Sterling -- 5/16/26

Sterling talks with Dr. Donna Schlagheck about a wide range of political topics, Dr. Amit Govil joins to discuss Organ Transplants, and Kevin Carr joins to discuss the latest in Movies and TV.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Weather and heat and humidity all coming together. Red's on
the road in Cleveland, taking it right up to it
at Sterling hanging out Glader. Long later, Kevin Carr bat
guys at the movies in the Silver Get go on
substack talking about what's new in theaters. Who will also
talk issues of transplantation and kidneys and other stuff. I
know you're like, really what, Yeah, yeah for sure, And

(00:21):
to start, there's a whole lot of ground tocover doctor Donnishleck,
former head of political science at Right State, now Professor
Meredith cincinnatikuidd, Welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
How are you today, nice Sterling doing really well, looking
forward to watching the Reds tonight. They did a good
job against Cleveland yesterday. Enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Then, let's hope they keep that rolling.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I got a question here obviously, we'd like to pick
your brain about political issues and stability internationally. President Trump
obviously coming back stateside, met with she from China. Major summit,
if you will, and not a lot of deals announced.
I know there was talk about Boeing aircraft. I think

(01:04):
the big thing, probably top of the list, is security
for oil access for China from Iran. In the Strait
of Hormons. It seems like it all goes back to that,
how does this look? Is this a good outcome for
the United States with us from what we know?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I wouldn't say the President came home empty handed, but
it was pretty disappointing. Even the Beijing stock market closed
eight percent down after he left. So the big deal,
you know, the issues that the Chinese have put real
pressure on us, the rare earth minerals for example, and

(01:41):
certainly you know she promised no equipment to Iran, but
he didn't say there would be no intelligence assistance, you know,
satellite reconnaissance. There was not a big announcement for purchasing soybeans,
which would be immensely an immense relief to American farmers.

(02:02):
And I think what saddered to me is that this
reminded me of Nixon's first trip to China, you know,
opening it up the openings to Russia. And one thing,
if China is the great rising power it says it is,
that might have been an opportunity for President Trump and
Marco Rubio to say, perhaps, now you know, an initiative

(02:25):
in which we could both benefit might be taking a
look at major arms control issues and that would that
would begin a process of engaging with China that doesn't
necessarily you know, mentioned Taiwan, but could acknowledge China's rising status.
We heard this over and over again in the Chinese media.

(02:48):
You know, us declining for you know, China rising, well,
States rise and fall. But to assume that the United
States is on the decline, in believe, I thought it
showed tremendous arrogance underlying the hospitality and all of the
pomp and circumstance that was offered to the president. I

(03:12):
do not think he brought home a good deal. And
on the flight home he had to be reacting to
Iran's latest proposal, which I'm smiling ironically says it has
plans for discussing how commercial craft that want to go
through the Straits of Hormones will be paying their fees

(03:33):
to Iran. That's where the talks are right now. Not good.
You know, the importance of the nuclear program that you know,
opening of the Straits of Hormo's. President Trump did not
enlist any substantial, any substantial assistance from China. I think

(03:54):
the Chinese are going to let us fit and stew
for some time, even if there weren't any major new
trade deals offered. This was real strong on performance and
very very sadly light on real content for American national interest.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Doctor Donna Schlike, by the way, as the former head
of political science now professor Ameredith from Right State, She's
Cincinnati kid. Here was Stirling on seven hundred Wow talking
about President Trumpe and she from China their big meeting.
There are a couple of things here, and there's a
lot that obviously has been going on for a long time.
One of the things I got to wonder about is
it in the midst of this in what has been

(04:38):
very costly with the shutdown of In the talk, as
you just made allusion to tolls getting through the straight
of horror moves in the blockade that we have on
Iran and their vessels and those that they're trying to
sell their oil to. Their number one, of course customer
is China. Have we learned possibly strategically, if things were
to get really, really nasty, that we we have the

(05:00):
ability to basically effectively shut down China's access to a
great deal of their oil. There has been talked that
the US will sell them more in the midst of
this and maybe long term, but strategically militarily if there
is a going to be a much bigger conflict that
we hope to avoid. Obviously, did we learn something maybe

(05:21):
positively about being able to shut them down because they're
military and everything else can't run on batteries.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, they've already pivoted to begin increasing what they're bringing
in directly from Russia, which has also had its sanctions
on oil sales lifted. Yeah, so there are alternative supplies.
Obviously they have massive storage. But it is it's clearly
a pressure point. I mean, there's no arguing that. But

(05:49):
all of the economies which intensely consume energy are all suffering.
Of course, the latest inflation report for Americans says it's
up to three point eight percent. The scary number though,
that I heard economius mentioning, was that wholesale prices are
up six percent, and you know that always gets passed
on to the end consumer, right at the retail level.

(06:13):
So the pressures, Yeah, the pressures here. You know, there's
talk about lifting you know, a gas tax, but that's
that is that is the tiniest band aid on a
big problem. You know, that would cost the Highway Fund money,
like we don't need to maintain our highways, and they
would probably have to have that compensated. You know, Congress
would have to do something to restore their budgets. That's

(06:36):
performance that is not really speaking to the pressure that
people feel every time they have to fill up their tank.
Uh and when when when they buy groceries. You know,
those two points that Americans do on a very regular basis,
reopening the streets and some program and an arms control

(06:56):
program that could also include returning Iran to the Non
Liferation Treaty. That's that high level at which you include
the Security Council, most especially though China, you know, their
biggest oil customer and supplier of quite a bit of
technology too.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Those two points we did.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Not make a visible dent in our problems. The Chinese,
I think have They've made quite an example of standing
up to Terra They returned you know, the cutoff on
rare earth they have. They basically haven't flinched this. This

(07:37):
was and it's not as though China doesn't have many
of its own internal problems, housing, unemployment, and aging population.
You know, it's a long list. If you want to
call yourself a rising power, the more you know about China,
the more you realize there's a lot of fragility there
as well. But if she wanted to show hospitality and

(08:00):
toughness and he did not bend. He pushed President Trump
quite hard on Taiwan. There's a lot of anxiety in
the States about, you know, would we make a concession there.
He made no concession, but he does have to come
home and work on whether or he's going to approve
that massive fourteen billion dollar arms sale to Taiwan. Taiwan

(08:21):
doesn't go away. It's been part of every American Chinese conversation.
You know, both are great global powers. Yeah, but Taiwan
is their back yard absolutely, and you've probably noticed.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I was just going to ask it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It is very close, it is, obviously, And that's one
of the other things. So there's the issue of Taiwan
with China and Ukraine with Russia. And we have pulled
troops from Germany for whatever reason, and maybe more coming,
and there was an announcement about Poland and troops drawing
down there. So there's a lot of moving pieces to
this ongoing sort of resetting of the global hierarchy of

