Sterling 2/6/26

It's Super Bowl Weekend. One of the biggest gambling events of the year. Sterling finds out what bets are the hottest plays from ESPN's Doug Perdum. When will President Trump apologize for the post that depicted President Obama as an ape? Is a comet heaing towards Earth? That's among the questions Sterling has for Mike D. Wall of spacedotcom.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, the weekend's here. It's a big weekend. It's a
super weekend. I can say it because we carry the
Super Bowl on the big one seven hundred double Wela
back with ESPN chalks David, bring the paying Purdom with
Sterling here.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you? How's everything? How geeked up are you?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I mean, is there a bigger time than now when
it comes to the business of betting and gambling and sports.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well, the Super Bowl attracts more betting interest, number of
bets and mount wager than any other single game in
the US. So from that standpoint, it's certainly busy. Now,
I would say the NCAA tournament that probably rivals it.
And when you get so many more games with the

(00:42):
NCAA tournament, it ultimately gets more money wager. When you're
talking about one single event, it's the Super Bowl by far.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Of all the money that is spent.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
How much of it is just you know, flat out
the Seahawks are gonna win, or you know they're gonna lose,
or whatever else it happens to go. Maybe they're you know,
they're for the Patriots against the Patriots. I mean, is
that where the bulk of the money is or is
it prop bets? Where does the big bucks end up
playing out across the board.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's about fifty to fifty between prop bets and your
standard game bets. Standard I think I'm including your points spread,
your outright winner money line, and.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Probably the over under tootal.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
So if you put those three things in there, it
probably equals about the same amount of all the player props.
And I think DraftKings told us that they add over
a fifteen hundred different markets that you could wager on
in the Super Bowl, So lots of different.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Options, fifteen hundred markets. So there's somebody who is completely
living in the dark and unaware what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
So you can bet on anything from the coin flip
that decides the opening kickoff, all the way to the
over under, on the length of the national anthem, the
rendition of the national anthem, and then you go post
game all the way to what color of the gatorade
is dumped on the winning coach. So you can bet

(02:08):
throughout you know, players cross sports. You can bet on,
you know, whether Lebron James will score more points than
the Patriots in the game or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
But the waste wager in the different types of wagers
are are counts.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
David bring the pain Purtams from a ESPN chalk with
Sterling on the big one talking about Super Bowl fifty
or sixty. Excuse me, it's the alax. It's here in
the Roman numerals. I remember my school times. As you
look at this, I mean you kind of go New
England northeast, I mean the Seattle Northwest. Is there one
side of the country or the other that's bringing more

(02:47):
money at this point? I mean, can we tell or
is it just about smart betting and not about emotion?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, there is always going to be some Homer emotion.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I would think that the East Coast is more slanted
to the Patriots in your West coast and Midwest is
probably more on the Seahawks. How overall, it's almost two
to one in favor of the Seahawks. Twice as much
money has been wagered on them that has been wagered
on the Patriots, So.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
The Seahawks are getting a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
However, the point spread is kind of holding steady at
four and a half, so some people might think there's
something up with that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
What could be up with that?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
In the circumstance where it ends up sort of staying
where it is. I've heard other people say that what
does that mean?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
So it's a good question. So what that means is
the overall amount of money that's been wagered.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
But so far, even though it's super lopsided on the Seahawks,
it hasn't had those influential betters come in, and sportsbooks
will want to end up rooting on the same side
as the professional betters. So you may see a professional
better come in and put their bets down and maybe

(03:59):
they take the Seahawks, and this later in the week,
and then that line all of a sudden jumps, or
even if they may take the Patriots, and we discussed
you know, twice as much money on the Seahawks once
the professional gamblers take a position, even though the books
have more money on Seattle. If the professionals were to
take the Patriots, then you might see that line moved

(04:21):
towards a new England. Maybe a four and a half
goes down to four.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And now you say the professional betters, then there's the
sort of I don't know, call it celebrity better kind
of scenario, although I mean, is he a professional Mattress
mac We've talked about often on David Perdin from ESPN
Chalk by the way, with Sterling on the Big One.
That's a guy in Texas. I think he's in the
Houston area, maybe Dallas area, I don't know which. And
he regularly although the last year or two as seemed

(04:46):
kind of quiet when it comes to like big bets
and Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, he has a good reason for not being not
betting last Super Bowl. He had art surgery and that's recovering.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, that's a good reason to stay away.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, that's a good reason. You don't need the extra
pressure coming out of heart surgery. He was recovering.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
For people that don't know Mattress macat's name is Jim Macklevale.
He has a furniture store in Houston. He's kind of
a beloved community figure. He's opening up his store to
people when they've had storms down there and all kinds
of things. And what he does is he plays his
big bets and then Rod runs a promotion free giveaway

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for furniture to kind of mitigate his risk on this bet.
So this year he placed a two million dollar bet
on the winner of the AFC, winning the Super Bowl,
So that's the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
So he's got two million on the Patriots at two
to one.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Anybody that goes in and buys three to four thousand
dollars worth of furniture at his furniture store, they would
get a complete refund. If the Patriots win, mattress Mac
would win his bet right win four million dollars. Anybody
that had bought that bought his furniture would get their
money back.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Now he.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Gets all to keep all that money.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
So with that extra money that maybe that promote, the
promotion generated, he kind of mitigates his risk on his bet.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Now, I wonder does he buy insurance to go along
with that. A lot of retailers, corporations, TV radio stations,
et cetera. When they do promos of some type or another,
they'll have some way to sort of cushion themselves with
someone to come in and actuary of some sort kind
of figures out what's reasonable. Does he buy that or
is it literally just the actual wager?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Do we know?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
So he used to he started doing it with insurance.
He would hedge his hedge his promotion with insurance. But
he started to figure out that the betting market offered
him a better opportunity to kind of mitigate.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
That risk, so he started doing this. This is his
fourth or fifth year to bet on this like this
and he's had some success.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
David Purdain, by the way, from Espanshalk with Sterling on
the beg One talking about the Super Bowl sixty he
see Hawks Patriots getting on just hours away. Technically, of
all the games in all the years, and you've covered
this for a while, has there been a continual steady
growth in the amounts of money's wagered. I'm guessing the
legality of this and making it more accessible has helped

(07:16):
it along. But can we see you know, just historically
people being more engaged, less engaged or otherwise, or is
it sort of hard to compare now because the dominoes
have fallen from one market to another.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, it's difficult if you go back and past or
looking for some kind of comparison because pre twenty eighteen,
only Nevada had sports betting right, so you could see
their numbers, But everybody else that was bet and was
using a local bookmaker or an offshore sports book he
didn't have good visibility about how much is bet But

(07:48):
if we look at the legal market, which first started
in twenty eighteen and has spread to thirty nine states
in the district of Columbia.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here, it has steadily grown each year after year after year.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
In fact, twenty twenty five was the most heavily bet
here ever for New York sports books in New York
is now the largest betting market in the US.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
So it has continued to grow.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Talking to Dave Partum from ESPN Chalk Sterling on the
Big One about Super Bowl sixty, so we look at
this and the number of prop bets, and I did
a little bit of research before the show. I know
it may be hard for you to believe, David, but
I do. It's not just leaning on you, although I
like to get to your head because you study this
every which way and more. But the sheer number of

(08:32):
prop bets has expanded to such a point now, I
mean from the rushing side of the football that a
defense you mentioned, gatorade or whatever power raid, whatever it
is that they use at any given point in time,
any of these things sort of surprise you where you
kind of like man, stupid bets, fun bets. I mean,
where do you is your head on this? Or can
you I guess from being above the Fray is the

(08:55):
reporter on this to just sort of look at because
you always talk about not being like a good better
but you cover it.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I like to say that I write about gambling, but
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Good at gambling, which is completely true, but I do
talk to people who are good at it.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I would say the.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Kind of the strangest thing and one of the trendy
bets this year, there's things called mention markets. These are
on the prediction markets that are kind of trading sports
picks like stocks and Waggy might have heard of a
site called Calci and what they are offering are these
mention markets. And it's on NFL announcers and you're able

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to trade on what terms or what phrases the announcers
of the Super Bowl will say. For example, tush push
is one of the terms that people are trading on,
and it's like, I believe it's forty percent that he's
not gonna say it, or sixty percent that he is.
And you're if you think that the probability of Mike

(09:52):
Tariko or Chris Collinsworth, who will be calling the Super Bowl,
will say tush push is greater than sixty percent, well,
and you're going to buy the yes, and if you
think it's less, then you're gonna buy the no. So
those are the funny things they're doing. And you wouldn't
believe how much money is wagered on these things. In
fact that in the AFC and NFC championship games, about

(10:14):
three point five million dollars were ragered on what announcers
would say during those games.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Now, I'm just curious, not that I would. I mean,
I've had people say, hey, well you say this or
that during the show, please during this time, my wife's
going to be in the car, can you mention this
or that or whatever else? But as an announcer in
this and Collin's worth, of course used to work here
at the Benguin, and you still, you know, a scene
here or there once in a while. And of course
he's been doing the NFL stuff forever in a day

(10:41):
be going back before obviously wearing those Bengal stripes. But
in a situation like somebody in the booth like that,
how do they prevent them from getting in on that?
And I'm not saying anybody would do anything the farious
I'm just I probably want to get in on the action.
I'm not trying to get in trouble, but I'm saying,
come on, you.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Know now, I have not heard of any of the
NFL announcers mentioning it using it, but in there's earnings
calls and if people that watch the Grammys on Sunday,
Trevor Noah, the host, he got to come in from
commercial break and he said, potato and he looked on
his phone. Anybody on polymarket or CAUSI these prediction markets.

(11:24):
You just won because I said potato, So it can
happen exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I reached out. I did a story on it this week,
and I reached out to all the.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Networks, including ESPN, and I was trying to say, hey,
are you guys aware of this? Do you have any
advice for the announcers, any protocols in place? And nobody
wanted to talk about it at all, my guests. Doesn't
surprise me because it puts these announcers in kind of
a tough spot.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Knowledge yea, if they acknowledge oh.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, I heard about all those, then people are gonna
be kind of suspicious.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Did you change your call? Did you manipulate your performance,
so you could work these terms in and you know
it's part of the game.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, I mean it is. I mean it's not like
the league's gonna get involved in. What do they care.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's not affecting the outcome. It's just language used, words dropped.
I mean, I'd like to get in on this somehow, don't.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I just don't. It's very weird.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
David bring the pain Perdam for ESPN Chalk with Sterling
on the Big One talking about Super Bowl sixty Patriots
and Seahawks. I want to switch to something else and
we'll circle back if we can't, and no time is short,
but I have to ask because you can almost smell
freshly cut grass, even though we had new snow in
the last hours in days here and the cold is

(12:39):
back and not going anywhere anytime soon. But they'll be
in the desert and then they'll be in Florida soon
getting tuned up for spring training and opening day. Just
really what eight weeks away, give or take word is
about the Cleveland Guardians. And there was a piece that
you had talked about this before too, and I saw
you on socials about it, talking about a manual class.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I believe is how you pronounced the name.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
He got into a bit of issue with some weird
alterations of pitches and wagering or something. Can you break
that down and what that means for the game and
for him particularly? This is a sad story.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, Emanuel Clisse, long time Guardians reliever, great pitcher, yeah,
really dominant closer. Last summer got put on a nondisciplinary
league by Major League Baseball because of some suspicious betting
that was detected. And it wasn't detected on the game
outcome or anything like that. It was on individual pitches.

