty good.
They've got the good life, and they constantly want to
be on recess vacation that they don't really want to

(59:28):
be up there working. So every time you turn around,
they're on recess and they're going to be leaving again
on Thursday. So I mean, you know, have they solved anything?

Speaker 14 (59:37):
No?

Speaker 17 (59:37):
I mean, have they passed what we want them to pass? No?
But there they're going on another recess.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
That's kind of the dsay approach. The Democratic Socialists of America.
The DSAS are saying, get rid of it, get rid
of that, get rid of the Senate, get rid of
the presidency, get rid of the US Supreme Court. Just
have proportional representation. And in the House of Representatives, when
I column, I guess the approval factor of the Congress

(01:00:03):
is about ten percent. I think flatulence as a higher
approval factor than ten percent. And so you have ten
percent of the people agreeing. You got the Democratic Socialists
winning elections. They're saying, overturn the system, ignore fundamental aspects
of the American Republic. So the DSA is playing off
the idea, which I think is a good one in

(01:00:23):
a sense that things aren't functioning, things aren't right. In fact,
they would take us farther to the left to make
things even worse. But can you understand how young Americans
are generally well educated, well indoctrinated, believe that the system
in Washington is not working. And you seem to be
saying the same thing. And I'm saying they're right about
that the system is not working. Now their remedy for

(01:00:44):
the solution would make it worse. There, would make it
a lot worse for the problem. But can you understand
how young folks that are highly educated, full of the
urine and vinegar, oh four hundred thousand dollars in student
loan debt, they have a job as a barista at Starbucks,
maybe they're not happy with the system.

Speaker 17 (01:01:01):
And justifiably said, I mean, you remember something called the
American dream, right, Bill, I mean, you could start a family,
you could buy a house, you could live on one income.
Mom could stay home, you could have kids raised in
a beautiful environment free of crime. And that doesn't exist.
So they can't do it. They're living at home. When
they do get married, they have to rent. They don't

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have the kind of a situation that we had in
previous generations, so there's alienation. Of course, they've been taught
a lot of crap about America in the school system,
so they don't have that patriotism that previous generations did.
So we've done them a disservice in all kinds of
different ways. And Bill We've saddled them with thirty nine
point five trillion dollars in debt, and I'm watching Congress

(01:01:46):
that just you know, paying for this, paying for that,
authorizing this, and that they don't make any cuts to
offset them. They just add more to the debt. It's irresponsible,
but that's how they operate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Well, some of the stats here from your column. Of course,
they're taking off Thursday, then they return on August to
thirty first and work a few days, then leave again
on September third for the Labor Day recess until September
the fourteenth, and then when October rolls around, both Houses
of Congress will be on recess for the entire month
of October and the first week in November. So if

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you take overall in twenty twenty six, the House is
schedule to work one hundred and nineteen days sentence one
fifty eight. They get nothing done when they're doing that.
They may go on to average hundred and seventy five
thousand dollars a year, plus all the benefits you have
ten years in the Congress, you get a full pension,
you get that amount of money for the rest of
your life. Also death gratuity, payments, health care benefits, air,
significant office allowances, plus all the money you can steal.

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It was amazing to me when Lindsey Graham unfortunately died,
he was only worth one point five million dollars. People
were saying, what's wrong with you, Lindsey? We can steal
a lot more money than that, and the salaries are
through the roof, and I'm looking, how buy this number?
On the debt we owe about forty trillion the next
three years. It'll be forty five to forty six trillion.

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Every day of every week of every month of every year,
we borrow three billion dollars a day in new money
to pay interest on the national debt. And that's going
to be paid by those in the thirties, forties, and fifties.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
And we can't afford that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
We cannot afford to borrow every day three billion dollars
to pay interest. It's like you have ten credit cards,
take out another one to pay interest on the other ten,
and no one, including Trump, Democrats, Republicans, say that debt's
a problem. When will the chickens come home to roost
on the debt? Jeff crew Air, when will that happen?

Speaker 17 (01:03:36):
It could happen any day. I mean, it could happen
very soon. You know, we were doing some good things.
We had Doze, but it only lasted a few months
and then they got rid of it, and then it's
back to spending as usual. It's back to the same
practices that they've been doing for decades. I mean, the
debt is out of control, and yes, I mean we

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can't keep doing it. I mean it is going to
have a massive effect on our economy and every American
and I think it's going to be sooner rather than later.
And you get Republicans or just as guilty as a Democrat.
Sidic goes up, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat.
You know, Biden was the all time champion as far
as adding to the national debt. Trump's going to beat

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his record in this four years at the rate we're going. So,
the only hope that we have is this Fraud Commission
can can get down to business and really seriously go
after this fraud that could maybe do something about the
spending levels that we have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
How about this Social Security Administrator says there's at least
one hundred billion dollars a year just in Social Security
payments made to illegal, dead or people that are fictitious.
Add on top aout one hundred billion dollars on Medicare
and Medicaid fraud to individuals either dead, illegal, or made up.
We have massive student loan fraud from overseas interests that

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loot the system. One number reported by the OMB about
two weeks ago. They can identify five hundred billion dollars
every year in fraud. So the federal spending now is
north of seven trillion dollars. In twenty twenty, which wasn't
that long ago, federal spending was four point five trillion.
Now it's north iss seven trillion dollars. And I had

(01:05:21):
hoped for DOGE. But I assuming that things go poorly
in November, and assuming the Democrats come in, happy days
are here again. And assuming the worst, let's say twenty
twenty eight rolls around and President Kamala Harris and Governor
Andy Basheer are president and vice president. A King Jeffries

(01:05:41):
controls the House and the Senate is controlled I guess
by AOC who's the new Democratic senator from New York.
Can you imagine what they're going to do to this
economy into our political system that day is coming.

