Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 4/11/26

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One Hunter WLW, Mike Allen and Saturday Midday kind of
a cool but.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
What is going to be a very nice day tomorrow?
Even better?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, we're now in the forty second day of the
war with Iran, and by golly, it's still not over with.
I don't know what's taking him so long, but it's
in the forty second day.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We are now in a two week.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Cease fire negotiations I think start today. Vice President Vance
is in Islamabad on behalf of the United States with
the Secretary of State and others. So two weeks cease
fire two. I almost have to laugh saying this negotiate

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with the Iranians. Let me ask this question, is there
anyone out there in the listening audience or anywhere that
actually thinks that Iran will gootiate in good faith and
that all of this will be settled in two weeks?

(01:06):
Does anyone think that I tell you what I don't,
And I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone
who is a serious thinker that would think that it's
just not gonna happen. Might happen in an alternate universe,
might happen in dream world three, but in reality it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
And you know why, because you cannot trust these people.
You simply can't trust them. You cannot believe these people.
Lying is a part of their DNA. And I say
that somewhat in jest, but not completely. It's all right

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in certain cultures, and that's one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's all right to lie. It's okay to lie.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So you know what, I mean, kudos to the president
for at least trying.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And we'll talk about that in a minute. I mean,
he's got to come through on this. Just they lie,
I mean, they lie.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Like rugs, and you can't believe them. I mean, already,
it hadn't even started yet, and they're moving the goalpost,
the Iranians already. They're just not going to negotiate with
the Great Satan. And that's what we are, the Great
Satan in good faith, period, full stop. And as example

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of that, the ten point proposal that they put out
I think it was yesterday or perhaps Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
These are the ten things.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I probably hit most of them, but the ten points
that they want to come out of there with, and
this is reported by r nou R News and a
lot of other sources. This what I got it from
I got it from Ai. Okay, here's number one. They

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want a non aggression Are you ready guarantee a non
aggression guarantee. They want a firm commitment to end hostility
against Iran. They want that, you know, in their mind,
I suppose they think that they have earned that. You know,
that one earns a big Are you kidding me? We're

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supposed to just on faith say, okay, we're gonna guarantee
you iron We're never gonna touch you again. You know,
feel free to do whatever you want, feel free to
back your buddies and hesbelah to have another situation October seventh,
situation like you had over there. We trust you, go ahead,
you got the guarantee. It's ridiculous. Here's another one that's ridiculous,

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and I guess more dangerous than ridiculous. They want a
guarantee that they will control the straight of horror moves.
They want to maintain authority over transit in the waterway. Absolutely, unequivocally,
no freaking way, you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, they'll tie that around our neck.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
They have very very few friends, maybe even no friends
now from the other countries over there.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
But that's what they want. You know, Oh, gee, that's realistically,
let's just sign on the dotted line for that. Okay,
this one, this one might be the biggest of all.
Number three nuclear enrichment. They want formal US acceptance of
Iran's uranium enrichment program. I gotta read that one again,

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formal US acceptance of Iran's uranium enrichment program. So we're
supposed to.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Say, you know what, Iran, we've been wrong about you
guys all along, all along, We've just been wrong. Now
we're gonna make it right with you. You have our
word that you can continue in your uranium enrichment program
because we don't.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
We don't think you're gonna do anything crazy with it.
You don't think you're going.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
To endanger Israel or US or some of our other
allies over there. So go ahead, you got.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It, Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Their next negotiating point lifting primary and secondary sanctions. With
respect to primary sanctions, they want us to remove all
US sanctions targeting targeting Iran generally. Then for the secondary
they want us to remove penalties on foreign firms doing

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business with Iran. Gee, that's a reasonable demand, wouldn't you think.
And this is one they're asking for this, and it's
not something that we control, and frankly, it's meaningless. They
want UN resolution termination, they want to end all UN
Security Council resolutions against Iran. Well, guess what, we ain't

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in the driver's seat on that, and we would be idiots.
Although the UN as a joke, it's a paper tiger,
but that's not something that we can do, and it's
not something that we would want to do. And you
know what, in most cases, the UN is against the
United States of America pretty much at every turn.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So I'm not too worried about that one.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Number seven terminating all International Atomic Energy Agency oversight of Iran.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
They want that resolution to end. They don't want what's
this tell you?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
They don't want to be investigated by the IAEA, which
again is the International Atomic Energy Agency. They don't want
any investigation by those people at all.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Gee, I wonder what that could mean.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
All right, compensate this one too, I mean, every one
of these things is just a joke. Compensation They want
us to pay for war damages incurred by them, No way,
I can't imagine what they would be. It'd be pretty

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darn high, but it ain't gonna happen. You know what,
how about this Iron Why don't you compensate us for
the thousands of Americans that either you or your disgusting
proxies have caused to us. Let's start negotiating along those lines.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Matter of fact, let's go back.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
To nineteen seventy nine when you took our people hostage.
You know, these people, they're not in the real world. Okay,
this one, I keep saying the same thing over and
over again.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's a joke.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Number nine, US withdrawal, They won't withdrawal of US combat
forces from the region.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sure, let's do that. We can't do that fast enough.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, we want to get out of there, so you
can do whatever you want and threaten our ally Israel
and our other We have other ally over there too.
And by the way, I don't know that Iran has
any of course, they got their buddies in Hesbelah, but
any true countries. I don't know that any of them

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support them. They're kind of out there on an island. Okay,
US withdrawal, withdrawal of US combat forces from the region. Sure,
we can't do that fast enough. Let's start on that
Monday maybe. And they want this is the last one. Ceasefire, consolidation,
comprehensive ceasefire they want on all fronts, and listen to

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this one. This says it all, a comprehensive ceasefire on
all fronts, including allies in Lebanon. Gee, what do you
think that means? You think that might be Hesbela. You
know they'll tell you, look you straight in the eyes
that well, we don't have any association with them. They're liars,

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They're liars, they can't be trusted. This is all a
big gain. And I know the President and Vice president,
Secretary of State they know.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That, and again kudos to them for at least trying.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But these are not serious people when it comes to negotiation.
It's just it's crazy. Well, we've got some points of
our own. I think it was a fifteen point proposal.
I've kind of boiled it down here to five. These
are the big five that I think cover it. And
these are just some of the aspects of the US proposals.

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And I think this came out late this week too.
This is what we want, every one of them reasonable
one nuclear constraints. We want assurances that Iran will surrender
or dismantle all highly enriched uranium seas enrichment activities on

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its soil, and accept intrusive inspections. Now, do you think
for a New York minute that they're going to read
to that or anything close to that. The answer is no.
And even if they said they did, you can't believe them.
And that's one thing about this. And I know the
President and Vice president, Secretary of State, and everybody else

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over there, Jared Kushner, they know that whatever they agreed to,
they have to be able to inspect. They have to. Again,
you can't trust these people. Next thing they want, they
want a military and proxy reduction.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
This is the United States.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, we want military and proxy reductions, and this is
an important one to US. Aims to halt Iran's ballistic
missile development and prohibit weapons transfers to their proxies. Again
to wit Hesbalah and allies in the Middle East. Again,
we want aims to halt Iran's ballistic missile development and

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prohibit weapon transfers to proxies and allies in the Middle least. Now,
I don't know that they have many, if any allies,
but they sure have their proxies. And the big one
is Hezbelah and up until I guess it was yesterday,
Israel was hitting Hesbela hard in Lebanon.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
But I guess they pulled back for the two weeks.
I think that's what they did. It was kind of
influx yesterday. We want regional security. We are demanding the
reopening of the Straits of Horror Moves to shipping. That
is a big one. I mean, think about it.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Do you want those people, the Iranians, being the boss
of the Straits of Horror moves and what ships get
through and what ships don't.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
We have to have that. And here's a biggie too.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Compliance verification maybe one of the most It is one
of the most important ones on there. Anyway, US forces
will remain in the region to enforce the cease fire
and verify compliance with the terms. Pretty basic, Pretty basic,
remember Ronald Reagan, Trust, but verify, I think in this case,

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do not trust under any circumstances.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
And if you're.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Stupid enough to accept what they say, you damn well
better find a way to verify it because they lie.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Compliance verification, we just talked about that. No accord on sanctions.
While Iran has demanded the removal of all US sanctions.
The US position is focused on these security demands rather
than immediate sanctions relief. So, I mean, what we want,
we don't want to automatically because they say we have

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an agreement lift the sanctions.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's just something that we have to have.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think if you're looking at it objectively, you would
say that what they're asking for is unbelieve pevably ridiculous, unreasonable,
is not going to happen. On the other hand, what
we are asking for are all reasonable things. Here's what
it all comes down to, though, when you get down

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to the bottom line on it, it's them having the
ability to construct or have a nuclear device.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We just can't have it. We can't have it. And
you know what, It's funny.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Over the last two or three weeks, you know, I
talk to friends, family members, and I kind of engage them.
And I'll tell you right now, even among Republicans, not
everyone is in favor of this. But here's what I say. Okay,
take everything else out of it, throw everything else aside.