(08:59):
power and allies and what moves ahead probably for a
generation or more ahead or am I off base?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh, at least a generation. I think the presence of
the Secretary of War Pete Hess on this delegation, if
only to observe, you know, was a very important gesture,
both to our national security as well as to his
continuing tutorial as the Secretary of Defense or war, whatever

(09:30):
you prefer to call him. But yes, that resetting and
what we aren't seeing is what came decades ago with
the Russians. Find a place it could be an arms control,
it could be the UN, it could be someplace else.
Find some venue in which to work with the Chinese.
The one area there's been encouraging at least conversation is

(09:54):
how do we work together on trying to put some
guardrails around AI, whether at your economy, whether it's your
defense establishment. You know, the impacts. We're just now beginning
to take stock of how massive the impacts are going
to be. So there's a check plus beside the AI conversation.
But in terms of a big trade deal, help with Iran,

(10:18):
help with arms control or the nuclear aspect of Iran,
this was not a massively successful trip.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I have to ask doctor Donaschelkes, a former had of
political science. By the way, at writes states, she's not
professor Meredith Sterling here seven hundred w WELW other things.
And then there's so much going on reports about and
Trump spoke on this about the Islamic State group leader
apparently killed by the US and Nigerian forces and a
mission going after terrorists. So that is a good bit

(10:47):
of news. Also, are you surprised at where we are
in the midst of this with Iran and either sleeper
cells or sympathizers and so forth, and so many other
terror groups that we have. Are we not seeing seemingly
a lot domestically or aside from in the Middle East region,

(11:08):
more stuff bubbling up of concern regarding terrorism.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think we in Israel both you know, continue to
pursue particularly Islamic extremism. But here domestically and and certainly
in Europe, one of the real disturbing aspects has been
the rise of a lot of anti Semitic violence. You know,
we've seen just want one synagogue attack after another, you know,

(11:35):
trying to burn the governor's mansion, et cetera. Those numbers
are very troubling, particularly at a domestic level, So that
problem not doesn't go away, but it is taking on
domestically here for Americans a particularly troubling focal point that
of course brings us back to, you know, the Gaza

(11:57):
situation and how it's just tremendously changed public opinion towards,
you know, toward Israel. You know, the decline and popular
support for Israel and the United States is massive, and
it's measurable. You mentioned Ukraine and Russia earlier. Don't you
find that there is the most interesting parallel between the

(12:20):
Russians being unable to beat bully h Ukraine into submission
and the US, now with its massive abilities, is unable
to make Iran bend asymmetrical. Yeah, but but both of
us now have this much smaller opponent who have found

(12:41):
ways to resist us. I mean, for the Russians, it's
going on, you know, four years plus. The Ukrainians haven't
given in, and I don't think given what the Iranians
have most recently communicated, we're seeing much give the IRGC
the you know, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is in charge
of these negotiations. From the look of what we've been

(13:03):
you know, the proposals we've been getting The Pakistani Interior
Minister is in Iran right now talking about the next
phase of proposals. But I think it's probably extremely predictable
that President Trump will reject this latest proposal, which basically
Iran wants to be taxing the Straits of Hormuz. We

(13:24):
have to get back to that old global attitude of
the free movement of commercial traffic everywhere. Nobody can put
a toll on an open, you know, international waterway, and
without some additional pressure, which China did not seem to
be willing, at least publicly to bring to bear on Iran.

(13:46):
China obviously needs the oil flow restored, but we saw
no give on that, at least at this point. It
may take multiple more realms of talks. We're in that
formatic phase. Fortunately. My real question is how much patience
is the American public going to show.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I have a final question here.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
We only have about a minute or so left, doctor Slack,
and I've had a number of people ask me in
a couple just messaging me here during So the asking
then is what about ground troops and are we able
to get over that hump to actually get something done
effectively there? Because the strait is clearly to a great
extent under control of with mining or otherwise or the
threat of it. And the cost of insurance for all

(14:28):
these cargo containers and those bringing oil as well as
other supplies and so forth from the Persian Gulf through
the straight of horror moves is pretty well locked up
right now. So what is the out of this, if
any If they're not going to back down, we would
have to then push them down, correct.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I always want to hold open the possibility of another option,
and I do not want to underestimate how much pressure
the Chinese might be willing to bring on Iran. I
you know, I've studied since the Vietnam War the role
of public opinion and Congress, and a ground operation is

(15:12):
going to bring into the most intense focus a ground
operation in Iran for both Congress and the American public.
This is the point. This is the time at which
needing to prepare the public and lay the groundwork in
Congress for support of that ultimate option, should we need it.

(15:33):
I do not. I have no confidence that the public
or Congress are going to be extremely supportive of a
ground operation. You know, where much of President Trump's supporters
felt they've always felt about long term, you know, forever wars,
another Middle East ground operation, uh, with the you know

(15:57):
the massive and vulnerable energy in phasis structure that rings
every country. You know that that pump soil and sits
on the gulf. The damage could be years, if not decades,
if if we go that direction. The Saudis and the
Emirandis have actually run a few operations, retaliatory operations against Iran.

(16:18):
They've been kept pretty quiet. But what you are suggesting
really is you know that line of death. Yeah, it
will be the it will be our test as a
public and for Congress. We'll see if they will get
behind it.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
We'll have to find out. There's the issue of declaration
of war powers. And there's also the idea of the
fact that if we otherwise back down, how if it's
not allowing tolls, then it's still going to be effectively
shut down until who knows when we are out of time.
I love talking to you and getting into your head
in the perspective the experience and the insights that you
have to share. Thank you for being generous with your

(16:53):
time today. We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Good talking to you.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It is the lovely the talented and the super well
in form for we're head of political science at Wright State,
doctor Donna Schlehek, now Professor Merida was Sterling straight away.
We'll talk donations, kidneys, transplants, movies for the weekend, and
a whole lot more including Reds baseball ahead, taking on
those Guardians up in Cleveland on your home or your
Reds with Sterling seven hundred double LW smalls for your

(17:19):
day the tri State summer around the corner starting to
get a little more humid, the rain came early, the
heats in front of us Reds on the road in
Cleveland to take on the Guardians Saturday, Sterling seven hundred
double WELW. If you're like me, you have friends, you
have family, You care about them, if you want to
help them if something bad happens. And from time to time,

(17:39):
our pieces and parts internally don't always do what we
hope them to do, which is function and keep us
living well as long as possible. Sometimes they break down.
And in the University of Cincinnati you see health. We
have one of the most prolific programs of living donor
transportation basically in her Transportation and Transport ROA in the

(18:01):
country effectively. And doctor, I mean Gobel, welcome to seven
hundred WLW. You are a doctor, physician and actually apparently
one of my buddy Brian's doctors, which I was unaware
of when we booked you.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
How are you, sir?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Thank you, Thank you for having me over here.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
So absolutely, how big is the need for living donors
and donors in general, because I am bewildered in the
last five to ten years people around me, people I know,
young and old, as well as seemingly a lot more
dialysis businesses have popped up from facilities all over the