Speaker 17 (01:05:55):
You know, they're gonna rig it whereby Republicans can never
win again. And Republicans have nobody to blame that themselves.
They've been given this rare opportunity of power in the
Congress and in the White House to get the job done.
Let's go back to the first two years of the
first Trump administration. They didn't get the job done. They
were thrown out, Democrats took control, and the president was

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impeached twice. We're looking at the same thing happening in November,
Democrats taking control, Trump getting impeded, cheerings, investigations, chaos, leading
the way for a Democrat to win in twenty twenty eight.
So yeah, we really need to put the focus on
the Republicans. They have the power to get it done.
They've got control of the Congress in the White House,

(01:06:39):
but I mean they're blowing it. I've always had the
Belief Bill. The Republicans are more comfortable in the minority.

Speaker 16 (01:06:47):
They like complaining, they.

Speaker 17 (01:06:49):
Like fundraising, they like saying what they're going to do,
but they don't actually like doing it. So when they
get up there and they have leadership that they fail.
So they're good at complaining campaigning and fundraising, but they're
not really good at leading.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Now you point out that House Speaker Mike Johnson, a
Conservative Republican, is trying to garner support for ninety five
billion dollars of emergency spending. That would include seventy three
billion immediately for the Pentagon, twelve billion for farmers, ten
billion for state grants to implement election integrity measures. And

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we're talking about there about one hundred and thirty billion
dollars on an emergency basis unsupport of our productivity.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
So that's just all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
These are conservative Republicans that are spending money like this.
And as my friend Congressman Warren Davison says, bankrupt nations
are difficult to defend. We are completely bankrupt, and except
for radio talk shows like You and I, it is
a non issue in Washington. But at some point, the Japanese,
the Chinese, the Middle East is going to dump our

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debt and we're going to have an emergency crisis that
the only resolution is going to be is to print
more money. In other words, if we don't have enough
money in order to pay the bills that we've currently
have over seven trillion dollars a year, and they start
dumping our debt, which means the money that we go
into the market to borrow to pay our bills. The

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interest rates go from four percent to five percent to
ten percent, in which case we're a banana republic. And
who's going to come save us? The Saudi Arabians they're
in trouble. How about the Chinese going to see America,
we will save you from your own spending habits.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
And that's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
And you say, despite Republican majorities in house in the Senate,
real reform is elusive. All the GOP majorities have done
is grow the debt, continue with the bloated programs, and shun
any reform. You could talk about, how about Bush forty
three double the national debt in eight years eight years.
Then you got Barack Hussein Obama double the national debt.

(01:08:53):
Then four years of Donald Trump two trillion dollars a year,
and then the old time spender was Joe Biden one
point nine trillion dollars in emergency spending to bail out
cities and counties. He had another seven billion. And the
four years of Donald Trump once again has got another
seven trillion. In fact, by if you and I are
still around. In five years, the national debt will be

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fifty trillion dollars. So every day we're gonna have to
borrow four billion dollars a day to pay interest on
the national debt. And who's going to loan is that money?
I asked you that question, Jeff Career, are you concerned?

Speaker 17 (01:09:28):
I'm concerned. And I appointed Jamie Diamond, who's a CEO of
you know, JP Morgan Chase, and he says he wouldn't
buy securities, he wouldn't buy stocks right now. He's concerned
about the economy, concerned about the direction we're going. So yeah,
I mean, I think someone like that as a clue
as to what could be coming. And you know, it's

(01:09:49):
just more the same that we hear from the Washington
just you know, adding to this deficit, adding to this debt,
and you know, the things that we want, the taxpayers want,
the Republican voter, what the days wants is not done.
In the column, I point out a fourteen point proposal
by Chip Roy all kinds of things that should be

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done by the Congress before the midterms. I bet they
don't do one of them. I bet they don't accomplish
one of the fourteen ideas that he has, because one
of the problems is they're barely going to be there.
I mean, they're not going to be there just a
few days between now and the midterms.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Maybe we don't deserve I mean, I think we deserve better.
And Republicans, hopefully are the adults and the Democrats are
the spending children drunk on short leave. But I'm thinking
if Republicans don't do these things, I think we're so
demoralized we don't want to vote. Why vote in November
for more of the same when nothing changes. That's assuming
you're a normal person, assuming you work and have a family,

(01:10:47):
and you care about the country, your bills to pay,
and you send these conservatives to Washington to solve problems
and to create more problems. Now, the Iranian war, I
don't know if it's going well or poorly. At this point.
We're bombing the crap out of them. Need an additional
how about the defense budget was one trillion dollars now
it needs to be one point five trillion. We've got

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to borrow more money to bomb Iranians have to borrow
more money to pay out illegals, all their benefits are
retired American like my producer Tony Bender gets Social Security
for eighteen hundred dollars a month. Well, if you're an illegal,
you get three thousand dollars a month.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Can you justify that?

Speaker 14 (01:11:25):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:11:25):
I can't justify any of that, And I can't justify
one point five trillion dollar defense budget. I'd vote against
that in a heartbeat. I mean, just think of all
the trillions we spent in a rock in Afghanistan and
what did that get us?

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Nothing?

Speaker 17 (01:11:39):
I mean, why wasn't that spent here on the home front,
on people that are veterans and people that are in need,
all the infrastructure problems that we have here. I mean,
I'm tired of this global policeman. I mean I'm tired
of propping up all these other countries and all these
international organizations and all of this focus away from the
American people. I mean, that's why we elected President Trump,

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That's why we elected this Republican Congress.

Speaker 16 (01:12:04):
And I mean, you.

