May 16, 2026 • 17 mins
Sterling talks with Dr. Amit Govil about the UC Health organ Donation Program. Then Sterling's friend Brian and caller Taylor share their stories about their own organ replacements
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Dan, the try stay summer around the corner, starting
to get a little more humid. The rain came early,
the heats in front of us reds on the road
in Cleveland to take on the Guardian Saturday Sterling, seven
hundred WLW. If you're like me, you have friends, you
have family, You care about them, you want to help
them if something bad happens. And from time to time,
(00:20):
our pieces and parts internally don't always do what we
hope them to do, which is function and keep us
living well as long as possible. Sometimes they break down.
And in the University of Cincinnati you see health we
have one of the most prolific programs of living donor
transportation basically in her transportation and transportation in the country effectively.
(00:43):
And doctor am Gobel, welcome to seven hundred WLW. You
are a docor physician and actually apparently one of my
buddy Brian's doctors, which I was unaware of when we
booked you. How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm doing good, Thank you, Thank you for having me
over here.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So absolutely how big is the need for living donors
and donors in general, because I am bewildered in the
last five to ten years people around me, people I know,
young and old, as well as seemingly a lot more
dialysis businesses have popped up from facilities all over the
(01:18):
Dry State, the Miami Valley, as I understand it, around
the country. So there's some major problems with kidneys apparently.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Absolutely again, kidney is a kidney disease is a very
silent disease, and that's one of the challenges we face.
That our body is a wonderful piece of machinery and
it works in sync for all our life, but then
there are things that can go wrong and we don't
get to know of it till it becomes too late.
(01:46):
So when we look at the kidney disease, almost one
in nine people are at risk for kidney disease, So
that's a big number for some sort of kidney disease.
That does not mean kidney failure, but it just means
that they may have some some area of kidney disease
which may manifest on the blood test or pretty much
(02:07):
is asymptomatic. When it comes to end stage kidney disease,
almost three quarter of a million of people are on
end stage kidney dialysis and almost one hundred thousand people
are waiting on the kidney transplant list, and out of
that only around twenty five to twenty seven thousand people
(02:27):
get a kidney transplant every year. So, as you can see,
there is a whole pipeline of how things get narrowed down,
and out of those lucky twenty seven twenty eight thousand
people every year, only six to seven thousand people are
able to get it through a living donor, and the
rest are just waiting for a deceased organ which may
(02:47):
or may not come. So for almost three fourth of
the patients who are on the list, they never get
to see a kidney come to them every year, and
the clock is ticking against them, so it's a race
against time, all waiting for a gift of life. So
a living kidney donation is a gift of life that
we all look forward to, and obviously that's the greatest
(03:07):
gift that one can give or get.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Absolutely. Doctor Amagovo is the University of Cincinnati UC Health
organ Donation Program chief. If I'm not mistaken or one
of those in control of placing and changing out, I
guess the pieces and parts that fail. The living program
is an interesting thing. My buddy Brian, when he was
dealing with his trauma with his kidney and I found
(03:32):
out something timing wasn't good for me to do it,
and he ended up having a donor that gave the
gift of life upon their passing, which I've agreed to
do of course with my driver's license. But for a
lot of people, it is an opportunity to be able
to help a friend, a family member, or someone even
you don't know. But it's a challenging thing. It's a
lot to work through. What do you tell someone who's
(03:54):
in a situation where someone they know, or maybe even
someone they don't, maybe in need and they're considering maybe
seeing in fact they can test to be qualified to
be able to even make that type of offer, to
give someone an opportunity to stay here longer and live better.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So one of the things when I talk to someone
who may be willing to consider being a donor, I
always reassure them that just because they show an interest
does not mean that they will end up being a donor.
So they have to be reassured that yes, only when
they have been screened and they are medically perfect to
(04:32):
give up a kidney, only then they'll become a donor.
So a donor in general is otherwise a healthy individual. Again,
there are few medical conditions that may not even impact
donating a kidney, and this is where their whole medical
evaluation comes into play. But the kidney donation is a
(04:52):
very safe surgery. The very first kidney donation and the
world happened in nineteen fifty four, and that individual lived
another fifty five five years and died pretty much of
old age. And they have come a long way from
nineteen fifty four to twenty twenty six where we are.
