4-29-26 Gary Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan

Gary Jeff fills in for Sloan discussing the latest in politics, reproduction rights, and new Supreme Court decisions.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You can bet you see athletics is in trouble unless
you're a scholarship athlete for the Bearcats, and then you
probably should restrain yourself from doing so. What a nice,
nice way to start the series last night against the Rockies,
the Reds at home with a seven to two banger.
Ellie de la Cruz show, incredible defense, two steals his

(00:29):
tent home run before the month of May, and a
fantastic pitching performance by Chase Burns along with the Spencer
Steer two run Jack. Okay, so it's the Rockies, but
you win the ones you gotta win, and they'll go
at it again tonight here in the Home of the Reds.
Gary jeff In for SLOANEI once again, and I don't

(00:51):
want to start this out on a down note, but
when somebody says but after a statement like that, you
know what's coming. The suicide rate among our veterans, while
it has been down, is still higher than the general public.

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That vets are three and a half to four times
more likely to commit suicide from PTSD, depression, you name it,
than the general public. Well, our next guest, it's not
about that necessarily, but it is about helping our vets

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who have seen things and experience things you and I
probably can't even imagine. They've endured things that it's just
boggles of mind, and they come home to a totally

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different environment and it's hard to adjust a lot of times. Likewise,
there are thousands upon thousands of animals in shelters that
have literally no hope but a cage if they actually

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get to live out the rest of their days, and
that's no way to live. You want to live in
a cage for the rest of your life or worse. So,
last fall I had the chance to through a press
release a meet and talk to Vicky Lessandro, and she

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was spearheading and heading up a Cincinnati chapter of the
Veterans Care Animal Services the VCAS. They've placed their first
dog with a veteran to hear more about this incredible program.
Once again, we welcome Vickylesandro to the show. Vicki, it's

(03:06):
great to have you back on the air, and I
know that there's a lot of good news with VCAS,
so you'd like to share with folks. Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Thank you very much for that intro.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Let me just correct Veterans Companion Animal Veterans Companion.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I knew that.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I knew that.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know, sometimes sometimes I just get lost in myself,
so people have to snap you back into reality. Vickim,
thank you. Veterans Companion Animal Services. And when you started
the Cincinnati chapter, when was it was last last fall,
at the last last summer.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, we actually launched it fourth and July, that's right.
I thought that was an appropriate date, so launched it
fourth of July. So we've been, you know, about nine
months now working on getting all of the right things
in place, and as you said, we've actually placed two
dogs and are getting ready to place our third dog.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's great, that's great. Yeah, so yeah, go through the process,
because you're not just picking a dog out of a
shelter that needs a home and giving it to a veteran.
It's a lot more complicated than that. And you guys
are doing all the heavy lifting and the legwork to

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make this stuff happen. And you'd think that, oh, well, yeah,
that's neat that they're doing this. They're getting these rescue
dogs out into a home and giving a veteran a
chance to care for something, someone a purpose. But it's
way deeper than that right, Vicki.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It is, and we work very closely with the veterands
to find right dog for them. We like to say,
you know, we put as much emphasis on the dog
as we do the veteran, but we want to make
sure that it is it's the right dog when we
find When we meet with the veteran, we get all

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the information about exactly what type of dog they want,
what energy level, what how much grooming do they are
they able to do or do they want to do?
You know, are they are they looking for a large
dog a small dog, So we don't just go pick
out a dog for them. We find out what dog
are they looking for. We don't guarantee breed, but everybody

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comes in with their favorite breed and we work really
hard to try and match that breed to them.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
We uh, we.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Get we off seven weeks of free training once they
get the dog, so that it's not here's a dog,
good luck, hope that dog works out with you. If
there's issues with the dog, you know we will. We
will work with them to make sure that this is
the right match for them and the dog. And we

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you know, we don't we don't give you a dog
and say goodbye. You become part of our alumni and
part of our family. We get together, you know, once
or twice a year with the veterans and the dogs
and have picnics and uh. When we give you the dog,
we give you all the supplies you need. We provide
food for a year for free. We provide all your

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veterinaritare for a year. We make this as easy and
as stress free as we can for the veteran who,
as you said, is already struggling with anxiety and PTSD
that the last thing we want to do is give
them a dog.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's just going to add to that.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
How does how does the how does a veteran qualify
if they're interested in having an animal to care for?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
They need to just say I need I need a companion.
We don't ask for any kind of medical records. We
just if if they say to us, we need a companion.
We're struggling with this, that's all we need to hear, and.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
We start the process.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
We send them the application. Uh, they complete it. They
fill out of forms that says meet your match. So
we get to you know, we're able to capture all
that information about what kind of dog they want and
and we sit down and have a meeting with them,
and then we go to work and we find that
dog and it's it's a struggle. We send them multiple

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dogs to choose from. We don't say here's a dog
for you, so they really get to be involved in
that process of picking their dog.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Now, does the dog go to a foster family before
it gets into the Veterans' hands.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, if it's if it's in a shelf currently a
couple of the shelters we work with automatically when they
get a dog that goes into foster care.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
But if it is.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Coming directly from a shelter, we work with foster families
that were always in need of finding more foster families.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
But it will go for two.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
To four weeks and we will get weekly updates about,
you know, how is it eating, is it food aggressive?
How does it do with children or pets that might
be in the house, and we try to match that.
If the veterans has a family with other animals, we
try to find a foster family that matches that situation,

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so we can really see the dog's behaviors.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
So what is it? What do you believe? And this
is the driver all of all this, because you're saving
two beings at the same time. You're saving a vet,
you're helping give a vet purpose, You're giving an animal
at home a home that they do not have. Up
to that point, what do you believe it does for

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the veteran.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Oh, We've got one of our veterans right now who
uh got Cookie back in February. And if I talk
to him on the phone, the smile I can hear
on his face and he constantly says to me.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
This dog changed my life. He was living, he was living.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Alone, and he has a dog now that is by
his side every day and goes on little trips with
him and loves to ride in the car. And it
just has made the biggest difference in that man's life.
And it's and and and that's our goal is to

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give them. Like we said, many of them are suffering
from loneliness, anxiety, depression, And there's just scientific proof of
what adults can do. You know that human and animal
companionship can just physically and emotionally make a difference in

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their life. And we've got proof to show that with
with the veterans that we've already placed dogs with.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
They say you're about ready to place your third dog
with a veteran. You've been to operate. You launched it
last July fourth. Are you having any big plans for
your anniversary?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
You know, we just we finally just got a permanent
office that we will be using quite a bit and
inviting people to come in and see what we're all
about and you know, hear our stories and meet some
of our vets. I'm sure for the fourth of July event,

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we will we will be doing something that will you know,
just get the community involved. And we're out there doing
a lot of community involvement this summer. There's a Veterans
Appreciation event that's happening and we will definitely be there.
We go to the VA once a month and set
up a table, talk to vets and and they are

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interested in the program, they sign up right there. So
we're really starting to get out there in the community
and giving people the opportunity to volunteer with us, to
become a foster family, to if you're a veteran to
get a dog, you know, if you're we finally have
a trainer, and if you are a veteran who owns

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your own dog that we didn't place with you, we
will give you seven weeks of free training with your dog.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's great. So even even situations where you haven't placed
a dog with a veteran, a veteran can still come
to VCAS and get that free training.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yes, yes, all they have to do is go to
our website and there's a button at the top.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
They go to.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Vcosts charity dot org and there's a button at the
top that says Veterans Apply, and there you can apply
for a dog or you can apply for training, and
that gets the process started.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's amazing. And again for the first year, when you
place a dog with a veteran, you take care of
the dog's food, you take care of medical treatment that
it needs, and as you mentioned, yea treats.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
When they're running low on any any products that they
need for that dog, we provide it. So you know,
they get the beds and the cages and the leashes
and everything the day they get the dog, and then
from there throughout the year. We just don't want this
to be a burden on that veteran that first year
while they're building that bond with the dog.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Sure, that's it's an incredible chair I love it. I
loved it the first time I talked to you. I
love it even more now and I'm glad to see
that you're still going strong. V c a S The
Veterans Companion Animal Services of Cincinnati, And give the website again,
Vicky one more time.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's v COS v c a S Charity dot org.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
All right, fantastic and feel free to keep in touch
you always do. I appreciate that. And as you mentioned,
you started launched last July, but you're only up to
on the verge of three placements, right. What what took
so long to, uh, to really start things kicking in.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, it took us a while to find the shelters
that you know we have. We have contracts with four
shelters here in town that number one. If the dog
is not the right dog for the first year, we
will take that dog back and we will find them
a different dog. So we had to find the shelters
that you know we kind of work with our program.