Speaker 17 (01:12:04):
Know, I heard Mitch McConnell was supposedly talking on the
phone with Scott Jennings about Ukraine and about Ukraine Iran,
What about Kentucky? What about what about the people in
his state. Doesn't even care about the people. And that's
about Lindsay Graham. He was in Ukraine and Israel, and
what did he do for South Carolina? I mean, when

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is the focus going to be on the American people?

Speaker 9 (01:12:27):
Bill?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
I worry about Darlene Graham. I guess she's going to
be She's in office now. And that's Lindsey Graham's sister.
When she did an interview with my friend Sean Hannity,
she talked about the needs of the American people, which
I agree with, but she sounded more like a Democrat
and a Republican. I like to know what she thinks
about pro life. I like to know what she thinks
about the southern border. I like to know what she
thinks about cutting federal spending. And I don't Does Kentucky

(01:12:53):
have a senator? I mean Mitch McConnell. No, I don't know.
I have a lot of friends in Kentucky. What about
that such it's awful. They need a hospice care In
the Senate, he's walking around with you with a poop
peg and he's got IV stuck in both arms. And
he's in charge of the Rules Committee of the United
States Senate. I mean, he makes Joe Biden look healthy,

(01:13:14):
and it's unbelievable.

Speaker 17 (01:13:17):
It is absolutely atrocious. And then you know, you had
the Republican who was gone for four months and he
just took off king like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Yeah, the guy from I'm depressed, I'm depressed too, But
this Thomas Kane, Republican New Jersey said, I'm depressed. I'm
not coming to work for four months, but keep the
chicks coming to my checking account.

Speaker 13 (01:13:36):
What right?

Speaker 17 (01:13:38):
Yeah, he was paid. He didn't tell his constituents, he
didn't tell his colleagues. Nobody knows. That kind of stuff
needs to be reformed. We can't have that, and we
can't have this hospice care going on up in Capitol Hill.
I mean, it's crazy. Mitch McConnell doesn't know what's going on.
He can't move, he can't talk. I'm not even sure
what his condition is, if he's alive or dead. I

(01:14:00):
feel sorry for the people of Kentucky. They don't have representation,
and that makes it harder to have anything. You only,
you're supposed to have fifty three Republicans, you got fifty
two right now, and then you've got Murkowski and Collins
and all these Rhinos and Tillis and Mornon and Cassidy,
all these people that did hate Trumps. What a bad situation?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
What enoplifting conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
I guess the solution is give it to the communist
give it to the Democratic Socialists.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
They're going to fix things right, That'll be great with them. Gosh,
we got to run.

Speaker 17 (01:14:32):
I think the best thing Republicans have going forward. We
can always point to the left how crazy they are.
They can't do anything, but they can say.

Speaker 16 (01:14:39):
The left is going to be worse.

Speaker 17 (01:14:41):
That's that's their argument.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Basically, what what what a solution we have? It's either
bad or worse. My solution is to have bad or worse.
A Congressman who's depressed and the Senate, former Senate majority
leader's got a poop bag, has got ivs and them
those are the leadership and Mike Johnson conservative probably from
your homestay of Louisiana. Once in emergency spending bill for

(01:15:04):
one hundred and fifty billion dollars off to the side,
spend more money.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
Yeah, yeah, all right, we want money.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
That all we do is talk. I wish I could
do more than just talk. But Jeff crue Air New Orleans.
Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. You're a
great American.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
Thanks Jeff, thank you, Thank you, Bill, God bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
I'm depressed. Maybe I should take off for four months.
Republican Tom kim Keen of New Jersey. I'm depressed. I
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democratic socialists. Are really communist see socialist takeover by the
ballot box, then give us communism. Communists takeover by the
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(01:17:20):
great column up on the so called data centers. And
first of all, Kathy Hochl and some others hate them.
In fact, they're in the state of Ohio. I live
in Ohio, and about sixty five percent of ohio ones
at the first blush don't like data centers. I don't
know why, but we need information upon which we can
cast an informed a ballot based upon actual facts. For

(01:17:44):
those listening, what is a data center? Where are they
and what did they seek to do? Give me a
full report.

Speaker 9 (01:17:51):
Hey, Bill, great to join you again.

Speaker 18 (01:17:52):
Yeah, data centers are the I guess, the heart of
the artificial intelligence revolution that we entered into about three
years ago, and it's growing all the time and people
using AI for all sorts of different things. AI is
handled in data centers, and the data center is like
a big warehouse. But it's filled with servers and boards

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and graphics processing units that run artificial intelligence. It used
to be the data centers are running the Internet and
cloud storage, but increasingly and running these AI systems, and
so we have these things being built all over the
place to support AI. And you're right about about sixty
five seventy percent of people in the US are afraid

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of them. Think it's a bad idea. They've been getting
a lot of bad press, but they're being built all
over and I think the builders are getting smarter about
working with people as well. Start Up twenty twenty four,
we had about twenty seven hundred data centers in the
United States. Now that's over forty three hundred and continues
to grow. My numbers are from a group called USA

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Data Centers. Ohio now has two hundred and five data
centers and built fifty three of them in the last
two years. That's up about eighty eight percent from the prior.
So we have these being built all over the country
and there's all kinds of bad press about them. We
could talk about what people should be concerned about, but

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they are a factive life right now, and in.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Fact, yeah, yeah, you go ahead, we need them because
all that I have one of my I have devices
one of my left hand once in front of me,
laptop off to the side. Ten years ago I had
only one device. Now I got multiple devices. I know
that AI is going to solve many cancer difficulties. In fact,
cancer trials go through an AI application and it runs

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through billions of possibilities. It's wonderful as far as those issues.
So why does it have such a negative connotation? Give
me the two or three reasons people are frightened of
the unknown?