So kidney donation surgery is very safe. The kidney donors
generally recover very fast because they're otherwise healthy individuals.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They have good and better.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Long term outcomes, partly because they are well taken care
of and they take care of themselves, and they pretty
much have when compared to general population that actually their
survival is better and their quality of life in general
is better because of who they are, and they're good
samaritans who take care of themselves and they're sort of
(05:41):
a role model, if I may say, for all of
us out there, of the society in general. So a
living kidney donor, in my opinion, is on the top
of the society that we live in in terms of
being a role model and an altruistic person.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Doctor Roma Goebels, you see health or organ donation program.
Doc talking to Sterling seven hundred WLW. My buddy Brian,
who will talk to in a few moments, and some
others who maybe have already been through this. Another family
friend some years ago ended up with a liver transplant.
You see. I don't think that's one of those things
you can give up a liver, you know, and just
(06:22):
keep going. But there are amazing things that you guys
do there, whether it's liver, eye, skin, I mean, you
name it. It's not just kidneys that you plug in and
take out as needed and so forth. To how does
the liver thing work? Because somebody told me, and I
don't know about this. I'm not a doctor. I don't
want to play one on the radio. Even a segment
(06:43):
of a liver is one of those things that can
somehow be utilized in this type of process. In part
is that correct? Or am I being milingtly? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Absolutely? Again, this is the beauty of signs that has
progressed to the point where we can now take a
segment of the liver and and transplanted, and the donor
who gives up the liver does absolutely fine. Again, it
is I don't want to downplay the surgery itself. So absolutely,
they have to be screened, We have to make sure
(07:13):
that they are otherwise healthy individuals, and they recover very well.
And the person who gets that liver is able to
do well with that amount of liver. And the beauty
of liver is compared to the kidney is that it
regenerates much faster compared to compared to the kidney. So definitely,
although we just have one liver, but we can definitely
(07:35):
spare a part of the liver to help someone live.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Uh, Doctor Gobel, I'm kind of curious of how many
because I want to make sure I process this correctly.
And I've heard it, and then I read it, and
then it was seeming astounding to me that almost daily
you are transplanting organs at the University of Cincinnati. There
are other programs around the country, but that seems incredibly
(08:00):
a high number of individuals living through this and thriving subsequently.
Is that accurate? About one a day, give or take.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
One a day, would be accurate if you put kidney
and liver transplants together. Yes, one transplant a day at
the University of Cincinnati is what's happening. Which may be
a living donor, which may be a deceased donor coming
from the list. But yes, combined together both the organs,
we do at least one a day on an affect.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's an amazing thing and how far it's come since
the fifties and when this whole thing sort of started.
What do you tell someone right now who maybe doesn't
have someone they personally know who may be in need
of transplantation but is interested in maybe wanting to offer
you the gift of life effectively while they're still here.
Do they reach out to do you see health dot
(08:51):
com and try to find that way? There is a
living program. I know, there's a form sort of like
a screener that you can fill out and talk to people.
Is that how the best way to go about it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely so, there are many ways. Again, these are what
we as I was referring to good Samaritans and who
are always there and for a recipient who's looking out
for someone, I always say that there are good people
around who may be willing to donate. So all you
have to do is just make your efforts to find someone.
And for people who want to donate, the best thing
(09:24):
that they can do is is get in touch with
you see Health Kidney Transmit program. So the best way
would be just again, I can give a phone number
which is five one three five eight four seven zero
zero one, or just reach out to the U S
Health website and there is it leads to the transpland
site and or if not, then you see Health main
(09:46):
number and just ask them to connect to the transpent
program and one can leave a message and someone from
our team will will reach out to them and guide
them through the process. And this is again want to
reassure that, yes, the whole medicals is done ahead of time.
And when I use some analogies, I always say that
i may want to become an astronaut today, but I'm
(10:08):
not an astronaut till I'm actually screened and cleared and
ready to go. So same thing for a donor. And
again it's a gift of life and it's totally under
their process, which is that they can withdraw it any time.
So that's a reassurance I always give that just because
they said yes at the beginning does not mean that
(10:29):
they have to have to give up. It's an altruistic
process and we totally respect their confidence in that process.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, we really appreciate what you do. It is a miracle,
it really is. I'm looking at my buddy Brian across
the console with me and whether he'd be here or
have a different quality of life than he has now.
