Sterling 6/6/26

Sterling talks with Dr. Ian Ralby about the latest on the blockade in the Persian Gulf. The Ohio Legislature is debating whether to debate...child marriage. Sterling asks why? The First Energy scandal is rearing its head again. Sterling gets the details from Marty Schladen of the Ohio Capitol Journal.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It gets you through it tonight on the line, doctor
Ian Robby, guy in the know in charge of well,
serious issues when it comes to maritime security and knowledge base,
and of course also somebody who is more than in
the know when it comes to what's going on currently
with a whole lot of ships that have been stuck

(00:23):
for the well. I think Ian Robby, welcome back to
seven hundred WLW How long I think we spoke about
a month ago and now we're talking three months with
a better part of what twenty thousand men and women
aboard these ships, cargo vessels as well as oil tankers
in the straight ohor moves in the version golf waiting
for something to break when it comes to this Iran conflict.

(00:45):
How are they doing now? From what you know?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, it's been a tough few months for them. The
uncertainty both about when they're going to move and what's
going to happen to them has been I think crippling
for some of them. They have faced all kinds of threats,
including kinetic hits from drone, from missiles. There have been
fires on board a lot of ships. We've seen an
inordinate number of seafares be killed in a short period

(01:10):
of time as compared to other conflicts, and at the
same time they don't know what the future holds, and
so they're running out of food, medicine, all kinds of things.
So it's spent a grim time for the men and
women who actually carry the ninety percent of world trade
that happens by sea. But there has been some relief
recently in the form of Iran's Persian Gulf Straight Authority,

(01:31):
which is this combination of permitting and toll scheme that
unfortunately seems to be taking hold. And that I say
unfortunately because it spells trouble for the future of not
only maritime commerce but the global economy. And not only
is Iran involved, but the Omanis are seemingly interested in
considering this to be a potentially permanent fixture. So we

(01:54):
have seen about three hundred ships get out, but they
have gotten out under very, very concerning circumstances.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The CEO of I are Concilium doctor Ian Ralbie Hens.
I are a short bus rider, but I think that's
how that comes together with Stirling seven hundred do well
w So these vessels got through by paying tolls and
being led through these mind waters in that bottleneck area
in the US let them out or is this like

(02:21):
being done sort of on the download you know about it,
now we know about it. I can't understand how if
it's blockaded, they're letting them through like that.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, it's a confusing picture, to say the least. The
blockade technically applies to ships that have called at Iranian
ports or are in some ways of bailing themselves of
Iran as a jurisdiction, But these ships seem to have
sailed through Iranian waters and have been allowed to go
out or in, depending on which direction they're heading.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's a little bit unclear, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
The part of the problem with this whole conflict is
that the information space is as important as the physical space,
and both parties seem to enjoy a degree of deception.
The Iranian have made outright bold, very very false claims,
but equally on our side, unfortunately, we've said some things
that have proved just not to be true. So it's

(03:08):
hard to make sense of what's rhetoric, what's reality, and
really what's going on.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
But there has been some movement.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It is limited, and the general thrust of it is
that most of the energy supplies most of the goods
that are supposed to be coming both out of the
Gulf and into the Gulf to serve other states are
just stuck. And so it's continuing to put huge pressure
on global energy supplies and the global economy, and we're
getting towards a critical point. In the next few weeks,

(03:36):
we're going to start running out of some of the
key supplies, and in the US that translates into some
strange things because even though we're not very reliant on
the Middle Eastern oil, we do have complicated supply chains
that mean that we're seeing about a forty percent shortage
in motor oil. So synthetic oils in the United States
are becoming a real problem.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So we've got to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Because the car just going to get your oil changed
to jiffylube I could go up quite a lot if
they can't access that supply.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, that's quite disturbing. Sterling on seven hundred WLW A
doctor Ian Rolby. He's the boss of I are Concilium.
He's a guy in the know when it comes to
security issues, maritime concerns globally, when it comes to getting
around we've talked piracy in the past. This is a
next level situation with the straight o horn moves closed. Ian.

(04:26):
You mentioned the issue of food and medicine, and I
had asked you a time or two back when we
had you on the show, and we appreciate you making
yourself available. I know you're like a very you're in
Fiji for those who don't know, and you sound like
you're across the Montgomery Road here, which is tremendous. So
I appreciate you making time while you're in paradise in

(04:47):
the midst of this. But I had asked about servicing
these vessels and the twenty thousand people that are there,
even though some of these small quantity of these vessels
have gotten in and out of there. What does that
mean for food service, in water that's fresh, in medicines
for all these crews, who is servicing them? Are they
able to go to any ports in the Persian golfer

(05:09):
in that area or are they literally just in limbo,
sitting there anchored, waiting for whatever comes next.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, that depends a bit on the ship owner. A
lot of the owners are really trying to do their
best to look after everybody and make sure that they
are getting access to everything. But there's a degree to
which that is just not as easy and possible as
anybody would like. The seafair is charities and wellness associations
are doing an incredible job, and they're being looked after
better than they have in the past in some situations.

(05:40):
The COVID crisis, for example, was really really grim for
the seafares. Many of hundreds of thousands worldwide we're stuck
out at sea for more than seventeen months without being
able to come to shore, and another three hundred to
four hundred thousand were stuck on land.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
So this is a slightly less awful situation.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But we compound the problem with not only having access
to goods supplies, water, food, medicine, but also the issue
of just the constant stress of not knowing whether there's
a missile or drone coming. Because we have seen ships
just in the last week hit in un Cussar, in Iraq,
we've seen them hit in Kuwait, We've seen them hit
in other parts of the Gulf that are not directly

(06:19):
part of the immediate vicinity of the conflict. And so
you could just be sitting minding your own business waiting
for something to happen, and then something really terrible does happen,
and that is really a difficult position for men and
women who are not trained for this. But I do
want to make one comment, if I may. I got
to Fiji last night. I'm here for work, and the
cab driver who picked me up from the airport had

(06:39):
to pull over and get some gas and he said,
you know, the cost has gone.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Up more than double for his fuel costs here.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So we are on the other side of the planet
as far away from the conflict as could be, and
everybody is talking about it because you know, his comment
was he wished Americans cared more about the lowly people
in other parts of the world than I promised. Then
we did, But the problem is that it's just a
crippling cost that does not seem to be heading for
any relief anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
CEO of ir Concilium, Ian Rolby, was stirling seven hundred WLW.
How does the issue of payment going through there? Because
we discussed this early on, they all will get tolls.
Even the President of the United States mentioned, well, maybe
they get on that too, but then that's quieted down
subsequently because they say that's not a good plan. But
this is a major concern and you mentioned it not

(07:30):
just being for the Strait of Horror moves but elsewhere.
So is the concern then that other nation states, rogue
or otherwise or even pirates in some fashion would then
start holding vessels in some fashion hostage like this and
waiting for payment beyond just you hear me, yes, I.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Can, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So you know, the whole Iranian regime is actually fairly
well organized when it comes to bureaucracy, and what they've
essentially done is taken a bureaucratic approach to handling this.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
So ships have a.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Very clear process by which they have to send messages
with all kinds of details requesting permission, and the permission
is the granted or denied, and then a payment process
is offered to them, either through cryptocurrency or Chinese you on,
and the Chinese have seemingly become the backers for this,
and so this is a really concerning trend in addition

(08:23):
to the implications for maritime security regarding the overall efforts
that we've seen from China, Russia and other countries to
try to get the global economy off of the US
dollar and outside of the regulation of financial institutions in
the United States, and so we are seeing exactly that
taking shape, where the payments are coming through mechanisms that

(08:47):
don't involve any kind of nexcess to the US. And
so we could see this be formalized and take hold
not only here but potentially elsewhere if something isn't done
to really say, hey, hang on a minute, the cost
of goods has to stay low for everybody around the world,
no matter who it is, and this will only increase
that cost and decrease the accessibility of goods. And if

(09:10):
we do this, we're going to see a real change
in how global trade and the global economy functions. So
that's what's happening at the moment. But this seems to
be attractive to other parties, including the Omanis, who seem
to continue to negotiate for the potential of a joint
scheme on this Persian called strade authority.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
And we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
And I know we're shure on Tom. I appreciate you
making yourself available in relation to the current situation with
all these vessels, how many are stuck and if in
fact hostilities ended tomorrow and it opened up and they
weren't you know, charging people and having to go through
that rigormarole to get through and out of there or
into that space. How long are we talking for them

(09:51):
just to either get loaded up with whatever they have
to load up with, or if they've already dumped it
off and they're on to the next place, for this
stuff to get moving, because, as you mentioned, reserve for
petroleum products like motor oil, et cetera, and a whole
host of other things are months and months out and
we're not even yet really feeling to pinch on that
as reserves have gone so low exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
So it's a good question and a tough one to answer.
So it looks like it's about sixteen hundred ships or
so that that need to get moving, but no two
ships are quite the same, and so what we have
to also pay attention is what kind of ships they
are and what is moving. So we have a mix
of container vessels, roll on, roll off vessels, tankers of

(10:33):
different sorts. But when it comes to the Gulf, the
key the key goods are obviously energy supplies. But even
in that space, we've got some diversity because you have
crude oiled, you have refined fuel products, and then you
also have other gas products both liquified petroleum gas and
liquified natural gas, the latter of which requires a specific

(10:55):
type of ship, with a specific type of terminal and
specific routings. That's going to take a long long time
to get back up and running because so much of
the infrastructure around it has been damaged, and so we
are looking at a timeline of about five years for
the Katari gas fields to come back online. That's a
real problem, and that's thirty five percent of some of
the largest gas fields in the world offline for a

(11:16):
number of years. So even if everything reopens today, we
aren't going to see a magical resumption of you know,
two to three dollars gasoline. We're going to see a
gradual process where it may actually continue to go up
even with the.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Of the Somehow, the.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Price and the accessibility of oil and gas supplies have
not been in parallel. In other words, the price is
artificially low because everybody is hopeful that this conflict will
be resolved.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But from a.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Supply standpoint, it is pretty concerning and it will be
for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So I would imagine a freight rate to ship whatever
it is aboard a vessel and getting it where it
goes not just where we're talking about with the Straight
of Horror Moves and the Persian Gulf, but globally that
is going up. If it hasn't already, probably will go
up substantially.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
We're actually looking at a weird situation. Russian sanctioned bunker fuel,
which was given sanctions relief temporarily, has kind of helped
keep those freight rates lower. So again that artificial pricing
is partly because of de sanctioning Russian entities. So we're
in a strange position where everything is kind of temporary

(12:31):
and the future is extremely uncertain.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
What if I not asked before we let you bounce
into the rest of your working time in a place
that the most of us imagine going at some point
before we kick the bucket Fiji, are you there? I
think we lost him. Hopefully we'll get him back. Yeah,
we did. We'll see if we get him back. I
must yeah, I don't know what I said, but it
was enough for him to go, so we'll see if

(12:53):
we get him back or otherwise. But either way, that's
the guy who's behind I are concilient Ian Rowby, who's
also a non resident senior fellow at the Center for
Maritimes Strategy as well, giving us some insight into the
Strait of Horror moves, the backed up situation of some
sixteen hundred various ships there as well. In the meantime,

(13:15):
just sort of waiting and I think he may be
back on the line, so we'll see exactly how this
goes here in just a second before I bounce. I
dont want to do that prematurely. Okay, Yeah, So I
think it went to sleep the not him, but the phone.
So we'll leave it at that. Or is that him?
We don't know. Oh, he's still tried, all right, gotcha,

(13:36):
all right? So either way, we'll leave that there. We
appreciate him making time. He may listen back to the
iHeartRadio app and hear this too, and at least we
know what happened as far as that goes. Russ Jackson
is producing, will make sure that he's okay. I hate
it when somebody calling from Interstate seventy four on a
conversation just disappears, but somebody on the other side of
the planet when it happens, it really kind of creeps

(13:58):
me out. Either way, It's Saturday night, Sterling. Glad you're
along Donnade is not here. We will talk some relationship
stuff in a bit, a lot of other ground to cover.
Appreciate you being here. This is the Nation Station, a
Saturday night sterling with Russ Jackson, Matt Reese with news postaste,
and a whole lot more coming up on seven hundred WLW.