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Sportsbooks were offering bets on will a certain pitch be
a ball or a strike, or will a certain pitch
be faster or slower than ninety three miles an hour,
And they started detecting some unusual betting interests like spikes
and betting on Clissee to throw balls. And it eventually
got indicted by the FEDS, and they first revealed that

(13:59):
they there were nine games that they thought had some
suspicious pitches involving Clisse. Well, just yesterday there was a
legal document filed and according to that legal document, the
government is now accusing Clise of throwing suspicious pitches in
forty eight games. And that's over twenty six months, so
about two and a half years. But forty eight games.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Gosh, that just seemed like a whole bunch more than nine.
It was kind of alarming.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Because the business of the game in Major League Baseball
can certainly show some type of retribution. Does that become
a federal crime in a situation like that, or how
does that play out in a court situation? Since you
were talking about court papers by out it's serious.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Oh yeah, so wire fraud and sports bribery both are
federal statutes that are charge is involved here in these
cases such as this, and bribery comes involved. The allegation
is that Clisse was working with a couple of betters
and giving them information I might throw a ball to

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start this inning, you know, bet on that and so forth,
And that's what the allegation, the alleged scheme was. It
roped in another pitcher to Luis Ortiz, he is part
of the case. To a former Guardian pitcher, he's facing
similar allegations. Although it's much fewer games.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
For Louise, not good for the game.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
You want to keep that clean for sure, deb bring
the paint purdon from ESPN Chalk with Sterling on the
big one. One more thing here. You may have seen
some of the opening ceremonies. Maybe you're watching in advance
since they're already ahead of us in Italy. Anyway, the
Olympics are on. Is that a big wagering sport globally
or domestically? How does that play out? Because there's so
many different you know, athletes and so many different types

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of activities or sports in competition for these medals.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Historically it is not a very popular betting event in
the US, typically because the time difference is an issue
a lot of the times, and some of these events
don't necessarily lend themselves to to good betting. Ice skating
and figure skating and things that are judged or are
sometimes they difficult. Now I will say that there has

(16:15):
I'm assuming there has been some increased interest on Lindsay Vaughn.
What a crazy story that is Skier Tour a c
L just last week and then is out there competing.
So I would assume that that those betting markets will
be a little more popular. And then the hockey, the
hockey will we'll, we'll generate a little action at the
sports books. Uh, but overall Olympic sports winter or summer

(16:39):
are not heavily beat traditionally with US sports books.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It nice to see some USA hockey do something. I
remember when I was literally a hatchling. I remember being
in mynt and uncle's house and they had a little
teeny black and white TV you know, set up in
like the dining area, so we could watch I guess
it was the replay of hockey, which was amazing, So
that that was pretty cool. One more thing before we
let you bounce, and just to go back to the

(17:03):
Super Bowl, what's your take on this? I mean, we
know what there seems to be heavy money for the Seahawks,
but what you're taking, how do you see this playing out?
And then we'll let you go off to enjoy the
weekend in Super Bowl fun.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, I'm on the Seahawks and I'm gonna lay.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
The points spread is four and a half, but I
actually am going to lay seven points and you know,
get a little extra price there. I think I was
plus one forty something around there. I think this is
a two score game. I think the Seahawks are just
all around better all sides of the ball. And I
think that the Patriots have kind of been a little

(17:40):
bit lucky with the teams they've got to face here
in the playoffs and late in this season.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
So I like the Seahawks to win this comfortably.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, thank you for making time. You see him on
ESPN in recent weeks. You've seen him all over the
place talking about a lot of the aberrational stuff dealing
with wagering and everything else, and he covers the business
sports betting like a two ton heavy thing. He's the man,
David bring the paint Perton for ESPN Chalk. Thank you
for making time. You're a good man. Take care of yourself.
More sterling coming back. Seven hundred WLW Super Weekend, superbal

(18:15):
happening and uh not a lot with movies, Kevin Carr
back guys at the movies, Silver Gecko on the sub stack,
maybe playing a little ketchup because there's just so many
there's only so much time. You got to pick one. Kevin,
how are you house everything? Do you feel super this weekend?

Speaker 7 (18:30):
I feel I would. I don't know if I say super,
you know good? I feel good. I mean at this
point I'm in my fifties. You wake up, you gotta
take Adville and if you're just good, you're doing great,
you know what I mean. So so yeah, it gets
it's it's it's pretty good. I mean, it's you know,
you know, to the baseline fluctuates over the years and

(18:52):
uh and by fluctuate starts crashing when you're in your forties.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that's sort of true.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Rus Jackson and I just sort of put our heads
down and think about that just a little bit here
on a weekend, Stirling, Sure, why not. Let's before we
get into being super Bowl weekend. There's a lot of
football movies, not necessarily super Bowl movies. Want to talk
about that, but playing ketchup, it's tough. This is historically
super Bowl weekend. A lot of movies are not released

(19:18):
maybe streaming, but I mean they don't take a chance
on putting something out in theaters that's gonna get lost,
do they.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Yeah, well, yes, and no, I mean a lot of
big movies aren't released. They don't drop a major movie
on super Bowl weekend because you lose Sunday completely because
people are either watching the super even if you don't
like football, people will go for the food they're they're
they're going to watch the commercials even you can watch

(19:45):
most of those online now like now. But uh, it's
it's it's an event. It's very much that American event
that just gobbles up, you know, to suck the air
out of the room for everything else. But a lot
of smaller movies. So there's actually a bunch of stuff
that's been released. I don't know off the top of
my head of what they are. But this week and
last week there was a New Strangers movie, there was

(20:07):
Send Help, and there was last week you had that
Jason Satan movie Shelter, and now you've got I'll be
talking about a new Dracula movie that that's out, And
so we have a lot of smaller films out but
nothing big and I don't even know if anything's gonna
beat Send Help and Iron Lung from last week, which

(20:27):
which Iron Lung is kind of a big surprise hit
itself because it was self financed by Mark a Plier,
who's this YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Really, now, how does one get away with doing that
and getting it released and having it be such a
huge footprint when you say, I mean it's doing that, Well,
that's shocking considering how much muscles behind big releases.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Well, I mean, for well, first of all, Iron Lung
was last week, so even market Plier's not going after
the super Fowl. But you know you have enough influence.
I mean, some of these big top dog in YouTube,
millions of people, billions of views of their videos. They're
very they're they're very well known. Maybe not to an
over generation, but you know, anyone under thirty knows who

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these guys are. And he basically just took this took
this video game and self financed it, and he has
the money to do that, and then he got it
into movie theaters. Because here's the thing, a lot of
people think that movie theaters and movie studios are kind
of the same thing. They're not. And we really saw
that during COVID when theaters got shut down and then

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they're like, we gotta have something to play, so they
were doing legacy hits and that kind of stuff. Or
like when Taylor Swift said, Hey, I'm gonna distribute my
own video and go away from the studios and just
strike a deal with AMC and they cut the studios
completely out of that financial juggernaut, and to a much
smaller degree, that's kind of what Mark Plier did with

(21:53):
with iron lung, and you and I don't know anything
about iron lung because we got gray hair. But those
who don't are aware. Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
That makes good sense now to get Let's switch to
this Dracula thing for a minute, because I mean you
look at I mean from the beginning of when they
started writing about vampires. There have been a ridiculously large
number of like Dracula or vampire type movies, haven't there.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean like hundreds, Oh, they've been.

Speaker 7 (22:25):
Yeah, there have been a lot because I mean, of
course Dracula though the book was written by Bromstoker in
eighteen ninety seven or published in eighteen ninety seven, and
the first Dracula. I think there was another Dracula attempt
in film, like really the early advent of cinema, but
it was no Sparatu, the German movie from nineteen to

(22:48):
twenty tween two. Yeah, twenty two.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, that's in the top of my mind because I
just rewatched that thing not long ago.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
It's a great movie. It was actually Bromstroker's Widow, Actually
it was it was so long ago. Bro Stoker's widow
was able to sue this German company from making the movie,
even though they called him count Orlock and they changed
something that it was Dracula. But they were ordered to
actually destroy the film, but they didn't, which is good
because it's a very good movie. And then in nineteen

(23:17):
thirty one, nine years later, they did the Bayla Lagosi version,
which is the most well known really now even today
and we're coming up in five years to its one
hundredth anniversary. Universal did that.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
That's disturbing. By the way.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on Substack was sterling on the
Big One talking about this new Dracula movie and let's.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Slash back to the Bella Lagosa movie.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't know if they did it at the same
time or like just consecutive filmings, same sets, effectively, same story,
almost verbatim. Right, they did the Spanish version or a
Mexican version of the same movie.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
That's crazy cool.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Yeah, what they would do is they did this a
lot for the Spanish language market. They would shoot a
film during the day and then everyone would go home
and then the Spanish language cast and crew would show
up and shoot with the same pretty much all the
same elements, and they'd shoot the Spanish version, and honestly,

(24:13):
the Spanish Tracula, the guy who plays Dracula is a
little cheesy, but it's arguably a better constructed movie. They
take more time with their setups. There was there was
there's series that Todd Browning wasn't thrilled with what was
going on when he did Dracula, so he kind of
just sort of phoned it in a little bit some
of the some of the shots, and but also the

(24:35):
other big difference this is a cultural thing.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I'm sure.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
There's the bust lines are a lot lower on the
Spanish Dracula.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
The women's I did notice that it wasn't just me then, Okay, the.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Cleavage of the Carpathian mountains was much more prevalent in
in the in the Spanish language version. But yeah, that's
a very good movie. But it's just you can't top
bail Agosi's portrayal of the Count. And then, of course
throughout the years you had of course Hammer's versions of it,
and then then it just kind of blew up and
everybody was doing versions of Dracula by the time you