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And then it took us a much longer time than
we expected to find a trainer. So it is just
and then you know, it's about a three month process
with each veterand from the time they first fill out
their application until we find the right dog and the
dog's gone into foster care and things.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
So.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know, it's it's it's a process.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's not something that you fill out your application and
you know two days later you've got a dog. It's
something we want to make sure, like I said, that
this is right for the dog and the veterans.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
So love takes time.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Process.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Love takes time, unless it does unless you meet somebody
in Vegas. Vicky Lessandro from Because the Veterans Companion Animal Services.
Thanks again the update, VICKI coming up after news. Reverend
Jim Harden from Compasscare USA on the SPLC and the
hot water the Southern Poverty Law Center suddenly finds itself

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in after they've been throwing that boiling water on groups
like his m It's coming up, Gary Jeffann for Sloane
seven hundred WLW. Fifty years ago, the Southern Poverty Law
Center was heralded as a champion of civil rights. Eight

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days ago in the United States District Court, a federal
grand jury indicted the SPLC on several charges wire fraud,
defrauding their donors, and the list is pretty extensive because
while the SPLC, their state admission was always fighting white

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supremacy and extremists hate groups. They were actually funding the KKK,
the Area Nation, the National Alliance with the money they
got from their donors, and then the money they were
actually fostering hate, the hate that they're supposed to be

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opposed to as a group. And it's going to be
interesting to see how the Southern Poverty Law Center gets
off this hook, because they're the ones that put the
bait in the water in the first place. It's an
amazing story. One of the groups that the Southern Poverty

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Law Center before all this had targeted were pregnancy centers
like Compass Care USA, saying that somehow they were a
hate group when they were giving them an alternative to
aborting their babies. The man who heads Compasscare USA as

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our guest for this half hour, and he is back
now to talk about the SPLC and the big lie
that they've allegedly been purporting for the last well a
couple of decades at least. Reverend Jim Harden, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, thanks for having me back. It's always a pleasure
to be with you.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, I tell you what there is, it's always a
pleasure to have you. It's amazing how this thing is
boomeranged back on the Southern Poverty Law Center, isn't.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
It it is? You know, we've always kind of known,
as you know, Christian pro lifers, that the system is
is is not what it appears to be. You know,
when you have a ostensibly private nonprofit the organization that
is so in league with federal law enforcement as to

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as to give them lists for example, and federal law
enforcement would treat those lists of actionable evidence for investigation
is beyond the pale? What is it?

Speaker 5 (18:17):
What?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
What kind of leadership do we have to have in
government that would essentially allow the FBI to be co
opted by a communist leaning entity that would essentially drive
their investigative activity to silence or target the politically disfavored.
Anybody who doesn't hold or carry the water of communist

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leaning Democrats get targeted for investigation, increased fines, increased you know, uh,
you know, time in jail. You know, we're talking about
people like Mark Hawk, who's a pro life leader in Pennsylvania.
He got the FBI coming after you know, they don
lot raid on his home, putting his wife and seven

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children under the gun. What are the This is absolute,
absolutely amazing. So yeah, the Southern Property lost Ander has
done some bad things, no doubt about it. It's clear
now that the left. You know, the left is responsible
for left is violence, we know that, but apparently they're
also responsible for violence on the right.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's amazing.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
This is good.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
This is classic communist style propaganda. It's designed to dismantle
and and to disrupt society so that no one knows
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Like, what is this?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is this true?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Is it real? Is this right?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Though?

Speaker 8 (19:40):
Feel?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
It doesn't feel right? I mean, I don't think there's
that much violence on the right. I don't know a
lot of violent right ring people. In fact, the right
wing people that I know aren't against violence. They're the
ones that want to protect all people equally, like preborn
boys and girls peacefully giving their own money and their
own time and their own resources to help women have
their babies. And yet the Southern Poverty Law Center create

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a list and they sent this list to the FBI,
and the FBI created a memo of pro life Catholics
and sent it all across the country to investigate pro lifers.
And now we have whistleblower coming out of the FBI
and twenty twenty twenty twenty three named Garrett O'Boyle. He said, look,
they took us off of bona fide sex crime investigations

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and there's many of them. Unfortunately, to look into pregnancy centers,
you've got to be kidding me. Pregnancy centers, pregnancy centers
in this country give away a half a billion dollars
a half a billion dollars. And it turns out the
Southern Poverty Law Center is basically now a de facto
government agency designed specifically to to just attack Christian Judeo

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Christian organizations that would to wipe them off the public square.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What did they charge, say, compa scare or pregnancy centers
it what what was the allegation? What was the thing
that they used to target you and other groups like yours?
But what was their argument? What was there? What was
there evidence?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Right wing extremists, There was no evidence. There was no evidence.
There was no evidence of any wrongdoing. That's that was
the point, that's the whole point. There is no evidence
of wrongdoing whatsoever. There is nothing actionable that would that
would that would require the FBI to think that there's
some sort of of you know, violence and coming from uh,

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you know, Christian pro lifers, or to think that there's
some sort of of of of crime that's actually happening
from Christian pro lifers. It's just not it's just it's
just not there.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, as you as you mentioned Jim, as you mentioned Jim, uh,
the the violence is coming from the left over. I
mean it's you look at the scales here and there's
all these obvious incidents that happened that that were perpetrated

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by the left, and you know there's one or two
on the right, and those are pointed to. As you see,
it's on both sides. It's not equally on both sides
at all. One of your one of your pregnancy centers
where women are choosing to save their baby or reverse abortions,

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was firebomb. Wasn't that right?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yes, firebomb?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Tell me about tell me about tell me about that
incident particularly.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, Well, we were receiving threats for probably a week
a year for I'm a lead up to the Doms case,
the Supreme Court case that eventually overturned ro versus Wade,
which happened in June of twenty twenty two. Well, on
the lead up, there's a lot of you know, this

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kind of rhetoric, this kind of communist rhetorics, and we're
you know, Republicans are going to rob women of their
of their of their rights, and we need to stand up.
And you know, they're starting using communists for saying that
that pregnancy centers are you know, part of this kind
of patriarchal white you know, uh, right wing extremist kind
of movement that wants to make women a permanent socio

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economic under so enslaved women. This is these are this
is the writer that they're using. Okay, then the Dobs
case was leaked illegally and we still don't know how.
It's the first and only time an entire opinion was
leaked to the public specifically designed to foment this kind
of of violence. So the in May. Shortly thereafter, in

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twenty twenty two, they fire bombed a pro identity in Madison, Wisconsin.
They sent out this is James Revenge. This is a
pro abortion anti forefront group known as Jane's Revenge, sent
out a communicate saying they did it and that we
have thirty days. Pregnancy centers have thirty days to shut
down or face a sem allure fate. And on day thirty,

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I kid you not, by the way, we had already
reported this to the FBI. We had already mentioned that
we were receiving death threats. We were already trying to
secure our perimeters. And uh, the FBI did nothing, okay,
And and so on day thirty, this is the Biden
Administration's FBI Day thirty, we were firebombs. This is two perpetrators.