(18:36):
tri State, the Miami Valley, as I understand it, around
the country. So there's some major problems with kidneys apparently.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Absolutely Again, kidney is a kidney disease is a very
silent disease, and that's one of the challenges we face.
That our body is a wonderful piece of machinery and
it works in sync for all our life, but then
there are that can go wrong and we don't get
to know of it till it becomes too late. So

(19:04):
when we look at the kidney disease, almost one in
nine people are at risk for kidney disease, So that's
a big number for some sort of kidney disease. That
does not mean kidney failure, but it just means that
they may have some area of kidney disease which may
manifest on the blood test or pretty much is asymptomatic.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
When it comes to.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
End stage kidney disease, almost three quarter of a million
of people are on end stage kidney dialysis and almost
one hundred thousand people are waiting on the kidney transplant list,
and out of that only around twenty five to twenty
seven thousand people get a kidney transplant every year. So

(19:48):
as you can see, there is a whole pipeline of
how things get narrowed down, and out of those lucky
twenty seven twenty eight thousand people every year, only six
to seven thousand people are able to get it through
a living donor, and the rest are just waiting for
a deceased organ which may or may not come. So
for almost three fourth of the patients who are on

(20:09):
the list, they never get to see a kidney come
to them every year, and that clock is ticking against them,
so it's a race against time, and they're all waiting
for a gift of life. So a living kidney donation
is a gift of life that we all look forward to,
and obviously that's the greatest gift that one can give
or get.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Doctor Ahmagovo is the University of Cincinnati UC Health organ
Donation Program chief. If I'm not mistaken or one of
those in control of placing and changing out, I guess
the pieces in parts that fail. The living program is
an interesting thing. My buddy Brian when he was dealing
with his trauma with his kidney and I found out

(20:51):
something timing wasn't good for me to do it, and
he ended up having a donor that gave the gift
of life upon their passing, which I've agreed to do
of course with my driver's license. But for a lot
of people, it is an opportunity to be able to
help a friend, a family member, or someone even you
don't know. But it's a challenging thing. It's a lot
to work for What do you tell someone who's in

(21:12):
a situation where someone they know or maybe even someone
they don't, maybe in need and they're considering maybe seeing
if in fact they can test to be qualified to
be able to even make that type of offer to
give someone an opportunity to stay here longer and live better.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
So one of the things when I talk to someone
who may be willing to consider being a donor, I
always reassure them that just because they show an interest
does not mean that they will end up being a donor.
So they have to be reassured that yet only when
they have been screened and they are medically perfect to

(21:51):
give up a kidney, only then they'll become a donor.
So a donor in general is otherwise a healthy individual. Again,
there are few medical conditions that may not even impact
donating a kidney, and this is where their whole medical
evaluation comes into play. But the kidney donation is.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
A very safe surgery.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
The very first kidney donation and the world happened in
nineteen fifty four, and that individual lived another fifty five
years and died pretty much of old age. And they
have come a long way from nineteen fifty four to
twenty twenty six where we are, so kidney donation surgery
is very safe. The kidney donors generally recover very fast

(22:33):
because they're otherwise healthy individuals.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
They have good and better.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Long term outcomes, partly because they are well taken care
of and they they take care of themselves, and they
pretty much have when compared to general population that actually
their survival is better and their quality of life in
general is better because of who they are, and they're
good Samaritans who take care of themselves and the sort

(23:00):
of a role model, if I may say, for all
of us out there, of the society in general. So
a living kidney donor, in my opinion, is on the
top of the society that we live in in terms
of being a role model and an altruistic person.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Doctor Roma Goebels, you see health or organ donation program.
Doc talking to Sterling seven hundred WLW, my buddy Brian,
who will talk to in a few moments, and some
others who maybe have already been through this. Another family
friend some years ago ended up with a liver transplant,
you see. I don't think that's one of those things
you can give up a liver, you know, and just

(23:40):
keep going. But there are amazing things that you guys
do there, whether it's liver, eye, skin, I mean, you
name it. It's not just kidneys that you plug in
and take out as needed and so forth. To how
does the liver thing work? Because somebody told me, and
I don't know about this. I'm not a doctor. I
don't want to play one on the radio.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Even a segment of a liver is one of those
things that can somehow be utilized in this type of process.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
In part? Is that correct or?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Am I absolutely? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Absolutely, Again, this is the beauty of signs that has
progressed to the point where we can now take a
segment of the liver and transplanted and the donor who
gives up the liver does absolutely fine. Again, it is
I don't want to downplay the surgery itself. So absolutely,
they have to be screened, they have we have to

(24:31):
make sure that they are otherwise healthy individuals, and they
recover very well.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
And the person who gets that.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Liver is able to to do well with that amount
of liver. And and the beauty of liver is compared
to the kidney is that it regenerates much faster compared
to compared to the kidney. So definitely, although we just
have one liver, but we can definitely spare a part
of the liver to to help someone live.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Uh, Doctor goldbel I'm kind of curious how many, because
I want to make sure I process this correctly, and
I've heard it, and then I read it, and then
it was seeming astounding to me that almost daily you
are transplanting organs at the University of Cincinnati. There are
other programs around the country, but that seems incredibly a

(25:19):
high number of individuals living through this and thriving subsequently.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Is that accurate? About one a day, give or take.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
One a day would be accurate if you put kidney
and liver transplants together. Yes, one transplant a day at
the University of Cincinnati is what's happening. Which may be
a living donor, which may be a diseased donor coming
from the list, but yes, combined together both the organs,
we do at least one a day on an affect.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's an amazing thing. And how far it's come since
the fifties and when this whole thing sort of started.
What do you tell someone right now who maybe doesn't
have someone they personally know who may be need of transplantation,
but as interested in maybe wanting to offer you the
gift of life effectively while they're still here. Do they

(26:08):
reach out to douseeehealth dot com and try to find
that way There is a Living Program. I know there's
a form sort of like a screener that you can
fill out and talk to people. Is that how the
best way to go about it?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Absolutely? So there are many ways. Again, these are what
we as I was referring to good Samaritans and who
are always there. And for a recipient who's looking out
for someone, I always say that there are good people
around who may be willing to donate. So all you
have to do is just make your efforts to find someone.
And for people who want to donate, the best thing

(26:43):
that they can do is is get in touch with
you see Health Kidney Transmit program. So the best way
would be just again, I can give a phone number
which is five one three five eight four seven zero
zero one, or just reach out to the UC health
website and there is it leads to the transplant site
and or if not, then you see health main number