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got to the seventies. You know, then they had black Ula.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I love that movie. I mean, I know it wasn't
exactly a great film, but I mean I love that.
I even liked that what was it Nick Cage thing.
A couple of years ago we talked about Redfield.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I thought that was fun.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, And those are the fun things.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
I think.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
The thing is, we've done Dracula to death and no,
no pun intended, completely intended, but you know it's it's like,
it's nice to do something different, and that's why I
like different takes on it and everything. Now, what's funny
with this Luke Bassan version. Luke Bassan directed, he produced
to take in movies, and he did like leem Nikita,
and he did like Lucy. He directed Lucy. That one

(25:53):
was Scarlett Johansen who had got power typing. Yeah, He's like, well,
we're gonna do this and we're gonna do this thing
because it's a love story and goes there's no love
story in the original book. If you've ever read Bromstoker's
original novel, there's no love story. There's no real connection
between Dracula and Mina. If she's just one of his
is somebody he bit and is trying and uses like

(26:17):
a psychic connection, but there's no love involved. It's not
like his wife had been reincarnated from four hundred years ago.
That started in the sixties, Okay, Originally Dan Curtis, who
did Dark Shadows, he had Barnabas Collins as a vampire
there who was basically Dracula, and so they had him
searching for a lost love. And then when Dan Curtis

(26:38):
did his TV movie of Dracula with Jack Palance in
nineteen seventy four, that's when they wove in this hole.
He's looking for his resurrected lover, and that has persisted
in a lot of stuff. Brom Stoker's Dracula by Francis
port Coppola in nineteen ninety two definitely filled that a lot,

(27:00):
and they he even had the tagline love Never Dies.
And even since like Fright Night nineteen eighty five was
a Stracula that's that's that had the reincarnated love in
it and everything. So there's nothing new and so I
don't know what Luke Passan's smoking, but he got his
history wrong. But it's a Dracula movie. It's a it's
a period piece, and it's lavish and extravagant and uh,

(27:22):
it's silly at times, but you know, Caleb Landry Jones
choose the scenery with his fangs and he is he's
just a delightful performance as it's demented countant. So I'll
give him, give him a pass on that.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
There you go, Rush Jackson is bruising the show. So
what about Loved First Bite one of his.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, that's a great one, but no, that's that's actual Dracula. Yeah, yeah,
but I think, you know, because he was into Susan
Saint James, who wasn't Yeah, well yeah, and but I
do believe I think that that he did. She did
look like his residence, like the version of his wife,
and so I think they used that in Love It
First Bite as well.

Speaker 9 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
And what was the one with Jim Carrey where he
was sort of taken in Once Bitten? Yeah, I think
that's what it was.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
And that's with Lauren Hunting. You know, she was she
was getting a little older, but she still looked pretty
good back in what was it the eighty late eighties,
early nineties.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, it was one of his earlier things. I think
if he was still doing like living collar stuff or
what I don't even know.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
But yeah, I want to say nineteen eighty five. It
was pretty early.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
You know.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
It's funny was speaking of Jim Carrey. There's nothing to
do with Dracula. He was in the movie The Deadpool,
which is one of the one of the dirty Harry movies.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, but it was like on a down load, right,
well it was.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
It's just nobody knew who he was because it was
in the late eighties and nobody really knew wo Jim
Carrey was okay at the time. And when I remember
going to see that movie in the theater because he
played a rock like a like a you know, hardcore
rock guy, and yeah, he overd overdos was on drugs,
but it was like the killer was doing it because
his name was in a dead Pool. But when I
saw the movie as a teenager, I was just like, Oh,

(28:57):
this is just some crazy guy and he's either the
effect of new rocker. If you go and watch that
clip now on YouTube, you can't take it seriously because
it's Jim Carrey playing an crazy rocker doing a music
video of Welcome to the Jungle by by Oh Gosh

(29:17):
who did to Welcome to the Jungle? Yes, guns n'
roses yea.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, and Russ says that it was Leem Neeson
who played that guy that was so that was way
before taking and took and still got to get whatever
all the names of the more.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, Leam Neeson played the music video director. And
so you had these two like who became huge stars
before they became huge stars in America. And because Liam
Neeson had a bit of history in Irish films and
stuff like that, but you know, it wasn't until he
came over. So yeah, that's if you want to see,
go go say it's the opening of Just Just Through

(29:52):
the Deadpool with Jim Carrey. You can find it on YouTube.
It's weird to watch now because it's just it's a
different scene.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, totally different times. Kevin Carr, by the way, solb
get on the sub stack. Melanie in Oakley says, what
about Adam Sandler in Hotel Transylvania.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh yeah, that was.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, and that was having some fun with Dracula,
you know, and it was they they love doing kids movies.
Kids think of Dracula and you're like, they always have
to kind of get around. He doesn't really kill anyone. Now,
you know, he kind of tried skirt the whole morality
of being a monster, which is.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Really kind of insidious because the fact is you wean
him on it that way, and then the next thing
you know, they're in a trance and then he's taking
their fluids too, and that's not good.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
No, I don't know you're yeah, but yeah, you know,
the the Hotel Translate Venu is fun. I remember as
a kid watching like the Drag Pack on Saturday mornings,
And of course you have the whole Count Chocula angle.
You never had cartoons, but the Count, you know, the
Count on Sesame Street. He's basically Dracula. He just loves
the Count's.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Right, because it's fun and it is still fun, counting Kevincarr.
Before let's shift here. A super Bowl is happening, and
I could talk vampires till midnight, probably, but that that
would be a long way to go. Yeah, it would
be super Bowl movies. There are a few, but a
lot of football movies. Do you have like any that

(31:19):
you're like, oh, these are my mussy or are you indifferent?
I mean, because I think again it goes back to
Adam Sandler water Boy, which is the fun part. Jerry
Maguire Brian Songs emotional any given Sunday's tremendous.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Well, yeah, And what's funny with me is though the
ones I tend to gravitate to. And I don't know why,
but I tend to like the college football movies better,
like Rudy's such a great movie.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Rudy is absolutely a great movie.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Or even remember The Titans, which was high school?

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, and then there's Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Right, there's Friday Night Lights. That's that's a big popular
I personally didn't particularly like it, but and I know what,
everyone loves the TV series. But but there's also but
you can have fun with it too. I mean you
can have the serious ones and then you can have
the more fun ones. You know, North Dallas forty and.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
They did twice, right, they did that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think we were kids. It was like in the
eighties or late seventies were I was small when the
first one came out, and then I know, they just
did the last one again, a remake. What last ten years,
give or take five years.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
Are you thinking you wait, are you thinking of the
Burt Reynolds movie. You're thinking of the longest yards maybe
that longest yard, yeah, because that was Burt Reynolds, and
then Adam Sandler, who of course played Dracula. Yeah in
the cartoons. He was in the longest yard in the remake,
which was longer than ten years ago. I hate to

(32:40):
call you, No, it's.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right to goes fast.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I was just talking to Russ about that off the year,
and mister Jackson's like, it's true, dude, it's what happens.
And yeah, I guess I did get confused NORTHUS Dallas
forty with the other two.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So because there are so many Yeah, and.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
Another you know, what's a really good sort of like surprise.
You didn't realize that it would be a football movie,
as Heaven Can Wait with Warren Baby.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh, I vaguely remember that. Now, was that someone trying
to get to heaven? They came back to try to
fix stuff? I mean, was it one of those.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Yeah, he died and he had to go back into
a guy's body and he ended up being a million
or something. Then he like bought the Dallas Cowboys or
the Rams or something like that, and then they turned
into a football movie. It's it's kind of this weird
progression of a film. I know, I don't have a
whole bunch of more recent ones, but yeah, I mean
it's it's just they kind of come in gluts, you know,

(33:28):
here and there, you get a whole bunch of them,
and then they kind of dial back. Gus is a
great movie.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh I forgot about Dusts. Yeah, now that had Don Knots, right, donts.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
It all goes back to Don Knotts, one of the
most underrated actors of all time.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
I love Don Nuts and for once he wasn't playing
the ass the donkey that would kick the football. Yeah,
or Earbud Bud Yeah, yeah, Abud was Airbud was basketball.
Airbud wide Retriever was.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Playing with words there. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
All right, you can get Kevin Carr in your box,
your mailbox electronically. He's not just gonna show up in
his shorts, in his beard and just be like, here's
some comics I wrote, or random other etchings and random
other stuff. Maybe he he is that way sometimes, Silver
Gecko on Substack, fat Guys of the movies, anything else
before you let you bounce Kevin Carr.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
No, I think that's it. Yeah, just you know, get
you get your I'm here. I'm here for the food.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
The food is good. We like the ads. We like
the food, we like the football, we like the movies.
And we love you.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Kevin Carr. Thank you for making it all right. Man,
get out of here. We'll talk to you again soon.
More Sterling coming back later on. We'll talk to Kathleen
Fuller O dot Potholes seventy five and two seventy five
with some future upgrades. Barrel season, Mike d Wallspace dot Com.
So much to do all till midnight here together, Sterling

(34:55):
Nation Station, home of the Red seven hundred W l W,
Cincinnati Will. President Trump apologized for the racist video posted
on his truth social feed depicting showing former President Obama
and First Lady.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
As apes.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Listen, it's the President of the United States, and it's
a ridiculously wicked, ugly, hateful, flat out racist trope that's
been out there since basically the beginning of time and
just utilized with and four convenience. Posted on his feed

(35:39):
for the better part of twelve hours, defended, defended by
his press people, yeah, saying, you know, no, apologies. I
don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense. The president
of the United states he has so many plates spinning

(36:02):
that effectively in the middle of the night, he takes
time to post this video. I want to ask you.
Our president not gonna apologize, said I didn't make a mistake.
The Press secretary defending the video and called people complaining

(36:27):
about it outraged about it fake outrage. So I mean,
here we are, it's Friday night. I'd like to goof off.
I'd like to have some fun. And we've covered super
Bowl stuff and movie stuff. We got the pothole talk
later into issues with Odott Cincinnati. After the ten thirty report,

(36:49):
we'll go to space with Mike Dwallspace dot com. But
I want to open up the phones right now. Did
President Trump do anything wrong?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Is it a hoax?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
A buddy of mine says it's a hoax that somehow
people have been hoodwinked into believing that President Trump would
post this. Somebody else I know said it was funny,
it was a laugh. It's just a gag. It's no
big deal. I've seen on social media people saying it's

(37:27):
Trump derangement syndrome. Can you imagine if anyone else, whether
they worked here where I am at seven hundred WLW,
if they worked at a fortune five hundred company, if
they worked for a major brand of some other type,

(37:53):
a PR person, an underling doing something like this. But
the President of the United States seems below the office,
seems below the belt and ugly and disgusting and bewildering.