(14:19):
A big one. Some scattered thunderstorm, sure they're possible tonight,
but I think most of it's moved through down to
about sixty seven Tomorrow more the same. It will be warmed, hot,
inhuman and feeling like summer in the Tri State Middle
eighty same Monday and Tuesday. You get a general pattern
of where we are. My grass is growing, and good luck,

(14:39):
I have to find feinting goats to do the work.
As wet as it is, it's a steamy eighty right now,
your Severe Weather Station, seven hundred WLW. Glad you're along.
Thanks again to Ian Ralbie. I are Concilium boss, a
guy who knows about maritime issues and security and safety.
And that's still hard for me to process. And it's
a big body, the body of walk. I mean, it's

(15:00):
not like the pond in my buddy's backyard where we
like to fish sometimes which is big enough to like,
you know, swim across, but it's not a massive, like
crazy large area like the Gulf of Mexico. But it's
a big space in a bottleneck. Sixteen hundred ships of
various types from oil tankers, cargo container ships, and all

(15:22):
kinds of other materials that we need here and elsewhere
around the world, all bottled up and apparently being held
for hostages in some cases having to pay these tolls,
which they said they weren't going to allow to happen.
So that's unnerving, to say the least. Other stuff to
get to Tonight, Kevin Carr, fat guys at the movies.
We'll talk to him about the Masters of the Universe

(15:42):
coming up in just a little bit. Also relationship issues.
I know Donnade normally talks about that I am the
King of dysfunction, or at least putting the fun in it.
That they are debating something that I thought had already
been put to bed, which is child marriage issues, meaning
children shouldn't begin married because it's in their title. Their

(16:03):
children will explain that. Give you a chance to sound off,
And a whole lot more ground to cover between now
and midnight on the Nation Station where the Reds took
another one on the chin. They'll try to salvage one
game and look to get out of Saint Louis tomorrow
with the win. In the meantime, there's lots to do
tonight on seven hundred WLW on the weekends here and

(16:24):
if you're venturing into a theater, I don't think it's
in the streaming space yet. The Masters of the Universe
have made an appearance after years and years away. We've
been waiting eagerly and sober Gecko on substack my buddy
Kevin Carr back with Sterling on seven hundred WLW. How
are you Is this Masters of the Universe everything you
would hoped it would be? Or were you just indifferent

(16:46):
to its existence in general?

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, when I was a kid, I mean I grew
up with it. I don't think I have to. I
don't even think I actually had the toys because it's
based on a toy line from Mattel. Yeah, but I
remember watching the show and that was a big deal
back in the in the early the mid eighties.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I mean, oh, it was a huge cartoon, wasn't it.
It was an annoying cartoon. Now you like the cartoon.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah, And so I watched
it was on after school every day, and I'd come
home and I watch it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
And even though they've done you know, they did a
movie with Dolph Lungering back in like nineteen eighty seven,
and then they did they didn't. They rebooted the cartoon
a couple of times recently a couple of years ago
on Netflix, but it was a cartoon and they you know,
kind of scrap it up a little bit. But you know,
now we've got the next live action version.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Of it, and I go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, I have to say just the cunning to the
chase on this. This kind of made me feel like
that that charge of when you're a kid again, you know,
really just kind of enjoying the spectacle for the adventure.
You're not trying to think of it as an adult.
You know, it's a kid's movie. Ultimately. It's telling the
basic story where Adam, who's this character from Attorney, ends

(18:02):
up on planet Earth and then he's got to get
his magic sword and get back and defeat Skeletor. And
it really feels like the cartoon in the sense that
it's got fiber special effects, but it's like not so
photorealistically done that it's not trying to do a really
heavy story, and it does kind of look like a
Saturday Morning cartoon, but they're not trying to bum you

(18:24):
out like the House of Dragons fantasy shows or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Talking to Kevin carr Is sover Geckle on Substact Back
the New Masters at a Universe Movie. Now, I was
not a fan of the cartoon. Seemed like all these
kids I knew growing up were into it, and for
whatever reason, it annoyed me. However, seeing an extended trailer
for this, I found myself laughing and feeling drawn to

(18:48):
go see this in a theater, which I don't know
what that says about me, but it just looked fun
and not too hokey, and I think that's what the
cartoon was the problem for me.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, well, I mean there's a little bit of hooking there,
and you got like the goofy lines, and they don't
shy away from that, you know, sometimes they try to
scrub that out and make a more serious tone, because
I mean, you are going after the original viewers of
this as adults, but really, it's for kids, and when
I went and saw there was a lot of kids
in the theater. And it's big and loud and vibrant

(19:20):
and colorful and lots of explosions and chases and effects,
and my dad would have hated every minute of it.
But I had a lot of fun watching. I was surprised, honestly,
I was like, kind of, I don't want to see this.
I was. I kind of was engaged because you do
have to approach it as a child, and if there's
anybody who can act like a child, it is me.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, I can either confirm or deny it's true. Yeah,
it Sterling with Kevin Carr, Silver Gecko substag Masters in
Universe to the movie. I was kind of blown away
in surprise Alison Breeze in this, who of course was
in Mad Men in the wrestling show Glow or whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
The community as well.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, I forgot about that. Kristin Wiggs Jared leto DRIs Alba,
who was not the new Double Low seven apparently and
says he doesn't care, but everybody for the longest was
trying to get that guy to be James Bond. Now
he's involved in going after Skeletor. Explain how all these
people get into this? Are these people? Do you think
that grew up with it and we're into it or
is it just a hey, we got a money check

(20:18):
for you if you want a job.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, I think there's a lot of paychecks involved and
that's actually going to do it. But you know, Interselva
plays the man at arms and he he does a
good job as you know, that's older but at times failed,
the person who basically ran the army. But of course
Skillota has taken over, so he's a little down on himself. Look,

(20:40):
Alison Brie choose the scenery through this. He's in on
the joke. He reminds me of when they did that
Power Rangers movie is several years back and Elizabeth Banks
played the bad girl or the bad guy or whoever
the main Rita. I don't think it was Rita, but
whatever was. She knew the assignment, and Alison Bree knows
the assignment. Jared Leto was the one that blew my
mind because I forgot when I went to go see it,

(21:02):
I forgot that he had been cast as Skeletor. And
obviously they do. They do a little bit of work
on his face. Hello, you can't tell that it's Jared Leto,
but man, he nails the perform. He does a really
funny evil but tongue in cheek and it kind of
taps into the uh, let's just call it the the
the online subtext that that has emerged over the last

(21:26):
several decades with Skeletor. He really leans into that and
it's it's a hoot. I was surprised that I like
the Jared Leto performance in the modern days.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, how fun must it be to be able not
just to play maybe a villain, but to do it
so over the top cartoon like in a film like this.
I mean you want to talk about making like money
but doing it and having fun?

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean it does feel like that now. I
don't know. I mean, you don't give out oscars for
the most fun people had on set or cannon Ball
run too or he would have won the eye those years.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But they were great for what they were. No, well
maybe not a little bit.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
U DC Cab because it was a terrible movie.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Mister t was the yah.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
It had a cocaine budget. It literally had a line
out of cocaine budget.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I don't know, nothing about that, did it? Really? Those
were different times. The industry is not like that anymore.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Right, maybe maybe not for cocaine.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Probably other stuff. Wow, I don't have to say no access.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's amazing. So this is the first real big popcorn
movie of the year kind of right, although you know
Mandalorian h Grogu thing was kind of that way.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean they were both kind of
fun popcorn movies. There were ones you don't really need
to carry stuff to or from. It's something you can
just go and enjoy for that, I mean, And as
much as I love horror, you got big success with
Obsession and back Rooms. Those are going to be heavy,
you know, And you're not gonna take your kids. Could
better not be taking your kids to see Obsession because.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That would be wrong.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You're going to raise some weird ass weird adults.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, there'll be some problems. Let me ask you about
that very issue. Back Rooms and Obsession are very small,
low budget movies that found a different path to theaters
and being shown and looking at these numbers, I was
going to ask you that, by the way. Kevin Carr
Silver Gecko on Substack talking to Master's Universe and other

(23:27):
movies stuff with Stirling on the big one. As I
looked at this, were the numbers accurate that I saw?
That seemed like these movies are building momentum in theaters,
which is not usually what we've been seeing with a
lot of movies for quite a while that we've been
talking about them.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Well, yeah, part of it is sort of like a
now factor. That's that's one of the things Obsession in
particular's building. It's grown three weeks in a row, and
outside of Christmas releases where it's a very crowded frame
and you know, weird things happen in the box office Christmas,
you've got to go back to Like the Et the
Extraterrestrial was the last, the non Christmas theatrical release that

(24:07):
grew the way that Obsession has, maybe not to the
same numbers. I mean, it's not gonna make five hundred million,
but it's grown, and part of it is it's found
an audience. There was this little horror movie that went
out there and then people found out that it was good.
Whereas the back rooms or back rooms that the director
brings his stuff from his YouTube channel, and that's the

(24:29):
thing between the two of those guys is their YouTubers,
which is great because it shows that there's places that
you can find content that isn't a comic book or
a book or a TV show or some nostalgic thing.
It's also terrifying because now Hollywood is gonna be mining

(24:50):
YouTube channels and it's just we're gonna get We are
in in for a string of really terrible YouTube video
inspired horror movies.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Everything has a cycle, I guess to raise yourself. Yeah,
that's I guess the bad part of it. But they'll learn,
like everything else, if they make crap and people don't
pay to see it, eventually they'll stop right now.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
You saw that with the Harry Potter movie, and then
they mined all the young adult books, and he saw
that with Twilight, and they mind the same thing Hunger
Games and this is the next thing, so they're gonna
mine all that stuff. I would also throw markt Plier
in as a YouTuber who had a huge success this
year with Iron Lung. He kind of he didn't four Wallet,
but it was an independent release where I don't think

(25:33):
he went through a studio. I think he just went
through AMC theaters the way like Taylor.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Swift did well.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And for those who don't know, four walling or whatever
is where you basically make a deal to rent the
theater and put the movie out yourself. Correct.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, you basically rent the theater in charge of mission
and keep it all. Yeah, that's what four walling is,
and that works. That was back in the day, like
in the sixties. Roger Corman would do that where he
just rent theaters and he didn't deal with the studio
because no one would touch his stuff. But he could
do it himself and he made a lot of money
doing that.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, there are worse ways to make a living, certainly,
and not to get creeped out and think like tinfoil
hat like conspiracy theories and technology. But just as we
were talking, as I have my hand in my phone
or on my phone, a pop up advert for back
rooms came up while we were speaking, I kid you not,
I swear to the Lord above. As my mom would say, well,