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Do you want those people, the Iranians having a nuclear device?
Do you want that? Do you think that's important? And
you know, usually I'll get well, you know, yeah, but
Trump this, Trump that, Trump this, Trump that, and then
you just go back to it. I mean, look what
these people have done. You know, past performance is a

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pretty darn good predictor of future actions and performance.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Do you trust these people?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, I don't want I don't want to grow
up in a world whatever time I've got left with
those people having nuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I don't want my son and my daughter.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Growing up in that time, especially my daughter who is
in the United States Army.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Do I want my brand new granddaughter growing up in
a world where Iran has nuclear capacity?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I don't. But when you ask those questions of these people,
you know, you get the old Ralph Kran then a mahamahamahamaha.
You know they don't want to address that. They're just
not realistic.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
They're not those people cannot have a nuclear device period.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You know. I wish I had a future mire or
that I could look into and predict the future. I'd
like to know.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm just curious where we would be this time next week.
You better believe we'll be talking about it. But I
would not be surprised at all if this thing goes
a couple of days and Kushner, the Vice President, Secretary
of State, and the rest of them say, look, we're
wasting our time here. We're out here. But again, you know,
you hope against hope something might happen. But don't hold

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your breath, folks. Anyway, that's what I think. I want
to know what you think. Seven four nine, seven thousand, one,
eight hundred. The big ones are the numbers. If you
want a weigh in, Mike Allen Saturday midday we.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Tax with free fed and.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Mike Allen Saturday midday. We're going right to the phones
as promised. Let's talk to John. Hey, good morning, John.
What you got for me?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Hey, it looks like North Korea, Pakistan, India, Israel, they
all have bonds or we're gonna bomb everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You're gonna have to help me on that one, okay,
And the point is help me with it.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
What's the point, John?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Why are we attacking Iran over nuclear bombs if all
these other countries have them? Well, you know, and I
knew Israel had a bomb, I'd want to bomb.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Guess what. I guess we're just on different universes here.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I trust Israel to be responsible with a bomb. And yes,
it's widely believe that they have one, although they've got
that deliberate ambiguity going. I mean, I don't have a
problem with Iran having a nuclear device. Excuse me, Israel
having a nuclear device. You know, when you are way

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a bit, when you are when you.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Are a country that many people close to them say.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Has no right to exist, maybe a better arm yourself
as strongly as.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You can North Korea. I think it's a darn shame
they do. You know, somebody or probably many people who
are asleep at the switch when that happened. But you know,
I guess it all depends who has the nuclear weapon.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Pakistan, India, France, Great Britain.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well again, I mean, okay, are you trying to tell
me you would lump Iran into the category of Great Britain,
France and some of the other countries. They are a
special case, John, They've proven it. They are the world's
premier provider of terrorism, and they have been for the

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last fifty years.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's apples or installed the death spot. And you know what,
are you one of those guys that, no matter what,
it's going to be United States fault? I mean seriously,
I mean, they're just happen to war.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Money bags, You're a warmonger.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I've had more than enough of you, pal.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
You know what, I am like the farthest thing to
a war maker, a warmonger than anybody got a daughter
in the army. Even if I didn't, it wouldn't make
any difference. I don't want war. I don't want war.
This is like the argument that I have with some
of my friends. I don't want it. Obviously. On the

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other hand, you can't stick your your head in the sand.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I mean you just can't. These people are what they are.
They've proven it by their words, they've proven it by
their deeds, and they are irresponsible. They're godless, they're lawless,
and they should not have a nuclear device. Anyway, Enough
of me, let's talk to Barry in Miamisburg. Hey, good morning, Barry, Hey,

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good morning.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Beautiful day out there.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Is absolutely only gonna get better.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
My question is since the seventies when they overthrew the
I ran and kept America for four hundred and forty
four days a couple of years ago, seventh when they
were behind that noise, one, has Iran been good?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'm sorry you cut out on that last part. Barry,
can you say that again?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
After October? Through that whole time period, one has I
Ran for been the good guys?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
When is Iran?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
What the good guys? I'm sorry, we got a bad connection.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Okay, When has Iran ever been the good guys?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh? Thank you? Never? I mean, never, not even close.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I mean, look at October seventh, and I know, oh wow,
Wait a minute, Mike, that was not the Iran.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That was Husbla or somebody else.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
That was Iran.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Of course it was, of course it was. Look, they
they are a rogue nation. They cannot be trusted. They
most certainly cannot be trusted with a nuclear device. And
I think anybody that doesn't see that's got their damn
headnes sand.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Follow up question, yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Uh, presidento Bozo and the idiot buy then gave I
Ran as much money as they wanted, much money as
they could. What exactly happened with all that money? Anything good?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I doubt it. Something tells me they didn't use it
on roads and highways, that's for darn ser. They didn't
use it to help their people. How you know?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
That is the typical democrat response to something. And with
respect to Iran, I've said it before. I'll say it again.
Republican presidents kicked that can down the road.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Too, But I don't know what they use it for,
but is a strong bet it wasn't for anything productive
for their citizens.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Let's comment, as a Trump supporter most of the time,
what is wrong with ending this war with Iran's absolute surrender?
Don't give them anything.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm with you, buddy, I mean, I am. They don't
deserve anything.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
They don't And not only that, I mean, if there
was one, I guess, I don't know, you could almost
say good thing to come out of this. They have
alienated all of those countries over there in the Mideast.
They all hate them now, and you know that just
makes our position even stronger. But I think we need
to squeeze them, and squeeze them hard. And I'm not

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a warmonger. I think I'm a realist.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
I think we're in the same boat.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yep. I think we most definitely are. That's a good
place to be too. Thanks, Perry. I have a nice dation.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, you too, Thank you. Hey, Let's talk to Harold. Hey,
good morning, Harold, how are you?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Good morning, Mike. But I'm having trouble with her line
of reasoning.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, tell me why.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Okay, my line of reasoning goes and forget about the
Democrat and the Republican all that pos of it. My
line of reasoning goes here. I would not trust Iran
with a nucery weapon.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
For nothing in this world.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
No, okay, But I also have trouble with trusting Donald
Trump is one.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, tell me why. And I respect your opinion. I
don't agree with it, but tell me why you think
that way?

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Actually?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
To me, I think sometimes he's acts like a petriant child.
And when a peteant child gets irritated or for whatever purpose,
it doesn't understand what appears to be going on. They
make quick moves that have not been thought through, that
that that should have wrong, run through someone else to

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get another opinion. And I'm just like this, Uh, No,
Iran shouldn't have a nutray weapon. But how can you
stay honestly forget the Republican, forget the Republican and the
devil sharing part, but you would actually think that Donald
Trump should have control of nuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, let me say this first.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
He doesn't help himself with some of the things that
he says, and for the life of me. I don't
know why he doesn't. I guess it's just something in
his DNA. But you put that aside and you look
at the acts that the man has done. I got
no problem with any of them, and I do think
I do trust him with his finger on the nuclear button,

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one hell of a lot more than Joseph Robinette Biden.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean, hell, he didn't even know where he was.
But I understand your position.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't agree with, but I will say he doesn't
help himself with some of the things that he says.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Well, I know, even a delic a Christian. As matter
of fact, I passed the church, and I just have
to be as even handled as I can understand that.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I just.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
I just think that when you're in leadership, part of
what causes me to trust you, that's what comes out
of your mouth. And when you say or do things
that appear to be outside of even reasonable thinking, then
everyone says, he really didn't mean it. That's not what

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he meant, that's not what he said. A leader has
to have the ability to express himself in a way
that when he gets done, those who he expects to
follow will be able to trust that what they hear
out of his mouth is what's in his heart, and
it's going to control the actions that he takes. And
right now, I ren shouldn't have a nuclear weapon, absolutely not.

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But I'm just sorry, Mike, I just I don't agree
that Donald Trump as the kind of person you want
up with his fringer on.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
The button either. All right, Harold, I appreciate your point
of view.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I don't agree with it, but as I said before,
the President on many occasions doesn't help himself.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And appreciate the call. Thank you very much, thank you, Okay,
And you know I mean that too.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
And I know people always give me all kinds of
grief because I say it, but I don't get it.
I mean, you know, what was the one last week
where destroy civilization? I get the negotiating style, that's the
way he is. I get it. But at the end
of the day, I think we all want the same thing.
I mean, Donald Trump and the people that support him,

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And I don't know that's just me, it's his style.
But again, at the end of the day, I don't
think it helps. Hey, let's talk to Amos in lymealand hey, Amos,
how you doing?

Speaker 8 (25:43):
God bless America doing?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Fine, good good.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
In my opinion, the reason that Iran has not been
quote the good guys close quote since the shaw fell
is they're twelvers. Twelvers are a part of Shia Islam
that it says that for their Messiah, the twelve seam
Mom to return from the well he's been hiding into
the last thousand or so years, the world must be

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bathed in human blood. Remember when Ahmedina Shad was their
secular president or Jalen Will called it, mister Iman a
madgiehad he actually went on the floor of the you
in General Assembly and prayed for the return of the
twelfth simm.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
People have their head up there or in the sand
on these people. And I'm sorry, I got a lot
of crap last week about what I said.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You can't trust them. They don't like us, they hate us,
they want to kill us.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
We gotta be realistic about these people.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
Right, twelve vers are mad dogs in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Well, I appreciate the call, and I wasn't familiar with that,
but I'm gonna look it up though, But thank you
for that.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
You know, seriously, I guess I can't help myself. I
can't say it enough. Not everybody likes us, not everybody
wants to do good by us.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
There are many people. Let me rephrase that. I don't
think there are some people in this world that hate
us and want to destroy us, and I think Iran
might fit into that category.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's just me, though. Hey, let's talk to Richard. Hey,
Richard got about three minutes, buddy, What you.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
Got real quick, Mike.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
A couple of things.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
Number One, I remember them quoting gold in my ear,
the former Prime Minister of Israel how many years ago.
She said, if somebody says they're going to show you,
believe that. And Iran's been preaching death to Israel, death
to America for forty nine years.