(27:05):
and just ask them to connect to the Transcend program
and one can leave a message and someone from our
team will will reach out to them and guide them
through the process.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
And this is again want.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
To reassure that yes, the whole medical screening is done
ahead of time. And when I use some analogies I
always say that I may want to become an astronaut today,
but I am not an astronaut till I'm actually screened and.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Cleared and ready to go.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
So same thing for a donor, and again, it's a
gift of life, and it's totally under their process, which
is that they.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Can withdraw it any time.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
So that's a reassurance I always give that just because
they said yes at the beginning does not mean that
they have to have to give up. It's an altruistic
process and we totally respect their confidence in that process.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, we really appreciate what you do. It as a miracle,
it really is. I'm looking at my buddy Brian across
the console with me and whether he'd be here or
have a different quality of life than he has now.
And I know that unknowingly we found out that you
were one of his doctors, doctor Gobl. We'll talk to
him in a little bit. Thank you for doing what
you do, and hopefully we'll raise some awareness and get
some people maybe involved, whether it's as a living donor

(28:18):
or us on the way out to be able to
bring the gift to anybody else who's in need. Thank
you for doing what you do now.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
And last thing I would say is that the living donation,
not only compared to deceased donor, is a gift of life,
but it also increases the duration of life for an
individual because the life of a living donor kidney is
almost double that of.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
That one that comes from the list.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
So it's a.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Big gift of life.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
So just want to be thankful to everyone who's even
considering it.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
There you go, doctor Ahmad Govil, you see health organ
Donation program doc with Stirling on the Big One. Thank
you for your time and doing what you do. I
hope you have a great afternoon and we'll talk to
some people who've been through this on the other side.
Take care of yourself. Check, thank you, thank you appreciated.
We got Taylor, my buddy Brian, some others coming up.
Your chance to be heard. If you have done this,
if you've been a recipient, maybe you've given five point

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three seven four nine seven eight hundred the Big One
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk to Taylor, Brian,
others as well. Kevin Carr, Silver Gecko on Subtack, Substack,
talking movies later, Mark Sheldon All before the Reds and
the Guardians get outed here on a Saturday sterling seven
hundred WLW.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
The minister at church asked me to just lip sync
the heymns. When I go to the gym. I can
hear the trainers giggling, and my.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Parents told me not to bother giving them any more grandchildren.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Heling hanging out.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
My buddy Brian and uh Taylor on the line in
a moment, just talk to doctor Amagovil from UCE Health
about living organ transplantation and how critical that need is,
not just on the way out upon our passing as
an organ donor on your driver's license. Let me talk
to my buddy Brian, and then we'll get Taylor on
and I guess maybe we can conference both Taylor or
how are you you?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Okay? Well, goodell, welcome to the big one.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
So Taylor, you're here with I buddy Brian who's on
Mike four, and Uh you worked with him in some
fashion in the midst of this process as far as
him getting a kidney, which he's rolling with three instead
of two, which at the time when we figured this out,
I was surprised. I thought they yanked the bad one out.
They just kept it in like a series of batteries.
What do you do and explain a little bit about

(30:26):
the program. Get about two minutes or so?

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Is all.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah, I am a transplant wellness coach, so I help
other fellow recipients who are dealing with mental and emotional
challenges post transplant that nobody really talks about. And my
unique experience of being a nurse and a livery recipient,
I truly understand what people are going through and I'm
able to talk about things that the doctors themselves don't

(30:52):
understand because they haven't been through it.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So, you you had a transplanted liver, which is sort
of like one of my family friends, Teresa.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
So did they give you peace in park or how
did that work? Andy?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Here's the thing I've always wanted to ask, and I
don't think i've ever asked. My buddy Brian, do you go, hey,
would you like to see my scar? Because I think
that'd be a great story to tell.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
So I received a portion of my cousin's liver, so
I believe it was about seventy percent of her liver
they gave to me.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Cool, So that thirty percent still allows her to be
able to have it grow and rejuvenate and then also
gives you the gift of life too, which is amazing.
That's tremendous.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
So, Brian, what was that an about that?

Speaker 8 (31:34):
I was just going to say that the livers regenerate
within six to eight weeks of after transplant, So both
her and I deliver were ninety five percent of the
normal size liver eight weeks after I transplant.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
What amazing thing the body and science and God above
whatever it is that it sort of puts us here
and keeps us going. I think that's spectacular. You didn't
answer the scar thing, do you like? Do you tell
do you have friends or whatever? You want to see
my scar? Because I would totally be because women love scars.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
They love them. Actually, I've never.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Really asked that, though some people have asked me, and
I will show them, but.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
Not so much when you start to say, Brian, the
the kidney scar is a little bit smaller than you
would get with the liver, and believe it or not,
mine is pretty much.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
It's really hard to see at this point, is it really?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You're not asking your wife said, hey, did you check
out my scar? No scratch you a little bit of that?
What's it like going with three. I have to ask
that because that was one of the things that shocked
me when we were talking about you getting your stuff
done and someone was kind enough to give everything to
you effectively with your life, and it was scary for
all of us. But then then I found out you
got like a series of kidneys working in there like batteries. Yep, yep,

(32:40):
just extra work to take to take the bad ones out,
and they just splice it in right beside the right
beside the old ones.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
So I do indeed have three kidneys.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's a crazy thing. And another friend of ours had
a bad one. They didn't replace it with a new
one that was donated, and he's rolling with just one,
which is certainly possible too, which is where the living
donor program comes come in. Brian, any anything that we
did not ask talking to doctor govil or with Taylor
at this point only got about a minute or so.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Really, I just I just want to say how much
Taylor and I both appreciate our our donors. Obviously, Taylor's
donor was her cousin, and my donor was just a
man or woman on the street that said yes in
the license bureau and I'm sitting here today.

Speaker 9 (33:25):
Heard to them.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm pretty amazed by it and uh feel fortunate and
grateful about it too. Okay, I can see you're about
to break up, breakdown on the club when you cry
do it?