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This is this is a we call it all on tape.
We have all the evidence. It was a It was
a classic hit. I mean, these were professionals, they knew
what they were doing. They were well funded. They came
and and and and and actually you know, lit up
the entire office half a million dollars of damage. Two
firefighters were injured and putting up the blaze. We still
don't have a resolution.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
This is that there were over six hundred attacks since
then on pro life pranting centers and churches, pro life churches.
Six hundred. We're talking about twenty twenty twenty x increase
in violence against Christian pro lifers in twenty twenty twenty
twenty four. And I predicted Darry Jeff that the violence
would shift, people would get sick and tired of it,

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and it would shift from violence to law fair. And
then they started and that's exactly what happened. They started
writing legislation against us, the pushes out of the public square.
We have Letitia James, the Transgeneral of New York, filing
a lawsuit against US for business fraud, of all things.
We have Rob Bomta out of California flying lawsuits against
US for the same thing, business fraud, specifically as it

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relates to chemical abortion, because we're telling women the truth
that chemical abortion sends one and ten women to the
emergency room, and they're saying, no, no, it's safe for
than tilt al Are you kidding me? Save for than
tild all the title, I'll send one to ten women
of the emergency room. Look, the thing of it is
the FBI during the Biden administration was complicit in domestic terrorism.
The FBI was complicit in domestic terrorism, and they were

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partnering with the SPLC directly, directly. I mean, how is
it possible if the SPLC could have that much control
over a federal law enforcement agency? You know this The
rabbit hole goes so deep here there, Jeff, I I
don't know if it's if it's if it's enough to
just prosecute spo C on on fraud charges. It's not

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just fraud, it's just this is domestic terrorism. And this
is what I've been saying for for years. Now, you
and I know that that we we have to we
have to take a step back and take a look
at the FBI, take a look at uh uh at
federal law enforcement and figure out, Okay, to what extent
is federal law enforcement necessary, because it's the according to

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according to the Tenth Amendment, is the purview of the
states to enforce the laws. Okay, Now, I believe that
federal law enforcement is necessary specifically it relates to the
international crime, national crime across his borders, and things like that.
But when when when you are when when the government
specifically Democrats have power over the dj and the FBI

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to such an extent that they begin to use it
as a weapon as a bludgeon against the politically disfavored
pro life people or anybody for that matter, specifically because
they happen to differ with the communist Democrats. We've got
a big problem on our hand. This is this is
this is consistent with Bolshevik revolutionary style politicians. Okay, nineteen

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twenties Russia.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
This is this.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
You know, after the revolution happened, the Russian politicians would
come out and they would basically, you know, attack Christianity
and wipe it out of the public square and make it,
you know, very difficult for people to live out their faith.
This is what the First Une is all about. It's
not about me, you know, being being a private Christian
at home. It's about me being able to walk out

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my faith and my beliefs in the public square, can
speak it and I can act on it. And that's
what Christians do. And by the way, when when John Adams,
one of the founding fathers, said, well, you know, the
Constitution was written for a moral and religious people and
is wholly unsuitable for any other, he meant Christianity.

Speaker 9 (27:57):
He did.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
This was not a bumper stick or coexist your kind
of religion he was talking about. He meant Christianity. It
didn't mean that Islam, he didn't mean Hinduism. He didn't
mean any of that. Because Christianity is the only religion
that respects the dignity of the individual, that respects the
fact that we are made in goadgment and that we
are endowed by our creator, not our government, with the

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unalienable right to life. And we stand up as Christians
and say, not only do we have the right to life,
but every single human being must be protected equally under law.
That is the purpose of a constitutional rule of law.
It makes us all equal.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, the communist and the human secularists believe that government
is God Jim and that's why the Bolsheviks and the
Russian politicians were directly going for Christians because they want
no God before them as those that know better who

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are elected and now are in power. The SPLC, though
back to the original thing. They were funding the KKK,
the Area Nation. They were funding the group in Charlottesville.
We found out donating to the group in Charlottesville that
started all the there were good people on both sides

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hoax with President Trump. So they were actually funding to
foment the hate that they said they were fighting. So
they were defrauding their donors who believed that they were
a righteous group that was actually going after hate when

(29:36):
they were actually funding hate.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh yeah, this is classic Ssiah. This is classic psychological operation.
They were funding hate and then denouncing the hate to
foment destabilization, cultural destabilization, so they.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Could get more so they could get more donations.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, of course, and ultimately they wanted to do Look,
my sense is, and I somebody might try to prove
me wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong. And that
is I think that the SPLC had the same kind
of agenda, has the same agenda as Antifa. Antifa is
basically a a Marxist UH, you know, ideal, ideologically driven

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UH group that essentially their goal is to destabilize and
dismantle the nation state system that is undergirded by the
Judeo Christian morality and the free market in order to
pave the way for a global communism. And in order
to do that, they have to foment all this kind
of social destabilization, make it and confuse people and divide people.
And that's exactly what they did. That's there, that was

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their entire mission was to was to foment division. And
and Rich Higgins was Donald Trump's first term UH irregular
warfare expert out of the Pentagon. Okay, rich Higgins said
that essentially they that they were intending to target anti
communists and anti capitalists as in orders to full menace

(31:01):
civil war. Well, that's exactly what's happening. I mean, so
the SPLC, I think you know, has has more to
answer for than just fraud. I think we're talking about
high crimes and misdemeanors. Uh level of activity, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
No doubt about it. So, Uh, you continue your work
in spite of the lawsuit that you mentioned filed by
Latitia James charging your organization, Compass Care, with fraud, with
business fraud. You're you're a totally nonprofit organization. You provide
all your services for free. So who are you defrauding?

Speaker 4 (31:38):
That's that's our question. Well, way say, how are we
defrauding anybody? When we charge no one for no one,
no one anything for our services, we get away millions
of dollars of free medical care. And so it is
she's charging us with crimes that do not exist in
the statute. Okay, they're just not that. There's no laws
that say that what we're doing is illegal. And yet

(31:59):
she's she's she's getting a hearing by the by by
the Supreme Court in New York as if as if
these are bona fide crimes, Well she's going to lose.
She slapped she slapped us. She wants to slap us
out of the public square. S L A p P.
It's an acronym. It means a strategic lawsuit against public participation.
She does not agree with our position, a pro life position,

(32:23):
and therefore she simply wants to abuse her power and
abuse her position and slap us out of the public square.
She wants to exhaust us with with this political uh
you know, malarkey is my one of my teachers used
to used to call it.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Uh you know.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
So we're going to continue to move forward. Things are
moving in our direction. We've got a couple of lawsuits now,
one in federal court and one in state Supreme court.
We did get an injunction against her from the federal court.
We're likely going to get an injunction against her. Hope
hopefully the judge will see it our way and say, yeah,
this is definitely a slap case and dismissed the whole

(32:58):
thing at a hand because it's just that ridiculous, this
is wasting taxpayer resources.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
From Coppascare, USA, Reverend Jim Harden, thank you and thank
you for the good work you continued to be to
do on behalf of women and babies in New York
and elsewhere around the country by speaking out. I appreciate
your time. Yeah, as I mentioned the last time I
talked to the Reverend Letitia James, charging anyone with fraud