Speaker 9 (27:54):
Forty seven years, it's been yes.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Number one.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
Number two, maybe I've got a simplistic way of looking.
I've been known to be that way from time to time.
But we've had precess dating back at least to George H. W.
Bush All saying that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's right now.

Speaker 9 (28:12):
Our intelligence, Israeli intelligence, all the other big intelligence services
in the world said Iran was very very close and
if Trump did nothing about it, at all and six
months from now they dropped nuclear bombs and destroy Israel
and fire him towards Europe and so forth and so on.

(28:34):
Then the cry would be, why didn't Trump do something
about it?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
You are so so right, That's exactly what it would be.
And this last time around, myerstanding is there was good
intelligence saying in spite of US destroying what they had,
they still had plenty and they were close to making
being able to make I think it was eleven bombs,
but you're so right.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
And they bragged about it, they told which off.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
They had it.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Remember, yep, I agree. I agree. You can't believe a
word that comes out of their mouth. If they if
they negotiate.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Anything over there, it is going to have to be
with a way to uh verify it, because you can't
trust them. I kind of think this time next week
it'll all be over, I mean, the negotiating part, and
we'll see where we go from there.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And that's not a good option. I don't like to
see that, but you know what, you gotta do what
you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
And like I said, every president since Jimmy Carter, the
one that I like the most, Ronald Reagan, they didn't
do anything about it when they could have, and they
should have. Now it's time for Ron to pay the piper.
I mean, it's just that simple.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
An okay, all right, Well, I appreciate the call, thank you,
you know, and I tell you I feel strongly about that.
Who wants war, Nobody wants war. Trump doesn't want war.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think we are so extremely fortunate that in this
war we have only lost I believe, six service members.
Now that's six service members too many in my mind,
But I think it's been fought responsibly. I think our
military is just beyond belief the efficiency and frankly, and

(30:25):
this is the same thing with Israel the.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Way it's hard to put these two.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Words together, but the moral way that they fight a war,
go out of their way to avoid civilian casualties.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I certainly don't think the.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Iranians would do that, but look, at the end of
the day, it's all about being realistic.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
You have to do it. I don't want my granddaughter
living in a world where they have their finger on
the nuclear button.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Now, a caller said, you know what about North Korea.
I get it, I get it. He's a whack job too.
And you know, that's something.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
That should not have happened, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1 (32:53):
The Saturday Midday program.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
If you think the fraud in Minnesota was bad, you
ain't seen nothing yet. California is now the champ in
the fraud department. And you're not gonna believe the amounts
that we're talking about here. And you also won't believe
the people in charge in California too, wit California Attorney

(33:21):
General Rob Bonta. Whose fault it is, Well, it's President
Trump's fault, according to him.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Here to talk about that and also.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Give us an update on the fraud situation in Minnesota.
Is Janis Heisel of the Epoch Times, Senior reporter of
the for the Epoch Times. She's here to talk about
both of those things. Janis been awhile, thanks for joining
us this morning.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Absolutely, it's always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Hey, listen, can you give us the rundown on what's
going on in California? And you know, we kind of
thought that this may be coming, but boy, the numbers
are just incredible, and it seems like they're just getting started.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Well, yeah, actually, I've noticed some parallels. It's kind of
interesting between Minnesota and also California. So the parallels would
be things like, for example, we have certain types of
fraud that seem to be bigger in each state. In California,
the flavor of the month seems to be hospice care,

(34:25):
where unbelievably, they will have dozens, dozens upon dozens of
hospice care facilities supposedly located within a single building.

Speaker 14 (34:37):
I solve that, yeah, And.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
So questions are of course being raised as to well,
who in the heck is approving all of these without noticing,
g they're all at the same darn address. There's not
even enough room for all these businesses at this same location.
So we have that pattern in California. In Minnesota, we
do have a bunch of types of fraud, but it
seems like it's more at least the things that have

(35:03):
come out so far are mostly related to this meals
program from the COVID era, where they were supposed to
be feeding children. Instead we're enriching themselves. And again, if
people weren't watching, how did they not notice, for example,
that some place that had three employees was supposedly providing

(35:25):
thirteen hundred meals a week or something ridiculous like that.
So there are patterns where there are pockets and different
types of fraud. And further, in each instance, in California
we have those hospae centers seem to mostly be or
a lot of them run by Armenians. And then in Minnesota,

(35:47):
a lot of the fraud is being tied to Somalias.
And this isn't racis. There are statistics to back up
that most of the people arrested in Minnesota were of
Somali descent.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
And that doesn't surprise me. I didn't know that until
you told me, But it doesn't surprise me. To your point,
I just want to read one sentence of your story.
What you just talked about. A single building in Van
Nuys contained quote, more than one hundred and fifty licensed
hospice and home health agencies, a number that exceeds the

(36:21):
structures apparent physical capacity.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
The report said it just.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
This and Minnesota, janis the thing of it is what
amazes me, and I'm sure everybody else too, is how
this stuff can continue to go on. Now in California,
based on what you wrote in your story, you know,
it's kind of like Minnesota, they're like, oh gee, what happened?
You know, they're not saying that they knew about it

(36:48):
a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I guess.

Speaker 7 (36:50):
Another thing that is a parallel is that in both
states some of the top officials are going, hey, you know,
federal people, you guys are late to the party. We've
been after this all along. If you've been after it,
how does it continue? And so that is a natural
question that is being raised here. There seems to be
kind of like this battle that you know, in both

(37:12):
states they're you know, controlled by you know, Democrats. They're
saying that the Republican president's administration is unfairly targeting them,
and then Trump's administration fires back and says, well, you know,
you guys are the ones that have the problems. These
problems tend not to exist in the republican run states. Now,

(37:33):
are they supposedly turning a blind eye to those Republican states?
Not that I've seen so far, but that is part
of the political battle that surrounds all of this. And
then meanwhile, the taxpayers like you me and people listening
to this program, you're just left with your jaw hanging
open and feeling like that, you know, your taxes are

(37:53):
just going to people who are trying to buy fancy
cars and go on trips to foreign countries on your dime,
and it's just terrible. And one of the things that
stands out to me also is that it's one thing
if Joe Schmoe is a welfared cheat, and people get
mad enough about that, but this is an apparent systemic thing.

(38:18):
It's a network where one person figures out this is
how the games the system and then tells that friend,
and they tell two friends. It's kind of like this
little shampoo commercial from like those seventies. You tell two
friends and pretty soon everybody within that community knows. And
that's how these things. There's literally networks are fraudsters out there,

(38:39):
and it's just it's stunning how it's been perpetuated. There
was just a hearing I covered the other day where
a lady who was a whistle flower. She still works
for the Minnesota Department of Human Services, and she originally
brought out in twenty nineteen her consul as a compliance

(39:02):
officer who looked at some of these red flags and said, hey,
wait a minute, you guys are paying ABC company, but
you don't even have a contract with them yet that
that doesn't match our procedures. You shouldn't be doing this.
Do you know what happened to her? She ended up
being demoted, right, and.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Maybe some retribution too. Am I wrong about that? Well?

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Yeah, she got demoted, She got escorted out of the
building at one point, and there was just so much
that happened to this lady. But she still came forward
and testified again publicly, and her statement was she still sees,
even in her lower position now, reckless disregard for following procedures,

(39:53):
and that's part of the problem. So you got to
wonder why are they not following procedures? The one the
agency head she said well, you know, some of these
employees say that they don't have enough training, they don't
know how to do the job properly. But there's a
lot of questions swirling on whether somebody is maybe enriching themselves,
they're getting a kickback to help who knows.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yep, you know, and these politicians too. It's unbelievable the
hoodspa that these people have. This guy Rob Bonta, the
California Attorney General. I mean, this guy's got more nerve
than a burglar.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
In your story, he's quoted as saying claims that California
is overrun with fraud and doing nothing about it are
simply false.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
This case proves it. He goes on. Attorney General Rob
Bonta said in a news release, we want Californians to
know that we are on it. We have been on
it for decades. I don't think so. You wouldn't be
having this fraud if you were on it.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
And then he's got the nerve, the hutzpah to blame
it on Trump. He criticized President trump claim of widespread
fraud in California.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
As Arnold would say.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
It, I call him reckless, dangerous, outrageous lies that the
Trump administration is politicizing the issue. Barta claims California is
actually a victim of fraud, not a perpetrator, and accused
Trump of trying to quote relitigate is twenty twenty election loss.

(41:25):
This has nothing to do with Donald Trump, I tell you.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
And then when we start talking about the numbers, the
numbers are absolutely breathtaking. I mean people thought, In fact,
it was doctor Oz who said, if you thought the
fraud with out of control in Minnesota, this is direct quote,
wait till you learn what's happening in California. Because the
numbers alone are just breadtaking. So we have thirty nine
million people living in California, right, so that is the

(41:52):
most populous state in America. But Minnesota is only the
twenty second largest by population with six million residents. So
now Minnesota spraud. Originally they were saying it could be
nine billion. They're saying California could be Are you ready
for this? This is from a federal prosecutor. Hundreds of

(42:16):
billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Wow, that's Bill Sally that you talked to the top prosecutor,
correct in California?

Speaker 7 (42:25):
Yeah, Bill s Sally. And one of the things though,
that I wonder, as a practical matter, when it's this
big and you only have so many prosecutors, how in
the world can you practically put a stop to it?
And I don't know the answer to that. And I
was seeing a few people comment I think it's just

(42:46):
you know, regular online comments from people suggesting, should we
maybe get rid of most of these programs?