(38:18):
Are you okay with it?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Does it make sense? Is it just funny?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Is it something or nothing? Give you a chance to
sound off. I mean, I just try to wrap my
brain around it, and I have a real hard time
making sense of it. Five point three seven four nine
seven thousand, eight hundred the big one. You can talk

(38:51):
back on the iHeartRadio app by clicking on that microphone
and leaving a message. If you're on a X at
Stirling Radio, you can find me there. Carolyn Lovitt said
it was just, you know, outrage that was made up, fake.

(39:13):
Then they pulled it down after some twelve hours. The
video is about a minute long. It was shared by
President Trump last night about eleven forty four pm talking
about election of twenty twenty and already proven to be
bs claims that have been debunked about it being fixed. Look,

(39:38):
he lost by seven million, he came back, he won
a second term, and that's why he's in office, just
finished up his first year, that's why he's there now
doing the work that he's doing. Now, I just you know,
tell me, And if you're somebody with more melanie in
your skin than me, I would like to know. Oh,

(40:01):
how does this make you feel that the sitting president
of the United States somehow downplays this and acts like
it's nothing, that his underlings act like it's nothing. But
there's hate and frustration and aggravation and complaints from both
sides of the aisle, and lawmakers across the country coming
out of the woodwork in a very rare situation to say,

(40:23):
you know what, no, baby, no, this ain't right.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Do you think it's right? What would have happened if
Biden had done that?

Speaker 7 (40:31):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
What would happen if it was not about race and
a former president and a first lady, But if it
had been about Catholics or Jews or Baptist or Muslims
or pick another group, Jays or transsexuals, or pick one
some other group that you know is regularly poked at
or marginalized in some other type of way. When it's convenient,

(40:55):
when it's okay, I am, I can buy it. Frankly,
I want to know what you think it's going to
go on. Larry's First in Redding five three hundred, the
big one, your chance to get interactive Friday Sterling, Larry,
what's up?

Speaker 6 (41:11):
What do you know?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
What do you think?

Speaker 11 (41:13):
Well, first of all, I no longer live in Redding,
I keep telling the guy I lived at Cincinnati. I
moved in Cincinnati last July.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
All right, well, I'm glaging. I'm glad you found a
new place.

Speaker 11 (41:24):
Was a certainly was a culture shock. But hey, listen,
uh by, would Trump take the time, Well, why why
did Obama take the time to create a fake Russian
hoax and try to.

Speaker 12 (41:36):
Put Larry Trump and just do you know.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Dun new soundry tell me about their video and.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Tell me put it this way.

Speaker 11 (41:46):
Yeah cares, but you've seen the care a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
But nobody really cares. So you don't care because you're racist.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
I guess.

Speaker 11 (41:53):
Well, just like they say, what Joe Trump can't take
a joke.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So that that's a joke.

Speaker 13 (41:59):
Take a joke?

Speaker 9 (42:00):
Oak?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Is that a joke?

Speaker 11 (42:01):
You think it's lighting up?

Speaker 13 (42:04):
Buddy?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Lighting up? So so you're okay with it? A president
of the United States, I could care less.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
I don't know why you care so much, because.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's insulting, it's disgusting, it's racist and frankly anti American
for me, Well, you know, Larry, for first of all,
whatever whatever, are you able to have an articulate thought
and conversation with.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Me here or not.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
I'm just telling well, you're the ones all up and
roars like you're a racist yourself. Probably, I mean, it
takes one to know one.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I guess, huh, how am I racist?

Speaker 11 (42:37):
Why do you get so upset? It's like you did
with the Lincoln Heights thing, big brigging deal. I don't
see you going out getting all upset about others.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
For those who don't know, the Lincoln's Height Lincoln Heights
thing was masked dressed in black, just shopping. Go away, Larry,
thank you that, Back in your cage and back on
your mets. So he mentions the Lincoln Heights thing that
was about some racist Nazis with long guns who came
out and intimidated people some time ago and basically faced

(43:09):
no real charges or anything under the guise of free speech.
So uh, yeah, I found a problem with that. Yeah,
I found it disgusting and inappropriate and Apparently that's where
the line of free speech is for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
So I just is it possible.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
That as we sit here, we're okay with the president,
or you're okay with the president who thinks it's all
right marginalizing people because of the color of their skin
and making it look like posting a video of them
as apes. That's American, that's class, that's top notch. It's

(43:50):
certainly the American way, and that's our president. To meddletown
in John was Sterling five three seven, four nine eight hundred,
the big one, John, what do.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
You think Sterling?

Speaker 6 (43:59):
What happened was he vaguely looked at the video on
the cliff right, He didn't see that racist end. This
is what the news, the big news aren't reporting. He
posted that. You know, he's not mister perfect. He makes mistakes.
You know that's already been proven in the past. He
posted that, but he didn't realize what the ending was
made a suff Look, I can ask there, Yes he did, okay,
but we're all behind this man, will be behind him

(44:21):
one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (44:22):
There was a mistake. I know, he didn't mean that.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
He didn't see the end of that, and that's you know,
and I've already read the articles. He didn't he didn't
mean for that to be post.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
He didn't know the end of that.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Why why would person defend it, I'm not you know,
because that's what they do.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
They're defending. You know, you're defending.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
I'm not sure. I didn't see exactly, you know, if
they were just depicted as as like apes or monkeys,
and someone thought it was prejudiced, maybe they're the ones
that are prejudice or was it depicting them as apes?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yes, you know perfectly.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I've known was there was, there was no accident, and
then yes, it was their heads on apes and it
was a skid. It's ridiculous, right, And.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
What I've what I've read is that he didn't see
it all the way through.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Do you believe that, really the President of the United
States posts something to the war?

Speaker 7 (45:07):
So I think I do believe it.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
And here's why, because you've never seen him post anything
any anywhere near that and his life and he's done
some doozies, right, but nothing near that, right, So you'd
have to you'd have to imagine. Yet he asked this,
probably wasn't ignorant mistake.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Why won't he apologize?

Speaker 7 (45:23):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Why wouldn't he apologize?

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Because he's not as seen as were you ever known
mister Trump to apologize in his life. No, it's just
not who he is, and that's not how he was
raised to be.

Speaker 10 (45:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
And he's not apologetic.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
That's just the way it is. We apologize when we
loved Trump. We know he didn't mean to do that,
and he didn't see the end of that.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
We believe him when.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I'm just curious, honestly, here, Uh, at what point? Where
is the line of where you go?

Speaker 9 (45:50):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
No, that's who he is and he was okay with it,
and he's not going to apologize because he doesn't give
a damn.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
And that's just what it is. I mean, how can you?

Speaker 9 (45:57):
How do you?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I am bewildered at the ability of people to apologize
and find a way for excuses for him. Like no
one I have ever heard in my career is a
human to this point.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Right, Well, he's not a perfect individual by no means.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, no, neither am I, and neither are you. John.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
We're human, right, That's that's my point.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
We're just not in the power where the media sees
every single mistake we made. He made a mistake on
that and everybody's seeing it. He doesn't have to run
a third term unless we want him to.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Right, well, he can't. You know, you get two terms
in the United States.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
That's what I'm saying, So we can give him this mistake.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
So we give it.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I gotcha, all right, all right, John, I appreciate the
call me in. Thank you. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
He's not going to get a third term. He didn't
watch the video all the way through. Uh, it was
an accident. You give the guy a pass, You give
the guy a mulligan on it. You go, Oops, it's
just the president. He doesn't have time to pay attention
to everything that he posts, so it's not it's nothing.

(47:02):
It's no biggie right, Wow, that's amazing President of the
United States. Some racist bs if I ever heard it
five point three seven four nine eight hundred, the Big
One and talk Back the iHeartRadio app. I mean, it
makes my head and my heart hurt.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
It does.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I would think that we're better than this as a nation,
as a people, but we're not. And people are alright
with They're like, no No, he's my man.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That's all right. You know how he is.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
He's just old. He's a racist white guy, but you
know he's doing good things. Really, can you imagine if
Biden had done that? Can you imagine if Obama had
done that and it was some white people dressed up
as like clans people or something. I mean, it is wow,
tremendous to west Wood. And Kevin was sterling on the

(47:51):
big one. What do you think the president? Is she
gonna pass here?

Speaker 14 (47:57):
So are we talking about the highest level of administrator
in the lands?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Early?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
That's that's the president. That's the president.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (48:08):
So I am, I am, I believe right, a true
blue American from the heart. I think that no matter
who you are, right, you should have expectations of the
president to be the highest administrator of the land. And

(48:35):
and I don't understand how people keep trying to First off,
how do you keep playtating him and don't hold him
accountable for his own actions?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That's what.

Speaker 13 (48:48):
He's a great old man. It's not like he's a child.
And oh you were going to smack him on the
head like no, no, that's bad, you should do better.
This is and he's in the highest office out the last. Really,
I don't care if you're black, white, makes Mexican, Chinese.
You are the representative of the United States. You literally

(49:11):
are court blanked the representative of the whole country, and
you should be held to that standard, just like every
other president before this one. It is crazy that people
have the nerve, honestly, to say, oh, it was just
a joke. That's that's not a joke. And if that
is your joke, you.

Speaker 8 (49:34):
Have no taste.

Speaker 13 (49:36):
And it is terrible that the president of the United
States has no text.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
It is bewilderer Todd. I appreciate the callments, Kevin, thank
you for the call. I'm sorry to Todd. Now got
about a minute. What do you have? Is this the
president of the United States doing what an oops and accident?
You give him a mulligan or and you go, this
is just who he is, and that's some ugliness. I mean,
I'm bewildered by him.

Speaker 12 (49:56):
Yeah, well, I don't get it, because I you know,
I voted for Trump three times, and I love the majority,
not all, but the majority of his policies. And I
don't understand why from time to time he does things
that are this stupid. I don't understand it, and as
a leader of the Republican Party who's trying to get
the African Americans to vote for them more and more,
I don't understand why you would do.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
You know, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I I'm almost afraid to think of if I actually
understood it, that I would be maybe part of the
problem too.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I don't know, Todd. I appreciate the comment. Thank you do.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Can I get NICKI in. I gotta get in trouble us.
I'm gonna get in trouble. All right, let's do this,
NICKI hang on. We'll try to keep this going. We
maybe revisit this as well. We get Kathleen Fuller from
od out. We got to ten third report straight away,
more Sterling. Friday night, the President of the United States
host some racist stuff. Not his fault, it's just an ups.
Give him a mulligan, right, unbelievable. Seven hundred WW missed

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the day, miss some snow missed the ODDD trucks in
and around the tri state and Kathleen Fuller snow quick from.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Botot, Cincinnati. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
How's everything?