And I know that unknowingly we found out that you
were one of his doctors. Doctor go, but we'll talk
to him a little bit. Thank you for doing what
you do, and hopefully we'll raise some awareness and get
some people maybe involved, whether it's as a living donor
(10:59):
or us on the way out to be able to
bring the gift to anybody else who's in need. Thank
you for doing what you do now.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thank you so much. And last thing I would say
is that the living donation, not only compared to diseased donor,
is a gift of life, but it also increases the
duration of life for an individual because the life of
a living donor kidney is almost double that of that
one that comes from the list. So it's a big
gift of life. So just want to be thankful to
(11:27):
everyone who's even considering it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There you go, doctor Ahma Govil you see health organ
Donation program. Doc with Sterling on the Big One. Thank
you for your time and doing what you do. I
hope you have a great afternoon, and we'll talk to
some people who've been through this on the other side.
Take care of yourself. Sure, thank you, thank you appreciated.
We got Taylor, my buddy Brian, some others coming up.
Your chance to be heard if you have done this,
if you've been a recipient, maybe you've given five point
(11:51):
three seven four nine seven eight hundred the Big One
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk to Taylor, bry
others as well. Having car Silver Geck go on subtax
substack talking movies later, Mark Sheldon all before the Reds
and the Guardians get outed here on a Saturday. Sterling
seven hundred wlwling hanging out, my buddy Brian and Taylor
(12:12):
on the line. In a moment. Just talked to doctor
Amagovil from UCE Health about living organ transplantation and how
critical that need is. Not just on the way out
upon our passing as an organ donor on your driver's license.
Let me talk to my buddy Brian and then we'll
get Taylor on and I guess so maybe we can
conference both. Taylor, how are you you? Okay? Good? Welcome
(12:32):
to the Big One. So Taylor, you're here with my
buddy Brian who's on Mike fourth, and you worked with
him in some fashion in the midst of this process
as far as him getting a kidney which he's rolling
with three instead of two, which at the time when
we figured this out, I was surprised. I thought they
yanked the bad one out. They just kept it in
like a series of batteries. What do you do and
(12:54):
explain a little bit about the program? Get about two
minutes or so, is all.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I am a transplant wellness coach, so I help other
fellow recipients who are dealing with mental and emotional challenges
post transplant that nobody really talks about. And my unique
experience of being a nurse and a liver recipient, I
truly understand what people are going through and I'm able
to talk about things that the doctors themselves don't understand
(13:22):
because they haven't been through it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So you had a transplanted liver, which is sort of
like one of my family friends, Teresa Head. So did
they give you peace in Park? Or how did that work?
And here's the thing I've always wanted to ask, and
I don't think i've ever asked my buddy, Brian, do
you go, hey, would you like to see my scar?
Because I think that'd be a great story to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So I received a portion of my cousin's liver, so
I believe it was about seventy percent of her liver
they gave to me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Cool, So that thirty percent still allows her to be
able to have it grow and rejuvenate and then also
gives you a gift of life too, which is amazing.