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Yes, that's what they're.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
Saying, and that's what some people are calling for. So
I don't know how far that's going to go though,
because in places like Minnesota, they're very into the social
program but some people ask is it out of the
goodness of their hearts? Or somebody lying in pockets here?
You know, there are all kinds of questions that are
still swirling around about all of this, and it'll be

(43:15):
definitely it's still interesting to see where it's how it
plays out. I'm still staying on top of it. Starting
actually on Monday, there's a meeting of the Minnesota Fraud
Prevention Committee where they're talking about proposals that Tim Waltz
has made the governor Minnesota for you know, supposedly trying

(43:36):
to cut back on fraud more. We'll see what happens
and then Wednesday, there are impeachment proceedings beginning in Minnesota
for both Attorney General Keith Ellison and Governor Tim Walls.
Now it's believed that these proceedings may not go anywhere
because the legislature is pretty divided, and you know, they
don't have enough votes to necessarily go anywhere with it.

(43:59):
So we'll see whether anybody swings over from the Democrat
side or not. So it's just there's a lot still
going on in Minnesota, and we're just seeing it the
very beginnings of it. I think in California, wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
You say, Janis, we're probably seeing the very beginnings of
it in the entire country. I mean, you would know
better than anybody. And I was going to ask you
about Ohio too, but you've been keeping an eye on it.
If this stuff's going on in California, Minnesota, and perhaps Ohio,
it's got to be going on in other states as well.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Would you agree?

Speaker 7 (44:34):
Oh? It is absolutely? And again, as a practical matter,
how in the world do you attack this when it's
this massive? I don't I know the word massive is sufficient?
Garbs Agelin, Yeah, yeah, I even know what the right

(44:54):
word is it.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I remember you saying Janis in one of your stories
that the I think it was a u This attorney
in Minnesota said we could have a thousand federal prosecutors
and that wouldn't be enough. I'll tell you what, Oh,
that may be a little bit of hyperbole, but if
it's even close, that's incredible.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
Well, at the risk of being a total Debbie Downer
during this conversation, I just wrote the story that I
don't think I even sent you yet, Mike, and that
is there was a trial that was supposed to start
Monday in Minnesota for a guy that was the lead
actor and an eleven million dollars personal health assistance scam,
and they had to cancel the trial because the dude

(45:37):
didn't show up for his pre trial hearing and they
don't know where he is. And that was being blamed
on the judge not putting conditions on his bonds such
as handover your passport, dude. So you know, that's the
other piece of the puzzle here, is say that you

(45:58):
have prosecutors and police who are doing their jobs all
day long. If you have a jodge who doesn't clamp
down on you know, some of these people who could
be flight risks you end up like this. There's at
least another There's one other guy that I'm aware of.
He faces federal charges that the guy I just rereferenced
was a state He was charged on the state charges

(46:20):
by Attorney General Key Dellsson's office. So I don't know
how many other ones that I don't know about may
have skipped town or skipped the country.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Right, Boy, when you're talking about fraud on the level
that you're talking about in California, I mean, it's just
got to be so deep and so widespread.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I know President Trump is pretty much let doctor Oz,
let him go and do what he's got to do.
But do you see anything more coming out of the
administration on some kind of concerted effort to get to
the bottom of this in every state.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
Well, actually they have announced that that's what they're doing.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
JD.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Advance is heading up that effort. Of course, he's a
little distracted with the war negotiations right now, but yes,
he and some other people who have been appointed to
kind of be directly under him, they say they're enlisting
help from every federal prosecutor's office in the country to

(47:20):
focus on fraud and go after them. I think a
lot of times people, even in just the general public,
they tend to feel like that maybe financial crimes aren't
that bad and that you know, we should concentrate on
people who are, you know, violent criminals. But I feel
like I'm sensing a shift that now people are starting

(47:41):
to see how much damage financial crimes can do as well.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, and you know, just the scale of it. It
just you know, to me, it's just common. Say you
sit here and you're talking about billions of dollars, How
would the administration of those programs not have an inkling
that something was going wrong, that money's going out the door?

(48:07):
You know, you buy a building that's supposed to what
work for one hundred and fifty people, and you got
one and fifteen thousand of them. I mean, that's an exaggeration.
I guess what I'm saying. I don't understand how these
things could not have been caught early on.

Speaker 7 (48:23):
Absolutely, and to me an untold part of the story
that has been told very little. And I've been trying
to find some examples of this. But what about people
who've been denied services that really needed them?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yep, that's right, that's right, that's right, And you don't
hear a lot about that. But at the end of
the day, I mean that's a very valid point because
I mean, hospice care people need that and I get that.
You know, I think the government's got their nose in
too much, but I understand that. But my goodness, when
you have fraud on this level, there are probably some

(48:59):
very deserve people that aren't getting in because of it.
You would think.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
There was a letter to the editor of our publication
that really touched my heart. It was from a gentleman
who said that his sister died. She had dementia Alzheimer's.
She was ended up dying in this small, tiny room
because this facility didn't have It was a legit facility, obviously,
but because they don't have enough money to give better

(49:27):
facilities to people at the end of their lives. Isn't
that just horrid?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It is?

Speaker 7 (49:33):
And I wonder how many stories like that are out there.
So that's something I'm going to be trying to dig
into and if anybody has some tips on that, I
would appreciate an email. You can find my email on
my x account which is just at Janice highfel Hi
s l E. And janis is ja nice. So yeah,

(49:53):
I would appreciate hearing from anybody who has an account
of how fraud has affected them their family in terms
of maybe being denied services or having substandard services because
there's not enough money to go to people who really
really need this help.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
You're so right, hey, Unfortunately, as always not enough time,
but really appreciate the new news on California and the
update on Minnesota, and I hope we.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Can call on you again.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Yeah, I definitely will be seeing tune this week for
those two things coming up in Minnesota, impeacement hearings as
well as the governor's proposals before the Fraud Committee. So
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Okay, thanks, Janis, really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
Take care, Mike, thank you too.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Janis heisell the Epoch Times. I'll tell you California the
multi billions of dollars. I think one of the quotes
was close to one hundred billion dollars. Now, if my
elder math is correct, that's a tenth of a trillion waste.
And you know, just the tip of the iceberg, just

(50:58):
two states, so will stay on top of it. Therefore,
we will stay on top of it. Hey, we got
to take a break for the news, but when we
get back, we're going to talk to Signal ninety nine.
And I think probably most of my listeners know exactly
what that is. Yesterday, the city manager, the police chief
still police Chief Chief Fiji met with the city manager

(51:21):
for I guess what they call a predisciplinary hearing. It's
one of the steps, I think on the way to termination,
and I think that's what the city's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
But they're gonna get their hat handed to them for
doing it. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
We will talk to Signal ninety nine when we get back.
Mike Allen Saturday midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday midday. Well,
I'll tell you what the reprehensible treatment of Police Chief
Press Thiji continues. I believe it was yesterday they had

(51:57):
the predisciplinary hearing for her with the city manager. I
don't know who else was there. I'm sure the chief
was and her counsel. But it's the next step. And
I'm no labor lawyer, I don't pretend to be, but
I believe it's the next step in the process of
terminating someone. That's what the city's going to do. And
as I said, the treatment that the chief has received

(52:19):
has been reprehensible. Here to talk about it is an organization.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
That, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
They have a way of getting to the truth of things,
and people are starting to respect and I think also
fear Signal ninety nine. And we have a representative of
Signal ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
With us this morning. Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Good morning, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Hey, Okay, what do you think about the deal that
took place yesterday with respect to the predisciplinary hearing with
the chief? I know from being an avid reader of
Signal ninety nine that you all are not happy.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
With the way she's been treated. But what's your take
on what happened yesterday?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well, yesterday was just the city's little theatrical optics of
what they're looking trying to look like due process happening.
It's not due process. None of this is due process.
Progressive discipline, that's due process. If she had done something wrong,

(53:28):
they would have counseled her, they would have put her
on a performance improvement plan, they would have written her up,
they would have a final There's none of that, Mike,
none nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I'm sure you read the nine page letter that came
out last week from the law from the Great Investigation,
and it's admitted in there that I don't think they
ever gave her any kind of hearing slash counseling or whatever.
All of a sudden, one day she's fired. And you know, again,

(54:03):
I'm not a labor lawyer, but I think when it
comes time to litigate this, that's going to be a
big deal.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Oh, it's going to be a huge deal, just as
it is for Chief Michael Washington.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
You know, we're waiting for for that High Court to
not reverse the lower court's decision, and then I think
the city is going to be in a lot of trouble.
I mean more trouble, yes, than we're in right now.
And you know that the mayor is doing something and

(54:36):
I don't know if anybody's picking up on it, but
he's constantly keeps deferring everything to share a long. Oh,
that's that's the city manager, right the city manager. That's
the city manager. And I have every faith in her.
And I just want to tell you he did the
exact same thing the Chief CGS right before resacrificer before

(55:01):
the election. So if I'm Sarah Long right now, I'm
pretty pretty nervous.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I think so too. I mean, but she's got a
track record that certainly is not enviable. I mean, you
got the city with a what thirty two thirty three
million dollar deficit, and they're gonna, let's just be honest,
they're gonna pay out through the nose for the fire chief,
and at the end of the day, I'm certain that
they will for the police chief as well. They were

(55:28):
able to come up with money for the protesters. But
you know, it just to me, the mismanagement is just
obvious and speaks for itself.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
And you know, the city got themselves into this.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Bind and now they got to try to find a
way out of it to save face.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
But that ain't gonna happen. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Well no, And you know the bottom line mic the
city doesn't care. It's not their money, right. You know,
they moved money out of the general fund every single
month to pay it every month, and so big ones too,
yeah yeah, oh yeah, and it comes out of the
general fun So what you know, who puts the money