(26:24):
you know what I means.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Seriously, the tech listens to us. Whether it listens to
us or just hears us is a different story.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
My dog listens or hears but doesn't listen.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, one day, one day you'll come home
and the dog will look at you and be like
I was listening to on the radio and I said,
you were wrong on this point.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I will call you first if and when that happens.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
It's got a monocle.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I wish he could talk, I really do, although shutting
him up would be difficult, but you know, what are
you going to do? It really is check out the
Chubby and Stick podcast for that. We'll get more of
that sooner than later. Besides Master's Universe, which sounds like
they want to go see. We know about back rooms,
we know about this other stuff. What else is coming?
Because we are right in front of fourth of July

(27:10):
in like a summer full of the you know stuff?
What's coming that we should be aware of?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Well, just just for note, the new scary movie scary movie.
I don't know what it is. It's scary movie something.
The Wayans brothers are back involved in it. That's doing
quite well this weekend. So if you want a comedy
that's out there. I've not seen it, but you know, hey,
it's a comedy of these movies you know what they are,
but you know coming up, you got like Disclosure Day

(27:35):
next week. That's the that's the Blonde Spielberg Alien thing,
and you've got Toy Story five coming up. Oh well, yeah, five, Yeah,
Toy Story five coming up. Those are the ones that
are on my immediate Supergirls coming up, that's another one.
You got The Odyssey. July is going to be nuts
because you've got The Odyssey, the Curse Sermer Nolan movie,

(27:57):
and you've got the new Spider Man movie Brand New Day,
which tends to be the Spider Man movies have not
they've been growing. So I'd be curious to see how
well this is because we're testing the sort of post
Avengers model of our people still having an appetite for
this type of spectacle or are they kind of like, well,

(28:19):
I've seen it all before.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Have we seen it all before?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Well, we've always seen everything before. But I think that's
part of the reason why everybody's there's a big chunk
of the audience gravitating towards stuff like obsession and back
rooms because they're different and you don't have fifty different
versions of them on Lake Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So will this ends up being a cycle of change? Kevin?
That is sort of the way it was with what
was the so called found video thing that came out
right around. Yeah, found footage stuff with the blair Witch,
it was all in that, like early late nineties, early
two thousands, there was a stretch where blair Witch was
hugely successful. They started doing that a lot, and then

(28:58):
it went away.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Well blair which was kind of its its own little
impact point. And then in two thousand and eight you
had Cloverfield and that kick started the found footage stuff.
And again there there are a bunch of movies that
were made that were found footage that should not have
been found footage. And I got very tired of found footage.

(29:19):
Oh ye had you had Cloverfield, and then Paranormal Activity
was a one two punch for.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
That, That's right.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
But yeah, you get trends all the time, and a
lot of a lot of times it happens in horror.
You had the slasher trend in the eighties, you had
the torture trend in the in the mid two thousands
starting with Saw and Hostile, and then you got a
bunch of those movies, you know, you had you had
Asian horror coming up in the in the two thousand,

(29:45):
you know, after The Rain and the Grudge. So the
horror is very trendy and right now. This is where
the horror, this is where the trends are, which which
is great. I'm all for new stuff. I I just
do not want to see more repetitive stuff. I don't
want to see another version of a session seven times.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Let's hope that's not what ends up happening. By the way,
you can find Kevin Carr in his creations and comics
and writing and all kinds of other stuff. A silver
Gecko on Substack. He'll even like pop into your mailbox virtually,
and a lot of other stuff too. Anything else before
we let you go to enjoy the rest of this
beautiful weekend.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
No, I think that's about it. I think we got
all the movies that are out there to see.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think we did. Thank you for making time. Always
good to have you on the show. It's Kevin Carr,
Silver Gecko, Substack, Chubby and Stick podcast with us together
which more on that sooner than later. Enjoy the rest
of the night. We'll catch up soon more Sterling coming
back seven hundred WLW do me mine, Rush Jackson, our
Willie Cunningham, Scott Sloan and probably even those Reds though

(30:51):
they're on the road and holy crap, hey doing it's
sterling on a rare Saturday. Ain't gonna d not here.
We'll talk relationships stuff on the other side of your
ten o'clock report, and it's gonna get weird. I'm just
gonna say, there's a debate happening in Columbus with lawmakers
trying to decide if they want to publicly debate child marriage.

(31:15):
Just let that linger in your head for a few
minutes and then we'll get into it deeply. Something that
I want to say. The Reds today. I thought today
was the day they were going to tie up this
weekend series with Saint Louis. They're hanging out to playing
Bush Stadium. I think it's the third Bush Stadium on
the west bank of the Mississippi River. Another game tomorrow,

(31:36):
get away day for the Reds. They were down three
after the second inning. They come back, they tie it
up and get three in the top of the third.
They add on, go up five to three in the
top of the fourth, they give one run up on
the bottom of the fifth, they're still leading by one.
And let me just tell you, I don't know if
you had a chance to listen to this or maybe

(31:58):
see it. Obviously, teach a antone has been through all
kinds of trouble and has comeback, and did he not
show some type of I don't know, divine intervention, something miraculous,
a magical kind of moment.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Bassis loaded nobody out in the sixth inning, turns it
into a double play grounder to short in escape, still
with the Reds leading at that point, and unfortunately, you know,
the Cardinals just keep fighting. In the bottom of the eighth,
they get a two run home run to go up six'.

(32:34):
Five reds couldn't do anything in the top of the,
ninth and well The cards are, home so they were.
Done and then it's out to dinner and then on
to the next. One and Tomorrow i'll have the inside
pitch to get you ready for some afternoon baseball on
The Big one With Tommy thraw And Chris welsch giving
you the, call and we'll see exactly how this stuff plays.

(32:56):
OUT i, mean they got to try to salvage one
of these before they get Onto San. Diego you've got
to at least hang in your own, division you.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Know WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Mean it's, tough and it's a long, season AND i
know all, that but the cards are just brutal back.
Anyway so, yeah we'll do that tomorrow afternoon After Ken
bruce a little bit of a tiny. Show then we'll
get the inside, pitch and then we'll see exactly what
happens on the other side of news later. On by the,
way conversation with A Marty schleader from The Ohio Capitol

(33:28):
journal about a host of things going on in and Around,
ohio but on the other side of news in your
ten o'clock, REPORT i want to talk about something that
it's very. Weird i'm going to use the term age of,
consent right and in twenty twenty, six the idea that
a conversation in a debate by lawmakers in any state

(33:51):
in These United states talking about children getting married seems
ludicrous to, me seems, outrageous seems hard to. Imagine but
yet they apparently have been talking and trying to figure
out how they can get to a point to debate this.
More and whether it's age of consent at like, sixteen

(34:11):
there are a lot of layers to. IT a couple
of generations, ago it was probably pretty common for seventeen
year olds to maybe jump the broom and tie the
knot and SAY i, do whether they were pregnant and
swollen with, joy or they had found love or. Otherwise
but most regular modern day first world, societies not a
lot of children at this point are getting, married and

(34:34):
certainly not grown adults are looking to tie the knot
with what we would call children. Generally so we'll get
into that because, historically if you think, back maybe to
your grandparents or maybe even your, parents depending on how
old you, are the fact is sixteen seventeen years. Old
back in the, day we didn't live as long getting,

(34:55):
married having, kids maybe even a lot of them because
not all of them. Survived that wasn't necesscessarily. Uncommon but
in twenty twenty, six the idea of a sixteen year
old or a seventeen year old just getting married on
their own seems to be rather short. Sighted MAYBE i
want to hear your story and we'll get into whatever
they plan to maybe debate or maybe not. Debate In

(35:16):
columbus is a part of the idea Of Ohio Women's
Public Policy network and talking about to consent issues and so.
On a lot of ground to. Cover Matt reese has
ground to cover with, news and it's time for him
right now to give you up that on everything that's
going on that matters to. You With sterling coming back
on the other side on The home Of Your Rets
News radio seven HUNDRED, Wlw. Cincinnati maybe, divorced maybe. Remarried

(35:40):
maybe you've done it like a couple of my friends
three or four, times which is great for the legal
profession and arguably for the, economy because you get, together
then you split. Up you got to get another, house
you got to get an. Apartment sometimes you got to
get more stuff of other kinds because either somebody gets
to keep it or you split. It it just gets deep.
Fast how you? Doing It's sterling hanging Out saturday, night

(36:01):
a Rare saturday night. Show donna d not. Here we've
got a lot of other ground to, cover but this
is an interesting. Thing just in the last week to ten,
DAYS i have come across multiple stories about conversation in child,
marriage AND i don't think many people reasonably interrationally are, thinking, well,
gee you, know that's a great idea of kids getting married.

(36:22):
TODAY i, mean this is not the eighteen, hundreds this
is not the seventeen. Hundreds this is the twenty first,
century And AI's coming for all of. Us maybe we'll
all have time to get married. Earlier and often ONCE
ai fully takes, over it's tough to, say here's WHAT
i want to know because at this, point Apparently ohio
lawmakers leaders of The Republican party are debating amongst, themselves

(36:48):
and there was just a story in the last couple
of Days morgan Trout put went out for The Ohio Capital,
journal by The, way which is great, reading and talks
about their debate on whether effectively there should be a
debate about child marriage In ohio because apparently before twenty

(37:08):
nineteen there was no minimum age to get married In,
ohio but they had had the age of consent and
they had promoted, apparently as the story, says sixteen for
girls to be able to be. Wet where there were,
exceptions for, instance if the child had gotten an okay
for mom and dad or you, know the, judiciary you,

(37:29):
know they got you, know independent control of. Themselves and
then the judge was, like, yeah, sure you can get
married if you want to or, Otherwise and there are
a lot of reasons for. It you, know maybe you
got someone who's twenty and the you, know they got
a seventeen year old they're dating and somebody's pregnant or
otherwise in generational changes from time to. Time five one to,

(37:51):
three seven four ninety, seven eight hundred The Big, one
pick up the, phone give it the. Finger you can
check us outlso on The iHeartRadio. App you can click
on the microphone seven hundred ww come and leave a message.
There And i'm on x which used to be Called
twitter At Stirling. Radio so WHAT i want to know is,
this wherever you, are in whatever stage of life in
which you're navigating it, Now i'm curious would you have

(38:15):
been if you're married or divorced or what it doesn't,
matter or even if you're thinking back to your parents
in the situation in the home that you grew up.
In i'm kind of. Curious i've talked to a number
of people about, this and some have had multiple, marriages
some have been never, married like, myself AND i talked

(38:36):
to myself often by the, way because they can't get
away from. Me And i've also discussed this with some
people who had either never been, married multiple, marriages or
in one marriage that has been together forever and always
Like i've some friends married JUST i think twenty one
twenty two years, old and they have been together and

(38:56):
now they're in their like mid, fifties and their kids
are out and, about and soon one of them will
be tying the not here shortly. Too and they seem
to have been perfect. Together they seem perfect from the.
Beginning they seem perfect now whatever problems they may have,
had because no relationship is, perfect and without some type of,
issues hiccups or what have you of some, sort they

(39:17):
seem to be healthy and functional and happy and live
in the dream. Life but you never know unless you're in, it,
Right AND i guess that's the. Challenge and for some of,
us being an instant gratification, society a lot of us
are real quick, to, OH i love, you love, You
let's get To, vegas let's get, married let's do. It
and then after a while you're, LIKE i don't know

(39:40):
who you. Are and sometimes it's better they have all
THESE tv shows now, effectively you, know get married and
you don't know each other the short like what it
was ninety day, fiance for, instance you thank You russ
in that, situation so you got like ninety days to
figure it out and get married and do your. Deal that's.
Intense maybe that's too. Fast but you, know a couple

(40:02):
of generations, ago seventeen eighteen years old was. Standard it
seems ridiculously young to. Me NOW i can tell you
THAT i had AND i came very close to engagement and,
whatever and then we, reevaluated both of us and moved.
On but we were thinking in part of college that you,
know we were gonna get, married and then we lived

(40:23):
together and we got real, close and they were like
listen in't abnet and we sort of grew, apart somewhat
different ideas of what we, wanted how to get there
and too, Young but everyone's. Different So i'm just, curious
whether you're newly married and married for, decades whatever it,
is would you have done it sooner or in, hindsight married.