(33:27):
is like Eric Swalwell telling you to believe old women.
Michael Letts from invest USA coming up after ten o'clock.
The news is next, Gary jeffin for Sloaney into another
hour on this Wednesday on the Scott's Loan Show. Gary
Jeff Walker filling in again, my pleasure, indeed, hopefully it's

(33:51):
yours seven outter WLW SO Saturday night at the Washington
Hilton Hotel. Of course, the White House correspond its dinner
was supposed to occur. They'd all gathered there in the
ballroom when a guy who took a train from Torrents, California,
to Chicago and then Washington, d C. Had checked into

(34:12):
that hotel on Thursday, and at a crucial point in
the evening he sprinted past the checkpoints towards the ballroom
like he was working out for a pro day for
NFL scouts. Thankfully, law enforcement subdued him before he could

(34:36):
do any damage in that action, though there was a
secret service agent. There was a law enforcement agent who
was shot. He was saved by his protective vest. And
as President Trump said, he's doing fine, it could have
been entirely different. Guest is the founder, president's CEO of

(35:02):
invest USA, and national grassroots nonprofit that's helping hundreds of
communities provide thousands of bulletproof vets for their police forces.
Throughout educational, public relations, sponsorship, fundraising, and as of June
three years ago, more than thirteen thousand, five hundred and
twenty concealable and active shooter vests had been distributed to

(35:24):
police officers throughout the United States. And these aren't the
normal kevlar because there are rounds of ammunition that can
penetrate the normal bulletproof vest. To talk about Saturday night,

(35:46):
the failures and the triumphs of law enforcement in that event,
and the continuing effort to keep those safe who keep
us safe, Michael Letts joins us. Good morning, Michael, how
are you.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Gary is always approved to be with you. We thank
you for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Now, just a little bit about your background that people
may not know. Your organization's efforts have helped police officers
from areas devastated by big events, natural disasters like Hurricane
Katrina and in nations like Nicaragua and Mexico. Your involvement

(36:30):
in this earned you a Congressional Gold Medal Award for
community service. That's pretty cool. I didn't realize that.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, you know, it's of course, I've been in law
enforcement for over thirty years, so also did work with
until this community and with our special ops, and you know,
you know, it's it's shame to have to go to
funerals and burying my colleagues when they could have been
saved by the best. And so we started this thirty

(36:59):
two years ago. At the time, you're the only thing
that the technology that was available was you had the
old Vietnam era flag jackets. Well, if you ever served
in combat and Vietnam, you realize you can't move. That
flag jacket is about all you can carry. So that
doesn't work very well in the streets of America. So

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they began to work on a widerweight vest called kevlar,
which is, you know, nothing but a fat piece of fabric.
It's just a very tightly woven fabric and you had
twenty seven to thirty two layers of it. It is
able to stop around I'd say about ten layers out.
It usually penetrates you from ten to twelve layers to

(37:40):
the bullet. But also the great thing about it is
it dissipates the force of the bullet itself. Trying to
keep that bullet from penetrating you. It's taking all that
energy that comes with it and dissipating it over a
broad area, so that doesn't do internal damage. Well, they
were successful. But the only thing that that that's our vest.
Do you see this that call a concealable best, the

(38:03):
one you wear under your shirt. It will only stop
a round from a pistol, sidearm, that's it. A long
range rifle or an AT forty seven shotgun, et cetera,
or even a knife will go right here. And so
that's what we've had for years. About ten years ago,
you know, the criminal element changed. We went from people

(38:23):
being ashamed of crime. That's why they put a pistol
down their pants, and then they pulled it out at
the convenience store at the last second and hit it
again when they left. Our country being invaded by cartels, terrorists,
human sex traffickers, or you go down the list those
people are proud of what they do. They don't use pistols.
We use AK forty seven automatic weapons, and so we

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decided we had to stop and create new technology to
be able to provide protection. It's called an active shooter vest.
Fast Titanian placed in them. Here's the sad part. When
we started to invest thirty two years ago with this
kevlar concealable best, fifty two percent of cops had no
protection at all. We got that down to nineteen percent.

(39:08):
Now we're trying to make sure every officer has an
active shooter vest so that they could be fully protected. Unfortunately, Geary,
I have to tell you only ten percent of officers
have these vests. Ninety percent of cops across the country
did not have this new technology. Fortunately, what you saw
Saturday evening with a secret Service he had one of ours.
He had an updated active shooter vest. Because he was

(39:31):
shot with a high powered rifle what would call long
range rifle. If he had not had that on, I
saw it would be hit. It would have gone right
through a concealable best and he'd be dead. It was
a dead on hit. But fortunately he is alive. I'll
go to show you how well they work Geary. Of course,
when he's hit, you know, we have to check you

(39:51):
out just to make sure there's no internal injuries that
were unaware of. So we transported him to the nearest
hospital out of do the xtray of the scans. And
what does he say the whole time? Can you hurry up?
I have a president to protect, get me back out
on the street. It worked that well, and of course
it goes to show you the value the true heroism

(40:12):
that we have in America's first responders today. But that
just every cop should have that opportunity to be able
to know that they can be protected and go home
safe with their families. It's a shame that we don't.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You know.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
The other tragic part about what happened Saturday night that
I want to make sure that our listeners remember is,
you know, Congress, especially in the Senate, is still not
pass the Homeland security budget. So these boys in secret
services are working for free. They haven't been paid in
two and a half months. And this is what I
was saying on a national show, just said yesterday, imagine

(40:49):
the stress of having to provide protection for your protect team.
In this sense, it's is the president and making sure
that you want to protect him, you want to be
nice if you could come home to your family. And
so you're in the middle of that engagement, you get
a call from the house from your spouse, your partner saying, oh,

(41:10):
by the way, power company called. If we don't pay
that billy by five o'clock, you're coming home to the
dark houses no more electricutting own the power. Why should
our law enforcement be divided mentally because of our Congress
that can't do their job to make sure they get paid.
These four people are doing all they can to provide
for themselves, their family, and to protect you and I

(41:30):
and their protectees. And we can't do any better than
making sure they get paid the salary that they've earned.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
A shame, Well, it's a shame, Michael. Is that Congress
the House of Representatives of the Senate. Their number one
job is to make sure that the government can operate,
to provide the funding for that government to provide for
the common defense, including law enforcement and security.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
And.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Also to promote the general welfare. That's what the Constitution says.
That government's jobs are there their first two jobs. Now,
it's nice if you want to investigate your political rivalry,
and they're really good at doing that. They're really good
at doing all kinds of things that aren't their first
priority according to constitutional definition. They ought to get back

(42:22):
to doing their job. That's one of the reasons congressional
approval among the public. You know, they talk about the
president's popularity ratings, Well, Congress is three times worse than
the president. And it's consistent now over the course of
the last couple of decades. Congressional approval among the public,

(42:46):
the people that are their bosses according to the Constitution,
is very, very low. And that's the biggest reason why
is that they're simply not doing their job. They're doing
politics of their job, and they're doing it again with this.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
And this I love about the president is when he
was only apprentice. You remember his favorite words, you're fired
taltel Congress, you're fired, candidate job.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well, you know what, in the house, everybody listening who votes,
is going to get a chance to do that here
here in the next six seven months, no, in November,
You'll have a chance to be the boss that you're
supposed to be of the person that you elect to
represented you, and you have a chance to say you're

(43:37):
fired if they're not doing their job, and that right
now they're not by and large, No, they're not. And
we've had five days of Monday morning quarterbacking. It's Wednesday now,
after the event Saturday night at the Washington Hilton. The
fact remains, Michael, and you want to talk about all