(56:12):
into the general funs tax?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
That's right, that's right, those living works, we're the.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Ones paying for it, not the city. They don't care.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
True.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Hey, yeah, they do it with impunity because it's not
their money.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Really yeah, and that's the way a lot of politicians
are unfortunately. But uh, I wanted to ask you about
the article in the Inquiry this morning.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I think it was put up late last night.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
They did talk to the chief a little bit. I
think it was probably one of those going out the
door things. But I don't know if you saw it,
if you did, not, want to read it to you
because it's great.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
The story is from Scott Whartman. It says Eji hopes
to return to work. She said as long as she
said as she left Long's office.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
With her attorney and husband. Quote and this is the chief.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
We didn't start this fight, but by god, we're going
to finish a close quote.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I think pretty appropriate, don't you.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Absolutely? And that comes from her family, yes, ma'am. Her family,
they've they've been around a long time. Ye, with all
of this, with the city, with the county. They're very
diverse there. I mean, it's a legacy family, so they're
they're doug Yet they're not going to give up. It's

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this isn't going to just go away. Nope, they're not
going to just quietly pay her off. She doesn't care
about the money.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah, she's made it exceedingly about the money, exceedingly clear.
I think to me through her family, who I've had
on the show a number of times, that you know,
she's really if she had her way, she wouldn't want
the big money.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
She wants her her job, to keep her job because
she's done a great job at it, I think, and
I've I think a lot of others do too.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Well. And just like Chief Washington, Chief Tiji wants her
name back, Yep, he wants her reputation back. She wants
to be able to go out on her own term,
and so did Chief Washington. And this is why, you know,
and it's just funny that Steven represents both of them. Yep,

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also represents me for a reason. I mean, he is
really one of the best of the best in this field.
And I just think that the city is playing chicken
with somebody they can't afford to play chicken with good point.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I mean, in my I've said this before, I'll say
it again, he's the premier labor lawyer in this town,
in the premier law firm in this town. The finny
firm and she could not be better represented. Hey, I
wanted to ask you too. There was an item in
Signal ninety nine earlier in the week. I'll just read
the first couple with mean first sentence. I want to

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ask you about it.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
We're seeing a narrative take shape that Signal ninety nine
is against Interim Chief Adam Haney. Am I pronouncing that right? Any?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Henny Henny?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Okay? And that simply is not true. Let's be clear.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
We support Chief Trethasthiegi and we support Interim Chief Hanny both.
We are not hoping that Henny fails as interim chief.
That would be ludicrous. Can you kind of expand on
that a little bit? Because I've never met Chief Henny
or Acting Chief Henny. From everything I've heard, I mean

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from everybody, he's top notch. And I guess is that
something that's out there that he's gunning for her job
or something like that, because if it is, I sure
haven't heard it.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
No, you know, it doesn't matter whether he has hopes
to keep that job or not. What matters is he
is a brilliant tactician. I mean, he is very very
strong in a lot of areas and being thrust into

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you know, he went from a captain to a lieutenant
colonel and then eight days later he was interim chief
and that's a huge stepping out of his company zone. There.
A leader is a leader, and I will say that
all day long, and he's absolutely a leader, but this

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is a completely different world of leadership. No, he's not
really accustomed to. And he's doing the best that he
can and I understand that. I think we all understand that.
But he's also got a lot of people around him,
especially the city manager, telling him, oh, you need to

(01:00:57):
do this, you should do that, you should think of
about this, you should think about that, And that's dangerous.

Speaker 9 (01:01:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I want Interim Chief Henny to just take a step
back and quiet all these voices and listen to his
own voice about what he knows is right, what he
knows is not right, and do the best that he
can do for the CPD. So, but I also, you know,

(01:01:29):
support what they did to her was atrocious. It's it's
there's no transparency going on with any of this. Like
I knew she had a predisciplinary hearing yesterday, did you and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Came out in the newspe I did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Not Okay, so how was that transparent?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Yeah, they know, they know they're in a box. They're
they're trying to find a way out of it. It
ain't gonna happen. Hey, I wanted to ask you to
You mentioned the intern chief being a good tactician.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I think that was played out in two examples perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
That situation a few weeks back Downtown Cincinnati, and I
used to live downtown. I saw these things, you know,
where the people come in their car, I forget what
they call them, and do the doughnuts and speed and
just in general reckless driving. I'll tell you what CPD
was on that, like White on Rice. I think they

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confiscated any number of cars. They had to do some
damage to wheels of cars, I guess with stopsticks to
prevent it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And then you couple that with CPD's response on opening day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I'll tell you whoever set that up is a heck
of a tactician. And I heard it was the acting
chief that did that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, he is
brilliant at that stuff. I mean he has to remember
he has commanded SWAT CDRT you know, all of these
things he knows what he's doing with all of that stuff,
and that's a big part of being a chief. But
you know, it's also a part of being a chief

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to say, hey, are these moves that i'm making a
necessary and be the best for the department. So, as
you know, I've been very critical about what's happening to
siegic confusion and pivot because of because of moves that
have been made, and you know, maybe he's got a

(01:03:36):
great reason for it, but I don't see it, and
I don't know that this is really was his decision.
So again, where's the transparency?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I do, and you know, I try to keep up
on these things, and I think CPD is the best trained.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
They're better trained than they ever have been.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
A lot of that is technology, which kind of leads
me to my next question for you, And unfortunately you
only got about four minutes. There is a great piece
on Facebook on signal ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It is titled it starts out what the flock? Flock?
Could you tell us?

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Unfortunately you only got a couple of minutes about flock,
what it is and what it does, because again I
didn't even see this thing coming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
But it's a great tool for the police.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Well, I've been hammering about FLOCK for a couple of years.
Block is a brilliant piece of technology that connects us
throughout the entire nation. So if you have an Amber
alert Incinanti okay, and we have FLOCK, which we do

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but we should, that car is going to hit an LPR,
which is a licensed plate reader of FLOCK, that car
is going to be tracked. Now it leaves Sincinnati and
it goes to Tennessee, okay, every FLOCK license plate reader
on the way to Tennessee is going to pick that
up and they're going to be able to track that

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car every time it passes a license plate reader and
relay that information in real time across the country. So
if you have a child it's been kidnapped, you could
be looking at minutes or hours as opposed to months,

(01:05:32):
years or never of recovering that child. And people think
that it tracks humans through facial recognition, it does not.
It is a piece of technology. It tracks the car
like it's got its own fingerprint. Even if it doesn't
have a license plate, it can still track that car.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
And again, running short on time, and does CPD not
have that if they don't is there's some reason for it,
because it sure seems like one heck of a great
piece of technology for them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Well, the city right now is trying to do They're
waffling between axon and flock, and I'm flock all day long.
Most of the officers that have worked with flock are
pro flock. If you look at little villages like Bethel
has flocked, Amberley has flocked, and they've had a huge

(01:06:29):
success with it even in tiny little villages. Sure that
works very well for them. A lot of agencies in
Butler County have slocked. Cole Raine, I believe has slocked.
So there's communities all around us that have it. Why
wouldn't we want to build that bridge with all of

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these other communities because I'll tell you what, when the
criminals here that you have flocked, they take their business own.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Oh yeah, and I know that to be fact. Hey,
you know, unfortunately we're out of time, but I really
appreciate this and hope we can call on you again
in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Sure, have a great day, mite you two.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Thank you all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
If you are a facebooker and you haven't checked out
Signal ninety nine yet, you should do it. You're going
to read some things in there that you're not going
to find anywhere else. I didn't know anything about this
flock situation. It was kind of a learning thing for me.
And I'll tell you with technology what the police can
do now, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
One thing comes to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Mind our drones and CPD, as I understand that has
been a national leader with respect to using drones for
law enforcement purposes to the point where and this is
I think a feather in chief Dji's hat where from
other departments they'll come and learn from CPD. But anyway,
definitely check out Signal ninety nine if you haven't already done.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
So, Hey, we got to take a break. But when
we get back live in studio.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Eric Conroy publican candidate, and I think I don't want
to jinx it, but be a hell of a good
congressman for that first congressional district.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
We'll talk to Eric when we get back. Mike Allen,
Saturday midday. Voters are listening to the radio and they're
tured not school.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen an hour three,
third and final hour of Saturday Midday. You know, probably
a lot of you don't know. I got a pretty
smart audience, so maybe you do. The primary is may fit,
so that's coming up, and you know, there's a lot
on the primary ballot this time around. In my humble opinion,

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the most important race is that race for the first
Congressional District. My next guest is a candidate. I think
he was the first or close to the first announced candidate,
and that's Eric Conroy. We're going to talk to him
in just a little bit. He's a Westsider, elder boy.
I mean, that's all I'm need here basically. So anyway,

(01:09:02):
how's the campaign going.

Speaker 15 (01:09:04):
Eric, Well, hey, Mike, thanks for having me again. I
think maybe your followers could have a little bit of
a recap here on the race, and it's a bit
of a scene Center, Ohio District one currently occupied by
our favorite neighborhood leftist.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Reinvigorated First District.

Speaker 14 (01:09:21):
The reinvigorated First District.

Speaker 15 (01:09:22):
Yes, it's been redrawn, flip from about fifty three percent
blue to fifty three percent red. The new district has
most of the west Side del High Cleaves, Harrison, Olive,
Warren County, and all of Clinton County and that new
fifty three percent approximately makes it really one.