(40:45):
Later and when you think about the idea of if
you have, KIDS i, mean there's so many questions here
and the concept of what would you tell your? Kids
like even WHEN i was in school then and talking you,
know to family and talk to my mom about, it
she was, like you or as are so, young you
have no idea what you don't know, Yet and you,

(41:05):
know at twenty years old twenty, one nobody can tell you.
MUCH i, mean you want to believe that they have
your best interest in. Heart you want to believe that
they know and they want, to you, know educate you
and guide you and direct you in the right. Way
but you're living your life in like a lot of,
us you think you, know but until you, do you.

(41:28):
Don't So i'm glad that we did not.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Get.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Married THEN.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
I.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
DON'T i, MEAN i have to, be Because i'm beyond
that at this. Point But i'm just kind of. Curious
i've talked to some people and they, say, well they
wish they had stopped messing around sooner and done it
earlier so they could have more. Time i've had others
who have been in it got out of, it and
then we're, like we didn't know what we were, doing
and they were miserable they didn't know how to escape.

(41:56):
It and then years, later when they finally do end
up splitting, up they say they've stayed friends, somehow but
they're glad to be on to the next. One sometimes
it's a starter marriage for some. People but the concept
to me in that, relation because you're understanding and where
you are to the idea of what they're talking, about

(42:18):
maybe working on In columbus is kind of. Odd the
ideas of, like, say fifteen year. Olds they used to
be able to get married to grown, ups and that's
just what the world was. Like can you imagine and
you see this ON tv with some of these. People oh,
yeah you, know a grown man wanting to get together
with a fifteen year old, child a girl. Fifteen that's

(42:42):
crazy a, Child but it was, common absolutely every, day
all kinds of stuff to bridgetown. In ray Was sterling
on seven. Hundred, wow you would like to hear from
some women on this. TOO i gotta.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
Know.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Ray, so how old were you when you got? Married
and good or?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Bad are you?

Speaker 9 (43:03):
There?

Speaker 8 (43:03):
Right?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
YEAH i love the listening to.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
You thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Man how are you? YOU i hear you?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
Know, yeah twenty one years.

Speaker 9 (43:09):
OLD i was in The Marine corps and, yeah everything
WAS i have no, Problem we're getting married that. YOUNG
i didn't even. REALIZE i didn't even think was that.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Young actually that when you're in, it you don't, know do,
You because that's the. Thing no one could tell me
anything at that age or. Whatever we just didn't follow
through with. It so how long have you stayed?

Speaker 9 (43:33):
Married i've been married fifty eight. Years On june Fifth.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Friday, congratulations that's. Incredible.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
YEAH i, mean you, know we've had a little ups In,
niles but nothing, really, really really ever bad happened and
it's been.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Great would you tell someone who's, younger aside from what
they're considering getting into In columbus in the legal past
of this in as far as you know the government
and marriage, issue but whether you have kids or, not
what do you tell someone who's sixteen seventeen years, old who's,
going you know, what we think we're in. Love it's
time fifteen sixteen seventeen too? Young you, think, YES i.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
DO i THOUGHT i was two.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Hills but it's worked out for. You that's pretty.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
Good it's worked out, great got, kids got grand. Kids
everything's everything is that they used to say.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Copaesthedic what would be the one piece of advice you
would tell someone who's, younger who's considering being into that
position where they think this is the one they think
she or he is the party to be with forever
in ALWAYS i, Do, Amen what would you tell them
at twenty years?

Speaker 8 (44:44):
OLD i.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Wouldn't even have a.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
COMMENT i don't. Know that's all, right.

Speaker 9 (44:52):
Bunny imagine WHEN i was fifteen. Sixteen you, know you
have your girlfriends and everything IN i don't, know there's
no WAY i had to get married.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Young it seems ridiculous to me too at this. Point
but you've, lived you, know from twenty one to fifty
eight years doing. It that's a tremendous. Thing, congratulations you're
you're close to sixty years. Done, ray take care of, yourself,
Man thank you for being a part of the. Show
To covington And hank With sterling on seven HUNDRED. Wlw,
so how young is too young to get? Married how are?

Speaker 7 (45:21):
You?

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (45:23):
Sterling, yeah WELL i did not get married. Young and
to that previous marine AND i, see thank you And
god bless you for your previous service SO i could
do the same. Thing i'm A Us, marine kind of
a veteran and bang.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
One thank you.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Man, WELL i appreciate you and all of those who
volunteer to put that uniform on, it who put themselves
in harms, way and certainly those who are there now for.
Sure so, Sir, So, hank are you married? Now, yes?
Sir and for how?

Speaker 10 (45:59):
Long it's going on ten years, now but we've been
get together about twice as.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Long oh, Wow, Okay so after being together for so,
long what took so long before you decided to make
it legitimate as far as the government's, concerned or to
make it?

Speaker 6 (46:16):
GOOD i.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Wait a minute for doing it or for? Waiting?

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yes for?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Both, okay all, Right i'm been an. Idiot now what
does your wife say about? That she's been with you
a long? Time you, know, SO i mean that's.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
Good why did you wait so, long you?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Idiot oh you're kidding now did you ask or did She?

Speaker 6 (46:36):
No, well my wife AND i love your. Show why
did you wait so? Long you? Idiot?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, yeah so she hung with you and was just.
Waiting she didn't ask, you like so there are a
lot of women who step up and they, say you,
know do it or get you, know move. On, yeah
she left it to you to make that, decision but
she was hanging. Tough would you think she would have
bounced away had you not made it, like you, know make,
her you, know honest woman out of her for one
of a better way to.

Speaker 9 (47:06):
Say, it.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
You, Know, HONESTLY i think we still would have been
together in the matter what because we're crazy about each.
Other but, yeah IF i hadn't done it, right eventually,
yeah she might.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Have been really. ANGRY i don't, know you know, what
most of the time they're right and it's. Better did
we just do what they? Say from my, experience but you, know, yeah,
Sure i'm dumb that way, TOO. HENK i appreciate the.
Call you're, listening and certainly you know your service and
contributed to the show. Man take care of yourself, anytime.
Sir take care of yourself five point three seven four
nine seven eight hundred the big. One you can talk

(47:45):
back on The iHeartRadio app as. Well i'll check us
some messages on x At Sterling radio two if you
want to get interactive that. Way So i'd like to
have her some women on this and sometimes it's us
guys that drag our. Feet i'm, wondering, then what's the
lake in life you maybe decided to, Say, okay let's do.
This we're gonna go ahead and get. Married Because i've

(48:06):
had friends that have been together and been divorced and
then they're, Like i'm never gonna do it, again and
then eventually they somehow get to a place where they
feel it's right and they do. IT i have one
group of friends of, mine two people married to other
people previously have had, divorces got, together have been Together

(48:27):
i'm guessing better part of fifteen years somewhere in, there ten,
fifteen and they were just joking around about maybe finally
actually getting. Married they were talking about like going To
vegas or whatever like some other friends of mine, did
and Having elvis do, it or at least a facsimile
of the Dead, elvis AND i, say, hey more power to.

(48:48):
YOU i just find it interesting, though AND i think
part of it is the fact that like more people
historically were getting married, younger but was because we didn't
live as, long and how that sort of plays. Out
it's very interesting in how the law has changed and
how you, know people look at it as far as

(49:08):
that goes from one state to the. Other you, know
it used to be the way you go maybe To
indiana or you go To maryland or whatever. Else it,
is for, instance depending on where you, are for a
seventeen year old to marry both, parents legal guardians have
to provide consent, written a juvenile court judge has to
apparently improve of the. Union i've seen this in a

(49:30):
couple of different legal articles in this WHICH i didn't
think it was that at, SEVENTEEN i mean to seventeen
a place where you think you have to get approval
from parents in that. SITUATION i, mean here's the other
side of. This AND i had a friend of mine mentioned.
This he, says you, know they will try you as
an adult if you do an adult crime at like

(49:52):
fifteen or sixteen or. Seventeen if you're pregnant at sixteen or,
seventeen you've already done an adult. Act and if it
was not something where in a grown person put that
baby in her uh in taking. Advantage but it is
kids around the same, age people of the same, age
and they've made that, decision that choice in her living that.

(50:13):
Life are they? Not then shouldn't they be considered responsible
enough to get married and go on about their journey
even though at fifteen they're still under the you, know
the parents', responsibility unless somehow they have been given their
own control of their well. Being you're still under the
responsibility of your parents and the culpability of behaviors with.

(50:35):
That it's a wild, thing and YOU i wouldn't think
and this is. Stereotypical people always joke about like The
south and then The, holler and some of us have
family down, there and maybe you know it's legit that
that type of stuff was going on and so on
at one time or. Another but seventeen's the youngest at

(50:57):
this point apparently In. Ohio and at this point the
number of children being married In. Ohio and this is
from the unchained unchained date, last which is talking about forced.
Marriage unchained at last is how he. PRONOUNCED i was
trying to win an idiot OF i reading the web,
address and they say over five, thousand sixty five thousand

(51:20):
and sixty three kids between the year two thousand and
two twenty twenty four had been married In ohio with consenter.
Otherwise and in twenty Six william De Morrow senator And
Louis blessing And Representative monica Rob blessedell And alice And

(51:41):
russo introduced A house bill to ban all marriage before
the age of. Eighteen it's waiting apparently in action of
The Judiciary. Committee they're going to talk about this at some.
Point The Priusville bill to end child marriage died in.
Legislature in twenty eighteen and twenty, nineteen they passed A
house bill which set the marriage age at, seventeen but

(52:02):
not protecting seventeen year. Olds it's kind of an odd.
Thing seems quite young for that. Situation sixteen. Seventeen, MAN
i was working At Putt putt and a hair, arena hanging.
AROUND i had no idea about. Anything and maybe women do,
mature girls mature, faster but sixteen seventeen year. Old IF
i had, kids there is no way in Hell i'd
be letting one of those kids get married at sixteen

(52:24):
seventeen years. Old no. Chance, seriously let's get To stanley here.
Quickly on seven HUNDRED wlw With Sterling. Stanley how are you,
Hi Grace?