Speaker 15 (51:07):
I'm doing fine, and I think things are are pretty.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Good right now, Yeah, not too bad, but you know
what I have seen because this has been horrendous. So
it's been cold and then it warms up, then it
gets wet and it's a really cold and and more
snow and on and on in the last two weeks
or so since Fern, which by the way, is still
the most poorly named storm I think I've ever encountered
when it comes to harassment by snow or otherwise, Kathleen,

(51:31):
the potholes, if you listen closely, you can almost now
hear the road surfaces, degrading on seams and random other
o spots. How soon are you able to get out
there and patch it? Because I'm guessing this erratic weather
doesn't help odot.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
No, the weather doesn't. Obviously.

Speaker 15 (51:49):
We try to get out and address those, you know,
as soon as we can and as soon as we're
aware of them, more as soon as we spot them.
So it's one of those things that, you know, get
out of a storm cycle, we will definitely go out,
you know and repair them immediately. But you know, we
know what's coming, which we've got the freeze and then
we've got the fall cycle.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
So that means potholes, So.

Speaker 15 (52:09):
We'll probably, you know, be getting getting out there a lot,
and I'd say next week we'll be having a lot
of crews out there avement repairs.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Any idea at this point how far through the season
as we sit here in the first week or so
into February. On the use of salt and melt products.
I'm always interested in like the tonnage because for some
reason I get a kick out of that. It really
doesn't mean anything to most of us because we get
like a fifty or one hundred pound bag of stuff
and we're set at the house. But you guys have truckloads,

(52:38):
and I'm just curious how much you've gone through throwing
salt melt.

Speaker 15 (52:42):
So I haven't kicked the numbers today, I'll be honest.
I kind of took the day off. Yeah, so I
haven't kicked the numbers. But so going into after the
last storm, the big storm, the firm after Fern. So,
going into Fern, we had the round I think forty
forty one thousand tons on hand district wide for us

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in district day, so forty one thousand tons.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Going into it.

Speaker 15 (53:06):
We came out of it, we had only used around
ten thousand times sense because we weren't putting down a
lot of salt. We weren't putting any salt down during
the height of the storm.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
We were just plowing.

Speaker 15 (53:15):
So we put a little bit down in the beginning,
and then we used a lot in the after, but
not not a tremendous amount because it was so cold,
which we talked about all of that, like what why
salt wasn't going to be effective and all that great stuff,
and why salt usage would be kind of limited. So
ten thousand tons from a huge storm not too bad.
So we went into the beginning of the week, we
had around thirty two thousand on hand. I know, we

(53:37):
had a little bit of something that happened on Tuesday
wasn't much, so you know, we had more than enough.
I'd say that today, you know, we put down a
lot more salt in our district. I don't know the
numbers because I won't see those until probably Monday. You know,
we've probably put down quite a bit of salt today
because of the temperatures, because you know, it was a
lot of snow that came in very quickly, and.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
That temperature was for you know, the use of salt.
So yeah, we use.

Speaker 15 (54:03):
You know, on hand, our district average use each year
is probably forty forty five thousand tons. You know, in
a really bad winner, we're going to see that number,
probably about fifty thousand tons for the entire winner for
US winter season, winter weather season. But it's been there
have been off years where we didn't have a whole lot.
We've only used, you know, a lot of precipitation. We

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only use maybe twenty five thousand times.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
For the whole season.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
It's just an inconceivable amount. Kathleen Folder, by the way,
from Odave, Cincinnati, was Stirling on the Big one. Where
do you get that salt and other melt product? I mean,
because there's got to be like veins of salt someplace.
Does it come from Greece? Where does it come from?
I'm just curious where does the originally.

Speaker 15 (54:43):
There are salt mines in northern Ohio up around the lake.
And then yeah, we get our shipped in from gosh,
I can't think of where exactly. You asked me how
too quickly? So they come in and you know there's
different You've got different suppliers and who depends on who
the contract is with and throughout the state. I think
we have you know, kind of varies from district to

(55:05):
district who they're who their contracts with. But you know
that there's uh, like you know, Carville is one of
those suppliers and stuff, so you know there there are
salt mines up around in the Cleveland Lake Erie area
up there, and then I can yeah, and so I don't.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Want to misspeak.

Speaker 15 (55:21):
So we'll just pretend that Kathleen doesn't know, rather than
to say I didn't.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I didn't mean to put you in a corner. I'm sorry,
I'm not I'm not trying to be that guy, Kathleen.
You know, it's late, it is, It's all right, it's
you know. What's funnyest I remember one of the first
times is a kid noticing what was going up and
down the river on barges and I remember seeing there's
coal and I'm like, oh, that's what is that white
su there? Oh that's salt. I'm like, you're carrying salt
on the river. They're like, oh, yeah, it make its

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way down and on it go. So it's a pretty
amazing thing as it gets around. One of the things
in the last week or so, I saw some attention.
I know Russ Jackson's already been online. He's very excited
about having a hand and design and upgrades and improvements
for seventy five two seventy five, the exchange that all
of us love so much. I mean, you can always

(56:08):
tell people who aren't used to driving through the dry
state because they drive tentatively, and there is no room
for tentative driving in and around getting on two seventy
five or off without making things more complicated.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
How far along is the planning process for the upgrades.

Speaker 15 (56:26):
A lot, and we just kind of got kind of
early in the planning process. So right now, you know,
we have we've completed a feasibility study. We right now
have what's called the alternative evaluations going on, and we
have an open public comment period going to be open
at the end of February where people can go online
and give us their feedback about some of the alternatives

(56:47):
that we're proposing.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Once we get all of that, take a closer.

Speaker 15 (56:51):
Look at the different elements of each alternative, will come
up with a preferred alternative, and then we can forward
that into construction. Providing we get funding for constructions. We're
funded through design. I think we'll be able to get
there and it's probably going to take a couple of
years before we can probably about three be honest, before
we can actually get into construction. But what we're looking
at doing is reconfiguring and changing the access from seventy

(57:15):
five South to to seventy five East, and we're looking
at building a couple two options of our different styles
of a flyover ramp.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
And then they're looking at doing like a pension type
of system.

Speaker 15 (57:25):
But again, people should go online and check it out
at Public Input. I think it's publicantook dot com slash
I seventy five by two seventy five Improvements, and they
can get all kinds of great information about what we're
proposing to do and what those schematics, what those designs
are going to look like, and get us some input
on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Man, it's already almost barrel season and that's a couple
of years away from breaking ground and getting them going there.
And it just seems like those barrels just move from
one spot to another, up and down, you know, the
Interstate seventy five or seventy one, and that's the nature
of it. I'm not hating on you or what you do,
but I mean a lot of you know, you of traffic,
and you know it degrades and you've got to get

(58:03):
it fixed up and make improvements. That's just the nature
of the beast, I suppose. But yeah, what I think
a lot of people are wondering is because even though
we're here in February sort of still, you know, a
couple months arguably in the midst of this ugly winter,
which I'm I'm you know, it's closer to probably normal
than not, but I like to whine, as you know,

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but in the distance is barrel season. So what are
we looking at as far as barrels being put out
in work beginning or at least getting back up to
speed once this nasty, cold and ugly snow gets out
of here and it starts becoming a red baseball season.

Speaker 15 (58:41):
Well, we of course have the No Crease Expressway series
of projects taking place right now, Phases eight, eight B
and eight C. That's just several different projects that are
all coming together there between the lateral and Ronald Reagan.
So between the Nord latter and Ronald Reagan, we're doing
the widening, We're doing you know, railroad, bridge replacements, pump

(59:03):
station all of those things are basically underway still. They've
had a slow down for the winter months, but not
a complete shutdown, so the crews are working periodically. But
again you're going to be seeing, you know, more construction,
more work taking place on that dog month where we
are doing the widening. We're kind of starting on the
southbound side. We've got traffic traffic shifted over in a
contraflow lane that's in place, that's going to be there

(59:25):
for a while, So a lot of work happening there.
And then as you can a little further south, we
are getting ready to start the lind Street bridge replacement
project that is going to kick off, I believe next month.
I don't have an exact start date on hand, but
we are going to be closing Winn Street Bridge and
this is a part of a much bigger plan and
this ties into the Guest Street closure that we're going

(59:47):
to impact start for the water life, but also that's
going to tie into the entire Rob Brent Spence Bridge
cord Or series of projects.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
One of many different things happening.

Speaker 15 (01:00:00):
Lynn Street will be closing for the replacement there, so
there's gonna be a lot of packs coming up pretty soon,
very very quickly. There time in March, be looking for
that closure to happen. That providentually tie into a lot
of other improvements that we're making, not just on the
seventy five quarter, but also working with the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
City on some of their things. So lot's happening there
just on seventy five.

Speaker 15 (01:00:23):
Gosh, there's going to be work on two seventy five.
We've got some resurfacing we're doing. We've got oh another
project that's going to be getting underway, and people are
probably wondering why we're going to be doing this, But
the through the Lachland Split seventy five going northbound, that
long bridge, the long span that you have basically come
from Mill Creek and it goes up, it goes over

(01:00:47):
Mill Creek and then continues on, it goes over several streets.
We're going to be doing that, basically rehabbing that bridge
through northbound seventy five and then doing some pavement work there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
You know, it's gonna be a while before.

Speaker 15 (01:00:59):
We take away the lock and split and we realign
seventy five northbound to the south beund side. So in
the meantime, we've got to make sure the infrastructure that
is there is maintained and in good shape. So we've
got a big project taking place on that section. Boy,
I know there's gonna be a lot of other things
I'm gonna be talking about. Those are the main ones
I've got off the top of my head a lot

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for seventy five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
It really is. It's a lot of barrels, that's all
I know, in a lot of the lias.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But once it's all done getting across the Ohio back
and forth into the added span, that's going to looks
the renderings I've seen, I think they've come close to
finalizing most of it right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
It's looks spectacular.

Speaker 15 (01:01:36):
So it is, and this is a long time coming
to all of the work that they're doing on seventy
five through the Valley, Middle Creek Friend Spence Bridge Corridor,
where all of these things will make traveling through Hamilton
County so much safer easier, reducing congestion.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
That's going to be huge for us.

Speaker 15 (01:01:52):
You know, we've been it's been a long time coming
where we've done the widing, so we're, you know, slowly
but surely getting there. It just takes time, and you know,
we appreciate everybody being patient while this work is taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Well we appreciate you and what all of those people
in those trucks and out there on those roads getting
it done for us. And obviously it's difficult in the
best of situations when you're out there working with cars
moving quickly around you and not always necessarily slowing down.
But in the winter it becomes even more treacherous and disconcerting.
Even for me in the vehicle driving by. When I
see people, I kind of WinCE because that stuff shakes me.

(01:02:25):
I've seen what happens on the other side of it
when things go wrong and it's not good. So yeah,
that's serious stuff. Anything before you let your bounce because
you do such great work, and I know what we
rip you through a whole bunch of stuff real fast there,
but it's good information and we appreciate what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
You know, make our lives easier.