(43:59):
the failings in a hindsight of this. Uh, it was
a hotel that was open to the public. There was
there's one magnetrometer to check for weapons, one checkpoint. Now,
Secret Service was there and they did their job. And
the President's not unhappy with the job secret Service did

(44:20):
because they did subdue the suspect without anyone getting seriously injured.
So that's a bonus. But these kind of events have
to be designated as national security events, don't they When
the President and all those members of Congress and all

(44:43):
practically all of the cabinet is there assembled in one place.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Yeah, you know it's interesting, Gary, I did work with
the Secret Service. You remember this is the same hotel
the Ronald Reagan was shot in. To show you how
old I am, how far back to go, because here's
where I'm extended all across the country. Here in the
last few days, we are using the same protocol and

(45:09):
logistics for security operations that we did forty five years ago.
Now I can tell you this, Gary, from a businessman standpoint.
You don't change with the times and adapt a technology
and everything else continues to change. You know what happens
to your business, You go out of business. It's time

(45:30):
that the Secret Service update is protocol and it's logistical
support and we start doing things a little differently. We
got to take this more serious. It is concerned now.
I say that very quick. To add to the statement, Gary,
I'm not talking about the agents that we just discussed.
To take a bullet for the president. We jump up
on the on the dioceis and you know, standing there

(45:53):
waiting to detect that. But when if somebody's willing to
fire it, they did a fantastic job. But I'm talking
about the leadership. We can do better.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, how would you feel about something like the White
House correspondence dinner not being held in a hotel that's
open to the public. This guy checked in on Thursday.
He was able to check in with with all of
the components for his shotgun to be put together, and

(46:25):
these weapons that he had on him, And then again
It's not that the security was lax, but it wasn't
up to the task of the evening simply because simply
because of the location.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
You're you're exactly right. I mean, that's the President recognized
that one with first parts term, first part of being
in office, and he said, we need to have a
ball in here at the White House, so we've got
to secure here. You know, people get all up, said,
I can't believe you know he's doing any putting his
name on it, which he's not. Here's the issue you

(47:03):
need to understand, folks, it won't be completed for the
President Trump to ever use it. He wasn't looking out
for himself. He was looking out for future presidents to
make the job of providing protection detail much easier. And
you just saw that validated Saturday. We can't provide the
kind of security unity when you're not taking over the hotel.

(47:26):
People are still coming in, checking in and checking out
hotel that big, you got all kinds of interest to
and nex people getting off elevators. It becomes an extremely
difficult task to provide the adequate kind of security that
you're looking for. And that's why the President said, let's
start doing these events at a ballroom here at the
White House, and of course you know it'd be open

(47:48):
to the public. If the Correspondence Center wants to be
held there, great, whatever else needs to be Why should
he have to travel around all these hotels in the
DC or and now I understand you're out campaign in California,
that's a different matter. We'll have to make sure that
area is secure, and we can do that with updated
in stronger protocols. But it is a brilliant idea for

(48:09):
him to be able to say, let's do a ballroom
here at the White House that's secured to begin with,
and we can keep the security where it needs to be.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Michael, Let's as always a pleasure to talk to you,
my friend. And again, a lot of this is trial
and error, and people will say, well, we're just living
in a different world. The world has always been dangerous
and we've always needed to protect the president. If we

(48:39):
had the protocols in place that we have now, obviously
and the technology which was not available at the time,
Abraham Lincoln might have made it through his second term.
John F. Kennedy would have survived. So again it is
its trial and error, and we have a president who

(49:03):
sparks some pretty strong emotions in some people. It's back
to a mental illness called Trump derangement syndrome. And the
rhetoric on the left has been excessive and violent, and
it has urged people who maybe don't have all the
screws tightened up in their brains the levity to think

(49:25):
that they're doing the right thing. And Nicole Allen thought
he was doing something that was justifiable in attacking the
President and his administration on Saturday night. So I don't
know if it's any more dangerous, but we always have
to be what's the expression, the opposition only has to

(49:48):
be right once. We've got to be right all the time.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
You're exactly right. It only takes one all one opportunity
that we don't catch and tragedy occurs.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Michael Lets from invest USA. Keep up the good work,
my friend, and we will talk again soon. I am
certain of it.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Thank you, Grey God bless come most America. Do you
keep up the good work of making sure we continue
to tell the truth to the American people. Have a
great day.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I'll do my best. Doctor Gilda Carl the thirty second
therapists will have a little bit more time than that
as we talk about masculinity and fertility rates, how we
looking in America? Not good? Gary jeff In FORSLOONI on

(50:39):
seven hundred WLW. You know we have the FIFA World
Cup coming to the USA, USA, USA, USA. We have
the Olympics coming here in twenty twenty eight next month
in San Francisco. The twenty twenty six sperm Racing World Cup.

(51:03):
Of course, it's in San Francisco where men will battle
each other for one hundred thousand dollars for baby maker's supremacy.
I don't know how they measure this. I don't think
I want to know. But the fact of the matter
is I mentioned this because we have a real problem

(51:28):
with fertility in this country. Our replacement rate is under
way under two. You've got a man and a woman,
they don't have two babies, then the population obviously mathematically
declines to the point where a civilization could be completely ending,

(51:52):
the human race could be lost. To talk about that
and a few other things, a woman who was the
author of Real Men Don't Go Woke. She's been all
over TV talk news shows before. She used to right

(52:18):
column in the National Inquirer asked doctor Gilda she also
does the ask doctor Gildacolumn for match dot com. She
was a therapist and HBO's Emmy Award winner, Telling Nicholas.
She's a product spokesperson, a keynote speaker, professor Emerita of business,

(52:39):
and author of nineteen books, again, including the aforementioned Real
Men Don't Go Woke, Doctor Gilda. Carl, Welcome, doctor Gilda,
how are you?

Speaker 9 (52:51):
Good morning? Good to talk to you, especially about this
crazy topic.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
It is a crazy topic and I don't even know
how they measure the fastest.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (53:04):
Yeah, we didn't get any of that information in the article,
but it really is very interesting. Men don't have enough
to compete.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Against, I guess, And it's.

Speaker 9 (53:17):
All about once again performance. Men need this stress like
they need a hole in their head.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well but but performance, but performance and excellence is part
of masculinity, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Yeah, when it's not.

Speaker 9 (53:36):
So overemphasized that they can't perform at all.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
It's it's a bell shaped curve.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
You you work, work, work, work, work, work towards performance,
and then you you're depleted and after a while you wonder,
what is this performance all about?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Men have been so stressed.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
This is what I talked about and real men don't
go woke. Real men are not toxic as some people
would like us to think. There's nothing toxic about men
at all unless they get violent and difficult to deal
with and get into trouble. But the average guy who's

(54:26):
a real man knows how to stand up for himself
for himself, knows how to navigate the world without going
crazy and being angry and upsetting other people around you,
just you know.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
And this is what has happened today.

Speaker 9 (54:50):
Either we have people who are males who are off
the deep end, going over the precipice, and those are
the toxic ones, but not everybody else.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
And so the feminists, it seems to have decided that.

Speaker 9 (55:05):
All men are toxic just by dinder their being masculine,
and that has been very difficult for all.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Men to deal with.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
And so what we're finding is that the guys are
trying to uphold themselves in a way that they will
be attractive to women. We do know that men are
more interested in relationships than women are.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
Shocking, isn't that, because we've.

Speaker 9 (55:36):
All always heard that women are the relationship people, But
it's the men who want to keep their relationships going.
And so as a result of hearing so many negatives
from the women around, they will start getting silent, and
that is deadly.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Silence is deadly when all of.