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Sterling how are you?

Speaker 11 (52:34):
Doing?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Man i'm doing, okay tell me about. This how how
old were you young or old when you got? Married
if you've been, married what's the?

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Deal, OKAY i got off For reugh. DIVORCE i got
off the Out reugh.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Divorce BUT i met this gal that ran this fitness.

Speaker 12 (52:52):
Center so, anyways we started hanging out and we've been
together Thirty oh, wow we've got a nice home And
sterling she is ninety one years, old going to be ninety.
Two And i'm telling you, what, man it's been a,

(53:16):
great great companion for. Me that's ALL i.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Needed, well that's, tremendous And i'm guessing that sticking with
you that long she feels the same about.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
You, well what's so?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Funny, well it was just the. Pause it was it
was a perfectly timed, pause like you're, LIKE i don't.

Speaker 12 (53:35):
Know oh, NO i can, Go, STERLING i can go
put her on the phone right now if.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You'd, Like, well we're short on, time if you if
you want to get her. Quick But i'm guessing that
she's with you. Stuff you, know what's her, Name? Stanley?

Speaker 7 (53:51):
Wanda?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Wanda, okay, yeah here she, Is, Wanda.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Wanda you, KNOW i think she want a bed all?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Right, oh she don't want to talk to, Me. Wanda
track you don't talk to?

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Me?

Speaker 11 (54:09):
One?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Wanda how are? You i'm doing all? Right stanley, says
you've been married for like thirty years or. So he
feels really good about. It and then he paused uncomfortably
WHEN i asked it and, SAID i assume she feels
pretty good about staying with you all this time. Too
are you happy after all this?

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Time?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
YES i, am thank. You that's, tremendous, fantastic take, care good.
Caving that's a good. Thing i'm GLAD i need a
woman to take care of me. Too take care of,
Yourself Wanda, stanley thank you for the. Call im against
the wall time you're ten thirty reports straight. Away see
they've gotten together and made it work for a long long.
Time wanda's, like why are you trying to get me

(54:49):
to talk To sterling the dog in the. BACKGROUND i
can only wait to hear the conversation that they have
while we get a taste of news here with your
ten third report coming up on seven hundred w welw
ass like in high school or whatever it, was AND
i was trying to rattle my head because you, know
reading is fundamental. Riff if you're of a certain, age
you know what that. Is it's like hooked on, phonics but.

(55:11):
Different in a situation like, THAT i started, thinking, well,
okay we'll roll me And juliet and he goes. Howl
do you think they? Were they were like what fifteen years?
Old is that? Right fifteen sixteen somewhere in that. Window
that's crazy, young? Right and in today's, world what would
you tell you're fifteen or sixteen year old who talked to?
You forget about like families that aren't supposed to be
together and get you know whatever else crossing lines that,

(55:33):
way what have. You but what do you tell you're
fifteen or sixteen year old who says you don't understand
HOW i. FEEL i am in. Love you don't even.
Know i'm gonna be with her forever and. Always she
makes me, Happy we're gonna have kids. Together and you're,
like you're, fifteen you don't even. Know you're a freshman

(55:56):
in high, school maybe maybe maybe a sophomore in high. School,
well you don't know what you don't know. Yet that's
what a lot of parents had. Say they, say give
me your, phone get off your social. Media you're never
seeing him or her. Again you don't know what you're talking.
About so what do you tell lawmakers In columbus who
are considering not sure how they're going to approach. It

(56:19):
it's seventeen in the state Of, ohio AND i hope
this information is accurate from The unchained At last website
talking about forced, marriage child, marriage because a lot of
times it's. Adults they use religion as a cover to
say that you can't tell us we can't get. Married
i'm not even gonna mention multiple wives scenarios or whatever.

(56:40):
Else seventeen is the youngest by law on marriage without
consent or whatever. Else. Right an excess of five thousand
of these kids have been married since two thousand to
twenty twenty, four and they say ninety percent of children
married in that window of time where girls wed to adult.
Men i'm gonna say that, again because that is the

(57:02):
sixth son of a bitch who wants to get married
to a, child a, woman, kid, girl adult. Men maybe
different if it's sixteen year old or a seventeen year
old and they're twenty or twenty, one but it says adult. Men.
Whatever that. Is age of the youngest child married In
ohio in the last from twenty twenty to twenty four

(57:23):
was ten years. Old. Ten i'm gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Again.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Ten that's what fifth GRADE i was lucky TO i
had Missus. BELL i think in fifth, grade Mister, myers
in fifth, GRADE i was barely able to find my
way home from, school distracted by shiny. Objects they say
seventy one of the marriages between twenty and twenty twenty

(57:50):
one right at the age of spousal age different that
it should have a constituted a sex. Crime the number
seventy one of those should have been sex, crimes but
they apparently or not in the way they were. Handled
So i'm just gonna ask you whether you have children or.
Not maybe you were married very, young maybe your parents

(58:10):
were married, young or what have. You Because i'm trying
to wrap my brain around. This how old is old
enough to get married if it's your kid, NOW i don't.
NECESSARILY i, mean you, know maybe it is a seventeen
year old and a fifteen year, old and maybe you
know somebody you know turns eighteen and then you got
to worry about statutory rape. ISSUE i know some people like.

(58:31):
That the families were not happy with the kids getting.
Together the boy WAS i think turned eighteen or, nineteen
the girl was fifteen the, sixteen and the parents of
the girl got really hacked off at the boy and
then went after him for statutory rape situation and ended

(58:52):
up causing him some serious problems legally, speaking because he
didn't do whatever they wanted or how it, was or
whatever else that goes with. It it just seems that
is different than, say a huge age. Disparity who are
these people getting married at this? Age i'd like to
know if it worked for. You that's, fine but when

(59:13):
there's an age, disparity if you're up a similar, age
it makes. Sense i'd like to hear from women on this.
Too five, three, seven eight, Hundred The Big. One so
who's been holding the? Longest Mount washington And? Chris then
we got A larry and others in room for you
on A saturday Night sterling on The Big? One, chris
how young is too? Young all?

Speaker 8 (59:35):
Right well you you lived with a tricky question. THERE
I i think that's that's up the, individual in my,
opinion no younger than. EIGHTEEN i have a very personal
story regarding my.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Aunt, okay and.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
You know we were, talking you were talking about back
in The, holler, right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Correct, Yeah BECAUSE i MEAN i have some relative friends
and family that you know back in the, day in
places that you, know you would call the holler fifteen,
sixteen that that was just what it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:12):
Was well back in cold, country where a lot of
my family is. From my aunt was never legally, charged
but she was, raped ended up, pregnant and my grandma.

Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
Made her marry the at age. Fourteen he was.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Eighteen, now my grandma liked to walk around with.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
This very highus.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
Attocude AND i love my. Grandma So i'm, however these
are all things THAT i cleared the air with her
before her, Passion So i'm not speaking over the dead
without having cross those bridges in the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Past if you, WILL i appreciate.

Speaker 11 (01:01:00):
That.

Speaker 8 (01:01:00):
Yeah, yeah her two, children she was, fourteen her older
daughter three years older than.

Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
Me we still keep in. Contact my.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
Aunt both of her children suffered an immense amount of
an immense amount of physical psychological abuse from this. PERSON i, mean,
obviously if you're going to rape, someone you're gonna rape.
Someone but they are all on medication to this day

(01:01:36):
because of forced, scenarios AND i think sometimes the younger
marriages are maybe the parents aren't forcing, it but the
child sees it as a way out of a bad.
Situation i'm not saying that's the way my aunt saw.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
IT i lost, However, WELL i can't imagine the. Circumstance
And i've heard that very thing, before and it's usually the, female.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
The, girl if you, Will, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Absolutely BUT i mean the way you described, that if
there's a handful of years and difference and it was,
consensual that's one, thing and you can sort of navigate
that and approach. It but where somebody forces themselves on
effectively a. CHILD i, mean that's a whole nother layer to.
THAT i don't even know how families continue on like,
that but a lot of people have those kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
STORIES i truly wish THAT i believe in, hell because
there would be a special place in hell for those.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
Individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Absolutely. YEAH i, MEAN i can't imagine if it was
my daughter AND i got wind of something like that.
Happening because you don't want to handle it. Yourself you
don't because you don't want to put yourself in.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Harms you handle it, yourself and the other person wins
because they're dad and you're in, jail.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Correct, right and then you victimized your child.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Exactly it's a really.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
Tough st a fine, LINE i.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Believe do you think seventeen is to a point if
it's consented by the individuals.

Speaker 10 (01:03:06):
The SHARON.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
I i was a touring musician most of my. LIFE
i do not believe that any male is truly capable
of making an adult decision before the age of. Thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Male i've heard, That i'll tell you. Though let me
say this, Though i've told that more, recently And i'm over,
fifty SO i understand.

Speaker 8 (01:03:37):
Yeah So i'm just saying the past couple of decades
of the first TIME i made adult.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Sir i'm finally getting. Smart it's taken me a while.
TOO i totally get.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
That, YEAH i know it feels, good doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
It, well we'll see what kind Of but.

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
My brain's working correct. NOW i believe seventeen is way Too.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
You, look if we can off the age for AND
i agree with, it for NICOTINE thc alcohol consumption to twenty,
one let's make it all across the, board including military,
drafts twenty one straight across the board.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
For, everything including.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
Voting now convert.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Excuse, me voting.

Speaker 8 (01:04:26):
Too oh, wow You i'm just fading myself into a
corner on that, one DIDN'T. I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Well you can. Do you don't have. TO i mean
that the law is varied, now so it's okay if there's,
variances BECAUSE i get.

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
That, yeah, wow, Okay, yes let's just make it eighteen
straight across the. Board, hey they can get drafted and
go and die to the country at.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
Eighteen, yeah they can make their own.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Choices, yeah and THAT'S.

Speaker 8 (01:04:53):
I think eighteen is a fine. Age had no idea
what MALE i was doing at eighteen Most, caroline how about, You.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
NO i have No i'm dumber than a rock just
telling you, now there's no question now a completely that's.

Speaker 8 (01:05:05):
Probably an insult to a rock BECAUSE i was even
dumber than.

Speaker 11 (01:05:08):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah well we've recovered. THOUGH i, mean your perspective and
insights bring a lot to the, table AND i appreciate
you contributing to the. Conversation, hey thanks a, lot.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
MAN i appreciate hanging out with you On.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Saturday thanks, well thanks for listening and being able to
share that. TOO i, mean that's a very personal thing
with your, family BUT i think a lot of us
a generation or two or maybe even more recently than,
that whether it's from something so dramatic as a child rape, SCENARIO.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
I see it in my. Workplace, yeah with younger folks
that are coming. In, yeah it's it's a little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Disturbing, YEAH i, say this Is. CHRIS i appreciate the
call me AND i got a, bounce BUT i appreciate.
That you, know it's. TOUGH i mean think Back elvis
got you, know ended up getting approval and traveling the
world right with a very Young priscilla If i'm not, mistaken,
right she was young sixteen years. Old, YEAH i MEAN

(01:06:05):
i think earlier than. That, yeah she might have. BEEN
i think there was some type of legal thing because
he had to travel with her all over the place
and they had to have an okay for. THAT i
mean you hear about. It what about the song sexty
and seventeen The Stray, CATS i mean you think about.
That now you're, like seventeen and my daughter rock and roll.
Start BUT i mean it was. Common it's a very
odd odd. Thing what's, acceptable what? Isn't and she was just,

(01:06:29):
seventeen that's. Right The, BEATLES i, mean how many of those? Songs,
well seventeen's not, fifteen that's for. Sure but still seventeen's pretty.
Inexperienced AND i mean think about. THAT i, mean you
get a little bit, older ten, years goes buying a.
Blink let's get to reading And larry quickly here on
seven HUNDRED wlw all, Right, larry how young is too?
Young do you think to SAY i do and get

(01:06:50):
married with or without the approval of mom and?