Speaker 15 (01:02:45):
No, sir, No, I appreciate the chance to be able
to talk about all things out and then you know,
I tell everybody, I've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
I enjoy it.

Speaker 15 (01:02:52):
It's always fun to talk about it. And again I
get to talk about it. I don't have to do
any really hard work.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
All the people that do all the hard work.

Speaker 15 (01:03:00):
They're the props too, because they're out there then, and
women of the daughter are doing it every day. I
talk about it, so I appreciate what they're doing because.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
They do the real work. Like I said, I get
to talk about it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
So that's.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
We've got a lot happening. So people should stay tuned
and make sure that they check us out online transportation
to ohio dot gov.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
You've got any.

Speaker 15 (01:03:19):
Comments for us feedback forms, you won't let us know
about anything going on in your area. Again, get in
touch with us and we'll be happy to answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
And og dot com is always fun watching those cameras.
You can even look for like overhead like signage and
the odd messages that I guess maybe some people that
we may or may not know coming up with some
very nice jokes.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
Let's just say, well, you know, there is a process
for everything that we do, and some people shall remain
nameless again, process for everything we do, and there is
an approval problem.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
We we don't need to mention him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I'm not going to know, but I will do. I'll
mention that.

Speaker 15 (01:04:01):
If you say his name three times, I'm gonna get
some weird message from him tonight I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Need that to No, no, no, I won't do that.
We'll say bruning twice and just leave it there. He's
no beetlejuice, that's for sure. All right, take care of yourself.
She's the lovely, the talented, the well informed, getting it
done for all of us. From ODUD, Cincinnati, the snow Queen.
Kathleen Fuller, thanks so much, take care of yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
We'll catch up again sooner than later.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Short on time, coming up on your eleven o'clock report,
I will come back. We're gonna revisit this whole situation
with President Trump and that posting of that video with
the Obama's former a president of Obama and the first
lady looking like abes putting there using AI to do that,
posting it and saying is it didn't make a mistake,
not apologizing and in short, NICKI has been holding on forever.

(01:04:47):
Let's get to her and Fairfax. Give you a chance
to sound off too. We'll go rapid fire the phones
after the eleven o'clock report five three, seven, four, nine hundred,
the big one, Nikki, thanks for holding What do you
think about the president and that on a true social
feed that was posted and then later after some twelve
thirteen hours polled, Well.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
I know Mulligan's for him, he knows exactly what he does.

Speaker 16 (01:05:11):
In fact, when he first was informed about it's the
press secretary they write, they doubled down on it and
didn't make it sound like that there was anything wrong
with his post. And that's a man who knows exactly
what he wants to do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
And it even goes back.

Speaker 16 (01:05:25):
To what he posted on Rob Reiner, what he posted
about when they had the king the No King's March
and he had that picture of him flying a plane
putting feces on the protesters.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
I mean, what is he is the leader of our country.

Speaker 16 (01:05:41):
Why in the world is he doing something so divisive
in this country? And on top of this, what I'm
going to say is that he's a man who he
doesn't care what kind of press he gets, whether he's
just as long as he's in the press, whether it's
negative press or positive press, He's in the press, and
that's all that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Matters to that man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Well, it's not really the image I wouldn't think that
anyone would want for their business, let alone their family,
let alone as an individual.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
And I can't make sense of it. Nikki.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I appreciate the call you're holding and what you bring
to the table, and hopefully you'll do it again. Thank
you for being a part of the show and listening
to well. Come back after your eleven o'clock report. Travis
Laird has an idea what's going on around planet Earth
and what's happening right here in the tri State that
matters to you, yours and mine as well as Russ Jackson.
He's keeping me on line and on time straight away.
Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
The big one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Is there something wrong with the president? Is he having
mental difficulties? Is he messed up? Is he just an
old racist bastard?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Who?

Speaker 8 (01:06:41):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
And why would he post that? Why would he not apologize?

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
And why?

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
How?

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Bewilderingly so many people want to go, oh, he didn't
mean to do it, it's just who he is. It
was an accident. Why apologize for some racist bs? It's
the nation station that you're listening to on a Friday night.
Sterling with your chance to be heard on the other
side of the news, Home of the reds Sterling seven
hundred w WELW Cincinnati hit Down you got people looking

(01:07:11):
to cash in on the horrible taking gone missing Savannah
Gunthrey's mom, Nancy from her FEMA County.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Home to Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So they got one guy who apparently looked to cash in,
who may or may not have been connected.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
They don't think he was connected. They swept the house again.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
It's been all over the place looking around, and they
have pulled something else off of the roof there in
the midst of what looks like people have done things
that were doctoring some of the surveillance insecurity system that
had been put up around that property. Her looks like
an idyllic place to live. Neighbors are nearby, not too close,
tons of desert scape. I mean, it looks other than

(01:07:55):
the fact that she was hoisted, looks like a great
place to kick back, have a cup of coffee, and
enjoy a more sunrise in that area. And you just
hope to God that she is alive and well in
the midst of this U and the people I was
just talking to a Russ Jackson off the air about this.
It is bewildering out of the woodwork. The load lifes
that come out to be like leeches and sucubus to

(01:08:17):
try to cash in on this or at least to
interfere with the investigation, and they should be held accountable legally,
not just morally. That's between them and you know, the
Lord above or whatever they may or may not believe in,
which clearly they don't have a lot of class and
decency for doing it. And that's not even the individual
or individuals apparently involved with this abduction as well. So

(01:08:39):
that is in the news that could arguably be topic
A to topic B, depending aside from the Super Bowl,
and of course the other thing that is. I mean,
I've been inundated with mail on this and messages at
Stirling Radio one X. You can pick up the phone
and give it the finger five point three seven four
nine seven eight hundred, the big one. You can talk
back on the iHeartRadio app if you're dreaming there, click

(01:09:00):
on the microphone and leave a message. We'll dip into
that and you know, you can sort of see ex
Sterling Radio on X as well as where I'm at,
the President of the United States, our president, leader of
the free world. Well, you think is fairly busy trying
to like, you know, handle global issues, trying to keep

(01:09:24):
US at peace and navigate stuff with Iran and Russia
and China, and to deal with the economic issues and
everything else. Late at night Thursday, apparently he had time,
the President did to post an ai doctor video put
together basically showing former President Obama and First Lady Michelle

(01:09:50):
Obama as apes, and that was on his truth social feed.
It was deleted twelve hours or so later, early part
of today, after is spokesperson was like, you know, defending

(01:10:11):
it in some fashion. I don't know how you could
defend it. She explained it and defended the video, slammed
the so called fake outrage earlier today, and I'm sort
of taken back by that. I can't imagine this is earlier.
And I'll give you a chance to sound off. I
don't know what you think I mean. Is this presidential behavior?

(01:10:34):
Is this the moral I'm gonna say moral because it
clearly it's lacking in morality in my opinion, but certainly
maybe the mental decline of the president. And what I
mean by that is no one reasonable rational saying any
brand man. Can you imagine if anyone here at the
Big One posted something like that on our social media feeds,

(01:10:57):
how quickly Mama, I heart, and the suit and tie
C suite types here along Montgomery Road where I sit
right now, would be involved with firing us, sending us
into a meeting to show how we could maybe benefit
for some education and understanding and sensitivity and the hurtfulness

(01:11:21):
and the hatefulness of something like that, and how that
would be taken by anyone, let alone someone of darker
skin than myself. And you know, I just want to
can you defend this for the president? Does it make
sense to you? Are you proud of our president for
doing this? Does it make sense to you? He doesn't

(01:11:42):
apologize for anything. I don't think he's ever really admitted
to making a mistake, other than maybe occasionally hiring someone
who has been a bad person as they came out
and talked bad about him in decisions he's made. I
want every president to do well. Let me just clarify this,
because anytime you say anything credit you know, critical of

(01:12:02):
this president, people come out of the woodwork and say
that you're not conservative or your anti Trump, You got
derangement syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I'm an equal opportunity offender. If someone here did it,
if some of my family had done this, if somebody
else in the spotlight had done this, We're talking about
the sitting president, the leader of the free world, who, somehow,
in the midst of all the other responsibilities and all

(01:12:35):
the other work that the president has to do, had
time to come up with it, had time to share, it,
had time to take the flag for it, had time
for lawmakers across both aisles, or the aisle, I should say,
from both so called parties, not very party like at
this point, and to have people like my Turner who

(01:13:02):
now represents after the redrawn districting issue, congressman out of
Dayton but now has a Middletown and Trenton is a
part of it because they redrew the lines, you know.
And he basically came out and says he doesn't feel
the need to respond to every inflammatory statement made by

(01:13:24):
the White House. However, the release of racist images of
former President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama's offensive, heartbreaking unacceptable.
President Trump should apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Do you think he should? That's from his post.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
I think that was on x also or Twitter, call
it what you want in choir also posted it too
at Cincinnati dot com. Look, everybody wants the president to
do well. But I'm just taken back. I've had a
couple of friends tell me, oh, he didn't mean it

(01:13:58):
has somebody else. I'm very to tell me, it's very
interesting in this says, well, somebody else probably posted for it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Who do you think that is?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
His underling would have the stones, the war votes, the balls,
the gumption, the gall to post something that would put
him in an ugly light for the wrath of Trump
or anyone else supporting him. And I scratched my head
and go, no, he himself has said he is the

(01:14:29):
only one responsible for what's posted there. He himself said
he didn't make a mistake, but they took it down.
Is it a problem or is it okay? Or is
it just well, that's who he is. It's like that
uncle in that room upstairs, nobody likes to talk about.

(01:14:51):
As you were a kid growing up, they told you
to stay away from because he might diddle you or
something like that, that weird uncle five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,
eight hundred, the big one. Instead he puts, you know,
he leads the free world. What's our men and women
in harm's way? At his order? At his he has
he's the president. Hey, how did the Big One talk back?

(01:15:13):
iHeartRadio out, iHeartRadio app. Thank you, click on the microphone
to white Oak.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I tried to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
My brain's working faster than I can actually verbalize it. Charlie,
thank you for holding. It's your turn with Sterling on
the Big One. Are you able to defend this? Does
this make sense to you? What do you think about
this post, this president in this circumstance and what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
If anything, I was a.

Speaker 10 (01:15:36):
Little upset about it, and then some Facebook things popped up.
Have you seen the entire video?

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
I've seen I don't know how much of it. And
then the ending, of course, where they're they're like.

Speaker 10 (01:15:53):
There's like twenty Democrat politicians, governors, senators, ex Presidents Hill
and Hillary, Kamala and Biden, and they're all as jungle animals,
not just the Obama's right, and there's and they're playing

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that and the Jungle the Lion sleeps the Night and
great Song and Trumps the Trumps.