Speaker 9 (55:59):
A sudden, you're holding all your emotions in like will
Smith did throughout his life, and then all of a sudden,
like a warm bottle of champagne, the cork pop and
there you are and you don't even know how angry
you have become and what reactions you are showing to
the world.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
So that is one aspect of what has happened to
men today.

Speaker 9 (56:27):
The woke men are just without a spine. And when
when the left says to me, oh, the word woke, well,
you're not even using woke the way it should be used.
I said, if you don't like the word woke, say this.
Real men don't go spineless. Real men don't go voiceless.

(56:47):
Because this is what is contributing to men's suicide rate.
And now we know that men are four times more
likely to commit suicide than women are. And with the
increase in testostero, with the thinning of the Y chromosome,
I mean, so many things are happening to males today.

(57:07):
They are trying to stay above ground.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
And not be pummeled by these women.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
Who are out to get them. Thinking every man is toxic. Well,
here we have a situation with sperm.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Now you can be a real men and not be toxic.
But you know what, we have bred this whole generation.
It seems like of beta males who don't want to
take their natural position of leadership. Men were created, I
believe by God to be natural leaders, leaders of families,

(57:46):
leaders of countries. Not that women can't lead. I'm just saying,
give you a prime example of a real toxic male.
Rosie o'don famously, when the news came out about Eric Swalwell,
she said, men suck.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
No Eric, Eric.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Eric Swalwell sucks, don't and doesn't pend that on the
on me or any other you know guy with the
the man the male chromosomes.

Speaker 9 (58:21):
I mean, yeah, but broth the O'Donnell. Oh sleep, Rosie
O'Donnell isn't really a woman. He's gay and she's not
even interested in men in general. No, so here is
her rationale for why she's.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Not interested in men. And I don't think there are
too many men who are interested in her.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah, it's not it's not really a loss to the
male of the species, Doctor Kilder, No, I think not.

Speaker 11 (58:51):
But to add on, Okay, over there in lane one,
look at that spare running.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
It seems to be overcoming the other woman lane.

Speaker 11 (59:00):
Oh but wait wait wait the one from behind lane seven.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
Oh look at that guy.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
Go go go.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
This is what's going on.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
This is what we have to look forward to, more
stress to win a game.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
And what are we going to see soon.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
On their postings online on the dating sites, are they
going to be bragging that my sperm is however they
measure this.

Speaker 11 (59:32):
My sperm is stronger and one the World Cup of
sperm racing, I mean as opposed to other sperms.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
So this makes one more interesting perhaps to the opposite set.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
Is that where we have come.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
My estimation of being a real man is not only
competing to win, but understanding how to lose.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Yes, and oh that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And you you learn to grab onto your masculinity when
you face loss, because when you face loss, it motivates you,
or it should motivate you to do better the next time.
Not cause stress, but to actually be better and to
do better. That's part of being a real man is

(01:00:25):
accepting loss and learning from.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
It and learning from it, learning from it. That's it exactly,
and I think a lot of people have to learn that,
not only women men, but women as well. You learn
more for having lost.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
I mean, if you, if you process this correctly, you.

Speaker 9 (01:00:45):
You win more for having lost then from having one.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Because then you will be.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
Very excited and you will have your head in the clouds,
and you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Probably will have to continue.

Speaker 9 (01:01:02):
Working very hard toward another win, and the next win
and the next well, because every mountain needs to be
climbed again and again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Don't you agree that a lot of this started twenty
years ago when they started giving out participation trophies because
they didn't want anyone to feel bad about them spells
because they lost, right, I mean, you lose, you lose,
and you build on that loss to again excel to

(01:01:34):
be better.

Speaker 9 (01:01:36):
Yeah, we have molly coddled our young people, men and women.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
So if they don't win a race, they go into
a tantrum.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
And we've seen a couple of sports people do this
throughout the years. But this is no way to behave
you walk off with pride, whether you've won or lost,
you gotten to that that whole race, that unto itself,
is something that should be accepted and appreciated. But if

(01:02:12):
you only are at that race to win, that's where
the performance can be debilitating to you. The need to perform,
always perform, perform, you don't even know who you are
after a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Well, at the World Cup in San Francisco next month,
you know, maybe the losers will be able to build
on that and say, you know what, I need to
train my sperm to be faster swimmers.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
Oh my goodness, I can't wait to hear how they're
going to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Real men don't go woke, and I do believe that
real men can be strong, and you say they can
be strong through their vulnerability as well, right, doctor Gilda.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Absolutely, you just don't have to be the mighty mouse.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
You can show your emotions, your feelings and your fears
because ultimately, and trust me, I'm a woman who wrote
this book and this is coming straight not from Tarzan,
but from Jane. When we see men who are vulnerable,
who can say, you know, I feel bad about that.

(01:03:25):
I just I'm depressed about this and this. That shows
your vulnerability, and that shows that they are human beings,
that they're not in some in armor that nobody can penetrate.
Women find that most attractive. And I said that to

(01:03:46):
a fighter pilot one day. I said, you know, I
find you most attractive when you're most vulnerable, and he
thought I was cursing him.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
He never heard such a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:03:57):
He thought it has to be hurry, hurry, go, go,
go perform, when when he had never heard a woman say,
I love your.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Vulnerability because you're more human and touchable. So men have
to understand what it is that women want, and women have.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
To get off their behind and stop criticizing men because
the reaction is now silence, and silence is what kills people.
You can't hold anything continuously inside your body and think
that you're not going to be unhealthy, because in the end,

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it will affect your health, it will affect your mood,
it will.

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
Affect how you win every other race.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
That you're in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Doctor Gilda, Carl, thank you so much for your time
this morning, and good luck with real men. Don't go work.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
It's my pleasure. Thanks so much for having me here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
All right, got some big Supreme Court decisions coming down
to tails in minutes in to another hour of The
Scott's Loan Show on this Wednesday, April twenty ninth, closing
in on the end of the month. Boy in some
huge decisions coming out of the United States Supreme Court

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this morning. Number one was they struck down the second
majority black congressional district in Louisiana, which was as Samuel
Alito I believe called it, an unconstitutional jerryman do. That
was by a six to three And what basically it did.

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This thing wound from Shreveport to Alexandria to Lafayette, about
two hundred miles down the state of Louisiana, based only
specifically along racial lines, which is you know, the Supreme
Court decided that is not equitable, that is not right,

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and it needs to go. As there are redistricting fights
all over the country now of people just trying to
gerrymander Republican against Democrat. And we saw what happened in
Virginia where that's still not a settled deal because it

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has to go through the courts. The vote that happened
just last week in Virginia that would have cut out
all but one of the Republican leaning districts in the
entire state. So you know, the House of Representatives obviously
is a very very slim Republican lead going into the

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twenty twenty six midterms, which usually favor the party that's
not power in the White House traditionally. The other big
decision that came down, and it relates directly to a
guest we had on earlier today, Reverend Jim Harden from
Compass Care. There's an organization in New Jersey called First
Choice Women's Centers care Centers, and they are also an

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anti abortion or a pro life faith based organization that
the Attorney General in New Jersey was suing to get
the donors' names of that organization, a list of the

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and First Choice said this violates. This violates the First Amendment,
and they will nine zero on that, and the First
Choice can now sue in federal court in New Jersey
to keep that client and donor list out of the

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hands of the Attorney General. I want to know the
names of people who are supporting life. Give it to
me now. We have planned on having former Congressman Bob
Livingston on the air, and we still may before the
half hour is up. He has served in Louisiana from