Speaker 7 (33:35):
No, just kidding, it's it's you just can't imagine that
the gratefulness that that you have, well you getting up
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
So yeah, I mean your quality of life and the
fact that you do have life, which is I mean,
that's what we're all grateful for, Taylor, same for you
with with your cousin too. It's in a pretty amazing thing.
How can people reach out to you to maybe find
out more about this process if they're thinking about maybe
giving uh you know as a living donor uh, some
piece part of themselves?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Taylor.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Yeah, I am on Instagram and Facebook, and my Instagram
and Facebook handle is Buyer Integrative Wellness.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It'll be why r e r Integrative Wellness. And that's
where I talk.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
About my entire transplant story and just talk about the
mental and emotional side and just try to help other recipients.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
That's fantastic right now, that's where you can find me.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Great.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm starving to have more time we'll have to do
this again, but I wanted to get the doc on
in different perspectives, from all viewpoints to recipients and others,
and donating into somebody doc who's putting them in and
taking them out, which is pretty amazing too.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Taylor, thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (34:38):
Yeah, thank you so much for having us.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Absolutely, we'll talk to you soon. Brian, thank you, thanks
for having me.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I'm glad you're here, and I'm thankful that somebody did
as I did, which is at least on the way
out being able to give what you can give too,
which is tremendous. And again it's at ucehealth dot com.
You can find out more about the UC health organ
donation program. Four o'clock reports straightaway, latest on everything going
on around planet and more sterling come up, including Kevin
Carr talking movies, Mark Sheldon MLB dot com talking Reds
and more. Here home of those RETZ News Radio seven

(35:06):
hundred DOUBLELW Cincinnati Truth Rivalry Weekend, Major League Baseball, Mark
Sheldon from MLB dot com and.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Join you during the RNL Carriers.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Inside this chapter five Kevin Carr, Silber Gecko and Substack
talking new movies.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I think this movie of the week is obsession.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
If I'm not mistaken, which I thought was a cologne
or a perfume and maybe both. We'll pick his head
at about a half hour or so, and now good
bit of ground to cover just after four. If you're
keeping score at home and not listening to the podcast
on the iHeartRadio app on a random Thursday, this would
be Saturday at four to nine Eastern time. Glad you're here.

(35:44):
A good bit of ground to cover. I want to
touch on a few things, but talking about the kidney
transplantation thing or Living Oregon donation you see, which they
lead the way on basically around the country, one of
several locations, but they do incredible work. Is hit close
to me with one of my friends, Brian. You may
have heard earlier Taylor, who is his transplant coach or

(36:06):
one of those who does that for other people. And
she does some stuff too, So you can look at
buyer Taylor there on Instagram and find her in relation
to that, and that's ju seehealth dot com of course.
But all of a sudden, a whole lot of people
have been calling about this too, so we'll give you
a chance to sort of sound off and then we'll
talk about when you're in a business in an issue

(36:26):
of being robbed in some stuff with that too, and
how not maybe to deal with somebody burglarizing or robbing
or whatever else that goes with it. But first let's
get to a couple of these people have been holding
for a while. Let's see, we got Jack and then
Aaron and Mike and others. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,
eight hundred the big one. Now, Jack, it says here

(36:46):
you actually received a transplant? Did you get a kidney?
Or what did you get at? You see Jack?

Speaker 10 (36:53):
Back in July ninety four, I get a kiddie bankers.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Okay, so and you're talking that's thirty years ago, if
my basic math right, thirty two years.

Speaker 10 (37:01):
Yes, the kid and you'll be thirty two years is
coming to your life.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
That's amazing, and no problems.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Are you like my buddy Brian? Are you rolling with three?
Or one or two?

Speaker 10 (37:11):
I have three kid these and three pancreases, three pancreas. Yeah,
the original and the first transplant failed after six years.
I was an instant dependent diabetic. Again, Okay, I gotta
do something about this. And then they gave me a
pankre so only transplant in two thousand and four, and
of April this year, I've had my transplant pancreas for

(37:32):
twenty two years. I've not had a shot influence since
able the first of two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Wow, that's amazing. Now, how difficult was it? Because I'm
talking to my buddy Brian when he was in need
and not sure how things were gonna go. What is
that experience like when you know that you're in need
of a vital organ that is affecting not just quality
of life, but maybe your life survival, and then in wait,

(37:59):
whether it's a living town or someone who has passed away.
I mean, can you put that into words? Because I
know how it is caring about a friend who is
like a family member in that situation, but not in
your shoes, I cannot imagine.

Speaker 10 (38:11):
Well, it's I was very blessed. Mine came from a
deceased donor because of again, the pankers. My first thought,
I'm a kiddies were failing. The doctor said, you've got
a few options. Said okay, well what are they? He said,
you can do nothing and die a slow and visual life.
I said, okay, you can go on dialysis and prolong

(38:32):
your life. But it's not fun. I said, okay. He said,
you can have a transplant. I said, okay, sign me up.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
He said kidney.

Speaker 10 (38:41):
First thing he said, it's fairly new at the time
was the kidney pankers.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I said.

Speaker 10 (38:45):
I was a diabetic since I was seventeen years old.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I said, okay.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
I had like, why I go about doing this with
all the testing, and I did, and certainly, I tell
you what thing about it. I've been blessed by God
in more ways than I can even imagine. I never
missed a beat. I worked full time during dialysis. I
stayed up with dialysis for about five months, with diet exercise,

(39:10):
and then it just it's when you find out when
you have a transplant, with the list every time the
phone range to think to them, you know, calling about
the kidney, calling anybody transplant. But when it finally came,
I knew it was I knew it was them when
they called it, I knew it. And I went on
from there.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I've heard that from a few people. I'm glad you're here,
and I appreciate you sharing the story. It is miraculous
to me one what they can do to keep us
here and have a quality of life, and what we
can do to give to share, either upon our passing
or even as a living donor for some pieces and
parts to be able to do that friend's family or
even complete strangers. Jack, thank you for being a part

(39:50):
of the show and listening and sharing your experience.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Man, thank you very much.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
If anybody I can never help along the last what
I'm here for. This is God bless you with this
is he wants to get past and awesome.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
There you go, Jack, take care of yourself.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
Man.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Thank you. Aaron and Riverside. How are you're with Sterling
on the big one?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So what is your story in situation as far as
transplation is concerned? Plant transplantation is concerned, I do talk
sometimes for a living.

Speaker 11 (40:13):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
What's it like to Jack?

Speaker 11 (40:17):
I'm happy to hear that he's happy and healthy.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 11 (40:21):
I had I had a really close friend of mine
that he was on dialysis and whatever dealing with his issues,
and uh, I just happened to be a match and
I was able to Danny kidney and it was awesome.
And for all the listeners out there, it's a super
easy going procedure. It's not invasive, and I would recommend

(40:43):
if there's someone obviously that you're close to, maybe not
to a stranger, but someone that you're close to, I
would definitely give them that gift because it's I mean,
within I think two days, I walked my dog on
a couple of mile walks, so it was yeah, it
was easy going for me and luckily my friend who

(41:05):
I donated too, as far as I'm concerned, he's doing well.
And again I recommend donation to anyone out there if
you're if you're a good candidate to be able to
help someone, why wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
You absolutely Now, Aaron, I have to ask this is
a weird question because I was asking them earlier about
scars and hey, you want to see my scar or whatever,
because you know people like that. But I got to ask,
how much weight did you lose with the one kidney
taken and donated? Because it's not a major amount of weight,
but I'm just is it significant? Do you notice it?
Or is it not enough where you because it's a

(41:39):
really severe intrusive thing for weight loss.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
It's not the play it well.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
Sterling, I've had on the cops for probably longer than
I should have, and unfortunately I gained weight.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
You gained weight, so you lost a kidney, gain some weight,
but that's our but you're doing well, so that's good.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Well, Eric, thank you so much for donating. I think
that's that's an amazing thing. They'll get me on the
way out, and if somebody fits and qualifies, you never know.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I hope to maybe do it and nothing else.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Your experience and sharing that maybe we'll bring somebody else
to the table too, literally and figuratively to help someone
else stay here and live better longer.