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
Dad well he was brought. Up WHAT i was falling.

Speaker 10 (01:06:56):
About, Absolutely Elvis presley had an ass formation because she
was only twelve.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Years old to date or.

Speaker 12 (01:07:03):
Twelve they actually married when she was thirteen years, old
did straight and quit lying what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Are you talking? ABOUT i misspeaking to, you enough of
you in your crap and missed stating. Stuff i've had
enough of. It Scary, larry you, know get your facts,
straight and doesn't call up here and give me. Grief
it's just a waste of. TIME i, mean, seriously it
doesn't benefit, You it doesn't benefit the conversation or anything

(01:07:30):
else along those. Lines but can you imagine being in
a situation she was What i'm, Sorry, russ fourteen and twenty,
Four now think about that for a. Minute that's a decade.
Different twenty four years old is still young and, dumb
but fourteen is a. Child she goes To, memphis, where

(01:07:54):
of course you know that you can still go in
with a supervision of parents in that. Situation so they went.
Along so you got to wonder what was in their,
head their mind in that circumstance to, say, okay well
it's It's, elvis And elvis Was elvis, already, Right but
still can you imagine, thinking, well, yeah, hear she's got

(01:08:15):
a future with this guy at, FOURTEEN i, mean a,
KID i don't even know how you'd hold a conversation
in your mid twenties with a fourteen year old if
it was your. Sibling think about how many times if
you have siblings And i'm an only, child BUT i
can tell you with friends and family cousins who've, had you,

(01:08:37):
know sisters and. Brothers you, know you'd have your fourteen
year old, kid sister or, brother and you're hanging out
with a seventeen or eighteen year old and the fourteen
year old wants to tag? Along do you want the
fourteen tagging along with you as you go running around
with your. Buddies we, didn't but Apparently elvis was okay
with the fourteen year old and the parents were, like,

(01:08:58):
yeah you, know why? Not how is? THAT i can't
even process. That that makes it very little sense to
me at. All And Jerry Lee, lewis of, course you,
know had all kinds of issues in dealing with the
relationship and the young woman or that he was with.
Too it's. TOUGH i, mean as a rock, star as

(01:09:21):
somebody who's on the, road there's a lot of, weird, uncomfortable,
creepy weird things that may be presented to your. Otherwise
and those were certainly different. Times but to put things in,
perspective this story from just this, week and here we
are on the sixth Of, june on A saturday, night
a couple minutes away from your eleven o'clock, report And

(01:09:41):
travis lairt updating you on the shooting and mass shooting
an issue In, toledo and everything else that's going. On
in just a, moment you think about the fact that
In columbus lawmakers trying to figure out how they can
bring to the floor to discuss and publicly debate the
issue of child marriage in The Great state Of ohio

(01:10:03):
in the twenty first. Century seventeen, okay consenting adults at that.
Point you can go to war at, seventeen but you
can't smoke, cigarettes you can't get your, thc you can't
drink till twenty. One the, firearm depending on your circumstance,
legally is different if you're hunting with mom and dad or,
whatever compared to, say going and buying a. Firearm, right

(01:10:24):
there are different. Layers we have a very weird sliding.
Scale you can, vote but you can't decide to get
high or. Drunk you can go to war and put
your life on the, line and you might even be
able to get, married depending we got to figure it,
OUT i, suppose or maybe just go with a lot
of gray. Area elvis twenty, four she was. Fourteen larry

(01:10:48):
as scary as he, is was, right but nobody was.
Lying but it's hard to process eleven o'clock reports straight.
Away another hour to go conversation about ripoffs with, utilities,
lawmakers and so much, more With Marty, schleier the guy
from The Ohio Capital, journal joining me after the eleven
o'clock report here on the home of The reds who
try to salvage one game In Saint louis as they

(01:11:10):
get at it tomorrow afternoon on seven HUNDRED, Wluw. Cincinnati
the weekend's, here sterling back seven HUNDRED. Wlw glad you're
making time to join. Us Marty, schlaydon a guy who
writes for The Ohio Capital, journal which you can see
virtually anywhere on a device in your hand AS i
am right, now your, wrist or on your, screen maybe
when you're wasting time at, work which is no one

(01:11:32):
would ever do. That you're speaking of wasting time at
work or. Otherwise, marty first of, all thanks for making time,
MAN i appreciate you doing, it especially on a. Weekend
i'm happy to be, Here. Sterling let's start with data center,
stuff because this has been all over the. News it's
a global, thing but it's certainly In. Ohio we're in

(01:11:52):
the top like three or four in the country state
wise with the developing data, centers and we are seeing
all of entanglements and fighting and issues of groundwater and
heat and tax abatement and everything else to go with.
It where do we stand? Now the governor put a more,
toorium at least for the time, being on, more but

(01:12:12):
there are already some in the, works SO i, mean
this is still a growing thing all very.

Speaker 11 (01:12:18):
Much so you, Know i've heard people make the argument
that putting a more torum on them now is like
closing the barn door after all the horses already got.

Speaker 7 (01:12:27):
OUT i, mean there's so much of that stuff already in.
Process what is The.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Let me cut through here and ask, this BECAUSE i
just had this conversation with a neighbor with all the
tax abatement and once you get through, construction And i'm
not making light of construction. JOBS i have friends and
family in that. INDUSTRY i probably would have been smarter
to take that, path. Frankly and there's a lot of
money to be, made a lot of jobs to be,

(01:12:53):
had and a lot of, people you, know making bank
putting these facilities. Up but once the construction ended, done
how many people are really going to be employed in
benefiting from these things being In ohio Or indiana Or
kentucky or anywhere else for that, Matter.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
Not many at.

Speaker 11 (01:13:10):
All one estimate for one Project Policy Matters ohio did last,
YEAR i think it was For Google Data center In.
Ohio if you look at the tax abatements we're giving
per permanent, Job we're giving them a million dollars per
permanent job.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
Created oh, Wow, yeah that really struck me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Too so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
We say that we want them. Here they have to be.
Somewhere we need it for the, future we need it
to be, competitive we need it for whatever is, next
which is probably our. Obsolescence what exactly do we get
out of them being here if it's a million dollars
in tax abatements aside from the initial construction, THAT i,

(01:13:55):
mean what is the benefit here rather than some other?

Speaker 11 (01:13:58):
Place that's the you, know this sixty billion dollar. QUESTION
i was speaking with a guy who's based here In.
Columbus he works for The institute For Local institute For
Local Self.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Reliance they're an anti monopoly.

Speaker 11 (01:14:15):
Organization and he said that that's what he studies, this
and he, said that's what's really causing all this opposition
is people don't see how it benefits.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
Them you, know there's these environmental harms that you.

Speaker 11 (01:14:26):
Mentioned there's talk that WANTS ai reaches, maturity it's going
to put all these people out of. Jobs so that's
what people are looking at it and, asking how does
this benefit?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Me so we're effectively helping to subsidize our FUTURE obso
lessons to a great, EXTENT i. Guess but we're all USING.
AI i mean the phone in my hand right now
that probably will give me an ad about something dealing
WITH ai or a conversation that we're having because it's always.
Listening i'm not a, conspiracist it's just. True But i'm

(01:14:59):
just trying to understand the limitation is this fights? Forward
are we seeing long term detrimental effects that are not
going to be corrected over? Time since we're talking about,
groundwater we're talking about rural areas in some cases with.
Farmland you, know everybody, Said, okay we don't want other

(01:15:22):
types of energy, creation be it windmills or, solar And
i'm let's hit everything we can to get as much
out of it as we. Can just like if you
have a retirement, fund you don't put all your money
in one. Basket i'm just trying to figure out, overall long,
term how this really benefits us in. GENERAL i, mean

(01:15:43):
that's a lot to put on your, Shoulders. Marty i'm
just trying to figure it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Out, Well, NO.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
I think that you're asking a very important, question and,
UNFORTUNATELY i don't think anyone knows the answer to this
at this, point including THE ai.

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
Companies it's because you.

Speaker 11 (01:16:01):
Know you're absolutely right THAT ai is, now you, know
a irremovable part of all of our day to day.
Lives ever Since google got powered BY, ai it is
so much more. Efficient you, know we still have to
WHEN i write, STORIES i still have to go to the,
source BUT ai Powered google gets to be there way,
faster you.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Know so that's.

Speaker 11 (01:16:22):
True but what my understanding is what's going on is
there's just this gold rush going on where everybody's competing
to build out as much data center space as they
possibly can Because they don't know exactly WHERE ai is
going to, go but everybody is betting it's going to go,
somewhere and that's why so much money is getting invested in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
It, well it would be nice if we could all
cash out from it over, time but it seems like
we're sort of putting ourselves out the pastor to a.
POINT i don't. KNOW i like the idea of it
being a tool and not a, takeover but if, it you,
know somehow affects your quality of life and your ability
to get drinking, water and your taxes and your utilities
are going to go, up and it just seems like

(01:17:06):
it's not. Good it really seems.

Speaker 11 (01:17:08):
Problematic, WELL i wish THAT i, could you, know be
confident that government was going to regulate this in the public,
interest BUT i don't know anybody who believes that at this,
point you, know with so much political money slashing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Around, well speaking of political money and slashing, Around Marty,
slayton by the, way writes for The Ohio Capital journal
With stirling seven hundred w welw From Data. Centers, now
let's talk about something THAT i thought had been put to,
rest which Is ohio lawmakers who had their palms greased
one way or another by utility companies that are now re.
INDICTED i thought that was a dead case where they

(01:17:43):
had sort of effectively walked away from it without too
much of a problem at least most people. Involved what
is this indictment situation BECAUSE i know you covered that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:51):
Too, yes, well there are, two you, know different legal.

Speaker 11 (01:17:56):
Tracks this is moving along These First energy was a
company that you, know we did guilty to spending more
than sixty million dollars in dark.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Money in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty to get The
ohio legislature to pass.

Speaker 11 (01:18:09):
A one point three billion with a b dollar bailout
you know finance why we rate. Payers so there was
a prosecution In cincinnati in federal court that sent the
former house, Speaker Larry, Householder Ohio House speaker to prison
for twenty. Years, right and then with The First, energy

(01:18:30):
executives were not indicted, then but they've since been indicted
in state and federal.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
Court those are two separate. Things and the.

Speaker 11 (01:18:37):
First trial earlier this year In akron ended in a hung.
Jury The Attorney General daveoe said they got ten jurors
to vote guilty on, bribery but they. Couldn't they didn't
get the other, two so now they're they reindicted them
the other day and that TRIAL.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
I think is supposed to.