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nineteen seventy seven to nineteen ninety nine, who's on the
House Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee the last four
years he served, and has a book out now, a
memoir about law Fair called The Rainbow Chaser. And the
interesting thing about this anti Lawfair memoir is that Bob

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Livingston famously was a supporter of the impeachment of Bill
Clinton when he was in Congress, and I just dying
to ask him about.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
They opened up a Pandora's box with the impeachment of
Bill Clinton, Kenneth Starr and all that those of us
that remember and live through that as it extends to
President Trump did in his first term, and the Democrats
are promising vowing to do it if they get control

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of Congress in November. So we'll we'll attempt to get
a hold of mister Livingston. In the meantime, we'll take
a quick break and come back. Your phone calls always welcome.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one eight hundred
D big one. Any comments at all on the Supreme
Court decisions and the second majority black congressional district being

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struck down in Louisiana could portend well for Republicans in
that state when it comes to the overall count in
the House and this first choice decision, this Women Center
in New Jersey is helping women keep their babies and

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the chance to keep their donors private on First Amendment grounds,
and them being able to sue the State of New
Jersey not in state court but in federal court, which
could make a huge difference. Gary Jeffen for Slowly Back
after your break phone calls in more on seven hundred WLW.
Notice when you're driving a car somewhere and you've got

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exacting directions of where you're going to turn next, and
that turn just doesn't appear and you realize you're on
the wrong road. It happens with talk shows too. Sometimes.
We had former Congressman Bob Livingston scheduled to appear and
apparently there were wires crossed somewhere. But the person who

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helped us connect with the original interview is here, and
she just got back from Washington, DC, and I think
she's delightful to talk to. So I figured why not
spend a few minutes with my friend Sandy Fraser. Good morning, Sandy,
how are you.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Well? I'm doing great?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
This is an unexpected pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Well for me too. I had the whole show planned out,
I thought, but no, this is interesting. You just got
back from Washington, and I ask you if you were
at the WHCD, but you said you left before the
dinner happened, so you narrowly escaped with your life. Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Well, yeah, I'm saying that and Jeff, but you know,
being in Washington was really an experience, you know, because
you hear all the time from President Trump how they've
cleaned it up, which I agree. I mean, it's really
beautiful now. And I went to Union Station. It was
really spotless clean. They had a lot of National Guard

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and you know, I just walked up to all the
National Guard soldiers, guardsmen, I guess you call them, and
you know, thank them for their service because I was
in a hotel and got in a little bit of
a skirmish with a group of I guess they were
young people, but they were fighting. And boy, those National

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Guard they're right on top of it. Fantastic. I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, you're not going to alter everybody's personal behavior, but
you can have the resources available to make sure if
something like that happens, it doesn't get way out of hand.
And that was happening on a regular before President Trump
brought the National Guard into Washington, d C. And helped
the DC Metro Police kind of solve their crime problem.

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Carjackings and murder was just running rampant in our nation's
capital before this surge.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Yeah, I was surprised because I live in Charleston, South Carolina,
and now this is Civil War territory, and the black
whites they get along great. You know. I mean, I'm
one of the few people that ride.

Speaker 12 (01:13:05):
The bus, so it's like, you know, we all sit
on the bus together, we hang out at the bus
station and and things like that, and you know, I
feel very safe here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
And I'm a New Yorker, so you know, I've been
back to New York every three months for ever since
I moved to Charleston. And I love New York City,
but I just can't live under a communist so I
had to. Yeah, I tail it out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Understandable. But what you're saying, though, is not just in
places like Charleston, South Carolina. It's all over the country.
And I have made this case over and over by
my own observation, Sandy is Yeah, that the so called
racial divide we always hear about in this country is

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mostly an invention of media, and it's made up. It
is being perpetrated and being out there mostly to engender
the fact that it exists at all. I mean, it
seems like it's purposely being stoked and being presented that way.

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So people were perceived in a certain way, and you know,
and perception becomes reality. But the reality is I also
bartend and I see people who have all kinds of
different skin colors and hair colors and everything else in
my bar and people routinely generally get along.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Well we do in Charleston. But when I was in Washington,
I was taking a list because I had to go
to a big event over at the French Embassy and
it was a big book event and a lot of
dignitaries and they even had secret service there and everything.
But I got in a list and a man, the

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man that was driving me, the driver, he actually was
playing a radio station.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
You'll appreciate this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
And I'm not going to say who the host is,
even though I know no because I've been working in
radio for over twenty years. But these people on the
radio show were using foul language and they were pretending
like Barack Obama was still their president. And it was
very unnerving because the guy wouldn't talk to me, and

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every restaurant I went into they asked me for a
photo ID in order to just order dinner, and also.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
What you had to have a photo ID to order dinner?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
To order dinner? I swear to god, I mean I
could not believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I said, you want to I thought they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Were kidding, you know, like we're going to card you.
I said, oh, come on, I'm old enough to be
your mom. They said, oh no, we have to have
a phone, do I be? And a credit card up
front because that's how many people they have walking out
on the bills. I guess. And you know, and I
saw a lot of things with my own eyes that
I just couldn't believe. It felt like a whole different world.

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But I am proud of the President and the clean
up effort and the fact that you know, the King
was there yesterday, the King and Queen, and we can
be proud they don't have those those awful what do
you call it? Those meridian dividers and things like that.

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
It was horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
And I was on Capitol Hill too, you know, so
I mean I saw everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Well, the guest we had hoped to have, Bob Livingstone,
is now after being a congressman serving and for twenty
two years. He has his book called The Rainbow Chaser.
I don't know why I'm plugging it since he dissed us,
but anyway, he's also a lobbyist, and I tend to
think that part of the problem with our government being

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dysfunctional is that the voice of the lobbyist is heard
louder than the voice of the voter, probably because we
don't speak up the way we ought to for our
elected representatives, to our elected representatives and talk to them directly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Well, we can think you can thank Elon Musk now
because with X we have a wonderful platform, you know,
where we can speak out and our voices are heard
and no censorship and the whole thing. I'll tell you,
I love X and it's terrific. I did get get
to meet Bob when I was in Washington. It was

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terrific meeting him. He is an old world kind of politician,
you know, with a lot of charisma and charm and everything.
And I really liked him, and he was signing books
and everything, and he was very gracious and had us
at the top of the Capitol View Building, which if
you've ever been there, it is amazing. You can see

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three hundred and sixty degree view of everything. And plus
I did get to see Julia Child's kitchen. Really the
highlight of my group.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
I loved Julia and Anthony Bourdaine, you know they were
Anthony loved Julia, so I always wanted to see her kitchen.
I thought it was at the Smithsonian, but it was
at the American Museum Natural History.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Yeah, And you know, and then I got to see
all the uh, the history of America and everything, and
it was just so wonderful. And my friend Brigitte Gabrielle,
I'm sure you know of her, he got me a
VIP tour of Capital, the Capitol, Capitol Hill and everything.