That's tremendous. Yes, So, Brian, what was that about?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I was just going to say that the livers regenerate
within six to eight weeks after transplant, So both her
and I deliver were ninety five percent of the normal
size liver eight weeks after a transplant.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
What amazing thing the body and science and God above
whatever it is that it sort of puts us here
and keeps us going. I think that's spectacular. You didn't
answer the scar thing, do you like? Do you tell
do you have friends or whatever? You want to see
my scar? Because I would totally be like, because women
love scars. They love them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Actually, I've never really asked that, though some people have
asked me, and I will show them, but.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Not so much when you started to say, Brian, the
kidney scar is a little bit smaller than you would
get with the liver, and believe it or not, mine
is pretty much. It's really hard to see at this point,
is it really? So you're not asking Your wife said, hey,
did check out my scar? No scratch you a little
bit of that. What's it like going with three?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I have to ask that because that was one of
the things that shocked me when we were talking about
you getting your stuff done and someone was kind enough
to give everything to you effectively with your life, and
it was scary for all of us. But then then
I found out you got like a series of kidneys
working in there like batteries. Yep, yep, just extra work
to take to take the bad ones out, and they
just splice it in right beside the right beside the
(15:15):
old one.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So I do indeed have three kidneys.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's a crazy thing. And another friend of ours had
a bad one. They didn't replace it with a new
one that was donated, and he's rolling with just one,
which is certainly possible too, which is where the living
donor program comes comes in. Brian, any anything that we
did not ask talking to doctor govil or with Taylor
at this point only got about a minute or so.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Uh really, I just I just want to say how
much Taylor and I both appreciate our our donors.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Obviously Taylor's donor was her cousin and my donor was
just a man or woman on the street that said
yes in the license bureau. And I'm sitting here today's
occurred to them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm pretty amazed by it, and uh feel fortunate and
grateful about it too. Okay, I can see you about
I got break down when you cry, do it?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
No, just kidding, it's it's you just can't imagine that
the gratefulness that you have, well you're getting up in
the morning, so.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean your quality of life and the fact
that you do have life, which is I mean, that's
what we're all grateful for, Taylor, same for you with
with your cousin too. It's in a pretty amazing thing.
How can people reach out to you to maybe find
out more about this process if they're thinking about maybe giving, uh,
you know, as a living donor. Uh, some piece are
part of themselves. Taylor.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I am on Instagram and Facebook, and my Instagram
and Facebook handle is Buyer Integrative Wellness. It'll be why
r e R Integrative Wellness. And that's where I talk
about my entire transplant story and just talk about the
mental and emotional side and just try to help other recipients.
That's fantastic right now, that's where you can find me.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Great.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm sorry to have more time. We'll have to do
this again, but I wanted to get the doc on
in different perspectives from all viewpoints to recipients and other
and donating into somebody doc who's putting them in and
taking them out, which is pretty amazing too. Taylor, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Absolutely, we'll talk to you soon. Brian, thank you, Yeah,
thanks for having me. I'm glad you're here, and I'm
thankful that somebody did as I did, which is at
least on the way out being able to give what
you can give too, which is tremendous. And again it's
at UCHealth dot com. You can find out more about
the UC Health organ Donation Program. Four o'clock Reports straightaway,
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(17:29):
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Well, Dan, the try stay summer around the corner, starting
to get a little more humid. The rain came early,
the heats in front of us reds on the road
in Cleveland to take on the Guardian Saturday Sterling, seven
hundred WLW. If you're like me, you have friends, you
have family, You care about them, you want to help
them if something bad happens. And from time to time,
(00:20):
our pieces and parts internally don't always do what we
hope them to do, which is function and keep us
living well as long as possible. Sometimes they break down.
And in the University of Cincinnati you see health we
have one of the most prolific programs of living donor
transportation basically in her transportation and transportation in the country effectively.
(00:43):
And doctor am Gobel, welcome to seven hundred WLW. You
are a docor physician and actually apparently one of my
buddy Brian's doctors, which I was unaware of when we
booked you. How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm doing good, Thank you, Thank you for having me
over here.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So absolutely how big is the need for living donors
and donors in general, because I am bewildered in the
last five to ten years people around me, people I know,
young and old, as well as seemingly a lot more
dialysis businesses have popped up from facilities all over the
(01:18):
Dry State, the Miami Valley, as I understand it, around
the country. So there's some major problems with kidneys apparently.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Absolutely again, kidney is a kidney disease is a very
silent disease, and that's one of the challenges we face.
That our body is a wonderful piece of machinery and
it works in sync for all our life, but then
there are things that can go wrong and we don't
get to know of it till it becomes too late.
(01:46):
So when we look at the kidney disease, almost one
in nine people are at risk for kidney disease, So
that's a big number for some sort of kidney disease.