Speaker 18 (01:20:01):
Well, I think the progressives have come out against it,
and a lot of the regular people as well.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
So there's some reasons.

Speaker 18 (01:20:07):
First off, I think the data center builders, and we're
talking now the people that are the hyperscalers. We're talking
Amazon and Meta and Microsoft and Google and Oracle.

Speaker 9 (01:20:18):
I think they went and.

Speaker 18 (01:20:19):
Built a lot of these data centers without the people
really knowing about it, and they had non disclosure agreements
and they didn't disclose them, and then people found all
of a sudden they had these big data centers near
the residential areas and they're like big warehouses. You know,
nobody wants a warehouse next to their house. And then
it's gotten a lot of bad press as well. There's

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a lot of press saying they're using too much power
and your electric bills are going up, they're using too
much water, and your water prices are going to go
up if your water shortages. And then we have the
green folks of course saying, well, they're using too much
electricity and they're causing man made global warming. So we've
had a whole bunch of people come out against them.
As matter of fact, we have.

Speaker 9 (01:21:00):
We've had.

Speaker 18 (01:21:02):
It was UH Representative Acosio Cortes and Senator Bernie Sanders
that actually introduced the bill a couple of months ago
to try and ban all data center construction in the
United States. So, you know, there's been a lot of
folks that have come out against them, and there's a
lot of misinformation. Now the good news is these people

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building these data centers are being more sensible.

Speaker 9 (01:21:26):
They're starting to talk to the local.

Speaker 18 (01:21:28):
Communities, let them know what they're doing, and pointing out
that in many places they're building their own power plants
and in that in that case, your electricity prices aren't
going up if they're building their own plants. They are
also ways to UH to minimize the water use, so
it doesn't affect the local local communities. And then of

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course they should be built out in areas that are
not next to residences. They should be zoned industrial and
maybe out a little bit, not right next to the city.
So the good thing is that people building these centers
are taking taking doing a better job of informing people
and and working with local communities. So that is the
good news. But this is this is something that's happening.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Hey, let's get into this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
In Ohio, for example, we have more water than we
can ever use between the Ohio River Great and Little
Miami Lake Erie. We got all the water in the world.
Places like Arizona, Colorado, they got some difficulties. And I'm
told by a little birdie out of the White House
they're about to have an executive order and EO that
requires all new data centers be energy positive for the

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electrical grid. In other words, maybe modular nukes are something
that character but going forward, Trump's going to require these
data centers to be a positive and unused energy must
go into the grid.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
And up to this point that's not been the case.

Speaker 18 (01:22:48):
Well, this is already in process. Mister Trump came up
with something called the Ratepayer Protection Plan, and then and
back in February, all the big hyperscalers sign this, Meta
and Oracle.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
And Amazon and Google.

Speaker 18 (01:23:02):
They all agreed that they would pay for any increase
in electricity costs. Now we also have the utilities that
are signing the rate pair Protection Plan. We have utilities
all across the country, and even state governors are signing these.
So the data centers now are working to In many cases,
what they're doing is building their own power plants right
on site. And what these are typically are gas fired

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power plants, so they're not taking electricity from the grid.
If it's a big data center, they're taking it. They're
building their own power plant and this will keep rates
from going up for consumers. Now, as far as water,
there's a lot of misrepresentation in the press, and there
are several different.

Speaker 9 (01:23:43):
Ways to cool. You need water typically the.

Speaker 18 (01:23:45):
Cool servers, the boards, and the AI systems, unless it's
a small data center. I was in one there Houston recently.
They didn't use any.

Speaker 14 (01:23:54):
Water at all.

Speaker 9 (01:23:54):
It was all air cooled.

Speaker 18 (01:23:56):
But if you just bring in water and you do
evaporative cool and you keep you keep evaporating water and
you use a lot of water. That's not the way
data centers should be designed. More and more now is
they're putting in contained systems where they use water to
cool the boards and the servers. But then that water
is captured within a closed system, it condenses and they

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reuse it again. And when you do that, you don't
use much water. And then there's UH. People are actually
coming out with systems that are using UH that are
non conducting fluids, so you don't use any water at all.
They're using fluids to UH to handle the boards. Now,
the key for communities, states and counties is that the

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people building data centers have to be transparent. They need
to tell them what they're doing in terms of power
and water. And if they do that, then they want
to make sure that the water is being recycled and
they're not using a lot of water. And if it's
a big data center, they're they're building their own power plant.
So this can be done and and it is. You know,

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more and more of the people building data centers that
are working with the local communities.

Speaker 9 (01:25:04):
So that's a good side.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
And the other issue is the Democrats will latch onto
this issue and the big race locally shared brown as
an alkalid, a democratic socialist trending toward my god communism,
who thinks data centers are evil, same as Governor Hockel.
She has issued an executive order banning large data centers

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in the state of New York. So are states, once again,
like blue states, gonna lose out in this because the
rates are going to be higher because of the policies
of government in those states. And since in Ohio, for example,
we were selected by Joe Kernan of CNBC as the
number one state of the nation for new businesses, and
it's because partially we're open to the idea of data

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centers as long as it's positive for the average consumer.
So tell the American people what is Hochel doing, plus
many other blue state governors, which is hurting.

Speaker 17 (01:25:55):
Their ost Blue states?

Speaker 18 (01:25:56):
The Blue states are falling behind because they're trying to
ban data center the centers or now New York passed
a temporary statewide ban Governor Hochal.

Speaker 9 (01:26:05):
That's the first state in the nation. But if you
look at where these.