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
The the Lion.

Speaker 10 (01:16:27):
But I was just saying, this was posted back in October, right,
So I wasn't this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I don't know anything back in October. Maybe it was
overlooked or missed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
I don't recall seeing it or hearing about it going
back a couple of months, but I can tell you
that it was posted to last night and then the
pulled away early on. My question is this, So tell
me this though, So you do recognize that doing that
with someone of darker skin African Americans, black, let alone
the former president in first lady, that that's sort of

(01:17:01):
a racist trope and something that's been dropped out there
into marginalizing and and really hateful type of stuff going
on for as long as we've been alive and more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yes, well.

Speaker 10 (01:17:15):
It's this an h it's I say, I don want
to say defending thing, but it's it's like the political
environment with the Nazis and.

Speaker 9 (01:17:23):
The fascists and uh, you know all that stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:17:26):
Going back and forth with with making comments about each
other that's been going on since wasn't it's been Trump?
I mean, if you didn't know what Trump was when
you voted for him, then you you've been living in
your closet or whatever, because you know, after seeing him

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on his on his TV shows and stuff, and so
do you think that's just who he is for I
didn't vote for him.

Speaker 13 (01:17:55):
I didn't vote for him.

Speaker 10 (01:17:57):
The first time and the second time. I didn't vote
for anybody do anything, either one of us or voting
for But then all the the try the impeachments and stuff,
and it just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Man, it's been a lot the last ten the last years.
It's been tough the last ten years. I mean, there's
been a lot of murkiness, you know, to say the least,
that's for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):
Yeah, it's been more it's about the more about talking
bad about each other and then talkings that are talking
about the issues.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
That need to be addressed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Man, I would think, and Charlie, I appreciate the comment.
Thank you for holding I know you were trying to
get through earlier too, so I appreciate it and a
good perspective. I just would think that the president of
the United States would have something better to do, let alone,
something maybe better to share. Could be wrong to Covington
and Zach and then Ron and room for you would
like to hear from the ladies as well, what do
you think about the president's post? If I've went three

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some four, nine, seven, eight hundred, the big one? Zach,
what's up man?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
How are you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
You doing?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I'm good, buddy, what's up?

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:18:59):
So you know, there's kind of piggybacking off what you
were saying. You know, I'm from like, you know, the
younger generation, you know, mid twenties, and you know, I've
better for Donald Donald Trump, and I don't know, it
doesn't make much sense to me, you.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
Know, saying what he's saying.

Speaker 14 (01:19:13):
You know, I hardly believe the main problem with this
country now is you're Republican or your Democrat.

Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
And what I hear from the younger generation, you.

Speaker 17 (01:19:22):
Didn't used to really be like that, you know, it
was you know, what are your views truly and now
it's you.

Speaker 14 (01:19:28):
Know, you're picking one side and it's causing the whole
boat lot of problems.

Speaker 7 (01:19:32):
And you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
It's an unfortunate thing what you just described. And for
a lot of people talk to some friends and their
kids and stuff, and makes them a sour on the
whole process, which is unfortunate. But in general, Zach, I'm
curious sitting president of the United States, or anyone who's
held that office for that matter, coming out and having
that attitude and that type of thing to share as
a role model for the nation, for the world.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
In fact, does that make you feel good about who's in.

Speaker 7 (01:19:58):
Office or no, I mean you know, like I mean no,
I mean it's hard.

Speaker 14 (01:20:04):
You know, when you would you believe, you know, in
certain things that he's doing, you know, certain policies and
you know, things that you know Republicans are pushing for whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
It's harder to defend when you see stuff like this,
you know, it really is, so.

Speaker 14 (01:20:20):
I don't know, it kind of degrades everything else that
he's doing good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Yeah, it's it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
It's frustrating to say the least.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
Do you think that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
There is a way for him to make good on this?
Do you think he should apologize? I mean if it
was your parent or my parent, I mean, would you
want your parent to I'm not saying the presidents like
our parent, but to kind of are like the godfather
for one of a better way to say it, of
the nation, which you know, some would argue that that
that maybe is sort of like the goal he has,
but is an apology helpful?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Should he apologize?

Speaker 9 (01:20:55):
Do you think? I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, I said the same thing when
he was doing debates and.

Speaker 14 (01:21:00):
His last like when he was running for the election
the last time, all he had to do was kind
of like acknowledge the fact that certain things are going
wrong in the conjurie at the time. He never did,
you know, it's I don't know, hot like have some accountability, you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:14):
Know, he like what you said, like he said in
the past that he has.

Speaker 14 (01:21:18):
Oversea, like he kind of runs the account I don't know,
kind of come out and say and the fact that
this is wrong.

Speaker 7 (01:21:25):
But he won't, you know, But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
You just hope somebody would be just a better person
just in general, you know what I mean. And it's tough,
Zach ay Man. I appreciate you listening, being a part
of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I hope you call back.

Speaker 9 (01:21:38):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
You take man, take care of yourself. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Got a time for a couple of more. Let's get
to Levin and Ron and then Jack and then coming
up by the way, Mikey Wall from space dot Com
after Travis Laird and the eleven third or your four
but that's a down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Ron, what's up, man? How are you? What do you
think about the president into this video post and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
I don't know that much.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
About it, but I heard you just describe it, and
I'm not sure you've seen all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
How much does one need to see? Though?

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
I don't see how any of that with them the
portrayed in that fashion is acceptable. I mean, I think
it's just some low rent, trash racist bs.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
Personally, would you agree that Obama led everything against the CIA,
against Trump, that he was in leadership and he has
done all these things to Trump to try to keep
him from office and killing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Well Ron, First of all, Obama hasn't been president for
ten years plus.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
Secondly, it was eight years plus four he was a president.

Speaker 16 (01:22:48):
Ron.

Speaker 17 (01:22:49):
No, No, he was not.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
You know, it's ridiculous, and I appreciate the call, Ron,
but see, that's part of the problem. You're gonna blame Obama,
who's been out of office for sixteen years effectively almost
ten years, I should say, And then you had Biden
who beat Trump in between now his second term to now,
and you're gonna somehow blame Obama for the post that
Trump did portraying them as apes. I mean, you know

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the mental gymnastics that people have to do to somehow
come up with some type of apology and point the
finger of blame for somebody who was victimized that's amazing.

Speaker 11 (01:23:27):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
If your turn was sterling on the big one, you
got about a minute go.

Speaker 9 (01:23:30):
Brother, Yeah, you've just summed it up here in the
last step at two minutes. You would hope the president
would be a better person. You would hope that it
would be a much better example setter. You're so right
when it comes down to a question about Trump. Even

(01:23:50):
those who are brainwashed and say they love Donald Trump
cannot stick up for him. Their argument is criticizing somebody else.
Just as you've described here the last few minutes, what
Trump did at eleven pm or at midnight, it's par

(01:24:12):
for the course. He's built his campaign for years on
trying to divide the country into segments that way he
can beat it down. He does it by sexism, bigotry, hats, fear,
and what he does overnight on social media is just

(01:24:34):
an extension of all of that. That's all I've got
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Thank you very much, Jack Gotsalini, a man. Thank you,
And you know, I'd like to be able to say
good things. And there are good things policy wise that
have happened, some good things that have gone on, but
it gets lost in all this crap. You can hear
the flushing sounds of the crap going down the tube. Now,
it's amazing, you're eleven third of reports straight away. Travis

(01:24:57):
Laird knows what's going on. He will disseminate quantities of
news to feed our minds. And then Mike Dwallspace dot
Com joins me to talk about I know it's shocking.
Russ Jackson is going to be uh space stuff after
the news here for Sterling seven hundred WULW astronaut at
least one anyway on that International Space Station, not necessarily gravely,

(01:25:18):
but they had to come back early, so they've been
low on staff up there, looking down on us like
we're just a little, you know, marble in the sky
or something like that. Sterling seven hundred WLW back on
the Nation Station. Mike d Wall is a space flight
and tech channel editor for space dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Welcome back to the Big One. How are you? How's everything?

Speaker 10 (01:25:38):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:25:41):
Doing good?

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
I'm doing all right. I'm excited and I'm not even
going to space. Did I see this correct? That they
have okayed now everything to get that Falcon nine rocket
back up into apparently bringing I think it was the
twelfth crew up to the International Space Station this coming week.

Speaker 17 (01:25:59):
Yes, the yeah, yeah, the FAA had had grounded the
Falcon IM for about four days. It had an issue
during a launch on Monday, which which went okay, you know,
it got it was it was it was like a
launch that that got some some guess of like SpaceX's
that it's they're they're like starlingk statellites went up and
that that all went fine. But the that the rocket

(01:26:22):
didn't do it's the orbit burn as planned. So it's
just that was it was a problem with the upper
stage and so the fa man died an investigation to
see what happened, and and then yeah, so it was
grounded for like four days. But that's that's all been
taken care of now and it's it's back and it's
like ready to launch on on this coming Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Actually nice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Now how long does it take? I'm always mystified by
this because you know, we're young enough to have missed
like that, you know, astronauts, So going to the Moon
initially and how the whole world basically stopped the watch
and I think it was today if I'm not mistaken.
They actually played golf on the Moon back in the day.
As well.

Speaker 17 (01:26:59):
Right, yeah, I think so that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
So so how long once they launch does it take
because they don't just like fly directly, Like if I'm
going from here to Chipotle, I'm on the way, it's
not quite the same going to the space station.

Speaker 17 (01:27:15):
Yeah, it's it's gonna take it. There are kind of
different routes, and it like depends when you launch, and
there's there's like a quick route that you can get
there in like like I don't know, three to four
hours like that. Like you see that with some of
the Soviet launches or in the olden days, as some
of the Russian launches. Today you can get up there
with just like you can catch up to the space
station within like two orbits of Earth basically each and

(01:27:37):
like each orbit takes about ninety minutes, but it's more
common for SpaceX they actually usually do a trajectory where
they catch up in like six hours. Okay, so yeah,
they'll they'll they'll sort of orbit Earth about four times
and then get there within six hours or so.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Gotcha, Mike dy Wall by the way, from space dot Com.
With Sterling on the big one, there's been some scheduling.
They're going to do a moonshot. That basically is, these
astronauts are getting to the International Space Station shortly thereafter. Right,
that massive Artemis two rocket is expected to be going
sooner than later up and sort of looping around the
mood in preparation for getting back to that big of

(01:28:14):
the thing up there that sort of keeps our oceans moving, right.

Speaker 17 (01:28:18):
Yeah, so that's a little bit more kind of we
aren't quite sure what's happening with the Artemis two mission.
They're currently targeting early in March for that launch, and yeah,
that's gonna be a really big deal. That's it's gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
It'll be the.