That does not mean kidney failure, but it just means
that they may have some some area of kidney disease
which may manifest on the blood test or pretty much
(02:07):
is asymptomatic. When it comes to end stage kidney disease,
almost three quarter of a million of people are on
end stage kidney dialysis and almost one hundred thousand people
are waiting on the kidney transplant list, and out of
that only around twenty five to twenty seven thousand people
(02:27):
get a kidney transplant every year. So, as you can see,
there is a whole pipeline of how things get narrowed down,
and out of those lucky twenty seven twenty eight thousand
people every year, only six to seven thousand people are
able to get it through a living donor, and the
rest are just waiting for a deceased organ which may
(02:47):
or may not come. So for almost three fourth of
the patients who are on the list, they never get
to see a kidney come to them every year, and
the clock is ticking against them, so it's a race
against time, all waiting for a gift of life. So
a living kidney donation is a gift of life that
we all look forward to, and obviously that's the greatest
(03:07):
gift that one can give or get.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Absolutely. Doctor Amagovo is the University of Cincinnati UC Health
organ Donation Program chief. If I'm not mistaken or one
of those in control of placing and changing out, I
guess the pieces and parts that fail. The living program
is an interesting thing. My buddy Brian, when he was
dealing with his trauma with his kidney and I found
(03:32):
out something timing wasn't good for me to do it,
and he ended up having a donor that gave the
gift of life upon their passing, which I've agreed to
do of course with my driver's license. But for a
lot of people, it is an opportunity to be able
to help a friend, a family member, or someone even
you don't know. But it's a challenging thing. It's a
lot to work through. What do you tell someone who's
(03:54):
in a situation where someone they know, or maybe even
someone they don't, maybe in need and they're considering maybe
seeing in fact they can test to be qualified to
be able to even make that type of offer, to
give someone an opportunity to stay here longer and live better.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So one of the things when I talk to someone
who may be willing to consider being a donor, I
always reassure them that just because they show an interest
does not mean that they will end up being a donor.
So they have to be reassured that yes, only when
they have been screened and they are medically perfect to
(04:32):
give up a kidney, only then they'll become a donor.
So a donor in general is otherwise a healthy individual. Again,
there are few medical conditions that may not even impact
donating a kidney, and this is where their whole medical
evaluation comes into play. But the kidney donation is a
(04:52):
very safe surgery. The very first kidney donation and the
world happened in nineteen fifty four, and that individual lived
another fifty five five years and died pretty much of
old age. And they have come a long way from
nineteen fifty four to twenty twenty six where we are.
So kidney donation surgery is very safe. The kidney donors
generally recover very fast because they're otherwise healthy individuals.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They have good and better.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Long term outcomes, partly because they are well taken care
of and they take care of themselves, and they pretty
much have when compared to general population that actually their
survival is better and their quality of life in general
is better because of who they are, and they're good
samaritans who take care of themselves and they're sort of
(05:41):
a role model, if I may say, for all of
us out there, of the society in general. So a
living kidney donor, in my opinion, is on the top
of the society that we live in in terms of
being a role model and an altruistic person.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Doctor Roma Goebels, you see health or organ donation program.
Doc talking to Sterling seven hundred WLW. My buddy Brian,
who will talk to in a few moments, and some
others who maybe have already been through this. Another family
friend some years ago ended up with a liver transplant.
You see. I don't think that's one of those things
you can give up a liver, you know, and just
(06:22):
keep going. But there are amazing things that you guys
do there, whether it's liver, eye, skin, I mean, you
name it. It's not just kidneys that you plug in and
take out as needed and so forth. To how does
the liver thing work? Because somebody told me, and I
don't know about this. I'm not a doctor. I don't
want to play one on the radio. Even a segment
(06:43):
of a liver is one of those things that can
somehow be utilized in this type of process. In part
is that correct? Or am I being milingtly? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Absolutely? Again, this is the beauty of signs that has
progressed to the point where we can now take a
segment of the liver and and transplanted, and the donor
who gives up the liver does absolutely fine. Again, it
is I don't want to downplay the surgery itself. So absolutely,
they have to be screened, We have to make sure
(07:13):
that they are otherwise healthy individuals, and they recover very well.
And the person who gets that liver is able to
do well with that amount of liver. And the beauty
of liver is compared to the kidney is that it
regenerates much faster compared to compared to the kidney. So definitely,
although we just have one liver, but we can definitely
(07:35):
spare a part of the liver to help someone live.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Uh, Doctor Gobel, I'm kind of curious of how many
because I want to make sure I process this correctly.
And I've heard it, and then I read it, and
then it was seeming astounding to me that almost daily
you are transplanting organs at the University of Cincinnati. There
are other programs around the country, but that seems incredibly
(08:00):
a high number of individuals living through this and thriving subsequently.