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Next time I go, I'm getting into the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Very nice. Well, I'm sure you'll need your photo ID
for that too. Isn't it amazing? You have to have
a photo ID to get served in a restaurant in Washington,
D C. And yet there are a whole slew of
states and Democrats who don't require you to have one
to vote. Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
And you know I hear that the Democrats also stood
up for the King yesterday, President Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
You said at the dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Last night, he said, well, you did something I could
never do. I got the Dems to stand up, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
An amazing that the people who have no King's rallies
are so falling all over themselves to see a king
in person.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Another thing Sandy Fraser does is music. You sing, and
you're a musician. And you told me just before we
went on the air, Sandy, that you have a new
song of about all things Nikolay Tesla.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Nikola Tesla is a hero of mine because I really
follow Elon and I think Elon learned very young all
about Nikola Tesla and the fact that he didn't get
credit for so many things that he did. You know
when he when he died, he was at the New
Yorker hotel. And I went to the New Yorker last

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year several times to sort of investigate because I was
writing this song about Tesla. It's called Wizard and you
can see it on all platforms. You can listen to
it on all platforms all over the internet, Sandy Frasier
dot com. But I swear it was so it was
so enlightening and such a great experience being at the

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New Yorker, so I could write the song and understand.
Now I'm reading his autobiography, which is terrific his own words,
and I love Tesla. He was a he was a character,
you know, somebody to really get to know in our history.
And the fact that he died at the New Yorker,

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you know, and here's a fun little thing. When he died,
there were he left all these trunks behind and the
guy that ended up opening them, of course the FBI
tip them, but the guy that opened them is the
John Trump, which is you know, President Trump's uncle went

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to MIT and he got to open Tesla's trucks and
learned of all his secrets.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Very cool, Sandy Fraser, Thank you so much. Sandy Fraser
dot com. Listen to our song about Tesla called Wizard
and Wizards. Thank you for filling this space as I
turn onto another highway after news.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
You're one of the great You're one of the greats
and radio and I love the station. Been working with
you guys for years.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Thanks Sandy, appreciate it. Have a great day. Cynthia Hughes
on Law Law Fair and the Department of Justice or
the Department of injustice. You may view it right after news.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Now you want, I want to help.

Speaker 8 (01:22:07):
You, throwing out a life, preserve it for you. You're
dying over there. Really, I'm not dying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
I'm not dying. I did fine.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
You take it for freaking vocals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
I know I gave Andy. I gave the phone numbers
out once once. That's not begging, that's just saying, hey,
you want to call, call and you did so so
thank you so much. What's on your mind, Andrew?

Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
No, I called because I want them to help you.
But I don't want to have a discussion with you.
I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
I think you kind of just blew over it.

Speaker 13 (01:22:37):
At the beginning of the show, with the sores Pee
situation at the University of Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
Okay, the kid gambled. You see's tide of a floor
for every game they played last year. The kids should
never be able to play college.

Speaker 13 (01:22:51):
Football and or professional football.

Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
For the remainder of his life. All you gotta do
is look at the record books and look at Pete Rose.
It's a safe thing. College players now prosy pros get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
There's there's no never play no, no, there's no there's
no death penalty in football. It was just in baseball.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
Andy, it's gonna be he will never play again, never played.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
I don't. I never thought he was really all that good,
So I'm not. He's no Pete Rose. Let's let's put
it that way.

Speaker 8 (01:23:19):
You know what he was for million dollars good for
Texas Tech. That's how good he was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Well that that says a lot about Texas text judgment,
and it says as much about UC's judgment and their
lack of supervision, lack of what they used to call
institutional control at that university. And I think heads should
roll at you. See, listen to you.

Speaker 8 (01:23:39):
You probably took a stage, You got some hanging downs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
But I'm afraid that satafil is gonna.

Speaker 11 (01:23:43):
Lose his job over this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
That's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure Sadderfield should have kept
his job anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
Andy, I like the man.

Speaker 13 (01:23:51):
He's a good guy, all right, but he may have
been a little over his head there. And you see,
But look, it's fart for me to say this. I
don't want to say it, but you know, honestly, to bet,
to allow kiss, to bet like that, this this.

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
Betting figures out of control.

Speaker 13 (01:24:05):
And you know, honestly, it's he's not the only one, right,
He's not the only one, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Of course he's not. But don't you think that this
went on before, before there was all this legalized gambling,
before there was so much regulation. In fact, I think
it went on unchecked more then than it does now,
because well, how they do it, Darren.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
If that was a street corner guy, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
And there was no and there was no regulation. There
was no regulation unless somebody spilled the beans on you.
Now it's scrutinized all over the place. It's there's an
electronic trail.

Speaker 8 (01:24:41):
Right, And you know what, I feel bad for the
kids because he's got a disease. It is a disease. Okay,
betting on both his.

Speaker 13 (01:24:47):
Strikes at baseball games, you gotta be having a freaking mine.

Speaker 7 (01:24:50):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:24:51):
So money does create evil.

Speaker 13 (01:24:52):
It does because if he didn't make the big money
in nil, he wouldn't have the money to gamble.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Oh, there's no question about that either.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I don't normally agree. I don't normally agree with you
this much. So it's it's kind of disturbing to me. Personally.

Speaker 8 (01:25:09):
I don't want to distub you anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
You're playing for ball.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Thank you. Oh one of the Saturday people are here.
Who's now a Wednesday people? Dave from Harrison, How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Hey, Garret?

Speaker 10 (01:25:22):
Jeff, I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
And yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
I'm fine. I'm just I'm just fine. I'm playing out
the string here for the next three and a half minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
Well, if anybody can do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
It, well, do you have anything to offer, Dave?

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Well, I was just wanting you know, sometimes you get
all caught up and all the catching up and all
that stuff. But when was the last time you were
a kid again?

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Like, uh, I don't know how to stare in contest
with your.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Cat that happens on almost a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
What was the last time you stuck your head out
the car window and mood when you saw a cow?

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
I don't remember ever doing that when I was a
kid or an adult.

Speaker 9 (01:26:13):
Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
One of the least time you took a run and
jump over a big puddle.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I'm afraid I'd sprain my ankle at this point or
break a hip. I can't afford to do either.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Here's a famous quote, huh and see if you guess
who said Okay, who who is the more foolish, the
full or the fool who follows him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
That's something I will ponder until Saturday morning and we'll
follow up then, Dave, thank you. That's day from Harrison
New calls and tells bad dad jokes on my Saturday
morning show, usually right after six o'clock news. Something for
you to look forward to. Here's another one of those
Saturday people. He's not usually on the air. He usually

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shows up at the bar after the after the show
on Saturday, the after the show show. This is Al
and Cleeves.

Speaker 7 (01:27:09):
Hello, Al, good morning, mister Walker. Is great to be
on the air with you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Yeah, this is like a first time. Have we ever
been on the air together before? Al, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:27:19):
Remember, maybe once or twice before, but it's been a while.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:27:25):
I survived. I was in Virginia for three days this
past week.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Congratulations. How was your trip?

Speaker 7 (01:27:33):
Fantastic? A lot of trains. I'll explain everything to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
When I see you. Okay, all right, yeah, we have.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
I have I have.

Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
I have a bunch of hats in the trunk of
my car. There is one I could not wear while
I was in Virginia. I didn't want to take the chance.
But I did pick up another hat and I'll show
that to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Did you get any did you get any hats for me?
Because I have a special I have a special size head.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
Yes, I've noticed that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
All right, I'll go back to life in the ten
can well do?

Speaker 7 (01:28:06):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
We'll see you around the house. Oh, you know, I'll
take this call, Dave. Doctor Dennis in Annapolis, Maryland.

Speaker 14 (01:28:13):
Good morning, Good morning, just the quickie here. Yeah, you
talked about zombies, phone zombies, well, zombies in general. As
far as the zombie apocalypse, the Liberals have nothing to
worry about because they have no brains for the zombies
to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Well, that's good, it's an excellent point. That's a great
way into the show. Dennis. It's good to hear from you. Okay,
all I got, That's all we need. I appreciate. I've
only got thirty seconds left to kill now. Red's roundup
on the way, and Willie will be back, and God willing,
I'll be back on Friday in for Sloane again. And

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you know, I'm just praying for more of this free
time with you, to spend time with you, the American listener,
and now the great American Afternoon seven hundred W l
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