Speaker 14 (01:09:38):
Of the few footbaball seats in the country this year.

Speaker 15 (01:09:40):
And this will be a top five race with a
national profile that can not only determine control of the House,
but also whether the President.

Speaker 14 (01:09:48):
Gets impeached or not.

Speaker 15 (01:09:49):
So this is a massive race with national implications happening
right here in Cincinnati. And you know, with those high
stakes on the line, I'm proud and ecstatic to have
the endorsement of Senator Bernie Moreno. Bernie is a terrific
politician and an even better person, so having him by
my side is absolutely tremendous. And having his vote of

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confidence on me to not only win the race and
defeat Greg, but also to do the job in DC
and represent sure this district well is just something that
I am absolutely ecstatic and excited to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Do, no question.

Speaker 15 (01:10:22):
And we will also be putting out a press release
on Monday that says that our team is brought forward
nearly one point one million.

Speaker 14 (01:10:30):
Dollars to bear WHOA in this race.

Speaker 15 (01:10:33):
Right unprecedented, Right, Mike, We're we're still in the primary,
and you know what's a shame is that we're we're
using these funds on a primary and not against Greg
Landsman and especially against one of my opponents to refuses
to file his financial disclosure idea where his money's coming from.

Speaker 14 (01:10:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:10:48):
We're looking into it, but his financial disclosure is over
six months late and we don't know where the money's
coming from. So in any event, that's the state of
our Republican politics here. Yeah, in Southwest Ohio, which is
a shame, but we're confident we're going to get through
this primary and we're going to take on Greg. So
we need everyone to get out. Early voting started this

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week and it goes through May fifth, and we need
to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
What did you think about Landsman coming out I guess
initially at least in favor of the war. I was
kind of surprised, but given the district, maybe not. Did
you have anything to say or any.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Thoughts on well?

Speaker 14 (01:11:25):
I think he's in a bine right.

Speaker 15 (01:11:27):
Obviously, he's a Jewish Democrat, right, so he feels compelled
to support the war for a lot of his followers,
but at the same time he's under the pressure of
Nancy Pelosi and the National Democratic Party. Right, he campaigns
as a quote moderate Democrat here in the district, and
then he goes, and he is a coastal leftist in
DC and that's how he votes, and it's simply not appropriate.

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And that flip flopping on the Israel issue is just
a perfect example of why he's not fit to lead
this area and be our congressman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, I mean, you have to be consistent on something
as is that. And again, you know we're still in
the primary season, the primary election itself, and you've already
touched on some of it. But I he's so far,
so good for you. It certainly seems like I mean,
I watch it kind of afar from Afar.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Not a lot of reporting on it yet, there will be,
But I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
The question is are you satisfied with how things are going.

Speaker 15 (01:12:22):
We're absolutely pleased and we're e static. And as I mentioned,
with our fundraising, which we have out fundraised all of
our opponents combined and our next closest opponent by almost
a factor of three, we have the resources to do
this right, and we have the resources to flip this district.
And it's an important race this year, so we really
need to treat everyone on board. We need one hundred
percent Republican turnout both in the primary, but also in

(01:12:45):
the general right, and this is a critical midterm right.
If we don't keep the House, the presidency is essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Dead, no question, we need to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I mean the thought of Speaker of the House Hakeen
Jeffreys just frightens the hell out of me and a
lot of other people too. You know, everything that Trump
has accomplished. If we don't keep the House and the
Senate as well, obviously it's all gone. I mean it'll
be gone in a flash.

Speaker 14 (01:13:14):
It'll be gone in a flash.

Speaker 15 (01:13:15):
You're right, and we need to have more urgency for
these midterms and for this race in particular, and whether
it's the Israel Iran issue, or the affordability issue or
other issues plaguing you know, this district in this country.
We need some urgency here on the Republican side that
we need to rally and unite and make sure these
midterms are successful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Your background is a unique background, perfectly suited I think
for being in Congress. With respect to former CIA Air
Force Academy, I think you were in Air Force intelligence
right your thoughts on the war so far, We're in
this negotiation phase which I don't think is going anywhere.
I don't think you can trust those people any further,

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you can throw them. But your thoughts on it given
your background.

Speaker 15 (01:13:58):
Yeah, well, well, firstly, this last week was a bit
of an odd source of pride for me watching the
rescue operation because I was in Air Force Special Operations
and then also in the CIA, so seeing all my
old wow organizations participate in that operation too, it was
just a source of pride despite the tragic event that
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
And then they go scoop the guy up too, you know. Incredible, right,
it really is.

Speaker 15 (01:14:23):
And I think in general, right, whether it's the rescue
operation but also events in Venezuela and Iran, I think
this is a demonstration of Trump's foreign policy master strokes.
And for me, in my past careers and the Air
Force and the CIA, I often got frustrated that we
weren't doing enough and we needed middle ground surgical options
because a lot of times in action and sitting in

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on our hands is not an option. But World War
III is also your responsible Yeah, really, so having middle
ground options like a Special Operations ray to take up Modurero,
or doing an air campaign in Iran which really looks
looks a lot more like Libya or Serbia more than
anything else, are great middle ground options that, yes, they
affect foreign policy, which is a big picture thing, but

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also a lot of these foreign policy issues, now, Mike,
they affect day to day life here in the district, right.
And if we get some more friendly rulers in places
like Venezuela and Iran, not only do we have a
safer world, but we're going to have a more stable
energy market as well, and that's going to affect the
affordability issue here. And I really commend the administration for
taking on a lot of these long simmerine foreign policy

(01:15:28):
issues like yeah, because they've they've frankly festered far too long.
So to see them be attacked appropriately, and I think
with just the right amount of involvement in force, I
think is perfect. And I'm cautiously optimistic about the ceasefire
and the talks, and I think, you know, our long
standing gripes with Iran have been we want no.

Speaker 14 (01:15:50):
Nukes, no rockets. That's the big No nukes is the
biggest one.

Speaker 15 (01:15:54):
No nukes, no rockets, no proxies, no Hezbalah or Whothy's
running around.

Speaker 14 (01:16:00):
I'm causing trouble.

Speaker 15 (01:16:01):
And then also to have the Shradiforn moves open, right,
So I think we'll probably see talks revolve around those
those four issues, you know, nukes, rockets, proxies, and the
Shradiforn moves. And you know, the President and the administration
have pulled off some really amazing deals in this term
and in his last term, so I'm curious to see
where it will go. I'm cautiously optimistic. But at the

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same time, the Iranians are notoriously shifty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
That's the fair approach, that's the thing I mean, and
you hit the nail on the head. They cannot have
a nuclear weapon. I mean, they just can't. I argue
with people about that. While Trump's doing this and it's horrible.
Why are we in this war? Oh well, let me
ask you. Do you want Iran to have a nuclear weapon?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Ah? You know, that's no big deal. Blah blah blah.
It's a big deal.

Speaker 15 (01:16:46):
It's a huge deal. And there's kind of the game
within the game on a lot of these foreign policy issues,
whether it's Venezuela or aron. I call it the checkers
game and the chess game. Yeah, the checkers game is
that we do want a stable Middle East for the
energy markets, just to have a stable region and a
safe Israel as well. But also the chess game behind

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it is really how all this affects China. Yeah, it's
cutting off Chinese allies and putting pressure on them as well.
So we often have the local game, which I call
the checkers game, and then we have the chess game,
which is the larger geopolitical game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Well, your background, you brought out something that you don't
hear a lot, but it's very important. Is the China
element in this whole thing? I mean China correct me
if I'm wrong. It's saddled up with Iran pretty much,
and this might be a chance to knock them, maybe
not out of the box, but set them back a
little bit because they're being aggressive around the world, as

(01:17:42):
I'm sure you know, trying to set up relationships with
people formerly our allies.

Speaker 15 (01:17:49):
Yeah, and I think you know, demonstrating our capabilities in
places like Venezuela and Iran is a deterrent right, and
it is part of the President's peace through Strength approach,
which is showing China that we mean business and we're serious,
and it also demonstrates our capabilities, which of course we're
like to keep hidden for a while, and to flex
those muscles every every now and then is needed. I

(01:18:11):
especially for a formidable adversary like China.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:18:15):
And I think I've said on your show before that
you know, historically we've had Russia in China our as
our main adversaries. I always like to call Russia. It's
like the nineteen eighty five Firebird trans am. Right, it
used to be really cool. Right, Maybe you had one
of these hours Burnt Reynolds deal. Yeah, the Burt Reynolds deal. Right,
it used to be really cool. It can still still

(01:18:36):
go really fast in a straight line, but it's days
are kind of passing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:18:40):
And China is the twenty twenty six Porsche nine to
eleven with all the upgrades. Yeah right, we need to
focus on what the Porsche is doing and less on
what the Firebird Transam is doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I wanted to ask you this too. It just just
came to me. I had on the show this morning.
Janis Heisel, senior reporter for the Epoch Times. She has
been all over this fraud, starting out in Minnesota but
now in California. She did a pretty comprehensive story on it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I mean, the one of the people that she interviewed,
was I think an inspector or someone in a position.
They're talking about close to one hundred billion dollars fraud
and it's hospice care. Where these people are, you know,
saying hey, we need hospice care and the people don't exist?
What can Congress do about that more than they are doing?

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Now? I know, I guess Comer is kind of all
over that. But what can Congress do? Because I'll tell
you what, Er, I think it's probably a lot more
rampant than that.