Is that accurate? About one a day, give or take.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
One a day, would be accurate if you put kidney
and liver transplants together. Yes, one transplant a day at
the University of Cincinnati is what's happening. Which may be
a living donor, which may be a deceased donor coming
from the list. But yes, combined together both the organs,
we do at least one a day on an affect.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's an amazing thing and how far it's come since
the fifties and when this whole thing sort of started.
What do you tell someone right now who maybe doesn't
have someone they personally know who may be in need
of transplantation but is interested in maybe wanting to offer
you the gift of life effectively while they're still here.
Do they reach out to do you see health dot
(08:51):
com and try to find that way? There is a
living program. I know, there's a form sort of like
a screener that you can fill out and talk to people.
Is that how the best way to go about it?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Absolutely so, there are many ways. Again, these are what
we as I was referring to good Samaritans and who
are always there and for a recipient who's looking out
for someone, I always say that there are good people
around who may be willing to donate. So all you
have to do is just make your efforts to find someone.
And for people who want to donate, the best thing
(09:24):
that they can do is is get in touch with
you see Health Kidney Transmit program. So the best way
would be just again, I can give a phone number
which is five one three five eight four seven zero
zero one, or just reach out to the U S
Health website and there is it leads to the transpland
site and or if not, then you see Health main
(09:46):
number and just ask them to connect to the transpent
program and one can leave a message and someone from
our team will will reach out to them and guide
them through the process. And this is again want to
reassure that, yes, the whole medicals is done ahead of time.
And when I use some analogies, I always say that
i may want to become an astronaut today, but I'm
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not an astronaut till I'm actually screened and cleared and
ready to go. So same thing for a donor. And
again it's a gift of life and it's totally under
their process, which is that they can withdraw it any time.
So that's a reassurance I always give that just because
they said yes at the beginning does not mean that
(10:29):
they have to have to give up. It's an altruistic
process and we totally respect their confidence in that process.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, we really appreciate what you do. It is a miracle,
it really is. I'm looking at my buddy Brian across
the console with me and whether he'd be here or
have a different quality of life than he has now.
And I know that unknowingly we found out that you
were one of his doctors. Doctor go, but we'll talk
to him a little bit. Thank you for doing what
you do, and hopefully we'll raise some awareness and get
some people maybe involved, whether it's as a living donor
(10:59):
or us on the way out to be able to
bring the gift to anybody else who's in need. Thank
you for doing what you do now.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thank you so much. And last thing I would say
is that the living donation, not only compared to diseased donor,
is a gift of life, but it also increases the
duration of life for an individual because the life of
a living donor kidney is almost double that of that
one that comes from the list. So it's a big
gift of life. So just want to be thankful to
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everyone who's even considering it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There you go, doctor Ahma Govil you see health organ
Donation program. Doc with Sterling on the Big One. Thank
you for your time and doing what you do. I
hope you have a great afternoon, and we'll talk to
some people who've been through this on the other side.
Take care of yourself. Sure, thank you, thank you appreciated.
We got Taylor, my buddy Brian, some others coming up.
Your chance to be heard if you have done this,
if you've been a recipient, maybe you've given five point
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three seven four nine seven eight hundred the Big One
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk to Taylor, bry
others as well. Having car Silver Geck go on subtax
substack talking movies later, Mark Sheldon all before the Reds
and the Guardians get outed here on a Saturday. Sterling
seven hundred wlwling hanging out, my buddy Brian and Taylor
(12:12):
on the line. In a moment. Just talked to doctor
Amagovil from UCE Health about living organ transplantation and how
critical that need is. Not just on the way out
upon our passing as an organ donor on your driver's license.