Speaker 11 (42:15):
So Aaron, thanks man, and again an anyone listening, I recommend,
highly recommend do it if you can.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
There you go erin, take care of yourself. Man, thanks
for being on the show. We appreciate it. To Los
Angeles and Mike was Sterling on the Big one. Hey man,
how are you good to hear from me? Sirling you
thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Ye I I'm sorry. I had a situation when I
got back from NOM at the Cincinnati DA in nineteen
seventy eight four. I was there for some third post
post tour surgery and there was a guy that was

(42:55):
in bad shape another veteran that was in bad shape
kidney wise, and I had it's called a horseshoe kidney,
meaning their kidneys are connected versus being separated. I was
born with that. And they asked me, would you like
the it's it's not a you know, it's not a
big deal. We can separate them. You'll be fun. So
I did, and that man and I still talk and

(43:16):
it's been fifty years later. Almost early I didn't. I
didn't notice, I'll tell you quite frankly. The other surgery
I had it was more of a nightmare than them
donating the one kidney after they separated it. So it
was a beautiful thing. Then I had got to help

(43:38):
see when I was in Vietnam, so my liver was
really sick, and uh, I was a carrier, so I
couldn't donate blood for years. You're not allowed to if
you're carrying that virus. Right, And and finally they had
there was an old drug, remember hearing about this called
interfere on.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah, very brutal.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
Drug as far as the side effects, just brutal. And
so I kept waiting and waiting, and they kept saying
they're going to work on some other medagine. They finally
came out with something called harbony. And because I was
ready to have to get a transport liver transplant, and
they came out with this harrbony, I went through the
treatment plan three months later, viral load zero and my

(44:23):
liver's healthier's health And that's.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Something that's an amazing thing. Mike.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I'm glad that it worked out for you that way.
And being able to help someone at the same time,
which is not always the case. I think that's tremendous.
I'm glad you're here. Thanks for listening to being a
part of it. As always the show here on a Saturday, Sterling,
we'll take a quick break, we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I want to mention something.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
If you've ever worked in retail or in a business
situation and somebody has come in and robbed it the
store or shoplifted. You know, in the last couple of years,
there's been so much talk about people coming in in
groups or even solo in shoplifting. You go in and
grow grocery store. Now you want to get like shaving

(45:02):
products or something like that, you know, shaving blades or
what have you, whatever it is associated with that. I
don't do a lot of makeup shopping, but I have
a friends that do, and I know, tagging along with them.
They have had the nightmare of going behind glass and
trying to get one product or another product as I
walk around aimlessly like a lot of us dudes do.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
It's just an amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
So I'm kind of curious what you've dealt with in
the business that you're in, or even while shopping, seeing
people steal stuff, rob or otherwise. And then because the
first inclination or response, there's a visceral reaction that I
had when I worked at the grocery barn and then
later cub Foods as a teenager. Effectively, when someone would

(45:48):
come in and steal, would be to go after them.
And at one time or two I had managers that
would be like, yeah, go get them. And then I
was you know, I saw some people end up fighting
about like getting caught and you know, stealing stuff from
the grocery that I was kind of like, you're not
paying me enough to be a security guard and throw
down with somebody. There are severe dangers engaging people like that.

(46:11):
We'll talk about that on the other side, and your
chance to get interactive as well five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,
eight hundred, the Big One Talk Back, the iHeartRadio app
Quick Break, your chance to speak your mind. It's a
Saturday sterling on seven hundred WLW at least w WELW
four thirty four, about three and a half minutes away
from right about now here on the Nation station. Then

(46:32):
Kevin Carr is gonna join me, so forget go on
substatch talking about new movies, and at Mark Sheldon MLB
dot com gonna join me talking to well during the
RNL carriers inside pitch about Reds and Guardians rivalry week
is we get that Battle of Ohio going on in
the Redge looked to me to get another w here
and start rolling. Uh with the weather change though, Uh
we we've just had showers and some storms earlier high

(46:55):
of just eighty two today, tomorrow eighty six ninety Monday
mid eighties with thunderstorms possible Tuesday. I don't have the
advanced forecast beyond that, but in all seriousness, it's starting
to feel like summer. So hopefully you got your garden
in and if you listen closely, I know I can.
If I listen, that's my grass growing which I just
mowed before the rain and before the heat turns on.

(47:17):
So get ready to mow or buy some goats or something.
I don't know. I would like to do the goat thing.
I have neighbors who have chickens, and I don't eat
a lot of eggs generally. I mean, I like a
for tata on occasion or whatever. But I gotten used
to the chickens, and you know, they do what chickens do.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
But I.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Don't eat a lot of eggs, and they just regularly
I'll just like step out of the house and randomly
they'll be like a dozen or two dozen eggs, which
is nice. What am I supposed to do with all those?
I really, you know, I'm not quite sure how that
necessarily works. The goats would be another. I don't know
what you get with goats other than they would make
maybe eat the grass or the weeds or whatever. I

(48:03):
know when and around the tri State they've done that
in a few parks, And I think you can rent
goats to take care of your lawn.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
But do you want to be that guy? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
You also don't want to be the guy or girl
that does something. In this story from a week or
so ago. The more I think about it, the more
devastated I am about it, in the horrific loss of
the woman who had her life taken from her. As
it's alleged it was a robbery in Lachland at that
auto business of some sort of it's audio supplies or

(48:31):
exactly what it is, and they're still not able to
track down or identify even who would be responsible for
this shooting. But is it then reported. The thing that
stuck with me is that that woman apparently supposedly went
after them after they had done the robbing, and I
hope that God, that's not the case. It's a horrible circumstance.

(48:53):
But I can tell you that when I was working
retail stuff at the grocery store and otherwise, and when
I worked at the hut Putt golf in games, there
were a couple of events where things had happened, one
with shoplifting, others with people doing stuff in the store,
and then somebody like damage to game ones. My first
impulse viscerally, and even at one point at the grocery store,

(49:15):
had been directed go after them, track them down, don't
let them get away. And I'm like sixteen seventeen years old,
eighteen at the time. You don't want to do that
in most stores now, which is why there's been so
much talk about, you know, the rampant shoplifting and stuff.
Is that, unless it's a security guard or otherwise, what
other employee is going to want to put their lives

(49:38):
on the line when people are so quick to the
gun or otherwise. It's a very unnerving, unsettling circumstance. So
it's one of those things I guess you have to
think about everywhere you go, and no matter what you do,
whether you're a customer shopping in a store or someone
behind the counter or otherwise, it's not good. I just

(49:58):
wanted to mention that my heart goes out to family
and hopefully somebody saw something. As they continue to look
for video from surveillance, ring cameras, doorbells, whatever else in
and around that area, hopefully they'll find who is responsible
for taking that woman's life, which is just horrific your
four thirty reports straight ahead, I don't mean to be
the profit of doom. We'll have some fun on the
other side. We'll talk to Kevin Carr, we'll talk weekend movies,

(50:21):
and then we'll kick the door open and get ready
for some Reds baseball. Taken on the Guardians a little
later on as well. So hang out news now Sterling
seven hundred WLW, Saturday afternoons, the Nation station, seven hundred WLW.
What you're listening to, we appreciate it. Glad you're long
hanging out Sterling. Kevin Carr subbur get go on the substack.