Speaker 15 (01:19:45):
Well, I'll tell you what. Right, I worked fourteen years
in the CIA in the Air Force. As much as
I love my work in those organizations, there's a lot
of waste, right, And it's usually a waste through apathy
or incompetence.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:19:57):
And the analogy I give really is government is not
a business. There's no bottom line, right, So there's not
really a whole lot of pressure to make sure that
money is being spent well, which is your taxpayer dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:20:10):
Right, And if you look at.

Speaker 15 (01:20:11):
It, we have a seven trillion dollar federal budget, seven
trillion dollars, right, I'm pretty sure at least five to
eight percent of that is probably being wasted or worse.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Right, that might be a low number. It might be
a low number, right.

Speaker 15 (01:20:23):
And I think we need to consider some cuts to
government agencies to kind of compensate for that. And it's
putting money back into the taxpayer's pocket, right, And the
more money we could put back in the taxpayer's pocket,
we're going to start solving that affordability issue as well.
I think downsizing government is part of that approach.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
It's to me, it's just stunning to see these things,
and Janis, if you haven't read it, it would be
a good idea for you to read them, I'd think,
I mean, she's down into the nitty gritty of it,
and these so called regulators that are supposed to be
watching it they're not. And well, I'll tell you California's California.

(01:21:00):
I don't think they can afford to lose one hundred
billion dollars on that.

Speaker 15 (01:21:05):
No, you're right, and we need we need better enforcement,
we need better accountability among our government agencies and tax
pair dollars, and we just don't have that. And there's
a lot of different reasons why it's it's sometimes it's
apathy or incompetence. Are not having the right tools or
systems to do so. But really, I mean, it's twenty
twenty six now, Mike. Look, we have abilities to do that. Sure,
we have great technology and we can track these dollars

(01:21:27):
better and more efficiently. And it's time to do that
because we need to make sure our economy is booming yep,
and we need every dollar to do that now. And
it's not it's not the nineteen fifties and the nineteen
sixties anymore. We need to get really smart about how
we're spending tax pair dollars and how we're feeling this economy.

Speaker 14 (01:21:42):
It starts with fraud, waste and abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I mean three more years are a little bit less
of the Trump administration and hopefully Republican House and Senate.
I know that might be problematic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
In some areas, but I mean he's got three we'd
have a strong peer of time to do what he
said he's going to do with respect to this this fraud,
because I would have had no idea it was that much.
Having said that, you get haw Keen, Jeffries and the Democrats,
everything is going to be reversed. Do you think they're

(01:22:17):
going to care at all about fraud and waste in
you know, hospice programs in California.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
You're not.

Speaker 14 (01:22:23):
And I really admire what Elon and Doze were we.

Speaker 15 (01:22:27):
Ampt to do, but it is so massive that seven
trillion dollars is so massive that really they were only
unfortunately able to scratch the surface and really need long
term government initiatives that really attack that problem at his heart.
And I'm hoping that us winning these midterms will be
a part of that long term solution to keep these
policies going to cut government spending.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
I'm hoping. So, I mean, I look at the polls
and it was one poll favorability of Democrats. It was like,
I don't know, twenty three or twenty four percent overall,
and it was an impression of the Democrat Party and
even the Democrats, it was pretty overwhelming that they.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Don't like where the Democrat Party is going.

Speaker 14 (01:23:10):
They don't.

Speaker 15 (01:23:11):
And I think that's part of our momentum for the
midterms is even the Democratic approval rating of their own
party is poor, it's hard, and our approval rating of
our party is higher than the Democrats. Right, So this
fact that we're going to give up on the mid
terms because it's a mid term and the ruling party
usually loses seats. We need to ditch that mentality because
there's a real chance here, given the disarray that the

(01:23:33):
Democrats are in, that we can win these midterms. And
we need to win these mid terms. And it starts
right here, kicking out Greg Lanceman a district one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Well, and here's the thing, and I'll make this be
the last question on this. I mean, and Trump has
said this. I haven't heard him say it enough, though.
We have to get his base, the hardcore magas out
for the mid terms. I mean, if they don't show up,
we're screwed, I think, and I hope that message is
getting that, Hey, you can't sit at home and say, well,

(01:24:04):
Trump's not on the ballot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I'm not worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
They have to get out, and I hope Trump does,
and I'm sure he will what he has to do
to make sure that happens.

Speaker 14 (01:24:12):
Well, I think you're we're going to see that.

Speaker 15 (01:24:14):
We're going to see the White House really reving up
awareness about these midterms. And just right here in Ohio,
we've got just about everybody else on the ballot other
than the president. We have a governor's race, we have
a Senator that needs to get re elected. We have
multiple congressional races, both in Cincinnati and Toledo that are competitive.
So this is a battleground here in Ohio. It always
has been, and specifically these midterms.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Yep. Well, I'm feeling good about it. I just I
don't want to see the gains that President Trump has
made both in his first term and his second term.
I don't want to see those go away because too
much good has happened.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
But we're about out of time. I want to ask
you anything else you wanted to cover.

Speaker 14 (01:24:55):
Well, you know, I had a bit of a fun
campaign story that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
We're yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me.

Speaker 15 (01:25:00):
You know you know my you know, my dad sure
to do clever del High and Elder Boy, Well, you
know him and my uncle have been awesome putting out signs,
especially around the.

Speaker 14 (01:25:08):
Del High area.

Speaker 15 (01:25:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
And they're putting.

Speaker 15 (01:25:11):
Them out just normally, right, And they put out a
bunch of signs a couple of weeks ago, and they disappeared, right,
and they're like, oh, that's interesting. Maybe it's the Democrats
or some kids. Right, you know, let's let's have a
little fun with us. Let's go put them back out.
But let's put Apple air tags on them so that
when they're stolen, let's let's go see where they go.
So my my dad went out and put them all
back out in mostly the same places, and then we

(01:25:33):
tracked where they went because they were taken like almost
twenty four hours later. Like there's some sign there's some
del High signed gestapo that's running around and taking down
signs within twenty four hours.

Speaker 14 (01:25:45):
So we tracked where these signs went.

Speaker 15 (01:25:47):
You know where they ended up at it, I know,
the del Hide Township Trustee building.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:25:52):
That interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Well do you think thinking it violates some ordinance or something?

Speaker 14 (01:25:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:25:57):
Well, you know, I think there's some maybe right of way, yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
You pick up the phone and you call, you know,
oh here's the issue.

Speaker 14 (01:26:03):
No courtesy call. No like, hey, we got your signs.
You know they're in the right of way, come pick
them up. No courtesy call.

Speaker 15 (01:26:10):
It wasn't until my dad went over to the Dallahi
Township building and said, hey, you have some of my
son's signs here, and they said, oh no, no we don't.
No you have them here, Oh no, no we don't.
And then he pulled out his phone He's like, no,
you have them here. They're tagged with air tags. They're
here at this building and there's at least three of
them here right. So moral of the story is, if
you mess with the Conroary for Congress signs, I'm gonna

(01:26:32):
taunt you. We're gonna make fun of you publicly because
there's no reason politics campaign.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Absolutely, and your dad's a pit bull too.

Speaker 15 (01:26:39):
He is okay, he presents like a quiet chemist, but
he's a pit pool.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
There you go. Well, last question. If somebody wants to
help the campaign, help you, what do they do?

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
Go to Ericconroy dot com. You can read about my
story and you can also donate if you're able. But
really we just need we need voter turnout right now
or going into starting. You can go over to the
boean Norwood. You can vote anytime, and we need you
out there right. We need you out there. We have signs,
you can email the You can email or call the
information on our website. We're happy to deliver signs and

(01:27:09):
we need door knockers as well, so can on that website,
email us or call our team and we'd love to
have you because we need to flip this district.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Thank you, Eric, I really appreciate it. I'm sure we'll
be calling on you some more. I really appreciate you coming.
I appreciate you coming in studio too, Mike. And so, Okay,
hey we got to take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
But when we get back, we're going to talk baseball
with our guy for all things Cincinnati Reds, Dave Yety Armbrus.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
And we'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen
Saturday Midday plus their free haul. Hey we're back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday Midday. Well, I'll tell
you what, I don't know what to say about the
Cincinnati Reds. If you would have asked me last week,
I think my answer probably would be different than it
is this week.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
But hey, that's baseball, you know, up and down here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
To talk about it is our man for all things
Cincinnati Reds, Dave Yitty, our brewster.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Yet, how are you well? I'm good, Mike.

Speaker 12 (01:28:03):
I would be a lot better if the Reds would
have won that game last night instead of getting blown out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
That was kind of ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Yeah, I tend to to. They lost through the Angels
at Great American Ballpark. Chase Burns I think took the loss.
He's one and one, five and a third innings, pitch,
seven hits, five runs. But here's the thing. The Reds
managed only four hits. I mean, you ain't gonna do
much if you can only hit four things in a game.

Speaker 12 (01:28:30):
No, that's a problem. That is a real problem. And
this offense has been a problem since day one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 12 (01:28:36):
I still believe they're dead last, and scoring and run
scored in all of baseball are close to it. Anyway,
It's just been a struggle mic all the way around,
and they have got to get something going. I don't
know what that is at the moment. I would tend
to believe that some of these guys their leash isn't
very much longer. And maybe after the off day on Monday,

(01:28:57):
you may say some see some changes. I'm not sure.
I mean, I can tell you that right now. The
right field play is a black hole for this team.
The right fielders are hitting two thirty three with no
home runs in one RBI the entire season.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
That's a problem.

Speaker 12 (01:29:13):
That's I mean, things have got to change, and they
got to change rapidly, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Think they will.