Let me talk to my buddy Brian and then we'll
get Taylor on and I guess so maybe we can
conference both. Taylor, how are you you? Okay? Good? Welcome
(12:32):
to the Big One. So Taylor, you're here with my
buddy Brian who's on Mike fourth, and you worked with
him in some fashion in the midst of this process
as far as him getting a kidney which he's rolling
with three instead of two, which at the time when
we figured this out, I was surprised. I thought they
yanked the bad one out. They just kept it in
like a series of batteries. What do you do and
(12:54):
explain a little bit about the program? Get about two
minutes or so, is all.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I am a transplant wellness coach, so I help other
fellow recipients who are dealing with mental and emotional challenges
post transplant that nobody really talks about. And my unique
experience of being a nurse and a liver recipient, I
truly understand what people are going through and I'm able
to talk about things that the doctors themselves don't understand
(13:22):
because they haven't been through it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So you had a transplanted liver, which is sort of
like one of my family friends, Teresa Head. So did
they give you peace in Park? Or how did that work?
And here's the thing I've always wanted to ask, and
I don't think i've ever asked my buddy, Brian, do
you go, hey, would you like to see my scar?
Because I think that'd be a great story to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
So I received a portion of my cousin's liver, so
I believe it was about seventy percent of her liver
they gave to me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Cool, So that thirty percent still allows her to be
able to have it grow and rejuvenate and then also
gives you a gift of life too, which is amazing.
That's tremendous. Yes, So, Brian, what was that about?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I was just going to say that the livers regenerate
within six to eight weeks after transplant, So both her
and I deliver were ninety five percent of the normal
size liver eight weeks after a transplant.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
What amazing thing the body and science and God above
whatever it is that it sort of puts us here
and keeps us going. I think that's spectacular. You didn't
answer the scar thing, do you like? Do you tell
do you have friends or whatever? You want to see
my scar? Because I would totally be like, because women
love scars. They love them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Actually, I've never really asked that, though some people have
asked me, and I will show them, but.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Not so much when you started to say, Brian, the
kidney scar is a little bit smaller than you would
get with the liver, and believe it or not, mine
is pretty much. It's really hard to see at this point,
is it really? So you're not asking Your wife said, hey,
did check out my scar? No scratch you a little
bit of that. What's it like going with three?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I have to ask that because that was one of
the things that shocked me when we were talking about
you getting your stuff done and someone was kind enough
to give everything to you effectively with your life, and
it was scary for all of us. But then then
I found out you got like a series of kidneys
working in there like batteries. Yep, yep, just extra work
to take to take the bad ones out, and they
just splice it in right beside the right beside the
(15:15):
old one.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So I do indeed have three kidneys.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's a crazy thing. And another friend of ours had
a bad one. They didn't replace it with a new
one that was donated, and he's rolling with just one,
which is certainly possible too, which is where the living
donor program comes comes in. Brian, any anything that we
did not ask talking to doctor govil or with Taylor
at this point only got about a minute or so.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Uh really, I just I just want to say how
much Taylor and I both appreciate our our donors.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Obviously Taylor's donor was her cousin and my donor was
just a man or woman on the street that said
yes in the license bureau. And I'm sitting here today's
occurred to them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm pretty amazed by it, and uh feel fortunate and
grateful about it too. Okay, I can see you about
I got break down when you cry, do it?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
No, just kidding, it's it's you just can't imagine that
the gratefulness that you have, well you're getting up in
the morning, so.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean your quality of life and the fact
that you do have life, which is I mean, that's
what we're all grateful for, Taylor, same for you with
with your cousin too. It's in a pretty amazing thing.
How can people reach out to you to maybe find
out more about this process if they're thinking about maybe giving, uh,
you know, as a living donor. Uh, some piece are
part of themselves. Taylor.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, I am on Instagram and Facebook, and my Instagram
and Facebook handle is Buyer Integrative Wellness. It'll be why
r e R Integrative Wellness. And that's where I talk
about my entire transplant story and just talk about the
mental and emotional side and just try to help other recipients.
That's fantastic right now, that's where you can find me.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Great.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'm sorry to have more time. We'll have to do
this again, but I wanted to get the doc on
in different perspectives from all viewpoints to recipients and other
and donating into somebody doc who's putting them in and
taking them out, which is pretty amazing too. Taylor, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Absolutely, we'll talk to you soon. Brian, thank you, Yeah,
thanks for having me. I'm glad you're here, and I'm
thankful that somebody did as I did, which is at
least on the way out being able to give what
you can give too, which is tremendous. And again it's
at UCHealth dot com. You can find out more about
the UC Health organ Donation Program. Four o'clock Reports straightaway,
the latest on everything going on around planet Earth, and
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