(50:41):
He was a chubby to my stick, which is not
a makeup thing. Kevin, by the way, welcome back to
seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
How you doing in.

Speaker 9 (50:49):
I'm no good. How you doing?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I'm doing all right? Have you had this happen to you?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Because we've dropped a few of these old Chubby and
Stick podcasts, which we'll get to the iHeartRadio things sooner
than later. And I've had people reach out and then
they say, when they've searched, they found us, but they
also found apparently a lot of makeup and something called
chubby stick makeup or something.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
It's not just me. They're not messing with me. I
guess no.

Speaker 9 (51:13):
I mean there's there's search terms that that that pop up.
I used to do the show Fat Guys at the Movies,
and you wouldn't believe some of.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
The dudes in the movies.

Speaker 9 (51:26):
I don't even think I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Not during the day, for sure. No, yeah, thank you
for that. Yeah, let's not get us in trouble. The
Chubby and Stick podcast is bad enough. Only for podcasts sometimes,
all right. I just wondered, because I just had somebody
message me the other day and said, you guys do makeup.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's not what I could.

Speaker 9 (51:43):
But you do not want that?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
No, it really would.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
It would need a lot of it to make both
either one of us or both of us pretty, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Oh all right, that's not why you called.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I know, sober Gecko on substacks where you can find
him and then you can follow along and he'll show
up in your mailbox and with comics and stories because
he writes, he does it all, and then he also
takes the hit for us at the movie theater. What
is the pick for the week that you went to
sit through? Was it a horrible experience or is it
something we should be excited to get in line to
go get oversized overpriced popcorn and big beverages that come

(52:12):
with you know.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Cathers yeah, well.

Speaker 9 (52:15):
You know, the this week there was no huge releases.
There are no like big blockbuster movies. The whitest. The
biggest new release though, it was this little horror film
called Obsession. And I had a chance to see this one.
Uh it's it's what's funny about it is the guy
and the guy who directed it comes from comedy, which

(52:36):
is real interesting because it's not uncommon to have somebody
come from comedy and do like incredible horror work like
Jordan Peel. It's because when you're in when you're in comic,
I mean you've known comics. Comics are some pretty crazy
people and their mind goes to some dark places. Yes,
and they filtered through through humor on the stage. But

(52:59):
the Jordan Peel's a great example of that. Zach Craiger
did sketch comedy. Both of them got kind of cut
their teeth and sketch comedy and they're two of the
most respected horror directors now. And this one is a
guy who did comedy on YouTube, but now he's he
did another movie which was also a horror movie. But

(53:21):
this is the one that's kind of really making waves
for him. It's it's called Obsession. And it's about this
this twenty something, you know, like early twenties. A bunch
of friends work in a music store and he's got
a crush on one of the one of the girls
in his circle. And they've been friends for years, and
he's never told her he had a crush. You know,

(53:43):
we've all been there on this, most of us on
that side of the fence, because with you or you
don't know somebody had a crush on you, and or
you're just pretending not to notice. And he then uses
this little thing he gets in a magic shop to
make a wish that she loves more than anything else
in the entire world, and and and and it comes true.

(54:06):
But she's also really kind of crazy about this sort
of thing. She turns into, uh, you know, an unstable person.
To put it mildly, well, well, this is the thing.
We've all had, the unrequited love and the crush. And
we've all also experienced the unstable relationship, either directly or

(54:31):
through a friend.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
The highs high, the lows are very low.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
Yeah, And I mean this one the reason we've all
done well, the reason this movie works is we've all
been there in some way, shape or form, even if
it's just outside looking in where you have a friend
who's dating the crazy person and this is these are
real sort of emotions, so you can kind of see

(54:56):
where they let it go. So far, it goes far,
it goes really you know, drives a crazy town. It's
it's not just getting in the car, it's it's speeding
on the way past the situation. But it's really well gone.
I mean, it's really an effective movie because you know,
even though I hope that people haven't experience of stuff

(55:17):
that goes on in this movie, but you're like, you
could have gone that far in some of these relationships
because you just don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I mean, all you have to do is listen and
watch the news and you'll come across stuff like this,
hopefully not quite This looks quite gory and on the
violent side.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 9 (55:34):
Yeah, it gets very unhinged as it goes on. It
starts small, but it takes the big steps pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Talking to Kevin Carr by the way a Silver Gecko
on Substack about this new movie obsession, now, you mentioned
about that the comedy Riders having seemingly a very easy
step successfully to finding the horror genre. Do you think,
because it seems like there is something dark and funny
and uncomfortable and that's our way of coping with what

(56:03):
makes us nervous or unsettled sometimes. Is that dark humor.
Is that one of those things that you think maybe
helps make it work so well?

Speaker 9 (56:10):
I think I think it's it's it's it's a bit
of that. It's like people who focus on comedy aren't
afraid of prodding in the more uncomfortable areas. You know,
I mean if and if you've spent any time with comics,
and this is not this is not being being insulting
to them. It's just they're dark people. They've got a

(56:33):
very dark side, and if you sit around you think, oh,
it will be a barrel of laughs. Not always, some
of some comedians are the more more portraed people around
there just internally, uh, And this is just how they
let it go. So you know, it's you know, being
with a comic does not make it a barrel of laughs,
because you know, they're not a you know, they're not
a court jester, they're not a trained monkey to just

(56:56):
make you laugh. And then they find humor in some
of the weirdest places. And I think that's why they don't.
They're okay letting their mind go there.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
It's kind of a survivor skill at I think for
a lot of time.

Speaker 9 (57:09):
And on the on the reverse side, some of the
people that have the darkest stuff, like with without the
comedic background, are like some of the more just sort
of gentle people. I know a lot of horror fans
and they wouldn't hurt a fly, but they look like
they could.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
You know, well, you never judge judge a book by
his cover. I gotta know if if of a certain age,
Conan O'Brien's sidekick, if you will, for some period of time,
it was Andy Richter. He's in this too. What is
Andy Richter doing in this? Because he's I think the
underrated guy.