Speaker 18 (01:26:08):
Data centers are being built, it's not in the Blue states.
In the last two years, California's built twenty data centers,
but that's only a seven percent increase. New York's only
built six data centers in two years, Colorado only won,
Massachusetts has built the zero data centers, and you have
places like Indiana where they've built eighty four new data centers,

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Ohio fifty three. In Texas they built over two hundred
and six data centers. And part of the reason is
these states still allow gas fired power plants to power them.
And that's the big winner right now. People are building
a lot of gas plants. In Illinois, for example, they're
banning gas plants and so you know, why would you

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go build a data center there?

Speaker 9 (01:26:53):
You can't.

Speaker 18 (01:26:54):
You can't do it with wind and solar. You have
to have twenty four hour power. So yeah, the in general,
there are some blue states that are a little bit
of an exception. Virginia is one. They've been building a lot.
But a lot of these blue states are going to
lose out on the economy. And there's there's huge amounts
of jobs, huge amounts of tax revenue, and a lot

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of economic growth.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
And Trump's rate payer protection plan is the key. The citizens,
especially in states like Ohio, got to understand when important
elections come up. We got a big one in November
that the Democratic Socialists want to go back to the
to the horse and buggy era and Republicans, whether whether
it's you know, in Ohio with the wine or many

(01:27:37):
other states, Indiana, Bron, Governor Bron's doing a great job there.
We're going to have lower rates. For example, this is
a different matter. I just filled up my gas tank
my Chevy Blazer three dollars and forty nine cents a
gallon in Midwest.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
The national average is high because of the Blue States,
and business is bad in the Blue States.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
And these data centers create.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Thousands of jobs to begin with, and then hundreds or
thousands of jobs going forward. And as long as they're
a net positive for the grid, that's wonderful for business.
And the states like Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, we have more
water than we can ever use, and we can keep
the water cooled aspects of a power of these of
these data centers, and it puts to work thousands of

(01:28:20):
Americans living in those areas, and they fake sucking sound.
Will be jobs coming out of the Blue states like
Illinois and uh and maybe Maine and certainly New York, California.
Correct the sucking sound is the economic activity leaving the
Blue states for the red ones.

Speaker 14 (01:28:37):
Yep.

Speaker 18 (01:28:37):
So again, the people in Ohio, what they need to
do is they need to get the plans from the
people building data centers.

Speaker 9 (01:28:43):
They need to disclose what.

Speaker 18 (01:28:44):
They're going to do for power, and what they're going
to do for water, and where they're going to build
these so they're not right next door to a bunch
of houses, right And if they find the locations and
you know, they're building their own power plant, if it's
a big one, and they're recirculating water, all those things
should allow them to put in something that really grows
the community and can be a good thing. By the way,

(01:29:06):
this artificial intelligence has become a new reason for progressive
politicians to demand bigger government. Senator Elizabeth Warren has proposed
a federal tax on all artificial intelligence because she does
she doesn't want the profits to go.

Speaker 9 (01:29:20):
To the big people. She wants the money to go
to the little people. Redistributed.

Speaker 18 (01:29:24):
And then Bernie Sanders has called for the federal government
to seize fifty percent ownership of all big AI companies.
So you know, there's always a reason to make government bigger,
and AI is the newest one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Well, you have a great column. Also Canadian Prime Minister
Mark Karney. Of course all of us have gotten quite
a bit of smoke from Canada and he's retreating from
climate control policies. Is Mark Karney, Are Canadians seeing the light?

Speaker 9 (01:29:50):
Yeah, this is really a big story.

Speaker 18 (01:29:53):
Mark Carney, the new Prime minister, says that the climate
plan under Justin Trudeau was too expensive and too divisive.

Speaker 9 (01:30:00):
He's taken off the.

Speaker 18 (01:30:01):
Emission to requirements for energy companies, for oil and gas,
and this is huge. Mark Carney was appointed by the
UN Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez in twenty nineteen. Carney was
the United Nations Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance
and he served in that position at the UN for

(01:30:21):
six years. He was a big climate change promoter, and
now he's Prime Minister in Canada. He's saying, well, you know,
our missions are going to go up, but we want
better policy. So it's really a huge change and we're
seeing this really all over.

Speaker 9 (01:30:34):
It's part of the.

Speaker 18 (01:30:35):
Green breakdown that I talk about in my book, and
people are moving away from climate alarmtism, alarmism and then
zero energy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
One other issue is modular type small nuclear power plants
right now, it's close. They've been used on US nuclear
powered submarines for about fifty years. It's slow rolling out.
Explain how that's going to solve maybe most of our
electricity problems in the future, these modular nukes.

Speaker 9 (01:31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:31:03):
Well, one of the reasons they've been building putting gas
in is they can do it quickly. All these guys
want to put up these data centers in two or
three years, and the big nuclear plants have taken a
long time. Someone them will have taken ten years or so.
But last May, President Trump signed four executive orders on
nuclear and one of them said he wanted a quadruple
or nuclear capacity by twenty fifty. And they've also funded

(01:31:26):
I think eleven I guess they're providing loans for eleven
small modular reactor plans across the country. Four of those
are now up and running as demonstrators. So there's a
possible big new nuclear transition and we may see these
data centers powered by small modular reactors.