Speaker 12 (01:29:19):
I can't they the team cannot let just discontinue like
this without doing something to improve it, because other than
burns last night, and you know, he's a kid, he's
going to have those games. The pitching for the most
part has been good, good enough, but the offense is
just as struggled. And now you're you know, you find
yourself in a three game losing streak.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Yeah, and coming out of something that was pretty good too.
They are overall, I believe, eight and six in the
NL Central, they're three. They've lost three in a row,
five and five on their last ten. However, the other
teams in that division aren't playing that well either, so
they're not getting that far behind. But I looked this morning.

(01:30:01):
You had team batting here Magon, you touched on this
two three. They're twenty seven out of thirty teams. Well,
I'll tell you that's not what I think we're all
hoping to see. With ELI being recharged with getting Auennio Suarez.
I mean, it's not time at all to hit the

(01:30:21):
panic button. But what do you think, other than what
you just said, what do you think they gotta do well?

Speaker 12 (01:30:27):
I mean, I think the good news is you're starting
to see La start to swing the bat a little
bit better. He has four home runs now, three of
those batting right handed, which was always a little bit
of a problem for him, so he looks better. South Stewart,
oh for three last night. He's still having a pretty
good year, and I think he'll continue to have a
good year. The other guys we got to get going

(01:30:49):
a little bit, though. I mean, I think au Haano
Swarz two hits last night. He's doing exactly what this
team thought he was going to do. He'd come in,
he hit some balls out of the park. He's going
to strike out a lot, there's no question about that.
I think he's probably going to be DH a heck
a lot more than he is a third base. It
looks like he may have lost a little bit a

(01:31:09):
step or two, but you know, he's not young anymore
playing third base, so I think you'll see him not
all the time, but for the most part he's going
to be the DH, which he has been already. You know,
just got to get some of these other guys going.
Freedle's off to a good start. He's about one fifty four.
He's your leadoff guy. You know, he's a guy that
has to get on base. You just have to get

(01:31:31):
on base, no matter how you do it. That's that
has to improve. And I'm sure they're pulling their hair out,
you know, trying to get figure out what to do
as a is a collective team. It's really funny how
these things go. It's not like one guy's in a
slump and everybody else is hitting. Like the whole team
now slump. At that point, I don't know what you do. Well,

(01:31:53):
it's not like fixing one guy. You got to fix
eight or nine of them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Right in the week before this, they were winning, but man,
it was always by one run. And you know, I'm
watching him, I'm thinking, come on, guys, it's time to
start hitting the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
You mentioned though, Spencer Steer. I checked him out too.
He's he's at a one eighty two clip. But south
Stewart three forty. I mean he's in good shape, don't
you think.

Speaker 12 (01:32:17):
Yeah, I mean south Stewart. And here's the thing about
south Stewart, not only that he has eleven walks. Think
about that for a rookie. He has more walks than
strikeouts at this point in the season. Boy, he knows
how to take a good at bat, he really does.
He's he's you know, he's on base a lot, he'll
run a little bit. He's I think he's playing first
base better than most people thought he would, even if

(01:32:40):
you look at what he did in spring training, I
think he's come light years from that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
And he just gives this team a little bit of
a little bit of an edge his excitement.

Speaker 12 (01:32:50):
I love it, right, you know, he's kind of the
guy that if if he's on your team, you love him.
If he's on the other team, you hate him. Yeah,
that kind that kind of guy, because he gets pumps
up when he gets hits and hits home runs, you know,
and I love it. I mean, I think the guy
you know, so far has been more than anybody could
have asked. And I do think the offense will get

(01:33:12):
going a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Mike.

Speaker 12 (01:33:13):
I think they need to make some changes, but for
the most part, you know, you're not going to change McClain,
de la Cruz, Stewart or Suarez. They're there, The catching's there,
so it has to be. You got to see Tyler
Stevenson pick it up a little bit. He did it
a home run the other day, which was a good sign.
They just got to continue. They have got to score
some runs today. Well, you know the Red's bullpen.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
I'm reading it here that two six six era, that's
really that's never been better. I mean, I don't know
the overall Lodoloh, he's got a three point three eighty
eight ERA. So I mean the pitchers are doing their thing.
Let me ask you talking about moves? Uh, And you
mentioned TJ. Friedel one sixty seven. I mean, how long

(01:33:58):
can you afford to carry bat like that on the team.
And I'm not knocking him. I mean people get off
to a slow start, But I don't know, what do
you think?

Speaker 12 (01:34:06):
Well, you can't And you know, I just wonder if
he's completely healthy. Nobody says he isn't healthy. Who knows,
But it just doesn't look like the same TJ. Friedel
we've come to see. So you know, I think you
got to give him a little more time. I mean,
he's your leadoff guy. He was reliable in the past.
You're hoping he can be reliable again. But again, you can't.

(01:34:29):
You can't go on forever. I mean, this is professional baseball.
These guys are getting paid a lot of money. You're
paid to do a job. Do the damn job. I mean,
that's that's all I can say. And if you can't,
we have guys that maybe can come up and can
do the job.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
The same thing kind of with kee Brian Hayes. Now
we all know why he's there is because of his defense,
but not goodness. I mean, he's hitting ninety seven. You
can't carry that for that long, even if the guy
is a good fielder, don't. I know he didn't hit
all that much last year, but I don't I think
anybody expected him to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
But again, when you're on the well, he's not even
on the interstate, he's off. So I don't know what
are your thoughts on him? I love seeing it.

Speaker 12 (01:35:09):
I mean, I mean, he's he's a great defender and
here and I mean I think that's the that's that's
the big debate, all right. If you can hit, you
better be able to pitch and field, and I mean
as a whole, as a team, and if nobody's hitting,
then maybe you need him. There's some argument that you
need him more than ever because you've got to prevent

(01:35:30):
runs through scoring and he can do that. On the
other hand, and the way I kind of lean, I'll
take a little less defense if you can give me
some more offense, right and but I don't know what
they do. What do they do at third base? I mean,
do you do you put Suarez in there every day?
I don't think that's the answer. Do you put South

(01:35:52):
Stewart over there?

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:35:54):
I don't know if that's the answer, or or Spencer Steer.
I think the easiest thing for the Reds right now
is maybe to increase the offense into outfield. I mean,
you got Reese Hines, who was killing the ball in Louisville.
He's batting three forty one, already has four home runs.
You got JJ Bleday, who I honestly thought was going

(01:36:14):
to make the team out of spring training and didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
He's hitting near three hundred.

Speaker 12 (01:36:19):
So you have some options in the outfield, probably more
so than you do at at third base or some
of the infield positions.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
So it will see.

Speaker 12 (01:36:28):
I really do think that if discontinues over this weekend,
we might see a player move or two by the
time the Reds play the Giants on Tuesday, because they
got that off day on Monday, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I mean at three forty one, how do you not
bring Reese Hins up when you got some of these
averages that the guys have.

Speaker 12 (01:36:47):
Now, well it is trip away and sometimes you know,
guys hit hit well and they come up and then
all of a sudden they bat one hundred. So you know,
that could very well be the case. And I think
you but I don't know that he can do any
more that he's doing, So maybe you you make sure
that you're making the right decision.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
With say, right field.

Speaker 12 (01:37:08):
Okay, we know these guys, we know what they You
know what Will Benson is. I think you probably know
what Noelvie Martell is. At this point, we don't know
what re signs is. Maybe he comes up and plays
right field every day for the next three weeks and
we get a pretty good idea if he can play
up here or not. You know, those are decisions for
guys that get paid a whole lot more money than me, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
You, you know, they have to decide that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
I get that you mentioned no Elvie Marte. I mean
he's at one fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I don't you can't afford to carry a player hitting
that very long, can you? No, you can't.

Speaker 12 (01:37:43):
It goes back to the same thing, Mike, You really
can At some point you can give them the bene
benefit of the doubt for a little while. But when
you start losing three, four, five, six games in a row,
you gotta make a change because this again we've talked
about this before. These games right now are just as
important as the games in August in September you win them,
especially when you and I know we've talked about this,

(01:38:05):
when you look at the schedule the Reds face in September,
you better have some wins under your belt because it's
going to be a hard time to even go five
hundred in September.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
Yeah, we talked about that last week. That is absolutely
brutal man. I didn't realize that that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I mean, they're going to have to have a little
bit of of some wiggle space I guess if you
will going into some of those teams. But today we've
got Brandon Williamson one on one, four point seven six
ERA going against George Klassen, no record yet, six point
seven to five.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Y are your thoughts on that? What are you looking
for today? We've got about a minute.

Speaker 12 (01:38:43):
I'm looking forward to another good start from Brandon Williamson.
His first one was rough, his second one was really good,
and here he just knows how to pitch. I mean,
here's a guy who you know, maybe other three youngsters
has maybe not the best stuff, but he is a
good idea what he's doing on the mound. So I
expect him to go out today and pitch really well

(01:39:05):
against the Angels, and for his sake and for this
team's sake, it would be nice to see him go six,
maybe even into the seventheen kind of give that bullpen
a bit of a rest.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Today, that would be good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
It is always sure, appreciate it, and I hope we
can talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
You got it, Mike. Thanks, Okay, thanks? Ed? All right,
David he Armbrewster.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Yeah, you know, like I said, if you would have
asked me last Saturday and we did talk about it,
I'd feel pretty good about the Reds. And again it's
only a week, but man, they got to start hitting. Hey,
I am out of here, Mike Allen, Saturday midday.

Speaker 13 (01:39:38):
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