Speaker 11 (01:18:55):
Start the retrial is supposed to start In, september and
the federal file is waiting whatever happens at state.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Court it's an amazing amount of money and it always
ends up on the rate payers backs one way or.
Another it's just bewildering that there was not initially more
oversight and effort to do something about that way before
it got to the point now where there's you, know
talking about retrial and then you, know finally getting around

(01:19:23):
to other people that were involved sort of behind all of.
This it's it's bewildering to. ME i, Mean i'm not
the smartest guy in the, world but it just seems
for people who are supposed to be working for us
now you have to constantly who's looking after?

Speaker 11 (01:19:36):
Them, Well, sterling it's even worse than. That one of
the people that The East First Energy it's First energy
executives are accused of bribing Is Sam, randazzo, right Who
mike The wine appointed to be the, regulator you, know
so and he helped write that corrupt bailout law and

(01:19:59):
the public all these commission To ohio during the federal
trial in twenty twenty, three tried to justify.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
That to, me what is the regulator doing writing a bail?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Outlaw, yeah that's that's a really interesting. Question and beyond
my pay. Grade, YEAH i don't, know how is that?
Rationalized what do they say when you asked? That because
when you talk to these people as you're digging Around
columbus in the State house and everything, else asking, questions
what do they tell you or do they run away
from me when you start asking probing.

Speaker 11 (01:20:27):
Questions, well so electeds do a lot more running away
than they.

Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
Should and that is not true of The dwine.

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
Administration they are responsive to the press and they always have,
been AND i you, know as a.

Speaker 7 (01:20:40):
REPORTER i think that's really, important of.

Speaker 11 (01:20:43):
Course but THE pnco they respond and what their response
in that instance, was, well it's our job to provide technical,
expertise you. Know and you, KNOW i wasn't terribly satisfied
with that, answer but you, KNOW i don't everything in
the world, Either. Sterling these are really complex things and

(01:21:04):
that's a lot of times that's where the real money gets.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Stolen that's. True you don't even realize it until it's already.
Happened it's, Tough, Mary way go. Ahead i'm.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
Sorry well it's something.

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
TOO i, mean these things people you can put people
to sleep if you, like describe the utility.

Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
Conspiracy but they're all pulling out.

Speaker 11 (01:21:23):
Now people are really getting mad about public. Corruption their
eyes aren't blazed over. Anymore it is an election issue
in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Six, well we're feeling it. EVERYWHERE i, mean there is
no question from the federal level all to the local
level and little bits of here and. There you just
hope it would be more of a universal effort to
wipe it out rather than being a partisan game like
so much else that's going on, here not to get,
politically you.

Speaker 11 (01:21:50):
Know and that's WHAT i find, too is if you
can talk about the issues and you, know strew the
partisan stuff, out everybody, agrees AND i mean, everybody that
utilities should be regulated in our.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
Interest they're i, mean they're.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Monopolies, yeah it's a difficult. THING i think most, people
regardless of political hacks off one wants to wear one
in this situation or just in, general most people want
the same. Things they want their kids to be able
to have a better. Life they want to be able,
to you, know pay their bills and have food on
their table and to relax and not be worried, about you,
know if they're going to be able to pay that

(01:22:25):
light bill that now is all of a, sudden twice
as much as it was it was with more efficient
bulbs than everything. Else we're still paying way. More it's.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
Ridiculous, yeah that's, right that's, right AND i think that
that's that's absolutely. Right AND i think that there are
some really, politically there are some bipartisan opportunities out, there you,
know because that's really what people are, angry and they're legitimately,
angry AND i think, that you, know they they their
concerns need to be a.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Draft, now we've covered a lot of ground and we're
short on, time AND i appreciate you making time on the.
Weekend by the, Way Ohio capital Journalist Marty sladen was
sterling on the big. One one more THING i want
to get to BECAUSE i find it's. Interesting at the federal,
level they've talked about. It the multiple states have rolled
back the gas. Tax, obviously we've seen a bit of
a drop in prices the last couple of days to a.

(01:23:11):
Week but if ongoing can issues in The straight Of
horn moves and With iran in THE us And israel And,
hesbala whatever else is going on with the straight in
The Persian, gulf our oil prices aren't going to get
any cheaper anytime, sooner and even though they have dropped,
recently And i've talked to experts about, this but the

(01:23:33):
idea of repealing the gas, TACKS i, mean it adds,
up especially if you've got, trucks you, know or a
big gas guzzling vehicle or whatever, else or you, know
you don't have a battery powered thing or. Whatever where
do we stand on repealing gas tacks In? Ohio as
other states have looked to do the, Same it's been.

Speaker 7 (01:23:51):
PROPOSED i think it's like a three month long.

Speaker 11 (01:23:54):
Proposal there are the, scroup this outfit Called scio To Animal.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
Analysis they have this.

Speaker 11 (01:24:01):
Regular paralle Of ohio economists about twenty or so that
they regularly survey on stuff and they ask them, about you,
know whether this this pause in the gas tax would
provide meaningful relief to, motorists and you, know pretty strong
majority of them said. No and also you, know you
got to make up that money somewhere, else because you,

(01:24:23):
know the gas tax goes to a lot of it
goes to like road, repairs you, know so that needs
to be done. Too so another thing too is a
lot of the industry analysts are, SAYING i Think exceon
And mobile even said reserves are now worldwide going down
to a point where the prices are you, know fixing

(01:24:45):
to go up pretty dramatically in the coming month or.

Speaker 6 (01:24:48):
So that's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Right, yeah it's going to get really, ugly really. Fast
and most of us don't want to pay any more
taxes that we have, to but we do get things
for these. Taxes and the problem, is of course that
the people on the, fringes the, edges where you, know
getting money to fill the gas, tank to get to
work or to get the kids to, daycare that that's
a do or die, situation or even just to have
money left over to maybe hop on a metro bus or.

(01:25:11):
Something and.

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
You, Know I'M i grew up In, CINCINNATI i grew
up In.

Speaker 11 (01:25:16):
Springdale let's SAY i lived In springdale AND i had
a job down in Northern.

Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
Kentucky you, KNOW i, mean.

Speaker 11 (01:25:23):
My house is where it, IS i got to get
there no matter what gas.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Costs that's. Right you don't have a. Choice you just
got to go get. It it's a tough. Situation we'll
see how it. Goes we got experts that we'll be
talking about on the issue of the horror moves and
how that blockade is going and everything. Else but at
this point they've said they're not going to roll back
The ohio TEX i just want to make SURE i
get that out.

Speaker 11 (01:25:46):
Right, well they're they're talking about a more you, know
a temporary pause like a thirty day or a three
month pause in summer, Basically and, yeah, yeah BUT i
do not believe that is THERE'S i don't think that
that is necessarily going to become.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Reality that's a tough thing because as soon as that
happens and stuff is not, repaired and construction jobs then,
suffer and improvements don't, happen and we're, driving you, know
doing the pothole slalom again. Momentarily you, know there's problems
with that. Too somebody's got to pay for those soft
patches and all those guys and those barrels and those
women out there doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
Work, well that's, right and you know that you believe
it or. Not engineers have studied.

Speaker 11 (01:26:27):
This you, know the further potholes are allowed to, advance
the more every time a truck hits, it they.

Speaker 7 (01:26:34):
Grow, exponentially which makes.

Speaker 11 (01:26:36):
Sense so big fat tires get farther down in that,
hovel they just make it bigger and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Bigger, yeah that's. True, Well, MARTY i hope that we
can do this. Again thank you for making, time especially
on the. Weekend how can people find out more about
you and what you do for The Ohio Capital.

Speaker 11 (01:26:50):
JOURNAL i just go to The Ohio Capital journal at.
Www Ohio Capital journal dot.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Com there you, Go Marty, Schlaton thank you. Man hopefully
that wasn't too.

Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
Painful, no, All, Sterling i'm happy to do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
It appreciate you making time More sterling coming back seven
HUNDRED wlw in. Time Travis laird's got your eleven thirty.
Report just a moment an update on the horrible but
news out Of. Toledo twelve people wounded there in a
mass shooting too critically and this is all they're out.
There we're huge festival going on In, toledo Will land To,

(01:27:22):
Tody paco and The Glass. City. Right HOPEFULLY i don't
think they mentioned any fatalities at this, point but the
people who were shot or in the age of between
fourteen and sixty one years of, age from children to
people you, know near senior, status if you, will which
is pretty disturbing. Certainly so you, know another, day another mass.

(01:27:45):
Shooting that's just we're very good at. That but we're not.
Alone we also have stabbings that has come. BACK i
thought it was only A uk, thing And i'm not
making light of. It it's a horrible. Circumstance by no
stretch of the. Imagination AM i downplaying. It but it seemed,
like you, know in THE, uk where they don't have
a lot of firearms because they don't have the right
to bear arms like you do AND i. Do here

(01:28:06):
in These United, states they were all about Like knifing's
a lot of people getting like poked and stabbed and,
stuff which who wants?

Speaker 9 (01:28:14):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Nobody and we obviously heard about that in the news
just recently in the last couple of days here in
the Tri state in a horrible case there with a
young mom in a domestic situation while she was on her.
Job and that's something that you hear more and more.
Of but The gun's still at, play the latest on
what happened In, toledo and conversation on the other SIDE

(01:28:34):
i had With Kevin, carr our friend From, Substack Silver,
gecko and my partner in The chubby And stick podcast
coming up as. Well some More reds talk all before
we're done at. Midnight but first it's the. News travis
knows what's. Up he shares, it disseminating mass quantities of
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of The Reds News, radio seven HUNDRED, Wlw Cincinnati. THEATER
i don't think it's in the streamings you. Had The
masters of The universe have made an appearance after years
and years. Away we've been waiting eagerly and sober getto On.
Substack my Buddy Kevin carr back With sterling on seven HUNDRED.
Wlw how are You is This masters of The universe

(01:29:15):
everything you would hoped it would be or were you
just indifferent to its existence in?

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
General, well WHEN i was.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
A, KID i, MEAN i grew up with. IT i
don't THINK i have. TO i don't even THINK i
actually had the toys because it's based on a toy
line For. Mattel, yeah BUT i remember watching the show
and that was a big deal back in the in
the early to mid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
EIGHTIES i mean that it was a huge, cartoon wasn't.
It it was an annoying. Cartoon now you like the?

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Cartoon, yeah, YEAH i enjoyed. It, Yeah and SO i
watched it was long after school every day And i'd
come home AND i watch.