Speaker 14 (01:31:45):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:31:45):
The thing is it's still a little bit experimental, so
they have to get these things up, they have to
get the costs down. But the idea here again is
you would build these in a factory, these SMRs, you'd
be able to put them on a truck or on
a train and bring them to the site where they're
going to be set out. And so they should be
able to get the costs down and the time to
build down. But we'll just have to see, you know,

(01:32:06):
we hope that occurs, but still a little bit experimental.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
And you have a great islumn about a column about
the AI revolution is leaving green energy states way behind
and it's more expensive. In fact, I have another column
here which relates to what you're saying, Steve Gorham, and
that is CNBC not exactly. A conservative outlet has listed
the ten least affordable states to live in America and

(01:32:31):
the ten best states to live in America. And may
I say the best states to live in affordability and
utilities are about the one of the seven or eight
measurements is number one Missouri, Ohio, Alabama, Affordable, West Virginia, Kansas, Iowa, Wyoming,
North and South Dakota, Kentucky and Tennessee. And you can

(01:32:52):
guess which are the most expensive states to live in?
And they all, shall we say blue states, very expensive,
which are number one is California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, New York,
Rhode Island, Connecticut, Washington, and Illinois all have above average rents,
lack of job creation, and utility expenses plus insurance cost

(01:33:14):
and so you know, the people are voting with their
feet to leave the blue blue states for.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
The red ones.

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
Here it is, well, they are in Illinois.

Speaker 18 (01:33:21):
By the way, Illinois build a few data centers, but
they also have this law that says if you have
a gas plant or coal plant, you got to shut
it down by as early as twenty thirty. And so
we just have a case here. They have a gas
plant called the Elwood power Plant one point three gigawatts,
and the company got the message they have to shut
it down by twenty thirty. So they said, well, we're

(01:33:42):
not going to wait. So they're taking the plant and
they're putting it on trucks and they're shipping it down
to Texas flatbed trucks, this whole gas fired power plant.
So Texas is building all these data centers and needs power.
And by the way, it's hard to get a gas turbine.
They the elite times have gotten to be a low,
but the taken power plants right out of Illinois. And

(01:34:03):
if these these greens, if these green states say hey,
you know you can't, you can't use a gas power plant,
they're all going to head to They're going to head
to UH Red States, and then they're going to put
them up there next to the data centers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
And the blue estates Cost of living. Skyrocket's got to run,
Steve Gorm. How did the American people get a hold
of you and your columns in your book? Where things
are they?

Speaker 18 (01:34:24):
Yeah, they can get my book Green Breakdown from my website,
Steve Gorham g O R E H a M dot com.
If they buy my books there, I'll send them a
signed copy and Green Breakdown in addition to be having
these science and economics. It's a colored paperback. It's got
about one hundred and fifty colors, sidebars which are real headlines.
Here's one a Swedish scientist advocates advocates eating humans to

(01:34:48):
combat climate change. There's actually a professor that would give
lectures and then at the end he would ask the
audience whether they're willing to try human flesh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
Cannibal cannibal Ism by the left, that's good stuff. Gotta run,
Steve Gorm your wonderful executive director Climate Science Coalition. Once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Steve, You're
a great American. The truth will set us free. Thank you, Steve.
Let's continue with Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live with
you every Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
By Billy Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Before we left tonight, I want to get a live
update from David Rubin from Shiloh, Israel, about what's happening
in that great nation state of ours. The actually the
only real friend we have in the Middle East is
of course the Jews. Bill Cunningham with.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
You every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Know bye, Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, what's
happening now in Israel's to remain of the world, especially
to the United States. It seems like every week or
two there's new events taking place instead of finishing the job.

(01:36:02):
I think President Trump is pussy footing around when he
shouldn't be. Recently, the last ten to fourteen days, we
have brought military power to bear in Iran, which he
should have done back in February and March. A man
with perspective on this is David Rubin, former mayor of Shiloh, Israel.
He's in Israel now. He's the president, founder of the
Shiloh Israel Children's Fund, and former mayor of Shiloh. And

(01:36:26):
David to Ruben, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And all I can say is here we go again.
We've had some massive bombing of parts of Iran. I
had a military expert on today saying this is only
the beginning, because there's so many other targets we could
hit that would fundamentally change the outcome of the war.

Speaker 9 (01:36:44):
We have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
The Hooties are now being incentivized to attack, especially Saudi
Arabian oil tankers. On the other side, over in the
Red Sea, we have the news out of Saudi Arabia.
I hope it's true. Who knows that Saudi Arabia wants
to join the Abraham Cords. Saudi Arabia wants peace. Once
we'll send the message to the other Gulf states. And

(01:37:05):
so from your perspective, David Rubin in Israel as we speak,
what's the status of the conflict now with Iran? Plus
I want to play for you the words of the
Foreign Minister of Iran. For those who think they're about
to capitulate, give me a full report.

Speaker 14 (01:37:22):
Okay, all right, So the first of all, Saudi Arabia,
the United States has agreed, or at least the Trump
administration has agreed to allowing Saudi Arabia to have a
civil nuclear program, meaning no weapons, nuclear reactors, and the

(01:37:48):
American companies would help with that, but a condition was
placed on them that they have to agree to join
the Abraham Accords. Okay, we don't have un official word
saying that they want to to join the Abraham Courts,
but we do know that it's something that they see

(01:38:11):
some advantage to. Whether they willing to have the courage
and go forward with it despite a strong opposition from
many Muslim countries, we will see. We'll see what happens
with that. As far as President Trump going forward in
terms of the strikes on Iran, look, I could break

(01:38:34):
it down very simply for you. If the main goal
is to get Ron to agree to a nuclear deal,
then he's going about it, or he thinks he's going
about it in the right way because he's every day
a little bit more power and you know, kind of

(01:38:57):
threatening them. On the other hand, if the goal is
to win this war and to win it quickly, yes, yes,
then then what he really should be doing is be
just going in full force, tell them you lost your
chances for a deal. There will not be a deal
unless we dictate the terms unconditional surrender. We want to

(01:39:22):
see those white flags flying. And and you know, and
if and if they don't agree with it, well we'll
bring in our allies, you know, namely Israel, which is
really the only one that they that the Iranian sphere
in this area, in this region. But that needs to

(01:39:42):
be done. Yes, that is how you win a war.
And the purpose is not to win a deal. The
purpose should be to win a war. And and I'm
telling you right here on the Bill Conningham Show, which
should be listened to by everyone across the count If
you go in full force and you win the war decisively,

(01:40:06):
and you see those white legs going up in Iran
and you and you put into power a a friendly
government in Iran, you will see that it will help
Trump enormously at the polls in November. Yes, and almost immediately.