Speaker 17 (01:28:31):
First mission with astronauts on board to go to the
realm of the moons. It's Apollo seventeen back in nineteen
seventy two. They aren't gonna orbit the Moon or land
on the Moon. They're going to do like a fly around,
like sort of a fly by, and they'll use the
Moon's gravity to sort of sling shot themselves back to Earth.
So yeah, but that's we don't know yet. There hasn't

(01:28:53):
been an official target dat amounts. They were they were
actually targeting this this weekend like originally, but they but
they did a fueling test like about a week ago
and found some there. They're like, like, there is a
leak with the rocket that they would with repellent in
the rocket that they're trying to fix, and so they're
gonna they're gonna do another fueling test probably in the

(01:29:14):
coming week or so and see if they fix the leak,
and if they have, then they'll probably target early March
for that mission, which will be Yeah, it'll be like
it'll be a really big deal and it'll be the
first astronaut flight of the Space Launch System rocket, that
giant new Moon rocket, and if everything goes well with
that mission, then they'll gear up for a Moon landing
mission in like twenty twenty eight or so.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Wow, that's pretty amazing. Mike d.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Walls of space Flight and Techa Channel letter for space
dot Com was Stirling on the big one? Has anyone
else actually been on the Moon? I mean, would China
did a while back on the side that's sort of obscured, right,
that was not actual like human beings on there, that
was like a rover or something or Am I wrong?

Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:29:54):
No, it would like, yeah, they were the first ones
to land any kind of spacecraft on the lunar far
side that it was, Yeah, like it was a robotic
land there. The only people to have ever land on
the Moon. There there have been a total of twelve
people to walk on the Moon and they were off
the Apollo program from the late sixties to the early seventies.
So yeah, we haven't even sent anybody beyond lower orbit

(01:30:17):
since nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
That's an amazing thing. And Mike, I'm kind of curious.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
So the idea is get back to the Moon and
then as we've discussed before, apparently maybe having a moon
base of sorts, like a almost like a hub at
an airport where you would then get to the next place,
whether it's Mars or or wherever else and doing whatever
else they set out to do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Is that correct?

Speaker 17 (01:30:40):
Yeah, So that's the main difference between the Apollo program
and what MASSA is doing now with this new Artist program.
Like the Apollo program was all about beating the Soviet
Union to the Moon as a show of sort of
technological superiority during the Cold War, this is sort of
more to do a space race with China, but it

(01:31:01):
still has has different aims. Like the Artemis program wants
to set up a moon base. You know, like the
Apollo astronauts didn't really do anything on them and they
didn't build anything. There were no habitats on the Moon.
They just landed and they took some rocks and did
some science work and then went home.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
I just love the way they just played some golf,
they took some rocks, they got some sand, you know,
I mean, they were just sort of like there for them.
It was like me going to spring break the first
time without a hangover again.

Speaker 17 (01:31:28):
Yeah, and that's that's not what the science they did.
We're still learning stuff about the Moon from the Apollo
samples all these years later.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
That's amazing.

Speaker 17 (01:31:37):
That kind of rock collecting wasn't was really valuable stuff.
But what, yeah, what Artemist wants to do is much
more ambitious. They actually want to set up one or
more bases near the moon South Pole, where there's a
lot to be a lot of water ice in the
craters and the floors of craters there that's been building
up for like four and a half billion years because
it's some constant shadow. And they yeah, they basically want

(01:31:59):
to to take a crack at like real offer of
living on another world and if they're able to do
that in the twenty thirties. Then the thinking is, Okay,
now we know how to do it, we'll try it
out on the Moon, and then we'll take that knowledge
and take it even farther afield to Mars. And that's
sort of that's the Gold Masses working on like sort

(01:32:20):
of like a moon to Mars. That's like that kind
of program where you take what you learn at the
Moon where which is only about three days away from Earth,
and there's some kind of wiggle room if something goes wrong,
you can can maybe get back to Earth and time,
or you can like resupply them and stuff like that.
But you like, you really want to get all those
kings worked out before you try to do something like
that on Mars, which takes like sixty eight months to

(01:32:41):
get to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah, that's a fairly dedicated endeavor, it's not. And I
think I've taken longer to drive across the country than
what we're talking about to get to you know elsewhere.
Now off the Terra Firma, which is an amazing thought
to me, and without stopping to go to the bathroom,
And how do they handle that? I always get people
who ask me and then I'm reluctant to say because

(01:33:02):
I think I know, but how does that work? It
all goes back to that that one astronaut who decided
to tear off across the country and have a domestic problem.

Speaker 17 (01:33:11):
Right, Yeah, well that that that that's a famous instance
where where where she had like like on the diapers
and everything. She was going to do a stakeout on
this guy that she liked. Yeah, that that was you know,
that was a mental health issue. But yeah, I mean
going going to space, you know, I mean like the
Artemic's two astronauts are going to have like a like

(01:33:32):
they'll have a toilet in the Orion capsule. It's it's
not it's based on the International Space Station toilet actually,
which was basically there's like a kind of there's a
seat you sit on and there's a canister where you
do your number two's, and there's no gravity that kind
of to help it go down, but there's like a
fan that's it like goes down via section and then

(01:33:52):
for for like number ones, there's like a little pose
that you use with like a funnel on the ends
that like, yeah, it's like that also uses airflow to yeah,
to direct It's just one of those things though, Like
we just take things for granted how they work on Earth.
But given something as basically as going to the bathroom,
if you don't have gravity to help the stuff go
or you want to go, it could get ugly pretty

(01:34:14):
quickly if you haven't planned out how to deal with it.
But yeah, yeah, I mean luckily, NASA has got lots
of smart people and they they they long ago figured
out how how to do bathroom stuff in space. Although
like the Apollo astronauts just they basically pooped into into
plastic bags in the Apollo capsule, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Loot bag in it like on a tour bus. No
one does number two on a tour bus if you
can avoid it. That's just not good. I'm telling you.
Mike Ywall from space dot Com was stirling on the
big one. I mean sanitation issues. That is like at
the top of the list. You think about that, but
I mean that's the really what has helped us have
a society and a modern world is sanitation, water, sewage,

(01:34:57):
all these things. But up there out there totally different animal.
I just immediately think of the industrial accident. If things
go wrong with that funnel that you talked about and
what a horrible accident and then have to explain to
the wife or whatever when you come back there was
a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that.

Speaker 17 (01:35:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean these sorts of things, these little
basic things make a big difference when you're talking about
going to Mars right with Like, if like you don't
have those things figured out, then going to Mars for
a year mission, like a year and a half, two years,
maybe that's going to be like a living hell. Yeah,
if you don't have like your your space and your
like every every little thing worked out that they like,

(01:35:38):
they will work hard to get the food right too,
because you know, those those little comforts are so important
psychologically for people who are were isolated, who are away
from their loved ones and all that stuff like that's
that's a really big deal. Like the ability to have
a few creature comforts with you when you're you're there
could make the difference between being happy and healthy and
kind of going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Yeah, I mean, I just think of the need for
for breeze because we've talked about the lovely scent in
space in the you know, the the ISS, which is
the International Space Station for those who are acronymically challenged.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
I'm a fan of the acronym.

Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Something else I want to ask about this because I
find this interesting. We've talked about budget stuff and about
the concern from a lot of scientists, engineers, people involved
with everything that is doing the stuff that we've been
discussing tonight and for some time talking to you, Mike
D Wall from space dot com. Uh, did I read
correctly that there was an announcement by the administrator of NASA, Isaacman,

(01:36:37):
talking about wanting to hire more people after they had
gotten rid of some, but trying to bring them in
house rather than like subcontractors or something.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:36:47):
He he like just put out something today talking about
plans for the future, and it was it was pretty
good news. Basically, like we we like value our engineers
and we want to get more talented not not more
talented people, but more Yeah, there mee more people who
are talented into the fold. And it sort of follows
on from from other good news that we got from Congress.

(01:37:09):
If you're a space fan, it was good news. I
mean they like basically reversed what like the White House's
budget cuts for NASA. He had he had cut NASSA
by about twenty five percent in the Yeah, the budget request,
the federal budget requests, but basically Congress said, no, we
don't want to cut NASSA by that much at all.

(01:37:29):
So they so they basically approved like a flat budget
for NASSA big from from last year to this year.
So those cuts were basically reversed by by Congress. And
so those deep cuts that I think we've talked about
a couple of times on past shows, where there was
going to be this possibility or like the likelihood if
the White House budget cuts went through, the NASA would
have to basically end about forty missions, like including a

(01:37:50):
lot of ones that are active right now at Mars
and beyond. Just shut those those probes down even though
they're they're actively collecting data that's probably not going to happen.
So that's all in the last month or so that
that stuff got firmed up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Gotcha, Well, listen, we always appreciate you being generous with
your time, and I know that you're on the road
now into driving safely, hands free and still sounding good
and disseminating good information and knowledge about space stuff, which
by the way, I don't I don't think I could
do that. So that's why we look to you and
we appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed the weekend. You
got hoops and stuff with the kid this weekend or no, yeah,

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we got we.

Speaker 17 (01:38:27):
Got baseball and basketball ends like football tomorrow, so that
should be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
You've got it all going on. That's amazing, big Super weekend.
And because you live in the Bay or you're an
Ohio guy, but in the Bay Area you can still
be playing baseball, you know, in the first week or
two in February. That's sick and wonderful all at the
same time. I'm not bitter and angry and jealous, No,
not all.

Speaker 17 (01:38:47):
Yeah, no, I'm still on the road because the traffic
we were actually coming back from a basketball game, and
like the traffic with all the people to see the
Super Bowl and stuff, it's just out of control. So yeah,
you just that's that's that's pretty much why I had
to take your call while I was in the car.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Well, I really appreciate it. I don't know that I
would have taken my call in that circumstance. I've driven
in San Francisco, in the Bay Area, Oakland area as well,
and it can be painful, so thank you for navigating
that without like dropping random flying expletives because I'm that
way when I'm alone in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
But that's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
So anyway, enjoy the rest of your weekend. We'll catch
up again soon. It's Mike d. Wall from space dot com.
Take care of yourself, man, We'll do you too.

Speaker 17 (01:39:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Thank you, absolutely, thank you for making time. He's a
good egg.

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Eye Radio to follow back again tomorrow following ken Brew,
we'll talk David Purdham about Super Bowl sixty. That's an
x in and l if you're getting caught up on
your rooman numerals movie stuff, a whole lot of other
is enough to get to on a Saturday, sterling. But
that's Minyana straight away the News. Thank you to Russ Jackson,
a lot of great calls tonight, good guest, and it's

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time for.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Me to exit stage left.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Here home of the Reds in the desert, getting it
done and soon back on the big one because it's
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