Speaker 9 (57:39):
I love Andy Richter, and he just got so galvanized
as codin psychic even even know when when he brought us,
when he went to TBS and everything, and I don't
know how he got to this one. It was just weird.
I'm watching the movie nobody I really recognize, and that
here comes Andy Richter showing up. He probably knows them,
you know it probably because they got background in comedy,

(58:00):
you know, and that's that's very likely. But yeah, it
was a weird sort of not even a cameo. It's
just he's just in the film. But but he does
crop up. Andy Richard does crop up in weird places.
There was a movie I can't even remember what it was,
but a couple of years ago I saw it. He
just kind of had the side little part in it.
And it's you know, no one's casting Andy Richter in

(58:23):
like a Lord of a Rings movie. Who knows, maybe
Stephen colbertwell, but but nobody's really doing that. And he's
not getting Marvel movies. But people are like, oh, put him.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
In this role.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
In these he always plays the schlumpy guy, and he's
great as the.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Schlubby nothing wrong with that, as long as the money
shows up in the bank account. I don't you know,
I'll do whatever. It sounds bad, but it's true as
long as that's fun. Kevin Carr, Silver Gecko on Substack.
All right, So Obsession, Obsession sounds like a movie to see, uh,
and you sound like it's it's good. So what else
is out there that's worth seeing? If anything? Because you

(58:58):
know we've talked to a few Uh. I mean, there's
a bunch out there right now. But it's it's odd
this season just in general. The big blockbusters are coming.

Speaker 9 (59:06):
Well, they're coming, but I mean they're It be like
a couple of years before COVID, it started to be
that early May was the start of the summer. It
used to be years ago that Memorial Day weekend was
the kickoff of summer at the movies. But then they
started releasing Marvel movies on May the first weekend of May.

(59:27):
So we've gotten some big stuff, you know, like the
Devilwar's product too, it was a big movie. And and
Michael is a huge movie that came out in April.
But and the Immortal Kombat too did actually quite well
last weekend.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
You got Star Wars The Mandalorin and Grogu next week.
That's gonna that that's sort of that traditional Star Wars
release date of of Memorial Day weekend. But I think
we're already kind of into summer. The hits are already
here and we're making there's the box office is doing
quite well for itself. Uh, don't worry. There'll be a

(01:00:00):
at some point, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
There are always is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
And I have to I want to touch back on
last week because I think it came out and I
want to see it in a theater because I'm wired
that way. Iron Maiden has a burning Ambition, which is
a new sort of like documentary if you will on them.
I know there's a Greg Allman The Music of My Soul,
which is coming out or it came out this weekend. Also,

(01:00:23):
there is a huge amount of music movies also that
are just in the last couple of months seemingly to
rear their head in theaters and streaming again.

Speaker 9 (01:00:32):
Well, yeah, and a lot of it is a lot
of it is because well, concerts are so expensive. It's
a cheap it's a cheaper or more economical way of
seeing that live event, because now when you get the
imax of the big screen and the good sound systems,
you can really replicate a type of musical experience and
in some ways better than what you would do if

(01:00:53):
you see him live, Like you know, you can't sometimes
you can't quite if you're too far from the stage.
You can barely see the people there, and the arena shows.
Sometimes it's hard to justify that cost. But you know,
for twenty five bucks you can go see it at
the movie theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, it's not bad and you get to hear it
well produced. It's always a weird to disconnect for me.
It's like, well, is this the band's production or is
this someone else sort of doing it? They have their approval,
and you kind of know do you want the warts
and all or just what you enjoy and like about
the band, which is always an odd thing too.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
Yeah. Well, and you're when you're dealing with that either
a live performance, especially like an arena show, and you
compare it to a movie theater, even a big movie theater,
but it's got to play around the country. You're dealing
with so much money to put those together, and you're
dealing with so many fans that need to see it.
You kind of have to have that experience. Has to
be something that everybody wants, and it's you know, it's

(01:01:50):
hard to decide where you want to go to dinner
and please everybody. It's got to be that much harder
to produce a film like this and give people they
want on a you know, national level.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Absolutely burning ambitions, the Iron Maiden one and the Greg
Alman movies, The Music of My Soul. There's a bunch
of others out there too. I just had to mention
it because that I mean, that's sort of my wheelhouse too.
And yeah, you know it's one of those anything else
before we let you hop to into the rest of
the weekend, Kevin Carr and the Silver get go on
substack that we should be aware of or otherwise, Like you.

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
Said, that's where I'm going. I know they've got a
Master's in the Universe movie coming up. That's like, I
think the week after next. And ok, you got Toy
Stories five. It's five, like in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Wow, how many? How many generations of kids?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Now that's like second and easily maybe even to the
third generation arguably.

Speaker 9 (01:02:42):
Well, it's a thirty year old franchise, and I think
the person came out in nineteen ninety five, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Grandma who saw it as a young adult could probably
then be going to see it with her grand babies
or his grand.

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
Babies even Oh sure, sure, yeah. And I do find this, this,
this toy story coming up kind of odd because they're
like traditional like handle like physical toys are going up
against computers. Well the whole thing's computer generated anyways, So
and I'm sure there's plenty of apps for toy story
games that kids are gonna play. So I want to

(01:03:14):
see how Disney and Picks are navigate that waters of
They might at the end look at themselves and be like,
maybe worth the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
The other thing that's interesting is with the AI and
a lot of these agents that you can sort of
put together, a lot of these kids could probably create
their own movies with the characters and storylines of their choice.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
Well, yeah they could. I mean, there's no rights issues
got to deal with. And the thing with like the
creation tech for AI, you still got to have somebody
behind it figuring out if it's decent.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
You know, you can't you know.

Speaker 9 (01:03:49):
That that's what we're gonna think. We're gonna run into
people like, oh, you can just push a button and
say I want a movie about this. Yeah, you might
be able to make a Hallmark movie that's so formulaic
it doesn't change.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
We've all been forced to watch them. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I shouldn't say that, but it's true, you know, like, oh, yeah,
it's Christmas in July again.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
Great.

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
Yeah, Oh, it's a craft maker who's gonna meet a
you know, a handyman who has dogs. I mean, it's
just they're all the same, so you can probably put
together that, you know, or something super formula like like
like little like preschool kids.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah yeah, but you know, I don't know, not for
a big screen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
But I'm just saying it's interesting because I think the
future movie makers, it's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Be a whole nother world.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
They'll have made them on their own devices before they
ever get to a point where they start showing him
to the masses.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Other than social media. It's different times, different times.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 9 (01:04:40):
I mean like it's much more accessible now for just
traditional filmmaking with digital technology.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
So that's true.

Speaker 9 (01:04:45):
You shoot stuff on iPhones now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
That's true. You can read him, you can see him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
He hangs out in your mailbox, he's everywhere, Sofa Gecko
on substat Kevin Carr, thank you for making time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
All right, we'll talk to you labor.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
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