(01:40:29):
It will bring a sharp reduction in the price of oil, yes,
price of gasoline.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Yes.

Speaker 14 (01:40:35):
So that's what I think needs to be done.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Well, David Rubin, you and I on the same page,
goes you and I don't matter. But my president February
twenty eighth launched it. Six weeks later he stopped it,
and it was resuming about a week or ten days ago.
Seems to me like about three months went by and
without much going on other than negotiations. And I want
to share with you the words of the Foreign Minister

(01:40:58):
of Iran who said several hours ago, any aggression against Iran,
including our infrastructure, will compel the powerful and decisive response.
Those who contribute to such aggression, whatever the kind of support,
will also be considered as legitimate targets. So here we are,
and according to Donald Trump and Marco Rubio, I think

(01:41:21):
is in the Philippines. Both of them have said Iran
is begging to come to the table. They want a deal,
they want to talk. I would say, we're not talking.
We want no deal. We want unconditional surrender. So when
the Foreign Minister of Iran says, well, we have a
lot of fight left in US, We're going to keep
fighting and killing people, including their own citizens. Many were
hung about two days ago, including two teenage boys, were

(01:41:42):
hung in public square in Tehran. On one hand, you
got Trump and Rubio saying, boy, they want to deal
real bad. On the other hand, the Foreign Minister of
Iran says, We're gonna have a powerful and decisive response
to America and everyone else. Both those things not be true,
because I want unconditional surrender. We won, you lost, and

(01:42:05):
I want statements from all the government officials that we
were wrong. We're not going to kill Jews and Muslims
and Christians anymore. We want a peaceful civilian government. And
until that happens, how can you say? On one hand,
Trump says again yesterday and I think this morning, they
want a deal so bad they can taste it. On
the other hand, the foreign minister says, let's stay at war.

(01:42:26):
Both can't be true.

Speaker 14 (01:42:28):
Yeah, well, well it's true. They keep saying that. They
keep saying that. Trump keeps repeating that over and over,
and now Ruby has said it as well. And of
course Jadvence, you know who only wants to negotiate. He
doesn't want anything else. And even though his negotiations failed miserably,
they look that. The bottom line is they could talk

(01:42:50):
about a run wanting a deal. The Iranians know how
to play this game. They know how to play the game.
They understand Trump, they understand America, and they understand that
Americans are burned from, you know, from the Vietnam syndrome
that hasn't gone away yet, and it's not going to
go away until there is a decisive American victory overseas.

(01:43:14):
And so that's really what it comes down to, that
there has to be a decisive victory. And yes, Bill, stop,
let's let them stop talking about how badly Aron wants
to deal. Who the hell cares about making a deal
with a bunch of despots who want to bring tyranny

(01:43:36):
and have brought tyranny to their people, slaughtering forty to
fifty thousand of them within a matter of just a
few days. I mean, we're not talking about rational, sane people.
We're not talking about people who are reasonable. This isn't
the We're not talking about an agreement between the United

(01:43:56):
States and Canada, or or Switzerland and Austria. We're talking
about a despotic regime that wants to kill its own people,
that wants to kill every American soldier and every Israeli
soldier and civilian that they can get their hands on,

(01:44:17):
and we need to respond accordingly. You know, That's what
I'm hoping for that Trump and Rubio, who are two
of the most sensible people in the administration, that they
will come to that understanding. If they haven't already, they
may have already and they're just playing the game from

(01:44:39):
two sides because they know that a lot of Americans
like to hear it talk about negotiations.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
Maybe Trump's made that evaluation about losing the midterms, which
I don't think is necessarily going to happen. I had
a guest on the other day who talked about the
Republicans in the House have locked up about two hundred
and thirteen seats of the two hundred and eighteen they
need five of then seventeen, so who knows what's going
to happen there. When the Trumpster said a couple nights ago,

(01:45:04):
pay attention to this. If you hit another ship, we're
going to take out a power plan. Hit another ship,
We're going to take out a bridge. Religious fanatics don't
care about bridges and power plants. What they want to
do is be killed as part of their jihad to
spend time in heaven with that emom coming out of
ohm somewhere in a rock. They don't care about a

(01:45:25):
bridge or a power plant. They want to kill and die.
It reminds me of Adolf Hitler. I saw this thing
on the History Channel in the last few months of
the war. Is the Russians were coming in from the
east and the Americans coming in from the west. It
was obvious what was going to happen to Berlin. He
had an opportunity of standing down, unconditional surrender to the
West and we quit fighting, put up the He wanted

(01:45:48):
none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
In fact, he wanted to die and be killed.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
So Adolf Hitler took his own life with a shot
to the head and also some Cinai tablets in his mouth.
And he didn't care about the German people. He wanted
to take them down with him. And that's the attitude
of these religious fanatics that are homicidal, suicidal and genocidal.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
They want to die and they want to kill.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
And the idea they're going to care about a bridge
or a power plant, they couldn't care less about water ports.
They want to die, they want to be killed, and
they want to murder you. And so it concerns me
when the president says, well, this will be tit for Ted.
You do this We'll take out a bridge. You do,
that will take out a power plant? Can you smell
what I'm cooking?