Speaker 8 (01:29:45):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Yeah and even though they've done you, know they did
a movie With dolph lungering back in like nineteen eighty,
seven and then they did they. Didn't they rebooted the
cartoon a couple of times recently a couple of years
ago On, netflix but it was a cartoon and, they you,
know kind of scrap it up a little. Bit but you,
know now we've got the next live action version.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Of, it and go.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Ahead i'm, sorry, WELL i have to, say just the
cutting to the chase on this this kind of made
me feel like that that charge of when you're a kid.
Again you, know he really just kind of enjoying the
spectacle for the. Adventure you're not trying to think of
it as an. Adult you, know it's a kids. Movie,
ultimately it's telling the basic story Where, adam who's this

(01:30:32):
character From attorney ends up on Planet earth and then
he's got to get his magic sword and get back
and Defeat. Skeletor and it really feels like the cartoon
in the sense that it's got fiber special, effects but
it's like not so photorealistically done that it's not trying
to do a really heavy, story and it does kind
of look like A Saturday morning, cartoon but they're not

(01:30:54):
trying to bum you, out like The house Of Dragons
fantasy shows or something like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
That talking To kevin Carr is Silver geckle and substact
back To New masters at A universe. Movie, NOW i
was not a fan of the. Cartoon seemed like all
these KIDS i knew growing up were into, it and
for whatever, reason it annoyed. Me, however seeing an extended
trailer for, THIS i found myself laughing and feeling drawn

(01:31:20):
to go see this in a, theater WHICH i don't
know what that says about, me but it just looked
fun and not too, hokey AND i think that's what
the cartoon was the problem for.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Me, well, WELL i mean there's a little bit of hokiness,
there and you got like the goofy lines and they
don't shy away from. That you, know sometimes they try
to scrub that out and make a more serious, tone
BECAUSE i, mean you are going after the original viewers
of this as, adults but really it's for. Kids and
WHEN i went and saw there were a lot of
kids in the, theater and it's big and loud and

(01:31:52):
vibrant and colorful and lots of explosions and chases and.
Effects i'm my dad would have hated every minute of.
IT i had a lot of fun. WATCHING i was, surprised,
HONESTLY i was, like kind OF i don't want to see.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
THIS i.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
WAS i kind of was engaged because you do have
to approach it as a, child and if there's anybody
who can act like a, child it is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Me, WELL i can either confirm or deny it's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
True.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Yeah It sterling With Kevin, Carr Silver, gecko Substag masters
In universe the. MOVIE i was kind of blown away in.
Surprise Alison breeze in, this who of course was in Mad,
men in the wrestling Show glow or, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
The community as.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Well, YEAH i forgot about, That Kristin wiggs in, It
Jared Letodris, elba who was not The new Double low seven,
apparently and says he doesn't, care but everybody for the
longest was trying to get that guy to Be James.
Bond now he's involved in going After skeletor explain how
all these people get into?

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
This are these?

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
People do you think that grew up with it and
we're into it or is it just a, hey we
got a money check for you if you want a.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Job, WELL i think there's a lot of paychecks involved
and that's actually going to do. It but you, Know
interselva plays the man at arms and he he does
a good jobs as you know that that's older but
at times. Failed, uh the person who basically ran the.
Army but of Course skelatre has taken, over so he's
a little down on. Himself look You Alison brie choose

(01:33:13):
the scenery through. This she's in on the. Joke He
it reminds me of when they did That Power rangers
movie he has several years back And Elizabeth banks played
the bad girl or the bad guy or whoever the Main.
RITA i don't think it Was, rita but whatever. Was
she knew the assignment And Alison brie knows the. Assignment
Jared letto was the one that blew my mind BECAUSE
i forgot WHEN i went to go see, IT i

(01:33:34):
forgot that he had been cast As. Skeletor and obviously they.
Do they do a little bit of work on his.
Face well you can't tell that It's Jared, letto but,
man he nails the. Profile he does a really funny
evil but tongue in cheek and it kind of taps
into the, uh let's just call it the the the

(01:33:54):
online subtext that that has emerged over the last several.
DECADES U skeletor he really leans into, that and it's
it's a. HOOT i was surprised THAT i Liked jared
leto performance in the modern.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Day, well how fun must it be to be able
not just to play maybe a, villain but to do
it so over the top cartoon like in a film like.
THIS i, mean you want to talk about making like
money but doing it and having?

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Fun, YEAH i mean it does feel like that. NOW
i don't. KNOW i, mean you don't give Out oscars
for the most fun people had on set or Cannon
ball run to or cab would have won The oscar those.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Years but they were great for what they were, no
well maybe NOT DC a little.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
BIT U Dc cab because it was a terrible. Movie
mister t was A it had a cocaine. Budget it
literally had a line out of a cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
BUDGET i don't know nothing about, that did.

Speaker 7 (01:34:48):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Really those were different. Tides the industry is not like that, anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
Right, maybe maybe not for cocaine, things probably other.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Stuff, wow that's. Amazing so this is the first real
big popcorn movie of the, year kind of, right although
you Know Mandalorian grogu thing was kind of that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Way, yeah well, YEAH i mean they were both kind
of fun popcorn. Movies there are ones you don't really
need to carry stuff to or. From it's something you
can just go and enjoy for, THAT i. Mean and
as much AS i love, horror you got big success
With obsession and Back. Rooms those are going to be,
heavy you, Know and you're not gonna take your. Kids
you could better not be taking your kids to See,

(01:35:33):
obsession because.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
That would be.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Wrong you're gonna raise some weird, ass weird.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Adults, yeah there'll be some. Problems let me ask you
about that very. Issue Back rooms And obsession are very,
small low budget movies that found a different path to
theaters and being shown and looking at these, NUMBERS i
was going to ask you, that by the, Way Kevin,
Carr Silver gecko On, substack talking To Master's universe and

(01:35:59):
other movies off With sterling on The Big. One AS
i looked at, this were the numbers accurate THAT i?
Saw that seemed like these movies are building momentum in,
theaters which is not usually what we've been seeing with
a lot of movies for quite a while that we've
been talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Them, well, yeah part of it is sort of like
a now. Factor that's that's one of the Things obsession
in particular's. Building it's grown three weeks in a, row
and outside Of christmas releases where it's a very crowded
frame and you, know weird things happened in the box Office.
Christmas you got to go back to like the The
et The extraterrestrial was the last Non christmas theatrical release

(01:36:39):
that grew the way That obsession. Has maybe not to
the same. NUMBERS i, mean it's not going to make
five hundred, million, right but it's, grown and part of
it is it's found an. Audience there was this little
horror movie that went out there and then people found
out that it was, good whereas the back rooms or
back rooms that the director brings his stuff from his YouTube.

(01:37:00):
Channel and that's the thing between the two of those
guys is their, YouTubers which is great because it shows
that there's places that you can find content that isn't
a comic book or a book or A tv show
or some nostalgic. Thing it's also terrifying because Now hollywood

(01:37:20):
is gonna be mining YouTube channels and it's just we're
gonna Get we are in in for a string of
really terrible YouTube video inspired horror.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Movies everything has a. CYCLE i, guess race. Yourself, yeah
THAT'S i guess the bad part of. It but they'll,
learn like everything, else if they make crap and people
don't pay to see, it eventually they'll stop right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Now you saw that with The Harry potter. Movie and
then they mind all the young adult, books and you
saw that With, twilight and they mind the same Thing Hunger,
games and this is the next, thing so they're gonna
mine all that. STUFF i would also throw Market plier
in as a YouTuber who had a huge success this
year With Iron. Lung he kind of he didn't Four,
wallet but it was an independent release WHERE i don't

(01:38:04):
think he went through a. STUDIO i think he just
went THROUGH amc theaters the way Like Taylor swift did.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Well and for those who don't, know four walling or
whatever is where you basically make a deal to rent
the theater and put the movie out. Yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Correct, yeah you basically rent the theater in charge of
mission and keep it. All, yeah that's what four walling,
is and that. Works that was back in the, day
like in the, Sixties Roger corman would do that where
he just rent theaters and he didn't deal with the
studio because no one would touch his. Stuff but he
could he do it himself and he made a lot
of money doing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
That, yeah there are worse ways to make a, living,
certainly and not to get creeped out and think Like tinfoil,
had like conspiracy theories and. Technology but just as we were,
talking AS i have my hand in my phone or
on my, phone a pop up advert for back rooms
came up while we were. SPEAKING i kid you, NOT
i swear to The lord, above as my mom would, Say,

(01:38:55):
well you know that means, seriously.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
The tech listens to us when it listens to us
or just hears us is a different.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Story my dog listen or hears but doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Listen, yeah well, yeah one, day one day you'll come
home and the dog will look at you and be,
LIKE i was listening to on the radio AND i
said you were wrong on this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
POINT i will call you first if and when that.
Happens it's got a. MONOCLE i wish he could, TALK
i really, Do although shutting him up would be, difficult
but you, know what are you going to do?

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
It shutting you and me up is tough, Too it really.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Is check out The chubby And stick podcast for. That
we'll get more of that sooner than. Later besides The Master's,
universe which sounds LIKE i want to go. See we
know about, backgrounds we know about this other. Stuff what
else is? Coming because we are right in front of
fourth Of july in like a summer full of you know,
stuff what's coming that we should be aware?

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
Of, well just just for, note the new scary movie scary.
MOVIE i don't know what it. Is it's scary movie.
Something The wayne's brothers are back involved in. It that's
doing quite well this. Weekend so if you want a
comedy that's out. There i've not seen, it but you, know,
hey it's a comedy of these. Movies you know what they,
are but you know tell About you got Like Disclosure

(01:40:06):
day next, week that's the that's The spielberg alien. Thing
and you've Got Toy story five coming, up, well, yeah, Five,
Yeah Toy story five coming. Up those are the ones
that are on my Immediate supergirls coming, up that's another.
One you got The. Odyssey july is gonna be nuts
because you've got The, odyssey The Cursorer Ma nolan, movie

(01:40:29):
and you've got the New Spider man, Movie Brand New,
day which tends to be These Spider man movies have
Not they've been. Growing So i'd be curious to see
how well this is because we're testing the sort of
Post avengers model of our people still having an appetite
for this type of type of, spectacle or they're kind of, like,

(01:40:50):
Well i've seen it all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Before have we seen it all?

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
Before, well we've.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Always seen everything. Before BUT i think that's part of
the reason why everybody's there's there's a big chunk of
the audience gravitating towards stuff like obsession and back rooms
because they're, different and you don't have fifty different versions
of them On Lake Disney.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Plus so, well this ends up being a cycle of, Change.
Kevin that is sort of the way it was with
what was the so called found video thing that came
out right Around, yeah found footage. Stuff with the Blair,
witch it was all in. That like early late, nineties
early two, thousands there was a stretch where the Blair
witch was hugely. Successful they started doing that a, lot

(01:41:29):
and then it went.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Away, well Blair witch was kind of its its own
little impact, point and then in two thousand and eight
you Had cloverfield's, right that kick started the found footage.
Stuff and again there are a bunch of movies that
were made that were found footage that should not have
been found, footage AND i got very tired of found.

(01:41:51):
Footage oh, yeah you Had cloverfield and Then Paranormal activity
was a one two punch for.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
That that's.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Right but, yeah you get trends all the, time and
a lots of a lot of times that happens in.
Horror you had slash your trend in the, eighties love.
That you had the torture trend in the mid two,
thousands starting With saw And hostile and then you've got
a bunch of those. Movies you, know you Had asian
horror coming up in the two thousand after The rain And.

(01:42:19):
Grudge so horror is very, trendy and right now this
is where the, horror this is where the trends, are
which which is. Great i'm all for new. STUFF i
just do not want to see more repetitive. STUFF i
don't want to see another version of The session seven.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Times let's hope that's not what ends up. Happening by the,
way you can Find Kevin carr in his creations and
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anything else before we let you go to enjoy the
rest of this beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Weekend, NO i think that's about. IT i think we
got all the movies that are out there to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
SEE i think we. Did thank you for making. Time
always good to have you on the. Show It's Kevin,
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