Speaker 14 (01:46:31):
Yeah? All for sure, for sure, And you're absolutely right. However,
there is another side of it, which is that that
the Iranian regime holds the power through its economy. And
if they're able to maintain that oil income coming in

(01:46:51):
all the time, and they're they're able to enrich themselves
and to pay the salaries of all of the soldiers
of those many, many, you know, soldiers, hundreds of thousands
of soldiers that they have in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.
If they're able to finance that whole war machine, then

(01:47:13):
they're going to stay in power. If the oil is
taken away from them and used strictly to support the
United States war effort, then they're going to think twice
and possibly start leaving the country. As as you know, Kamane,

(01:47:35):
the younger Chamane has already done, supposedly according to reports,
intelligence estimates that we have. So so you watch, you
watch if President Trump gives the order to take control
of their oil industry, completely take control of it and
start and continue selling it. But have the United States

(01:47:59):
receive those REVUS news to pay for the war effort.
You will see the price of oil go way down,
and you will also see members of the regime start
fleeing the country and members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards
start abandoning ship. You just watch that. If that happens,
then those will be the results, and prices of gas

(01:48:22):
will go down and the GOP will win decisively in November.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Here we are the end of July. You and I
had this conversation back in March and April. You got
to win the war unconditional surrender, no negotiations in Islamabad. Now,
don't issue press releases talking about We're going to destroy
the Great Satan, none of that. And I just have
a thought that maybe the Trumpsters getting bad advice or secondly,

(01:48:48):
he knows he's in trouble from his perspective in November,
and the American people need to be told there was
short term pain for long term gain.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
And when you have a little.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
Bit of pain at the and let's face it, gas
is less expensive now in America, even this weekend, than
it was under Joe Biden. Most of Joe Biden's term,
gasoline was three fifty to four dollars a gallon in
the Midwest where I am Mayor David Ruman, it's about
three fifty a gallon, and you have to average in
all the Californias in New York. That's why nationally it's

(01:49:20):
about four dollars a gallon. But where I live it's
pretty good. It's pretty great, and we had our own needs.
But it just lastly before you go, Mom Donnie is
a character in New York City. You have a column
about this that he wants to a wretch arrest nets
in Yahoo but not the terrorists who did October the seventh.
How does that play in Israel?

Speaker 14 (01:49:43):
Well, we understand what an extreme Muslim is and when
you combine it with socialism, which is what's happening with
people like Mom Donnie and that guy in Michigan, Yeah,
who's running and of course yes, Abdul and and and

(01:50:03):
you know the Ilhan Omars and Mersida TOLEDs and all
those When when when you put them all together, you
have a socialist, radical Muslim, which which is about the
worst thing for the United States of America. And so
it's it's important to to understand Mamdani kannatter rest and

(01:50:26):
Yahoo nets and Yahoo our prime minister here in Israel,
will come to the United States, will speak out forcefully
at the United Nations and elsewhere as he always does.
And Mamdani is just full of hot air, and he
knows that that that anti Semitism in this city is

(01:50:48):
rising considerably because of him. And he also knows that
that his his city is going to be falling apart
pretty soon because he doesn't have the slightest idea he's doing.
We and Israel know about socialism. Israel was founded or
refounded in nineteen forty eight with the socialist economy, and

(01:51:10):
we did away with that, thank god, around the year
nineteen eighty and since then we've developed a free market,
high tech economy that's doing great despite the wars. So
Mom Donnie can continue to breathe and blow out his
hot air win not paying too much attention to it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Lastly, I watched General Jack Keen on Fox News this
morning talk about Sencom has the ability over about a
thirty day period to destroy the country of Iran take
over the oil and it just concerns me when the
Trumpster talks about incrementalism. Incrementalism is the Vietnam War. Incrementalism
is what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. Incrementalism is what's

(01:51:53):
going to destroy this. We need to pay a little
bit upfront for great long term gain. And the last
thing we should do is play a little pussy foot
and tit for tat.

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
You do this, we'll do that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
You do unconditional surrender, We win, you lose, and if
that happens, the world's going to be a much better place.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
Well, once again, please go ahead.

Speaker 14 (01:52:12):
Let me just say this. Let me just say this.
I have a second we we we have an expression
from Jewish wisdom, which which is in Hebrew, it says
that more my aunta sejo bet, which means say a little,
say little, but do a lot. Yeah, okay, that's what

(01:52:32):
That's what we need from Washington right now.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Kind of like Teddy Roosevelt, carry a big stick right now.
We need from Trump to win this thing and don't
talk about incrementalism once again, Mayor David Rubin, what is
the website of your Children's Defense fund there in Shiloh.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Israel.

Speaker 14 (01:52:48):
Israel Children dot org. That's Israel Children dot org.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Billy cunning Into, Great American, thanks for listening tonight. I
want to thank the four or five new radio stations
I have in Memphis and in Paducah, Kentucky, in two
in the great state of Maine. Hopefully what I have
to say and what you have to say on Sunday
nights may affect that race. And Susan Collins, shall we say,
is not my favorite Republican. She's in the same category
as Lisa Murkowski. Susan Collins, by the way, voted to

(01:53:17):
impeach the President, voted against the Big Beautiful Bill, but
she represented her state of Maine, and she's a damn
sight better than the alternative. Also want to thank tonight
David Rubin for reporting from Israel, what's happening in America's
best friend in the Middle East and more, and also
the great Jeff crue Air see what happens next week
and I'll be back together next Sunday night. But right

(01:53:38):
now Iran is threatening Ukraine. We'll see what happens on Tuesday.
Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all
great Americans every Sunday night.

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